When I was watching the monitor screen, it reminded me of this time my friend tried to watch a comparison of a 1080p tv compared to a 4K tv, on his 720p iPhone
The problem is Teraflops isn’t a perfect measurement. It’s used every time a new console comes out to showcase how ‘powerful’ they are. However every time it’s actually tested, this isn’t the case. Clock speed of the GPU, the type and amount of VRAM and actual architecture of the GPU matter way more in real life application than “teraflops”. Just wanted to put this here because as a PC TH-camr I believe you should have said something about how teraflops aren’t a measurement used for the purpose the Sony’s marketing is using it for. Thanks for listening to my ted talk
Also Steam is not giving me free games every month. So I think they try to balance it there a little bit. But you are right. Epic and GOG free games and (time to time Steam freebies) still worth more.
I don't remember Steam having access to all of Sony/Nintendo's exclusive titles either. The answer is PC for multiplat and PS5 and Switch for those exclusives.
The question is wether you want to do that. I personally buy consoles specifically because I want a system that is just for gaming and nothing else (ok except maybe for Netflix). My favorite gaming device right now is Nintendo Switch. It's plug and play and super convenient. I do work on my Laptop, don't need a PC rig for that
@@teehundeart You can just put your OS on a M.2 SSD, and it'll load programs faster than the PS4 can load games. There's frontends like Launchbox and GOG Galaxy that can be used to load games from different launchers and emulators in one location. Not to mention that a custom built PC offers better remote play capabilities than either PS4 or Xbox since console manufacturers tend to cheap out on network cards. With all that in mind, a PC can be made to be more convenient than a console. With a frontend and a fast SSD, I can go from loading Dark Souls 3 to MegaMan Battle Network to Virtual On to DMC 5 to God Hand which is a process that would require me to constantly swap out my consoles. In my opinion, eliminating the process of swapping out consoles just to play different games is the ultimate form of convenience. With that said, I'm not hating on your gaming preferences, brother. I like gaming on the Switch, and No More Heroes 3 is my most anticipated game of the year. Astral Chain, BOTW, and Fire Emblem 3 Houses are among my favorite games this gen.
Even though it’s $555 instead of $500, I don’t see a ps5 editing videos and checking discord or streaming with obs etc etc. even though a gaming pc is “meant” for gaming, it’s still a computer, so it can do a hell of a lot other things that the ps5 can’t lol
"for specs that powerful , you would normally find that in a 800$ dollar computer" me: mike wazoski with sullys face because i recently built a 700$ pc
Built a pc for $500 dollars with a ryzen 5 3600, gtx 1660, 16gbs ram, 500w power supply, a320 motherboard, cooler master case, 500gb ssd, 1terabyte hhd
The specs are too good to be cheap though, and there's a lot you cant do with a PS5 that you can do with a PC so I still don't see it as a real competitor especially cause you can never upgrade it.
Consoles are back to being the better bang for your buck for gaming but when you have a pc you have more then just a gaming device which should come into consideration when talking prices and $
Andrew Marsh PC components are only expensive if you’re a smoothbrain that buys them on Amazon for full MSRP during the high season, true men of culture like myself know how to get brand new PC components for less than a used console (and more powerful than the console). If you get used components from the right source, you might as well be playing games for free.
Also don't have to pay 50 bucks a year to play online. It screws you over long term and I would have to go out and buy a 4K display which I don't want to do...
Games do matter but if those games are on a PC, Xbox or PS then you will get a way better experience that what you can on a Switch. If you prefer a Switch then more power to you.
@King Graveth Why would a pc user make fun of a nintendo switch user? If your going to buy a switch you know damn well that its not going to give you 240 frames. Rather like you said they buy it for the portability and the games where you can't get anywhere else.
I used to be a console pleb and I’m tempted to buy a Ps5 but I think PC will still be better as it’s a multifunctional workstation and not just a *play* station
the only reason anyone would buy a console is if all they do is gaming, its pc master race for a reason, because even lower end pcs can do more shit then a brand new console.
Ralston Metz lol pc gaming still is better more options like any input of your liking modding small dev games that aren’t on console lol console only does gaming and still does it worse omegalul
You gotta keep in mind that more teraflops doesn't completely translate to better gaming performance - a gtx 1070 outputs about 6.5 teraflops, yet has very similar performance to a 1660ti
@@ryanhealey1300 it is tho, the Series X is throwing 100+ fps in gears 5 at 4k 'beyond' ultra, MS also stated that it was an early port and no optimization was made
Not last generation. If I’m correct, both Xbox One and PS4 earned 18 dollars per unit on release. As years go on, production costs get cheaper, so they eventually earn a considerable sum
@@Basidus258 each unit can earn, but that cannot include RnD costs. It's the ongoing game sales and yearly console revenue that is required to justify that investment
Let's just remember 2 things though, the fact that you don't have to pay $80 yearly to play, and that the PC can also be used for studying and schoolwork for students. And just about everything else for everyone else
Honestly being able to run windows at full speed is what sells pcs for me. I would keep a 1650 and an i3 just so I can run windows and have all my emulators and steam games.
its supposed to match performance not "be the ps5". Anyways the parts aren't as good as you think they are. everyone always hypes up the consoles so much when they end up being garbage lol
I think the main reason they are mad is because people own these kind of computers that cost way more than a PS5 but then when it was announced to be $400 everyone got mad not because they don't like consoles but because they would rather have a computer but they can't afford it.
@@sauceontheside2804 nah its straight up impossible, And its not fair to compare a brand new ps5, to some used parts that are 2 years old. Also its not just the system, remember that you get a very advanced controller finally exceeding the switch controller, which up to now had been the most advanced controller in the world. Also, you get an HDMI cable so for what it's worth I think its good to mention it. Im going to love pc channels trying to scramble their words to make it seem they built a pc as powerful as the ps5, for the same price. Keep in mind they are not allowed to use a gpu without rt cores, because the ps5 does support ray tracing. Once a youtube shows me a build that performs better than the ps5 and with the controller, I shall say they are better value. And it cant be one of those stupid videos showing a game running at low settings and getting higher fps than console, because I just saw one trying to say they had just built a pc for 250 and it was more powerful than the series x because it could do fortnite 1080p low settings and get 165fps, then when I commented to try epic settings at 4k and see what fps he would get there, his response was that no one plays that way : D. Ok I have written a fucking book what is wrong with me
Vendetta thank you somebody finally agree with me there is no way that you could build a pc for the same price and get the same results in this time (especially because the prices for things went up due to coronavirus) (except ram that is dirt cheap) I will make the statement that I would rather want a computer than a PS5 but for someone who is literally 14 years old that is kind of an issue
I'm impressed with the price to performance of this build. But it's very far from matching a PS5. 1) The PS5 digital edition is the correct comparison to a PC without bluray drive and that's launched for $399 MSRP 2) 240GB bottom of the barrel SATA SSD vs. Sony's 800GB super-fast SSD? Beyond laughable. 2.5) Depending on which game you want to play, you'll only fit a single game like COD: Modern Warfare (2019) with its 175GB install size on the SSD. Have fun. 3) That R5 1600 isn't close to cutting it, the most equivalent CPU is a R7 3700X 4) TFLOPS is a terrible way of measuring GPU power because it does NOT translate into FPS. 5) Both GPUs only do 6GB VRAM, that's not going to be enough to match PS5 on textures and shadow quality 5.5) Only the RTX 2060 actually supports ray tracing to put it on feature parity with the PS5 in that regard, putting you way over budget 6) Nor is 8GB RAM going to be good enough for some games and measly 2666 MHz will actually cost you a fair bit of performance 7) A $40 case is miserable to build in 8) The video outright says to get a PSU secondhand from a friend. DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON YOUR PSU!
@@Steamrick thanks..saved me the trouble of writing all of that myself. i mean the guy basically weaseled his way out of the comparison with that ''TFlops'' bullshit. That PC he built is around 150 dollars more expensive than a PS5 and is nowhere near as good in terms of Case, PSU, RAM, CPU, SSD. GPU is the only thing that's close to PS5 performance. I mean PS5 plays DMC5 on 4K 60 FPS with RT mode On. Hits 4K(Dynamic) 120 but RT off. good luck to that PC matching that. copied most of your comment to make my own comment. again thanks for your effort.
what super fast ssd. a 7200 rpm 50 dollar hdd loads rdr2 faster than ps5. "fast ssd". I am a student. I have to do school work. My father built me this pc which I game on spare time. I don't have money to buy games. Pirate until I earn money. That ray tracing is software ray tracing. Nvidia rtx gpus have dedicated cores for ray tracing. Compared to the shit looking ray tracing .
@@alex360c then what should I do ? oh ohh rdr2 doesn't have patches. I was not aware of a patch in my pc. In raw performance ps5 ssd is shit. If even hdd is more faster than ps5 which ps fanboys claims to has the faster ssd than those ssd manufacturers whose division is solely make ssds, then I dunno what I will say.
@@eric8666 This PC build is not at all comparable to the PS5. Not only is it's CPU architecture nearly two generations behind and has two cores less, the PS5's GPU has 30% more Compute Units than the RX 5700 XT which is itself much more powerful than the GPU in this PC.
@@malathomas6141 A notable difference is the the RX 5000 series is based on RDNA 1 graphics architecture, while the PS5 and XSX are based on the RDNA 2 architecture - which is claimed to have 50% more power than equivalent RDNA 1 SKUs.
Hmmm, I would buy it cause it's a good deal but I don't want to be spending a lot of money right now. I'll give you a like so more people see it to help you out, good luck
@@AJSquirrel53 hey,do you know any better motherboard at that price?the pc didn't even win every part at the competition with ps5.if u really didn't like a320m motherboard then just wait a few month till u get a few dollar until it's enough to buy cheapest b450 motherboard
@@frex2853 Yeah that's a totally valid option, and that's the beautiful thing about PC's - that you can upgrade. It's just that if you're sticking to $500 total in the end, you might not want to spend money on something you're not planning on keeping
@@b.henriques9871 -Can't come up with a good reply or comeback -Just uses "Console peasent". By the way, you spelled peasant wrong, it's "peasAnt" not "peasEnt". A, not E.
Have fun trying to build something like this in Canada, we might as well be a third-world country when it comes to availability and price of PC parts. This is a big reason why I enter like a million giveaways for PC parts, everything is so expensive so winning just about *anything* would be a great start towards building a new PC.
Yeah facts bro us Canadians are struggling i just upgraded from a i3 6100 and 150 to a i7 6700k and 2060 super and just those two parts alone were over 1000$
A few things: 1. the 1600 for $105 is the AF model so its basically a slightly lower clocked 2600. It is a 2000 series cpu even though it has a 1000 series name and is the smaller nm architecture. 2. I'd recommend grabbing the ASRock B450M Pro4 for $80. Much better mobo and can overclock. Plus its a 400 series board instead of the 300 series board. So that is an extra $25 to spend on it instead of the better GPU. As someone who has had two 300 series boards, they are not that good and have stability issues. 3. From #2, you can grab another set of sticks bringing the ram to 16GB. So that's another $30 there. Possibly less since youd be buying a pack of four rather than two packs of two.
I agree with your first two points, but I wouldn't buy two kits of 2x4gb for 16gb. I understand there's a small increase in price, but if you want 16gb then get a 2x8gb kit with better timings, say 3000mhz cl15, and it'll run at its xmp more reliably than having 4 sticks. That way you have room for an upgrade to 32gb in the future.
We can't forget about the fact that you have an actual computer, so you can use it for video editing, using apps, and a million other things you can't do on a console. Simply having a desktop computer is the reason this machine is so much more of a better deal.
That’s why I want a pc instead of the ps5 lol I’m sick of not being able to do anything other than play a couple of good games. All the fun stuff to do is on an actual computer
ilovepatryk 21 Yep because I can use high quality editing software, play stupid browser games for fun when I’m bored, play PC exclusives on steam, and have multiple tabs open while I’m on a phone. Forgot lol
i love how you werent shitting on the ps5 or consoles in general the whole video like others usually do, good video man. pc is def better for a lot of things but consoles have their upsides
500 dollars for a really good ps5 me: damn, now if only I didn't have to buy online ps5 to play online which eventually adds up... Edit: it seems I've started some kind of pc console war in the comment section... if you guys want my take since I have a pc owned a ps2 Xbox 360 and on weekends I go to my cousins which have 2 ps4. Nintendo switch with like 15+ games (60$ each lul Nintendo), Xbox one with the game pass. My take is console has definitely become more viable of an option but is really hard for me to choose as a pc player who doesn't like yearly or monthly stuff which add up (would take a big chunk of my money which id rather save up for the next thing id buy whether that be pc or something. and don't have parents who'd by a switch game on a whim +3 Nintendo consoles that my cousin's tiny brother destroyed) id rather just collect free games from epic games (which overall have been better than ps4, xbox one, Nintendo switch "free games" still pretty gud *sometimes*) and save up money for masterpieces which I can buy for dirt cheap and complete such as dungeon which I got for 5$ on sale and sometimes I hear bundles are good but don't tend to be on the lookout. Also checked today that the game pass is on both console and pc and without a dought one of the best deals for short term to me (maybe create multiple accounts to keep getting that 1$ deal on games which progress isn't a priority) overall when it comes to discord, youtube, email. gaming etc. is a lot more convenient as you can have things running and playing on the background and foreground seamlessly. I want to add more of what I think are the pros and cons of each console, pc whatever but on a finished note, il say me and my brother are saving up around 1000$+ in which well buy a new pc and do a build where i will document what is the best price/quality u can get for the money we have at the time for our purposes... *If your read trough this far thank u =)*
500 for the console, plus 300 for 5 years of ps plus (60$ a year, for five years which will probably be the time until a new one gets announced)= 800$, in addition to 120 free games. Sounds like a good deal to me.
"There has never been a moment in history when buying a console was better than building your own pc" uhhh I love pc gaming but there's many times in history when consoles made more sense. i know not a lot of people care about retro stuff now but this was absolutely not the case early on in games. When gaming was still primarily 2D, PCs simply didn't have the graphics horsepower to do fast, smooth scrolling because of specialized hardware on NES and other consoles of that era. When Sonic was zooming at 60fps, platformers were basically impossible on PC. Commander Keen was a huge step forward. It wasn't til 3d games came that pcs started to make more sense, with doom being the real showcase. It wasn't til recently that the libraries of consoles and PCs were similar. If you're a JRPG fan like I am, a PS2 back in the day made a ton more sense because uh jrpgs didn't come to pc. When consoles typically come out, they're usually better buys than PC because console makers subsidize the hardware with accessories and games, while having high end hardware. the 360 back in the day was a great buy in regard to price to performance, with the 360's GPU being faster than the fastest Nvidia Card (7800 GTX) out at the time and cheaper for an example. PCs being a better buy than console is a relatively new phenomenon. This generation with Xbox One and PS4 is honestly a bit of an exception rather than the rule
*nods* The only time PC had consoles clearly beat is with the PS4/Xbox One. Both going with PC hardware (from AMD) made comparing it to PCs easy and the comparison didn't look good. They went with a plain bad laptop CPU and a mid-range graphics cards - and the price wasn't even that good, I think these were also the first consoles ever from Sony/MS that sold with a profit on every unit since day one. They both cheaped out and made very mediocre consoles. Other times it was either in a bit of a grey area where something could be said for either side or consoles were straight up simply better. And thankfully after that weird one off we're back to the consoles being up there with high end PCs. Give it a year or two and midrange PCs will likely offer similar performance and for the remaining 8 years after that whilst we're waiting for the PS6/XBox something PCs will have consoles beat again.
@@Axeiaa???? The GPU in the next gen consoles 8s equivalent to the 5700/5700xt, Wich is a mid- high end card .. the cpu is a downclocked Ryzen 3700, so more like a 1700/2700... Those specs you can get for around 800 full build. Still an amazing price/performance for the ps5 . But saying it is high end??? Not really
Let's get one thing straight, having owned the ps4 for 7 years with the £45 yearly subscription and the additional price I've payed for the games being more expensive compared to steam It's cost me £1100 over 7 years to enjoy my PS4 and that only plays game nothing else really so might as well spend a few hundred more and get a pc that'll be more useful for tasks and work
the games are cheaper on console if you buy them used and sell them back. also you dont have to wait for pc sales. the real advantage pc has with the games is you can pirate them for free.
@FamlyFrendlyUsername they believe 144 4k because that is the max potential. People are going to be spoon pissed when it is 30fps 4k and 60fps 1080p. Games are extremely hard to play at 4k 144 on 1500 systems, try that on a fucking minifridge
It's not hard to beat a PS5...IMO. I think its cool what the PS5 is going to do...But I know that even my pc is better than it. Hell I'd be willing to argue that my pc will be more powerful than the series X. (Feel free to call me a "PC Elitest") The thing is, with pc gaming, you can meet the performance or exceed that of a console.
"Can *insert new console here* kill PC gaming?" People have been "asking" this for the last 30 years or so and the simple answer is no. Even if the new generation of consoles somehow manage to be leaps and bounds ahead of the most expensive gaming PCs (which console makers and their fanboys claimed would happen with all of said previous consoles and yet they never were; it's almost like console manufacturers overhype their systems' capabilities before launch to drive sales), as long as there are people who want a versatile system that can do a massive number of different computing tasks and also play a huge library of games from the dawn of video gaming to present without having to buy another version of the same game you played years ago because it's no longer compatible with your new console, PC gaming is not going anywhere.
Thing is though. Until about 8-10 years ago. The PC library was abysmal. Only really offering up MMO's and a few other games that were actually worth playing. I remember the conversation being "With all of these game being ported over to PC. There won't be a reason to own a console." The only reason I like my ps4 is because of it's ability to unify my living room. One button and everything flips on. If I want to play a game cool. Movie, cool. TH-cam, cool. All in one proprietary setup. However the benefits of gaming on a PC extend far beyond anything that a console can do. With a little know how you can do anything with a PC. And that alone makes it worth it. My sons will have PC's over consoles for the sole reason that I want them to, at the least, learn how to do some front end and OOP(object oriented programming) A console can't offer things like that. Nor will they ever.
@@FlockofSmeagles the only genre that I would agree with you would-be platforming games because there was a good amount of MMO and FPS games in the early 2000s I actually treasure the early 2000s for PC gaming as it was before the DLC crap that happened in 2008 that made Developers think more greedy and saving the good stuff for the DLC training us to buy the DLC before it comes out to make more money
According to the developers from “Deliver Us the Moon”, who are producing a game for the next-gen consoles and PC, the consoles perform close to a 2070 Super, and considering the specs, I’m expecting the CPU to be close to a 3700x, so this build isn’t a console killer unfortunately, and I don’t think a 2070 Super with a 3700x is an 800$ computer, for that we’ll have to wait until 2023-2024 to get a true console killer for 400$ (probably the PS5 price will drop to this value by then) And by the way, the RTX 2060 isn’t capable of 12 teraflops of 32-bit, I genuinely laughed when you said that, because the PS5 has 10.28 teraflops of 32-bit, while the RTX 2060 has 6 teraflops of that same metric, and 12 teraflops of 16-bit (the PS5 has 20.56 tflops of 16-bit) No hate towards your video, but I just wanted to leave this here
They’ve already said what the cpu is, it’s not comparable to a 3700x. Preforms worse, not saying it’s bad but it’s not a 3700x. And damn by 2024 console players will have already paid like $200 just to use their own WiFi lmao. Consoles can make their price so good for the hardware because it’s not a one time purchase, they can milk more money for years to come
@@Yorozuya4ever extra peripherals which are 100% optional, just like those 100$ mechanical keyboards that 60% of PC gamers buy just because of the RGB and sound
One thing I want to point out is consoles are sold at a loss and they regain that money with digital licenses like ps plus or xl gold, and if I can recall correctly, game creators have to pay to put their games on that specific platform but I don't remember if that's true or not
@Bear Omega dont think you guys will have rgb fans with sick ninja dudes fighting on your motherboard that's what I thought console peasant we know you guys cant afford to buy pc parts to multitask with gaming, watching vids, editing, etc
I literally just got done watching your "his wife can't find his PC" video 😂😂 and now onto the next video!! Thanks for always making my days better Kris 🙂❤️
The deal with console is that there are people that don't want to open their stuff because they don't know how to build a PC they just want to play games
@@crazymonkey60123 Pre builds are trash and if you want to do it right, it takes a lot of time, research and effort. Thats why the console market exists
Something you missed is that the ps5 comes with a free controller. But the pc doesn’t come with a mouse and keyboard which is easily another 20-50$ on the absolute low end.
If you only game on a console, you won't be playing you're old games in your library and you have to pay for online and games are cheaper on pc. So when you buy ps plus for 5 years and the ps5, that's going to be 800 bucks. That's the price of a new pc, and you can do much more with a pc
800 USD upfront + Games is not the same as 800 USD across 5 years.. You can even sell your consoles and the games if your sick of it.. So technically Console are less heavy in the wallet.
Games I played in 2020 Residenevil 2 and 7 Skyrim Original ff 7 Styx Overwatch Assassin creed unity Overwatch Morrowind God of war three Dc universe online Old games.... Only new game I played was Jedi fallen order re 3 and free to play battle royal if that counts...also games aren’t cheaper on pc they just go on sale more often sometimes or sooner .... it depends. I know this because I’m a fiend for sales. This used to be true, it’s not anymore really. Example amnesia collection on console is 3 dollars this very moment and soul caliber delux edition was 20 buck last week, etc.
@@ItsNylrak yeah but they should do it how prebuilt pcs do it and put a fee on top of all the prices of the parts instead of fooling you into thinking it’s cheap
This is my POV, but I am and still have a lot to learn. So Sony is targeting 4k 120 FPS right? So they're expecting 1 everyone to have a 120Hz display, 2 they're doing this over HDMI? Doesn't HDMI 2.0 Limit to 4k 60Hz?
this statement makes no sense lmao its sony you dont think they got all them parts for dirt cheap from amd theres a thing called buying in bulk ....if they sold at a loss for making 60 dollars a year off your ps plus pass that still wouldnt make them a profit off their consols then
Reverse thinking: This is what I'm doing too. These are reasonable estimates: PS5 Controller: $60 PS5 NVME 850 GB: $170 PS5 4K Bluray: $100 (I just subtracted the one with optical minus the digital version.) A GPU that can handle games at 4k at good FPS: $350 A Motherboard: $150 A CPU and Fan capable of not bottlenecking the GPU: $250 A Case: $40 (Going really cheap here) A 4K HDMI cable (I think it's included...not sure): $15 Total is $1,135 so far and that is not counting on the fact the a lot of these components are custom small form factor parts to be crammed inside this case. We all know that those parts are pricier. Also, not counting on the fact the there has to be a tiny markup at least. Amazon and Best Buy have to make a little money, so a PS5 has to be less than $500 for those retailers. Also, keep in mind that many of us with PS4s will probably sell them for $150 or so because the PS5 can do backwards compatibility. So the customer will have some cash to offset much of the $500 cost. In summary, one heck of a bargain!!
@@SanLeMans this video is kinda bullshit coz the only specs you are looking at are fps, which are not the only things to look at. On PC we nearly all stucked at 1080 resolution while on next gen we ll reach the 4k. I'm not saying that the PS5/XBOX SX are better than a computer but in terms of hardware on the tim eit is cheaper, i got an xbox from 2013 and it works better on average than my 2019 laptop in every game. The major point for PCs is that we can do everything with it, play, work, watch things it has a way better accessibility. In terms the next gens are there for people who want quality and strengh in terms of hardware for huge games which will come out like cyberpunk 2077 and nearly everybody can afford a 500 console , the PCs are more turned for competitive games. The best we can do is buy both ;3
Kévin Pegny having a pc you pay for the premium of having long lasting high quality components which you can switch later on, you pay more to pay less, it’s an and investment, PC can easily go 4K 120+ FPS with not only better graphics but you pay being able to directly stream on it and multitask without it sounding like a vacuum cleaner. And honestly most people don’t have 4K monitors as tv’s let alone a 120hz one, 60hz at most. Plus when you pay for a pc it’ll look awesome and sexy with the Aesthetic of your likings, it’s customizable inside out, i mean custom watercooling tubes and cases cmon now.
Came back here to send this video to my friend that was thinking about upgrading his ps4 to a ps5. So I put on an argument about getting a PC instead. I decided to stay and rewatch the video to refresh my memory. Thank you for this video!
even so a point still stands, the vast majority of enthuses who are going to buy the new consoles at launch are going to get ps plus and xbox live. you need these things to play online (for xbox every game) and for playstation most. considering that the fee of 60 usd a year that equates to 420 over a 7 year span the minimum time between the next "gen" consoles (like the ps6) considering that if we now take a budget of 920 usd for building a pc (because it doesn't cost jack to play online on pc) than you can build a better system and also take all the benefits of a pc, like you can do work on it, more variety of games just not present on console and the ability to play console exclusive games, like ps4 spiderman, or even like breath of the wild on pc. to this playstation players will make the argument that you get access to games through ps plus, however hypothetically if someone didn't want to play any of those games but wanted to play online they would need the pass, however this is unlikely and the argument is still valid that playstation plus is a benefit, on the xbox side of things xbox game pass is not an argument cause you can get it on pc as well and that also semi counters ps plus also giving a netflix type game selection thing but you don't need this to play online in general. look i am trying to wank pc's i don't care what you do its your money, i am just trying to present an argument that no one is considering this with all the other benefits of pc i still think its a better deal to get over the ps5 and xbox series x (ps5 digital too good value you cant beat it price to performance no matter what you do). the 920 build would be (prices might be jacked up right now for some parts). Cpu, Ryzen 3 3100 $100, Motherboard, ASRock B550M Pro4 mATX $95, RAM, GeIL EVO SPEAR DDR4-3200 $55, Seta SSD, Inland Professional 120 Gb 500/470 MBps $18, Hardrive, 2 Tb Seagate Barracuda $55, Video card, RTX 3070 Founders Edition $499, PSU, SeaSonic S12III 650 W 80+ Bronze $65 and a case with good airflow with the remaining budget.
With this build, you could barely do 1440p 60fps with all settings low. The 2060 and 1660ti are great 1080p cards, and even then they struggle on some games at 1080 ultra. 11 months later, the PS5 and Series X are oceans better than this.
i love the ps4 might have slowed down a little over time but its amazing. i is was so happy that the ps5 was coming out but man add on the price of plus membership every year it stacks up computers are 100% worth
it's only 40$ a year. Games are also way cheaper on playstation. I have a ps4 pro and a 2070s and Ryzen 5 3600 pc and games are way cheaper on PS4 trust me
I am trying to build my first pc and chose this parts hope you see it CPU-Ryzen 5 5600x Motherboard-idk suggestion Graphics card-RTX 1660 Ram-16gb SSD-1TB HDD-2TB 500 80+ bronze power supply And don’t know any cases It’s a 900$ budget build
I recommend the asus prime x570 mb. For the case I would go for the nzxt h510 I. If you are worried about thermals, go with the fractal design define 7 compact or the corsair crystal 680 x rgb.
MOBO: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard Case: NZXT H510 Btw, you should wait for Nvidia to release their next line of budget gpus instead of getting a 1660 because it'll be more likely that the new gpus can run next gen games much better. These new gpus, based on the last gpu generation release, will probably come out in early 2021.
Would you build this computer? I wanna hear some real nerd opinions. I know parts of it are weak, but do you think it's still worth it?
I might try
For 500 bucks hell ya
Dude I built my 500 dollar pc and then Linus does one thats better than mine and then you make one better than mine and I feel like I wasted my money
Probably
Well, right now I am building a used parts console killer. I would build this too.
Everyone talking about how much fps there going to get with a PC while I'm chilling over here with my switch with 30 fps
Ur pfp is u rn lol
Lol
Don't beat yourself up my guy, the switch has some awesome games on it
ive been there :(
I know how it feels I used to play on mobile 30 FPS
i think this is the first time ive actually seen his recording room decently clean lol
Green screen
Mike L I mean at least his green screen is clean
Yh xd
Seriously lol. I’m not sure he realizes people much prefer to see a clean room.
For real though
When I was watching the monitor screen, it reminded me of this time my friend tried to watch a comparison of a 1080p tv compared to a 4K tv, on his 720p iPhone
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
That’s as smart as people who put rulers under their pillow to see how long they sleep
Same as people that watch 30 fps vs 60 fps and put quality on 480p
lmao
@Alexis Drohin the console gamers eye cant see 60fps haha
"The PS5 cost $500"
Scalpers: "How about no"
1200$
@@Austrium1483 499
expensive ps5 games that you have to buy: How about a big no
1000$ take it or leave it
400$ digital edition :) i get one 🥰🥰
The problem is Teraflops isn’t a perfect measurement. It’s used every time a new console comes out to showcase how ‘powerful’ they are. However every time it’s actually tested, this isn’t the case. Clock speed of the GPU, the type and amount of VRAM and actual architecture of the GPU matter way more in real life application than “teraflops”. Just wanted to put this here because as a PC TH-camr I believe you should have said something about how teraflops aren’t a measurement used for the purpose the Sony’s marketing is using it for. Thanks for listening to my ted talk
Here before 2 'smart people' have an argument about something
No one will cuz hes actually right
@@shalow9158 they always come out of their hypernation and crawl out of their deep hole to say somethinf stupid
oMg yEs iT dOEs tERaFlOPs mEaN eVeRYtHinG
2 other ppl commented before I finished reading that.
*Someone talking about the value of console gaming*
Me: I don't remember Steam charging me every year to play with my friends
Also Steam is not giving me free games every month. So I think they try to balance it there a little bit. But you are right. Epic and GOG free games and (time to time Steam freebies) still worth more.
@@Zed1987X free games that you pay for arent free games, in the console case thats called rent
@Kocos my rl squad and in game squad says otherwise
I don't remember Steam having access to all of Sony/Nintendo's exclusive titles either. The answer is PC for multiplat and PS5 and Switch for those exclusives.
@@eliselara6247 ill rent 30 games for $35 a year if it means I don't have to buy $60 games all the time
Wait until they release the pc 2
Never heard this joke before haha
@@petezaroll4421 🤡
dinerphrog 🤡 he’s never heard the joke but he still understood it. 🤡
How the hell will they make a pc 2
@@fwcam12 r/wooosh
When the ps5 is actually harder to get than all these parts combined
L M A O
Well gpus are hard to get now too
@@nestiii6860 and for a reasonable price
I saw a r3 3100 for $200+
@@9999.... lol
didnt know markiplier made pcs in his free time
*_I S T H A T T H E B I T E O F 8 7_*
Your rude
Lukasxwierda you’re a Karen
Lukasxwierda Imagine playing Fortnite
Just an Italian Soldier who likes to retreat image saying playing fortnite i bet you too play the damn game so stfu .
The thing is there's so much more you can do with a PC that you just never will be able to do on a console.
True
Never say never
@@nastynikos5666 never
The question is wether you want to do that. I personally buy consoles specifically because I want a system that is just for gaming and nothing else (ok except maybe for Netflix). My favorite gaming device right now is Nintendo Switch. It's plug and play and super convenient.
I do work on my Laptop, don't need a PC rig for that
@@teehundeart You can just put your OS on a M.2 SSD, and it'll load programs faster than the PS4 can load games. There's frontends like Launchbox and GOG Galaxy that can be used to load games from different launchers and emulators in one location. Not to mention that a custom built PC offers better remote play capabilities than either PS4 or Xbox since console manufacturers tend to cheap out on network cards.
With all that in mind, a PC can be made to be more convenient than a console. With a frontend and a fast SSD, I can go from loading Dark Souls 3 to MegaMan Battle Network to Virtual On to DMC 5 to God Hand which is a process that would require me to constantly swap out my consoles. In my opinion, eliminating the process of swapping out consoles just to play different games is the ultimate form of convenience.
With that said, I'm not hating on your gaming preferences, brother. I like gaming on the Switch, and No More Heroes 3 is my most anticipated game of the year. Astral Chain, BOTW, and Fire Emblem 3 Houses are among my favorite games this gen.
Even though it’s $555 instead of $500, I don’t see a ps5 editing videos and checking discord or streaming with obs etc etc. even though a gaming pc is “meant” for gaming, it’s still a computer, so it can do a hell of a lot other things that the ps5 can’t lol
Facts
Bro ramen is definetly better then soup
to be fair you don't buy it for that
@@patricktumaliuan744 if you have the money to build a PC you would probably have set some aside for peripherals
@@patricktumaliuan744you act like you dont have to buy a monitor and hdmi cable with a console ?
No, it's not the first time. This always happens at the start of a generation when the hardware in consoles is actually new instead of 7 years old
No it is the first time the ps4 hardware could be beat easily when it first came out
The ps4 literally had laptop gpu which was easily beatable at that moment when it came out
@@kianmarcial8884 the ps5 gpu is beatable
@@Sajddhhs by your mom (like yourself)
@@mrbig1022 bro wtf you on about
"for specs that powerful , you would normally find that in a 800$ dollar computer"
me: mike wazoski with sullys face because i recently built a 700$ pc
I wish you could insert the meme instead of sayinh
pc was a better investment dw
Don’t worry within a year ps5 users gotta pay 50 bucks for ps+
Specs?
Built a pc for $500 dollars with a ryzen 5 3600, gtx 1660, 16gbs ram, 500w power supply, a320 motherboard, cooler master case, 500gb ssd, 1terabyte hhd
Tbh honey has never saved me anything and I’ve had it for a a couple years now..
Same
Always disappointed when i see it say no coupons
@@Humbsnubs I get it a decent amount buying clothes.
Never works for anything you want...ive scored a couple of 5% best buy coupons here and there but nothing usually.
It works but only for well known coupons
The specs are too good to be cheap though, and there's a lot you cant do with a PS5 that you can do with a PC so I still don't see it as a real competitor especially cause you can never upgrade it.
I might give in and buy a ps4 never thought I would join the console team
@ItsWirax yes because of all the exclusivestuff but still, pc all the waay
You do know that consoles make their money back cause they get 10% of every game sold and online subscription
Plus this has like a 240gb ssd which is way slower
I would just rather just spend Abit more money on a PC and get a PC that is better plus then the games on PC are aload cheaper
my depression kicks in when i realize that this 500 dollar pc is better than my 900 dollar laptop
Yes man, word of advice never buy a laptop. Except maybe an extremely cheap one for work if needed. I used to make same mistake
@@samhoey8247 noted. gonna start gradually collecting parts to build a pc hopefully i can build one 4 to 6 months from now
@@qeph5313 goodluck to you sir and your pc building adventures 👌🏾
@@bankaispirits thanks! I'll probably start with finding a cpu + motherboard
its like buying a car without tuning the engine and whatever. you gotta salvage and upgrade.
Consoles are back to being the better bang for your buck for gaming but when you have a pc you have more then just a gaming device which should come into consideration when talking prices and $
And even for gaming, you can play games for every single console except for the Xbox One, which is like the Fort Knox of encryption.
Andrew Marsh PC components are only expensive if you’re a smoothbrain that buys them on Amazon for full MSRP during the high season, true men of culture like myself know how to get brand new PC components for less than a used console (and more powerful than the console). If you get used components from the right source, you might as well be playing games for free.
Exactly.. why spend $600 on a console and then $2000 on a Mac
@@kpgpwi64 Why would you game on a Mac
Also don't have to pay 50 bucks a year to play online. It screws you over long term and I would have to go out and buy a 4K display which I don't want to do...
Everyone obsessed with specs while I'm here loving my Nintendo switch. I feel it's the games that matter.
also nintendo has a shit ton of exclusives , charm and reign over the causal and child market
Games do matter but if those games are on a PC, Xbox or PS then you will get a way better experience that what you can on a Switch. If you prefer a Switch then more power to you.
I have a PC and I bought a Nintendo switch just to play Nintendo games
King Graveth it was then, everyone I know has one now
@King Graveth Why would a pc user make fun of a nintendo switch user? If your going to buy a switch you know damn well that its not going to give you 240 frames. Rather like you said they buy it for the portability and the games where you can't get anywhere else.
I used to be a console pleb and I’m tempted to buy a Ps5 but I think PC will still be better as it’s a multifunctional workstation and not just a *play*
station
Well, that's obvious isn't it.
the only reason anyone would buy a console is if all they do is gaming, its pc master race for a reason, because even lower end pcs can do more shit then a brand new console.
On consoles even typing anything with a joystick and abc keyboard layout is a fucking nightmare
And tell me besides gaming and gaming related activities what do you do on your pc daily (that you probably would and do more on your phone)?
Ralston Metz lol pc gaming still is better more options like any input of your liking modding small dev games that aren’t on console lol console only does gaming and still does it worse omegalul
This dude is literally the only one who acctually convinced me to get honey lmaoooooo
@anshim01 haha
@@rayanhach same.
What about mrbeast
Does honey actually work tho
@@ibossan5861 ye
You gotta keep in mind that more teraflops doesn't completely translate to better gaming performance - a gtx 1070 outputs about 6.5 teraflops, yet has very similar performance to a 1660ti
980 ti here, same performance as a 1070, lower teraflops
realised reality teraflops mean nothing tbh
Guy doesn't realize that the TFLOPs of the PS5 and Xbox Series X is in FP32, NOT FP16... The PS5 GPU is closer to an RTX 2080...
@@scalliboy2698 talk to me after the ps5 releases and tell me then that it's as strong as a 2080 lol
@@ryanhealey1300 it is tho, the Series X is throwing 100+ fps in gears 5 at 4k 'beyond' ultra, MS also stated that it was an early port and no optimization was made
They sell it at a loss to get the money back selling games
Exactly
Not last generation. If I’m correct, both Xbox One and PS4 earned 18 dollars per unit on release. As years go on, production costs get cheaper, so they eventually earn a considerable sum
Plus the monthly fee players pay for online
no shit sherlock
@@Basidus258 each unit can earn, but that cannot include RnD costs. It's the ongoing game sales and yearly console revenue that is required to justify that investment
"I'm kinda insecure, I wanna see bigger numbers, I'm overcompensating." hahaha that sums up the tech and gaming world.
can we just appreciate his AMAZING crosshair movement even while running with a knife
0:01 and here I am finally getting a PC (hopefully) for the first time in my life. 🙃
im in the same boat mate
Good luck bois
Same
Let's just remember 2 things though, the fact that you don't have to pay $80 yearly to play, and that the PC can also be used for studying and schoolwork for students. And just about everything else for everyone else
same
If I didn’t have to pay $60 a year I’d probably still be on console
$60? I pay $39.99 a year. Got to catch those sales man.
Samee
wuuut, i pay 200
@@anonymoususerhere still more than 0
Free games every week on epic, a lot of amazing indie games and rly big discounts on steam.
Honestly being able to run windows at full speed is what sells pcs for me. I would keep a 1650 and an i3 just so I can run windows and have all my emulators and steam games.
isn’t that bottleneckinrg?
@@GhostHacker97 depends on his CPU he could have a i3 5th generation or i3 10th gen.
If I'm correct they have a lot of custom hardware in it and I believe their are some parts in it that you can't get for pcs
its supposed to match performance not "be the ps5". Anyways the parts aren't as good as you think they are. everyone always hypes up the consoles so much when they end up being garbage lol
Yea no Linus tech tips explained how everything in the ps5 is just the same as pc shit
Can't get for pc isn't a valid argument. U can't get N64 chips for pc dosnt make it special
@@omega4269 how
@@girlsdrinkfeck He made a whole frickin video on it...go check his channel
Imagine if the ps5 is like 900$ lmao
Could use a ryzen 5 3600 and rx 5700xt for that money lmao.
Jude Price that’s literally what I’m doing lmao. $1200 budget doe 😂😳
@@PWNINGxPENGUIN literally the exact build i have but i have the 3600x instead of the normal (i got it for the same price as the 3600)
Jude Price actually 2080super not 5700xy
@@kariuki925 2080 super costs £700-750 in my country and the 5700xt is same price as rtx 2060 but performing way better
Why cant everyone chill, consoles are getting better value, pc's are getting better specs, and we should all just accept it.
No this is not hating on consoles, this is trying to find a build for the same price with similar specs
I think the main reason they are mad is because people own these kind of computers that cost way more than a PS5 but then when it was announced to be $400 everyone got mad not because they don't like consoles but because they would rather have a computer but they can't afford it.
Bx Dx you cant build a computer as powerful as the ps5 for $400 and even if you use used parts your chances are low
@@sauceontheside2804 nah its straight up impossible, And its not fair to compare a brand new ps5, to some used parts that are 2 years old. Also its not just the system, remember that you get a very advanced controller finally exceeding the switch controller, which up to now had been the most advanced controller in the world. Also, you get an HDMI cable so for what it's worth I think its good to mention it. Im going to love pc channels trying to scramble their words to make it seem they built a pc as powerful as the ps5, for the same price. Keep in mind they are not allowed to use a gpu without rt cores, because the ps5 does support ray tracing. Once a youtube shows me a build that performs better than the ps5 and with the controller, I shall say they are better value. And it cant be one of those stupid videos showing a game running at low settings and getting higher fps than console, because I just saw one trying to say they had just built a pc for 250 and it was more powerful than the series x because it could do fortnite 1080p low settings and get 165fps, then when I commented to try epic settings at 4k and see what fps he would get there, his response was that no one plays that way : D. Ok I have written a fucking book what is wrong with me
Vendetta thank you somebody finally agree with me there is no way that you could build a pc for the same price and get the same results in this time (especially because the prices for things went up due to coronavirus) (except ram that is dirt cheap) I will make the statement that I would rather want a computer than a PS5 but for someone who is literally 14 years old that is kind of an issue
I'm impressed with the price to performance of this build. But it's very far from matching a PS5.
1) The PS5 digital edition is the correct comparison to a PC without bluray drive and that's launched for $399 MSRP
2) 240GB bottom of the barrel SATA SSD vs. Sony's 800GB super-fast SSD? Beyond laughable.
2.5) Depending on which game you want to play, you'll only fit a single game like COD: Modern Warfare (2019) with its 175GB install size on the SSD. Have fun.
3) That R5 1600 isn't close to cutting it, the most equivalent CPU is a R7 3700X
4) TFLOPS is a terrible way of measuring GPU power because it does NOT translate into FPS.
5) Both GPUs only do 6GB VRAM, that's not going to be enough to match PS5 on textures and shadow quality
5.5) Only the RTX 2060 actually supports ray tracing to put it on feature parity with the PS5 in that regard, putting you way over budget
6) Nor is 8GB RAM going to be good enough for some games and measly 2666 MHz will actually cost you a fair bit of performance
7) A $40 case is miserable to build in
8) The video outright says to get a PSU secondhand from a friend. DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON YOUR PSU!
Oh and PS5 GPU performance is closer to the 2070 Super *before* considering optimisations.
@@Steamrick thanks..saved me the trouble of writing all of that myself. i mean the guy basically weaseled his way out of the comparison with that ''TFlops'' bullshit. That PC he built is around 150 dollars more expensive than a PS5 and is nowhere near as good in terms of Case, PSU, RAM, CPU, SSD. GPU is the only thing that's close to PS5 performance. I mean PS5 plays DMC5 on 4K 60 FPS with RT mode On. Hits 4K(Dynamic) 120 but RT off. good luck to that PC matching that. copied most of your comment to make my own comment. again thanks for your effort.
what super fast ssd. a 7200 rpm 50 dollar hdd loads rdr2 faster than ps5. "fast ssd". I am a student. I have to do school work. My father built me this pc which I game on spare time. I don't have money to buy games. Pirate until I earn money. That ray tracing is software ray tracing. Nvidia rtx gpus have dedicated cores for ray tracing. Compared to the shit looking ray tracing .
@@prasiddhathapa3822 red dead redemption isn't even patched for ps5.....
@@alex360c then what should I do ? oh ohh rdr2 doesn't have patches. I was not aware of a patch in my pc. In raw performance ps5 ssd is shit. If even hdd is more faster than ps5 which ps fanboys claims to has the faster ssd than those ssd manufacturers whose division is solely make ssds, then I dunno what I will say.
I wouldn't call this a killer, but it does have many advantages.
That’s literally what he said at the end of his video that it’s comparable In performance but can do much more and has a good game exclusives like PS
@@eric8666 This PC build is not at all comparable to the PS5. Not only is it's CPU architecture nearly two generations behind and has two cores less, the PS5's GPU has 30% more Compute Units than the RX 5700 XT which is itself much more powerful than the GPU in this PC.
Kendall Smith ps5 gpu has 4 less cu compared to rx 5700xt.
@@malathomas6141 A notable difference is the the RX 5000 series is based on RDNA 1 graphics architecture, while the PS5 and XSX are based on the RDNA 2 architecture - which is claimed to have 50% more power than equivalent RDNA 1 SKUs.
Yea you can do much much more with a pc
Wait I've been struggling to sell my $500 PC the specs are R5 2600x, RX 570, 16GB 3000mhz, 550w, H510 case
Ok and?
Hmmm, I would buy it cause it's a good deal but I don't want to be spending a lot of money right now.
I'll give you a like so more people see it to help you out, good luck
Are you selling it for 500 or what are you selling it for?
@@steelko665 I worded that wrong the pc cost $580 at microcenter and I can't sell it for $500
@@willfredo3854 Maybe because its worth spending the extra 80 bucks for all the warranties?
As soon as I saw that A320 I was like, "Ah no..."
Motherboard can be temporary my man,or u could get the gigabyte a320m s2h v2(this motherboard use b350 chipset)
@@frex2853 Yeah but the point of this is to spend $500. If you but a temporary motherboard you end up spending a lot more
@@AJSquirrel53 hey,do you know any better motherboard at that price?the pc didn't even win every part at the competition with ps5.if u really didn't like a320m motherboard then just wait a few month till u get a few dollar until it's enough to buy cheapest b450 motherboard
@@frex2853 Yeah that's a totally valid option, and that's the beautiful thing about PC's - that you can upgrade.
It's just that if you're sticking to $500 total in the end, you might not want to spend money on something you're not planning on keeping
idk what he was talking about everything added up is like 650
"While this case may not be $40....
*Shatters glass*
It sure is now!"
Me after watching Kristofer Yee for 1 hour
( time lapse begins)
“ not this song”
Well, this video definitely did not age well, no one can match that specs with a 400 budget
is there a way to build a better PC CHEAPER you are saying?
r3 3100/ i3 9100f with gtx 1650 super
@@b.henriques9871 it can't compete
@@kenmarkollano5795 console peasent
@@b.henriques9871 -Can't come up with a good reply or comeback
-Just uses "Console peasent".
By the way, you spelled peasant wrong, it's "peasAnt" not "peasEnt". A, not E.
Have fun trying to build something like this in Canada, we might as well be a third-world country when it comes to availability and price of PC parts.
This is a big reason why I enter like a million giveaways for PC parts, everything is so expensive so winning just about *anything* would be a great start towards building a new PC.
Yeah facts bro us Canadians are struggling i just upgraded from a i3 6100 and 150 to a i7 6700k and 2060 super and just those two parts alone were over 1000$
I think my next upgrade will be to ryzen though because they are so much better bang for buck
At least you don't have a YEARLY salary of $6k (yes I did not forget any zeros) like in my country.
*Australia enters the chat*
Yea but in south america for example a gtx 2080ti costs 2330usd do you think thats ok
imagine he pulled out a 3070 and got it for $250 😂
Only if GPU miners did not exist
Then 3070 be cheaper
@Top Noodle refurbished/used might be able to
The 3070 costs as much as two ps5s at scalper price
@Top Noodle Sounds like a fair deal to me 😂
Meanwhile on Xbox: Um... we have like Halo... and Gears of War??
Microsoft: You can play those on PC
Xbox: so we have no reason to exist
Guess what...
@@wqbb287 whar
Microsoft messed up with that one. Should’ve kept their exclusives to themselves
@@Justin_GFM no they are smart for doing that
@@shalow9158 some people like consoles...
Just to put this out here, Sony has not yet confirmed a price. The 500$ is just speculation.
if it’s anymore people won’t buy it, they will sell at a loss if they have to. maybe if there are larger ssd options
@Thomas Borisov never. At least the digital edition will be less than 500 dollars.
How did that turn out? The 500/400 price tag rumor was real .
Didn't age so well.
@@ult935 scalpers: no its not
A few things:
1. the 1600 for $105 is the AF model so its basically a slightly lower clocked 2600. It is a 2000 series cpu even though it has a 1000 series name and is the smaller nm architecture.
2. I'd recommend grabbing the ASRock B450M Pro4 for $80. Much better mobo and can overclock. Plus its a 400 series board instead of the 300 series board. So that is an extra $25 to spend on it instead of the better GPU. As someone who has had two 300 series boards, they are not that good and have stability issues.
3. From #2, you can grab another set of sticks bringing the ram to 16GB. So that's another $30 there. Possibly less since youd be buying a pack of four rather than two packs of two.
I agree with your first two points, but I wouldn't buy two kits of 2x4gb for 16gb. I understand there's a small increase in price, but if you want 16gb then get a 2x8gb kit with better timings, say 3000mhz cl15, and it'll run at its xmp more reliably than having 4 sticks. That way you have room for an upgrade to 32gb in the future.
I’m sorry I may not be the most experienced in pcs but when I heard “teraflops” I thought “wow I didn’t know things so cool can be called that” 🤣
We can't forget about the fact that you have an actual computer, so you can use it for video editing, using apps, and a million other things you can't do on a console. Simply having a desktop computer is the reason this machine is so much more of a better deal.
That’s why I want a pc instead of the ps5 lol I’m sick of not being able to do anything other than play a couple of good games. All the fun stuff to do is on an actual computer
Saggy Nagy it’s infinitely better having the freedom to do what you want and not just switch from game to game all day
or you know.... you could have a phone...
ilovepatryk 21 Yep because I can use high quality editing software, play stupid browser games for fun when I’m bored, play PC exclusives on steam, and have multiple tabs open while I’m on a phone. Forgot lol
@@saggynagy2937 its 2020, phones have pretty good editing software now. forgot? lol
Gets 149 fps with a 555 dollar build
Me: gets 30 frames in minecraft with a 1300 dollar laptop.
Let me guess it's a mac
@@-TheRealCozmik- macs are shit value better off using a hacintosh
Bro my laptop was fkn $1500 and i cant run minecraft, and i crash with more than 2 chrom tabs
@@nastynikos5666 nohate Bro but why do you even buy a laptop
@@nastynikos5666 Bruh what are you on..that price point must be really outdated if it runs that bad.
i love how you werent shitting on the ps5 or consoles in general the whole video like others usually do, good video man. pc is def better for a lot of things but consoles have their upsides
Not sure what was worse, the motherboard or his sensitivity
Everyone has a preference
KristoferYee : talk about 8 core
Me : *hold my duo core*
Lol
Same xd
500 dollars for a really good ps5
me: damn, now if only I didn't have to buy online ps5 to play online which eventually adds up...
Edit: it seems I've started some kind of pc console war in the comment section...
if you guys want my take since I have a pc owned a ps2 Xbox 360 and on weekends I go to my cousins which have 2 ps4. Nintendo switch with like 15+ games (60$ each lul Nintendo), Xbox one with the game pass. My take is console has definitely become more viable of an option but is really hard for me to choose as a pc player who doesn't like yearly or monthly stuff which add up (would take a big chunk of my money which id rather save up for the next thing id buy whether that be pc or something. and don't have parents who'd by a switch game on a whim +3 Nintendo consoles that my cousin's tiny brother destroyed) id rather just collect free games from epic games (which overall have been better than ps4, xbox one, Nintendo switch "free games" still pretty gud *sometimes*) and save up money for masterpieces which I can buy for dirt cheap and complete such as dungeon which I got for 5$ on sale and sometimes I hear bundles are good but don't tend to be on the lookout. Also checked today that the game pass is on both console and pc and without a dought one of the best deals for short term to me (maybe create multiple accounts to keep getting that 1$ deal on games which progress isn't a priority)
overall when it comes to discord, youtube, email. gaming etc. is a lot more convenient as you can have things running and playing on the background and foreground seamlessly.
I want to add more of what I think are the pros and cons of each console, pc whatever but on a finished note, il say me and my brother are saving up around 1000$+ in which well buy a new pc and do a build where i will document what is the best price/quality u can get for the money we have at the time for our purposes...
*If your read trough this far thank u =)*
Hilarious that console owners think they’re getting a good deal when they’ve slowly spent hundreds of dollars to use their own WiFi
Don’t of players pay for internet too....?you mean a subscription to servers you mean you can share it with one account saving lots of money
500 for the console, plus 300 for 5 years of ps plus (60$ a year, for five years which will probably be the time until a new one gets announced)= 800$, in addition to 120 free games. Sounds like a good deal to me.
@@BadrAlrawi 60x5 is 300 :l
MeMe Tiger $1000 dollars is a good deal? There are thousands of free games on steam
"There has never been a moment in history when buying a console was better than building your own pc" uhhh I love pc gaming but there's many times in history when consoles made more sense.
i know not a lot of people care about retro stuff now but this was absolutely not the case early on in games. When gaming was still primarily 2D, PCs simply didn't have the graphics horsepower to do fast, smooth scrolling because of specialized hardware on NES and other consoles of that era. When Sonic was zooming at 60fps, platformers were basically impossible on PC. Commander Keen was a huge step forward. It wasn't til 3d games came that pcs started to make more sense, with doom being the real showcase.
It wasn't til recently that the libraries of consoles and PCs were similar. If you're a JRPG fan like I am, a PS2 back in the day made a ton more sense because uh jrpgs didn't come to pc.
When consoles typically come out, they're usually better buys than PC because console makers subsidize the hardware with accessories and games, while having high end hardware. the 360 back in the day was a great buy in regard to price to performance, with the 360's GPU being faster than the fastest Nvidia Card (7800 GTX) out at the time and cheaper for an example.
PCs being a better buy than console is a relatively new phenomenon. This generation with Xbox One and PS4 is honestly a bit of an exception rather than the rule
How am I the first like?🤔🤔🤔🤔
Rockmandash12 gt 730 was out then and can still run games on 60 fps low settings so no 7800 gtx was not the best
bro I’m not gonna read that
*nods* The only time PC had consoles clearly beat is with the PS4/Xbox One.
Both going with PC hardware (from AMD) made comparing it to PCs easy and the comparison didn't look good. They went with a plain bad laptop CPU and a mid-range graphics cards - and the price wasn't even that good, I think these were also the first consoles ever from Sony/MS that sold with a profit on every unit since day one. They both cheaped out and made very mediocre consoles.
Other times it was either in a bit of a grey area where something could be said for either side or consoles were straight up simply better. And thankfully after that weird one off we're back to the consoles being up there with high end PCs. Give it a year or two and midrange PCs will likely offer similar performance and for the remaining 8 years after that whilst we're waiting for the PS6/XBox something PCs will have consoles beat again.
@@Axeiaa???? The GPU in the next gen consoles 8s equivalent to the 5700/5700xt, Wich is a mid- high end card .. the cpu is a downclocked Ryzen 3700, so more like a 1700/2700... Those specs you can get for around 800 full build. Still an amazing price/performance for the ps5 . But saying it is high end??? Not really
Let's get one thing straight, having owned the ps4 for 7 years with the £45 yearly subscription and the additional price I've payed for the games being more expensive compared to steam It's cost me £1100 over 7 years to enjoy my PS4 and that only plays game nothing else really so might as well spend a few hundred more and get a pc that'll be more useful for tasks and work
Is the yearly subscription mandatory?
@@robbenvanpersie1562 only if you wanna play online for games that are not free to play
Sticking with the PS5.
the games are cheaper on console if you buy them used and sell them back. also you dont have to wait for pc sales.
the real advantage pc has with the games is you can pirate them for free.
@@CosmicVoid420 Uhm... The PS4 and below is hackable? There's that.
Eh PS4 released they said 60fps in everything and in most games it gives 30
Almost a decade ago tho. Games get harder to run as time goes by
Well PS4 and Xbox run warzone 1080 60fps so idk where that 30 fps is coming from
@@mish.-. they dont.
@@h4imon are you sure about that
@FamlyFrendlyUsername they believe 144 4k because that is the max potential. People are going to be spoon pissed when it is 30fps 4k and 60fps 1080p. Games are extremely hard to play at 4k 144 on 1500 systems, try that on a fucking minifridge
this is great for people on a budget i’ve shown you to tons of my friends
Just tell them to get a console
@@dizzleer ew
@@dizzleer Disgustingly.
What freinds
@@dizzleer 🤮🤢🤢
Imagine having to pay to play online
This post was made by PCMR😎😎😎
What about wifi subscriptions
@@NosticGames you'd need those either way, console or pc
Anthony Fredette lol exactly
@@NosticGames you would need those on console or pc...
@@NosticGames bruh are you high? this man outed himself as a fucking idiot while trying to protect his console lmao
Idk why but the word teraflop is funny to me 😭
It's the flop part
Storage and RAM size - bytes
CPU boost clock, Monitor refresh rate and RAM speed - hertz
GPU unit - FLOP LMAO
Hehe dongle hehe
@@charleschua9930 floppy pp 😂😂😂😭😭
The whole comment section is just peps trying to defend their purchase of a console or PC. Gamers are truly oppressed D:
It is what it is.
So true.... damn.
Damn nerds...
*Laughs in 3DS*
Why can’t we all just be friends....
pc: consoles started it
consoles: pc did
@AXOTOL there's more than one Luke Skywalker?
Instructions unclear: built a 2000$ pc that also happens to be better than the ps5
Me
Yea please cover so douches don’t find u
Nicholas it was funny calm down
Nicholas H oh shoot my bad I replied to wrong comment, meant to reply to the one about him showing his location
It's not hard to beat a PS5...IMO. I think its cool what the PS5 is going to do...But I know that even my pc is better than it. Hell I'd be willing to argue that my pc will be more powerful than the series X. (Feel free to call me a "PC Elitest") The thing is, with pc gaming, you can meet the performance or exceed that of a console.
Take a shot every time he rolls his hands
at this moment i can only buy the case with 500$
"Can *insert new console here* kill PC gaming?" People have been "asking" this for the last 30 years or so and the simple answer is no. Even if the new generation of consoles somehow manage to be leaps and bounds ahead of the most expensive gaming PCs (which console makers and their fanboys claimed would happen with all of said previous consoles and yet they never were; it's almost like console manufacturers overhype their systems' capabilities before launch to drive sales), as long as there are people who want a versatile system that can do a massive number of different computing tasks and also play a huge library of games from the dawn of video gaming to present without having to buy another version of the same game you played years ago because it's no longer compatible with your new console, PC gaming is not going anywhere.
Thing is though. Until about 8-10 years ago. The PC library was abysmal. Only really offering up MMO's and a few other games that were actually worth playing.
I remember the conversation being "With all of these game being ported over to PC. There won't be a reason to own a console."
The only reason I like my ps4 is because of it's ability to unify my living room. One button and everything flips on. If I want to play a game cool. Movie, cool. TH-cam, cool. All in one proprietary setup. However the benefits of gaming on a PC extend far beyond anything that a console can do. With a little know how you can do anything with a PC. And that alone makes it worth it. My sons will have PC's over consoles for the sole reason that I want them to, at the least, learn how to do some front end and OOP(object oriented programming)
A console can't offer things like that. Nor will they ever.
@@FlockofSmeagles 2003 oo7 NightFire PC FPS and for someone that doesn't recognize oo7 Call of duty or half life or quake
@@FlockofSmeagles the only genre that I would agree with you would-be platforming games because there was a good amount of MMO and FPS games in the early 2000s I actually treasure the early 2000s for PC gaming as it was before the DLC crap that happened in 2008 that made Developers think more greedy and saving the good stuff for the DLC training us to buy the DLC before it comes out to make more money
I think there gonna include a runway with the ps5 because of how sealed off it looks
My thoughts exactly lol. That's why the xbox is going to be better
Beware of incoming attacks from the salty 12yos
According to the developers from “Deliver Us the Moon”, who are producing a game for the next-gen consoles and PC, the consoles perform close to a 2070 Super, and considering the specs, I’m expecting the CPU to be close to a 3700x, so this build isn’t a console killer unfortunately, and I don’t think a 2070 Super with a 3700x is an 800$ computer, for that we’ll have to wait until 2023-2024 to get a true console killer for 400$ (probably the PS5 price will drop to this value by then)
And by the way, the RTX 2060 isn’t capable of 12 teraflops of 32-bit, I genuinely laughed when you said that, because the PS5 has 10.28 teraflops of 32-bit, while the RTX 2060 has 6 teraflops of that same metric, and 12 teraflops of 16-bit (the PS5 has 20.56 tflops of 16-bit)
No hate towards your video, but I just wanted to leave this here
Nerd
They’ve already said what the cpu is, it’s not comparable to a 3700x. Preforms worse, not saying it’s bad but it’s not a 3700x. And damn by 2024 console players will have already paid like $200 just to use their own WiFi lmao. Consoles can make their price so good for the hardware because it’s not a one time purchase, they can milk more money for years to come
Ethan Alexander yep. Monthly subscriptions, games, extra peripherals etc.
@@blarb4249 source? I haven't seen anyone comment on the CPU
@@Yorozuya4ever extra peripherals which are 100% optional, just like those 100$ mechanical keyboards that 60% of PC gamers buy just because of the RGB and sound
Ah yes, the good old days when literally everything was reasonably priced, the days when we could complain about the 1080 ti being $600 😢
Xbox series x: "am i a joke to you?"
Yes
Yes it is a joke
@@poopsniffer4436 hm?
Bloxer Gaming what
@@poopsniffer4436 the series x isn't a joke lol
honestly I don't see why people are comparing ps5 to PC, imo console is such a different experience then PC.
Plot twist: the lack of computer parts is cause sony is buying all of them for ps5
Sony uses proprietary parts for their PS5 so this joke doesn't even work and it's not funny.
DawidALT lol
Guess I know what I'm fighting for this christmas
One thing I want to point out is consoles are sold at a loss and they regain that money with digital licenses like ps plus or xl gold, and if I can recall correctly, game creators have to pay to put their games on that specific platform but I don't remember if that's true or not
perfect timing refreshed my subscriptions as i was about to eat my food LOL
what are u eating?
Yeah what are you eating?
dude seriously what are you eating?
What 👏 are 👏 you 👏 eating
What are you eating brother?
Editor: How many memes do you want
KristoferYee: yEs
Pc costs 500, my country: how about 1000 dollars
Pc parts are now inflated
Must be fun for people living in foreign countries.
"At least this computer wont look like a router"😂
It will look like a big box
@@KARVELIT like every pc ever existing?
@@KARVELIT I guess You never seen a PC
Guess what..fanboys are better with Fridge/router
@Bear Omega dont think you guys will have rgb fans with sick ninja dudes fighting on your motherboard that's what I thought console peasant we know you guys cant afford to buy pc parts to multitask with gaming, watching vids, editing, etc
I literally just got done watching your "his wife can't find his PC" video 😂😂 and now onto the next video!! Thanks for always making my days better Kris 🙂❤️
The deal with console is that there are people that don't want to open their stuff because they don't know how to build a PC they just want to play games
You can buy pre builds but building a PC is not as hard as people may think it is
@@crazymonkey60123 Pre builds are trash and if you want to do it right, it takes a lot of time, research and effort. Thats why the console market exists
@@crazymonkey60123 very true, there are plenty of videos to help. Or you can pay someone to build it for you. Way better than a pre built.
Something you missed is that the ps5 comes with a free controller. But the pc doesn’t come with a mouse and keyboard which is easily another 20-50$ on the absolute low end.
If you only game on a console, you won't be playing you're old games in your library and you have to pay for online and games are cheaper on pc. So when you buy ps plus for 5 years and the ps5, that's going to be 800 bucks. That's the price of a new pc, and you can do much more with a pc
800 USD upfront + Games is not the same as 800 USD across 5 years.. You can even sell your consoles and the games if your sick of it.. So technically Console are less heavy in the wallet.
Games I played in 2020
Residenevil 2 and 7
Skyrim
Original ff 7
Styx
Overwatch
Assassin creed unity
Overwatch
Morrowind
God of war three
Dc universe online
Old games....
Only new game I played was Jedi fallen order re 3 and free to play battle royal if that counts...also games aren’t cheaper on pc they just go on sale more often sometimes or sooner .... it depends. I know this because I’m a fiend for sales. This used to be true, it’s not anymore really. Example amnesia collection on console is 3 dollars this very moment and soul caliber delux edition was 20 buck last week, etc.
People out here acting like they watched they video even though it got uploaded 5 mins ago😐
Who's watching this after the 3000 searees announcement
RTX 2000 series is very cheap right now. Better build a PC rather than buying a Shit PS5
@@yellowtone1505 damn why so mad lol
@@rasmus.lundin06 bruh whats so bad about console gaming if people like it...
Paperybasher334 nothing people just mad
@@rasmus.lundin06 whats wrong with being gay lmao?
the thing is with the ps5 pricing they try to take your mind of how you have to pay 60$ a year for online and pay for
overpriced games
They have to take profit from somewhere
Offended?
@@ItsNylrak yeah but they should do it how prebuilt pcs do it and put a fee on top of all the prices of the parts instead of fooling you into thinking it’s cheap
i can imagine someone buying a ps5 just to get the parts cheaper. (make video pls lmao it will be funny)
Lol
I don’t think that’s possible because the technology inside the ps5 is only for the ps5
@@tsl_finesse_6025 If you look at the table in the second minute, its definitely usable for a pc
leaving comment
TSL_ Finesse_ tru I bet a lot of it is specially made for it.
2:29 in my country uruguay 🇺🇾 that would probably cost 1200 usd
No wey tampoco tanto ni en argentina xĐ
in Canada it'd cost me almost 800
Haha funny inflation...
@Carlos AVG si :(
No offence but I thought that said urgay
This is my POV, but I am and still have a lot to learn. So Sony is targeting 4k 120 FPS right? So they're expecting 1 everyone to have a 120Hz display, 2 they're doing this over HDMI? Doesn't HDMI 2.0 Limit to 4k 60Hz?
i think hdmi 2.1 can do it.
HDMI 2.1
4k 120fps on video yeah. On gaming hell no lmao
@@disagreed3976 We still don't know what is it capable of. Same for xbox series x.
@@bertracoon1884 But that is not an industry standard yet. And most monitors will most likely not support it.
Feels so good to be able to watch this on a ps5 a year later cause of scalpers
I think we all should be happy that consoles are getting better for an affordable price 🙂☺️
Yeah but goodluck paying 50$ for every game
@@furqaansiddiqui9391 I mean, what else
@@vgernheli5467 memberships to play online?
@@furqaansiddiqui9391 I'm lost now, you jumped from $50 games to memberships, what is it that you want to discuss?
@@vgernheli5467 just that pc is more value
sony sells at a loss so people see the good value, and end up paying for online
@Ridwan Kawser it is true.
how though they are only collecting 60 bucks per consol a year extra for internet services?
They are not selling at a loss this time. The PS5s production costs were reported at $450.
that was true in the past but the ps4 wasn't sold at a loss
this statement makes no sense lmao its sony you dont think they got all them parts for dirt cheap from amd theres a thing called buying in bulk ....if they sold at a loss for making 60 dollars a year off your ps plus pass that still wouldnt make them a profit off their consols then
I know it was a time lapse, but you put that together really fast 😂😂....maybe I’m just slow.
Reverse thinking:
This is what I'm doing too.
These are reasonable estimates:
PS5 Controller: $60
PS5 NVME 850 GB: $170
PS5 4K Bluray: $100 (I just subtracted the one with optical minus the digital version.)
A GPU that can handle games at 4k at good FPS: $350
A Motherboard: $150
A CPU and Fan capable of not bottlenecking the GPU: $250
A Case: $40 (Going really cheap here)
A 4K HDMI cable (I think it's included...not sure): $15
Total is $1,135 so far and that is not counting on the fact the a lot of these components are custom small form factor parts to be crammed inside this case. We all know that those parts are pricier. Also, not counting on the fact the there has to be a tiny markup at least. Amazon and Best Buy have to make a little money, so a PS5 has to be less than $500 for those retailers.
Also, keep in mind that many of us with PS4s will probably sell them for $150 or so because the PS5 can do backwards compatibility. So the customer will have some cash to offset much of the $500 cost.
In summary, one heck of a bargain!!
Kristofer: Ain’t buying this its ganna take more than 2 weeks !
Me: *patiently* waiting for my GE Raider coming after 85days ._.
With a PC you can still make upgrades along the way, unlike with PS5 where you would be stuck with the specs until newer generation ones come out.
PS5 PRO
Dylan Fonseca yeah you spend a whole other 500$ for another convole with barely any upgrades, no thanks
@@SanLeMans this video is kinda bullshit coz the only specs you are looking at are fps, which are not the only things to look at. On PC we nearly all stucked at 1080 resolution while on next gen we ll reach the 4k. I'm not saying that the PS5/XBOX SX are better than a computer but in terms of hardware on the tim eit is cheaper, i got an xbox from 2013 and it works better on average than my 2019 laptop in every game. The major point for PCs is that we can do everything with it, play, work, watch things it has a way better accessibility.
In terms the next gens are there for people who want quality and strengh in terms of hardware for huge games which will come out like cyberpunk 2077 and nearly everybody can afford a 500 console , the PCs are more turned for competitive games. The best we can do is buy both ;3
@@kevinpegny5129 how are we stuck on 1080p on PC?
Kévin Pegny having a pc you pay for the premium of having long lasting high quality components which you can switch later on, you pay more to pay less, it’s an and investment, PC can easily go 4K 120+ FPS with not only better graphics but you pay being able to directly stream on it and multitask without it sounding like a vacuum cleaner. And honestly most people don’t have 4K monitors as tv’s let alone a 120hz one, 60hz at most. Plus when you pay for a pc it’ll look awesome and sexy with the Aesthetic of your likings, it’s customizable inside out, i mean custom watercooling tubes and cases cmon now.
actually insane that the ps5 has that much power considering it cost $400 (not counting $500 ps5 since it’s only that price because of disk drive)
I'm not a ps5 hater but it is pretty crazy that a console can output that much power more compared to something like a ps3 or ps4
Came back here to send this video to my friend that was thinking about upgrading his ps4 to a ps5. So I put on an argument about getting a PC instead.
I decided to stay and rewatch the video to refresh my memory. Thank you for this video!
even so a point still stands, the vast majority of enthuses who are going to buy the new consoles at launch are going to get ps plus and xbox live. you need these things to play online (for xbox every game) and for playstation most. considering that the fee of 60 usd a year that equates to 420 over a 7 year span the minimum time between the next "gen" consoles (like the ps6) considering that if we now take a budget of 920 usd for building a pc (because it doesn't cost jack to play online on pc) than you can build a better system and also take all the benefits of a pc, like you can do work on it, more variety of games just not present on console and the ability to play console exclusive games, like ps4 spiderman, or even like breath of the wild on pc. to this playstation players will make the argument that you get access to games through ps plus, however hypothetically if someone didn't want to play any of those games but wanted to play online they would need the pass, however this is unlikely and the argument is still valid that playstation plus is a benefit, on the xbox side of things xbox game pass is not an argument cause you can get it on pc as well and that also semi counters ps plus also giving a netflix type game selection thing but you don't need this to play online in general. look i am trying to wank pc's i don't care what you do its your money, i am just trying to present an argument that no one is considering this with all the other benefits of pc i still think its a better deal to get over the ps5 and xbox series x (ps5 digital too good value you cant beat it price to performance no matter what you do). the 920 build would be (prices might be jacked up right now for some parts). Cpu, Ryzen 3 3100 $100, Motherboard, ASRock B550M Pro4 mATX $95, RAM, GeIL EVO SPEAR DDR4-3200 $55, Seta SSD, Inland Professional 120 Gb 500/470 MBps $18, Hardrive, 2 Tb Seagate Barracuda $55, Video card, RTX 3070 Founders Edition $499, PSU, SeaSonic S12III 650 W 80+ Bronze $65 and a case with good airflow with the remaining budget.
My mind: “I haven’t a clue what’s going on here, but I’ll act like I do!”
I am not reading that
or you can do a 14 day trial method to get free psn LOL
Send me a video where you can play ps4 spiderman on pc?
With this build, you could barely do 1440p 60fps with all settings low. The 2060 and 1660ti are great 1080p cards, and even then they struggle on some games at 1080 ultra. 11 months later, the PS5 and Series X are oceans better than this.
Rich people: I don't need to choose, I can just buy a pc and a console.
Me: potato potato I don't even have $5
this guy build a decetn pc for $5 you just need to go looking for scrap parts and ask stores if they are throwing away any parts
i guess you don’t have to choose either 😂 all jokes tho i’m broke too 😂
Get a job
@@lofty4629 -_-
Build a $600 pc in 2021 id watch that over nd over again
I still see that OwO gpu in the background staring into my soul
*installs OBS*
* uses external camera footage for gameplay*
@TIMOTHY POWERS ik, i just found it funny, merry christmas though
@TIMOTHY POWERS its not gpu intensive it's cpu and ram
i love the ps4 might have slowed down a little over time but its amazing. i is was so happy that the ps5 was coming out but man add on the price of plus membership every year it stacks up computers are 100% worth
it's only 40$ a year. Games are also way cheaper on playstation. I have a ps4 pro and a 2070s and Ryzen 5 3600 pc and games are way cheaper on PS4 trust me
Online play might be free next gen
I am trying to build my first pc and chose this parts hope you see it
CPU-Ryzen 5 5600x
Motherboard-idk suggestion
Graphics card-RTX 1660
Ram-16gb
SSD-1TB
HDD-2TB
500 80+ bronze power supply
And don’t know any cases
It’s a 900$ budget build
I recommend the asus prime x570 mb. For the case I would go for the nzxt h510 I. If you are worried about thermals, go with the fractal design define 7 compact or the corsair crystal 680 x rgb.
Dont u need a 3rd gen ryzen to bios update the mobo so it can be compatible
Yea
MOBO: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Case: NZXT H510
Btw, you should wait for Nvidia to release their next line of budget gpus instead of getting a 1660 because it'll be more likely that the new gpus can run next gen games much better. These new gpus, based on the last gpu generation release, will probably come out in early 2021.