Labours Secret 22Bn Tory Black Hole Truth Explained

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ย. 2024
  • Lots of back and forth debating on the, now legendary, 22Bn Tory black hole inheritance to the Labour Government have taken place.
    The answer seems to be that the last Government should have used a budget figure in the books for public sector pay deals and didn't enter any. The Labour Government have used their own number which is, potentially, far higher than any number the Tories would have used, around 9Bn.
    Whichever way you look at this and from whichever party that you favour, it's not as clear as it should be when, as a direct consequence if takes the winter fuel allowance away, from some pensioners at least.
    Contains a full response from the Prime Minister.
    #labourparty #houseofcommons #kierstarmer #winterfuelpayments #conservative #rishisunak #rachelreeves #primeminister
    Contains Parliamentary information licensed under the Open Parliament Licence v3.0.
    Laura Kuenssberg - Copyright (C) BBC, BBC News, BBC One, BBC Worldwide, 2024.

ความคิดเห็น • 110

  • @burtonfootballer5408
    @burtonfootballer5408 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    ITS NOT A BLACK HOLE. 22 billion spent on new houses for migrants and keeping them on the rock and roll for the rest of their lives.

    • @user-zi7ep9jz1d
      @user-zi7ep9jz1d 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I agree the public see through this snake oil salesman ,does he think that we are all daft.

    • @Thegreyreaperuk
      @Thegreyreaperuk 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The strikes have stopped which the Torys wanted to continue.

    • @kf8575
      @kf8575 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Dont forget the 9 billion 20%+ payrise for junior doctors and other public sector workers.
      22 billion black hole? Truly miniscule in comparison to the 890+ billion black hole left by the last liebour government.

    • @Thegreyreaperuk
      @Thegreyreaperuk 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@kf8575 Are you on summat? Labour didn’t leave a black hole at all. Yes there was national debt of 890bn but how much was spent to bail out banks. But all our NHS, police, judicial system was all funded unlike the Tory’s who underfunded everything to the point of collapse, underpaid junior doctors to the total of 35% and wouldn’t even talk to either the doctors or train drivers ensuring strikes went ahead costing billions. Now with all this underinvestment the country is in 2.7T of debt so apart from the obvious Covid ppe corruption where has the money gone.
      Start looking into offshore accounts……….

  • @grahamtowers5513
    @grahamtowers5513 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Winter fuel allowances targeted to MP's who have 2nd homes & massive salaries, Reeves is worth over £10 million pounds & Starmer has a tax free pension to look forward to!

  • @dennisgould7804
    @dennisgould7804 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Stop the money going to bloody migrants, FFS .

  • @moose6676
    @moose6676 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Wish he would stop saying it’s important. 🙈 it’s important that the pensioners stay warm this winter. God Help them.

    • @LifeTimesPolitics
      @LifeTimesPolitics  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is the point, many could be vulnerable and most will not be able to earn extra money. Supposed to be retirement.

  • @karenlee7711
    @karenlee7711 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I dont usually like Laura but on this at least she asked questions that most news people wouldn't

  • @grahampaulshepherd6492
    @grahampaulshepherd6492 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I as MILLIONS more would love to see the FINANCIAL PROOF OF THE BLACK HOLE left by the Conservatives!!

  • @tonybain8526
    @tonybain8526 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Blaming the last government isn’t an excuse, what about the 20billion to foreign climate aid labour have promised or the 16million a day to put illegal immigrant men in heated hotels? Is that also the last government’s fault as well?

  • @kpnut59
    @kpnut59 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    You can always tell when Slimer is lying, he's breathing!

  • @willelliott1271
    @willelliott1271 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    well said girl :)

  • @jeffreycordrey1868
    @jeffreycordrey1868 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    He should be ashamed of himself and resign. Stop going on about the last government they wouldn’t treat pensioners like you traitors.

  • @carlcookson9693
    @carlcookson9693 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    If you think this is Bad, wait until October.

    • @LifeTimesPolitics
      @LifeTimesPolitics  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Please no more, already seen some rumours and the Chancellor says “wait until 30th October”😬

  • @jeanetteeftekhar6762
    @jeanetteeftekhar6762 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Just seen that junior doctors have accepted 22% over 2 years. Thats why pensioners are being punished.

  • @lewismcdonald3616
    @lewismcdonald3616 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Starmer is an absolute disgrace to the Labour party

    • @LifeTimesPolitics
      @LifeTimesPolitics  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They are not all agreeing with him that's for sure: th-cam.com/video/hRNjsjNeVD0/w-d-xo.html

  • @russellturner5310
    @russellturner5310 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What a snake oil salesman, just can’t believe a word coming out of his mouth, take responsibility and accountability.

  • @clivewiddall3430
    @clivewiddall3430 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Note he doesn’t deny that the 22 billion was labours doing!

  • @jaywebster4838
    @jaywebster4838 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    he is useless what he says..and what he dos..u can ont trust this man

  • @stevenmoses5807
    @stevenmoses5807 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    If there's a black hole ( there is not) then why are labour claiming thousands a week for heating on more than one property, take their other homes of them and sell them putting the money back into the system

    • @LifeTimesPolitics
      @LifeTimesPolitics  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If that latest accusation is true then it’s a shocking hypocrisy, especially from independently wealthy MPs.

  • @Gail2910
    @Gail2910 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If the 880000 pensioners not claiming the Pension Credit that they are supposedly entitled to but are not claiming, then any saving in not paying the Winter Allowance will be swallowed up by this Pension Credit if those entitled would get, so in reality common sense shows to leave it as it is. The man(?) is a total buffoon.

  • @madcarew5168
    @madcarew5168 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Will they find "Dark Matter" as well ??

  • @johnsmart2616
    @johnsmart2616 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not honest at all.
    To give raildrivers that kind of rise ,along with the MPs keeping their winter fuel expenses, getting sponsors to pay for you and your Mrs Clothing is untrue

  • @williamthompson4389
    @williamthompson4389 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Never mind, the train drivers will be able to keep their homes warm & cosy at the expense of the pensioners.

  • @davy9136
    @davy9136 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If the tories had done this he would have went on and on about it

  • @jackoniel7864
    @jackoniel7864 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Starver’s government is the worst in living memory an utter disgrace

  • @garythornton3765
    @garythornton3765 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    But you aren’t going after the energy companies making record profits year on year

    • @LifeTimesPolitics
      @LifeTimesPolitics  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think that's a major challenge to put to the Government. If the hard choice is taking money from pensioners.....

  • @davy9136
    @davy9136 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    He has cut the winter allowance hoping that pensioners will die from the cold and reduce the burden on the nhs, making him look like he has fixed the nhs. You won’t get away with it Starmer

  • @rossthompson6305
    @rossthompson6305 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    But he had a calculated plan before he took office 🤷‍♂️

  • @TonyWelch75
    @TonyWelch75 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My wife has just suggested I get her a new Lamborghini Urus, this would leave me with a £300k black hole, so she’s not getting one. I’m no economist but if you spend you create the black hole. Labour still haven’t worked this out.

  • @tomsteedman1882
    @tomsteedman1882 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Starmrr claims how tough to lose the winter heating allowance,he's a liar he has no clue how tough it is,he even gets someone else to pay for his clothes and his wife's as well as his specs and his seat at the Emirate Stadium

  • @JanetMorris-q5e
    @JanetMorris-q5e 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hes like a broken record

  • @ianhickling9386
    @ianhickling9386 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lies lies lies.

  • @roycook2908
    @roycook2908 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Two Tier likes to use the words "target pensioners " I am a pensioner who doesn't like being a target. Especially being the target of that excuse for a human being.

  • @Ashtarot77
    @Ashtarot77 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He's lying through his teeth. You can see it on his face.

  • @JustTakeAMoment
    @JustTakeAMoment 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    His explanation for the WFP needing to be targeted. He's already dodged the bullet that he shot at the Tories over the plan to do exactly this. The problem is the people just above the pension credit limit that won't receive a penny and in real terms will be worse off than someone who just qualifies for pension credit being just below the £11,300 per annum. Starmer has no clue whatsoever about how even those who qualify for pension credit but don't claim it because they're too proud to visit a benefits office and don't have the internet because they can't afford it.
    He's way out of order on this because he has absolutely no idea about how proud people are of themselves obviously. Let's be honest, there is nothing to be proud of in relation to our country

  • @christopherstanford4635
    @christopherstanford4635 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I hope as a newly retired person and now i have had my winter fuel allowance taken away i do not end up in hospital bed blocking with pneumonia

    • @LifeTimesPolitics
      @LifeTimesPolitics  22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I hope so too mate. 👍

  • @joysynmonds9082
    @joysynmonds9082 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    £9 bn is Labour's input !!!

  • @thetimeisnow6822
    @thetimeisnow6822 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    QUITE SIMPLE
    £22BILLION IN THE UKRAINE
    EVEN MORE GIVEN AWAY IN DONATIONS

  • @davy9136
    @davy9136 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Give it in one hand and takeaway with the other.

  • @barbarastraughn5693
    @barbarastraughn5693 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If this was true - theybwould orovide the evidence

  • @jimknight2767
    @jimknight2767 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    the only black hole is when he opens his mouth, he will be nice and warm this winter with his new clothes.

  • @DennisHughes-h8b
    @DennisHughes-h8b 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Liar.

  • @DennisHughes-h8b
    @DennisHughes-h8b 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Answer the question ffs.

  • @SuzanneJones-qy3zh
    @SuzanneJones-qy3zh 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Well starsi your not doing a good job thats for sure £64 000for driving a train ridiculous

  • @davy9136
    @davy9136 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Roasted by Laura, and you can’t answer with the truth. Oh yes it’s not his fault, it’s like Punch and Judy. Not my fault, oh yes it is 😂😂

  • @christopherstanford4635
    @christopherstanford4635 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks

  • @forest_169
    @forest_169 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If they are going to do something about energy bills in the budget why on earth not leave rhetoric announcement about winter fuel allowance till then perhaps there is worse to come if so get ready for demonstrations.

    • @LifeTimesPolitics
      @LifeTimesPolitics  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Difficult to say but any government would know what the content of the budget will be by now.

  • @barryc1968
    @barryc1968 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Shame on Starmer

  • @JustTakeAMoment
    @JustTakeAMoment 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    A shifty answer, trying to avoid blame for the award they just made. So on the one hand you made an award to train drivers and Doctors but on the other hand took some help with winter fuel payments away.
    How about, look you train drivers are all on good money a lot more than most and well above the average salary so how about we take about 3% of your salary off you?
    So 11.5 million pensioners can't strike and lose our whilst a few people who sit on their backsides in a train cab get a whopping 15%. Then agreed after that they will still need to strike for yet more pay further on down the line. Talk about a mis-carriage of justice. How Starmer Engine-ered that. Hopefully, his government will soon run out of steam.

  • @Thegreyreaperuk
    @Thegreyreaperuk 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sunak Just can't stop lying can he.

  • @LifeTimesPolitics
    @LifeTimesPolitics  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Makes me wonder what the figure was that the Tories had?? What is the difference?

    • @morph5688
      @morph5688 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      COVID !

  • @user-dt8rg3rk9y
    @user-dt8rg3rk9y วันที่ผ่านมา

    This guy talks crap

  • @karenlee7711
    @karenlee7711 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They have caused half of this twenty two billion black hole .not all on the tories not a tory fan

    • @LifeTimesPolitics
      @LifeTimesPolitics  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That is my take on this, when keeping neutral. It doesn’t have to be them and us, but right and wrong.

  • @Tonypoolebcfc
    @Tonypoolebcfc 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sir Kier Tosser

  • @paulmoore-x7p
    @paulmoore-x7p 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You have certainly changed the country for the fucking worse

  • @DavidWilliams-y2u
    @DavidWilliams-y2u 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is starmer a German name