@@TheHistoryChap you're a biased history chap why don't you talk about all the immoral torture your horrid ancestors did to women and children you dirty biased spreader of misinformation, your lot are trash among men and you are in denial like a scumbag
Chris, I just found your channel. It is SO nice to meet someone that also takes the role of a history storyteller. Foe the last 36 years, I have attempted to do the same thing in my face-to-face and online classes at Louisiana State University at Eunice. You have the same type of personal enthusiasm that I have often been able to communicate to my own students. Long live the ancient tradition of bring the "sage on the stage!" Please keep up the good work!!!! I look forward to viewing and commenting on many more of your future videos. Your colleague in Louisiana US, Walton Sellers III
Another great episode, Chris. I've always thought that, if he'd had time to write a full length Flashman Zulu War novel, rather than the disappointing fragment we have, George MacDonald Fraser could have done a lot worse after Isandhlwana and Rorke's Drift than having Flashman (after all, an experienced cavalry officer) join Wood's Column, get embroiled in the disaster of Hlobane and be captured with Grandier. It has great potential for a fictionalisation, along the lines of the celebrated account of Flashman and Kavanagh's escape from Lucknow to guide in the relief force.
I was thinking I'd heard this story before somewhere and wondering if it was in a Flashman novel. If not maybe one of John Wilcox's Simon Fonthill books.
I can just see Flashman hiding in the rocks and being captured, and then mercilessly killing a poor benevolent guide sent to take him back to safety and calling it an 'Heroic escape' 😂😂
Chris, that was a truly intriguing story concerning obscurity! 😂😅 I think you are right. We have the prisoners' tale in one corner and the oral history of the Zulus in the other, never the twain shall meet. It kind of gives new meaning to the words of 15 minutes of fame. I think your recollection of the facts was accurate. The king's only prisoner was of no military or strategic value, so he probably did let him go. I wonder if there are any copies of the sensationalized headlines remaining somewhere in someone's closet. Another excellent job, my friend. You have a knack for bringing history to life and finding those obscure facets of history to bring them into the light. Kudos to you, amigo.
Hi Chris, I'm absolutely addicted to your history casts. I love the little snippets of obscure trivia you weave into the narratives. Keep up the great work.
I believe Grandiers story because it fits with the traditions and politics of the Zulu's - Returning a prisoner to an ally to be executed fits perfectly with that.
I can picture myself somehow rising to the occasion, defying the odds, standing up to my captors, escaping and making my way back to friendly lines, the enemy not wanting to admit their failings, and because everyone thinks me incapable of surviving such an ordeal they simply assume I'm lying - and any future mention of my alleged exploits would be met with "Yes, he was obviously lying." On the other hand, I am not French, but Texan - so at least there would be future historians who state that if I didn't do all those things I claimed, I should have have done them - because as a Texan I was perfectly capable of doing so.
😂😂😂 In your situation as a Texan, your captors would either be Comanche or Apache warriors. They would make being captured by Mexicans, the Union, or even the Zulus seem like Disneyland.
Chris, keep up the extremely interesting yarns, always a good listen. Don't do the Spinning Jenny or Stephensons Rocket as I was taught these at school, just loved that O Level curriculum.
Do you do more recent history? WWII? My grandfather was a professional boxer with the name Seaman Joe. He was captured before the second battle at Tobruk. The story goes that he escaped several times by knocking his guards out. He made it to northern Italy where he was fed by locals but eventually an informant betrayed him to the Gestapo.
So he apparently killed one guard with the Assegai but didn't have it or the rifle from the man he killed when he was found, who would leave the weapons behind in hostile country. I believe the Zulu version.
A rollicking story straight out of’ Boys Own ‘ . I love the stark contrast of Victorian military attire and attitudes , with the vast natural expanse of the South African veldt , and the powerful and unique culture of the Zulus . I have read “ The Washing of the Spears “ and visited the small museum at Rorke’s Drift , and was struck by the writing of one of the soldiers there . Instead of asking himself, what on earth am I doing here , he saw himself as a part of Her Majesties “ Imperial hammer “ , and they were going to teach these ‘ natives ‘ a lesson . The stuff of Empire ! Great talk !
Thanks for this interesting story. I was born in Durban in 1958. My great, great, great grandfather was the first mayor of Durban (GC Cato). As A child growing up in Pietermaritzburg the roads I walked along were named after the British heroes of this 1879 war (My grandparents lived in Bromhead Road. We lived in Christie Road). I visited Rourkes drift and Isandlawana battlefield in my early teens. I was interested in history. Later I became a doctor and worked in an all Zulu hospital in my hometown. We used to ask the old men whether they were alive during the Bambata rebellion (1906) in order guage hold old they were, before birth certs. Anyway, I can recall hearing that before the Battle of Ulundi, the British Soldiers were kept awake that night by the screams of the British POWs being tortured by Zulu women inside the Ulundi kraal. Perhaps I just read this in one of the books about this and should check it, perhaps in the one of the James Stuart archives. If it IS true then your man was not the only prisoner. Personally I do not think that any mercy would have been shown to Grandier had he been captured. Actually I think the story of him being sent back to the original chief to be killed seems to ring true. 15 miles of walking a day would have been possible in this terrain (more probable if he still had his boots (which is likely because of his original trek to visit Cetwayo)) Hiding from a passing Impi would have been fairly easy. Lots of dust from the passing cattle and the fact that the Zulus would have not taken dogs with them, and by all accounts followed orders carefully and were not looking out for runaway POW's. Had his escorts survived his escape I think it highly unlikely that they would have returned to Cetwayo's kraal to endure his punishment for letting their prisoner escape. Finally finding a tattered British soldier in this area during this time would be most unlikely without a reason like an escape. This area even now would not be a great place to go a walkabout fro an AWOL" jaunt." I'd say that Grandier was telling the truth. I now live in a forest in Ireland.
Hello, Chris, once again, your creative magnifying glass rescues a small detail from a massive panel. Excellent video. But frankly, Grandier was a lucky guy, wasn't he? The only white British-franch prisoner of war. And that medicinal brandy-do you know the brand? I liked the photo of Cetshwaio. He was a remarkable figure, and his calm eyes don't portray the fierce warrior he was.
@@speleokeir I have a book about Mungo Park ,a Scottish explorer who wanted to find the source of the Niger River. He carried Amber which was greatly prized by the natives. He was eventually murdered because he would not convert to Islam ,( he was a Christian and martyred for his faith) These people were nothing more than barbaric thugs.
Please correct me if I’m wrong but I remember reading in a book that on the day before the battle of Ulundi there was a lone British soldier captured in a skirmish and was brought to within a short distance of the British camp and tortured to death by Zulu women and everyone in the British camp heard it.
Really enjoyed your presentation, some suggestions for you: The Battle of Nunshigum WW2, The Battle of Roundway Down, Devizes 1643 & The American Revolution
Thank you The History Chap. I watched some of your EIC videos. Would be good to hear something about their European regiments... recruitment, training, standard/reputation, what happened on discharge etc
👍👍👍 I was in zululand - actually stayed at inyezane backpackers near ginginzhlovu(gin gin I love you 😁) .I recall there being lots of the naughty herb growing there. Do you have any knowledge of the snuff that the witch doctors gave to the warriors before battle? Allegedly it retained the hallucinogenic properties of cannabis but removed the sedative part.
Interesting, S.D., especially for that era. (I thought that there were miscegenation laws then.) If I may ask, where did they live once married? Did they stay in south Africa or return to Wales or live somewhere else?
@@flashgordon6670This was a long time ago. So it depends who married who in the interim. For instance, there was no red hair in my family til my uncle married my red headed aunt. One of their children has red hair but the other two don’t. It’s a very hit and miss situation, isn’t it?👍🏻
A great story, Chris!!! A few years back, I did the genealogy bit and found that my ancestors served in Butlers Rangers, a Loyalist unit that fought in the American Revolution. I think they had a reputation as fierce fighters. Just a suggestion for a story.
For anyone interested, there is a new show/series about Shaka and his rise that is made by the Zulu's themselves that is worth a watch, it's in isiZulu but has subtitles, show is called ''Shaka Ilembe'' and there is a trailer on TH-cam for those wanting to check out what it looks like....awesome show, worth the watch if you want to hear/see the Zulu's version of the story
Hi Chris, how about Madagascar when Flashman was "enslaved" by Queen Ranavalona for a future episode, obviously not the Flashman episode exactly but the whole story of her reign and despotism?
What got me was if he had been stripped naked upon capture how was it that he was wearing his uniform when found....?. Cheers M8, another excellent show.
A great story, our frenchy friend being less than honest, nothing new there lol. The Zulu king was definitely very generous, he could have just as easily had him killed, either way he lived to tell the tale. Thanks again for mining more historical nuggets.
Do a show about von Lettow-voorbeck, Scutztruppe commander German East Africa. He made blacks officers, and all got the same medical help. A week after the Armistice, he was still fighting with 120 whites, 1000 Askari, and 3,000 camp followers. Holding down 250,000 British troops!...in 1954, he came back and my Father there - his old Askaris CLICKED their heels with BARE feet, and carried him off on their shoulders. They loved him, and he loved them.
@@williamcreighton1417 The man was a Prince! Had the house next door to my school - built in Germany, no nails, pegs; taken apart and rebuilt with small lake in front mit bar on island! Usambaras - "Perpetual Spring." Took the 105mm quick firers off the SMS Konigsberg and made gun carriages at the railway workshop. Of 165 crew, only 15 survived..... His Askaris loved him; every day after the fighting, he would visit his wounded...."Its OK, Bwana, I can still fight..." said a 1 armed man. Here, white and black were ONE! Way back then, too.
I lived next door to his property, now called "Maweni farm". The house was built in Gernany with no nails, just pegs; shipped to Tanga then rail to Mombo and carreied po the escarpment. It now has a small lake with ISLAND/bar!
Curious that what became of him is unknown given the civic records that exist for the Victorian era, fine looking fellow wasn't he. Interesting lecture, well written, illustrated & presented, thx
One overlooked note. If I were to have killed the guard with the gun forcing the other to flee rest assured that I would have SURELY kept the gun and ammo along with their food. Did he have it when rescued? Also, the guard that fled only had a short distance to run back BUT perhaps he was afraid of the King knowing that he allowed himself to be disarmed which led to the death of his comrade so he delayed his return to fabricate a different story.
Little known story, or rather VERY UNKNOWN story, INDEED, Chris old bean (I'm back home in the UK btw, back to work at my work job of Royal Mail today, and certainly you've updated in record fast time yet again to give me something to end this first day back home and the recommencement of my normal life on a satisfactory note, haha), as once again we've had to rely on YOU to give us it all, and one that's certainly filled with a lotta mystery and twists as to just HOW true it could all be, given that there's certainly absolutely NO records of Ernest Grandier whatsoever following on from this extremely intriguing story about him during the 1879 Zulu campaign, as I've just looked online and there's no factual pages on him that I could see, not even a Wikipedia one. So who knows who was telling the truth, Grandier himself, or the Zulus. And as to what I've love for you to cover in future, well, I do of course await and am prepared for when you do the next great update of the First Anglo-Sikh War, but PLEASE GET A MOVE ON with doing the Battle of Sedgemoor, hahaha, I've been good naturedly impatiently waiting waiting waiting hoping hoping hoping THAT from you, our British military history TH-cam superstar, ever since last year, so I'd really really love and appreciate an ACTUAL result from ya very soon now if ya don't mind, dear old chap
Truly an interesting story. But what is the truth? In my opinion, but obviously is only an hypothesis, Grandier embellished a basically true event. In any case, thanks a lot, Chris!
Again! Another terrific story! How about Sir Henry Morgan? Some say (professor Ronald Hutton, Bristol Uni) whom I believe was middle english history at the time, thought Morgan the finest commander of both land and sea the Britain has ever produced. and deserved a revision of history! Welshman, of course! Extraordinary life (don't believe everything Exquemelin writes). 30 years since I researched Henry, but not all is forgotten! There's so much it might just be episodic! Cheers. Mike Drew
He was entitled to believe he was a prisoner, so he is entitled to believe he escaped. My big question is did the Zulus give him back his clothes or was he discovered completely naked?
Was that the same Colenso who was in New Zealand? One of my Ancestors who fought in one of the Franco Russian wars and had gone to live ib Australia . The british Army,s General Cameron , was about to raise a force to fight a group of Maori tribes and had gone to Melbourne Australia to source volenteers . My ancestor joined up and in 1863 fought in a few of the skirmishes. His payment was a section of land on the edge of Colensos large block,at Pakaraka,south of today's Auckland .
Great to learn this, i would really love to hear more about the zulu wars, also the British in Ireland, not the brit bashing of modern times but, like this, the WHOLE truth,warts and all, please.
Thank you Chris for bringing this part of history to life and providing us with a most interesting story! Many thanks for posting!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
This is an amazing story. Glad to see you cover more of the Anglo-Zulu War.
One of my passions.
RIGHT ON!
I'm a Anglo-Zulu War fanatic and I've never heard this story before. Great stuff!
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@@TheHistoryChap you're a biased history chap why don't you talk about all the immoral torture your horrid ancestors did to women and children you dirty biased spreader of misinformation, your lot are trash among men and you are in denial like a scumbag
It’s so very refreshing to enjoy a real history channel by a real human. Superb storytelling and images. I am in.
Yes, I too have seen the AI narrated channels.
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Chris, I just found your channel. It is SO nice to meet someone that also takes the role of a history storyteller. Foe the last 36 years, I have attempted to do the same thing in my face-to-face and online classes at Louisiana State University at Eunice. You have the same type of personal enthusiasm that I have often been able to communicate to my own students. Long live the ancient tradition of bring the "sage on the stage!" Please keep up the good work!!!! I look forward to viewing and commenting on many more of your future videos.
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Y'all are both dirtbags who fantasize about inbred satanic pedophile royal sodomite armies
The anglo-zulu war is my favorite to learn about. This was very interesting.!
I had actually never heard of this story nor the Cetsoswayo book. Thank you for sharing, subscribed.
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Thank you for presenting as you do. Much appreciated. It is good chaps like yourself who help keep history alive. Cheers!
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This is my favorite subject from your channel, very interesting as usual! Greetings from East Tennessee! 🤠
Another great episode, Chris. I've always thought that, if he'd had time to write a full length Flashman Zulu War novel, rather than the disappointing fragment we have, George MacDonald Fraser could have done a lot worse after Isandhlwana and Rorke's Drift than having Flashman (after all, an experienced cavalry officer) join Wood's Column, get embroiled in the disaster of Hlobane and be captured with Grandier. It has great potential for a fictionalisation, along the lines of the celebrated account of Flashman and Kavanagh's escape from Lucknow to guide in the relief force.
I was thinking I'd heard this story before somewhere and wondering if it was in a Flashman novel. If not maybe one of John Wilcox's Simon Fonthill books.
I can just see Flashman hiding in the rocks and being captured, and then mercilessly killing a poor benevolent guide sent to take him back to safety and calling it an 'Heroic escape' 😂😂
@@caeserromero3013 Yep that is Flashman. Dying of anxiety but ending up as a hero.
All true of course.
Another great story thanks Chris.
Story being the important word
Chris, that was a truly intriguing story concerning obscurity! 😂😅 I think you are right. We have the prisoners' tale in one corner and the oral history of the Zulus in the other, never the twain shall meet. It kind of gives new meaning to the words of 15 minutes of fame. I think your recollection of the facts was accurate. The king's only prisoner was of no military or strategic value, so he probably did let him go. I wonder if there are any copies of the sensationalized headlines remaining somewhere in someone's closet. Another excellent job, my friend. You have a knack for bringing history to life and finding those obscure facets of history to bring them into the light. Kudos to you, amigo.
Harry, thank you for your kind words.
A competent narration of a little-known aspect of British military history. Thanks for posting.
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What a very interesting and different story - thank you for sharing Chris
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Once again thanks so much for this
The main hole i noticed in his story was he said he was stripped naked but was then found still wearing his uniform.
Well, he was waring part of the uniform. The trousers were infantry. However, that only tells me that he lost some of his clothing, not much else.
I think t made better 'copy' to say, in those staid Victorian times, that he was 'stripped naked'. Hilarious!!
Great point.
Noticed that right away too.
@@spikeyflohardly hilarious!
As always you have given us an interesting and to me, a previously unknown tale, Chris. Thanks.
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Great job at bringing to the viewers hitherto unknown/unreported historical events.
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Brilliant story, thanks for that and stay well.
As an Englishman, I'd take the word of a Zulu, over that of a Frenchman, any day.
you toke the word's from my mouth
@@peterbrown862Every French baby born is wrapped in a white flag for a reason 😂
In France they think the same about Englishmen...
@@paddyseamair6336good moaning. 👮♂️im an Englishman and I'm not really against people being French like
Come live in Africa before making remarks like that!
Straight off the back of the live!
I've been itching to watch this but had to wait 😂
Your voice and descriptions paint such a vivid picture, thank you so much for this time travel experience :))
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Great post, thank you.
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Hi Chris, I'm absolutely addicted to your history casts. I love the little snippets of obscure trivia you weave into the narratives. Keep up the great work.
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I believe Grandiers story because it fits with the traditions and politics of the Zulu's - Returning a prisoner to an ally to be executed fits perfectly with that.
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I can picture myself somehow rising to the occasion, defying the odds, standing up to my captors, escaping and making my way back to friendly lines, the enemy not wanting to admit their failings, and because everyone thinks me incapable of surviving such an ordeal they simply assume I'm lying - and any future mention of my alleged exploits would be met with "Yes, he was obviously lying."
On the other hand, I am not French, but Texan - so at least there would be future historians who state that if I didn't do all those things I claimed, I should have have done them - because as a Texan I was perfectly capable of doing so.
Great comment!
😂😂😂 In your situation as a Texan, your captors would either be Comanche or Apache warriors. They would make being captured by Mexicans, the Union, or even the Zulus seem like Disneyland.
@@dannyhernandez1212 oooh, very true!
Xenophobic comment , and I bet you don’t know it.
@@dianeshelton9592 - Feel free to try to explain. I'm always open to new ideas.
Chris, keep up the extremely interesting yarns, always a good listen. Don't do the Spinning Jenny or Stephensons Rocket as I was taught these at school, just loved that O Level curriculum.
wow im intrigued thanks for the upload!
Hope you enjoyed it.
Do you do more recent history? WWII? My grandfather was a professional boxer with the name Seaman Joe. He was captured before the second battle at Tobruk. The story goes that he escaped several times by knocking his guards out. He made it to northern Italy where he was fed by locals but eventually an informant betrayed him to the Gestapo.
Just found this story and really enjoyed it. Thank you.
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Excellent Chris what a story
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So he apparently killed one guard with the Assegai but didn't have it or the rifle from the man he killed when he was found, who would leave the weapons behind in hostile country. I believe the Zulu version.
Thanks for the feedback.
Les francais, eh?
Less weight to be carried for a long walk
@@rick149ou As I said in hostile country and have no way of defending himself, think about it.
Even to defend against wild Animals, you wouldn’t leave a rifle behind 😅
A rollicking story straight out of’ Boys Own ‘ . I love the stark contrast of Victorian military attire and attitudes , with the vast natural expanse of the South African veldt , and the powerful and unique culture of the Zulus . I have read “ The Washing of the Spears “ and visited the small museum at Rorke’s Drift , and was struck by the writing of one of the soldiers there . Instead of asking himself, what on earth am I doing here , he saw himself as a part of Her Majesties “ Imperial hammer “ , and they were going to teach these ‘ natives ‘ a lesson . The stuff of Empire ! Great talk !
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“Her Majesty’s Imperial Hammer…”
Thanks for this interesting story. I was born in Durban in 1958. My great, great, great grandfather was the first mayor of Durban (GC Cato).
As A child growing up in Pietermaritzburg the roads I walked along were named after the British heroes of this 1879 war (My grandparents lived in Bromhead Road. We lived in Christie Road). I visited Rourkes drift and Isandlawana battlefield in my early teens. I was interested in history. Later I became a doctor and worked in an all Zulu hospital in my hometown. We used to ask the old men whether they were alive during the Bambata rebellion (1906) in order guage hold old they were, before birth certs. Anyway, I can recall hearing that before the Battle of Ulundi, the British Soldiers were kept awake that night by the screams of the British POWs being tortured by Zulu women inside the Ulundi kraal. Perhaps I just read this in one of the books about this and should check it, perhaps in the one of the James Stuart archives. If it IS true then your man was not the only prisoner. Personally I do not think that any mercy would have been shown to Grandier had he been captured. Actually I think the story of him being sent back to the original chief to be killed seems to ring true. 15 miles of walking a day would have been possible in this terrain (more probable if he still had his boots (which is likely because of his original trek to visit Cetwayo))
Hiding from a passing Impi would have been fairly easy. Lots of dust from the passing cattle and the fact that the Zulus would have not taken dogs with them, and by all accounts followed orders carefully and were not looking out for runaway POW's. Had his escorts survived his escape I think it highly unlikely that they would have returned to Cetwayo's kraal to endure his punishment for letting their prisoner escape. Finally finding a tattered British soldier in this area during this time would be most unlikely without a reason like an escape. This area even now would not be a great place to go a walkabout fro an AWOL" jaunt." I'd say that Grandier was telling the truth. I now live in a forest in Ireland.
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Hello, Chris, once again, your creative magnifying glass rescues a small detail from a massive panel. Excellent video. But frankly, Grandier was a lucky guy, wasn't he? The only white British-franch prisoner of war. And that medicinal brandy-do you know the brand? I liked the photo of Cetshwaio. He was a remarkable figure, and his calm eyes don't portray the fierce warrior he was.
Seemingly " false valour" has historic roots. Fascinating story indeed. Thank you.
Chuckling. Thanks for posting.
Funny you should be covering a Zulu story Chris, because I watched both Zulu and Zulu Dawn yesterday 😅
Tomorrow is Sunday. Maybe I should watch these great films
Great work, thank you for sharing.
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10/10. Good stuff. Thank you Chris.
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The legend of Stanley's expedition to find Livingston is well known ... but what really happened?
I'd also love to hear love to hear more about other explorer's like Mungo Park's expedition along the Niger river.
@@speleokeir I have a book about Mungo Park ,a Scottish explorer who wanted to find the source of the Niger River. He carried Amber which was greatly prized by the natives. He was eventually murdered because he would not convert to Islam ,( he was a Christian and martyred for his faith) These people were nothing more than barbaric thugs.
Hi Chris, what I'd really look forward to is the story of Harry Flashman, of Tom Browns Schooldays infamy
Please correct me if I’m wrong but I remember reading in a book that on the day before the battle of Ulundi there was a lone British soldier captured in a skirmish and was brought to within a short distance of the British camp and tortured to death by Zulu women and everyone in the British camp heard it.
Yes I think his name was rubennaimer
Even native American women would torture settler captives. I didn't know women could be so brutal.
Merci pour cette interessante histoire, racontée avec talent et précision. Je suis impatient de visionner vos autres productions.
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Really enjoyed your presentation, some suggestions for you: The Battle of Nunshigum WW2, The Battle of Roundway Down, Devizes 1643 & The American Revolution
Thank you very much for your work, it is very interesting
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Enlightening and interesting. Thank you.
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He was a French man when all said and done. Great story well told thank you.😇
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Very Interesting post, thank you.
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Fanciful though it is, i'd like you to give us a rundown on all of flashman's battels in their historical context.
Thank you for this. Very interesting.
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Hi ya chris 👍🏼
Great video thanks. Always a treat to hear references to Buller - a distant relative of mine (my paternal grandmother was a Buller)
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Thank you The History Chap. I watched some of your EIC videos. Would be good to hear something about their European regiments... recruitment, training, standard/reputation, what happened on discharge etc
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Thanks for this, never heard of this chap Grandier but from what we hear in this video possibly not surprising. Well done on this tale in any case.
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👍👍👍 I was in zululand - actually stayed at inyezane backpackers near ginginzhlovu(gin gin I love you 😁) .I recall there being lots of the naughty herb growing there. Do you have any knowledge of the snuff that the witch doctors gave to the warriors before battle? Allegedly it retained the hallucinogenic properties of cannabis but removed the sedative part.
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Good story and a nice wrap up at the end. Two people can completely disagree and both be right.
My great great grandfather fought in the zulu war and married a zulu woman my great great grandmother he was white from Wales
Interesting, S.D., especially for that era. (I thought that there were miscegenation laws then.) If I may ask, where did they live once married? Did they stay in south Africa or return to Wales or live somewhere else?
@jonny-d5v after a few years moved to Wales, their son served in ww1 and moved to Canada after the war
Interesting family history 👍
Really, what colour are you then?
@@flashgordon6670This was a long time ago. So it depends who married who in the interim. For instance, there was no red hair in my family til my uncle married my red headed aunt. One of their children has red hair but the other two don’t. It’s a very hit and miss situation, isn’t it?👍🏻
A great story, Chris!!! A few years back, I did the genealogy bit and found that my ancestors served in Butlers Rangers, a Loyalist unit that fought in the American Revolution. I think they had a reputation as fierce fighters. Just a suggestion for a story.
There is a brilliamt channel called redcoat history and gad a episode which covers that subject.
For anyone interested, there is a new show/series about Shaka and his rise that is made by the Zulu's themselves that is worth a watch, it's in isiZulu but has subtitles, show is called ''Shaka Ilembe'' and there is a trailer on TH-cam for those wanting to check out what it looks like....awesome show, worth the watch if you want to hear/see the Zulu's version of the story
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I read a book written by Ritter /Shaka .
Hi Chris, how about Madagascar when Flashman was "enslaved" by Queen Ranavalona for a future episode, obviously not the Flashman episode exactly but the whole story of her reign and despotism?
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Great story sir!
Have you done a piece on Major Allison Warter, the crazy para from Arnhem?
Ge was given 'Early Release'.
You knew that was coming...
i kinda envy young(er) ppl, that are just learning such history for the first time 🤓
thx again, Chris.
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Hello Chris, I love you channel, can you do more stories of Victoria Cross recipients please, all the best, Lee.
Thanks Julie. I have some more on the way.
What got me was if he had been stripped naked upon capture how was it that he was wearing his uniform when found....?. Cheers M8, another excellent show.
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I'm confused. @1:12 do you say "In his late 20s, Grandier was born in Bordeaux, where he'd been a stone cutter"?
Born in the late 20's
In his late 20s, meaning late 20s at the time of the Zulu wars. He was born in Bordeaux France 🇫🇷
A great story, our frenchy friend being less than honest, nothing new there lol. The Zulu king was definitely very generous, he could have just as easily had him killed, either way he lived to tell the tale. Thanks again for mining more historical nuggets.
Yet another brilliant story from Chris. Note to self, must read some Flashman!
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Very nice telling.
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Fascinating 😊
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Very interesting, thank you.
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Would always trust a Zulu over a frenchie .😂😂. Great history again, Chris. Thankyou
Great story, Chris. makes you wonder why there weren't any prisoners taken at isandlewana, especially the officers 🤔
Good question. I guess the Zulus had a "red mist" moment.
Do a show about von Lettow-voorbeck, Scutztruppe commander German East Africa. He made blacks officers, and all got the same medical help. A week after the Armistice, he was still fighting with 120 whites, 1000 Askari, and 3,000 camp followers. Holding down 250,000 British troops!...in 1954, he came back and my Father there - his old Askaris CLICKED their heels with BARE feet, and carried him off on their shoulders. They loved him, and he loved them.
Would love to hear more about von lettow vorbeck. A classic rearguard action diagonally across tanganyika still taught in military schools today.
@@williamcreighton1417 The man was a Prince! Had the house next door to my school - built in Germany, no nails, pegs; taken apart and rebuilt with small lake in front mit bar on island! Usambaras - "Perpetual Spring."
Took the 105mm quick firers off the SMS Konigsberg and made gun carriages at the railway workshop. Of 165 crew, only 15 survived..... His Askaris loved him; every day after the fighting, he would visit his wounded...."Its OK, Bwana, I can still fight..." said a 1 armed man. Here, white and black were ONE! Way back then, too.
I lived next door to his property, now called "Maweni farm". The house was built in Gernany with no nails, just pegs; shipped to Tanga then rail to Mombo and carreied po the escarpment. It now has a small lake with ISLAND/bar!
Curious that what became of him is unknown given the civic records that exist for the Victorian era, fine looking fellow wasn't he. Interesting lecture, well written, illustrated & presented, thx
Nice story: the right stuff for the press always!
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One overlooked note. If I were to have killed the guard with the gun forcing the other to flee rest assured that I would have SURELY kept the gun and ammo along with their food. Did he have it when rescued? Also, the guard that fled only had a short distance to run back BUT perhaps he was afraid of the King knowing that he allowed himself to be disarmed which led to the death of his comrade so he delayed his return to fabricate a different story.
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Yeah and then he single handedly defeated the entire Zulu army that’s how the war was won.
And I’m the Dali Lama.
Little known story, or rather VERY UNKNOWN story, INDEED, Chris old bean (I'm back home in the UK btw, back to work at my work job of Royal Mail today, and certainly you've updated in record fast time yet again to give me something to end this first day back home and the recommencement of my normal life on a satisfactory note, haha), as once again we've had to rely on YOU to give us it all, and one that's certainly filled with a lotta mystery and twists as to just HOW true it could all be, given that there's certainly absolutely NO records of Ernest Grandier whatsoever following on from this extremely intriguing story about him during the 1879 Zulu campaign, as I've just looked online and there's no factual pages on him that I could see, not even a Wikipedia one. So who knows who was telling the truth, Grandier himself, or the Zulus.
And as to what I've love for you to cover in future, well, I do of course await and am prepared for when you do the next great update of the First Anglo-Sikh War, but PLEASE GET A MOVE ON with doing the Battle of Sedgemoor, hahaha, I've been good naturedly impatiently waiting waiting waiting hoping hoping hoping THAT from you, our British military history TH-cam superstar, ever since last year, so I'd really really love and appreciate an ACTUAL result from ya very soon now if ya don't mind, dear old chap
Can you do video on the charge of the light bridge
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Like your TH-cam handle name.
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Great story Chris. I hadn’t heard this one before so thanks again. Definitely something not quite right with the story!
Truly an interesting story. But what is the truth? In my opinion, but obviously is only an hypothesis, Grandier embellished a basically true event. In any case, thanks a lot, Chris!
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Like watching jackanory from years ago😇 great content and mole hill to mountain comes to mind on this tale, thank you 🫡
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Again! Another terrific story! How about Sir Henry Morgan? Some say (professor Ronald Hutton, Bristol Uni) whom I believe was middle english history at the time, thought Morgan the finest commander of both land and sea the Britain has ever produced. and deserved a revision of history! Welshman, of course! Extraordinary life (don't believe everything Exquemelin writes). 30 years since I researched Henry, but not all is forgotten! There's so much it might just be episodic! Cheers. Mike Drew
Great story! Have you covered the War of Jenkins Ear yet?
here you go:th-cam.com/video/Eiswo8ILx1g/w-d-xo.html
Another very interesting story Chris , but I think I believe the Zulus
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I like the history stories you make them
So really. Thank you
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Have you done the story of Kimball Bent (24 August 1837 - 22 May 1916),
Good video and story as always! I know I believe the Zulu’s accounts over a lying coward
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Your picture of Cetshwayo is actually nDabuko, his half brother.
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Intriguing and interesting😊
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He was entitled to believe he was a prisoner, so he is entitled to believe he escaped. My big question is did the Zulus give him back his clothes or was he discovered completely naked?
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Was that the same Colenso who was in New Zealand? One of my Ancestors who fought in one of the Franco Russian wars and had gone to live ib Australia . The british Army,s General Cameron , was about to raise a force to fight a group of Maori tribes and had gone to Melbourne Australia to source volenteers . My ancestor joined up and in 1863 fought in a few of the skirmishes. His payment was a section of land on the edge of Colensos large block,at Pakaraka,south of today's Auckland .
A story well told, thanks. If it had been me, perhaps I would have concocted an heroic story & why not?
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Great to learn this, i would really love to hear more about the zulu wars, also the British in Ireland, not the brit bashing of modern times but, like this, the WHOLE truth,warts and all, please.
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I'd believe the Zulu any day, as he has nothing to gain. Plus I think they were an honourable people.