cool video, but I think the only advantage you have on loose ground like mud, sand or snow where otherwise the normal axle would brake. The portals increase the center of gravity and you tilt more easily. That the stones fit all under the pumpkin can also be made with riding technique. The original Unimog is also intended for muddy fields and woods. if it gets too steep, the one with the highest center of gravity tilts first, unless you're too narrow.
Nice overview and testing! They look much better than big pumpkins and seem to perform well. I wonder if they might just change to these on upcoming trucks.
I really really want to get a crawler now. Can you get super grippy form fitting tires so they don’t just spin out and actually grab like real tires with low air pressure do?
Yes you sure can, in fact with 2-Stage foams you can go further than you can with real trucks. The outside tread can be soft and conformal and the sidewalls can be stiff to prevent tire roll. One thing about these scale trucks is even the brushed ones have at least 1000 scale horsepower and brushless is way way higher so they can and will spin any tire you can put on it.
Nice vid! Great job on close ups of what we want to see. I like the looks of the axles, but I would like to see a bit more material on the axle tubes and especially on the lower shock mounts. Did it look like the brass beef tubes would still fit? I have some in my stock Gen7 axles.
Yeah, so far they’ve held up great, just put brushless power through them and they took it. Castle 5700kv on 3S. Redcat is working on metal parts for these including brass. Some parts do look a bit weak but they have not broken yet.
Yeah I’d prefer a rib on one side of the gear to tie in the teeth and better material. A good tool grade steel would probably be enough to take lots of abuse using the current tooth profile design.
I went 20 mm wide after installing my portal upgrades 2.2 tires I call it monster crawler continuing to upgrade. Give me a month I can’t wait to show you guys what One can do with this
They look good and I love how they Gear down the wheel speed. Can you show them next to a set of SCX10 ll axles so I can get a scale of how big or small they are next to somthing that I have? Thanks.
I was just fooling around. At this point the front had the new portal axle in there at about 6.18-1 and the rear was still stock at just under 3-1. This was just to see how it would react.
going to be a whole lot easier to mount up than what I did, MST MPA's, should be cheaper to do as well. Didn't have the speed cut like that though. I like to crawl so not such a big deal and can always gear change the pinion/spur and use 3s if you want more stock speed. How was the steering affected? All in all, I say it is a good move for Redcat.
Steering was awesome compared to the stock one. Yeah my next drive is tomorrow with 22/44 gearing so let’s hope they live through that. Also yeah they did a great job on retrofitting these into an existing truck without jacking it up. The reduction in the portals is what makes them good, if the mst have no portal reduction then I doubt they will ever be in any of my trucks.
just rechecked, nope.. no gear reduction in the MST. I did re pinion it down though. I run 8 cell NiMH 5000mah for the extra weight up front, the additional voltage made it rollover too much if doing high speed turns so I pinioned down to 12t.
sorry, no.. I re pinioned the motor to 12t. I was concerned as well about the top gear in the Redcat, see someone did break it. If some brass portal covers come out and C hubs, definitely see this as the better option than using MST MPA's. Also have to go to a shorter shock with the MST's, the lower shock mount is on top of the axle. Still its not a modification I regret doing.
They are high steer by design. I saw a guy selling a lightly used set with the upgrade portal gears for $75 in a Gen7 group on Facebook. Not sure if it’s still up
After seeing how strong the TRX4 axles are , everyone is going to compare the Redcat to them. But I really like the direction Redcat is going....they are definitely bringing their A-Game. Great review and test. When are you going to test the unsensored Kratos Six? Tom was thinking about sending me one not too long ago and must have thought against it.
Another great video..Just wondering like you said about the main drive gear strength in a portal setup?? More parts to break?? also the C-Hub is it part of the portal housing?? I went with Aluminum SCX10 Axles for my Gen 7 Sport..they are much better than stock.. Having Fun RCing ✌️ 😎👍
I thought about SCX10's but instead put in brass beef tubes, SCX10 aluminum C-hubs (elongated the mounting hole on the C-hub to work), and redcat high clearance steering kit. I could get a full 50 degree turning but the tires rub the spring on the shock. I dialed back servo for 43-44ish. Much better than stock, stronger, and nice weight down low. I was thinking about the TRX4 sport axles then these got announced. I am very pleased with my redcat products and would like to support the company (2 Gen7 pros and Everst 16 for scale ATV build).
I know this is an old video but does anyone know if anyone makes the portal axles for the gen 7 that are actually available and good quality? Every where i have looked they either are on back order or the ones that are available are very bad quality.
Hmm. I wonder if anyone has tried using the portal part to build a custom marlin crawler style gearing off a transfer case? Would it work, could it work.
Always nice to see company’s trying to improve or keep up with the game.. But by the time you buy a gen7 and these axles your almost at a sport trx4.. That in which I’d pick trx4 over this set up. On shelf parts everywhere better turn radius fast speed possible with the portal axles.
Hey bud I got a email from redcat after their release info on their axles. they said the price the price is at $1000 because items not for sale yet still in testing stages and not sure what final price of axles are going to be..
I hope they WORK!!! 👍👍 Good, thorough assembly Video. These were definitely Designed more for Scalers and Crawlers, than Bashers.... Speed wasn't the main concern. I'd recommend staying with the Stock Axles if anyone needs Speed. For hardcore Crawlers, the reduction at the Axle (less Axle twist that way), are a Godsend!! Cain't wait to get mine... but there's at least one thing that needs addressing with the "Beta" Axles. The Panhard Mount makes it nearly impossible to get the right front Shock on. I do believe that Redcat will fix that, and maybe even larger Bearings and machined gears in the Portals.
And I didn’t get notification why? Lol YT u suck! Now back to these portals. Great video brotha! So r these things still listed for $1k? Typo or what’s going on with the price? I love the end,dudes blasting his with boulders 😂
LoL they are listed for $1k but these are the beta axles and with the discount code they end up being $70 shipped. Yeah Mark was trying to “knock it over” LoL.
Slop in the driveline makes it look like that, the rear has tighter tolerances due to less moving parts so it is usually first to pull in either direction.
Great video on the RedCat portal axles. Thank you for sharing.
Awesome video always great comparison you do such a great job demonstrating the Different parts
cool video, but I think the only advantage you have on loose ground like mud, sand or snow where otherwise the normal axle would brake. The portals increase the center of gravity and you tilt more easily. That the stones fit all under the pumpkin can also be made with riding technique. The original Unimog is also intended for muddy fields and woods. if it gets too steep, the one with the highest center of gravity tilts first, unless you're too narrow.
Very true. That’s why we like brass portal boxes and rumor has it.....these will have that option soon. So stay tuned.
love the gen 7 and gen 8 but im from the uk and the models and parts are not easy to come by
Nice overview and testing! They look much better than big pumpkins and seem to perform well. I wonder if they might just change to these on upcoming trucks.
the rumor is these will come on the Gen8, but thats just a rumor. I'd buy ANOTHER one if they did LOL
I think I would too!
I really really want to get a crawler now. Can you get super grippy form fitting tires so they don’t just spin out and actually grab like real tires with low air pressure do?
Yes you sure can, in fact with 2-Stage foams you can go further than you can with real trucks. The outside tread can be soft and conformal and the sidewalls can be stiff to prevent tire roll. One thing about these scale trucks is even the brushed ones have at least 1000 scale horsepower and brushless is way way higher so they can and will spin any tire you can put on it.
Nice vid! Great job on close ups of what we want to see. I like the looks of the axles, but I would like to see a bit more material on the axle tubes and especially on the lower shock mounts. Did it look like the brass beef tubes would still fit? I have some in my stock Gen7 axles.
Yeah, so far they’ve held up great, just put brushless power through them and they took it. Castle 5700kv on 3S. Redcat is working on metal parts for these including brass. Some parts do look a bit weak but they have not broken yet.
Love those axles iv got to get a set for mine when they become available
When they produce them for open sales yeah they will be even better.
Is it right if you change the gear in the trans & slipper the speed will go back to the same
You have to get the small spur and big pinion
Awesome video bro! Great things are coming along well for the Gen 8!
Happy New Year bro!
Happy New Years to you too bud and I can’t wait to get my hands on the Gen8
It's looking awesome !
Are these available to the general public? link to buy?
I broke that top gear already and have been in contact with them on fixed for it.
Yeah I spoke with the redcat guy yesterday and they are working on an upgraded gear. Sent them a link to this video so maybe they’ll chat with us.
Exocaged RC. I suggested a stainless steel gear or to change it to a finer pitch(shallower tooth root) so there can be more meat where the axle is.
Yeah I’d prefer a rib on one side of the gear to tie in the teeth and better material. A good tool grade steel would probably be enough to take lots of abuse using the current tooth profile design.
😃👍they look awesome!
Shen RC awesome, but not BEAUTY Steve? Lol
ok, you have me sold on the portals (kind of) now what is the model?
I went 20 mm wide after installing my portal upgrades 2.2 tires I call it monster crawler continuing to upgrade. Give me a month I can’t wait to show you guys what One can do with this
They look good and I love how they Gear down the wheel speed. Can you show them next to a set of SCX10 ll axles so I can get a scale of how big or small they are next to somthing that I have? Thanks.
Sure I can do that.
Thats cool of you ! 1 Just for doing that for me and 2 For getting back you me so fast! Nice. Do you know how much they might be when the come out?
Honestly I don't know but I hope they don't go any higher than $100 for the set.
Me 2 LOL
As long as they dont with cheaper gears. Looks built well. Time will tell.
Is the turning better with the portals
Man at 4:14 look at the rollout, it appears that the overdrive is backwards. You should switch the diff gears front to rear, I could be nutz
That's also why when you went in reverse it acted like it was digging but the wrong way
I was just fooling around. At this point the front had the new portal axle in there at about 6.18-1 and the rear was still stock at just under 3-1. This was just to see how it would react.
@@ExocagedRC oh well that clears everything up, hahahaha, wish I had some extra cheddar I would put those on my e10
So far they are good axles, I recently put on the aluminum knuckles and stuff and like that way better
going to be a whole lot easier to mount up than what I did, MST MPA's, should be cheaper to do as well. Didn't have the speed cut like that though.
I like to crawl so not such a big deal and can always gear change the pinion/spur and use 3s if you want more stock speed.
How was the steering affected?
All in all, I say it is a good move for Redcat.
Steering was awesome compared to the stock one. Yeah my next drive is tomorrow with 22/44 gearing so let’s hope they live through that. Also yeah they did a great job on retrofitting these into an existing truck without jacking it up. The reduction in the portals is what makes them good, if the mst have no portal reduction then I doubt they will ever be in any of my trucks.
just rechecked, nope.. no gear reduction in the MST. I did re pinion it down though. I run 8 cell NiMH 5000mah for the extra weight up front, the additional voltage made it rollover too much if doing high speed turns so I pinioned down to 12t.
you can change the pinion in the axle?
sorry, no.. I re pinioned the motor to 12t.
I was concerned as well about the top gear in the Redcat, see someone did break it.
If some brass portal covers come out and C hubs, definitely see this as the better option than using MST MPA's. Also have to go to a shorter shock with the MST's, the lower shock mount is on top of the axle.
Still its not a modification I regret doing.
They dont come pre built?
They may come built now, when I got these they were for beta testers so they were not assembled
Thanks for doing the side-by-side test that was really nice maybe you could tell them to send me a set of axles
I had to get on a beta testing list to get these, from what I hear the production units should be available by Christmas.
Does the high steer kit work with portal axles? I'm still waiting for the portal axles to be in stock January 2019.
They are high steer by design. I saw a guy selling a lightly used set with the upgrade portal gears for $75 in a Gen7 group on Facebook. Not sure if it’s still up
are this axles differential locked ?
yes
After seeing how strong the TRX4 axles are , everyone is going to compare the Redcat to them.
But I really like the direction Redcat is going....they are definitely bringing their A-Game.
Great review and test.
When are you going to test the unsensored Kratos Six?
Tom was thinking about sending me one not too long ago and must have thought against it.
yeah the trx axles are built better and way stronger but these would be totally awesome in a C1 truck. Tom has an unsensored Kratos 6 motor?
@@ExocagedRC Maybe he mean Acis 6
I think the weather here is good.
Korea is too cold to pay the car.
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Another great video..Just wondering like you said about the main drive gear strength in a portal setup?? More parts to break?? also the C-Hub is it part of the portal housing?? I went with Aluminum SCX10 Axles for my Gen 7 Sport..they are much better than stock.. Having Fun RCing ✌️ 😎👍
Thank you, The chubs are bolted on with 3 screws, redcat is already working on a new top gear.
I thought about SCX10's but instead put in brass beef tubes, SCX10 aluminum C-hubs (elongated the mounting hole on the C-hub to work), and redcat high clearance steering kit. I could get a full 50 degree turning but the tires rub the spring on the shock. I dialed back servo for 43-44ish. Much better than stock, stronger, and nice weight down low. I was thinking about the TRX4 sport axles then these got announced. I am very pleased with my redcat products and would like to support the company (2 Gen7 pros and Everst 16 for scale ATV build).
These available to the public?
Yep. They have been for awhile
I love my portals. 🎁
What company makes the axles
Redcat
I know this is an old video but does anyone know if anyone makes the portal axles for the gen 7 that are actually available and good quality? Every where i have looked they either are on back order or the ones that are available are very bad quality.
Are u looking still? They are everywhere now
of the portal axle kit
That’s Redcat Gen8 portals on there
@@ExocagedRC thanks
maybe in the future the gen7 will come with portals. Either way i want a set or 2 if they prove to hold up. Great job 👍
Yeah and so far the only portals they have out are the beta axles. Out here for us to test in the real world of RC.
Hmm. I wonder if anyone has tried using the portal part to build a custom marlin crawler style gearing off a transfer case? Would it work, could it work.
I’m sure that could be done with a little imagination.
Do you prefer redcat portals of other portals?
Michael Winegar I build with TRX portals but really like the new Capra portals too
@@ExocagedRC do the TRX axles for the Gen7?
Great video no music
thank you
What was the price?
Always nice to see company’s trying to improve or keep up with the game.. But by the time you buy a gen7 and these axles your almost at a sport trx4.. That in which I’d pick trx4 over this set up. On shelf parts everywhere better turn radius fast speed possible with the portal axles.
Very true. The rumor is then Gen 8 will come with these axles. Rumors aren’t always true but I have my hopes up.
ThatsMyRc yo Ron did they fix the price the redcat site did say $1,000 last I seen, lol
Hey bud I got a email from redcat after their release info on their axles. they said the price the price is at $1000 because items not for sale yet still in testing stages and not sure what final price of axles are going to be..
ThatsMyRc oh ok thanks Ron
Has anybody heard anything on when a gen 8 might be rolling around?
Wheres this at?
Jacksonville FL
9:56 that shit was funny
I think it would have been pretty interesting to see the Traxxas Summit 1/10 try to get in on that action
Do you live in ky
I'm only asking because I live in ky but I have no one to crawl with
I live way down south of you in Florida, there must be someone local to you, check facebook for local groups
Jeremy Mcguire Kentucky here
Bryon Sparkman where about in ky I live in estill county
I live close to Danville ky you might still be a ways out lol
SO YOU LOSE ALOT OF POWER AND SPEED WHEN YOU SWITCH TO PORTAL
You'll be lifted higher with more torque though, it makes sense if you use it for rock climbing.
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I hope they WORK!!! 👍👍 Good, thorough assembly Video.
These were definitely Designed more for Scalers and Crawlers, than Bashers....
Speed wasn't the main concern. I'd recommend staying with the Stock Axles if anyone needs Speed.
For hardcore Crawlers, the reduction at the Axle (less Axle twist that way), are a Godsend!!
Cain't wait to get mine... but there's at least one thing that needs addressing with the "Beta" Axles. The Panhard Mount makes it nearly impossible to get the right front Shock on.
I do believe that Redcat will fix that, and maybe even larger Bearings and machined gears in the Portals.
So far mine are working great, even survived brushless, check my other videos.
And I didn’t get notification why? Lol YT u suck! Now back to these portals. Great video brotha! So r these things still listed for $1k? Typo or what’s going on with the price? I love the end,dudes blasting his with boulders 😂
LoL they are listed for $1k but these are the beta axles and with the discount code they end up being $70 shipped. Yeah Mark was trying to “knock it over” LoL.
check your gearing....it clearly looks like there is overdrive in the rear
gearing is same in both ends
For cryin out loud I'm looking for the real thing lol not models :)
????? and why are the rear wheels pushing the truck? and pulling it in revers ????? GEAR DIFF??????
Slop in the driveline makes it look like that, the rear has tighter tolerances due to less moving parts so it is usually first to pull in either direction.
I thought ur gonna install in a real truck!!! Faaaaak!
lol those days are behind me now, its much easier with these.
I farted
U must be learn to be driver rc
Quit driving stock shit put different tires on it much better performance
What was the price?
$70 for the beta axles I have
Exocaged RC can u send link for them
No more are available at this time. These were a limited run of axles for testing. Sorry.