Utter contempt for a member of the public. Refusing to identify. Ignorant of policy and procedure. Escalating a non-incident. How many people does she noise up like this every day.
She really thought becoming a PCSO made her super important and able to lord it over the public with no regard to her actual powers but worse of all not having a clue about identifying herself.
She needs a fast reality check and telling that the police have no power or authority over a law abiding member of the public, let alone a PCSO that has almost zero power
Always ask to see the designation card BEFORE you have any conversation with these Police re-enactors in costume. It's written in the ridiculous law that enables these muppets to exist that they must carry it and show it on demand.
Correcct, it is law that says if you ask for or demand a designation card it must be produced instantly, if not they dont have the non powers they claim to have.
Some pea brain high up in the police suggested recently that they should be elevated to the rank of Constable with all the powers that rank grants. No mention of more training, just a new uniform. It obviously was as welcome as a fart in a space suit as I've heard no more about it.
Ask her to ID before anything - as well as her Designation Card. Deeply worrying in this day and age that said, that she didn't even know she was legally obligated to show her Designation Card on request.
If they don't ID when in a forward facing public roll , It strongly suggests that their conduct overall is not going to be in the publics best interest .
They KNOW they've got to show their designation cards, the just don't give a shit and ignore their own policies. Why should they give a shit?, if you complain, nothing will happen anyway. :/
@@samtaurus007 Spoken like a true defeatist . Who the chuff are you to raise you voice at me anyway. you maudlin little mini moaner . sling your chuffing hook elsewhere.
@Truth Dante The simple thing would be to just ignore them and/or call the police. They will soon get fed up of the idiots that don't show their cards.
How reckless was that PCSO to say “we have had loads & loads of terrorist attacks”. What? She should always provide the designation card , when asked to reveal her powers. She obviously needs a refresher course. The x4 officers at the end , were only a relief and exceedingly encouraging, That is what we needed,
@@glenmorgan4597 just so reckless of she. They always throw that out …like there is a likely impending terrorist attack. Therefore, they can detain, ID, search, jail and or worse, just so reckless.💜
When she mentioned the “this day and age” nonsense why didn’t she apply it to herself as regards her designation card. It works both ways. Astounding that she’d never heard of it. We pay for these useless PCSOs, they should at least be properly trained in how to approach the public.
It always amazes me that the police do not know not only their policies but the laws of the land. But at least the male cop put her straight on her policy.
Loved the look on that PSO when she found out that she had to show her designation card and the clueless look on her face and when she asked the police officer as she got to, she did the walk of shame the best I have seen all disappointed. The other police officers were alright it was nice to some good police officers I was beginning to think there was not any shame no drone footage as that might have got the Tyrants out. Great video can't wait for the next one.
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What happened here is the audit was going well and they saw you on cctv... The police inside wanted a good laugh at some ones expense so they sent out the least liked officer to deal with you while they watch and have some tea and a laugh
happens all the time, why do you think you see young freshies coming out with pimples still on the cheeks rather than older (although you do still get older)
A good friend of mine's Dad is a recently retired Officer and my mate told me that his station they tossed a coin as to who goes out to speak to the camera man
One guess how she got the job! My nephew started as a special for Staffordshire police. Did three years, and was told he couldn't become a sworn officer, because he didn't fall into the requirements to meet the force's "Diversity Targets" he was basically told he couldn't become a sworn officer, because he is WHITE FFS. He now works for the MET, but that meant moving away from his local area, where his family and friends live. This is why our police forces are such a shower of sh!te, because they do not employ people on ability, or merit. So you end up with UTTERLY CLUELESS PCSO's like this, who think the job is all about arrogance and tyranny, whilst massaging their own egos and narcissism.
Makes you wonder how PCSO's are trained and in what their duties are and the scope of what they are entitled to do (Oh that's what their designation card is for) which they do have to produce when asked when they come into contact with a member of the public in an official capacity. Well done the 2 officers in civies
Its actually the LAW that she needs to show you her designation card 'IF' she is relying on any of the powers designated on it as per section 42 of the police reform act 2002. However 'IF' she isn't trying to use any of her powers then she's not obligated to show you it if indeed she is even carrying it because many don't and don't even understand what one it.
She was trying to ID him, so she was TRYING to use powers , but a power that she had NOT been designated , as no 'relevant ' offence had been suspected or committed . .
@@A2Z1Two3 But was asking him his name trying to use a designated power ? Anyone can ask your name whether it be police, PCSO or member of the public. Now if she then turn around and said something like... "under section 50 of the police reform act I want your name and address" then that would be different.
@@PINACI PCSO can get details unlike constables who can only do it after arrest. But you right, they need to suspect an offence. It could be argued that she thought the filming was the offence. In any case if she gets away with not using her designated powers she still fails on abusing her authority by demanding ID. Note that I say demanded and not asked. Her whole body language and attitude and approach shows that it was not a normal conversation where she was interested in his name as you would if you might meet again in the future.
How cruel to send that little girl out to face a camera without any basic training or understanding of her own policies! Boys and girls at the end were full of information and performed quite well!
So they send out the least informed person to challenge a member of the public. Demands ID, pulls out the intimidating notebook. Swiftly realised that she is not entitled to details and puts it away.
This designation card business. When a pcso or constable refuses to identify like that, arrest them! Make a citizen's arrest, saying you are detaining them until a copper happens along because you believe them to be impersonating a crown servant, or whatever they are. That would make for an interesting scenario.
Very interesting, whether they charge you with false arrest and false imprisonment, and if you used any force to hold them, assault. Your justification that as she didn't show her designation card, when in the circumstances she did not have to, whilst dressed in uniform, meeant you resonable theought she was impersonation a police officer, appears to be pretty much what I'd describe as bollocks.
But she did have to produce her designation card, by training, by instruction, by policy and i do believe by law she must produce that card when asked. By not doing so the inference is that she is either acting illegally or impersonating a police officer (by as in this instance dressing as police personnel...)
@@HoratioChinn Well, Horatio, wearing a uniform is all the identity she needs, according to you, huh? I mean, who on this good Earth would even consider dressing up as a Copper or a pcso, and throwing their weight around in some mental illness episode? Get a grip. Its not like they have a special law to deal with people who do just that. is it? "(1)Any person who with intent to deceive impersonates a member of a police force or special constable, or makes any statement or does any act calculated falsely to suggest that he is such a member or constable, shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six ..." Oh it is! Well, fancy that.
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It’s worrying that probably the majority of the existing and newly appointed plods have the same lack of knowledge of the law and contempt for the public as the little female. Shameful unprofessional behaviour.
These police stations look very much like the police stations in N Ireland during the recent troubles. The major difference is that no English police station has been attacked since 1945 !!!
Constable Designation Card approached and got thrown under the bus..Then the two male cops show up and back the bus up over her a couple times..There has to be some kind of laundry detergent out there that will remove all those tire marks from her uniform..
Those two coppers and the two female coppers were both respectful and professional. However the PCSO needs to be formally re-educated as she is a liability to the Met Police.
Great work 🤘 most of the officers there were courteous. Standards need to be upheld and regularly tested. If they work with us , we'll work with them. Tyranny needs to be avoided.and lip service wont wash with those of us that are aware of the principle.
In hindsight, if you meet undercover police, maybe you could blur their faces and attire and let them know you'll be doing so , so they can go about their jobs unhindered.
The fact she doesn't have a clue and a member of the public has to educate her on her policy is frightening. Atleast the rest knew their stuff and were polite.
Thanks for taking a "stab" at the Ilford station and proving a good education. 👍 Nov 2018 a gentleman's iPhone was turned in to the Ilford Sation. An app indicated the iPhone in the station. Over the course of 3 visits, the gentleman received little assistance and officers could not find the iPhone. One officer did appear to actually search for it and acknowledged it was turned in. Met Police are investigating. (As there is no update likely the case is still open on the missing iPhone in the police station... always tell the police the camera is ON, they will find the phone). 2020 Ilford Station was closed for a refurbishment as part of the four station 18mil contract with Wilmott Dixon. Det Ch Supt stated the refurbishment was much needed for the comfort of officers: "“The building in its current form doesn’t provide our staff with the facilities or equipment to provide the best possible service to our communities. “While I’m aware the temporary closure may be a concern to some residents, I would like to stress that this is temporary - this police station and its 24-hour front counter will re-open as soon as refurbishments have been completed." As for the public, they were directed to go to the Barkingside Station front counter which was temporarily reopened. Refurb all about officer comfort and not public service evidently. Didn't find any recent planning applications for the refurbishment. Land Registry shows a large center parcel and narrow parcels on either side of the block housing Ilford Police. Planning search using 270-294 High Road did provide a general history of the location: 1955 storage and light engineering and petrol filling station 1962 shopfront 1965 illuminated sign 1972 illuminated facia sign Suspect the station was constructed late 60s from that info.
We the public are entitled to look at a pcso's designation card read it and hand it back. Any pcso without a designation card is not an acting psco and any offence you may have committed could be null and void even if a real tyrant pig turns up. A pcso is contractually obliged to present the designation card upon request by a member of the public under police policy.
Really well done JB. Great interaction, and you really handeld yourself well against a mutitude of officers. I am very impressed. Turned out to be NOT a "Boring Video"
No no the only time you need to identify is when you have committed a CRIME an offence is under legislation, and last time I checked the government couldn’t produce the 67.23 million signed contracts saying that we want to be governed and will comply to legislation!
Good pro audit. Never let these arrogant fools who parade the streets pretending to serve the public get away with their dismissive, superior attitude!
According to the HOME OFFICE a PCSO must upon request present THEIR CURRENT DESIGNATION CARD to the public the document which MUST BE IN DATE and signed by the CHIEF CONSTABLE is a legal document and failing to present it " can result in a criminal prosecution " so this PCSO must be reported to the IOPC for disciplinary action , I did hear and so o nly a rumour a PCSO had lost items of kit and in doing failed to follow procedures so was " SACKED "
I just read the PCSO powers , and according to the Designatrd Powers I read PCSO are only allowed to photograph people (away from a police station) IF they have been detained , arrested or given a fixed penalty . That makes me query if PCSOs are allowed to use Body Worn Cameras in public when a person has NOT been detained , arrested or issued a fixed penalty 😮. That is, perhaps worth auditors questioning them on the extent of their powers on use of BWC as they often put them on and don't even announce the fact , never mind that they may not be entitled to have them on . If on viewing the designated powers , the PCSO has not the power to use BWC in the absence of Detention, arrest or Fixed Penalty, then that should be an angle to criticise its use ( or demand they switch it off) But always record the police yourself .
Thanks for that A2Z, I wasn't aware of that, next time I ask for and get to look at a designation card I will go through the Powers and question the use of a BWC
She’s a good representative of the police. Arrogant, entitled, overly emotional and disrespectful……..good job EA7113 Catcalling is a crime 😂😂 are women really that weak?
So it seems. There was a time when most women would be flattered, if a guy wolf whistled at them, and many women would wink back in return. But now, we live in an overly sensitive, overly micro managed society, where people LOOK for things to be offended by. You daren't chat anybody up in a pub these days, in case you are accused of sexual harassment. It's got so bad, that we are raising a generation of SIMPS and INCELS, who have lost the ability to form relationships because of Militant feminists wanting EVERYTHING on their terms. And if as a man, I do not agree or comply, then I am a "TOXIC MALE" But I only see TOXICITY, VENOM, and VITRIOL coming from one direction, and that is from the direction of the Militant Feminist and LGBTQ+ communities. But, I'm a man, so I just ignore their BULLSH!T, and get more satisfaction out of wank!ng to internet porn instead, fleshlight in hand. It never complains, except when it needs new batteries.
Ilford is so bad I try to avoid it by walking through the needle infested park, darting across the railway lines, tip toeing past the temple and that's just so that I can visit my own Sikh temple.
The actual officers had no problem at all showing their warrant cards. So hopefully, the ARROGANT Plastic Plod has learned something today, after being embarrassed by her SWORN colleagues.
ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For a person wearing that uniform, and doesn't even know the basics of her job, is a disgrace!! Are these uniforms just issued to random people in the street, with a cut lunch to go? It seems like it!!
Freedom to photograph and film "Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel." - MET police website, so NO excuse for this obvious violation of their own rules. She is blatantly not fit to even be a PCSO, nevermind a full constable
Lovely interactions from all the warranted officers, unfortunately having had a friend whose wife was a PCSO in Ilford the attitude of the one you encountered very much reflects the attitude of PCSOs hasn't changed. My friend had the common sense to to divorce her eventually as he couldn't stand her "crappy" attitude.
The police need to learn PDQ the damage these PCSO's and ignorant PC's are doing to the force in these audit video's ... I used to be ambivalent towards the police .. but since watching these during lockdown and since I've become disillusioned with the police .... how did this PCSO get to go out on the beat not knowing policy
"Cat Calling" is illegal?! Is she sure about that? I dont think she'll have that to worry about though. Stopping "Cat Calling" with legislation will definitely prevent the Islamic rape gangs.
Training in understanding the law is poor with PCSOs and not much better with police officers an understanding of the basics of PACE would be a good start . Some PCSO's have no idea what a designation card is, it's a requirement by law that it should be carried
Ever thought of lobbying for more front counters as we are loosing them fast. We need more police contack not less and more remote dealings. Calling 101 is a waste of time?
If they don't identify, I'd be tempted to say: 'Here's the deal- in _this day and age_ I REALLY need to see your I.D. and it's _very suspicious_ if you're not willing to I.D. - _we're just having a conversation_ after all'.
That was the most arrogant little PCSO ***** I've seen in a long while, especially how she begrudgingly showed you her designation card which she is obliged to do so when asked 😖
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Utter contempt for a member of the public. Refusing to identify. Ignorant of policy and procedure. Escalating a non-incident. How many people does she noise up like this every day.
Other than that I thought it went quite well😋
Manipulation of laws but lawless police is an issue make all police feelings not rule common law
What a odd little hobbit. She also failed to identify herself and failed to notify you she was recording.
@GordonGekko-kl1qt Don't forget the 🍔🍟and ☕ as well which is an important ingredients of the modern police diets.
She is given her designation card , but has NO clue why , and seemed really poorly trained😢
Of course she's poorly trained, she's just there for diversity numbers not to actually do a good job.
She really thought becoming a PCSO made her super important and able to lord it over the public with no regard to her actual powers but worse of all not having a clue about identifying herself.
She needs a fast reality check and telling that the police have no power or authority over a law abiding member of the public, let alone a PCSO that has almost zero power
And then the plastic melted .
Exactly
Few quid off you tube though😂🎉😢
@@brianbickle7395
What a STUPID comment
Always ask to see the designation card BEFORE you have any conversation with these Police re-enactors in costume. It's written in the ridiculous law that enables these muppets to exist that they must carry it and show it on demand.
Pcsos to the police are like Aldi is to Sainsbury’s cheaper, less well trained, and rougher
Correcct, it is law that says if you ask for or demand a designation card it must be produced instantly, if not they dont have the non powers they claim to have.
They should have a card that says I’m not a real cop so no worries walk on
She's wiped her fat arse on her designation card.
Some pea brain high up in the police suggested recently that they should be elevated to the rank of Constable with all the powers that rank grants. No mention of more training, just a new uniform. It obviously was as welcome as a fart in a space suit as I've heard no more about it.
Ask her to ID before anything - as well as her Designation Card. Deeply worrying in this day and age that said, that she didn't even know she was legally obligated to show her Designation Card on request.
Uneducated police is a security risk, no wonder *loads* of attacks......
If they don't ID when in a forward facing public roll , It strongly suggests that their conduct overall is not going to be in the publics best interest .
They KNOW they've got to show their designation cards, the just don't give a shit and ignore their own policies. Why should they give a shit?, if you complain, nothing will happen anyway. :/
@@samtaurus007 Spoken like a true defeatist .
Who the chuff are you to raise you voice at me anyway. you maudlin little mini moaner . sling your chuffing hook elsewhere.
@Truth Dante The simple thing would be to just ignore them and/or call the police. They will soon get fed up of the idiots that don't show their cards.
How reckless was that PCSO to say “we have had loads & loads of terrorist attacks”. What? She should always provide the designation card , when asked to reveal her powers. She obviously needs a refresher course. The x4 officers at the end , were only a relief and exceedingly encouraging, That is what we needed,
Loads of attacks 🙄 must have missed that on the news
@@glenmorgan4597 just so reckless of she. They always throw that out …like there is a likely impending terrorist attack. Therefore, they can detain, ID, search, jail and or worse, just so reckless.💜
@@LorrieLogan This, and another line they like to overuse is..''As you know, in this Current Climate...''
@@helicoptersrkool and “the way things are now.”
No one expects the designation card inquisition. Nice job :)
My chief weapon is collar number and Id...
My main 2 weapons are collar number and Id and station.......................
@@jimosullivan1389 i think only pcso have to carry and show a designation card
For ID always demand their warrant, also their indemnity insurance in case of harm and it’s a requirement as they are operating in the public.
@@jesuschrist2284 correct.
I would also ask for hat size...
“What policy?” That sums up the standard of training in the Met. Are they still in special measures? Of course they are!!!
When she mentioned the “this day and age” nonsense why didn’t she apply it to herself as regards her designation card. It works both ways. Astounding that she’d never heard of it. We pay for these useless PCSOs, they should at least be properly trained in how to approach the public.
This is what we get when they decide to get policing on the cheap
It always amazes me that the police do not know not only their policies but the laws of the land. But at least the male cop put her straight on her policy.
Exactly - could be another Wayne Cousins!
That PCSO must have been trained on the use of destination cards. She has the same powers as a dinner lady.
Leave off mate dinners ladies have to power to make the kids go inside when it rains PCSO's don't even have that.
I wonder what her ultimate destination is..?
@@wm8982
Being a lollipop woman.
@@moby1388 How about her designation..?
@@wm8982home probably, and stay there.
Pcso has definitely got the skills to become an inspector
Definitely 100 p cent just look at the Comimissioner
Loved the look on that PSO when she found out that she had to show her designation card and the clueless look on her face and when she asked the police officer as she got to, she did the walk of shame the best I have seen all disappointed. The other police officers were alright it was nice to some good police officers I was beginning to think there was not any shame no drone footage as that might have got the Tyrants out. Great video can't wait for the next one.
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What happened here is the audit was going well and they saw you on cctv... The police inside wanted a good laugh at some ones expense so they sent out the least liked officer to deal with you while they watch and have some tea and a laugh
This could well be the truth.
happens all the time, why do you think you see young freshies coming out with pimples still on the cheeks rather than older (although you do still get older)
The cleaner was busy lol 😊
A good friend of mine's Dad is a recently retired Officer and my mate told me that his station they tossed a coin as to who goes out to speak to the camera man
And now I'M watching this and having some tea and a laugh! 😄
Pcso officer has not got a clue of any laws wont I D herself what a disgrace to the uniform and the police commissioner
She said ‘what policy’!!
Oh my gosh, genuinely how did she get that job 😮
One guess how she got the job!
My nephew started as a special for Staffordshire police. Did three years, and was told he couldn't become a sworn officer, because he didn't fall into the requirements to meet the force's "Diversity Targets" he was basically told he couldn't become a sworn officer, because he is WHITE FFS. He now works for the MET, but that meant moving away from his local area, where his family and friends live.
This is why our police forces are such a shower of sh!te, because they do not employ people on ability, or merit. So you end up with UTTERLY CLUELESS PCSO's like this, who think the job is all about arrogance and tyranny, whilst massaging their own egos and narcissism.
Box ticking
She's so rude, walking off in the middle of a conversation...
Unbelievable ! Foreign nationals barking orders and not having a clue of their own policies " what policy " ! Ffs!!!
Nice to see the constables were professional at least.
"Clueless" is very accurate and a big contrast to the charming officers
Meant to add.......it was also good to see officers speaking with you like you are a human being.
Absolutely, The Special Constable made me laugh when I mentioned the PCSO made the video, I think she humorously said "Oh Boy"
Precisely the type of person who should not be in a position of authority. Which is why she is a PCSO.
That intro GOES HARD!
Since when have police STAFF been charged with challenging the public in any way?! Ridiculous. You shouldn’t even have given her the time of day.
Fun fact!.......if your head fits a hat you've just passed the entrance exam to be a P.C.S.O.
We've serious issues within the constabulary these days we need to address this situation
Makes you wonder how PCSO's are trained and in what their duties are and the scope of what they are entitled to do (Oh that's what their designation card is for) which they do have to produce when asked when they come into contact with a member of the public in an official capacity. Well done the 2 officers in civies
Its actually the LAW that she needs to show you her designation card 'IF' she is relying on any of the powers designated on it as per section 42 of the police reform act 2002. However 'IF' she isn't trying to use any of her powers then she's not obligated to show you it if indeed she is even carrying it because many don't and don't even understand what one it.
She was trying to ID him, so she was TRYING to use powers , but a power that she had NOT been designated , as no 'relevant ' offence had been suspected or committed . .
@@A2Z1Two3 But was asking him his name trying to use a designated power ? Anyone can ask your name whether it be police, PCSO or member of the public. Now if she then turn around and said something like... "under section 50 of the police reform act I want your name and address" then that would be different.
Thanks for you advice, as you know I'm new and still learning
Thanks just looked up and read S42
@@PINACI PCSO can get details unlike constables who can only do it after arrest. But you right, they need to suspect an offence. It could be argued that she thought the filming was the offence. In any case if she gets away with not using her designated powers she still fails on abusing her authority by demanding ID. Note that I say demanded and not asked. Her whole body language and attitude and approach shows that it was not a normal conversation where she was interested in his name as you would if you might meet again in the future.
A good reaction to a member of the public, surprising, good p r interaction with officers near the end.
Im viewing your recording from America and i give you cheers for standing your ground and knowing your rights.
Thanks Susan
Excellent audit. You are good at this, your knowledge and articulation is spot on.
Thanks Benji, very much appreciated
How cruel to send that little girl out to face a camera without any basic training or understanding of her own policies! Boys and girls at the end were full of information and performed quite well!
So they send out the least informed person to challenge a member of the public. Demands ID, pulls out the intimidating notebook. Swiftly realised that she is not entitled to details and puts it away.
This designation card business. When a pcso or constable refuses to identify like that, arrest them!
Make a citizen's arrest, saying you are detaining them until a copper happens along because you believe them to be impersonating a crown servant, or whatever they are.
That would make for an interesting scenario.
Very interesting, whether they charge you with false arrest and false imprisonment, and if you used any force to hold them, assault. Your justification that as she didn't show her designation card, when in the circumstances she did not have to, whilst dressed in uniform, meeant you resonable theought she was impersonation a police officer, appears to be pretty much what I'd describe as bollocks.
But she did have to produce her designation card, by training, by instruction, by policy and i do believe by law she must produce that card when asked.
By not doing so the inference is that she is either acting illegally or impersonating a police officer (by as in this instance dressing as police personnel...)
@@HoratioChinn Well, Horatio, wearing a uniform is all the identity she needs, according to you, huh?
I mean, who on this good Earth would even consider dressing up as a Copper or a pcso, and throwing their weight around in some mental illness episode?
Get a grip. Its not like they have a special law to deal with people who do just that. is it? "(1)Any person who with intent to deceive impersonates a member of a police force or special constable, or makes any statement or does any act calculated falsely to suggest that he is such a member or constable, shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six ..." Oh it is! Well, fancy that.
Yep, the auditor could tell us all about it after their prison sentence for assaulting an emergency worker.
@@jannenreuben7398 And you would know they were an emergency worker, how, exactly?
Nice audit Scorpion. Very interesting and a good bunch at the end.
Thanks
these PCSO need retraining, power goes to their head, thank goodness for Auditors .
She totally needs retraining
Unbelievable. Why did she think she carried a designation card? Surely, not to remind herself of her powers
What powers?
1st Audit, I've seen from yourself, great work, really well done.
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It’s worrying that probably the majority of the existing and newly appointed plods have the same lack of knowledge of the law and contempt for the public as the little female. Shameful unprofessional behaviour.
What a disgustingly arrogant woman. Theres no place for people like that in public service. Dismiss her NOW!
Can't believe she didn't know she had to show her designation card who trained here should be retained 😅😅
These police stations look very much like the police stations in N Ireland during the recent troubles. The major difference is that no English police station has been attacked since 1945 !!!
Constable Designation Card approached and got thrown under the bus..Then the two male cops show up and back the bus up over her a couple times..There has to be some kind of laundry detergent out there that will remove all those tire marks from her uniform..
I'm more concerned about the stains they leave on our streets!
Designation card asked for. She didn't even know...wow.
On a pavement with a camera.
Great work by the real police at the end
Those two coppers and the two female coppers were both respectful and professional. However the PCSO needs to be formally re-educated as she is a liability to the Met Police.
Great work 🤘 most of the officers there were courteous. Standards need to be upheld and regularly tested.
If they work with us , we'll work with them. Tyranny needs to be avoided.and lip service wont wash with those of us that are aware of the principle.
In hindsight, if you meet undercover police, maybe you could blur their faces and attire and let them know you'll be doing so , so they can go about their jobs unhindered.
Well said
Good Point
PCSO clueless, and unprofessional, needs retraining,stay safe retired lifeboatman
Wonderful work great content hope you don't mind me saying could have cut it down a smidge
Thumbs up
I hear what your saying
The fact she doesn't have a clue and a member of the public has to educate her on her policy is frightening. Atleast the rest knew their stuff and were polite.
That PCSO deserved her walk of shame.
She is the new breed of 'The Telly Tubbys' of England!
Thanks for taking a "stab" at the Ilford station and proving a good education. 👍
Nov 2018 a gentleman's iPhone was turned in to the Ilford Sation. An app indicated the iPhone in the station. Over the course of 3 visits, the gentleman received little assistance and officers could not find the iPhone. One officer did appear to actually search for it and acknowledged it was turned in. Met Police are investigating. (As there is no update likely the case is still open on the missing iPhone in the police station... always tell the police the camera is ON, they will find the phone).
2020 Ilford Station was closed for a refurbishment as part of the four station 18mil contract with Wilmott Dixon. Det Ch Supt stated the refurbishment was much needed for the comfort of officers:
"“The building in its current form doesn’t provide our staff with the facilities or equipment to provide the best possible service to our communities.
“While I’m aware the temporary closure may be a concern to some residents, I would like to stress that this is temporary - this police station and its 24-hour front counter will re-open as soon as refurbishments have been completed."
As for the public, they were directed to go to the Barkingside Station front counter which was temporarily reopened. Refurb all about officer comfort and not public service evidently. Didn't find any recent planning applications for the refurbishment.
Land Registry shows a large center parcel and narrow parcels on either side of the block housing Ilford Police. Planning search using 270-294 High Road did provide a general history of the location:
1955 storage and light engineering and petrol filling station
1962 shopfront
1965 illuminated sign
1972 illuminated facia sign
Suspect the station was constructed late 60s from that info.
Thanks NR, interesting story about the missing iPhone
We the public are entitled to look at a pcso's designation card read it and hand it back. Any pcso without a designation card is not an acting psco and any offence you may have committed could be null and void even if a real tyrant pig turns up. A pcso is contractually obliged to present the designation card upon request by a member of the public under police policy.
Really well done JB. Great interaction, and you really handeld yourself well against a mutitude of officers. I am very impressed. Turned out to be NOT a "Boring Video"
Thanks Ady, I was about to wrap this one until the PCSO turned up
29:58 she handed over her designation card with all the grace of a petulant child.
Thank you for educating me 🤝👍
No no the only time you need to identify is when you have committed a CRIME an offence is under legislation, and last time I checked the government couldn’t produce the 67.23 million signed contracts saying that we want to be governed and will comply to legislation!
Good pro audit. Never let these arrogant fools who parade the streets pretending to serve the public get away with their dismissive, superior attitude!
Thanks Graham
According to the HOME OFFICE a PCSO must upon request present THEIR CURRENT DESIGNATION CARD to the public the document which MUST BE IN DATE and signed by the CHIEF CONSTABLE is a legal document and failing to present it " can result in a criminal prosecution " so this PCSO must be reported to the IOPC for disciplinary action , I did hear and so o nly a rumour a PCSO had lost items of kit and in doing failed to follow procedures so was " SACKED "
That lady officer in normal clothes, looks the double of Charlotte Crosby 🤭😂
Just subscribed matey great audit keep up the good work 👍🏼❤️👍🏼
Thanks for the sub Mohammed, very much appreciated
Great to see friendly and approachable police officers, so very encouraging... The PCSO.. Not good
Good stuff Scorpion Audits I just subscribed!
Thankyou it's very much appreciated
Spunky stuff DJ, your up there with the best ❤❤
Thanks
At 30.52 , the camera caurght a corker , was it a bottle or was it comical.
I just read the PCSO powers , and according to the Designatrd Powers I read PCSO are only allowed to photograph people (away from a police station) IF they have been detained , arrested or given a fixed penalty .
That makes me query if PCSOs are allowed to use Body Worn Cameras in public when a person has NOT been detained , arrested or issued a fixed penalty 😮.
That is, perhaps worth auditors questioning them on the extent of their powers on use of BWC as they often put them on and don't even announce the fact , never mind that they may not be entitled to have them on . If on viewing the designated powers , the PCSO has not the power to use BWC in the absence of Detention, arrest or Fixed Penalty, then that should be an angle to criticise its use ( or demand they switch it off)
But always record the police yourself .
Thanks for that A2Z, I wasn't aware of that, next time I ask for and get to look at a designation card I will go through the Powers and question the use of a BWC
She’s a good representative of the police.
Arrogant, entitled, overly emotional and disrespectful……..good job EA7113
Catcalling is a crime 😂😂 are women really that weak?
So it seems. There was a time when most women would be flattered, if a guy wolf whistled at them, and many women would wink back in return. But now, we live in an overly sensitive, overly micro managed society, where people LOOK for things to be offended by. You daren't chat anybody up in a pub these days, in case you are accused of sexual harassment. It's got so bad, that we are raising a generation of SIMPS and INCELS, who have lost the ability to form relationships because of Militant feminists wanting EVERYTHING on their terms. And if as a man, I do not agree or comply, then I am a "TOXIC MALE"
But I only see TOXICITY, VENOM, and VITRIOL coming from one direction, and that is from the direction of the Militant Feminist and LGBTQ+ communities.
But, I'm a man, so I just ignore their BULLSH!T, and get more satisfaction out of wank!ng to internet porn instead, fleshlight in hand. It never complains, except when it needs new batteries.
PCSO have as much power as a lollypop lady. Just tell them to do one
Failed dinner ladies
Love the Badge, good 4 - 0 win at Bournemouth today
Must inform members of the public at the earliest opportunity when plod film you
Top marks for the real coppers.
Ilford is so bad I try to avoid it by walking through the needle infested park, darting across the railway lines, tip toeing past the temple and that's just so that I can visit my own Sikh temple.
Terrible when the public have to remind them of their jobs
The actual officers had no problem at all showing their warrant cards. So hopefully, the ARROGANT Plastic Plod has learned something today, after being embarrassed by her SWORN colleagues.
Her face when the PC back me up....Priceless
ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For a person wearing that uniform, and doesn't even know the basics of her job, is a disgrace!!
Are these uniforms just issued to random people in the street, with a cut lunch to go? It seems like it!!
Freedom to photograph and film
"Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel." - MET police website, so NO excuse for this obvious violation of their own rules.
She is blatantly not fit to even be a PCSO, nevermind a full constable
It's interesting how some police are so open friendly and chatty - others get funny because you dare to challenge their demands. x
Tell me about it
Lovely interactions from all the warranted officers, unfortunately having had a friend whose wife was a PCSO in Ilford the attitude of the one you encountered very much reflects the attitude of PCSOs hasn't changed. My friend had the common sense to to divorce her eventually as he couldn't stand her "crappy" attitude.
Blimey!, she showed her tyrannical colours quickly.
All of the real police were very professional and respectful, the plastic one needs retraining and informing that she isnt in a gang.
This is what happens with the Met recruitment is based on box ticking. Absolutely clueless!
The police need to learn PDQ the damage these PCSO's and ignorant PC's are doing to the force in these audit video's ... I used to be ambivalent towards the police .. but since watching these during lockdown and since I've become disillusioned with the police .... how did this PCSO get to go out on the beat not knowing policy
😂😂😂Do these pcso ever get trained before going on the streets😂😂
30 mins, 57 Secs. I’m pissing myself
"Cat Calling" is illegal?! Is she sure about that? I dont think she'll have that to worry about though.
Stopping "Cat Calling" with legislation will definitely prevent the Islamic rape gangs.
Lol islamic, would you the same about Christian rape gangs?
There is talk of upgrading entry qualifications for the met. In future all new pigs will have to be able to read and write 😂
lol
PCSO is exactly what Baroness Louise Casey was talking about in her report on "the met".
We are paying her! - Why?
Tremendous. No 'O' levels, no brains, become a PCSO? X
She's NOT happy 🤣🤣🤣EXCELLENT!
Training in understanding the law is poor with PCSOs and not much better with police officers an understanding of the basics of PACE would be a good start .
Some PCSO's have no idea what a designation card is, it's a requirement by law that it should be carried
You can tell the female officer, with the Orange bottle is intelligent. She has character.
Ah, well, you see - you were obviously in the wrong wrong because nobody'd asked her before 🤣🤣.
Great work, thank you - subscribed.
Thanks for the Sub it's appreciated
Ever thought of lobbying for more front counters as we are loosing them fast. We need more police contack not less and more remote dealings. Calling 101 is a waste of time?
Totally Agree
@@scorpionaudits shell we start a campaign together?
There should be an "I" on the end of her first name.
If they don't identify, I'd be tempted to say: 'Here's the deal- in _this day and age_ I REALLY need to see your I.D. and it's _very suspicious_ if you're not willing to I.D. - _we're just having a conversation_ after all'.
That was the most arrogant little PCSO ***** I've seen in a long while, especially how she begrudgingly showed you her designation card which she is obliged to do so when asked 😖
She was shocking
Their paranoid is what I see.
They really are thick as bricks but nowhere near as useful.
Lol
One bad apple never fails
Nice one, keep at 'em.😊
"what policy" she says, says it all, not a flipping clue.