The Battle of Two Worlds! Arena & Arabia Combined!
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- Game 1 of DauT vs Slam in The Battle of Two Worlds!
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Combining a water map with a land map into one match like this would be utterly nuts. The two sides shouldn't be totally separated though, just in case one player conquers one side but the other takes the different side
He mentioned that, it would be a tie
The showmatch had 2 other games on different maps: Socotra-Oasis (socotra in the middle of where the wood and lake for oasis would be) and land nomad - islands. Both crazy
@@rbase96 socotra oasis sounds absolutely insane lol
it would have been cool if the border is a few stone wide, so that in the event there is a tie they can cross between eventually
Black Forest and two islands
A sudden death style scenario could be fun, where losing either town center ends the game.
I was thinking something similar with regicide but 2 kings on either side and if one dies its gg
I mean if they lose on one side then the other player can boom safely on that side
@candysnakes Sounds Like a nightmare to play. 10/10 would love to see it
I feel like this is a must. Since there’s no way to move between the sides, if each player completely wins a side then the game has no way to end.
@@SchrodingerMil It's a tie. Takes nothing out of the game. Lots of wonderful strategic games can end tie. Chess included.
"The bird sees the..." this caster is too hilarious
Well it's true, the bird sees it! I'm surprised he didn't say something like it's got a bird's eye view of what Slam is doing
the bird is a reoccurring guest on the T90 show
Imagine a civ bonus that lets you have a scout bird
I need this map for doubles. It would be cool if standard victory but if either side collects all the relics or completes a wonder it triggers deleting the divider wall!
It's a great map. A Tree barrier is much better cause then you'll have more options. Would love to see more of it and see how high elo players react and use the terrain for their benefit.
Both barriervariations are interessting
i dont like the tree barrier idea tbh, it would change the dynamic of the maps. For example, wood is meant to be scarce on arabia. With the wood barrier, they could just slam villagers on it for easy wood, and it wouldnt really be arabia.
@@EwwwYT Well, I think the barrier is cool, but you can just slam arena vills on the wood. The resources are shared between the two sides.
This was so much fun to watch. But man that would be draining to play, tough enough playing one.
Can't wait to see more, making this a series is definitely a good idea
Would be cool in a 2v2, where two players get arena and two get arabia, essentially becoming two 1v1s until later when the barrier gets removed.
Uuuuh... I don't really get how different would it be to just two simple and different 1vs1 here
This would be different to two 1v1s as they would be able to get to each other later in the game. The civs they picked would have to account for being EITHER an arena or an arabia civ, and the strategies used could vary wildly compared to a 1v1.
I could see slinging, tree cutting with onagers, and great macro play.
One thought off the top of my head is that arabia players would be at a great disadvantage late game if they went for early aggression, considering that they would be far behind economically to the arena players on the other side, even if they won. This might lead to fast castling, and I could see the arena player slinging the arabia player being a big part of the meta for this sort of map.
Not that I believe this would be the most different thing ever, but it would still be interesting to see how players adapt.
I think they should make the middle barrier the wood then stone or gold so you have to mine through it and the players can decide how much they want focus on it. GG. I’d definitely like to see more of it
That would result in the map being a combination of Michi and 2 other maps.
Please do more combined maps, this is awesome!
Same setup, one change: a single connecting path in each player's base, completely covered by a non-functional Wonder (so no way to cross). Win condition is to destroy the opponent's Wonder.
Wait a minute. Since both sides are completely closed, is it possible to tie with each player winning one side?
I think you would indeed need to make the barrier disappear after a certain amount of time to allow units to pass through and prevent stalemates.
Wonder victory ftw
The map maker said in the twitch chat, that the map originally did that at sixty minutes but Daut didn't want it.
I don't think its likely. Having one side with free eco is just so strong you can come back from basically anything on the other side.
I think they should make it stone or gold they have to mine through.
or make a choke point
I feel like you didn't even watch the video considering t90 mentions the possibility of a stalemate about half a dozen times, as well as going rather in depth as to how that might work.
Someone must have come up with this before. It would blow my mind to know that this game is so old but nobody has ever had this idea before
Holy crap, this is insanely creative. Only in AoE2 right?!
I know it isn't possible. But. Imagine how cool it would be to have some water on one side, then the middle wall disappeared and the water flooded part of the other side, creating a lake or suddenly making that side into islands or something.
Tc and all resources around the map starts on a higher elevation that won't get flooded
@@ExploitGarage exactly. If only that could be done. Imagine armies wiped out, buildings underwater...
@@graemegourley7616 theoretically age already knows elevation because of bonus damage.. If someone spent enough time it could happen!
@@ExploitGarage and i suppose those "damage storms" that move in from the edges. Could water be used in a similar way?
Or a map with stone walls that act as levees keeping out the higher seas and waterways like The Netherlands. If you destroy your opponent's walls, you flood him out!
now do it with 4 worlds in a 4v4
On a Giant map size
Never been this early before
Me neither and I'm not too smelly yet
Cool map, though why do they call this Arabia IDK.
Arabia never had this amount of multiple tiny woodlines, It's more like "Desert".
Daut's ability to withstand intense pressure, especially early on, and still boom and persist is frankly legendary
What about 4 Socotra maps, one in each corner?
Should these be played with 400 pop cap to compensate? 11
This map style is AWESOME!!! Dying to see more of this
Overall I really like the idea of Idle TC time, but it also doesn't make much sense when there are multiple TC's, at least not if the other side doesn't have the same number of TC's.
I feel it would make more sense to have "active TC time" listed instead, so even if a player gets stuck on 1 TC, it's visible, while the other player with 4 TC's but only producing out of 1 or 2 is also noticeable.
Incredible idea in order to identify the most well rounded civs !!
Hi everyone! How do I download this map?? Help, asking for real. I only hv the maps that comes OG with the game, even after all the expansions and patches.
The Map pack is called "Two Worlds" where the Walls disappear after 60 minutes atm and "Two Worlds forever" where they never disappear
I hope future tournaments have 1 map with this characteristics or similar concept. Also would be sick for ladder 2on2: When it ends on a 1on1, some gates open and you unite the map.
Although a bit gimmicky, this is a very cool concept and I can foresee a lot more potential styles with it. Really excited about this one!
there’s a few age of mythology campaign scenarios like this, I think. Thanks for bring this to us, T90!
Sorta true. Like a big wall with the trojan gate which can get knocked down and then the battle begins.
@@TheHadesShade shit I wish people had good enough comps to reliably play fwg
That was great from Daut! Used the Bengalis perfectly👍Those battle elephants steamrolling is so satisfying lol!
Man we need airships or something to traverse those cliffs. Age of Empires Steampunk Edition, anyone?
We also like it! ;)
Having a single tile path between the sides would be cool with a wide forest to chop through. A conversion tutorial for T90- conversion rate is 28% per second but only start their conversions after 4 seconds (min) for eagles and scouts it is 8 seconds. After 10 seconds it is automatic conversion. The Teuton and Sicilian bonus as I would suspect for Bengali elephants adds +1 to min and +2 max range Also they have a conversion resistance of 2 which reduces the conversion by 2 for 14% from end of round 5 (min) to max 12th round. Faith is even better at a cost of 1000 gold and 750 food. The min is +2 max is +4 and resistance is 3. New conversion are 6th round to 14th round and conversion is 28/3 (9.33%).
Is there a way to make this map where each player starts with an AI ally who immediately resigns? So you can control the ally but can’t send resources back and forth that way you truely are playing two separate games at once without influencing the other?
Love watching this. Happy to leave complications like this to the pros
This is fantastic idea! Definetely need other alternatives for this matchup...
They should probably remove the rock barrier if one of the original town center is destroyed
I like that too, could you attack the other side with a treb?
What about starting kitty corner
imagine this scenario with a 3th map in map where they can reach each other only through water :D also no more tie problem :)
THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE!!!! My favorite campaign map was always the Genghis Khan map where you fight on two fronts. Please do more of this.
Which vid was that! Curious for s a u c e.
@@0rphros uhh... It's not a vid... Did you ever even play aoe2?
13:16 they take -25% bonus dmg AND are more resistant to conversions
from the bengalis' page on aoe wiki: "Elephant units receive -25% bonus damage and are more resistant to conversion."
how much more resistant?
we need a sotl test :p
10:13 THE BIRD SEES ALL
8:38 T90: "I do not see how DauT will get enough food to produce from his TCs"
DauT: "I will get Heavy Plow before I plant farms. I know it's greedy, but I cannot resist."
This is REALLY REALLY cool. I want to see a lot more split maps in the future
This would be fun with two players playing the same player (selecting the same colour) for both teams. Like a 2v2 but both players can control each other's teams bases.
To avoid a tie, the map could instead be three submaps - the winner would be best of 3.
What is this map called in the mods? I don't see it.
18, Do it for the algorithm!
In regards to the wonder victory, how about in the middle of the separation there's a Gaia Wonder and it could be like King of the Hill? If you end up with each person winning half the map, then they could go in and activate the Wonder and then have to use archers/artillery to try and maintain control of it from their side.
Civs with better ranged win by default then
what if each player capture one side?🤔 i.e. daut has TC & vills in arabia & slam has TC & vills in arena..
How will they win the game? trubs fight along walls... deadlock😅😅
I wish you could convert wolves with monks
Earliest (smelly) YT watcher to get the absolute SHOCK of this map!
Now Imagine what a map with one half of Forest Nothing and one half of another Nothing be like... For 4-6 players due to 2 TCs.
You could make some of the tiles of the divider wall from gold or from stone which you can mine. You couldn't shoot your way through with an onager like you could with a forest, but you can get through eventually. You could make three minable narrow passages, one by each player's base and one in the middle.
The key is to pick civs that are balanced by having expensive upgrades. Two TCs and two maps make those one-time costs much less significant.
This was KIND OF a cool idea... Then I realised it's a ONE V ONE, not a 2v2.
or the barrier removing itself periodically (gamey, i know) but it would create these fun situations where one player is literally waiting for reinforcements every 5 minutes.
Tapping on the screen to show things? Yeah ... me in every other Teamsmeeting, preferably using my fingers, to make sure nobody sees it!
Camel bonus vs elephants isn't great. Even a civ with garbage pikes would do better damage wise, not to mention not throwing gold units to the trample damage.
Yet another time that T90 underestimates DauT. I would really want to see a Bo21 between him and Daut just to see him get demolished.
I love daut no homo
Happy to see elephant being legit and not a gimmick unit. Hope theyndo something boutthe elephant archers too
Sadly you need halb to be out of the game for elephants to be useful
We need a building that could cost as much as Wonder but would be a portal to other world, after constructed can't be destroyed...
See I think if slam had halbs available that's not to hard to push back. Spamming halb is always going to beat elephants
maybe this map would work better if it was sudden death, where losing either starting TC made you lose?
a map with a one tile separation wall, so that you can cross it with siege towers.
if you lose one side completely, you can repopulate with vills
here is a suggestion. how about implement a tec like spies where people could pay for the stone wall to be removed?
What's even the strat for this? Like, go for a greedy strat in Arena to fuel a really aggressive in Arabia?
Water map with two islands would be great imo. Instead of stone hills water would divide both sides.
How do I download this map?
The center should be walls instead of rocks. Now you have bf, 3 in 1 deal
Why not just use trebuchets to help out the other side? Or is there an actual world barrier and the rocks are just for fun
Where do i find this map
This looks brilliant 👌
Yo! Drop The Wall and Fatslob on one of those on a black forest / arena hybrid.
I can see some problems but it's can be a great game setting if we keep trying and improving
Fighting elephants late game you must use gorilla warfare tactics … let them chase a small army use another small army to
Attack their base … slam kept his all in 1 army instead of splitting into 2/4 groups
Elephants are slow ….
Use Calvary and make them chase you or go all in on you , you will win just, remember they are slow . You don’t have to engage .
Guerilla not gorilla. In this case Daut could force the issue, because if Slam tried to split his army then Daut would just clean his base with his elephant deathball.
this map was promising, but the matchup couldnt be worse
Holly sheep....
I can't manage one base effeciently how they do two bases
This kind of map would be great for a 2v2 Sudden Death.
lmao i point at my screen too when im trying to describe something to friends on discord or whatever.
Really nice map!! Great idea!
Thanks for showing that game!
PD: They both get castle age at the same time, but Daut has 8 villa thanks to Bengalis. It should apply to only one TC
When Medieval civilisations discover how to teleport resources but not personnel.
Next level: 2 players play StarCraft and Age of Empire at the same time
If it's possible to have a 2 TC star without bugging out sudden death(lose tc lose game) then you could have an irremovable barrier but make it so that the TC's always spawn within trebuchet range from the other side for a truly weird endgame to counter act ties.
I kinda wonder how this map would work in 2v2 or 4v4. But then, the barrier would have to disappear at some point, or it could end in a draw. At least, on conquest.
Just having a small pond between the two sides, so you can transport across
For those that don't know (like Slam) Camels are trash against elephants
What if the center strip was a narrow 1 tile wide area that held the kings of both sides, a keep, and nothing else. You could then call the map "Neapolitan" and never worry about stalemates
Great map! What map size is used here? This would also be a interesting map for co-op, where to players have to share the same ressources and techs...
pretty stupid to separate the 2. might lead to boring deadlocks.
I already liked Bengalis; Daut makes them look scary.
OMG
Clearly a map for a macro nerd. Really fun to watch but too hard to play for me. 😎
Camels are glass canons, not great in sustained fight where elephants thrive
Make it 4 sides.
Viper Vs. Larry for the finals of the 1st Double Cup.
Definetely, Daut is way more better than Slam but at least that a great game !
Obviously, I want to see more of this kind of content in a future.
Double maps, double metas
I would like to see regicide version. that way you would have one side fighting for eco and one side fighting for the win. You could also try to snipe the king if you are losing one side.
Berbers get pikeman, just not halb... :P
Can ranged units like trebuchets fire across the middle barrier?
Arana or Arebia. Also isn't this actually usable for 2 players on each team to control 1 color? So 1 player can control the top and 1 can do the bottom.