"Okay, a horse has an attack value of 1d6+4, but because it's alive and you have no training in handling it I'd give you a heavy penalty to hit chance. If you had a sword or another weapon longer than a knife or a dagger, I'd give you a bonus to damage and hit chance because of height advantage, but you don't, so I don't recommend using the horse." A more elegant way of doing things, isn't it? Remember that you're the DM. Just make shit up. You don't know how much damage a cleaver will do? Make it up. What do you have to roll to ride a horse? Make it up. Are there gonna be penalties for that because the ydon't have the skill, because it's night, because the horses are spooked? If you want. What is that penalty? Make it up. Make. Shit. Up. The way you're DMing, you could for example send the two a troll to fight. So Vee has the idea to prepare a trap by dragging a boulder up a hill to smash him Wile E Coqote style. He then lures the troll to the trap and tells you that he wants to set it off. You look in the rulebook and you can't find boulder related attacks, so you tell him he just can't do it. You didn't tell him that before he lured the troll to the trap though and the troll still appears and effortlessly kills him. While the troll rips Vee apart and gnaws on his insides, Arch makes a couple of snarky comments and else does nothing. The point of a DM in roleplaying is to make the world come alive. Maybe Vee is too weak to drag the boulder up a hill. Maybe he doesn't know how to prepare the trap. Maybe he's too slow to lure the troll. All valid reasons for why this could fail, but don't tell a player something can happen only to just tell him "nope" in the last second; and if the problem is that you can't find anything in the rulebook, for the love of god just _make shit up._
It's amazing, the Diversity Hire Cleric ends up killing practically every monster, saves the life of the blind NPC, somehow escapes with 1 life point and a prayer book he doesn't understand because he starts with only 1 in Religion.
Still doesn't beat my mad scientist noble eldritch knight who is married to a dragon wields a rocket powered minotaur's axe with his best friend a minotaur paladin with a flamethrower and male elf cleric who is perpetually confused at the state affairs.
I don't really care if you guys follow the rules to the letter. As a gamemaster it's your job to interpret the rules in such a way as to benefit the gaming experience. In my opinion at least.
while i agree with you, they don't seem to have had a discussion on what rules to use and not, and how, before the game which makes a bit of an chaotic play. Making it up as u go along when it comes to rules is a bit... at least if it is all the time and not some special circumstance house ruling stuff.
Of course it would help if Sargon was more familiar with the rules. Basic thing like knowing what the skills do would help a lot... :D I'm just saying that it's ok for the GM to make a judgement call to move the game along, then look up the actual rules later.
Knut Mikael Haukeland agreed, especially in this setting where I would guess the guys are tight on time as it is. These are after all busy dudes who don't have normal workhours :)
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand 5th edition. The mechanics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the nuances will go over a typical player’s head.
I love you Sargon but this was painful. I did see you were going to thoroughly read the book so that's good. I can't blame you, it is your first time playing 5e, my best advice, don't be afraid to call a rule. If you don't understand a rule make it up. Also listen to vee a bit more, a lot of what he says is right but y'all dismiss it cuz he's vee
Vee is a good roleplayer but was not making good calls for almost all of this, rolled improperly, didn't use line of sight, didn't understand his spells, didn't understand how his class worked in this or session zero and kept rule lawyering things he didn't even understand. They're all atrocious at 5e the last two sessions but there's nothing elevating Vee here besides good luck with his rolls in combat and his crazy cleric of charisma rp.
Matthew Dylla I only watched half this one, but when you have a dm the fundamentally doesn't understand the system you need someone too rules lawyer. A lot "at least that I can remember, I haven't watched since my post" of the stuff vee would say was right "not all tho". Tbh I'm disappointed in how little they prepared for this. I was really excited.
Tho like in my first post I don't blame them at all. This is their first time. My first time I was AWEFUL. As I'm sure we all were. They'll get better, I just want them to stop being so rude to vee
Someone needs to do a debunking video on sargons doesn't understand Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition these last 2 sessions have been like watching Anita Sarkissian play video games.
i think the main problem is that sargon directs the players too much. the dm is supposed to be impartial, sort of... the dm is always able to adapt the rules to suit his campaign but those interpretations should be agreed upon before the campaign is begun. sargon is turning into a megalomaniac irl and it is affecting his dm style. hubris will not be kind to him. personally, i like him and hope the fall from grace is not too painful when it comes.
"Like watching Anita Sarkeesian play video games." Surely that's uncalled for. Especially since I don't think Anita Sarkeesian ever actually played any video games. But I digress. Play 2nd edition. It was sleek and simple and worked just fine. Hell, I used to run great campaigns in the late 1980s out of the old AD&D manuals from the late 70s and 1 each of the d4, 6, 8, 10, 12 and 20. No rules lawyers, no b.s. It worked just fine and we had a blast.
6 minutes in. Arch SAYS he spots a woman with a large rack. And you don't make him roll a perception check? What the hell sort of campaign are you running here?
ARCH really needs to let things go. He keeps think he knows best and blaming Vee as if Arch was right all along. Arch sent Vee to investigate the first zombie. Arch is the one that stopped them going straight for the horses. Vee wanted to run from the start and Arch stopped him. Arch stopped Vee from running from the inn after Vee started screaming. Lastly, Arch is the most cowardly fighter ever. He lets Vee tank everything when it is obvious that these enemies are really weak. Yes Vee shouldnt be afraid of kitchens and start screaming for help but Arch is playing like his character is made of paper. Also JUST PUNCH THINGS guys! How hard is it to just bottle neck these enemies and just wail on them! Arch you had a horse for HP soak... And you just run like a coward... You are a fighter. Arch even then blames Vee for not checking his rolls and telling him he was doing it wrong instead of the GM... Finally we have the best bit: Arch: Yeah we didnt need to fight in the barn at all. We could have just run away. Vee: Well i wanted to run away from the start. Arch: But then we would have been surrounded. Arch was playing so timidly early on and Vee tanked everything so Arch was able to get his horse. Then after doing all that Arch realises he can actually kill things but does nothing but putting blame on Yee for stupid reasons. Yelling for help in the kitchen is the only thing Vee did wrong, that and his obession with NPCs praising him. Everything else was Arches cowardice.
To be fair, you have to a very high IQ to understand Arch. But seriously, I think he's being in-character somewhat with that portrayal of a noble. "Go investigate the zombie, peasant."
I honestly couldn't tell if Arch was in character playing a snobby ass, or if he's just like that. I thought Vee was the only dude I'd want at my gaming table. He's actually role playing his character.
Not just the cantrips, but did you know you need to prepare the spell only once, and cast it as many times as you have spell slots??? What devilry is this Amish ???
Indeed my friend, just that "ye-that-shan't-be-named" might have had too much 3.5 "impressions" that did not turn out to be.... Seriously, someone needs to explain the rules to them properly....
I like the change to spell preparation, you don't just wake up and forget how to cast spells anymore or forget how to use it as soon as you cast it. You are still locked in on your prepared spells unless you spend the time to change them.
Vee has a fun character to play with. He's not your standard by the book, capitalize on your stats, cookie cutter cleric and is instead this flawed human with different strengths. Let him play the role he's envisioned for himself and you might be surprised what he can accomplish. Either way! He's more fun than your boring run of the mill character.
More like, "how dare you pathetically flounder around, arguing and stumbling over the rules that you literally didn't bother reading". Vee didn't read the book, Arch didn't read the book, and Sargon skimmed it 6 months ago and forgot most of it. This isn't a problem of memorization, this is going in for a test without reading the material. They should have just played Pathfinder, they'd understand the rules much more and wouldn't have spent an hour figuring out stuff they should have already known.
It's been awhile but I've DM'd a few campaigns. When these things would come up I would fudge it to something that makes some kind of sense (that the players can mostly agree to) and then address the proper rules at the beginning of the next session in a recap/housekeeping phase. (we did it this way last time, the books says this.) The important thing is keeping the story/session going and having fun rather than rifling through a manual. Let them plow through the undead on horseback (if they calmed the horses). Do a dex check to see if the undead get knocked over. If knocked over roll an attack to see if they take damage from the hooves. If an undead doesn't get knocked over, roll an attack to see if they cling to horse and try to clamber up to get at the riders. Crits give a chance to trip up the horse or knock the rider off. I personally think it's better to be nimble and creative rather than shackled to a rule book but other's mileage may vary depending on the personalities of the players. There were some hitches here and there but overall they seemed to be having fun so no harm done.
The problem is that they'd have to fudge ALL the rules. They didn't even do the simple attack rules correctly until the end. And yeah, no real harm done. Most people's problem is that they spent most of the session complaining about the rules.
"Actually, if you were fighting, say, a gang of goblins, why on earth would they go for the dude with all the armour?" They don't have to. It'd just be at disadvantage, because the fighter (TANK) would have chosen the protection fighting style forcing enemies in his line of sight to attack at disadvantage against him. I mean for fucks sake kiddo, fighter class fighting style is done at level 1. Do you even know what you're talking about? Legit, Paladin info from ADND1e The cavalier paladin may parry up to two opponents (one with each hand, whether by shield or by weapon). A weapon parry reduces all of the (single) opponent's attack rolls by all of the cavalier's to hit bonuses (including strength, magic, weapon of choice) for that round; a shield parry reduces all of (single) opponent's attack rolls by one, and an additional reduction of one for each +1 of the shield. A cavalier parrying with the shield may not include the shield in his armor class against any other attacks (i.e., from other opponents) during that round; a character parrying with a weapon may not use that weapon to attack during that round. (Arcana rules do not permit a character to attack and parry in the same round; MyWorld rules permit the character to attack with any weapon not used to parry.) The choice to parry with the shield costs the cavalier one attack, as his attention must be given to blocking the opponent's moves. What's a tank again?
Hey Sargon, a thing I see on D&D streams (especially with new/newer DMs) is that the DM has a D&D "senpai" on hand. Someone that isn't actually a part of the campaign, but is a master when it comes to rules and all that kind of stuff. So instead of shuffling through books breaking the momentum, they'll quickly shoot a message to the senpai (usually through a text based message, and only the DM can do this) and the senpai will message back with the correct actions to take. However The DM always has the last ruling no matter what. I'm sure you can find someone that will be willing to be your "senpai" especially with your reach. If they're running their own campaign, maybe just give them a shoutout at the end of the video. Just an idea I thought I'd throw out there.
My group irl has this. We'll use roll20 but are still in person. Our DM is competent and creative, but he has a secondary friend/co-worker who has one other group he has been DM of forever. This guy helps remind him of certain specific rules, and the few times we've had new members he's helped usher them in and create their character's place in the campaign. Including me. We're a group of seven and it's a blast. The secondary help also makes things move at a better pace and encourages role playing.
1:53:51 "It's not my job to act as your memory" -Sargon Couldn't Vee make an int roll and potentially have Sargon act as his memory tho? Also for all the shit Vee's been getting for his charisma, he should be able to convince Deem to lend his sword or something.
God, after my last game it's so satisfying to see a DM that actually understands how to handle nobility. My last DM constantly ignored that peasants aren't supposed to fuck with the nobility. Really gimped my inquisitor-style Paladin Lord character. Couldn't RP right at all with that shit. By the way Arch, next time when you're asked to pay for beer use bluff/intimidate to act insulted and give a dirty look to incite an offer for free beer.
Changing rests from a day to a week just means that your story is now moving 7 times slower. If you don't like wounds magically healing think of it like this, it's not that you actually take damage, it's just an indicator of your overal stamina in the fight, so you'll grow tired, or get a bruise, perhaps a small cut, but you are not getting seriously injured until you hit 0 hp.
Sargon please read through the 5e rulebook. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been looking forward to your D&D campaign, but it's a chore to watch when evidently no one understands the rules very well. Chat was reeeing so hard about it.
The Thinkery I was reading it throughout the stream and the mechanics just started pissing me off. This game is really reluctant to kill players. I don't understand why a character dying has to be like doing taxes. In 1e if you reach 0 HP you fall unconscious and start losing HP until you reach -10. The only way to stop death is for a different character to come and heal you.
Thanks Sargon, I really appreciate it. I actually really enjoy these. 5e is streamlined and quite easy once you get into it, but I think that's a good thing to be honest. @Weeaboocrusher I wouldn't see a problem with just inserting that as the rule. GM can decide whatever they want for the rules after all. Also THAC0 - AC = Superior attack roll
Come for Vee and Arch's characters humorous and edge lord banter... and stay for that... because you sure ain't staying for Sargon's 5th ed DM skills. But I look forward to what this story becomes.
Believe it or not unless you have a god level storyteller of a DM that has encyclopedic knowledge of the game system ALL first sessions are like this. All of them.
In this episode, Vee wants to know what a rolling pin is, but he can't find out because of hentai. Meanwhile, brave Ser Arch decapitates a child with the aforementioned baking article.
Awareness = Reading the social situation, likely insight, also used for trying to to tell if someones lying. /if reading a dangerous situation, or using senses like smell or hearing, perception
So far it was fun, Vee tried to help a zombie thinking it was injured, screamed at the top of his lungs while picking up a rolling pin which summoned zombies, opened the barn doors to zombies and chopped a couple of little girls with a cleaver. So hilarious!
Yeah, to be fair Sargon you made it much harder for the two of them with your lack of understanding. Don't get me wrong, I've tried to read through that book and instead decided my friend could be dungeon master, but it's really important for the game to be smooth and enjoyable. There'd have been far less conflict between V and Arch had things been clearer for them, and the conflict wasn't enjoyable when it happened.
Arch seems to have a thing for being involved in RP games where one character is being offered up to an NPC as a sex slave. It has been threatened to be done with Arith repeatedly in the Rogue Trader RP.
+Lana Smith+ I don't recall that transaction going through since the village ended up being overrun by undead and said lumberjack might have been one of them. Or he could have died after the replacement character of Alexis got about half of the villagers killed when they ran screaming out of the gates. I still don't know the details of the hissy fit that got Alexis banned/decide to leave that happened directly after the match.
Festus got his head asploded against a rock when xanatov accidentally summoned that great unclean one so Gunter is still mourning the loss of his potential waifu.
Hey Sargon you can hold ctrl when you are dragging a template so it won't snap to the grid. Holy shit Sargon basics of dming is to learn the rules before the game. You have a responsibility to the players to do at least that much. Unarmed combat is on page 195
Looks like you guys still have your character sheets set to roll with advantage, if you want to change this in roll 20, go to the cog symbol next to your spells, bio and core tabs in the character sheet. The option to to change advantage is on the right most side of the page under 'roll queries'.
Queen Cvnt I can see why they piss sometimes and I've never played dnd (still cringe time to time when he does smt without thinking) but I feel a little like they are almost embarrassed of Vee and that's why they're so easily annoyed at him so often
Batman Wayne yeah ya right bcoz we all know sargon loves him! & maybe vee does it on purpose! Bcoz we know vee can be serious I think he might just think the game is shit & is just trying to have a laugh but there not????
Batman Wayne batmam you calm down don't know what you're talking about maybe you need to talk to Robin or the commissioner 4 gay rights just ring him on ya pink phone or send up ya virtue signal in the sky or wait 4 the snow drops to fall :)
Good timing on this one m8. Me and some lads have been doing a Starfinder campaign and I swear found a mission that was so SJW it was cringe, it basically revolved around a "problematic" University lecturer giving a race realist lecture and the media, students and his superiors were all about "Muh feels" and guess what? The GM showed us the rulebook after and it ONLY contained solutions involving getting him to apologise or publicly shame himself, as a group we immediately spotted the politics and improv'd a third option where we got the REEE-ing bitch of a Head Professor to back down and wipe the slate clean by impersonating the motherfucking Dean and told the un-suspended lecturer to make the campus great again. Felt good man. For anyone curious, the book is "Starfinder Adventure Path: Temple of the Twelve (Dead Suns 2 of 6)"
I don't own any of the books, I was just super excited about us all (GM included) finding a way to improvise a way around the bullshit modern politics in muh space adventure.
As much as I love pathfinder and starfinder Paizo is so sjw it hurts. They have messegeboards that are plainly bias and if you are not left of Stalin don't bother
how is starfinder? my group is planning to do a starfinder campaign sometime soon to take a break from the pathfinder campaign we have been doing for the past 2 yrs now
Other than the constant checking the rule book, that was pretty cool to watch. Kind of like a nice fantasy horror movie. I can even just imagine that the one guard who died first was black.
would be good if sargon tried to add a bit of atmosphere. when they turned the corner to find that guy surrounded there was no drama or anything. the fighting sequences are extremely monotonous as well. "ok that's a hit" "this guy gets attacked... and misses". get excited son
Once, one of my players was sold into slavery. As soon as this pervy old man bought her, an epic slugfest insued. All this in 1st Edition AD&D, and the narative was like that scene in Punisher when he fights the russian assassin. It was brutal, fast paced at the beginning, but near the end, both were so exhausted they had penalties on their attacks. At one point, the PC pushed the old mans head into a wash basin filled with dirty water and held him there while he slammed her ribs with his elbows. She limped into the desert victorious but with only 1 or 2 HP left. Honestly, one of the most dynamic and dramatic combats I've ever ran. This hit miss hit miss shit gets old, but it is there first couple of games so he gets a pass. And everyone else seems to still be having fun. So, meh? I wish more DM's were more expressive woth combats, but MMO culture has ruined that, I'm afraid.
This was great guys. This is the third time i have tried to watch youtubers play D&D but the only one i actually found intriguing. Great adventure! Looking forward to part 2.
I hope arch goes first and I hope it's humiliating. God what a shit. 2hrs into a game he clearly has no idea how to play and he's already calling it "shitty"
Using a horse's leg isn't the weirdest improvised weapon i've heard of, I once played a campaign of Fallout PnP where one of our party members used a Louis Vuitton handbag as an improv weapon...
i love having these play in the background while I code or am falling asleep, it gives off exactly the illusion of "there's some friends in the room with me, chatting", and it creates a nice atmosphere =D
This game was simultaneously funny and infuriating. While the players and DM haven't bothered reading the book at all, and the cleric doesn't even have "spare the dying", a 6 yo girl zombie is holding its own against a horse.
There are no tanks in D&D. There are no taunt abilities, and if you are engaged with a couple of enemies, there is no way to prevent something from attacking your squishy characters. No tanks, no dps, no dedicated healers. This isn't a video game.
But i remember hearing about some sort of magic clothing article that makes enemies less likely to target you. Theres also simply narrative reasoning. If you have a dude with a big scary greatsword in full plate and another guy that's dressed in light rags that has a shitty dagger (because why would you choose to dress like a mage or squishy so you can draw attention to yourself) then they're more likely going to prioritize the knight that's in their faces. Thats assuming your DM uses logic to target players in their encounters and not meta knowledge on who they need to kill first to most likely get a TPK. I guess i wouldnt know since i haven't started DMing just yet, but i'm researching!
Actually, if you were fighting, say, a gang of goblins, why on earth would they go for the dude with all the armour? It's a hell of a lot easier to sink a knife into cloth than steel. Logic would dictate wanting to fight the weaker opponent. Obviously that can change based on context, if you're fighting a clan of orcs who live in an honour based society, and so want to challenge the strongest opponent. Logically, however, enemies will, if possible, go for the softest targets.
Sargon, you really should've just played 3.5e instead, you're clearly not satisfied with 5e, nor are you familiar with the rules. It would actually be interesting to see someone playing something other than 5e for once. I kinda like 3.5, even though i cannot defend it, it's a bloody mess and spellcasting is stupidly OP, but it's a lot of fun as long as you agree not to munchkin, and you expect things to get silly.
Yeah, but most people consider 3.5 too slow an rules heavy to have fun. I get what they are talking about, but it doesn't bother me, you just have to make sure you play with people who know the rules, and then you can have tons of silly fun. Of course Pathfinder is overall superior to 3.5e, but sometimes it's fun to revisit an old edition.
Yes, Pathfinder is my favorite system. But 5e is pretty good when you consider what it sets out to do. It wants to make things more simple, and feel more like older editions. And i think it succeeds, and it's still a fun system to play.. unlike 4th edition..
It's been a while since I read the rules for this, but isn't there a "disengage" action to allow you to move away from an enemy without giving them an attack of opportunity?
Look can you guys please find someone who knows 5th ed even if they don’t play with you, to just have them there to correct you on things you don’t know.
Just gonna put this out there but Sargon, if you are more familiar with 3.5 and that ruleset. You guys could play Pathfinder. It is essentially 3.5 with alot of rule tweaks. You seem to be having a problem with 5E. Many people like it but I prefer a more numbers based system. Pathfinder could work for you. Plus pretty much all the rules and books are available online. So you would only have to buy what you wanted to have physical copies of. I know I'm gonna get shit for this comment from all the 5E kids. But I don't care.
Pathfinder's ruleset is VERY similar to 3.5's. Started as near enough a direct copy, but a few books have came out in the past few years to try and change things a bit more, however the core rules are almost 1:1 3.5.
Tbh 1d8 damage at level one is not overpowered when compared to actual martial weapons. Infinite cantrips are equivalent to any ranged/melee attack, which are also infinite.
My chief love of this is Vee. But my pet peeve of any edition of a D&D game is "roll perception" 50 fucking times to find a table. Or roll this or that, for something completely unnecessary. It bogs the game down and the player's feel like weak losers for failing to break a peasants chair. A chair. CHAIR. Anyway, loved the video.
really thought you guys would have prepared slightly more since the character creation stream... I mean, at least looking up such things as proficiency, skill checks and ability checks and Spell Casting (For the love of God! Read up on Cantrips and Spell Casting!) Before the stream. The story and rollplay was funny as all hell, really nice, but ya'll really should read through the basic rules for next time, or check out a youtube video on 5th edition rules at least, since, ya know, ya'll are TH-camrs and all :) Still, looking forward to next session! I hope this lasts without complications! And Thank You all for sharing your fun with us in the audience. :D
Are we sure Vee isn't one of the muslim orcs? I mean he DID yell "In the name of the prophet!" while bashing some pesants face in with a cleaver... just saying..
LOOK AT THESE FUCKING PRODUCTION VALUES THO!
I like it
The thought of you actually sitting there typing this out makes me happy for some odd reason
the helgen of this years skyrim.
I absolutely love the fan art mate.
Hey, if you want any help or resources for roll20 to up your Production™ Value™ drop me a line, fam.
"Okay, a horse has an attack value of 1d6+4, but because it's alive and you have no training in handling it I'd give you a heavy penalty to hit chance. If you had a sword or another weapon longer than a knife or a dagger, I'd give you a bonus to damage and hit chance because of height advantage, but you don't, so I don't recommend using the horse."
A more elegant way of doing things, isn't it? Remember that you're the DM. Just make shit up. You don't know how much damage a cleaver will do? Make it up. What do you have to roll to ride a horse? Make it up. Are there gonna be penalties for that because the ydon't have the skill, because it's night, because the horses are spooked? If you want. What is that penalty? Make it up. Make. Shit. Up.
The way you're DMing, you could for example send the two a troll to fight. So Vee has the idea to prepare a trap by dragging a boulder up a hill to smash him Wile E Coqote style. He then lures the troll to the trap and tells you that he wants to set it off. You look in the rulebook and you can't find boulder related attacks, so you tell him he just can't do it. You didn't tell him that before he lured the troll to the trap though and the troll still appears and effortlessly kills him. While the troll rips Vee apart and gnaws on his insides, Arch makes a couple of snarky comments and else does nothing.
The point of a DM in roleplaying is to make the world come alive. Maybe Vee is too weak to drag the boulder up a hill. Maybe he doesn't know how to prepare the trap. Maybe he's too slow to lure the troll. All valid reasons for why this could fail, but don't tell a player something can happen only to just tell him "nope" in the last second; and if the problem is that you can't find anything in the rulebook, for the love of god just _make shit up._
5e is EASIER Just the verbiage changed
Hold on wait what should Sargon do? I didn't quite get it.
You guys give Vee shit, but he's doing the better roleplaying there
Vee is legit super intelligent, no troll.
It's amazing, the Diversity Hire Cleric ends up killing practically every monster, saves the life of the blind NPC, somehow escapes with 1 life point and a prayer book he doesn't understand because he starts with only 1 in Religion.
Sounds like Vee alright.
Hey, for once a diversity hire was actually the MOST useful in the field. Good job, Vee.
Still doesn't beat my mad scientist noble eldritch knight who is married to a dragon wields a rocket powered minotaur's axe with his best friend a minotaur paladin with a flamethrower and male elf cleric who is perpetually confused at the state affairs.
Children are attacking the priest... They are clearly looking for revenge.
TheDCVTitan HAHAHAHAHA
Let me quote one of my favorite songs from Seven Witches here "Hell, hell is for children!"
Pat Benatar did that song originally
"Well, he doesn't APPEAR to be Jewish."
Demonhornz the Jews don't APPEAR to controll the media
I don't really care if you guys follow the rules to the letter. As a gamemaster it's your job to interpret the rules in such a way as to benefit the gaming experience. In my opinion at least.
Knut Mikael Haukeland exactly
Or they could just play a game with proper rules like *cough cough* *_PATHFINDER_* *cough cough*
while i agree with you, they don't seem to have had a discussion on what rules to use and not, and how, before the game which makes a bit of an chaotic play. Making it up as u go along when it comes to rules is a bit... at least if it is all the time and not some special circumstance house ruling stuff.
Of course it would help if Sargon was more familiar with the rules. Basic thing like knowing what the skills do would help a lot... :D
I'm just saying that it's ok for the GM to make a judgement call to move the game along, then look up the actual rules later.
Knut Mikael Haukeland agreed, especially in this setting where I would guess the guys are tight on time as it is. These are after all busy dudes who don't have normal workhours :)
Shitting on Vee from the first minute. Vee is a beautiful princess who did nothing wrong.
FishBallista same tbh
"Blaming is pointless"... stops to blame vee every few minutes lol
Especially since he was wrong about few things himself but goes to any length to argue that he was right and wee is an idiot.
@Azoth Ace i stand with vee
Layman is doing a Sargon doesn't understand 5th edition vid I believe :)
spunkymonkeySK _ that will be a very good video tbqh, it may even reach peak intellectualism
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand 5th edition. The mechanics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the nuances will go over a typical player’s head.
Demaenetus Remigius - Finally! Someone who's cultured!
I know plenty of complete morons who basically only speak in fluent 5E
He better be.
I love you Sargon but this was painful. I did see you were going to thoroughly read the book so that's good.
I can't blame you, it is your first time playing 5e, my best advice, don't be afraid to call a rule. If you don't understand a rule make it up.
Also listen to vee a bit more, a lot of what he says is right but y'all dismiss it cuz he's vee
Vee is actually trying to make this game fun, but he is playing with two try-hards.
Was the same in Cyberpunk too. Vee is a surprisingly good roleplayer.
Vee is a good roleplayer but was not making good calls for almost all of this, rolled improperly, didn't use line of sight, didn't understand his spells, didn't understand how his class worked in this or session zero and kept rule lawyering things he didn't even understand. They're all atrocious at 5e the last two sessions but there's nothing elevating Vee here besides good luck with his rolls in combat and his crazy cleric of charisma rp.
Matthew Dylla I only watched half this one, but when you have a dm the fundamentally doesn't understand the system you need someone too rules lawyer. A lot "at least that I can remember, I haven't watched since my post" of the stuff vee would say was right "not all tho".
Tbh I'm disappointed in how little they prepared for this. I was really excited.
Tho like in my first post I don't blame them at all. This is their first time.
My first time I was AWEFUL. As I'm sure we all were. They'll get better, I just want them to stop being so rude to vee
Can someone start a counter of times Vee was right but got yelled at?
Sargon really is a jerk.
That’s why we love them
Sargon beats his offspring. - Arch 2017
This post didnt age well
He get done for child abuse or something?
Someone needs to do a debunking video on sargons doesn't understand Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition these last 2 sessions have been like watching Anita Sarkissian play video games.
this is years long D&D journalism levels of rules comprehension, not even the CupHead tutorial can come this close
They definitely do. The 5e system is really very different to what I'm used to. It's heartbreaking in some places.
i think the main problem is that sargon directs the players too much. the dm is supposed to be impartial, sort of... the dm is always able to adapt the rules to suit his campaign but those interpretations should be agreed upon before the campaign is begun. sargon is turning into a megalomaniac irl and it is affecting his dm style. hubris will not be kind to him. personally, i like him and hope the fall from grace is not too painful when it comes.
That's just mean. Accurate...... but mean.
"Like watching Anita Sarkeesian play video games." Surely that's uncalled for. Especially since I don't think Anita Sarkeesian ever actually played any video games. But I digress.
Play 2nd edition. It was sleek and simple and worked just fine. Hell, I used to run great campaigns in the late 1980s out of the old AD&D manuals from the late 70s and 1 each of the d4, 6, 8, 10, 12 and 20. No rules lawyers, no b.s. It worked just fine and we had a blast.
6 minutes in. Arch SAYS he spots a woman with a large rack. And you don't make him roll a perception check? What the hell sort of campaign are you running here?
ericv00
"I spot a magical floating glowing sword, promptly grabbing it by the hilt!"
ericv00 human males always pass the perception check for spotting large breasts.
Don't you mean a privilege check!?
Dean Campos, sure but do they always pass the perception check for spotting traps?
Om Lo he saw the woman as a token on the board. He as a player could see it, not he as a character
ARCH really needs to let things go. He keeps think he knows best and blaming Vee as if Arch was right all along. Arch sent Vee to investigate the first zombie. Arch is the one that stopped them going straight for the horses. Vee wanted to run from the start and Arch stopped him. Arch stopped Vee from running from the inn after Vee started screaming. Lastly, Arch is the most cowardly fighter ever. He lets Vee tank everything when it is obvious that these enemies are really weak. Yes Vee shouldnt be afraid of kitchens and start screaming for help but Arch is playing like his character is made of paper.
Also JUST PUNCH THINGS guys! How hard is it to just bottle neck these enemies and just wail on them! Arch you had a horse for HP soak... And you just run like a coward... You are a fighter.
Arch even then blames Vee for not checking his rolls and telling him he was doing it wrong instead of the GM...
Finally we have the best bit:
Arch: Yeah we didnt need to fight in the barn at all. We could have just run away.
Vee: Well i wanted to run away from the start.
Arch: But then we would have been surrounded.
Arch was playing so timidly early on and Vee tanked everything so Arch was able to get his horse. Then after doing all that Arch realises he can actually kill things but does nothing but putting blame on Yee for stupid reasons. Yelling for help in the kitchen is the only thing Vee did wrong, that and his obession with NPCs praising him. Everything else was Arches cowardice.
MDRLOz it definitely does not help that vee and arch both want to play ranged.
To be fair, you have to a very high IQ to understand Arch.
But seriously, I think he's being in-character somewhat with that portrayal of a noble. "Go investigate the zombie, peasant."
I honestly couldn't tell if Arch was in character playing a snobby ass, or if he's just like that. I thought Vee was the only dude I'd want at my gaming table. He's actually role playing his character.
Vee's character is amazing. Too bad Comrade Sargon is such an authoritarian, railroading GM...
Agreed.
Rohan Mostert be nice, sargon has his reasons K
Doesn't help that Sargon didn't read the significant rule changes, like infinite cantrips...
Cantrips are Unlimited
Not just the cantrips, but did you know you need to prepare the spell only once, and cast it as many times as you have spell slots??? What devilry is this Amish ???
@animusu 5e making spellcasting less of a nightmare, rules wise. Especially for muticlassing
Indeed my friend, just that "ye-that-shan't-be-named" might have had too much 3.5 "impressions" that did not turn out to be.... Seriously, someone needs to explain the rules to them properly....
I like the change to spell preparation, you don't just wake up and forget how to cast spells anymore or forget how to use it as soon as you cast it. You are still locked in on your prepared spells unless you spend the time to change them.
Pathfinder is better.
Vee has a fun character to play with. He's not your standard by the book, capitalize on your stats, cookie cutter cleric and is instead this flawed human with different strengths. Let him play the role he's envisioned for himself and you might be surprised what he can accomplish. Either way! He's more fun than your boring run of the mill character.
"different strengths". IE no strengths and all weaknesses. He's "special".
That special cleric managed to kill half the village while being hamstrung on his cantrips.
"How dare you have fun without having completely memorizing my preferred set of rules!" D&REEEE
More like, "how dare you pathetically flounder around, arguing and stumbling over the rules that you literally didn't bother reading". Vee didn't read the book, Arch didn't read the book, and Sargon skimmed it 6 months ago and forgot most of it. This isn't a problem of memorization, this is going in for a test without reading the material. They should have just played Pathfinder, they'd understand the rules much more and wouldn't have spent an hour figuring out stuff they should have already known.
It's been awhile but I've DM'd a few campaigns. When these things would come up I would fudge it to something that makes some kind of sense (that the players can mostly agree to) and then address the proper rules at the beginning of the next session in a recap/housekeeping phase. (we did it this way last time, the books says this.) The important thing is keeping the story/session going and having fun rather than rifling through a manual.
Let them plow through the undead on horseback (if they calmed the horses). Do a dex check to see if the undead get knocked over. If knocked over roll an attack to see if they take damage from the hooves. If an undead doesn't get knocked over, roll an attack to see if they cling to horse and try to clamber up to get at the riders. Crits give a chance to trip up the horse or knock the rider off.
I personally think it's better to be nimble and creative rather than shackled to a rule book but other's mileage may vary depending on the personalities of the players.
There were some hitches here and there but overall they seemed to be having fun so no harm done.
The problem is that they'd have to fudge ALL the rules. They didn't even do the simple attack rules correctly until the end. And yeah, no real harm done. Most people's problem is that they spent most of the session complaining about the rules.
"Actually, if you were fighting, say, a gang of goblins, why on earth would they go for the dude with all the armour?"
They don't have to. It'd just be at disadvantage, because the fighter (TANK) would have chosen the protection fighting style forcing enemies in his line of sight to attack at disadvantage against him.
I mean for fucks sake kiddo, fighter class fighting style is done at level 1. Do you even know what you're talking about?
Legit, Paladin info from ADND1e
The cavalier paladin may parry up to two opponents (one with each hand, whether by shield or by weapon). A weapon parry reduces all of the (single) opponent's attack rolls by all of the cavalier's to hit bonuses (including strength, magic, weapon of choice) for that round; a shield parry reduces all of (single) opponent's attack rolls by one, and an additional reduction of one for each +1 of the shield. A cavalier parrying with the shield may not include the shield in his armor class against any other attacks (i.e., from other opponents) during that round; a character parrying with a weapon may not use that weapon to attack during that round. (Arcana rules do not permit a character to attack and parry in the same round; MyWorld rules permit the character to attack with any weapon not used to parry.) The choice to parry with the shield costs the cavalier one attack, as his attention must be given to blocking the opponent's moves.
What's a tank again?
Ah, I don't play 5e. Didn't realize they made it a video game.
"Arch rides past, knocking this girl's head off" and the game of polo was invented.
D&D Crusaders Episode 1: Attack of the Drunken Peasants
What a situation!
Hey Sargon, a thing I see on D&D streams (especially with new/newer DMs) is that the DM has a D&D "senpai" on hand. Someone that isn't actually a part of the campaign, but is a master when it comes to rules and all that kind of stuff. So instead of shuffling through books breaking the momentum, they'll quickly shoot a message to the senpai (usually through a text based message, and only the DM can do this) and the senpai will message back with the correct actions to take. However The DM always has the last ruling no matter what. I'm sure you can find someone that will be willing to be your "senpai" especially with your reach. If they're running their own campaign, maybe just give them a shoutout at the end of the video. Just an idea I thought I'd throw out there.
My group irl has this. We'll use roll20 but are still in person. Our DM is competent and creative, but he has a secondary friend/co-worker who has one other group he has been DM of forever. This guy helps remind him of certain specific rules, and the few times we've had new members he's helped usher them in and create their character's place in the campaign. Including me. We're a group of seven and it's a blast.
The secondary help also makes things move at a better pace and encourages role playing.
What if you’re waxing on, while senpai is waxing off?
1:53:51 "It's not my job to act as your memory" -Sargon
Couldn't Vee make an int roll and potentially have Sargon act as his memory tho?
Also for all the shit Vee's been getting for his charisma, he should be able to convince Deem to lend his sword or something.
God, after my last game it's so satisfying to see a DM that actually understands how to handle nobility. My last DM constantly ignored that peasants aren't supposed to fuck with the nobility. Really gimped my inquisitor-style Paladin Lord character. Couldn't RP right at all with that shit.
By the way Arch, next time when you're asked to pay for beer use bluff/intimidate to act insulted and give a dirty look to incite an offer for free beer.
26:30
No, no you racist, the finnish knights would just sit silently in a sauna. You're thinking of the swedish knights.
I have no idea how DD works...but this is entertaining
Apparently neither does Sargon so don't worry :^)
Lol arch can't pay attention to anything, Vee was his memory.
Changing rests from a day to a week just means that your story is now moving 7 times slower.
If you don't like wounds magically healing think of it like this, it's not that you actually take damage, it's just an indicator of your overal stamina in the fight, so you'll grow tired, or get a bruise, perhaps a small cut, but you are not getting seriously injured until you hit 0 hp.
Sargon please read through the 5e rulebook. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been looking forward to your D&D campaign, but it's a chore to watch when evidently no one understands the rules very well. Chat was reeeing so hard about it.
Calake right? 5th edition is garbage to play
Man loads has changed since 3.5. I did breeze through it like 6 months ago, but I will go over it more thoroughly.
The Thinkery I was reading it throughout the stream and the mechanics just started pissing me off. This game is really reluctant to kill players. I don't understand why a character dying has to be like doing taxes. In 1e if you reach 0 HP you fall unconscious and start losing HP until you reach -10. The only way to stop death is for a different character to come and heal you.
Thanks Sargon, I really appreciate it. I actually really enjoy these. 5e is streamlined and quite easy once you get into it, but I think that's a good thing to be honest. @Weeaboocrusher I wouldn't see a problem with just inserting that as the rule. GM can decide whatever they want for the rules after all.
Also THAC0 - AC = Superior attack roll
They're more like guidelines than actual rules..
I listened to this while driving through Auckland NZ, I laughed so hard I had to pull over on the motorway to avoid crashing!
Come for Vee and Arch's characters humorous and edge lord banter... and stay for that... because you sure ain't staying for Sargon's 5th ed DM skills. But I look forward to what this story becomes.
Believe it or not unless you have a god level storyteller of a DM that has encyclopedic knowledge of the game system ALL first sessions are like this. All of them.
Use character names all the time. It keeps everyone in the game and maintains role playing.
In this episode, Vee wants to know what a rolling pin is, but he can't find out because of hentai. Meanwhile, brave Ser Arch decapitates a child with the aforementioned baking article.
Awareness = Reading the social situation, likely insight, also used for trying to to tell if someones lying. /if reading a dangerous situation, or using senses like smell or hearing, perception
So far it was fun, Vee tried to help a zombie thinking it was injured, screamed at the top of his lungs while picking up a rolling pin which summoned zombies, opened the barn doors to zombies and chopped a couple of little girls with a cleaver. So hilarious!
Infinite cantrips™
#CantripLivesDontMatter
gypsy uses perception on food preperation device
..... .....
(taa daa fanfare) gypsy discovers rolling pin!!
Yeah, to be fair Sargon you made it much harder for the two of them with your lack of understanding. Don't get me wrong, I've tried to read through that book and instead decided my friend could be dungeon master, but it's really important for the game to be smooth and enjoyable. There'd have been far less conflict between V and Arch had things been clearer for them, and the conflict wasn't enjoyable when it happened.
"These peasants look emaciated."
DID YOU JUST ASSUME THEIR NUTRITIONAL INTAKE??????
Read the book. For the love of Kek, read the fucking book.
Arch seems to have a thing for being involved in RP games where one character is being offered up to an NPC as a sex slave. It has been threatened to be done with Arith repeatedly in the Rogue Trader RP.
cnlbenmc not to mention that players previous character which was actually sold as a wife to a Burley German lumberjack
+Lana Smith+ I don't recall that transaction going through since the village ended up being overrun by undead and said lumberjack might have been one of them. Or he could have died after the replacement character of Alexis got about half of the villagers killed when they ran screaming out of the gates. I still don't know the details of the hissy fit that got Alexis banned/decide to leave that happened directly after the match.
Festus got his head asploded against a rock when xanatov accidentally summoned that great unclean one so Gunter is still mourning the loss of his potential waifu.
+PhantomPh1re+ then he comes back as a zombie and only succeeded at shooting one of his zombie allies in the back of the head.
lmao My friend Sam once raped a shopkeep, who liked it but had gonorrhea, so he killed the shopkeep.
God, game barely starts and Arch is already whining that he treated Charisma as a dump stat.
I like how Vee is in the barn and Arch is on the roof of another building, and they are discussing tactics.....
Are they yelling or something?
Hey Sargon you can hold ctrl when you are dragging a template so it won't snap to the grid.
Holy shit Sargon basics of dming is to learn the rules before the game. You have a responsibility to the players to do at least that much.
Unarmed combat is on page 195
Looks like you guys still have your character sheets set to roll with advantage, if you want to change this in roll 20, go to the cog symbol next to your spells, bio and core tabs in the character sheet. The option to to change advantage is on the right most side of the page under 'roll queries'.
Any body else think sargon & arch are taking it to seriously and being a bit harsh on Vee because he's just having fun?
Queen Cvnt I can see why they piss sometimes and I've never played dnd (still cringe time to time when he does smt without thinking) but I feel a little like they are almost embarrassed of Vee and that's why they're so easily annoyed at him so often
Batman Wayne yeah ya right bcoz we all know sargon loves him! & maybe vee does it on purpose! Bcoz we know vee can be serious I think he might just think the game is shit & is just trying to have a laugh but there not????
Batman Wayne batmam you calm down don't know what you're talking about maybe you need to talk to Robin or the commissioner 4 gay rights just ring him on ya pink phone or send up ya virtue signal in the sky or wait 4 the snow drops to fall :)
Batman Wayne p.s. go ass whistle some where else Wayne
Arch only dates straight men.
Good timing on this one m8.
Me and some lads have been doing a Starfinder campaign and I swear found a mission that was so SJW it was cringe, it basically revolved around a "problematic" University lecturer giving a race realist lecture and the media, students and his superiors were all about "Muh feels" and guess what? The GM showed us the rulebook after and it ONLY contained solutions involving getting him to apologise or publicly shame himself, as a group we immediately spotted the politics and improv'd a third option where we got the REEE-ing bitch of a Head Professor to back down and wipe the slate clean by impersonating the motherfucking Dean and told the un-suspended lecturer to make the campus great again.
Felt good man.
For anyone curious, the book is "Starfinder Adventure Path: Temple of the Twelve (Dead Suns 2 of 6)"
Want more cringe? Wrath of the Righteous Adventure Path Book 1 (The Worldwound Incursion), page 56. Read that backstory and weep.
I don't own any of the books, I was just super excited about us all (GM included) finding a way to improvise a way around the bullshit modern politics in muh space adventure.
Luchs, as a sane person I'm going to assume this is a joke.
As much as I love pathfinder and starfinder Paizo is so sjw it hurts. They have messegeboards that are plainly bias and if you are not left of Stalin don't bother
how is starfinder? my group is planning to do a starfinder campaign sometime soon to take a break from the pathfinder campaign we have been doing for the past 2 yrs now
GOLD PURE GOLD< THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STARTING THE D&D CAMPAIGN!! WOOOO!!!
Guys some of the comments at the start of the stream regarding women were problematic. Were going to need to unpack them in the next stream
The comments or the women?
The women obviously.
Other than the constant checking the rule book, that was pretty cool to watch. Kind of like a nice fantasy horror movie. I can even just imagine that the one guard who died first was black.
Every time they say "You can only use cantrips 3 times" a little part of my soul died.
would be good if sargon tried to add a bit of atmosphere. when they turned the corner to find that guy surrounded there was no drama or anything. the fighting sequences are extremely monotonous as well. "ok that's a hit" "this guy gets attacked... and misses". get excited son
Once, one of my players was sold into slavery. As soon as this pervy old man bought her, an epic slugfest insued. All this in 1st Edition AD&D, and the narative was like that scene in Punisher when he fights the russian assassin. It was brutal, fast paced at the beginning, but near the end, both were so exhausted they had penalties on their attacks. At one point, the PC pushed the old mans head into a wash basin filled with dirty water and held him there while he slammed her ribs with his elbows. She limped into the desert victorious but with only 1 or 2 HP left.
Honestly, one of the most dynamic and dramatic combats I've ever ran.
This hit miss hit miss shit gets old, but it is there first couple of games so he gets a pass. And everyone else seems to still be having fun. So, meh?
I wish more DM's were more expressive woth combats, but MMO culture has ruined that, I'm afraid.
I think Arch should get a bonus feat for his role playing this game. Favored enemy: child.
In today’s adventure our three brave Adventurers mount a horse and argue about the benefits and merits of mounting said horse
I wish my group had a Vee to just shit on at every opportunity.
This was great guys. This is the third time i have tried to watch youtubers play D&D but the only one i actually found intriguing. Great adventure! Looking forward to part 2.
Cantrips are 100% straight, my dudes
Excuse me, there are an infinite number of cantrips, and an infinite number of cantrip sexualities.
Who wants to place bets on how long before Arch and Vee are dead?
Justin Parsons thanks for the spoilers. I thought they were going to die in this one
I hope arch goes first and I hope it's humiliating. God what a shit. 2hrs into a game he clearly has no idea how to play and he's already calling it "shitty"
I love how Vees mind immediately goes to stealing horses, what with him being a gypsy and all
so fucken happy this is back
Using a horse's leg isn't the weirdest improvised weapon i've heard of, I once played a campaign of Fallout PnP where one of our party members used a Louis Vuitton handbag as an improv weapon...
Sargon, why did you go for 5th edition instead of pathfinder?
i love having these play in the background while I code or am falling asleep, it gives off exactly the illusion of "there's some friends in the room with me, chatting", and it creates a nice atmosphere =D
#Notallorcs
Just most orcs.
Bloody hell Sargon, you ran a campaign where the characters start unarmed and didn't look up the unarmed combat rules?
I don't think he looked up anything honestly, the further this goes on the clearer it becomes.
Why did nobody search the stable for a pitchfork or a hammer :)
A common room would of been used for groups of people who sleep in. They would have basic cots and straw based beddings spaced around the room.
"Holy fuck, spellcasters can do 1d8 damage, that's so OP."
Wait until Sargon finds out Fighters with a 1 handed weapon can do 1d8+Strength Mod.
poor horse got left behind and prob died :(
This game was simultaneously funny and infuriating. While the players and DM haven't bothered reading the book at all, and the cleric doesn't even have "spare the dying", a 6 yo girl zombie is holding its own against a horse.
Man,arch is the most useless tank.
There are no tanks in D&D. There are no taunt abilities, and if you are engaged with a couple of enemies, there is no way to prevent something from attacking your squishy characters. No tanks, no dps, no dedicated healers. This isn't a video game.
But i remember hearing about some sort of magic clothing article that makes enemies less likely to target you. Theres also simply narrative reasoning. If you have a dude with a big scary greatsword in full plate and another guy that's dressed in light rags that has a shitty dagger (because why would you choose to dress like a mage or squishy so you can draw attention to yourself) then they're more likely going to prioritize the knight that's in their faces.
Thats assuming your DM uses logic to target players in their encounters and not meta knowledge on who they need to kill first to most likely get a TPK.
I guess i wouldnt know since i haven't started DMing just yet, but i'm researching!
Actually, if you were fighting, say, a gang of goblins, why on earth would they go for the dude with all the armour? It's a hell of a lot easier to sink a knife into cloth than steel. Logic would dictate wanting to fight the weaker opponent. Obviously that can change based on context, if you're fighting a clan of orcs who live in an honour based society, and so want to challenge the strongest opponent. Logically, however, enemies will, if possible, go for the softest targets.
Sargon, you really should've just played 3.5e instead, you're clearly not satisfied with 5e, nor are you familiar with the rules. It would actually be interesting to see someone playing something other than 5e for once.
I kinda like 3.5, even though i cannot defend it, it's a bloody mess and spellcasting is stupidly OP, but it's a lot of fun as long as you agree not to munchkin, and you expect things to get silly.
Isn't having fun the whole point?
Go back to the barn Chicken, and make me an In Nomine character /glares angrily
Yeah, but most people consider 3.5 too slow an rules heavy to have fun. I get what they are talking about, but it doesn't bother me, you just have to make sure you play with people who know the rules, and then you can have tons of silly fun.
Of course Pathfinder is overall superior to 3.5e, but sometimes it's fun to revisit an old edition.
The Devil Chicken they need to play Pathfinder, it's just refined 3.5
Yes, Pathfinder is my favorite system. But 5e is pretty good when you consider what it sets out to do. It wants to make things more simple, and feel more like older editions. And i think it succeeds, and it's still a fun system to play..
unlike 4th edition..
The horse's leg.. LMAO XD
He didnt cast sacred flame because he wouldnt be seen 😂😂 I would give a point of inspiration for that one.
Cantrips 💪🤘
It's been a while since I read the rules for this, but isn't there a "disengage" action to allow you to move away from an enemy without giving them an attack of opportunity?
"You dont get any advantage on the horse but you look cool" lol im going through an rpg where being cool is status effect
Summary
Player: I want to do this.
Sargon: I won't allow that, you have to follow the rules.
Player: What are the rules?
Sargon: I don't know.
Yeah he's such an odd DM, very controlling all round. All while not knowing the rules...
Look can you guys please find someone who knows 5th ed even if they don’t play with you, to just have them there to correct you on things you don’t know.
1:49:00 "A little girl attacks you" .. Vee ... Vee ... tell her to not be so bossy!! It will cripple her for life!
Some heavy rules lawyering. My games are far more based on role playing improve.
Why does this video only play for 2 hours when the stream was 4 hours?
it does that with streams it just finished recently it will fix it self after a while
It says 4 hours before clicking, and 2 hours afterwards. Best return tomorrow lads.
Aaaaaahhhh Good old RPG. This is very entertaining
Keep em coming
Trump moved Israel's capital inland in response **laughing uncontrollably**
Just gonna put this out there but Sargon, if you are more familiar with 3.5 and that ruleset. You guys could play Pathfinder. It is essentially 3.5 with alot of rule tweaks. You seem to be having a problem with 5E. Many people like it but I prefer a more numbers based system. Pathfinder could work for you. Plus pretty much all the rules and books are available online. So you would only have to buy what you wanted to have physical copies of. I know I'm gonna get shit for this comment from all the 5E kids. But I don't care.
pathfinder doesn't use the 3.5 rule set anymore
I'm playing in a game right now. It is still quite similar to 3.5
Pathfinder's ruleset is VERY similar to 3.5's. Started as near enough a direct copy, but a few books have came out in the past few years to try and change things a bit more, however the core rules are almost 1:1 3.5.
Yes it is. Thank you.
Pathfinder is known as DND 3.6
Tbh 1d8 damage at level one is not overpowered when compared to actual martial weapons. Infinite cantrips are equivalent to any ranged/melee attack, which are also infinite.
Unless you run out of arrows
True
Yeah... My rapier at 1 does that... Course, Sargon started the team with nothing at all and had the shops closed for the festival.
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO JERUSALEM?
DEUS VULT
DEUS VULT
DEUS VULT
DEUS VULT
As soon as the God-Emperor wills it.
Still not at Jerusalem... just to let you know...
Vee should have grabbed the other horse, all the enemies near it were dead anyway
Also no point going back to search that village, it probably no longer exists, Vee did throw a lit torch into a wooden building in the middle of town.
@@blazetooth1
Like the great squirrel fire of '68.
Still haunts me.
Arch Childbreaker
Ah finally, I found something to fill the void between my group's D&D sessions.
My chief love of this is Vee.
But my pet peeve of any edition of a D&D game is "roll perception" 50 fucking times to find a table. Or roll this or that, for something completely unnecessary. It bogs the game down and the player's feel like weak losers for failing to break a peasants chair. A chair. CHAIR.
Anyway, loved the video.
really thought you guys would have prepared slightly more since the character creation stream... I mean, at least looking up such things as proficiency, skill checks and ability checks and Spell Casting (For the love of God! Read up on Cantrips and Spell Casting!) Before the stream. The story and rollplay was funny as all hell, really nice, but ya'll really should read through the basic rules for next time, or check out a youtube video on 5th edition rules at least, since, ya know, ya'll are TH-camrs and all :)
Still, looking forward to next session! I hope this lasts without complications! And Thank You all for sharing your fun with us in the audience. :D
Are we sure Vee isn't one of the muslim orcs?
I mean he DID yell "In the name of the prophet!" while bashing some pesants face in with a cleaver... just saying..
Laurel Stevenson: "Can you please quiet down? You're scaring the little girl."
Mr. Toomy: "Scaring the little girl? SCARING THE LITTLE GIRL? LADY!"
So what should Arch name his blood soaked Rolling Pin? I think that the Orphan-Maker has a nice ring to it.
The Orphanage for the rolling pin and the Post Birth Abortion for the cleaver.
peasantry is always liberated from the same thing - all their possessions.
cantrips you can cast them alwase in 5e (the have no nummer of uses)
Sargon: "People are saying cantrips are infinite, I don't think that's true."
Me: *Shrieks in nerd*
(Sad falcor sounds)