One of the most interesting points of Banjo and Conker is how each game influenced each other: Conker was the first to create the Mario 64 esque 3D platformer which inspired the Dream team to make Banjo Kazooie and surprisingly they were able to get BK done before Conker despite having to start from the ground up, to the point where the Conker team had to redo Conker into becoming Bad Fur Day out of fear of being to similar too Banjo Kazooie.
In the video the narrator talks of the transition between the Donkey Kong Country games and Banjo-Kazooie, and you can see throughout the trilogy Rare developing their own style and characters more and more. Of particular note in my view, are the Brothers Bears of Donkey Kong Country 3. Not only is Banjo designed in a somewhat similar fashion to these bears, but those characters provided the small RPG elements of DKC3, the genre that according to the video, Banjo-Kazooie was originally going to be.
It is said that in the years after Rare was bought out, they were unable to recreate the magic of their titles from the 90's. But what about Playtonic? Were they able to reignite the magic? One thing is certain, there was defiantly a spark when Sakurai and Kirkhope brought Banjo to Smash.
@@twitchywitchx Not helping matters is that Gregg Mayles wasn't involved. What is a Banjo game without Gregg?????? That's like having Metal Gear without Hideo Kojima.
I wasn’t alive in the 90s(I just turned 18) but man Banjo Kazooie and Tooie are just some real fun games to play even years after the N64. Hoping we get Banjo Tooie on N64 online
I knew about Banjo cause of Jon Tron (oof) and also wasn’t born in the 90s,I’m a bit older than you but that doesn’t matter. I want to try these games one day
I’m 16, I only know of Banjo Kazooie because of the Nintendo youtubers I watch like Aaron. I remember them all saying they wanted Banjo in smash and it was kinda wholesome at the time seeing they way the all reacted to it
Ive seen alot of videos about project dream turning into banjo, and i actually like your video alot as you also start on the rare companys origin and included one of my favorite games jetpack.
@@ricardocantoral7672 The people who made Hat in Time said that Dk 64 is to blame for collect a thons being less popular in the modern day. This is why Nuts and Blots made fun of themselves because journalists really hate DK 64.
@@orangeslash1667 Even though a lot of people didn't like how much it crapped on Banjo Kazooie when one of its lines was "All people want to do is shoot at things" which, sure, was what a lot of people were playing at the time, but it just felt like a low blow for people who were so desperately clinging on to that chance that Banjo Kazooie would be a return to the platforming glory days.
Im wondering if the concept of having a guy, a woman he's associated with, and their dog as playable characters was recycled by Rare for their Jet Force Jemini game on the N64
Honestly I didn't know about the planned post game event where you take control of Tootie and to restore the now recently transformed Banjo and Kazooie out of their Frog Forms, could've been a fun addition.
Huh so the development cycle was essentially, if you have a hammer and the head breaks and you replace it then sometime later the handle breaks and you replace that you have a completely different hammer than the one you started with. Super interesting video! Defs earned a sub.
Man I love seeing some non-Smash content! Don't get me wrong, I love the content for Smash you've pumped out over the years, but now that it's over I'm so happy to see you branching off like this. Excited to see what's to come!
BK64 was one of my first three games I got around Christmas '97. The others being Diddy Kong Racing, and the SM64 which came prebundled on release. Banjo just moved differently than Mario. He had more "moves," and more "forms" to consider that required multiple controller inputs. You felt "smart" playing Banjo, and you felt slick to play Mario.
I didn't love the remasters because the cutscene music and sound effects were originally lined up with the n64s lag in mind, and the remasters were done a bit lazily in that when the lag was eliminated nothing was done to fix the audio desync. I found that the remasters kind of killed a lot of the atmosphere and comedic timing because of that. So to call them the best way to experience the game? I'm not so sure.
Thanks for this awesome video. I knew a lot about the whole "better Donkey Kong" past of B&K, but there was a ton of new info I had never seen/heard of before. Great research and presentation. Keep it up!
If Banjo Threeie *Ever* comes a reality -NOT counting Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts- , you think these scrapped characters are gonna be retooled similar to how Hasty was Influenced In Crash: Team Racing: Nitro Fuled?
If I could remake banjo kazooie, I would add in the 2 most well known scrapped stages, Fungus forest and Mount Fire Eyes. I’d also make adjustments to the combat and some indoor camera angles. There isn’t much to do to make banjo kazooie better, but banjo tooie, there’s a lot more work to do
What always got me with "Stop and Swap" is... the N64 Has a memory card... just make a shared memory card file for all of the stop and swap items... it doesn't seem like ti would be that hard..
It was amazing to see the evolution of one of Rare's greatest games. I was particularly surprised by the pirate turn project dream took, it defiantly reminds me of one of Rare's more recent games, Sea Of Thieves, and now I wonder if it took any inspiration from this past endeavor.
I would've loved to play that linear 2.5D version of the game. It looked gorgeous and it reminds me a little of Super Mario 3D Land/World. Also I generally like those kind of games more than the more open-world ones.
Rare-Replay should really be ported to the switch. Microsoft and Nintendo have such a good relationship, it shouldnt be that difficult. And the game would sell like hot cakes on the Switch! oh yeah by the way: Banjo-Tooie > Banjo-Kazooie ;)
Yeah it is actually very difficult. Rare Replay works in his majority with 360 ports. That is why it never got on PC even when Xbox moved all of their Xbox One titles there.
I would Love to see what rare could do by going Back to the drawing table For finishing the development of Dream: the land of giants (or even Playtonic)
Also, i think Rare and Microsoft made a mistake, not including the original Banjo Kazooie, and Banjo Tooie, on the Nuts and Bolts Disc, with a patch, that just makes the N&B Spiral Mountain, into a hub-lobby for all 3 games, literally having Banjo-Kazooie's House, be the Hub for the multiplayer of Tooie and N&B. And FTLOG License the N64 likeness and logo, and the DK character, and don't make it generic like they did... i am sure that nintendo would have traded B&K (and should have done Conker too) in Smash, for the just republish the entire game aesthetically unchanged, in homage to its origins, with only the minor improvements needed to the gameplay, camera, frame rate, and draw distance
Well now, Banjo-Tooie is one of my favorite games and I prefer that over Banjo-Kazooie because of more personality and content and other bits and bobs. I really love this video you created here.
Project Dream sounds fun and.. god it would be a bit cool if it ever came back since it probably no longer would be "too big" or "too ambitious" and.. a pirate themed RPG could be better than.. the many FF style "magic but also tech" RPGs we have
I feel like the community is fairly split when it comes to Kazooie/Tooie preference (seems like the younger audience introduced to the serie may lean a bit more towards Tooie). HOWEVER, I feel like Tooie is the better game, it only lacked a few modern niceties that would have made it so much better : Easier fast travel/level quitting "Quest" journal to keep track of activities and kitties you have found or started but not completed Maybe even a way to help you find those again when coming back to em later (though that might be much for an exploration game) Better transformations with more unique activities for those (similar to DKC2 pets levels and bonus levels With all of this Tooie would be an undethronable king for most BK fans I think. It still wouldn't have that "let's just start a playthrough, won't take long" appeal of Kazooie, but it's okay IMO.
And, then you could have had a reward for 100% completion of every game, where you gain the use of the BT move set in Nuts and Bolts, and gain use of the Wrench and Completed Trolly (maybe a super trolly with, super wheels, super engine, super fuel, and super ammo) in certain levels of Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie, to complete new, Trolly only challenges that unlock with N&B completion, in larger levels like Treasure Trove Cove, Clanker's Caver, Click Clock Wood, each of the worlds of BT
I definitely know about it but I’m going to say that should Microsoft want to revive the franchise. I think it’d be cool if they mixed the gameplay of the first two games with the car building of Nuts and Bolts. Like imagine needing to construct a vehicle that’ll help you get to a stage such as making a speed-boat to ensure you’ll get to an island stage. I could also see some stages having missions that you’d need to use a vehicle for along with on foot misisons. Such as a mission where you rescue someone but by doing so, you unwittingly made the stage into a good race track to which you race on in a later mission.
I wish Banjo Kazooie would come to Switch as a physical game. With Steam I’m all digital. With Switch I’m all physical. Js. I would buy it in a heartbeat! 💯
Banjo and Conker 64 were both being developed at the same time as Diddy Kong Racing so they just tossed them in. I think this was around the Kazoo era of development
I saw one sketch at banjo was playing actually be a girl at one point actually they should’ve had that as both versions of banjo and Kazooie that way we can have some representation of actual girl players who play the game like myself 😊
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One of the most interesting points of Banjo and Conker is how each game influenced each other:
Conker was the first to create the Mario 64 esque 3D platformer which inspired the Dream team to make Banjo Kazooie and surprisingly they were able to get BK done before Conker despite having to start from the ground up, to the point where the Conker team had to redo Conker into becoming Bad Fur Day out of fear of being to similar too Banjo Kazooie.
Imagine
Makes you wonder if there's a copy of the older version of conker out there
Its not because of Banjo but because they got terrible critique reviews for putting ANOTHER childrens game on the N64.
Imagine if Banjo was a Swordfighter in Smash with the Original Push
You mean he’s not a sword fighter? His sword is birb.
I probably wouldn't be here now
Imagine if banjo was in smash
@@dankomusto that would be NUTS!
@@dankomusto He is
In the video the narrator talks of the transition between the Donkey Kong Country games and Banjo-Kazooie, and you can see throughout the trilogy Rare developing their own style and characters more and more.
Of particular note in my view, are the Brothers Bears of Donkey Kong Country 3.
Not only is Banjo designed in a somewhat similar fashion to these bears, but those characters provided the small RPG elements of DKC3, the genre that according to the video, Banjo-Kazooie was originally going to be.
It is said that in the years after Rare was bought out, they were unable to recreate the magic of their titles from the 90's. But what about Playtonic? Were they able to reignite the magic? One thing is certain, there was defiantly a spark when Sakurai and Kirkhope brought Banjo to Smash.
Playtonic can but they were on a kickstarter deadline with a checklist of promises.
@@twitchywitchx Not helping matters is that Gregg Mayles wasn't involved. What is a Banjo game without Gregg?????? That's like having Metal Gear without Hideo Kojima.
I wasn’t alive in the 90s(I just turned 18) but man Banjo Kazooie and Tooie are just some real fun games to play even years after the N64. Hoping we get Banjo Tooie on N64 online
Good to see some young people with taste 👌
@@Gruntilda-Winkybunion Sup Gruntilda
I knew about Banjo cause of Jon Tron (oof) and also wasn’t born in the 90s,I’m a bit older than you but that doesn’t matter. I want to try these games one day
I’m 16, I only know of Banjo Kazooie because of the Nintendo youtubers I watch like Aaron. I remember them all saying they wanted Banjo in smash and it was kinda wholesome at the time seeing they way the all reacted to it
@@Gruntilda-Winkybunion fake, she didn’t rhyme her words
I love banjo and kazooie a lot their designs are so appealing.
They remind me of Billy Bob and Looney Bird
And the soundtrack was legendary
Ive seen alot of videos about project dream turning into banjo, and i actually like your video alot as you also start on the rare companys origin and included one of my favorite games jetpack.
Kinda surpised you didnt mention Diddy Kong Racing in which both Banjo and Conker appeared in.
In regards to Donkey Kong 64, it’s a game you either love or hate. It’s one of my all time favorite games but I can see why some were not fond of it.
Personally, I loved it as a kid but now I doubt I would ever play it again. I see Banjo Tooie as the game Donkey Kong 64 should have been.
Im one of those who didnt like it.
@@ricardocantoral7672 The people who made Hat in Time said that Dk 64 is to blame for collect a thons being less popular in the modern day. This is why Nuts and Blots made fun of themselves because journalists really hate DK 64.
@@kurokoro Not everyone can translate well to 3d like Mario. Kirby is one of the lucky ones.
@@orangeslash1667 Even though a lot of people didn't like how much it crapped on Banjo Kazooie when one of its lines was "All people want to do is shoot at things" which, sure, was what a lot of people were playing at the time, but it just felt like a low blow for people who were so desperately clinging on to that chance that Banjo Kazooie would be a return to the platforming glory days.
I would frickin' kill to play that Dream: Land of Giants SNES build.
Im wondering if the concept of having a guy, a woman he's associated with, and their dog as playable characters was recycled by Rare for their Jet Force Jemini game on the N64
As much as I hate retold stories about "beta" or early game developments, I'll admit this was a good vid 👌🏽👌🏽
I'm glad that Aaronitmar is still making videos today! 😁
Now I really want one for Donkey Kong 64.
Honestly I didn't know about the planned post game event where you take control of Tootie and to restore the now recently transformed Banjo and Kazooie out of their Frog Forms, could've been a fun addition.
7:30 Hey! This exact same giant dinosaur leg came back in Banjo-Tooie!
Huh so the development cycle was essentially, if you have a hammer and the head breaks and you replace it then sometime later the handle breaks and you replace that you have a completely different hammer than the one you started with. Super interesting video! Defs earned a sub.
That concept is called Theseus' Ship.
@@Joker22593 Good to know, thank you!
Fun fact: a bear without teeth is a gummy bear
Man I love seeing some non-Smash content! Don't get me wrong, I love the content for Smash you've pumped out over the years, but now that it's over I'm so happy to see you branching off like this. Excited to see what's to come!
I never even play banjo kazooie but hearing all of this and about project dream man this game was hype
The pirate is also in one of the banjo games drinking and remembering his "dream" that never came true
BK64 was one of my first three games I got around Christmas '97.
The others being Diddy Kong Racing, and the SM64 which came prebundled on release.
Banjo just moved differently than Mario.
He had more "moves," and more "forms" to consider that required multiple controller inputs. You felt "smart" playing Banjo, and you felt slick to play Mario.
@@Atylonisus Which is to be expected when you have two characters for the price of one.
I didn't love the remasters because the cutscene music and sound effects were originally lined up with the n64s lag in mind, and the remasters were done a bit lazily in that when the lag was eliminated nothing was done to fix the audio desync. I found that the remasters kind of killed a lot of the atmosphere and comedic timing because of that. So to call them the best way to experience the game? I'm not so sure.
Thanks for this awesome video. I knew a lot about the whole "better Donkey Kong" past of B&K, but there was a ton of new info I had never seen/heard of before. Great research and presentation. Keep it up!
You should do secret origin videos for every other Smash Ultimate character!
If Banjo Threeie *Ever* comes a reality -NOT counting Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts- , you think these scrapped characters are gonna be retooled similar to how Hasty was Influenced In Crash: Team Racing: Nitro Fuled?
If I could remake banjo kazooie, I would add in the 2 most well known scrapped stages, Fungus forest and Mount Fire Eyes. I’d also make adjustments to the combat and some indoor camera angles. There isn’t much to do to make banjo kazooie better, but banjo tooie, there’s a lot more work to do
What always got me with "Stop and Swap" is... the N64 Has a memory card... just make a shared memory card file for all of the stop and swap items... it doesn't seem like ti would be that hard..
It would be interesting to see a future Banjo game in the form of a linear platformer.
Begone bot!
@@Door227What?
@@ricardocantoral7672 I don’t even remember why I said that
So you’re telling be that banjo is a sword fighter
There are so many leaks but you NEVER see any project dream rom or game data leaked. ☹
I want to see 12 Tales Conker 64 leaked too. Gimme!
Great video! I loved this game and character growing up, and named my dog after him. I actually cried when he was added to Smash.
It was amazing to see the evolution of one of Rare's greatest games. I was particularly surprised by the pirate turn project dream took, it defiantly reminds me of one of Rare's more recent games, Sea Of Thieves, and now I wonder if it took any inspiration from this past endeavor.
I would've loved to play that linear 2.5D version of the game. It looked gorgeous and it reminds me a little of Super Mario 3D Land/World. Also I generally like those kind of games more than the more open-world ones.
Rare-Replay should really be ported to the switch.
Microsoft and Nintendo have such a good relationship, it shouldnt be that difficult.
And the game would sell like hot cakes on the Switch!
oh yeah by the way:
Banjo-Tooie > Banjo-Kazooie ;)
Yeah it is actually very difficult. Rare Replay works in his majority with 360 ports. That is why it never got on PC even when Xbox moved all of their Xbox One titles there.
@@RioluJH There's Hat in Time, a platformer inspired by the Bear and Bird.
I would Love to see what rare could do by going Back to the drawing table For finishing the development of Dream: the land of giants (or even Playtonic)
Idk, maybe it's me, but it feels like Sea of Thieves is Dream, but finished, just with another direction now.
It has updates.
@@orangeslash1667 I mean, Dream is finished, and Sea of Thieves is what it became.
@@blueknightskeleton8424 It was also directed by Gregg Mayles who also did Banjo.
Where does Diddy Kong Racing fit in, as Banjo is in that game first, but looks a lot different?
What about banjo tooie
1:06 you might want to pronounce it as "Zed"X Spectrum, as in England and Canada, the "Zee" more commonly pronounced as "Zed".
Wow. Rare-ware was run by some really bright minds. They made all sorts of innovations, and they took many big risks too.
Also, i think Rare and Microsoft made a mistake, not including the original Banjo Kazooie, and Banjo Tooie, on the Nuts and Bolts Disc, with a patch, that just makes the N&B Spiral Mountain, into a hub-lobby for all 3 games, literally having Banjo-Kazooie's House, be the Hub for the multiplayer of Tooie and N&B. And FTLOG License the N64 likeness and logo, and the DK character, and don't make it generic like they did... i am sure that nintendo would have traded B&K (and should have done Conker too) in Smash, for the just republish the entire game aesthetically unchanged, in homage to its origins, with only the minor improvements needed to the gameplay, camera, frame rate, and draw distance
Banjo-Kazooie would make a great Animated Movie. Change my mind 😎
Watching on June 29th 2022! All these years later. Love this game so much!
Well now, Banjo-Tooie is one of my favorite games and I prefer that over Banjo-Kazooie because of more personality and content and other bits and bobs. I really love this video you created here.
11:27 "He was a skater boi..." And so on....
Project Dream sounds fun and.. god it would be a bit cool if it ever came back since it probably no longer would be "too big" or "too ambitious" and.. a pirate themed RPG could be better than.. the many FF style "magic but also tech" RPGs we have
I feel like the community is fairly split when it comes to Kazooie/Tooie preference (seems like the younger audience introduced to the serie may lean a bit more towards Tooie). HOWEVER, I feel like Tooie is the better game, it only lacked a few modern niceties that would have made it so much better :
Easier fast travel/level quitting
"Quest" journal to keep track of activities and kitties you have found or started but not completed
Maybe even a way to help you find those again when coming back to em later (though that might be much for an exploration game)
Better transformations with more unique activities for those (similar to DKC2 pets levels and bonus levels
With all of this Tooie would be an undethronable king for most BK fans I think. It still wouldn't have that "let's just start a playthrough, won't take long" appeal of Kazooie, but it's okay IMO.
The stop n swap mechanic was actually in the xbox live release of Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie on Xbox 360.
And, then you could have had a reward for 100% completion of every game, where you gain the use of the BT move set in Nuts and Bolts, and gain use of the Wrench and Completed Trolly (maybe a super trolly with, super wheels, super engine, super fuel, and super ammo) in certain levels of Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie, to complete new, Trolly only challenges that unlock with N&B completion, in larger levels like Treasure Trove Cove, Clanker's Caver, Click Clock Wood, each of the worlds of BT
This is honestly pretty interesting.
I knew. I know *e v e r y t h i n g*
Yeah?
Yeah?
Very amazing HOW THEY MADE THIS GAME
Honestly I want to see a fangame that either uses the concepts of beta banjo kazooie or one that expands on the dream demo
20:40
Are you sure that's not just nigel farage? lol
I definitely know about it but I’m going to say that should Microsoft want to revive the franchise. I think it’d be cool if they mixed the gameplay of the first two games with the car building of Nuts and Bolts.
Like imagine needing to construct a vehicle that’ll help you get to a stage such as making a speed-boat to ensure you’ll get to an island stage.
I could also see some stages having missions that you’d need to use a vehicle for along with on foot misisons. Such as a mission where you rescue someone but by doing so, you unwittingly made the stage into a good race track to which you race on in a later mission.
Wait Aaronitmar made a new video and even though I'm subscribed I didn't see it?... ALGORITHMMMMMMMMM!
y’know there’s a lot of similarities between project dream and earthbound 64
Creativity we dont have today with constant remakes and sequels.
Super mysterious
hm I'd never have thought of bajo wielding balls as tools. I gue the eggs fille in that gap
I wish Banjo Kazooie would come to Switch as a physical game. With Steam I’m all digital. With Switch I’m all physical. Js. I would buy it in a heartbeat! 💯
We could've had a version of Banjo where his health was linked to how much drip he had
Then that would mean naked Banjo=lose a life.
13:21 understandable for it being scrapped
Dang, that Dream game looks awesome for a SNES, too bad it's cancelled.
13:28 For his Neutral Special,
he sh*ts
Do the origins of the battle entrances
Maybe Banjo and Conker should get their own game together...
You change the thumbnail and I prefer the old one
I personally prefer Banjo-Tooie, but I love both games.
3:00 I see what you did there
What about diddy kong racing?🤔
These comments are basically just:
"Ooooh I'm so glad banjo isn't a sword user! I would hate rare if he was!"
Stop and swap could have worked if they used the controller save pack.
righteous video
Make a video on smash pm remix for brawl
I live banjo kazooie
GUH UH
If you’d like you can fix up some more classic mode routes in Smash Ultimate!
When did he come into diddy Kong racing
Banjo and Conker 64 were both being developed at the same time as Diddy Kong Racing so they just tossed them in. I think this was around the Kazoo era of development
Yahoo!
3:00 I see what you did there.
WHEN ARE WE GETTING ANOTHER GAME AHHHHH
Very cool
Cool
the bear was a skater boi, rare said c ya later boi...
Im sad that concer twelve tails didnt come.out
I saw one sketch at banjo was playing actually be a girl at one point actually they should’ve had that as both versions of banjo and Kazooie that way we can have some representation of actual girl players who play the game like myself 😊
Fun fact : water is just thick air
We all know project dream
I actually did know about this...then I forgot.
Guh-history.
I like crash and spyro more
Fun fact: you time travel every second
Glad you changed the title because really, this is a commonly known fact since years ago
I will only the Xbox version.
Fun fact: every 60 seconds a minute passes in Africa
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I know i am on a minority, but I prefer tooie to kazooie
Same here. The expanded move set, transformations, and most of the objectives made BT a lot more fun than BK.
Fun fact: earth is the biggest planet in the world
Its to childish lets get rid of the fantasy and focus on pirat hmm now the human looks weird i know a fantasy bear
FOR REAL it was def a strange decision but you know what I’m not mad about it at all
Yo