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Narrowboat Life 2018 - No.12a - A 1942 Vintage (Classic Video)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ค. 2018
- We revisited an old friend at Coole Pilate moorings on the Shropshire Union Canal but this time Kenton (the boat owner) provided all the details, I (K) just worked the camera.
Is this the finest looking tug style narrowboat on the Network? We think so, why don't you have a look and see if you agree.
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If you liked this one, check out these stunning engines 👍👍 th-cam.com/video/YY3wgYvjDgI/w-d-xo.html
Valve pistons and piston rods!, I think you’ll find they’re valves, rocker arms and push rods! But hey, what’s in the words! Beautiful engine, just where it should be, in a room on full display. That engine is 2 years older than me, hope I’m still running as well as this engine in 2 years time. Thanks for posting.
Hi David
We have no idea how vintage engines work but love the noise and look of a lovely restored piece of history. This is our good friends boat, ours was built by the same builder but with a modern engine and a different design.
Thank you for taking the time to watch. B & K 👍😊☺
Thanks a lot for having Kenton show us his gorgeous boat, absolutely beautiful and a real joy to see.
I was however quite surprised about the things he said about his engine, he knew about it's history, but not much about the working of these Listers.
What he was saying about piston-rods under the rocker cover was something completely new to me, as under that cover are only rockers, valves, push rods and the injector.
The knobs on the side don't double the cylinder size either, they are only there to lower- or raise the compression ratio.
But apart from that, I was most impressed with the good looks of the boat, and can understand that Kenton, Linda and Philippa are proud to own such a nice boat.
Hi Peter
It's all knobs and rods to me. 😆
My knowledge of old vintage engines is rather limited to put it mildly. Kenton and his family are very good friends of ours so I let him get on with it and just did the filming and editing.
Whichever way you look at it this narrowboat is a stunner particularly if you are a fan of vintage engines, boatmans cabins and tug style fronts.
As always thanks for watching. 👍😎🌞
this has to be one of the nicest sounding engines. that exhaust note. gosh !
Hi there, we agree it has a lovely tone. It belongs to our friends. We had both our boats moored up at one of our favourite spots & we decided to film it. Thank you for watching. B & K 👍👍
What a beautiful engine and it sounds great,very even running.
It sure is! 👍👍
@@TheTillerPeopleNarrowboaters Hey I know this is a long shot but are you familiar with how those knobs he said expanded the cylinders work? I'm a mechanic but that's something I'm wondering what he meant because I'm not aware any engines like that or what he meant
Hi Michael
Unfortunately we only know about the modern engines. The traditional historic engines sound and look wonderful but need expert and commited hands to maintain.
Cheers. B & K 👍🍻
@@michaelf.2449 the knobs on the crankcase operate the decompression system.The screws on the side of the heads in crease the compression when screwed in for starting and return the compression to normal when screwed back out.we operated the same type as an aux.generator always on full load normal running ,with the screws turned out.
Love to see old engines at work ... Many thanks x
Hi Andy
All that noise yet it is so hypnotic. It is truly immaculate with not a mark on it and yet it is well used. It was a privilege to be shown round, just hope we come across some others during summer, I suspect we will :-)
As always thanks for watching. B & K
A Thing of Beauty and A Joy Forever! Thank you for the tour!
Hi
This is our good friends pride and joy. They keep it immaculate using loads of brass polish. The Lister JP3 was initially used to power searchlights during WW2, it is a wonderful historic engine.
Cheers B & K 👍😊☺🍻
What a classic engine and narrowboat , being old it seems to burn clean but didn't see it under load . Very nice boat and thanks for the treat of showing us :-)
Hi Stephen
We have only ever seen two other boat engines and engine rooms that comes close to this one. We hope to video them later this year.
This narrowboat is a stunner, we have cruised along on it many times and the comments from people are amazing.
Keeping everything so clean is a full time job but the results mean all the effort is worthwhile.
As usual thanks for watching. B & K 👍😎🌞
Love this classic Steve Hudson. She is stunning! Thank you for sharing it with us.
This boat is owned by our friends, they like many other boat owners prefer to have a traditional vintage engine. They keep everything in pristine condition and it shows. B & K 👍
Beautiful engine, lovely sound
Hi
Our friends really look after this wonderful piece of history. Like you say the sound is really nice and quite hypnotic.
Thanks for watching. B & K 👍😊☺
A lovely engine and boat
It sure is Henrik. It belongs to our friend. Thanks for watching 👍👍
Lovely engine runs like a watch
Hi
It is a credit to the owners of a very beautiful boat. The engine is immaculate and well maintained. Cheers. B & K 👍🍻
Wonderful as always. I enjoyed the close-ups of the items he was describing. Great camera work!
Have A Super Fantastic Day!!
Hello again
Glad you liked this video and the camera work 😆. Never been an expert on the old classic engines so I (K) thought it better to let our good friend Kenton do all the talking. I think he did very well. 😊
As always thanks for watching. 👍😎🌞
The Tiller People - Narrowboaters Is was a perfect way for us to understand. Great idea! Thanks!
Sounds beautiful!
Hello AndreiIt certainly does. A well looked after piece of history. Thanks for watching. B & K :-)
A thing of beauty. Thanks for sharing.
Hello
Yes it is a majestic piece of engineering fully restored to its former glory with a bit more brass added.
Thanks for watching. B & K 👍🌞😎
Such a satisfying exhaust beat! Beautiful restored and presented.
Couldn't agree more Colin, this one belongs to our friends ☺☺
Wonderful! Lovely vintage engine, and carpet floored engine room ;). Many thanks for the video.
Hello
This lovely engine (and narrowboat) belong to very good friends of ours. They take great pride in looking after and keeping their engine and engine room clean and immaculate .
Thanks for watching. B & K 👍😊☺🍵
A beautiful looking and sounding engine
It certainly is Peter. The sound of the engine is lovely when it is fired up. Thanks for watching & commenting. 👍👍
Stunning boat.
All the best,
Paul
Hi Paul
Could not describe it any better. A fabulous enhanced engine room with a superbly restored JP3 from the S M Hudson stable.
Cheers B & K 👍🌞😎🍺
Fantastic vlog and a fabulous boat. If I win the lottery I want one just like that! I mentioned to Dave Moore that I’d love a traditional boat with the old engine but that I didn’t think I could drive or maintain one and he said it’s not as complicated as it looks. Watching Kenton run through his engine and operating gear I think Dave might be right! You could see from his presentation that he loves his boat and boating, just like you and Bernadette. Those Lister engines are amazing. I may have mentioned that Norton Caines had a boat for sale a while ago called Silas and it was stunning. I just need to win the lottery now. Thanks to you both and Kenton for sharing. You weren’t joking when you said you had something special next.
Hi Sylvia
Glad you liked it. It is amazing how many people love and cherish their old classic engines. We think they are great but for us the amount of space they take up is a bit too much when you are cruising around a lot. Kenton and his family are rightly proud of their beautifully built boat.
Been on Silas many times it was owned by some friends of ours who now have a Hudson boat called Hud. They have a very unusual and very big Lister JP4 which I hope to video this year. We will be meeting the new owners of Silas at the Hudson Gathering.
Back on the Llangollen in the next vlog.
Thanks for watching. 👍😎🌞
Beautiful engine. What a master piece.
Hello
This engine and narrowboat belongs to very good friends of ours. They spend a long time maintaining and cleaning this gem of a Lister JP3 - simply stunning.
Thanks for watching. B & K 👍😊☺📹
I Agree with another commenter. It's a good idea to use decompression even when starting using the motor, it reduces the load on the bearings while the oil pressure comes up.
Hi there, this engine is very different from our modern one. You probably know more about the workings than we do. Thanks for watching 👍🙂
Love the sound of that old Lister engine.
It does sound good John.👍👍
That's one gorgeous boat!
Hello
Could not agree more. This is our friends boat and is an absolute stunner which is well looked after.
Thanks for watching. B & K 👍🌞😎🍻
What a beautiful boat 👌
Hi
It certainly is. The owners really do maintain and look after this wonderful vessel. Cheers. B & K
What a lovely boat an engine to be proud of 😀 hours of polishing with gallons of brasso
Hi
Kenton and his family are rightly proud of their boat. As you say they keep the engine clean and they also keep the engine room immaculate which is quite unusual.
Thanks for watching. B & K 👍😎🌞
One word BRILLIANT 👍
Thank you Kal
A very special boat which is well looked after. The cleanest and most organised engine room we have ever seen. Kenton and his family are very good friends of ours and have the same passion as we do, we have had some very enjoyable times cruising up and down the canals with our narrowboats.
If all goes to plan we should be viewing some other engines at the Hudson boat gathering in mid summer including one of if not the finest Kelvin vintage engine on the canals.
Thanks for watching. B & K :-)
That is one sweet sounding narrow boat
Hi Andrew
A perfect description .
A well used boat with an immaculate engine and engine room. Quite rightly our good friends Kenton, Linda and Phillipa are very proud of it.
Cheers B & K 👍🌞😎🍻
A great boat and a fantastic engine
Hi Harald
This boat belongs to very good friends of ours. They really look after it as you can see in the video. Cheers. B & K
@@TheTillerPeopleNarrowboaters - Yes they have really done an outstanding job.
Another brilliant blog well done to the both of you
Hi Paul
Quite simply a stunning tug style narrowboat with the cleanest engine room and engine we have ever seen.
We hope to video quite a few more engines at the Hudson Boat Gathering in midsummer.
Thanks for watching. B & K 👍😎🌞
The Tiller People - Narrowboaters cleaner than my kitchen !!!
Hahaha 👍😉
Love it guys,well done👏👏😁
Hi David
Glad you liked it, I will tell Kenton that many people are enjoying it.
Cheers B & K 👍🌞😎
OMG, beautiful!
It really is!
Special with a capital S. Absolutely stunning. That Lister is music to your ears. So pleased I came across this video albeit by accident. Thank goodness for small mercies. ❤️ oh! I’ve just subscribed too. Tuesday 19th March 2019. Going to search for some Gardner engines now. 👍
Hi Gary, welcome aboard 👍 We have just uploaded a video that you might like ... out on our friends' boat ... Lister in action .. enjoy 😎😎 th-cam.com/video/fiuKPrXeq2c/w-d-xo.html
Love the sound off the older diesel engines.
Hi Jason
So do we (but not in our own boat 😁👂). Sadly in around five years they cannot be installed in new build narrowboats. Cheers. B & K 👍🍻
That is a beautiful boat.
Hello
This boat is owned by very good friends of ours. They make sure it always looks immaculate, it is a credit to them. Stay safe. B & K :-)
Keith that was a wonderful vlog and I really enjoyed watching as I am sure you enjoyed filming it, I love what you two do its a real joy to watch , keep it coming Keith, regards Legs
Hi
This engine and boat belongs to our good friends Kenton, Linda and daughter Phillipa and they are quite rightly very proud of their boat. They keep it immaculate just like ourselves.
We love seeing and listening to vintage engines but could not have one in our own boat, but that is down to our personal choice.
Thanks for those lovely comments. B & K 👍😊☺🍵
Very nice engine room and engine. Cheers !!
Hi James, it is a smashing engine & Kenton takes great care of it. Thanks for watching 🙂🙂
Beautiful engine
Beautiful boat
Thank you very much! This lovely engine is in our friend's boat, we have a modern one in ours. 👍👍
Hi
Our friends are so proud of their narrowboat and rightly so. They maintain and clean everything regularly and it certainly shows. Keep safe and well. B & K 👍💑
You wind out the compression once the engines started and has warmed up - it was called the cold start diesel as it never needed smoldering wicks or glow plugs to start like its rivals - winding out reduces the compression changes the ratio from 17:1 to about 15.5 and gives all the bearings an easier time - one of the design features that ensured the motors lasted - I have a 1934 Lister CS which pioneered the concept
Thank you. Ours is a modern engine, so we wouldn't know.👍👍
Love it !!!
Hi
We have read all your comments and greatly appreciate what you have said. Both of us have not felt well for a few days so have been keeping away from computers and editing until we feel better. (it is not COVID-19 related)
Our next vlog will be delayed for a few days until we are back to our normal selves and can put everything together and upload onto TH-cam.
We are feeling a bit better but not quite right yet.
B & K
Hi
It certainly is a vintage work of art. Cheers. B & K
fantastic lister and spotles engne room great..
Hi Steve
It takes a lot of time and effort to keep things looking so good.
This was an enhanced engine room request during the boat build and you can certainly tell.
Thanks for watching. B & K 👍🌞😎
Maybe nicest engine room I've ever seen. I would of loved to have a peek inside the boat.
Hi Chris
We have seen quite a few engine rooms and we have not seen better. If all goes to plan over summer we will be looking at some other engine rooms.
Thanks for watching. 👍🌞😎
I don’t know why but I really like boatmans cabins, so traditional
Hi Eric, yes they are quite cosy. They look great when done out with the traditional paintwork & ornaments. ☺👍
Beautiful boat and engine,we have lister engines here in the US
Hello
So many narrowboats are neglected. Our friends spend a lot of time maintaining that wonderful engine and also look after everything in general.
Thanks for watching. B & K 👍😊☺
love that boat
Hi Stephen
Yes it is rather special. We have been in many boats with vintage engines and this one is the best we have ever seen.
Thanks for watching. B & K :-)
thanks for the reply, great vlogs. i do love those boatmans cabins.
Brilliant👍
Thanks again David. 👍😆
Thank you Keith and thank you to Kenton for showing us his boat. Beautiful. You two must have amongst the best boats on the network! P.s Kenton do you use Maguires mirror finish silicon free wax. Someone told us this is excellent.Ha ha.
Hi Ken
It is quite special and well looked after. We are also hearing on the grapevine that another very nice shiny new boat will be joining us both on the cut in summer 2019. 😆
Kenton uses something else for waxing his boat, probably because he did not know about the Maguires silicone free wax until now. 😂
As always thanks for watching and it was very nice meeting up with you and Gez.
Cheers B & K 👍😎🌞
I definitely personally prefer the vintage engine, gardeners are the best reliable engines ever built FACT
Hi
We love the vintage engines but personally we prefer the extra space and a modern engine in our own boat. The Kelvin series are probably our favourite vintage engines. Sadly we will be seeing less and less of the old thumpers.
B & K
I like the spot light ,what I could see of it
Hi John
The light is a fully restored solid brass Francis Lamp. We sourced an absolute humdinger which was used on a 1950's fire engine. They look great on the front of traditional looking narrowboats particularly if they are dechromed.
www.fireapparatusmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2020/04/FA042020-Heal10.jpg
Keep safe and well. B & K 👍💑
Lovely sound. Only thing better is a hit and miss
Quite a few older narrowboats have Bolinder engines, they sound great.
B & K 👍💑
so beautiful. wish i could have one is ussa florida
It is a super engine & our friend Kenton does really look after it too. It is very different than ours which is a modern engine ... seen here th-cam.com/video/axMwmtmI5wc/w-d-xo.html
Smoother than the high compression modern.
Great engine & well cared for by our friends. We have a modern one which we prefer. Thanks for watching. 👍👍
I bet it smells lovely in there :-)
Hi Carl
The main smell in the engine room is brass polish which is very nice. Heat is another thing, hence the side hatches each side are normally open.
Thanks for watching. B & K 👍😎
Wow!! Love the engine. How is the engine cooled? Canal water through a hull port, then a heat exchanger, returning to the canal through another hull port? Obviously not out the exhaust. Then how is the water for heating the cabin integrated to the engine? 😍
Hi Steve
This Lister JP3 is our friends pride and jpy and you can certainly understand why. It was converted for marine use by the boatbuilders. Two header tanks, one water and one fuel keep it ticking along. No canal water is required which can only be a good thing. Coming off the engine are two connections which go to a twin coil calorifier. This gives free hot water when the boat is cruising along.
We hope that makes sense. B & K 👍😷💑
Thank you! Yes makes perfect sense. Great vlogs! Keep them coming. 👍😎
JP3's are 27hp, it's the JP2's which are 18hp :)
Thanks for that 👍👍 We wouldn't know ... We like the sound of a vintage engine but modern engines for us. We just did the filming. Did you enjoy watching it? 🙂🙂
Nice
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Beautiful looking engine, just doesn't quite have the sound of a 2 cylinder.
Thanks for watching Mike ... they all do have an 'interesting' sound 👍👍
I have a ha2 ....sounds good but I can tell ya theres nowt wrong with the sound of that jp3......lovely bass👍
How do those knobs enlarge the cylinders?
Hi James, we're not sure! Ours is a modern engine & this was a video we took of our friend's boat. Thanks for watching 👍👍
Some of the terms I think he misspoke. Can't enlarge cylinders. The rocker gear needs greasing and prelubing.
Lister used this system on several of it's diesels, a external knob rotates a screw thread that uncovers a small additional chamber.
Cylinder volume
love the deep throaty exhaust. reminds me of a 'rat' motor.
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Hi David
This engine is our friends pride and joy. Well maintained and regularly polished.
Keep safe. B & K 👍💑
Really good....I would have this sound to help me to sleep.....Qu elle est la cylindrée exacte ?
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Ah you mean capacity
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I'm a bit concerned with the lack of lagging on the exhaust manifold, with it being right next to an apparent passageway. Apart from that, a beautiful and well-kept installation. The newer engines just aren't as charming as the classics.
Hello
You do not need to have any concerns. This is an enhanced built engine room. The brass hides a fully lagged exhaust manifold, the brass piece which is purely decorative just unbolts and comes off. It does not even get lukewarm, quite simply the best and cleanest engine room I have ever seen.
Thanks for watching. B & K 👍😎🌞
I think we're not looking at the same thing. I was concerned about the cast manifold at the side of the engine block, not the vertical stack (which I thought was a silencer). Have to say I fully agree with you about the cleanliness. --Jim
Apologies Jim
That is one reason why I let Kenton explain everything. 😊
I know very little about old engines but plenty about the modern ones.
No apology necessary -- just continue your delightful reports. I'm always interested to see different solutions to design problems, especially from those engineers who didn't have access to today's tools. --Jim
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how does the doubling size of cylinders work?
Not sure Frances, we have a modern engine.
It changes the size of the combustion chamber.it is there to raise the compression ratio for cold starting only. Once started it should unscrew the knob to lower the compression ratio again so as not to over load the crank or bearings.
Its like 3x Lister CS
Hi
Looking at this type of engine we bet it can easily be marinised for canal boat use. Stay safe. B & K 👍💑
do or dont you ever use your high low compression ........ you should
Hi
We only made the video and know nothing about vintage engines. It belongs to good friends of ours and they really look after the engine and the rest of their beautiful boat. Cheers. B & K 👍😊☺🍻
how do I get a Lister Diesel in US?
Hi there, not sure how you would go about it but maybe you could search some boatyards on the Internet. Thanks for watching. 👍👍
@@TheTillerPeopleNarrowboaters how much do they cost?
Hi there, sorry but we don't know. Maybe someone else on here might have an idea of the cost
Try searching commercial fishing salvage yards...listers would have been popular back in the day and not uncommon.
A top exhaust looks cool but in reality it isnt as if your cruising all day you have exhaust fumes almost permanently in your face. I used to run a Hotel boat with a JP3 so I know what Im talking about
Hi
You certainly make a valid point. Vintage engines look and sound wonderful but in our 43 years boating we have always had modern engines. Cheers. B & K 👍😊☺🍻
Too much spare time on your hands to polish that engine up like that lol
Hello This is our friend's boat. He does spend a lot of time cleaning and polishing his Lister engine. We have a modern engine but many boat owners have vintage engines and spend so much time making them look great. Cheers. B & K 👍😊☺🍻
Excellent but disappointing at the same time. "Good look round it" suggests the whole boat!
It's our friends' boat so we were looking only at the engine. You are quite welcome to look at the inside of our boat though ... by the same boat builder 👍👍
Cc’d
Cheers. B & K 👍😊☺🍻
Just think on a bit these tugs will cause a lot of pollution. They should be made to use battery power these days
Hi
You cannot wipe history out overnight. Battery technology is coming on in leaps and bounds but is not really suitable for narrowboats currently. A few prototypes are knocking around and hybrids exist buy it is many years away from being the norm.
Far more cars, lorries, buses and factories pollute more than narrowboat engines. More of a concern is the multi fuel stove used on many narrowboats and in property which are extremely polluting.
Cheers. B & K 👍😊☺🍻
Actually the production of batteries causes more pollution than this little old engine ever will. Not to mention the damage caused by mining the resources to make the batteries and electric motors.
You are spot on. Changing to battery power will happen but it currently feels a long way off from being the perfect solution.
Cheers. B & K 👍😊☺
Just how would people be able to put enough charge into the batteries.
Starting the video off with that asinine horn is no doubt earning you a fair share of dislikes.
Hi John
For those who know a bit of canal and narrowboat history that horn is really sought after and sounds wonderful. We think it is a great start to a very nice video which is the important thing.
Cheers. Keith 👍🍻