This Pipe Killed 123 Men

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  • @waterlinestories
    @waterlinestories  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

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    • @DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii
      @DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      good pipes bad pipes

    • @ongbou
      @ongbou 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      your my new fav channel thx!!

    • @piperdown323
      @piperdown323 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is the name of the guitar song in the beginning of the video?
      have a nice day.

    • @thvtsydneylyf3th077
      @thvtsydneylyf3th077 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bloody welders ay

  • @markschneider8815
    @markschneider8815 ปีที่แล้ว +1296

    I missed this by ONE day! My bunk at the main Ekofisk complex was needed, so I was transferred to the Keiland for a night to catch the early chopper to the beach and my flight back to the states. My GF picked me up and brought me home. She woke me up in the afternoon and told me to turn on the news. The network was carrying the story as Breaking News. I would later find I had lost several good friends in the incident. Requiscat In Pace, guys. You are sadly missed.

    • @iainbanks7415
      @iainbanks7415 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Wow!! What a lucky day for you! But sadly not for others. Glad you are still here.

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +119

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @ripwednesdayadams
      @ripwednesdayadams ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Thankfully you were spared. It must have been devastating to lose so many friends and coworkers. I hope you’re doing okay. ♥️

    • @ghhhp
      @ghhhp ปีที่แล้ว +12

      damn man rip 🪦 must be wild to think about how you literally just missed it

    • @markschneider8815
      @markschneider8815 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      We all knew accidents were likely but we dismissed the likelihood that WE would ever be in one. I worked on a drillship off the coast of Spain that was drilling a sour gas well (hydrogen sulfide gas, the rotten egg smell). Highly poisonous, you'd never smell it, first thing it did was destroy your sense of smell. All across the ship were SCBAs (self-contained breathing apparatus, like firefighters). Thing was I wear glasses, blind without them; and the masks wouldn't seal around them. If we had an actual leak, I was toast. Like the weather in the North Sea, it was all part of the job. I did the work, I cashed the checks, repeat.
      For several days I spent more time drunk than sober. This was post Vietnam, I had guys around me that understood what losing a bunch of friends suddenly felt like. They watched over me. Only problem was my GF. She threw a fit when she found out I was going back. C'est la vie.

  • @rebelmouth9349
    @rebelmouth9349 ปีที่แล้ว +548

    The biggest lesson that we can all take from this is if you're in a sensitive area (A tall building, a boat, a nightclub) and something unusual starts to happen, *REACT*
    Don't wait for emergency services to tell you what to do. Investigate for yourself and start taking proactive steps to mitigate disaster.

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Completely agree

    • @ajstramaski6211
      @ajstramaski6211 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      See, that’s what I don’t understand about some of the disasters. Like the piper alpha where no one raised the alarm because they weren’t allowed. Bitch, get the fuck out of my way. The shit we extract from the earth is fucking flammable and the only thing keeping us alive and out of the water is this hunk of metal and it is currently on fire. I will slam the emergency button 5 times in a row Indint care what you think I am allowed to do.

    • @mokomoko1876
      @mokomoko1876 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i need some rebel mouth

    • @mokomoko1876
      @mokomoko1876 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      rebel mouth to my phallus? Please

    • @mokomoko1876
      @mokomoko1876 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      rebellllllll mouuuuth

  • @jonahbrame7874
    @jonahbrame7874 ปีที่แล้ว +332

    It's crazy how little redundancy was built into that rig. If one weld failure was enough to take down the whole thing, it really seems like it was inevitable. It's kind of odd too because it's not like it's an aerospace application where they are desperately pinching weight. It seems like they could afford to add a couple more braces to up the factor of safety on a rig that is going to spend its life getting battered by the sea.

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Considering, whenever we built "floating bridges" for crossing rivers and streams, we'd weld the braces from floats (usually steel drums) to the bridge-frame, and then wrap them in chains, so they could pop loose and still offer "some" support, even while being banged around... Sure, it was another couple hundred pounds of chain, but when a weld pops, and you're on a truck in the "dead middle" of the suddenly heaving and bucking bridge, you're kinda thankful someone had "foresight".
      ...Used to use a very similar "trick" when welding in engine-mounts, too... "It might get loose, but it ain't going too far." ;o)

    • @mixnmatchflavourbleach2313
      @mixnmatchflavourbleach2313 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      It's an oil company
      Saving money comes first

    • @markschneider8815
      @markschneider8815 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      ​@@mixnmatchflavourbleach2313Safety requirements were quite high and strictly enforced. The designers and engineers just didn't understand the forces that were in play in the North Sea. Trust me on this: requirements for rig design and construction were upped by several magnitudes after this. People were humbled and heads rolled. Phillips Pet. and it's Norwegian partners weren't pinching pennies. Safety was always #1. Sad thing is, most lessons are learned the hard way. It's true in all endeavors. It happens in aviation, aerospace, highway construction, and so many other areas of human endeavors.

    • @AnimeSunglasses
      @AnimeSunglasses ปีที่แล้ว +36

      ​@@markschneider8815 Safety may have been #1 in design, but it's very hard to believe that it was #1 in procedure.

    • @chuckaddison5134
      @chuckaddison5134 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      There's an old adage in the aviation community, "most all safety rules are written in blood".
      Humans are smart, but they are not omniscient. There are times when engineers either didn't understand the forces involved, or trusted the strength of the engineering too much. Sometimes the wrong material is used as in the I-35W collapse. Also, especially where governments are involved, lack of redundancy, and/or sloppy or, nonexistant inspection schedules. Or as is often the case the construction company changes the plans or uses inferior materials in order to save time or boost profit, as in the Kansas City Hyatt walkway collapse. Sometimes it is lack of user training as in the Boeing 737 Max cases.
      There is, currently a great deal of predjudice toward the oil companies. Prehaps some of it deserved. But nonetheless it is one of the most highly regulated industries globally.
      As long as humans go into hostile environments, there will be casualities.

  • @excrubulent
    @excrubulent 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    We studied this in materials science when we were learning about fatigue, and one detail that often gets overlooked is that the weld wasn't even structural, which is why it got ignored. It was only to connect a hydrophone - just an underwater microphone - to one of the braces. It could've been connected in a bunch of ways, but the fact they chose a weld is how the failure occurred.
    The problem has a number of elements. To start with, these rigs are engineered quite close to the limits of their strength, because they need to be light enough to be buoyant. That means the structural members are all hollow. That's fine if nothing goes wrong, but in engineering, especially when lives are at stake, assuming nothing will go wrong is a big no-no. You want redundancy. Adding more material and more volume would be more expensive, but it would add redundancy.
    The next problem is that shapes, particularly internal bends, in structural members can cause stress concentrations. This is part of why you make fillet shapes, including fillet welds. This is to smooth out the corners, to spread out the stress lines and prevent them from bunching up too much as they go around the corner. You can't get rid of this problem entirely however.
    The last problem is with how fatigue cracks develop. There is an ultimate strength above which a material will fail immediately. Lower there is also a fatigue strength, below which the material can survive an infinite number of repeated loadings without any problems. Above the fatigue strength the number of loadings the material can survive goes down exponentially. Close to the fatigue strength the material might withstand over 10,000 repetitions, but as you get closer to the ultimate strength that number drops to thousands, then hundreds, then tens, then just one.
    The material slowly, imperceptibly deforms and becomes more brittle as microscopic imperfections work their way to the surface. Once it's too hard and brittle, a crack develops, which is the worst case feature for stress concentration. This will typically push the material well past its ultimate strength the next time it is loaded, and the crack will propagate extremely quickly, possibly failing the entire member in one go.
    The scary part here is that you really can't know if a fatigue crack is developing without analysing the member in microscopic detail. Once you can see the crack, the member is likely beyond saving.
    Now the problem as I understood it was not primarily one of workmanship but design and oversight. The weld had some defects, but it shouldn't have been there in the first place. They designed brace D-6 to be strong enough on its own, even with the repeated loadings of strong winds and high seas. They then added the welds in the middle of it that didn't remove any material so they assumed it would be fine, but didn't carry out a fatigue analysis on that weld. If they had, they might've noticed that one single 6mm fillet weld compromised the entire structure. They also didn't inspect the welds properly and didn't design a rig with enough redundancy to withstand this sort of failure. If they had, maybe it would've stayed upright long enough for an evacuation.
    At the bottom of the wikipedia entry there's a link to a report by officer of the watch, a maritime safety organisation, that outlines this and other failures in the process. Ultimately disasters like this don't happen because of one mistake, they happen because many mistakes stack up one on another.

    • @gaveintothedarkness
      @gaveintothedarkness 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Thanks for the detailed write up!

    • @excrubulent
      @excrubulent 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@gaveintothedarkness Hey no worries, I'm glad people read it! Sometimes I info dump in the comments and it just gets buried lol.

    • @excrubulent
      @excrubulent 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Bob-lq6dt Yes, that's a very good term for it. The thing I find most interesting though is that it wasn't just a minor structural failure cascading into major elements, the start of the failure came from an entirely superfluous element, structurally speaking.
      I guess that's often how failures happen - people overlook the details.

    • @philidor9657
      @philidor9657 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for sharing!

    • @HogMan2022
      @HogMan2022 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you for the explanation and the great comment/education. I'm an old retired welder, and I used to love working with the egineers. They taught me that there was a lot I didn't know.

  • @lineinthesand663
    @lineinthesand663 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Thanks for posting this.
    Astonishing how just one failure point can lead to so much grief.

  • @josegarza7719
    @josegarza7719 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    What a nightmare. Props to the men who work on these tombs

  • @jimerjam6689
    @jimerjam6689 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    As a student welder I will tell you that it is very easy for weld defects to be missed, a welder might cover a slag pocket or use just slightly wrong amperage, usually for high stress applications you stack multiple welds together to make a big one, apparently here it wasn't enough.

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Thanks, great input from someone with actual knowledge.

    • @j2kerrigan
      @j2kerrigan ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Idk on rigs that cost billions of dollars they should have all welds inspected with.. whatever it is they use in radiography.

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Gotta WHIP IT, Baby... WHIP IT ALL NIGHT!!! ;o)

    • @ethan4237
      @ethan4237 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@j2kerriganwelds would be inspected by NDT (non-destructive testing), either ultrasound or x-ray.

    • @terrykavanaugh2481
      @terrykavanaugh2481 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don't they exray?

  • @JFinnerud
    @JFinnerud 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I remember my grandmother took me out to look at the wreck of the rig, which was upside down with the pontoons sticking up just above the surface after it was towed close to shore. Didn't get the full grasp of it as a 7 year old however the sight of the rig stuck with me.

  • @markschneider8815
    @markschneider8815 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Let me say, as an experienced oilrig and construction worker in the North Sea for several years there's a lot not explained here or just plain left out. To cover everything, including the decisions made beforehand due to a lack of understanding of real conditions in the North Sea, would take hours to adequately explain. There are a lot of people in multiple countries who still hang their heads in shame, muttering "If only we'd only known then what we know know now."
    Hindsight is 20/20. Experience is a marvelous teacher. It's easier to recognize a mistake the second time you make it. 😢

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Fair enough.

    • @danielwelker1286
      @danielwelker1286 ปีที่แล้ว

      Been On the North Sea while in the Navy it's a very dangerous place 😮

    • @pizzlerot2730
      @pizzlerot2730 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That's just the nature of a short form documentary. It's really meant to just tell the overarching story, with enough technical knowledge thrown in to explain key failures. As interesting as the complete story may be, most people just aren't going to devote a few hours to going through it. Short form allows just enough time for its main purpose, which is telling the story of the people who lost their lives, and increasing understanding and respect in the general public for the incredible forces and dangers that these people face on any given day.

    • @SeltkirkTV
      @SeltkirkTV ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Your comment doesn't make any sense. What hasn't been explained and what was left out?

    • @genzen6129
      @genzen6129 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      You really can't make a comment like this without giving an idea of what wasn't understood. Sea currents? Weld methods? Cmon something bud

  • @theKRB93
    @theKRB93 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I can't believe this channel doesn't have more views, amazing quality content 👍

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thanks. It’ll get there. Just takes time

  • @srednivashtar5432
    @srednivashtar5432 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Should I stay or should I go? A terrible dilemma, I suppose in the absence of any definitive instructions, the instinct in that situation is to stay in your cabin. The ones who went for the lifeboats made the right call, but the majority weren’t so lucky. Most large scale disasters are like that, a few people making the right decision at the right time. RiP, lads.

    • @mvtv-montanavigilantetv5976
      @mvtv-montanavigilantetv5976 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      As part of some disaster training somewhere in the past I always remember one presenter's critical point on crowds and disasters: Stop. Note to where all the people are running. Go another direction.

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@mvtv-montanavigilantetv5976 SO... run INTO the fire??? Sounds a little sus, but okay... ;o)

    • @iwaswrongabouteveryhthing
      @iwaswrongabouteveryhthing ปีที่แล้ว +8

      save yourself when it turns to shit, no good waiting for orders if comms are knocked out
      many people are still inside boats 2kms under water

    • @markschneider8815
      @markschneider8815 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@iwaswrongabouteveryhthingNot in this incident.

    • @SofaKingShit
      @SofaKingShit ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Survival is mostly dependent upon the luck needed for the specific circumstances in each particular case. Sometimes it's better to do this, sometimes better to do that instead. Making rational and informed decisions whilst in full fight or flight mode takes a special kind of mind and extensive training and actual experience. It's far easier to do whilst sitting on a comfortable couch watching a video and postulating how to act in a chaotic and extremely frightening life or death situation in the middle of the North Sea.

  • @gracie1312
    @gracie1312 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I just found this channel and the videos are well made! No loud background music, clear descriptions for audio only, thanks

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks. Not sure I've got all videos right Inn these parameters but that's what I'm aiming for.

  • @TheDarkness506
    @TheDarkness506 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel like you don't get enough credit for the carefully picked sounds that make the videos so much more immersive. They help paint a vivid picture, add weight to your words and in some cases are quite educational, like when you demonstrate various alarms or horn signals. Thank you for all the hard work you put in each and every documentary.

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks. It's not often those details are recognised.

  • @-Eternal-Damnation-
    @-Eternal-Damnation- ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Love your videos mate. Happy Father's day to all the dads out there

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks and yes happy father's Day. I can't wait to pack mine off to bed

  • @stephenwalker5253
    @stephenwalker5253 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I worked offshore in the 80s, i heard that one of the legs was used to put heavy equipment that is used in different times in the drilling operation and this contributed to the weld failure, RIP to all the lost souls.

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Interesting, I didn't come across any mention of that in the research but anything possible

    • @pauls3204
      @pauls3204 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I worked on its sister rig Petrolia which was a bucket of shit
      It was a design fault and nothing more .

  • @adamnixon2886
    @adamnixon2886 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really appreciate all the pictures you add to your narration.
    It really helps me get a good understanding of all the things I'm unfamiliar with

  • @drowningnixis
    @drowningnixis ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for sharing their story.

  • @IronBhoy
    @IronBhoy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Expertly narrated and presented. ❤🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍

  • @fatovamingus
    @fatovamingus ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I want to retract my request on Great lakes freighters and ask for more of the stories about these oil rigs. There is so much fracture in the early designs and the tragedies are unknown for many people I think.

    • @zvotaisvfi8678
      @zvotaisvfi8678 ปีที่แล้ว

      80's wasn't exactly early in the oil game innit

    • @daviddunsmore103
      @daviddunsmore103 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​zvotaï svfi No, but there were still several high profile oil rig disasters in the 1980s. Apart from the one in this video, the Ocean Ranger and Piper Alpha come to mind.

  • @jackking5567
    @jackking5567 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The North Sea carries a very bad reputation. I worked on fishing trawlers in that sea for many years and the storms that could appear without warning were surreal. We could be trawling on what was a perfect sea in perfect weather. Almost in an instant, the sea water around would go from a blue colour to a green colour - it was a bad omen to see it because you knew then that a storm was coming in fast despite no bad weather being visible. I've seen things go from calm to hell on Earth in just ten minutes, I've seen the trawler held heavy with a net while waves grow so big they wrap around and over the boat because the boat couldn't rise with those waves. We had times when the coastguard became aware of our being on the sea and talking to us as we tried to make way to sheltered waters.
    The rig workers in The North Sea were well trained and well equipped with safety. Unfortunately, some things beyond their control would see good people perish.

  • @-_l-_-l_-
    @-_l-_-l_- 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You sound very South African. I love the accent and you are a real good story teller. Great stuff

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks. Yes I’m South African

  • @PotooBurd
    @PotooBurd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is so informative!!! Fantastic reporting; I love this kind of content!🌻🌼🐝

  • @user-vs5il9zz5m
    @user-vs5il9zz5m 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That has to be one, if not the most scariest things to experience besides war. Truly sad and devastating to the family’s, friends, and coworkers. May they rest in peace🙏🏼

  • @helenTW
    @helenTW 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I guess there is nothing else to do than to wait for the Titan submarine episode.

  • @maxpayne4370
    @maxpayne4370 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your channel and story telling. You deserve more subscribers!

  • @ripwednesdayadams
    @ripwednesdayadams ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the videos of those massive oil platforms being tossed around by gigantic waves is the stuff of nightmares. i can’t imagine having to jump into raging 50 foot waves, knowing you have no other option but to jump.

  • @miapdx503
    @miapdx503 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another amazing video! Some of that footage is incredible. Your work is top notch sir. Salute! 🌹⚓

  • @markdavis2475
    @markdavis2475 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember this event. At the time an engineer colleague told me the crack started after a 1" hole was drilled in the leg to mount a transducer.

  • @jamescole1786
    @jamescole1786 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great clear & ez-2-understand narration of horrible Incident. A+ presentation! Your video & pictures show chronology of events without going too deep into complex details of extreme North Sea weather, layers of engineering, welding, metal fatigue testing & ultimate certification. Much enjoyed your other video on Deepwater Horizon in Gulf of Mexico. That was not a weather related incident but more management short-circuit on several layers causing catastrophe. Keep making these clear & easily understandable videos. Great job!👍👏✅️

  • @user-be7qq1ec7s
    @user-be7qq1ec7s ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You make fantastic videos. Only problem is that it's difficult to understand the footage you're using. Could you add some text for the viewers to understand if the footage if from the actual incident or something else?

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thanks yeah. It's something in working towards. A few people have said so recently and I want to incorporate it. Just have to work out the process with my team.

    • @smeghead666
      @smeghead666 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@waterlinestories You're doing a right stand up job at it too, see if you can get an animator on staff as I feel like your channel is about to go to the moon and some explanatory animations of your own design would be perfect to fit in with the whole thing.
      Mark my words though my man and brace yourself for those subs coming in!

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I hope they're coming. It takes time but I'm happy with three progress of the channel.
      I do try to incorporate some animations when I can but I have to make them myself. Can't afford an animator just yet but it's on the list of developments.
      Thanks for the feedback

    • @mvtv-montanavigilantetv5976
      @mvtv-montanavigilantetv5976 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      (Disclaimer: Love these videos and consistenly learn either new stuff or "the scoop" of more notable events with better understanding. And while nothing NEAR these productions, the following is triggered by editing trouble of my own/getting IN trouble. Personally see your point; agree as much as not w/o debate. Cheers). From the context, I can offer some guesses:
      The guys jumping into the water with jean shorts are NOT from a North Sea drilling rig. The tilting footage was when that idiot Earl clipped the moblie home's corner brace pillar. The people running along the edge of what looks like an actual rig at 90 degrees and sinking is ... holy Hell, I'd like to know myself. Clear weather so not this event? Finally, the general high seas wave footage is NOT B-roll but relevant and taken from my ill-fated Swim With The Dolphins & Gender Reveal combo BBQ party last year and ... waitaminute. How da heck did he get THAT footage? Hey, buddy, that was one of my most popular posts with over 8 views! Internet is limited but still available here in gen pop!

  • @michaeltaylor4271
    @michaeltaylor4271 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I actually like the two separate platforms one for living quarters the other for work, that way if something happens on the working platform people have a better chance to live

  • @willhamlink
    @willhamlink ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Top notch video as always, my submechanophobia was hating all the visuals in this but in an good way lmao

  • @russell-di8js
    @russell-di8js 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That didn't sound scary, MUCH. Frightening for survivors, terrifying for the victim's. So So scary!!! great video

  • @SeltkirkTV
    @SeltkirkTV ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would love to see your take on the Ocean Ranger Disaster

  • @beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205
    @beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good Morning, again another fascinating, exciting story about jobs men do that I have never heard of. I see alot of rust on some of these rigs, are they ever cleaned, fixed and repainted??? Please keep these cool stories coming, looking forward to the next one. 👍👍👍👍😉😉

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Beverly
      Out at sea you can expect some rust. Impossible to escape.
      There will be an annual maintenance regime but for the most part it's a managed side effect of being at sea on a hunk of metal.

    • @beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205
      @beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@waterlinestories So is it the rust that caused the failure or the force of the waves or both. Is there a certain time line that rusty pieces need to be repaired before it causes trouble?? Just wondering "waterline".
      (Since I don't know your name)

    • @Noreen_Ni_Riain
      @Noreen_Ni_Riain ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205 not sure if rigs are treated like this, but Practical Engineering on youtube has a video of how rust can be allowed to form to a limited extent on the specially treated surface of some bridges in order to protect the internal structure - it would make sense to me to have this technology on rigs, but I'm not sure 🤷‍♀️

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205 Oceanic saltwater EATS EVERYTHING... Mostly, for structural steel, you have to check the thickness of actual steel left to determine replacements, once the rust is removed "per the maintenance regimen" for the structure, be that a boat, bridge, or oil rig... In between mass inspections, regular spot checks and repainting to protect whatever metal you've got are also a fairly regular part of mitigation and management.
      In something the shear size of an oil rig, there are going to be tiny imperfections here and there. An inclusion (in welding) is a little bit of debris that gets covered in molten metal during the weld process and forms a bubble... an "internal flaw", which presents one (usually of many) weak points in the structure. Like chains, any metal structure is only going to be as strong as it's weakest place, and the sea is ALWAYS active, so splashing around and battering everything on or in it... AND the weak points eventually give way to cracks, and grow over time. The hope is that the regular inspections and massive maintenance projects repair more than they let "slip through the cracks" so a rig can stand and give full service for a lifetime...
      In this case, somehow a flaw was sufficient to catastrophically fail before it was caught and fixed or retro-fitted out of hazard. It seems a little negligent that a single weld could result in quite so much harm over-all, but I'm not an expert in the design and schemata of oil rigs... SO maybe there's more to it than the obvious...
      In any case, it's really a combination of weakness in a vital weld and the regular battering at sea that the thing underwent through its whole life... AND that saltwater just steadily erodes away every material until something bad happens, so inspections are the only real way to defend against catastrophic failure, even if we have to balance the financial feasibility of repairs with the budget for making profit over the lifespan of a given rig at a given location... ;o)

    • @beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205
      @beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gnarthdarkanen7464 Thank you so much for the information. I find this very fascinating and all your input helps. Take care. 👍

  • @craighaldane-gy3mk
    @craighaldane-gy3mk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Even during the summer you don't want to be swimming in the north Sea it's freezing never mind waves and wind.must of been absolutely terrifying.
    Respect and thoughts to those who died on that day 🙁.

  • @SofaKingShit
    @SofaKingShit ปีที่แล้ว +10

    He's able to pronounce the Norwegian words correctly. That's a dedicated researcher right there methinks. We have words like "yr" and "Yngve" so just giving it an attempt takes some doing.

    • @Vingul
      @Vingul 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He does a good job of it, but the K in "Kielland" is pronounced like "Kjell" (not "skjell", by the way, though many Norwegians do that now -- skjell, skjirke, skjylling).

  • @dbx1233
    @dbx1233 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a horrific nightmare.

  • @TakeMeToYourLida
    @TakeMeToYourLida 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I feel like the answer when the sh!t hits the fan at sea is never “stay in your cabin”

  • @MrSthomas423
    @MrSthomas423 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Spanish guitar music gives a kind of uplifting, Mediterranean vibe for the gale force death floater.

  • @TeamGRN420
    @TeamGRN420 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just listening and imagining what it mustve been like is absolutely terrifying

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It would have been terrifying

  • @arnenelson4495
    @arnenelson4495 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video!

  • @JuliusCaesar888
    @JuliusCaesar888 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey WS, you have a VERY GOOD story developing right now - PLEASE wait until all the info comes out and do AN EPIC long form 1 hr video on the OceanGate sub disaster. You'll corner the market and the video might make your channel go viral. GOOD LUCK.

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Great idea

    • @knowledge3743
      @knowledge3743 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'm absolutely dying for a WS vid on the OceanGate disaster, its the whole reason I went down this rabbithole which brought me to this amazing channel!

  • @norml.hugh-mann
    @norml.hugh-mann ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 5 legged design is cursed I t would seem. This isnt the only catastrophe involving a 5 leg

  • @FranktheDachshund
    @FranktheDachshund ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video, it just seems that it cut off right when.

  • @vegarhl
    @vegarhl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Aleksander Kielland platform was nicknamed "Bangladesh" by those who worked there, because the rig was worn out and in bad conditions . Many talked about sabotage and insurance fraud, Norwegian authorities' handling of the accident, did not improve matters. The rig was towed upside down in to land. The authorities wanted to sink the rig in deep water without turning it over, but after much back and forth it was turned over a few years later, examined and sunk in deep water in a fjord. 123 perished and not all were found.

    • @user-nv7jy6hj7v
      @user-nv7jy6hj7v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's right. Evidence was sent to a demolition expert in the US and if I'm not mistaken, there were signs of something fishy going on.
      My family and neighboring families were all wrapped up in it since our dads went down with Kielland. Took years for it all to finally blow over.
      The government sank it at 700 meters in the Nedstrandsfjorden after, what I've been told and have read, a shambolic investigation.

  • @smegheadGOAT
    @smegheadGOAT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff.

  • @tjeerdveenhoven
    @tjeerdveenhoven 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice docu. I see so many pictures and video's which have no relation to the subject. I start to notice it and it confuses me. I think many different rigs are depicted. Would it not be wise to mention this?

  • @nicholascampbell2824
    @nicholascampbell2824 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    123 men: nothing, pipe: im going to kill you

  • @majackson14
    @majackson14 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My wife's uncle, George Collins lost his life in this tragedy. 😢

  • @_meshele_
    @_meshele_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The background music is a bit loud and distracting but good video

  • @ebbonemint
    @ebbonemint 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No way, I hear several loud bangs in the middle of a storm I’m already strapping on my headlamp and finding the closest lifejacket cabinet.
    As soon as we start listing to one side without rebounding, I’m gonna grab anyone I hold dear and get them ready for a swim.
    The problem with human activated alarms is the operator being in fear of being ridiculed for creating a false panic, so there is in most cases a few minute delay while they debate on whether they should trip the alarm.
    Every ship I’ve been on I make mental notes of where fire equipment is, lifejackets and lifeboats.

  • @user-mp9rd4hg8b
    @user-mp9rd4hg8b 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:26 On holding your breath (not spontaneously inhaling) after jumping into freezing water… this is so so difficult to do. you can literally inhale nothing but ocean/water and drown instantly. It's even hard to do in very cold water, well above freezing.

    • @crf80fdarkdays
      @crf80fdarkdays 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've had quite the opposite effect where it takes your breath away and you cant breath for a bit

    • @user-mp9rd4hg8b
      @user-mp9rd4hg8b 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@crf80fdarkdays The body's initial reaction is an (practically) uncontrollable inhale followed by short/shallow exhale/inhale cycles until the body acclimate a bit. But yes, it's almost impossible to exhale normally and also next to impossible to inhale normally, without taking quick breaths. That's why I inhale fully before jumping into cold water… so I don't accidentally suck in water… and I have a minute or so to "plan" my breaths. It's almost as bad as getting the wind knocked out of you. You know you aren't going to die, but not being able to breathe normally is definitely unnerving.

  • @matthewcotterill7155
    @matthewcotterill7155 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a welder, i can't imagine what it would feel like, knowing my work killed so many people.

  • @danielwelker1286
    @danielwelker1286 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20 years in the Navy glad I never had that happen 😮

  • @scottieeasley4907
    @scottieeasley4907 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    U already know there was a FINANCIALLY more EXPENSIVE option that would have prevented all this 20 years prior. There always is. But cheaper is always better cuz "we r already behind schedule we need to be DRILLING!!"

  • @NyanyiC
    @NyanyiC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for a great video. Just out of curiosity when you say men do you mean people in general or that there were no females at all involved in this?

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In this case it was only men who died. If there were any women they arent mentioned anywhere and all articles refer only to men.
      It is still today a male dominated industry but back then there were very few female workers on oil rigs.

    • @andrewsheedy6145
      @andrewsheedy6145 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Treasure hunter or treasure finder were shown in video
      Also zedco as was in field
      I never went back

  • @iwaswrongabouteveryhthing
    @iwaswrongabouteveryhthing ปีที่แล้ว +5

    massive failure in the companies' duty of care
    One weld failure should not sink this platform, idealy there should be multiple redundancies like an aeroplane
    ideally there should be a structure that can float and hold the men built into the design, forget about shitty life rafts, explosive charge releases it, food and water for 2 days, heli deck on top, can survive a roll-over, sealed doors like a submarine
    For a multi billion operation, this design wouldn't be too bad to incorporate

  • @jimvick8397
    @jimvick8397 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Any idea how much Magnaflux magnetic powder is used each year inspecting for cracks on one of these oil rigs?" Is the first question I would ask my interviewer before stepping on one of these rigs...

  • @garymoore8972
    @garymoore8972 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Was out there the night it went over.was on the bridge of the suffolk endeavour when a call came over the radio saying that there was a problem with the keiland ..it was a case of turn around and steam towards the oil field on search and rescue

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m sure that was a tough night

    • @andrewsheedy6145
      @andrewsheedy6145 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No body mentions the Ibsen @@waterlinestories

  • @sfdntk
    @sfdntk ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love your videos so much, but I still can't get used to the abrupt endings, they always gives me a split-second feeling that my internet connection has dropped out.

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks.
      I'm a bit torn on the abrupt endings. Generally a TH-cam video that ends quickly had a better% watch time because there's little to no dip of viewers dropping off after the main video ends.
      But quite a few people say it's too abrupt.
      Have to think about it.

    • @sfdntk
      @sfdntk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@waterlinestories Well it's certainly not a problem in the sense that it makes me not want to watch your videos, it's just momentarily jarring. I definitely wouldn't prefer a long, drawn-out post-video sequence.
      I think the solution is to just use intonation and sentence structure to signal the end, at the moment you end somewhat abruptly in the same tone as the rest of the video, which lacks a sense of finality. If you were to end each video by slowing down, reflecting on the lives lost (if relevant to the video, of course), maybe giving a broad summation of the event conveyed in a sentence or two, and ending the very last sentence on a tonal down-beat then the basic conventions of the English language would be enough to communicate a sense of finality.
      I'm not describing it very well, but think of the last sentence in a news report and the consistent tone all newsreaders use when they're saying it, or the final line in a dramatic movie, or the last line of an informative podcast episode - they all have this sense of bringing the piece to a conclusion, and it's conveyed partly in the sentence structure and partly in tone. It's still done and dusted in just a few seconds, but you know you've definitely reached the end.
      Again, I'm struggling to explain this well through the medium of text, but hopefully it's enough to see where I'm coming from.

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you explained that well. I've been thinking about it overnight. Part of me thinks these stories are about accidents that happen and end abruptly. I have to contemplate a bit more but maybe it conveys a little bit of the sudden finality these men would have experienced.
      That's maybe a bit philosophical. I think you're right on this.

    • @aliquotidian
      @aliquotidian ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thoughts on ending (change from 2 cents will be given): A number of channels end with a logo or set image. Some covering accidents will have image of affected vehicle (airplane, ship) and text such as " in memory of the 123 men lost in this tragedy"; there are a few that will list their names. Rather than a spoken end statement, these screens hold for long enough to let even a distracted listener see that the video has reached its intended conclusion. As to a spoken 'flag' - the subject matter doesn't really lend itself to "thats all folks".... sometimes silence is more impactful than words. A standard, canned voice-over of "thanks for watching, please remember to like and subscribe " is definitely jarring given the subject matter.

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aliquotidian Thank, thats not a bad idea.
      I think a final image along with a change in tone to signify the end is probably whats needed.
      I also dont like the 'give us a like and subscribe' A sophisticated audience knows what to do if they want to do that.
      Thanks for your input

  • @shingerz
    @shingerz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How terrible rip to those lost

  • @haakonht
    @haakonht 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There were many lessons learned from the loss of the Kielland, and I guess in a sense it was good it was not a production platform and there was a very limited environmental impact.

  • @philosophyofmany4317
    @philosophyofmany4317 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    May they rest in peace.

  • @CharlieApples
    @CharlieApples 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s so surreal seeing an oil rig move around a stationary platform in sped up footage lol. It’s like a nature documentary.

  • @sneekerskeekers_696
    @sneekerskeekers_696 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good video 👍

  • @mumbles_ttv
    @mumbles_ttv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yes another one i know iv not been commenting recently but im still lurking lol and love the channel

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. Yes I see you pop up from time to time. Glad to have you around.

  • @markchapman2585
    @markchapman2585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats insane

  • @bruceleehee9267
    @bruceleehee9267 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is why x ray welds is a absolute must

  • @jeffjackson8381
    @jeffjackson8381 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Worked on the rigs as a scaffolder/rigger for 15yrs, and have seen cracks in weld's, small ones were ignored and put on the monitor list, I tried to keep off those rigs when I had the option 🧐🥺🥺😡

  • @erikhesjedal3569
    @erikhesjedal3569 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of my uncle's best friends died on this

  • @gorporpio
    @gorporpio 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was is leased? If so, which company?

  • @oganvildevil
    @oganvildevil 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Platform was like watch this! And did the splits

  • @RatusMax
    @RatusMax 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I could never be a seaman. Every time something starts to tilt, I am running to the top ready to jump. I would always question the safety procedures over and over again and look at the rust and decay over and over again to see if there is some change. I am paranoid. Just recently my foundation cracked. The drought made the house move because the ground became so dry it shrank and moved away from the house. WHY WON'T IT RAIN!!

  • @C-Here
    @C-Here 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just so heartbreaking.. such a huge loss of life...😢😢😢
    Why on earth weren't all the men trained before any storm came? Putting on life jackets for starters..
    I worked in a care home years ago- every 12 weeks we had fire drill, i wonder WHY these poor souls never had any 'just in case' drills?? 💔

  • @paulrash8861
    @paulrash8861 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The sea knows not a soul

  • @dragonyami
    @dragonyami 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This ended so abruptly I thought my video was buffering or something

  • @anja2716
    @anja2716 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does this need to be asked?
    Are the life saving vessels now distributed and stored on some or all sides of rigs nowadays?

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To some degree. But some areas have working equipment and so they cant be placed all around the rig.

    • @Master-Disaster
      @Master-Disaster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you mean standby vessels, in the North Sea at least, every installation these days needs a standby vessel near the installation to make effective recovery of survivors. The trouble with this incident is that there were problems launching the lifeboats which ended up with persons going into the icy sea, despite having standby vessels.

  • @rkpang4059
    @rkpang4059 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    id say those welds are a little more then a fillet weld. most anything offshore is full penetration. sorry if i spelled anything wrong im a welder.

  • @nutwatch1854
    @nutwatch1854 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I read it as "this pope" and now my disappointment is immeasurable.

  • @vanessaxoax7646
    @vanessaxoax7646 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You keep showing images of freefall lifeboats, however, the Kielland to my knowledge did not have freefall lifeboats.

    • @Master-Disaster
      @Master-Disaster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It didn't - it had davit launched lifeboats, which couldn't be released from the hooks properly as they didn't have on load release hooks which are mandatory these days.

  • @momchilandonov
    @momchilandonov 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Strange that such an expensive and important equipment wasn't being checked for fatigue cracks periodically...

    • @Master-Disaster
      @Master-Disaster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was, just on the load bearing welds - this weld wasn't load bearing.

  • @yggdrasil9039
    @yggdrasil9039 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I seem to recall it also being something to do with a modification to one of the braces that weakened it.

    • @Master-Disaster
      @Master-Disaster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It wasn't the brace that was modified, but a plate that was welded onto the brace to attach an instrument. The weld on the plate was welded poorly, and a crack developed in it which propogated into the brace.

    • @yggdrasil9039
      @yggdrasil9039 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Master-Disaster That's right yes. I always find it strange that after a structure is built, others come along and merrily attach things to the original structure as if that won't have any effect on the structure, when in this case it resulted in the deaths of 123. It's almost as bad as Piper Alpha, yet that accident is far more famous (because more spectacular I suppose.)

    • @Master-Disaster
      @Master-Disaster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@yggdrasil9039 You're right about it being less famous - I'm a structural engineer in the offshore industry, and it always annoys me when people focus purely on hydrocarbon releases like Piper, when there are other major accident hazards like the Kielland which also deserve to be recognised.

  • @humanshape7776
    @humanshape7776 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be cool if the video description was a description of the video instead of an ad

  • @351clevelandmodifiedmotor4
    @351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the life boat launch would be scary AF😂

    • @user-nv7jy6hj7v
      @user-nv7jy6hj7v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When we built the Visund and Troll C rigs they offered the workers a chance to take part in doing a test run of the life boats. Plenty of folks did it, but not me, hell no.

  • @agauld3212
    @agauld3212 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Find it hard to believe that a brace would just be a fillet weld. Surley would have been full pen, stick root and flux core fill and cap with a ut test and mag crack test minimum

  • @vorda400
    @vorda400 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is unbelievable that one weld can be responsible for the disintegration of an entire platform
    Perhaps the platform itself is designed with maximum savings in mind, so one such bad point can trigger a whole chain of other mistakes that were overlooked due to cost cutting.

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think of one weld is week and gives way then others that follow are probably not as strong as needed either.

    • @vorda400
      @vorda400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@waterlinestories In most cases, all such constructions are made to maximize time and material savings within the limits of safety and usability
      probably the combination of that with the human factor and weather conditions that put everything to the test unfortunately did not pass
      But anyway another well done video

    • @Master-Disaster
      @Master-Disaster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Back in the 70's when the rig was designed, we didn't have advanced computer stress analysis packages to run structural analyses. It was mostly done by hand calculation which was time intensive. So back then the non-redundant design wasn't really picked up, but these days modern computer packages would pick it up. And when it comes to fatigue, fatigue life is dominated by minor defects in the weld which even modern computer packages struggle to predict with certainty.

    • @vorda400
      @vorda400 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Master-Disaster And these are specific projects, there is little room for deviation, but unfortunately we see that they are happening

  • @samueldavis5895
    @samueldavis5895 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know of a pipe that has killed millions…

  • @almilhouse9059
    @almilhouse9059 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is exactly why women live longer.... So sad so many men were lost, how one can recover from such an event.
    Hopefully this never happens again, life is nojoke.....

  • @minime5380
    @minime5380 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s horrifying 😱

  • @Master-Disaster
    @Master-Disaster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The issue with the lifeboats (which were davit launched not freefall lifeboats) was more to do with the inability to release them from the cables under load. These days lifeboats have on load release hooks. I have a bit more footage of the actual rig capsized and severed leg in my worst offshore disasters video (the Kielland is no. 2 in the list) th-cam.com/video/1i8k-ya-MEE/w-d-xo.html . The Buchan installation that was used in the UK had the exact same design and design flaws, and was only recently taken off station, 30 years after this accident.

  • @pixpusha
    @pixpusha 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Edder actually held on better when it was the Kielann that was supposed to be the refuge. Truly sad.

  • @andysPARK
    @andysPARK 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Possible to cover the USS John McCain' shipping collision?

  • @romanregman1469
    @romanregman1469 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What happened with the weld inspector(s)?

  • @gtech7577
    @gtech7577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dunno why but everytime i watch a video for some reason for brief moment you look like you laying on leather bed while telling the story. Love content😂

  • @fukkyoutube
    @fukkyoutube 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    see i would never wait to be told to leave if shtf id be on my way out

  • @Hammerandhearth
    @Hammerandhearth 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    would love to know if this would have happened if the platform were riveted instead of welded.

  • @kil-roy
    @kil-roy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can't wait to see titan submersible video?

  • @WarrenHolly
    @WarrenHolly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They don't inspect these welds weekly