I cant seem to win with these brakes, initially setup and alignment was a pain in the ass The green std pads, make a slight squeel sound... The other ones included, red or purple, Make the front make a loud howl (ive tried new pads and rotors together aswell)
Squeel is normal for hope, it seems. Ive been fighting it with tech3v4 and could not get rid of it. And then watching some videos on yt, including of this guy, just seems like many people have them squeeling. Unfortunate but that is how it is.
After 3 yrs of ownership as a hope fan I refrained from commenting but let's say I'm retiring these with joy in my heart, excellent brakes. Reliable? Yes I suppose if you can get them working right. 😂
where are you riding in the video? im getting a bit bored of dwellingup every weekend and these trails look fun as lol. only ask cause of the wage clip at the start
Are they 2.3mm TRP rotors? If so do they work well with them in comparison to the hope rotors? I know that TRP don’t recommend running their 2.3mm rotor with any other brakes but I take it it works fine?
They are hopes new 2.3 mm thick rotors. But I assume they are essentially the same as the TRP rotors. Just like centreline and shimano icetech rotors work with any brake, I reckon the TRPs and these hopes will be interchangeable too. Most companies seem not to recommend using their products with other brands but i reckon it’s pretty well known it’s all interchangeable. I haven’t ran the brakes but a couple of my mates do and they feel phenomenal. Super smooth and light lever feel which I like. If I had to get new brakes now I’d toss up between these hopes, the TRPs and the Hayes dominions
I’ve had brand new shimano saints and ran them for a few years. The power of the hopes are definitely greater. New brakes always feel super strong but these are super strong to everyone who feels them. I also gave them a bleed a couple days ago and it’s made the lever feel more consistent again and brought a lot of power back. Modulation of these are also different. People say shimanos are on/off but they really aren’t, the modulation is just in your fingers whereas these are in the lever. Depends what you prefer. I got used to both and like both
@@dndjxnskdbajd4561The surron is less expensive than a high end mountain bike, and certainly less expensive than a decent e-mountain bike. That is how I ended up with my Talaria; I was in the market for an electric mountain bike and saw the prices.
I run them on my Surron, as do everyone in my crew who can afford them. They are the best, bar none. Just make sure you get the V4; I have the E4 and they’re fine, but I really wish I would have spent the few extra dollars for the V4. The Surron is so heavy and fast that every bit of extra braking power is useful.
I watched the video that Hope have for the tech 3, and it’s really the same process. Definitely easier with a friend who can work the lever while you do the caliper or vise versa. The video shows it really good, just get some fresh dot 5 oil and follow it. Mine just took a good 4 or so bleeds to get really good for some reason🤷♂️
I only needed a lever bleed, fitted them yesterday. There's a video on hopes channel around ahortening the cable, worked great. I highly recommend you lube pistons before fitting. Mine were sticky 🙃
Really short long term review. Lul. However that's what i would expect at this age point. Getting too much in details and you'll forget why you need them
@donnpass9473 Disagreed. Replaced both sets of my hc3 mt7's for Hopes over the course of a year. The Hopes win in build quality, modulation, power, easy of use, durability. The Maguras have a bit more initial bite, however in the PNW with many slick roots and steep trails, I don't like this.
@LoganJohnston-rn6dn this your opinion and you like HOPE better i dont like hope lever at all, modulation not for me, i ride most of DH/hard enduro trails and they work good for me. I probably go for shimano saint than HOPE
How far is the difference between tech4 e4 and v4? I want to buy a tech 4 v4, but only the tech 4 e4 is available in our local store.
I cant seem to win with these brakes,
initially setup and alignment was a pain in the ass
The green std pads, make a slight squeel sound...
The other ones included, red or purple, Make the front make a loud howl
(ive tried new pads and rotors together aswell)
Squeel is normal for hope, it seems. Ive been fighting it with tech3v4 and could not get rid of it. And then watching some videos on yt, including of this guy, just seems like many people have them squeeling. Unfortunate but that is how it is.
After 3 yrs of ownership as a hope fan I refrained from commenting but let's say I'm retiring these with joy in my heart, excellent brakes.
Reliable? Yes I suppose if you can get them working right. 😂
where are you riding in the video? im getting a bit bored of dwellingup every weekend and these trails look fun as lol. only ask cause of the wage clip at the start
@@shipofbeers this was nannup
+Reuben van den Dool Hows modulation on these? Now running ZEE brakes but want less ON/OFF feel for the manuals and stuff
Much more modulation than the Zees for sure. It’s a nice linear relationship between the lever pull and the stopping power I’d say
Are they 2.3mm TRP rotors? If so do they work well with them in comparison to the hope rotors? I know that TRP don’t recommend running their 2.3mm rotor with any other brakes but I take it it works fine?
Also, have you run the TRP DH-r EVO brakes? If so how do they compare?
They are hopes new 2.3 mm thick rotors. But I assume they are essentially the same as the TRP rotors. Just like centreline and shimano icetech rotors work with any brake, I reckon the TRPs and these hopes will be interchangeable too. Most companies seem not to recommend using their products with other brands but i reckon it’s pretty well known it’s all interchangeable. I haven’t ran the brakes but a couple of my mates do and they feel phenomenal. Super smooth and light lever feel which I like. If I had to get new brakes now I’d toss up between these hopes, the TRPs and the Hayes dominions
Thanks for the help
If you have ridden shimano brakes, how do they compare to say 4 pot xts.
I’ve had brand new shimano saints and ran them for a few years. The power of the hopes are definitely greater. New brakes always feel super strong but these are super strong to everyone who feels them. I also gave them a bleed a couple days ago and it’s made the lever feel more consistent again and brought a lot of power back. Modulation of these are also different. People say shimanos are on/off but they really aren’t, the modulation is just in your fingers whereas these are in the lever. Depends what you prefer. I got used to both and like both
Are they better than the 3v 4v? For surrons
All the big money ballers in my surron crew run Tech 4's. Universally loved.
@@ghlibisk67 if you can afford a surron i’d imagine you could afford these brakes lmao
@@dndjxnskdbajd4561The surron is less expensive than a high end mountain bike, and certainly less expensive than a decent e-mountain bike. That is how I ended up with my Talaria; I was in the market for an electric mountain bike and saw the prices.
I run them on my Surron, as do everyone in my crew who can afford them. They are the best, bar none. Just make sure you get the V4; I have the E4 and they’re fine, but I really wish I would have spent the few extra dollars for the V4. The Surron is so heavy and fast that every bit of extra braking power is useful.
Just ordered a set of these. Any tips you could give me on the bleed process?
I watched the video that Hope have for the tech 3, and it’s really the same process. Definitely easier with a friend who can work the lever while you do the caliper or vise versa. The video shows it really good, just get some fresh dot 5 oil and follow it. Mine just took a good 4 or so bleeds to get really good for some reason🤷♂️
@@reubenvandendool ahhh kk thanks for the reply.
@@justing6614 no worfies
I only needed a lever bleed, fitted them yesterday. There's a video on hopes channel around ahortening the cable, worked great. I highly recommend you lube pistons before fitting. Mine were sticky 🙃
@@MTB_FPV yea i ended up lubricating pistons straight away myn where sticky too
Really short long term review. Lul. However that's what i would expect at this age point. Getting too much in details and you'll forget why you need them
Yep. And everything I said stands true still. They work the exact same, not too many issues
Is this Nannup?
@@LouisCollison-rj5ks it is indeed
Which is better, this brakes or the mt7 with h3c levers? I am a heavy guy so I really need every bit of breaking power.
Whatever you prefer both have bulk power
magura mt7 hc3 levers much more power had both
@donnpass9473 Disagreed. Replaced both sets of my hc3 mt7's for Hopes over the course of a year. The Hopes win in build quality, modulation, power, easy of use, durability. The Maguras have a bit more initial bite, however in the PNW with many slick roots and steep trails, I don't like this.
@LoganJohnston-rn6dn this your opinion and you like HOPE better i dont like hope lever at all, modulation not for me, i ride most of DH/hard enduro trails and they work good for me. I probably go for shimano saint than HOPE
@@donnpassMTB yep, these are all just our opinions haha
Does e4 and v4 share the same lever?
Yep
Have They More Power Then sram Code rsc?
Way more
You still using these ? Any issues ?
Yeah still using them. No major issues I can think of nah
Set and forget doesn’t apply to hope brakes