Thank you so much for the compliment, my friend! Glad you enjoyed it. The magic of the P-10 goes beyond what you can put on paper… did my best to capture it. Happy new year!
The recoil impulse is so much better than any G19 I have ever shot, no comparison. My daily carry, over 2.5k rounds with zero malfunctions. Only things I’ve done to it is double the cost by adding an optic, talon grips and dpm recoil system and light.
@@Brett235 Well said. They’re not bad guns… and if you like them, more power to you. But I agree-other options execute the same fundamentals in a better way.
Cz is amazing. It’s without one of the best handguns you can get and extremely affordable. Everyone that told me otherwise at the range went and bought one after shooting mine
Pausing at 2:08 seconds was an awesome shot at some of the greats! Awesome video as always! The p10c is sort of a secret in modern utilitarian pistols!!!
Thanks, my man! Really appreciate you watching and all the support. And I agree: the P-10 is phenomenal for its intended role. Hopefully more people will discover it.
@HipsterTactical absolutely Matt!!! You're fine details and expression of what it feels like to own and shoot these guns have kept me watching everyone you bring out. You're video of the p88c is also why I now have a p88!! They don't make guns like they used to!! And the p10c represent great modern simplicity and IKEA type guns!!!
Yeah, I liked the P-07. Definitely every bit as accurate as the P-10. But, with a stockpile of mid-sized DA/SA guns... I dunno. The P-10C seemed more compelling. Thanks!
Nice assessment man, just subbed to you 👍 I had kind of recently picked up a P10c which was notable to me since I only had one other striker type pew. I specifically wanted something like my VP9. Like you, I mostly preferred da/sa or 1911s for the better part of 20 years. I wanted something that was very similar to the VP9 and that might be like how I’d want a Glock to be if they would just finally make a generation that seemed like, well a new generation. Overall, I think I picked a good option out there on the market that compares very well to my VP9, and the price was really reasonable.
Shot a Glock, shot a CZ...now own a P10F, C and S. Bang for the buck can't be beat. I had to adjust the rear sight on 2 of the 3, but that's just part of owning a gun. Also did some polishing on the firing pin/block, trigger group, etc and it got even better! Might look at springs next. I might be a 1911 guy at heart...I gotta tinker and tweak!
Cool, man. Yeah, the trigger is already good… but I know there are solutions to make it better. Either way, it’s a great starting point for a great shooter. Thanks for the comment!
@HipsterTactical I agree. I'd be disappointed if it was perfect out of the box and there was nothing for me to tweak on. 4.5# Glock firing pin springs are in the mail and a DPM recoil kit for the C. We shall see.
HB Industries trigger upgrade is so amazing and cheap you're really missing out not at least checking it out. Getting a metal trigger shoe and the spring upgrade really improves an already awesome trigger.
Great video. Not a CZ owner. Glock, and love the Walther PDP Pro as a polymer framed pistol alternative, due mainly to the trigger. However, much of what you say about the CZ P10 aligns with what I’ve heard from others who know their stuff. 👍🏻
Thank you, sir! Yeah, the Walther PDPs/PPQs/P99s are fantastic. My P99 is probably favorite striker-fired pistol. But... I think the Walthers kinda fill a different niche; they have SAO triggers (or, DA/SA with the P99). Glocks of course work fine... but I really enjoy the P-10's take on the Glock "paradigm." Thanks for the comment!
@@HipsterTactical cross eyed dominant as well. I didn't realize it was a thing even when I was in Army I remember my first time with the M16A2 I just naturally put it in my left hand and naturally shot the M9 with my right. No one ever noticed that I was doing it and they were just concerned whether I would qualify or be a no-go requiring a re-shoot.
Great thoughts, you clearly know quite something about many guns. As a CZ shareholder, I must say that "we" made progress in adjusting details in a simply clever way - the philosophy really is to get to the top by pure meritocracy, not by marketing which our famous Austrian colleague did rather well. CZ P-10C is still a rather ordinary pistol by looks, not that far from the Glock, and it was mass-purchased by ordinary institutions like the Czech police and army. I think that lots of people may still pay the double and they should try the CZ Shadow 2 Compact instead. With at least the same quality of the trigger and other things as P-10C, it has 2-5% greater linear dimensions, 10% extra weight, but the fit and finish simply is at a higher level than the P-10C. The Shadow 2 pistols have a real character, the extra color symbolizes it.
Hey, thank you for the kind words! The video speaks for itself, of course--but I think "you" did a great job in making an "ordinary" pistol shoot and feel... special. From a business standpoint, I think it speaks to the same customers of your Austrian counterpart, but it offers a tangible point of difference in terms of the shooting and handling; like you said, merit not marketing. I'd love to try a Shadow 2 Compact! Or a full size model. A little expensive for me right now, but someday. Let me know if I can ever assist with product reviews or anything else that pertains to marketing (that's what I do for my "day" job). Thanks again!
Thanks, you should ideally be sent some other guns to try. Too bad I don't have the courage to persuade someone now. The optimization of the grip, adequate pressure of the trigger, speed of operations, small details on the shape... All these things are somewhat typical for Czech engineering when it works. If you drove Škodas with their simple clever details, you would probably agree it is a similar strategy of optimization which isn't quite revolutionary but isn't tiny, either. Like the Smart Dials controls, umbrellas in doors, icescrapers with magnifying glass, magnets and hooks to secure luggage in the trunk, charging cable on the bottom of the trunk door instead of beneath the luggage, dozens of other details. The compact Shadow is better with optics. It would be painful otherwise after CZ bought a prominent optics company. The purchase of Sellier and Bellot ammunition was way more expensive but the leaders of CZ obviously concluded that ammunition and not just guns is what the epoch of wars might need. There is various interesting progress. Among rifles, Bren "1" was subpar, Bren 2 fixed the main bugs. So Bren 3 is out now, with modular construction. The heart around the trigger and what does the work is the same, all the peripheries are completely new, and the whole is made even more robust and unbreakable simply because the fights in Ukraine have shown that it is needed. For videos and to impress friends on one's garden, one may play with a rifle in the mud etc. But on the battlefront, one sees that this controlled resilience is still not enough. Things have to be made really well given Czechs' hostility to hype and jealousy. However, emotions do exist, the acquisition of Colt was the cutest moment because lots of us were breastfed with Karl May and Westerns and Colt is the top brand there. The romantic love to America here is still partly a relationship to America of the 1830s or so when Czechs started to move to red states to help the solid foundation of rednecks, so different from other groups. It just happens that Lemonade Joe, the most famous Czech parody Western from 1964 or so, has many lines about a Smith and Wesson hanging damn low. Most people believe that the movie talks about Colt, anyway. So the decades of Colt's struggling are unknown here, even to relative gun experts.
A lot of people talk bad about CZ and praise colt in the same breath. Then I realise they don't know CZ owns Colt, so I get to tell them lol. CZ makes some the best, most reliable, firearms on the planet. I have a Dan Wesson revolver, pre, CZ and I've shot Dan Wesson post CZ and CZ made them better. CZ, Colt, and Dan Wesson, are some of the best firearms on the planet IMHO. I've owned my 75 B for over 20 years and there's nothing that can replace it but another CZ!
I own and carry a P10S every day for the last 2 years. It shoots accurate, the out of the box trigger is great and due to how flat it shoots, follow up shots are a breeze. My only gripe with the P10 Series of pistols are, the spiral roll pins holding the front and rear inserts, it's literally the Achilles heel of the P10. It's mind boggling that CZ has not moved over to push pins like S&W and Canik. BTW Glock has been using push pins since day one.
I would argue that there is one good trigger that has been good since the early 90s. The Walter P 99. That trigger is simply amazing by today’s standards and to think it was made in the 90s is pretty crazy.
@@Sig_P229 Yeah, I definitely agree. I touch on the P99 in my written review of the P-10C. And I have a full review on my gen 1 P99 if you’re interested. Thanks so much for watching!
@@Sig_P229 Thanks, man. Appreciate you watching. Sorry if I didn’t recognize your YT handle… I recall you commenting better. But yeah, it ain’t a cheap hobby 😁 Thanks again and happy holidays.
@ it was developed by Horest Wesp in the early 90s after he left Glock and Steyr. It was not available until around 96 and 97. Additionally the trigger and the internals are the same as the PPQ that rivaled the P10c in this video. The only difference was it was developed decades prior.
Thank you so much, man! Appreciate the comment in the tracks. I’m kinda gettin formula down, as far as production. And yes… CZs seem nicer than they should be. And they always impress at the range. Thanks again!
I bought a P-10 C a couple of months ago out of curiosity. In spite of my lack of a personal attraction to polymer, striker-fired pistols I find myself really liking this gun. Being a hammer-fired pistol cat myself, I wonder whether you've had your mits on a Shadow 2 or a Shadow 2 Compact?
I'm kinda in the same boat--I bought a P-07 around the same time, and I ended up liking the P-10 better. I've handled a Shadow 2... never owned one. Though I did just buy a P-01... which is really a nice shooter. The ergos are fantastic and it handles naturally. Trigger is solid. Though I am finding it to be more ammo finicky. More to come... Thanks!
I never warmed up to the P10s. I remember when it first came out, it was touted as THE Glock killer, but look at it now, it's being blown out for $350 vs the $650 it was at launch. I agree with your points in the review, it's impressive what CZ pulled off with it from a technical standpoint. There are so many little things about it that turned me off of it, though... better than good enough, but not by that much. I think CZ can make a better pistol with what they learned with on the P10. With how cheap the prices have gotten on them, I'dve bet a P10 Gen 2 would have come out at least a couple years ago, but surprisingly that hasn't happened yet.
I love that you are laying down some truth here. I’m not a Glock enthusiast AT ALL, but they’re reliable…Glock makes a decent pistol I must admit. But being one of the only firearms manufacturers that had as big of a buzz feed around them and so many years have gone by with every Glock fanboy and fangirl touting the design like it’s the end all pistol, I can see why people as of 2024 like to hate on them, however they [Glock] aren’t crazy famous with one of the most hard headed and staunchly dedicated fan bases for no reason. My point, which I believe is your point as well is that they’re nowhere near the quality of the P-10…I’ve never held a more balanced Polymer framed Pistol…or fired a striker design that has a totally crispy and definitive, clean break with small reset. Not crispy like a 1911, or any single action hammer fire gun, but damn good considering the P-10 has displayed zero creep and uber consistent trigger travel, and that is a shocker for me, because most striker fire pistols I’ve fired had what felt like a variable on when the trigger wall would break and the gun would discharge. Not the P-10. Same wall every shot, every time. Lastly, not that really matters where it counts, but the P-10 is also sexier in looks than any Glock I’ve ever laid eyes on. Great review man, I have the same view. It’s a Glock Grinder.
Thanks so much for the compliments, my friend. Yeah, I think we’re on the same page… Glocks are good guns. No doubt. But with the work CZ put into ergonomics, trigger and overall feel, I just feel-objectively-the P-10 is a better product. Glocks have always “won” on paper, in terms size, weight, capacity, reliability and price. But think CZ adds a layer of enhanced shootability into that equation. Thanks again and take care!
AREX redesigned the G19 via CAD. Bubitz (former Glock Engineer) developed the new Steyr M9. S&W claims an excellent polymer 9. CZ has a long tradition... only makes sense that improved iterations would come along.
Right-handed but left-eye dominant right? I noticed while you shot the pistol. Same thing here for me :)) I love my P-10C - just wish I waited a bit for the Optic Ready version. I still rock a Red Dot on mine with a plate. I tried Glocks on shooting ranges here, but I just prefer the P-10, maybe I am biased because I am Czech :)))
A competitor in IDPA I shoot with had 130,000+ rounds through his P10C before failure. CZ sent him a new one in exchange for sending it back to them. I have had several and the best I can say is that it’s an acceptable striker pistol. I’m a DA/SA guy for carry and competition. My EDC is HK LEM with an LTT RDO.
I mean, 130,000 sounds like you’re getting your money’s worth. And it’s cool CZ stood by their product. Thanks for the insight. I’m more of a DA/SA guy, too. Mainly Sigs. Thanks again!
This 'review' or thoughts on the P-10C is easily the most accurate and realistic to what its like to own a P10C. I've owned Sig, Canik, Glock and went to a local gun show and was able to handle dozens of 9mm options. At its price point of $550 and bellow, its easily the best option out there. If i go up in price, then the more refined H&K, Sigs, Walther's and Gucci-Glocks start to make it apparent why those cost 25-100% more. I see this firearm as a the perfect, utilitarian tool. Its like a Casio G-shock if you were to compare it to watches. Its giving you a lot for your money, but its not trying to be anything more than what its intended to be. I really appreciate his perspective on the trigger. I too feel that the trigger could be made better. But here is the thing, It's already better than Sig and Glock, so why should it be any better? its because the platform / foundation is SOO good that it can handle it. It's like driving a base model car like a BMW 320i and noticing a bit that the balance and proportions are excellent. You start thinking, 'wouldn't it be great to tune it?' Next things you know you've got a M3. It is all because the foundation to start with was able to reveal the opportunity for more. Nobody would ever think that for a Prius because it was compromised from the beginning. That to me is why the Gucci Glocks dont make sense. Yes, they feel and shoot great, However, you are having to fix all the problems/flaws to just end up paying 2x the price.
Glock is the greatest demonstration of the power of advertising, nostalgia, and aftermarket support and how those things can keep an antique relevant. Glock hasn't innovated since its creation nearly 40 years ago and has coasted off aftermarket and past advertisements.
I'm thinking updated p10 Nocturne are coming. Would want the trigger to be a little more sure when smooshing through the wall. The p09c Nocturne traction is amazing that'show should be done Grizzly hair traction is good too....did they keep single trigger bar on that or internal upades? I had Beretta vid today check it oht
Oh really? They're giving the P-10 the "Nocturne" treatment, too? Cool. I'm sure if they changed the trigger bar on the P-09 Nocturne series. I'll have to look into that. I'll check your Beretta vid, too! Thanks, man!
I had CZ P10S previously and now I own G19 MOS as they are close in size. P10s shoots great and the trigger is definitely better than stock Glock trigger, but new Glock performance trigger is superior to CZs trigger. And since Glock is easier to mantain and replace parts, has cheaper mags and where I live its almost the same price P10 kinda lost point for me.
I like the p10c but i cant say it’s *better* than a glock 19. If you can shoot a p10c but not a glock, then you can’t shoot. Personally the increase in size makes carrying the p10c more like a g17, and the texture seems too sharp for iwb
At this point, I can shoot just about anything... as long as it has proper rifling and a sub-20lb trigger. But there's no reason not to choose what feels more natural and intuitive. And I suspect most people will find the P-10 more natural than a Glock. Though that's certainly not a given.
If you can shoot a P10C, why would you need to shoot a G19? Seems like a strawman. I simply refused to pay $200 or for a gen 5 Glock for a stick of butter design and a grip angle I hate and the Dagger would need a trigger after purchase. CZ was a one and done for sub $400.
@ Holy fanboy, i bought a police trade in 17 with night sights for 100 dollars less than a p10. Everyone needs to be able to shoot a glock well, because they’re by far the most common platform around. The p10 isn’t more reliable, accurate, or shootable than a glock. I can certainly understand preferring the p10, its grip is more natural to me and i prefer the aesthetics and oem metal sights. I also love shooting them both equally, but I prefer the glock simply to be ubiquitous and enjoy the increased aftermarket and availability of parts. I also still believe the 19 is a better carry gun than a p10c, it’s noticeably smaller and has a more conducive grip texture.
@@josephlegacy929 Enjoy your G17. I bought mine for a helluva price too. I like it. It's a good gun. But I think the P-10 is better--not because it's more reliable, but because it's designed better in terms of its human interface. And I absolutely thing the P-10 platform is more shootable than a Glock--though that's not to say Glocks are poor shooters.
@@HipsterTactical I think if that was the case p10s would dominate the competition market, but they don’t. If you *can’t* get used to the glock grip angle you either haven’t shot one enough or you just have a hate boner for glock. Im not a glock fanboy, im just trying to be objective here. My favorite handgun is still the 1911 which is so far removed from glock that I should have every reason to hate them. When I started shooting they 1911s pointed more naturally for me, but after even just a small amount of time and training the difference was gone. I also appreciate the exaggerated angle from a recoil control perspective. Yes the p10 has a more natural grip for most people, but that doesn’t mean the p10 magically shoots better than glocks.
Your right on all accounts. CZ designs and manufactures its guns (pistol & rifles) exquisitely. There's something in their water fountain, the CZ people produce QUALITY prroducts.. My CZs: 52, 457 Lux, PO-9 Full Size SR OR, P10-F. I also own HKs, Walthers and Glocks. All full size except a VP9 SK. CZs all have solid, tight, accurate, construction. No mods needed.
So many striker-fired triggers let go somewhere along their twenty miles of squishy road, which is strange, considering the reality that many rifles have excellent striker-fired mechanisms. But the original customers for Glock were more worried about cops who can't avoid negligent discharges than about accuracy.
I’d like to try one. I’ve got a few others to tackle first, review wise. But I’ll grab one someday I’m sure. They do have really nice triggers, from dry-fire experience. Thanks!
I've had a lot of CZ's, several were poly guns. The issues I had were with the initial early magazine release and a broken, mis-tempered firing pin. My only design complaint was the shape of the magwell on the C version. I sold my C and kept the P10F, which I love.
@HipsterTactical It really does make a fantastic shooter. The really cool thing is you can run the compact slide, threaded barrel, and a comp and have an absolute flat shooting gun all within the same dimensions as the reg F slide. I'm not sure why we don't see this combo on a regular basis.
Ive had both glock and cz p10 pistols and i honestly just prefer the simplicity of my glock. Theres a reason the glovk still has a huge market to this day and no matter how much people crap on glock it will never go away. Enjoy your new fancy pistols comig out every few months and let the rest of us enjoy our glocks
@@HipsterTactical I just ended up getting the Cajun stainless guide rod and ismi spring. The stock rate on the 10c is 20lb. Stock rate on the 10F is 16lb.
So I don’t own a p10c I went with the s model. I actually traded the last glock I owned towards it. So I’m not a glock hater I have owned 3 of them I want to like them but I just can’t. They don’t feel good in the hand blah blah all the reasons people don’t like them. I really think you get so much more for the money with the cz 50 to 75 bucks cheaper locally anyways. The finish is very good I have a p07 same thing they don’t scuff easy. Your getting metal sights with most would agree a better sight picture and there night sights your not paying extra for any of this like glock metal mag release maybe not a deal breaker but if you want that for glock your are paying extra. And this is just to me I’m not an expert but I have worked in a few machine shops in my life the cz feels better made the rails are beefy the chamber is fully supported is that needed for a 9mm probably not but it just kinda shows that it’s over built I believe it can take every bit of abuse cz claims to have put it through. The barrel cold hammer forged in house I believe. Like said in this video and I would have to agree with just about everything said in this review it’s a very good one and I’ll be subbing to the channel glocks are great guns cz just did this better.
DA/SA triggers suck. Nothing is as sweet as a 1911 trigger. Second would be a Colt or Smith revolver in single action. That said, if I don't know where I'll end up I'd choose to pack a Glock. Why? because they all work the same, and they all work (unless you start tinkering with them). More guns, more rounds, more situations than CZ. Proven track record. Still pretty much the same gun that was introduced, what, 40+ years ago. Can't say the same for CZ's striker fired guns. As to striker fired pistol triggers, I'll take my Canik SFX Rival. Its as close to my 1911's as I've found.
I have loved my P10C since I first purchased it back in late 2018. Also I had the privilege of speaking with some Czech soldiers I ran into when I was a contractor in Afghanistan in 2017. They were carrying Glock 17s but told me they were switching to the P10 series. If its good enough for them to carry in Afghanistan it is definitely good enough for me. Its is a poly-striker wonder and for the price I cannot see why a lot more people don't have one in their collection.
Well said, my friend. Thank you for your service and thank you for sharing that insight. I have read that that the Czechs were switching to the P-10s. That's a solid endorsement, I think. As good as the P-10C shoots... I can only imagine how well the F shoots. Thanks for watching!
If you like DA SA you need to get a P07. I LOVE mine. Grew up learning on DASA. Love my two 10C's too. One OR and one regular irons. The 10C is what got me into CZ.
I own both a 10C and a Gen5 G19. The P10C is a better value (and the Glock sights are an abomination) but for me, I prefer the G19. The trigger on the gen 5 doesn't bother me at all. I actually prefer the ergos on the Glock. They're both very reliable guns and I don't think you can go wrong either way.
That's totally fair. I pulled trigger on a Gen 5--not bad. I think Glock has very "specific" ergonomics--the angle, the hump. It can definitely work. But for me, the P-10's ergos are kind of an "instant get."
I'm not used to seeing you review striker fired pistol, usually metal hammer fired guns. But P10 is probably 1 of the best striker fired pistols on the market.
I dig the p10 series for sure buuut….aside from a marginal advantage from the trigger, Gen 5 Glocks get the job done & I have invested too much time to really change - and a minus connector/polish fixes that heavy feel without sacrificing reliability, and my groupings are identical to the p10c. The only other polymer striker I have is the M&P. For a 1st time shooter though, I definitely encourage people to rent a p10/M&P/PDP/FN 509/Canik or even the new Echelon along with a Glock before deciding which to get. Can’t really go wrong with any of these brands as far as maintenance and options for the average shooter.
I think a lot of manufacturers could take some cues from CZ on the P-10. They did a hell of a job on this gun... honestly for any price, let alone what they're asking. Thanks!
I have at least one out almost every top well and lesser known pistol manufacturers. I have multiple handguns in every genre of handguns from percussion cap antique s to 2024 releases, wood, steel, polymer, wheels hammers and strikers. Outside of heavy dao pocket revolvers and the 12lbs+ New York triggers, no "bad" 20th/21st century trigger has ever hindered my shooting ability. Sure a 2lbs, glass rod, 0 take up, gamer 1911 trigger is nice, but thats just a nice luxury, not even close to a need and much less a true requirement, especially in a real life high stress emergency situation. Here it looks like a lot of commenters have only shot a couple of different brands or types of hand guns..ever. It's not the trigger, it's the shooter.
I see any gun/trigger that helps more people shoot more accurately more often as... good. And while I can put rounds through the same hole with my staple-gun-ish/rubber-bandy DA trigger in my HK P9S... it's not ideal (now, the SA in the P9S is pure magic--the DA is fckin goofy, though). With the P-10, I think CZ helped democratize shootability. Thanks for your perspective!
Ugh. The CZ100! I had one for a couple of weeks in the 1990s. Just terrible. I didn’t realize, until I’d disassembled it for the first time, that the frame rails were simply molded plastic. They saved money by not including molded-in steel frame rail inserts. There was, however, money to incorporate a steel insert in the mag well, which displayed a dot-matrix pattern of holes that spelled “GUN” in all caps. CZ was literally less concerned with durability than thwarting your efforts to sneak your plastic pistol through an X-Ray machine. Not exactly a high point for CZ. I couldn’t get rid of the thing fast enough. I have been wanting to try a P10 though.
Hey bro. I’m not hating or trolling, but just offering a tip. You shouldn’t be tilting your head into your shoulder when aiming and shooting. Try keeping your head straight. The tilt comes in to play with a rifle, but even then, that much tilt is not needed.
I get a lot of critiques on that. I've tried it... it forces me to bend my arms and wrists, slightly, to align with my eye. Having the gun aligned straight with my arm just feels so much more solid as a shooting platform. Didn't take your comment either, bro. Appreciate you watching!
I had a P10C, got rid of it, sold it bc my buddy needed somethin. This was during covid, but yea bought it and never got to shoot it.. a year later I buy the P10F in .45 then the P10F in 9mm and man I still haven't gotten around to buying my P10C AND they're like 400 clams average price, that's so good! And yes that trigger is what Glock's should've been lol
I'm a huge CZ fan. Own a bunch of them. But the CZ10C was a nightmare. The trigger would bind up frequently. The rear sight was so far off it would shoot 3-4 inches to the left at 20 feet. And it began to disassemble itself after 300 rounds. The pins holding the guts to the frame were walking out. Sent it back to CZ and they fixed the pins and the sights but the trigger was still binding. I'd be very hesitant to buy another striker fired CZ.
That's sucks. Sorry to hear you had issues. As others have said, I very rarely hear anything negative about the P-10. Surely lemons exist with any pistol and any brand. Mine has been wonderful, so far.
You weren’t even a glint in your dad’s eye when Glock introduced the G17 in the late ‘80s when we were rocking wheel guns and their shitty triggers or DA/SA Smiths with even worse triggers. A lot has changed and we’ve come a long way.
@@kmrtnsn I was born in 1980, my man 😁 The glint may have actually come in ‘79. Possibly at a disco. But yes…. A long way we have come. Though I actually really like the DA triggers on Smith 3rd gen autos.
It irritates me how people believe that modern plastic pistols are “better” than earlier steel frame pistols. The reality is that plastic pistols were created simply for producing a cheaper product. And the cheaper it is to produce a product, the more profit the company can make.
Oh it irritates you? Well that's too bad. If the earlier steel frame pistols were so much "better" they'd still be dominating all the markets in all the countries around the world. There are many reasons why they are not and you can't claim it's about point or what the manufacturers make either. It's what consumers, shooters actually buy and use and also own and have access to steel framed pistols but still choose polymer. they
@ It’s price why consumers choose plastic. People buy plastic handguns because they’re cheaper to buy. They’re cheaper to manufacture. Plastic is fine for disposable items, which is great for manufacturers, because everybody wants to buy a new pistol as soon as it comes out. The latest and greatest right? Nope. They just make the pistol look slightly different and give it a new model name. Reality sucks doesn’t it?
@@christophermead9800 Me looking awkwardly at my HK Mark 23 right now. Which just for the sake of argument is the most tested military handgun in history. Look up the SOCOM trials....you might learn something.
@@christophermead9800 You should probably tell the many tier 1 military units that can use anything they want that you know better than them and their plastic striker fired guns are inferior.
@ They were using 1911s, Sig P226s, Beretta 92s etc. until the younger generation came in and chose plastic Glocks and Sigs. Why? Because they didn’t like the extra weight of a durable metal handgun. What does that tell you? The older generations were much tougher stronger men.
Cz is amazing. It’s without one of the best handguns you can get and extremely affordable. Everyone that told me otherwise at the range went and bought one after shooting mine
Fantastic review and such sensible no-nonsense content, clearly knowledgable about the subject and so interesting. Thanks so much.
Thank you so much for the compliment, my friend! Glad you enjoyed it. The magic of the P-10 goes beyond what you can put on paper… did my best to capture it. Happy new year!
I choose Glock pretty much because they are generally the lightest versions of whatever pistol they are. My CZ75b was awesome but so heavy.
The recoil impulse is so much better than any G19 I have ever shot, no comparison. My daily carry, over 2.5k rounds with zero malfunctions. Only things I’ve done to it is double the cost by adding an optic, talon grips and dpm recoil system and light.
Does the DPM actually help much?
I second the question on the DPM. I'd like to be able to lighten the slide spring.
@@keithj9165 Yeah, the recoil impulse is really nice. Gives you some feedback, without being punishing. Talon grips were a must for me too. Thanks!
At this point Glock is behind the times. They were cool in 1980, 2000 and 2020, but there's so many better options in 2024 for that price point.
@@Brett235 Well said. They’re not bad guns… and if you like them, more power to you. But I agree-other options execute the same fundamentals in a better way.
Cz is amazing. It’s without one of the best handguns you can get and extremely affordable. Everyone that told me otherwise at the range went and bought one after shooting mine
@@wyattreeves5608 I believe it. The P-10 kinda redefines the niche it plays in. Thanks, brother!
Pausing at 2:08 seconds was an awesome shot at some of the greats! Awesome video as always! The p10c is sort of a secret in modern utilitarian pistols!!!
Thanks, my man! Really appreciate you watching and all the support. And I agree: the P-10 is phenomenal for its intended role. Hopefully more people will discover it.
@HipsterTactical absolutely Matt!!! You're fine details and expression of what it feels like to own and shoot these guns have kept me watching everyone you bring out. You're video of the p88c is also why I now have a p88!! They don't make guns like they used to!! And the p10c represent great modern simplicity and IKEA type guns!!!
The P10C is my favorite striker fired pistol ever. I’ll never get rid of mine.
@@KGBBooks Yeah, I feel you. I think the Walther P99 is still my all time fave striker gun… but the P10 is up there. Thanks!
The P07 is a damn good time. It’s a brick, but a fun brick
Yeah, I liked the P-07. Definitely every bit as accurate as the P-10. But, with a stockpile of mid-sized DA/SA guns... I dunno. The P-10C seemed more compelling. Thanks!
Nice assessment man, just subbed to you 👍 I had kind of recently picked up a P10c which was notable to me since I only had one other striker type pew. I specifically wanted something like my VP9. Like you, I mostly preferred da/sa or 1911s for the better part of 20 years. I wanted something that was very similar to the VP9 and that might be like how I’d want a Glock to be if they would just finally make a generation that seemed like, well a new generation. Overall, I think I picked a good option out there on the market that compares very well to my VP9, and the price was really reasonable.
Shot a Glock, shot a CZ...now own a P10F, C and S. Bang for the buck can't be beat. I had to adjust the rear sight on 2 of the 3, but that's just part of owning a gun. Also did some polishing on the firing pin/block, trigger group, etc and it got even better! Might look at springs next. I might be a 1911 guy at heart...I gotta tinker and tweak!
Cool, man. Yeah, the trigger is already good… but I know there are solutions to make it better. Either way, it’s a great starting point for a great shooter. Thanks for the comment!
@HipsterTactical I agree. I'd be disappointed if it was perfect out of the box and there was nothing for me to tweak on. 4.5# Glock firing pin springs are in the mail and a DPM recoil kit for the C. We shall see.
HB Industries trigger upgrade is so amazing and cheap you're really missing out not at least checking it out. Getting a metal trigger shoe and the spring upgrade really improves an already awesome trigger.
Great video. Not a CZ owner. Glock, and love the Walther PDP Pro as a polymer framed pistol alternative, due mainly to the trigger. However, much of what you say about the CZ P10 aligns with what I’ve heard from others who know their stuff. 👍🏻
Thank you, sir! Yeah, the Walther PDPs/PPQs/P99s are fantastic. My P99 is probably favorite striker-fired pistol. But... I think the Walthers kinda fill a different niche; they have SAO triggers (or, DA/SA with the P99). Glocks of course work fine... but I really enjoy the P-10's take on the Glock "paradigm." Thanks for the comment!
Are you cross-eye dominant? I cant help but notice your head placement when shooting
@@ugatobekittenme Yes, sir. Just like Jeff Cooper and Jack Weaver.
@@HipsterTactical And nutnfancy!! Cross eye shooting is cool!!!
@@shanegrimmett7 Haha. Yeah it is. I'm bringin' it back like bell bottoms!
@HipsterTactical absolutely!!!! Heck bell bottoms too!!! Why not!!!
@@HipsterTactical cross eyed dominant as well. I didn't realize it was a thing even when I was in Army I remember my first time with the M16A2 I just naturally put it in my left hand and naturally shot the M9 with my right. No one ever noticed that I was doing it and they were just concerned whether I would qualify or be a no-go requiring a re-shoot.
Great thoughts, you clearly know quite something about many guns. As a CZ shareholder, I must say that "we" made progress in adjusting details in a simply clever way - the philosophy really is to get to the top by pure meritocracy, not by marketing which our famous Austrian colleague did rather well. CZ P-10C is still a rather ordinary pistol by looks, not that far from the Glock, and it was mass-purchased by ordinary institutions like the Czech police and army. I think that lots of people may still pay the double and they should try the CZ Shadow 2 Compact instead. With at least the same quality of the trigger and other things as P-10C, it has 2-5% greater linear dimensions, 10% extra weight, but the fit and finish simply is at a higher level than the P-10C. The Shadow 2 pistols have a real character, the extra color symbolizes it.
Hey, thank you for the kind words! The video speaks for itself, of course--but I think "you" did a great job in making an "ordinary" pistol shoot and feel... special. From a business standpoint, I think it speaks to the same customers of your Austrian counterpart, but it offers a tangible point of difference in terms of the shooting and handling; like you said, merit not marketing. I'd love to try a Shadow 2 Compact! Or a full size model. A little expensive for me right now, but someday. Let me know if I can ever assist with product reviews or anything else that pertains to marketing (that's what I do for my "day" job). Thanks again!
Thanks, you should ideally be sent some other guns to try. Too bad I don't have the courage to persuade someone now.
The optimization of the grip, adequate pressure of the trigger, speed of operations, small details on the shape... All these things are somewhat typical for Czech engineering when it works. If you drove Škodas with their simple clever details, you would probably agree it is a similar strategy of optimization which isn't quite revolutionary but isn't tiny, either. Like the Smart Dials controls, umbrellas in doors, icescrapers with magnifying glass, magnets and hooks to secure luggage in the trunk, charging cable on the bottom of the trunk door instead of beneath the luggage, dozens of other details.
The compact Shadow is better with optics. It would be painful otherwise after CZ bought a prominent optics company. The purchase of Sellier and Bellot ammunition was way more expensive but the leaders of CZ obviously concluded that ammunition and not just guns is what the epoch of wars might need.
There is various interesting progress. Among rifles, Bren "1" was subpar, Bren 2 fixed the main bugs. So Bren 3 is out now, with modular construction. The heart around the trigger and what does the work is the same, all the peripheries are completely new, and the whole is made even more robust and unbreakable simply because the fights in Ukraine have shown that it is needed. For videos and to impress friends on one's garden, one may play with a rifle in the mud etc. But on the battlefront, one sees that this controlled resilience is still not enough.
Things have to be made really well given Czechs' hostility to hype and jealousy. However, emotions do exist, the acquisition of Colt was the cutest moment because lots of us were breastfed with Karl May and Westerns and Colt is the top brand there. The romantic love to America here is still partly a relationship to America of the 1830s or so when Czechs started to move to red states to help the solid foundation of rednecks, so different from other groups. It just happens that Lemonade Joe, the most famous Czech parody Western from 1964 or so, has many lines about a Smith and Wesson hanging damn low. Most people believe that the movie talks about Colt, anyway. So the decades of Colt's struggling are unknown here, even to relative gun experts.
A lot of people talk bad about CZ and praise colt in the same breath. Then I realise they don't know CZ owns Colt, so I get to tell them lol. CZ makes some the best, most reliable, firearms on the planet. I have a Dan Wesson revolver, pre, CZ and I've shot Dan Wesson post CZ and CZ made them better. CZ, Colt, and Dan Wesson, are some of the best firearms on the planet IMHO. I've owned my 75 B for over 20 years and there's nothing that can replace it but another CZ!
I own and carry a P10S every day for the last 2 years. It shoots accurate, the out of the box trigger is great and due to how flat it shoots, follow up shots are a breeze. My only gripe with the P10 Series of pistols are, the spiral roll pins holding the front and rear inserts, it's literally the Achilles heel of the P10. It's mind boggling that CZ has not moved over to push pins like S&W and Canik. BTW Glock has been using push pins since day one.
Yeah, a few others have mentioned the walking pins. Haven't experienced that myself... but... roll pins are more of PITA to work with.
Cajun Gunworks kit comes with frame pins to replace the roll pins.
I would argue that there is one good trigger that has been good since the early 90s. The Walter P 99. That trigger is simply amazing by today’s standards and to think it was made in the 90s is pretty crazy.
@@Sig_P229 Yeah, I definitely agree. I touch on the P99 in my written review of the P-10C. And I have a full review on my gen 1 P99 if you’re interested. Thanks so much for watching!
@@HipsterTactical love your reviews. I stopped collecting a year or so ago, but still watch. I have kids now and my money ends up elsewhere lol 🤷🏻♂️
@@Sig_P229 Thanks, man. Appreciate you watching. Sorry if I didn’t recognize your YT handle… I recall you commenting better. But yeah, it ain’t a cheap hobby 😁 Thanks again and happy holidays.
Except the p99 wasn’t around in the early 90s.
@ it was developed by Horest Wesp in the early 90s after he left Glock and Steyr. It was not available until around 96 and 97.
Additionally the trigger and the internals are the same as the PPQ that rivaled the P10c in this video. The only difference was it was developed decades prior.
Cool review. CZ is very good quality. They make awesome reliable guns at a reasonable price. On a side note, really digging the intro beats.
Thank you so much, man! Appreciate the comment in the tracks. I’m kinda gettin formula down, as far as production. And yes… CZs seem nicer than they should be. And they always impress at the range. Thanks again!
I bought a P-10 C a couple of months ago out of curiosity. In spite of my lack of a personal attraction to polymer, striker-fired pistols I find myself really liking this gun.
Being a hammer-fired pistol cat myself, I wonder whether you've had your mits on a Shadow 2 or a Shadow 2 Compact?
I'm kinda in the same boat--I bought a P-07 around the same time, and I ended up liking the P-10 better. I've handled a Shadow 2... never owned one. Though I did just buy a P-01... which is really a nice shooter. The ergos are fantastic and it handles naturally. Trigger is solid. Though I am finding it to be more ammo finicky. More to come... Thanks!
My brand new p10 trigger feels like my g45 with an OP minus connector and 1000+ rounds... I just bought my 2nd p10c🔥
I never warmed up to the P10s. I remember when it first came out, it was touted as THE Glock killer, but look at it now, it's being blown out for $350 vs the $650 it was at launch. I agree with your points in the review, it's impressive what CZ pulled off with it from a technical standpoint. There are so many little things about it that turned me off of it, though... better than good enough, but not by that much.
I think CZ can make a better pistol with what they learned with on the P10. With how cheap the prices have gotten on them, I'dve bet a P10 Gen 2 would have come out at least a couple years ago, but surprisingly that hasn't happened yet.
I love that you are laying down some truth here. I’m not a Glock enthusiast AT ALL, but they’re reliable…Glock makes a decent pistol I must admit. But being one of the only firearms manufacturers that had as big of a buzz feed around them and so many years have gone by with every Glock fanboy and fangirl touting the design like it’s the end all pistol, I can see why people as of 2024 like to hate on them, however they [Glock] aren’t crazy famous with one of the most hard headed and staunchly dedicated fan bases for no reason.
My point, which I believe is your point as well is that they’re nowhere near the quality of the P-10…I’ve never held a more balanced Polymer framed Pistol…or fired a striker design that has a totally crispy and definitive, clean break with small reset. Not crispy like a 1911, or any single action hammer fire gun, but damn good considering the P-10 has displayed zero creep and uber consistent trigger travel, and that is a shocker for me, because most striker fire pistols I’ve fired had what felt like a variable on when the trigger wall would break and the gun would discharge. Not the P-10. Same wall every shot, every time. Lastly, not that really matters where it counts, but the P-10 is also sexier in looks than any Glock I’ve ever laid eyes on. Great review man, I have the same view. It’s a Glock Grinder.
Thanks so much for the compliments, my friend. Yeah, I think we’re on the same page… Glocks are good guns. No doubt. But with the work CZ put into ergonomics, trigger and overall feel, I just feel-objectively-the P-10 is a better product. Glocks have always “won” on paper, in terms size, weight, capacity, reliability and price. But think CZ adds a layer of enhanced shootability into that equation. Thanks again and take care!
AREX redesigned the G19 via CAD. Bubitz (former Glock Engineer) developed the new Steyr M9. S&W claims an excellent polymer 9. CZ has a long tradition... only makes sense that improved iterations would come along.
P07 was probably the most durable and reliable pistol I ever owned. Is the P10C going to be that reliable??
Right-handed but left-eye dominant right? I noticed while you shot the pistol. Same thing here for me :))
I love my P-10C - just wish I waited a bit for the Optic Ready version. I still rock a Red Dot on mine with a plate. I tried Glocks on shooting ranges here, but I just prefer the P-10, maybe I am biased because I am Czech :)))
A competitor in IDPA I shoot with had 130,000+ rounds through his P10C before failure. CZ sent him a new one in exchange for sending it back to them. I have had several and the best I can say is that it’s an acceptable striker pistol. I’m a DA/SA guy for carry and competition. My EDC is HK LEM with an LTT RDO.
I mean, 130,000 sounds like you’re getting your money’s worth. And it’s cool CZ stood by their product. Thanks for the insight. I’m more of a DA/SA guy, too. Mainly Sigs. Thanks again!
Heck, didn't the P10 place a very respectable 2nd in MAC's torture test? Second only to the Slovenian Rex Zero?
I’m not a trigger snob. My stock G48 trigger was horrid. It now has an Apex.
The trigger on my G17 is... useable. Not as good as the P-10 though.
This 'review' or thoughts on the P-10C is easily the most accurate and realistic to what its like to own a P10C. I've owned Sig, Canik, Glock and went to a local gun show and was able to handle dozens of 9mm options. At its price point of $550 and bellow, its easily the best option out there. If i go up in price, then the more refined H&K, Sigs, Walther's and Gucci-Glocks start to make it apparent why those cost 25-100% more. I see this firearm as a the perfect, utilitarian tool. Its like a Casio G-shock if you were to compare it to watches. Its giving you a lot for your money, but its not trying to be anything more than what its intended to be.
I really appreciate his perspective on the trigger. I too feel that the trigger could be made better. But here is the thing, It's already better than Sig and Glock, so why should it be any better? its because the platform / foundation is SOO good that it can handle it. It's like driving a base model car like a BMW 320i and noticing a bit that the balance and proportions are excellent. You start thinking, 'wouldn't it be great to tune it?' Next things you know you've got a M3. It is all because the foundation to start with was able to reveal the opportunity for more. Nobody would ever think that for a Prius because it was compromised from the beginning.
That to me is why the Gucci Glocks dont make sense. Yes, they feel and shoot great, However, you are having to fix all the problems/flaws to just end up paying 2x the price.
Good video thanks!
Thank you, sir! Appreciate you watching.
Glock is the greatest demonstration of the power of advertising, nostalgia, and aftermarket support and how those things can keep an antique relevant. Glock hasn't innovated since its creation nearly 40 years ago and has coasted off aftermarket and past advertisements.
Yet fanatics will act like you are crazy for not sharing their obsession with mediocre pistols, lol.
Advertising compared to who?
@@johnhatchel9681 ikr
@SAR0311 no need for comparison. It's evident.
I agree. Glock will be the next FUDD gun. Just like the old timers today hanging on the 1911 not recognizing time has moved on.
Finally, a guntuber that thinks the same way I do.
Right on, brother! Thanks for watching.
My 10F is fantastic. The 10C is just a tad shorter.
I'm thinking updated p10 Nocturne are coming. Would want the trigger to be a little more sure when smooshing through the wall. The p09c Nocturne traction is amazing that'show should be done Grizzly hair traction is good too....did they keep single trigger bar on that or internal upades? I had Beretta vid today check it oht
Oh really? They're giving the P-10 the "Nocturne" treatment, too? Cool. I'm sure if they changed the trigger bar on the P-09 Nocturne series. I'll have to look into that. I'll check your Beretta vid, too! Thanks, man!
I’m guessing from watching you shoot you are cross eye dominant
Yessir.
Cz guns are awesome love the p07 the p97 b the cz 75 compact and the p10c they shoot great
Thanks for the review. I have them in compact and S. Good pistols for the price point.
I had CZ P10S previously and now I own G19 MOS as they are close in size. P10s shoots great and the trigger is definitely better than stock Glock trigger, but new Glock performance trigger is superior to CZs trigger. And since Glock is easier to mantain and replace parts, has cheaper mags and where I live its almost the same price P10 kinda lost point for me.
I like the p10c but i cant say it’s *better* than a glock 19. If you can shoot a p10c but not a glock, then you can’t shoot. Personally the increase in size makes carrying the p10c more like a g17, and the texture seems too sharp for iwb
At this point, I can shoot just about anything... as long as it has proper rifling and a sub-20lb trigger. But there's no reason not to choose what feels more natural and intuitive. And I suspect most people will find the P-10 more natural than a Glock. Though that's certainly not a given.
If you can shoot a P10C, why would you need to shoot a G19? Seems like a strawman. I simply refused to pay $200 or for a gen 5 Glock for a stick of butter design and a grip angle I hate and the Dagger would need a trigger after purchase. CZ was a one and done for sub $400.
@ Holy fanboy, i bought a police trade in 17 with night sights for 100 dollars less than a p10. Everyone needs to be able to shoot a glock well, because they’re by far the most common platform around. The p10 isn’t more reliable, accurate, or shootable than a glock. I can certainly understand preferring the p10, its grip is more natural to me and i prefer the aesthetics and oem metal sights. I also love shooting them both equally, but I prefer the glock simply to be ubiquitous and enjoy the increased aftermarket and availability of parts. I also still believe the 19 is a better carry gun than a p10c, it’s noticeably smaller and has a more conducive grip texture.
@@josephlegacy929 Enjoy your G17. I bought mine for a helluva price too. I like it. It's a good gun. But I think the P-10 is better--not because it's more reliable, but because it's designed better in terms of its human interface. And I absolutely thing the P-10 platform is more shootable than a Glock--though that's not to say Glocks are poor shooters.
@@HipsterTactical I think if that was the case p10s would dominate the competition market, but they don’t. If you *can’t* get used to the glock grip angle you either haven’t shot one enough or you just have a hate boner for glock.
Im not a glock fanboy, im just trying to be objective here. My favorite handgun is still the 1911 which is so far removed from glock that I should have every reason to hate them. When I started shooting they 1911s pointed more naturally for me, but after even just a small amount of time and training the difference was gone. I also appreciate the exaggerated angle from a recoil control perspective. Yes the p10 has a more natural grip for most people, but that doesn’t mean the p10 magically shoots better than glocks.
Your right on all accounts. CZ designs and manufactures its guns (pistol & rifles) exquisitely. There's something in their water fountain, the CZ people produce QUALITY prroducts..
My CZs: 52, 457 Lux, PO-9 Full Size SR OR, P10-F. I also own HKs, Walthers and Glocks. All full size except a VP9 SK.
CZs all have solid, tight, accurate, construction. No mods needed.
Couldn’t agree more, my man. Now I’ve got the P-01. I’ve had a PCR as well, but I think I’ll hang onto this one. Thanks for the comment!
So many striker-fired triggers let go somewhere along their twenty miles of squishy road, which is strange, considering the reality that many rifles have excellent striker-fired mechanisms. But the original customers for Glock were more worried about cops who can't avoid negligent discharges than about accuracy.
Yeah, I think Glock was a means to an end. But CZ makes that end more cohesive, more intuitive and delightfully crisp. Thanks for the comment, my man!
How much you want to sell that g17 gen2 for?
I saved so much money on my Glock. I was able to put a match trigger in it.😊 now what😊
Haha. Mind blown. Honestly, I think P-10s are cheaper than Glocks, these days. And have better triggers. So... only one way that math makes sense :)
@@HipsterTacticalI just got one at fin feather and fur a few months back for 330 I believe.
Curious on your thoughts compared to the HK vp9
I’d like to try one. I’ve got a few others to tackle first, review wise. But I’ll grab one someday I’m sure. They do have really nice triggers, from dry-fire experience. Thanks!
I've had a lot of CZ's, several were poly guns. The issues I had were with the initial early magazine release and a broken, mis-tempered firing pin. My only design complaint was the shape of the magwell on the C version. I sold my C and kept the P10F, which I love.
I need to try an F, at some point. I can only imagine adding size, weight, barrel length and sight radius to an already outstanding setup. Thanks!
@HipsterTactical It really does make a fantastic shooter. The really cool thing is you can run the compact slide, threaded barrel, and a comp and have an absolute flat shooting gun all within the same dimensions as the reg F slide. I'm not sure why we don't see this combo on a regular basis.
Ive had both glock and cz p10 pistols and i honestly just prefer the simplicity of my glock. Theres a reason the glovk still has a huge market to this day and no matter how much people crap on glock it will never go away. Enjoy your new fancy pistols comig out every few months and let the rest of us enjoy our glocks
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Hipsters for Cz ,Canik For Mechanics 😂.
Does anyone know where to get a stock recoil spring and what lb it is ?
I bet you can find one on eBay. Or MidwayUSA.
@@HipsterTactical I just ended up getting the Cajun stainless guide rod and ismi spring. The stock rate on the 10c is 20lb. Stock rate on the 10F is 16lb.
i love mine.
Me too! Thanks!
So I don’t own a p10c I went with the s model. I actually traded the last glock I owned towards it. So I’m not a glock hater I have owned 3 of them I want to like them but I just can’t. They don’t feel good in the hand blah blah all the reasons people don’t like them. I really think you get so much more for the money with the cz 50 to 75 bucks cheaper locally anyways. The finish is very good I have a p07 same thing they don’t scuff easy. Your getting metal sights with most would agree a better sight picture and there night sights your not paying extra for any of this like glock metal mag release maybe not a deal breaker but if you want that for glock your are paying extra. And this is just to me I’m not an expert but I have worked in a few machine shops in my life the cz feels better made the rails are beefy the chamber is fully supported is that needed for a 9mm probably not but it just kinda shows that it’s over built I believe it can take every bit of abuse cz claims to have put it through. The barrel cold hammer forged in house I believe. Like said in this video and I would have to agree with just about everything said in this review it’s a very good one and I’ll be subbing to the channel glocks are great guns cz just did this better.
DA/SA triggers suck. Nothing is as sweet as a 1911 trigger. Second would be a Colt or Smith revolver in single action. That said, if I don't know where I'll end up I'd choose to pack a Glock. Why? because they all work the same, and they all work (unless you start tinkering with them). More guns, more rounds, more situations than CZ. Proven track record. Still pretty much the same gun that was introduced, what, 40+ years ago. Can't say the same for CZ's striker fired guns.
As to striker fired pistol triggers, I'll take my Canik SFX Rival. Its as close to my 1911's as I've found.
I have loved my P10C since I first purchased it back in late 2018. Also I had the privilege of speaking with some Czech soldiers I ran into when I was a contractor in Afghanistan in 2017. They were carrying Glock 17s but told me they were switching to the P10 series. If its good enough for them to carry in Afghanistan it is definitely good enough for me. Its is a poly-striker wonder and for the price I cannot see why a lot more people don't have one in their collection.
Well said, my friend. Thank you for your service and thank you for sharing that insight. I have read that that the Czechs were switching to the P-10s. That's a solid endorsement, I think. As good as the P-10C shoots... I can only imagine how well the F shoots. Thanks for watching!
If you like DA SA you need to get a P07. I LOVE mine. Grew up learning on DASA.
Love my two 10C's too. One OR and one regular irons. The 10C is what got me into CZ.
I own both a 10C and a Gen5 G19. The P10C is a better value (and the Glock sights are an abomination) but for me, I prefer the G19. The trigger on the gen 5 doesn't bother me at all. I actually prefer the ergos on the Glock. They're both very reliable guns and I don't think you can go wrong either way.
That's totally fair. I pulled trigger on a Gen 5--not bad. I think Glock has very "specific" ergonomics--the angle, the hump. It can definitely work. But for me, the P-10's ergos are kind of an "instant get."
i don't like the feel of the CZ, any more than I liked the feel of the glock, which is not at all.
Haha. Fair enough.
I'm not used to seeing you review striker fired pistol, usually metal hammer fired guns. But P10 is probably 1 of the best striker fired pistols on the market.
Yessir. Totally agree. Thanks for watching!
I really liked the style and quality of your review. The one caveat was your B-roll…why do you let the muzzle hang like that? It looks…awkward.
Hmm... not sure what you mean by "hang." But thanks for the compliment!
I dig the p10 series for sure buuut….aside from a marginal advantage from the trigger, Gen 5 Glocks get the job done & I have invested too much time to really change - and a minus connector/polish fixes that heavy feel without sacrificing reliability, and my groupings are identical to the p10c. The only other polymer striker I have is the M&P. For a 1st time shooter though, I definitely encourage people to rent a p10/M&P/PDP/FN 509/Canik or even the new Echelon along with a Glock before deciding which to get. Can’t really go wrong with any of these brands as far as maintenance and options for the average shooter.
Canik's trigger always surpasses "good enough. Stock Canik triggers are better than most aftermarket triggers for other pistols.
Some of Gaston’s money is in semen too. That’s not a joke.
Haha. I've heard that. Who says there's no money... "horse play" :)
As a Glock guy, I wish they would take a hint from CZ on this one. The P10C is a great pistol at a great price.
I think a lot of manufacturers could take some cues from CZ on the P-10. They did a hell of a job on this gun... honestly for any price, let alone what they're asking. Thanks!
basically a Glock clone comes apart just like a Glock I have a P10C it’s a ok gun
cracked frames, firing pin, trigger, dead trigger. pass
I feel like all those things apply to all guns.... sometimes.
I have at least one out almost every top well and lesser known pistol manufacturers. I have multiple handguns in every genre of handguns from percussion cap antique s to 2024 releases, wood, steel, polymer, wheels hammers and strikers. Outside of heavy dao pocket revolvers and the 12lbs+ New York triggers, no "bad" 20th/21st century trigger has ever hindered my shooting ability. Sure a 2lbs, glass rod, 0 take up, gamer 1911 trigger is nice, but thats just a nice luxury, not even close to a need and much less a true requirement, especially in a real life high stress emergency situation. Here it looks like a lot of commenters have only shot a couple of different brands or types of hand guns..ever. It's not the trigger, it's the shooter.
I see any gun/trigger that helps more people shoot more accurately more often as... good. And while I can put rounds through the same hole with my staple-gun-ish/rubber-bandy DA trigger in my HK P9S... it's not ideal (now, the SA in the P9S is pure magic--the DA is fckin goofy, though). With the P-10, I think CZ helped democratize shootability. Thanks for your perspective!
Ugh. The CZ100!
I had one for a couple of weeks in the 1990s. Just terrible. I didn’t realize, until I’d disassembled it for the first time, that the frame rails were simply molded plastic. They saved money by not including molded-in steel frame rail inserts. There was, however, money to incorporate a steel insert in the mag well, which displayed a dot-matrix pattern of holes that spelled “GUN” in all caps.
CZ was literally less concerned with durability than thwarting your efforts to sneak your plastic pistol through an X-Ray machine.
Not exactly a high point for CZ. I couldn’t get rid of the thing fast enough. I have been wanting to try a P10 though.
Hey bro. I’m not hating or trolling, but just offering a tip. You shouldn’t be tilting your head into your shoulder when aiming and shooting. Try keeping your head straight. The tilt comes in to play with a rifle, but even then, that much tilt is not needed.
I get a lot of critiques on that. I've tried it... it forces me to bend my arms and wrists, slightly, to align with my eye. Having the gun aligned straight with my arm just feels so much more solid as a shooting platform. Didn't take your comment either, bro. Appreciate you watching!
Cross eye dominant
Yup!
I had a P10C, got rid of it, sold it bc my buddy needed somethin. This was during covid, but yea bought it and never got to shoot it.. a year later I buy the P10F in .45 then the P10F in 9mm and man I still haven't gotten around to buying my P10C AND they're like 400 clams average price, that's so good! And yes that trigger is what Glock's should've been lol
Well said, sir! I'd love to have a P-10F in .45. Thanks for the comment!
I'm a huge CZ fan. Own a bunch of them. But the CZ10C was a nightmare. The trigger would bind up frequently. The rear sight was so far off it would shoot 3-4 inches to the left at 20 feet. And it began to disassemble itself after 300 rounds. The pins holding the guts to the frame were walking out. Sent it back to CZ and they fixed the pins and the sights but the trigger was still binding. I'd be very hesitant to buy another striker fired CZ.
That’s crazy your roll pins were backing out ?? Mine are next to impossible to get out
Disagree highly
You are the only person I’ve ever heard say something bad about this handgun.
That's sucks. Sorry to hear you had issues. As others have said, I very rarely hear anything negative about the P-10. Surely lemons exist with any pistol and any brand. Mine has been wonderful, so far.
I've never had an issue with my P-10. Maybe you got an outlier
Cz p10 vs canik mete sf
Tisas PX-9 gen3 is right there with Canik :)
Don’t take your finger off the trigger in between every shot
right handed but aims with left eye
Yessir
It's called cross-dominant
Many of us are right hand left eyed dominant. We are individuals.
@ Power to the people, my man.
You weren’t even a glint in your dad’s eye when Glock introduced the G17 in the late ‘80s when we were rocking wheel guns and their shitty triggers or DA/SA Smiths with even worse triggers. A lot has changed and we’ve come a long way.
@@kmrtnsn I was born in 1980, my man 😁 The glint may have actually come in ‘79. Possibly at a disco. But yes…. A long way we have come. Though I actually really like the DA triggers on Smith 3rd gen autos.
Quit turkey necking while you shoot
@@mtn-endeavors67 no
Firing pin block issues.
I mentioned it in the video.
I’m not a fan of the P10C. It’s bigger and heavier than a G19, and the sights are objectively more stupid.
I dunno. I like the sights.
they might be subjectively stupid to you, but not to people with functioning brains
It irritates me how people believe that modern plastic pistols are “better” than earlier steel frame pistols. The reality is that plastic pistols were created simply for producing a cheaper product. And the cheaper it is to produce a product, the more profit the company can make.
Oh it irritates you? Well that's too bad. If the earlier steel frame pistols were so much "better" they'd still be dominating all the markets in all the countries around the world. There are many reasons why they are not and you can't claim it's about point or what the manufacturers make either. It's what consumers, shooters actually buy and use and also own and have access to steel framed pistols but still choose polymer.
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@ It’s price why consumers choose plastic. People buy plastic handguns because they’re cheaper to buy. They’re cheaper to manufacture. Plastic is fine for disposable items, which is great for manufacturers, because everybody wants to buy a new pistol as soon as it comes out. The latest and greatest right? Nope. They just make the pistol look slightly different and give it a new model name. Reality sucks doesn’t it?
@@christophermead9800 Me looking awkwardly at my HK Mark 23 right now. Which just for the sake of argument is the most tested military handgun in history. Look up the SOCOM trials....you might learn something.
@@christophermead9800 You should probably tell the many tier 1 military units that can use anything they want that you know better than them and their plastic striker fired guns are inferior.
@ They were using 1911s, Sig P226s, Beretta 92s etc. until the younger generation came in and chose plastic Glocks and Sigs. Why? Because they didn’t like the extra weight of a durable metal handgun. What does that tell you? The older generations were much tougher stronger men.
Cz is amazing. It’s without one of the best handguns you can get and extremely affordable. Everyone that told me otherwise at the range went and bought one after shooting mine