Don, you are not getting old. Everyone deserves to enjoy the venue. I’d have gone to the venue manager or the cruise director every single day until someone listened.
Passengers need to alert crew members and request that a situation like this be dealt with the first time it happens. No one should be allowed to disrupt a performance like this. No Don, you are not getting old. What's old is parents not teaching their children how to behave and being allowed to get away with it.
I don’t blame this little girl. She doesn’t know any better. It’s her parents. As parents we need to teach our kids to be considerate of others. It’s not just you. I give a lot of parents nasty looks these days for their lack of parenting
I guess the parents' parents did not teach them to be considerate of others and this is part of the problem these days. There are just many clueless or "don't give a damn about others" adults. I'm not saying the little girl was not cute for the first time this happened but night after night disrupting 70+ people plus the crew? I say the entertainment coordinator should have handled this with the parents. I'm sorry Don but I did chuckle because this reminds me of a cruise I went on where drunken college students took over the karaoke a few nights in a row. I felt just like you did so it brought back memories!
Second grammar alert! Its vs It's - "It's Don"; The difference between "your" and "you're" is that "your" is a possessive adjective that shows ownership, while "you're" is a contraction of "you are": Your: A possessive adjective that indicates ownership. For example, "Your book is on the shelf" means the book belongs to the person being addressed. You're: A contraction of the words "you" and "are". For example, "You're the best person for the job" means "you are" the best person for the job. To determine whether to use "your" or "you're", you can try substituting "you are" for the word in question. If the sentence still makes sense, then "you're" is correct. Here are some more examples of "your" and "you're" in a sentence: "Washing the dishes is your responsibility". "You're doing a great job washing the dishes". "Is this your dog?". "Drinking water is good for your health". "This is all your fault!". "What is your name?".
Years ago my wife and i went out to eat and this kid was running around bumping into tables and his parents did nothing about it. The next time he ran by our table I tripped him and that ended his little rampage. He wasn't hurt and know one felt sorry for him.
Sounds like you got that warm, fuzzy feeling from assaulting a child. At the present state of the world, you are fortunate that some Karen didn’t witness you tripping a child and then seeking to have you charged with battery or child abuse.
We had this kid running all over the restaurant and he came to our table and started putting his hand into our drinks and water while looking us directly in the eye, I managed to dump a whole glass of water on his chest soaking him. He ran back to his table screaming that man poured water on me, his Dad gave me dirty looks, I just ignored them, they left soon after, felt great and so did the other diners.
Same, Orlando Ripleys believe it or not museum, kid doing full sprints in and out. I’m trying to watch the documentary in the dark room. “Sweep the leg Johnny”, didn’t see him again running. It takes a village to raise a child again, many self centered parents do nothing. Be nice until it’s time to not be nice. Ask the staff first, then tell the parents, then discipline with your voice. If they say “you can’t talk to my kid like that”, my reply is I tried to talk to you., but your kid is impacting all the other people here.
I have ZERO compunction telling such children to STOP RUNNING, it's not SAFE. And 99% of the time the parents hustle to grab them. Maybe once in a long while someone will say "Don't correct my child!" and I just say "Someone needs to, you aren't." and they get all huffy. But they go away WITH CHILD. Which is all I really want.
It probably is super adorable for a few minutes or even through one song but then it becomes not so cute when the actors or whatever try to include the audience and they can't because of the little girl getting in their way and they don't want to trip over her or step on her and cause her injury at that point the parents need to either get their kid under control or staff needs to kick them out! I know I would be beyond pissed as an audience member who wanted to either get up and dance or enjoy them coming out and playing the violin right near me. I love the violin it's a beautiful instrument and also would enjoy the entertainment like dancers or musicians or magicians or what have you come out and include the audience.
Everyone who wanted to dance should have got up and danced. The performers should have performed. At some point, there wouldn't have been enough room for the girl to do her antics. If the girl was running into people, the crew should have told the parents that the girl needs to be aware of others or they will be asked to leave.
You are exactly right Don. It all boils down to how self centered (some) people are now. They couldn't care less how it affects others. The people trying to enjoy the real show should have flooded customer service with complaints.
You're not wrong at all. A few minutes of it.....okay, cute.....but just a few minutes. Since this was happening repeatedly, perhaps they should have been talked to prior to the show and told to keep her under control. Since someone HAD spoken to them (once or more?), I would say to ask them to leave unless they can control the kid.
The first night I would go and dance with her and try to redirect her and explain why she shouldn't be doing it. The second night, I would be saying something to the parents and the captain. It's a safety problem and prevents the performers from doing their jobs. And worse than that, it interferes with all the other paying passengers experience.
You’re completely correct. This child needs to respect others spaces. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one. The crew needs to tell her parents to keep her in line or not go there.
I think that, after several nights of the little girl, several couples should’ve gotten together and all gone out on the dance floor and started dancing, blocking her way from some of her antics, and see what the parents‘s response would’ve been. If enough couples had gone out there covering the floor, she wouldn’t have been able to keep doing that. Maybe her parents would’ve finally gotten the message?
Thank you for addressing this problem. We see it often on the ships when we sail. We enjoy dancing but are afraid of tripping over a child when they take up the entire floor. We see this often on Royal Caribbean ships that have a Centrum. Many of the events and band performances are held there daily. If there are many children on the cruise, they tend to gravitate to the dance floor there. This included the flag ceremony as well as the band performances. The dance floors on most ships are tiny as it is. If space is taken up by children running around and doing cartwheels, there is no room for anyone else.
Parents these days don't discipline their children at the best of times. In my day ,my children would behave or I would take them back to the cabin and put them in a time out. God forbid they should do something like that.
I’m with you, Don!! It’s not whinny nor grumpy!! We deserve good service and people need to be respectful of others!! They let kids run around and don’t watch kids!! The next generation is going to be scary with no discipline! There is a kids club and use it!! Not fair to others - crying kids in shows - when you have kids you can’t go to all places- get them in kids club, go to your cabin and watch a movie or stay home parents!!! No Don- if that kid got hurt, they would sue the cruise line!! I had kids and didn’t go or found them a place to go! Kids don’t belong in these places!! Thanks
As a parent it’s my responsibility to make sure that MY child is not out of my control at any time, and not annoying others in any way. Some parents don’t realize that other people don’t want to deal with their kids.
We too also feel like the grumpy old couple on a cruise ship lol for the very same reason. And it’s about the parenting. The disco courteousness is what is upsetting to us the lack of concern for others. They’re just happy to have their kid busy so they can enjoy their vacation
AGAIN, I’ve said this about a million times, kids under 18 DON’T belong on a cruise. If something ever happened to that little girl while she was running around, like tripping and putting her head through a speaker, the parents would have been the first to sue the cruise line. And I bet the parents would win.
Agree 100%! It’s not okay!! This is why I don’t want to take the chance on a cruise! That’s a valid reason to find a different kind of vacation for me.
We ran into something like that. It was late at night in the Piazza, a band was playing, people were trying to dance, and one child was not only running around, he was also lying down on the dance floor. His parents didn't seem to care. I wondered who would scream the loudest if he had been stepped on, or if he had tripped someone up. We love to see a parent dance with their child, but not a child being allowed to do anything they want.
Everyone could have gotten up to dance and blocked the needy child from continuing her performance. Not enough people out there with passive aggressive Type A personalities, I say. Inadvertently trip her. Don't give her the space to act up. 😇
I guess the parents didn't think of bringing her back to the cabin. Or any other place on the cruise. It's a cruise. It's not their living room at home.
I get both sides of it. I have an ADHD special needs son. It was had to keep hiking contained. Actually, let me say exhausting, but everytime we were in a public place, we expected him to behave appropriately. If he wouldn't, he learned to expect that we were leaving and we truly left. Ar times, it was so exhausting that I'd me tempted to let him entertain himself, but I never did. Sounds like someone needs to direct them to the Kid's Club if there is one on MSC.
I’m a ballroom dancer and I would have been upset that I would not have been able to dance because of this situation. I would report it to guest services.
If the parents know it’s difficult to keep the one child sitting, ( could be an artistic child), then choose another area to take the kids . The cruise ship have children areas and from what I understand, they are really good at catering to children of all ages, as well as, those with special needs, including providing a special color bracelet, pin, etc., so crew members, and others know that this child may need special assistant. The music was probably a way the parents kept the little girl engaged, but it shouldn’t be at the expense of the other cruise guess! Thanks for sharing
The ship management is to blame as the child’s behaviour compromised health & safety regulations. These days this self-indulgent nonsense is too common.
The crew never set a clear expectation, you can't even set a clear expectation. You admit yourself that when they were told to keep their child away from the speaker they did. This child will be the next generation of Stef or Emma Cruises because she spent "every night dancing" and having fun.
Mom of 5, grandma of 10 soon to be 12, I used to work at a preschool , I love kids. But I no longer want to go cruising on lines that cater to families because of the parents not controlling their kids.
I'm 100% with you because one set of parents refuse to parent. They're probably gleefully happy because she's entertaining the audience too vs. the performers and audience wanting to do what they wanted to. Formally complain to the ED/CD and when they show up they can kindly be told to leave and/or control their child as there have been numerous complaints. I hope that comments are made every 20 minutes when a new act starts to keep the floor clear or encourage adults to dance. I'd be bold and shame the parents fir not caring that 99.9999999% of the audience every night hasn't enjoyed thd show because of your child's constant interruption and actions
The crew was actually allowing that child to place herself in danger of having someone fall over her. They also have a duty of care for their performers and other passengers, and the child's parents should have been told to control her or leave. The child and her family should have been banned the second time it happened.
My wife is from the Midwest USA. When she first came to the east coast she couldn't figure out how to navigate the indifference to other people and general rudeness. It was making her quite frustrated. The advice i gave her has served her well: elbows out. Don't duck and dive around rude people: stiffen the shoulders, hands in pockets, elbows slightly bent, and stay on your parh. It works for walking down the street, standing in line, and bratty kids with rude parents. She cartwheels into a couple hipchecks and that will be the end of that. If a child crashes into an adult, the adult only moves if they want to.
I would have had words with the parents about it. And if necessary, the crew should ban that family from going to that area for the rest of the cruise. That type of behaviour is inexcusable.
My son was like that. He would always want to center and it took quite some time to teach him that it was NOT proper! This is when I was 30, my son was 4, and you are correct it is NOT right for a child to be let loose like that. It took about 2 months for him to finally get the idea that it was not right.
Nope! My son wouldn't even think about it. He knows how respectful we are of other people, even if they're not reciprocating! It's not the kids' fault, 100% of the blame goes on her ignorant parents!
Be thankful you are not on a Disney cruise. On a Disney cruise at Hopkins, quite a lot more. So when you go on vacation and you go to a theme park or you go to a cruise ship it’s like there are people around lifeguards to babysit and watch my kids and I get to check out. And it affects vacation everyone else luckily on the Disney ship there are exclusive adult only areas where you can go and take a break but like you said there are areas where there are shows going on and you can dance out front and they want to come down so no, should you be upset not at the child but yes, you should be upset at the parents. They’re not parenting. Sadly, if this one on for hours, the proper thing is 1 or both parents have to take the child and leave, but then that would affect their vacation and they’d rather affect others vacation than their vacation. lol . As Dr. Laura says being a parent is a full-time job and you have it until you’re 18 once you’re 18 then you can go on vacation and have a proper vacation or do whatever you want to do until then. It’s a full-time job lol. I do have to add that 90% if not 95% of the parents out there doing an excellent job from what I view and I see the situation and how they handle it and I’m like I would never be able to do it as good as they do but you do get the exceptions or maybe they’ve had a bad day a bad week a bad year at work and they’re just at wits end. And I do understand that that’s why I don’t make a comment. I guess to their face but on boards like this thank you for your good work.
I love kids and I'm glad the girl was having fun but she has to learn boundaries. Especially when she's being a safety hazard to herself and the performers. I wish security would have enforced that. Have fun but safe.
This reminds me of the late-night-in-the-jacuuzi session we tried to have as adults until it was filled up with a bunch of kids. OK - it isn't a big pool. No - we don't splash. No - we don't snorkel. ARGH.
The parents are at fault -as are the crew who allowed the parents to do this night after night. I hope you wrote about this in your end-of-cruise survey. I totally understand why some crew members fear to intercede, but this is a case for an officer or security. The child was disrupting the ship's scheduled entertainment. Once? Maybe... But the second time it happened the parents should have been pulled aside by security. This kind of inconsiderate behavior will continue until the rest of us stand up for our rights as fellow passengers. We paid for our tickets, too!
I bet this child has tons of energy all the time. And the parents have figured out that if she dances for three hours and has fun, then they don't have to deal with her energy for the night and also she probably goes to bed easier. Yes, someone should have said something to the parents. They can go out and supervise her ON THE FLOOR, not from a chair. Give her 15 minutes then make her come back and sit. I bet she couldn't sit for hours, hence why she danced for hours. I feel sorry for the kid actually. So much energy and no one to direct it so she was in the way.
I have been on a couple of cruises this year where a lot of people were inconsiderate. Adults and children. It also didn't matter what cruise line you were on. I have two children (now adults) and never would have allowed them to continually do that. We all might have let them at one time for a few minutes, but then you need to know when to reign them back in. Also it always amazes me how late some of these children are up on the cruises. I'm at that age where these children running wild could trip us and we would get hurt and the parents would just walk away.
I do not know why the algorithm gave me this video, and I also do not know why it fills my heart with joy to listen to your complaining about a child being a nuisance. I am also in my '50s and I laugh about how I'm turning into a grumpy old man, but damn it you're right! Lol. Great video ❤
That's why I don't think little kids belong on cruise ships. BUT since they are, maybe ships that cater to them should be providing a sitter service. That child sounds like she has a LOT of energy and needs to get tired out before bed.
I agree, the crew should have told the parents she was interrupting the show and other guests.
Exactly why didn't they is the question, and then tell the family to leave!
Don, you are not getting old. Everyone deserves to enjoy the venue. I’d have gone to the venue manager or the cruise director every single day until someone listened.
I am a mom..... and you are 100% correct.
Its not a gym
Respect of others
Parents get your kids in check or send them to daycare
Nope, you are 100 percent correct. My kids would have never thought it was even an option for them to go out on the dance floor alone!
Duct tape!!!!
The family should be removed from the venue if they refuse to control the kid. Be a parent!!!
Duct tape! I like the way you think!😂😂
Passengers need to alert crew members and request that a situation like this be dealt with the first time it happens. No one should be allowed to disrupt a performance like this. No Don, you are not getting old. What's old is parents not teaching their children how to behave and being allowed to get away with it.
People do not parent now. They just want to be their kid's friend.
Point is Don. If you do say something, then you become the bad guy. God bless the cranky old men , for they will not be kept silent.😂
I don’t blame this little girl. She doesn’t know any better. It’s her parents. As parents we need to teach our kids to be considerate of others. It’s not just you. I give a lot of parents nasty looks these days for their lack of parenting
I guess the parents' parents did not teach them to be considerate of others and this is part of the problem these days. There are just many clueless or "don't give a damn about others" adults. I'm not saying the little girl was not cute for the first time this happened but night after night disrupting 70+ people plus the crew? I say the entertainment coordinator should have handled this with the parents. I'm sorry Don but I did chuckle because this reminds me of a cruise I went on where drunken college students took over the karaoke a few nights in a row. I felt just like you did so it brought back memories!
Don never blamed the girl.
Why I stopped cruising with lines that are basically floating daycares.
The manager of the venue should step in-
I'm totally with you, Don. People need to understand that the public venues on the ship aren't their private play area.
This falls in the parents AND cruise line staff for not handling this
Don, your t-shirt! Grammar alert! Your vs you’re - “ I hope YOU’RE having a great time”.
Second grammar alert! Its vs It's - "It's Don";
The difference between "your" and "you're" is that "your" is a possessive adjective that shows ownership, while "you're" is a contraction of "you are":
Your: A possessive adjective that indicates ownership. For example, "Your book is on the shelf" means the book belongs to the person being addressed.
You're: A contraction of the words "you" and "are". For example, "You're the best person for the job" means "you are" the best person for the job.
To determine whether to use "your" or "you're", you can try substituting "you are" for the word in question. If the sentence still makes sense, then "you're" is correct.
Here are some more examples of "your" and "you're" in a sentence:
"Washing the dishes is your responsibility".
"You're doing a great job washing the dishes".
"Is this your dog?".
"Drinking water is good for your health".
"This is all your fault!".
"What is your name?".
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you are correct to say what you said. the manager should have said something to the parents politely but something should have said.
The cruise line needs to control and take over that situation!!!
Years ago my wife and i went out to eat and this kid was running around bumping into tables and his parents did nothing about it. The next time he ran by our table I tripped him and that ended his little rampage. He wasn't hurt and know one felt sorry for him.
Sounds like you got that warm, fuzzy feeling from assaulting a child. At the present state of the world, you are fortunate that some Karen didn’t witness you tripping a child and then seeking to have you charged with battery or child abuse.
We had this kid running all over the restaurant and he came to our table and started putting his hand into our drinks and water while looking us directly in the eye, I managed to dump a whole glass of water on his chest soaking him. He ran back to his table screaming that man poured water on me, his Dad gave me dirty looks, I just ignored them, they left soon after, felt great and so did the other diners.
@@Springer_maniac great job! I hate it when parents can't control their children.
Same, Orlando Ripleys believe it or not museum, kid doing full sprints in and out. I’m trying to watch the documentary in the dark room.
“Sweep the leg Johnny”, didn’t see him again running. It takes a village to raise a child again, many self centered parents do nothing.
Be nice until it’s time to not be nice. Ask the staff first, then tell the parents, then discipline with your voice. If they say “you can’t talk to my kid like that”, my reply is I tried to talk to you., but your kid is impacting all the other people here.
I have ZERO compunction telling such children to STOP RUNNING, it's not SAFE. And 99% of the time the parents hustle to grab them. Maybe once in a long while someone will say "Don't correct my child!" and I just say "Someone needs to, you aren't." and they get all huffy. But they go away WITH CHILD. Which is all I really want.
The parents are completely at fault.
They might think its super cute because its their kid but everyone else thinks its super annoying.
It probably is super adorable for a few minutes or even through one song but then it becomes not so cute when the actors or whatever try to include the audience and they can't because of the little girl getting in their way and they don't want to trip over her or step on her and cause her injury at that point the parents need to either get their kid under control or staff needs to kick them out! I know I would be beyond pissed as an audience member who wanted to either get up and dance or enjoy them coming out and playing the violin right near me. I love the violin it's a beautiful instrument and also would enjoy the entertainment like dancers or musicians or magicians or what have you come out and include the audience.
Everyone who wanted to dance should have got up and danced. The performers should have performed. At some point, there wouldn't have been enough room for the girl to do her antics. If the girl was running into people, the crew should have told the parents that the girl needs to be aware of others or they will be asked to leave.
Agreed!!!
I am 100% in agreement with you
People are so inconsiderate of others. The crew should have told the parents to control their daughter.
Grumpy old man???? Well ...... You're not wrong, but the little kid is a disruption to the crew, the performers, and the guests.
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@@johnp139 Oppppps! Thank You
Totally agree with you. So disrespectful of the other guests
You are exactly right Don. It all boils down to how self centered (some) people are now. They couldn't care less how it affects others. The people trying to enjoy the real show should have flooded customer service with complaints.
You're not wrong at all. A few minutes of it.....okay, cute.....but just a few minutes. Since this was happening repeatedly, perhaps they should have been talked to prior to the show and told to keep her under control. Since someone HAD spoken to them (once or more?), I would say to ask them to leave unless they can control the kid.
The parents should have realized the dance floor is not for gymnastics moves and a shared space.
Self-centered and entitiled.
shame on the parents. this child should have been taken to the kids area where this behavior is permitted.
I definitely agree with you. You are not getting old. Some people don’t have any common sense anymore or respect.
You are justified in how you feel, Don. I would have said something to the crew. Well behaved kids are fine, but there is a limit to my patience.
The first night I would go and dance with her and try to redirect her and explain why she shouldn't be doing it. The second night, I would be saying something to the parents and the captain. It's a safety problem and prevents the performers from doing their jobs. And worse than that, it interferes with all the other paying passengers experience.
Definitely agree with you. Maybe I’m grumpy too!
You’re completely correct. This child needs to respect others spaces. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one. The crew needs to tell her parents to keep her in line or not go there.
Go to management next time and demand they leave. Problem solved.
I think that, after several nights of the little girl, several couples should’ve gotten together and all gone out on the dance floor and started dancing, blocking her way from some of her antics, and see what the parents‘s response would’ve been. If enough couples had gone out there covering the floor, she wouldn’t have been able to keep doing that. Maybe her parents would’ve finally gotten the message?
Thank you for addressing this problem. We see it often on the ships when we sail. We enjoy dancing but are afraid of tripping over a child when they take up the entire floor. We see this often on Royal Caribbean ships that have a Centrum. Many of the events and band performances are held there daily. If there are many children on the cruise, they tend to gravitate to the dance floor there. This included the flag ceremony as well as the band performances. The dance floors on most ships are tiny as it is. If space is taken up by children running around and doing cartwheels, there is no room for anyone else.
LOL. I think that family was on my Princess cruise in August!
Parents these days don't discipline their children at the best of times. In my day ,my children would behave or I would take them back to the cabin and put them in a time out. God forbid they should do something like that.
the entitled parents know exactly what they're doing; no restaurant or school would allow that; they have a "hey, it's our vacation" attitude
This is why they have a kids club with lots of dance parties.
Parents need to get a clue.
i blame management for not stepping in and stopping it
I would lose my mind.
im over 70 so i just say something now
I’m with you, Don!! It’s not whinny nor grumpy!! We deserve good service and people need to be respectful of others!! They let kids run around and don’t watch kids!! The next generation is going to be scary with no discipline! There is a kids club and use it!! Not fair to others - crying kids in shows - when you have kids you can’t go to all places- get them in kids club, go to your cabin and watch a movie or stay home parents!!!
No Don- if that kid got hurt, they would sue the cruise line!! I had kids and didn’t go or found them a place to go! Kids don’t belong in these places!! Thanks
Parents think that everyone loves their kids as much as they do.
As a parent it’s my responsibility to make sure that MY child is not out of my control at any time, and not annoying others in any way. Some parents don’t realize that other people don’t want to deal with their kids.
We too also feel like the grumpy old couple on a cruise ship lol for the very same reason. And it’s about the parenting. The disco courteousness is what is upsetting to us the lack of concern for others. They’re just happy to have their kid busy so they can enjoy their vacation
Parents need to parents, and if they don’t the crew should ask the family to leave.
Apparently the parents are spoiling their child letting her do what she did. Personally I would have told management to control their child.
Time for saying "no" to kid and for all people who want to dance to walk out there ask to be with performers mixing and to say.......OUR TURN NOW!!!
AGAIN, I’ve said this about a million times, kids under 18 DON’T belong on a cruise. If something ever happened to that little girl while she was running around, like tripping and putting her head through a speaker, the parents would have been the first to sue the cruise line. And I bet the parents would win.
It's sad.people have no real consideration for others.
There should be an age limit for a dance club.
Crew needs to impose limits and possible a curfew.
They just should have closed the show down. Ignorance is not an excuse. Or someone should have called out to them loudly hay call your dog off. 💪💪💪👊👊👊
Agree 100%! It’s not okay!! This is why I don’t want to take the chance on a cruise! That’s a valid reason to find a different kind of vacation for me.
You are not wrong. Parents don't seem to be looking after their own kids.
We ran into something like that. It was late at night in the Piazza, a band was playing, people were trying to dance, and one child was not only running around, he was also lying down on the dance floor. His parents didn't seem to care. I wondered who would scream the loudest if he had been stepped on, or if he had tripped someone up. We love to see a parent dance with their child, but not a child being allowed to do anything they want.
Everyone could have gotten up to dance and blocked the needy child from continuing her performance. Not enough people out there with passive aggressive Type A personalities, I say. Inadvertently trip her. Don't give her the space to act up. 😇
Clearly, someone needs to speak with the parents..
I guess the parents didn't think of bringing her back to the cabin. Or any other place on the cruise. It's a cruise. It's not their living room at home.
I get both sides of it. I have an ADHD special needs son. It was had to keep hiking contained. Actually, let me say exhausting, but everytime we were in a public place, we expected him to behave appropriately. If he wouldn't, he learned to expect that we were leaving and we truly left. Ar times, it was so exhausting that I'd me tempted to let him entertain himself, but I never did. Sounds like someone needs to direct them to the Kid's Club if there is one on MSC.
Don, I would never consider you a grumpy old man. I consider you more of a grumpy old woman.
I’m a ballroom dancer and I would have been upset that I would not have been able to dance because of this situation. I would report it to guest services.
If the parents know it’s difficult to keep the one child sitting, ( could be an artistic child), then choose another area to take the kids . The cruise ship have children areas and from what I understand, they are really good at catering to children of all ages, as well as, those with special needs, including providing a special color bracelet, pin, etc., so crew members, and others know that this child may need special assistant. The music was probably a way the parents kept the little girl engaged, but it shouldn’t be at the expense of the other cruise guess! Thanks for sharing
If the kid is artistic, then get them some crayons and paper to draw on. Artistic kids are usually well behaved.
The ship management is to blame as the child’s behaviour compromised health & safety regulations. These days this self-indulgent nonsense is too common.
I can’t believe management didn’t do something the first night.
The crew never set a clear expectation, you can't even set a clear expectation. You admit yourself that when they were told to keep their child away from the speaker they did. This child will be the next generation of Stef or Emma Cruises because she spent "every night dancing" and having fun.
Parents these days think they can be their kids best friends instead of being a parent first!
I would have filled out a comment card send to hotel sevices manager. Go to the top!!!!
You can ask to meet the hotel manager to discuss the problem.
Since you are friends with lots of cruise directors, ask them what they suggest to do😊👍
I meant Don.
100% AGREE
Mom of 5, grandma of 10 soon to be 12, I used to work at a preschool , I love kids. But I no longer want to go cruising on lines that cater to families because of the parents not controlling their kids.
I'm 100% with you because one set of parents refuse to parent. They're probably gleefully happy because she's entertaining the audience too vs. the performers and audience wanting to do what they wanted to. Formally complain to the ED/CD and when they show up they can kindly be told to leave and/or control their child as there have been numerous complaints.
I hope that comments are made every 20 minutes when a new act starts to keep the floor clear or encourage adults to dance. I'd be bold and shame the parents fir not caring that 99.9999999% of the audience every night hasn't enjoyed thd show because of your child's constant interruption and actions
The performers have been put in danger too. If they fell or tripped, they could lose their job or even career!
Awesome shirt Don! 👍👍👍👍👍
They shgould take her to the children's area and if there isn't one, there should be.
The crew was actually allowing that child to place herself in danger of having someone fall over her. They also have a duty of care for their performers and other passengers, and the child's parents should have been told to control her or leave. The child and her family should have been banned the second time it happened.
My wife is from the Midwest USA. When she first came to the east coast she couldn't figure out how to navigate the indifference to other people and general rudeness. It was making her quite frustrated. The advice i gave her has served her well: elbows out. Don't duck and dive around rude people: stiffen the shoulders, hands in pockets, elbows slightly bent, and stay on your parh. It works for walking down the street, standing in line, and bratty kids with rude parents. She cartwheels into a couple hipchecks and that will be the end of that. If a child crashes into an adult, the adult only moves if they want to.
The kid should be under control. If the parents can’t/ won’t get their kid controlled, ban them from future cruises.
I agree with you that the parents should have kept the child in tow.
I would have had words with the parents about it. And if necessary, the crew should ban that family from going to that area for the rest of the cruise. That type of behaviour is inexcusable.
Irresponsible entitled parents. It’s their responsibility to watch their child and stop inappropriate behavior.
My son was like that. He would always want to center and it took quite some time to teach him that it was NOT proper! This is when I was 30, my son was 4, and you are correct it is NOT right for a child to be let loose like that. It took about 2 months for him to finally get the idea that it was not right.
I love kids, i have grandchildren. That said, I mostly cruise when kids are in school. So far so good 🤞🤞
Nope! My son wouldn't even think about it. He knows how respectful we are of other people, even if they're not reciprocating! It's not the kids' fault, 100% of the blame goes on her ignorant parents!
Are those mistakes on your shirt intentional?
Be thankful you are not on a Disney cruise. On a Disney cruise at Hopkins, quite a lot more. So when you go on vacation and you go to a theme park or you go to a cruise ship it’s like there are people around lifeguards to babysit and watch my kids and I get to check out. And it affects vacation everyone else luckily on the Disney ship there are exclusive adult only areas where you can go and take a break but like you said there are areas where there are shows going on and you can dance out front and they want to come down so no, should you be upset not at the child but yes, you should be upset at the parents. They’re not parenting. Sadly, if this one on for hours, the proper thing is 1 or both parents have to take the child and leave, but then that would affect their vacation and they’d rather affect others vacation than their vacation. lol . As Dr. Laura says being a parent is a full-time job and you have it until you’re 18 once you’re 18 then you can go on vacation and have a proper vacation or do whatever you want to do until then. It’s a full-time job lol. I do have to add that 90% if not 95% of the parents out there doing an excellent job from what I view and I see the situation and how they handle it and I’m like I would never be able to do it as good as they do but you do get the exceptions or maybe they’ve had a bad day a bad week a bad year at work and they’re just at wits end. And I do understand that that’s why I don’t make a comment. I guess to their face but on boards like this thank you for your good work.
as long as the kid is bothering everyone else she is not bothering the parents
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No, the crew needs to intervene and talk to the mom and dad.
Doesn't the cruise line have a manager in the venue monitoring the situation? Or is it like NCL where the management is always absent??
I love kids and I'm glad the girl was having fun but she has to learn boundaries. Especially when she's being a safety hazard to herself and the performers. I wish security would have enforced that. Have fun but safe.
This reminds me of the late-night-in-the-jacuuzi session we tried to have as adults until it was filled up with a bunch of kids. OK - it isn't a big pool. No - we don't splash. No - we don't snorkel. ARGH.
The parents are at fault -as are the crew who allowed the parents to do this night after night. I hope you wrote about this in your end-of-cruise survey. I totally understand why some crew members fear to intercede, but this is a case for an officer or security. The child was disrupting the ship's scheduled entertainment. Once? Maybe... But the second time it happened the parents should have been pulled aside by security. This kind of inconsiderate behavior will continue until the rest of us stand up for our rights as fellow passengers. We paid for our tickets, too!
I bet this child has tons of energy all the time. And the parents have figured out that if she dances for three hours and has fun, then they don't have to deal with her energy for the night and also she probably goes to bed easier. Yes, someone should have said something to the parents. They can go out and supervise her ON THE FLOOR, not from a chair. Give her 15 minutes then make her come back and sit. I bet she couldn't sit for hours, hence why she danced for hours. I feel sorry for the kid actually. So much energy and no one to direct it so she was in the way.
I have been on a couple of cruises this year where a lot of people were inconsiderate. Adults and children. It also didn't matter what cruise line you were on. I have two children (now adults) and never would have allowed them to continually do that. We all might have let them at one time for a few minutes, but then you need to know when to reign them back in. Also it always amazes me how late some of these children are up on the cruises. I'm at that age where these children running wild could trip us and we would get hurt and the parents would just walk away.
It should be adult only venue. Adults should dance and get in her way. Parents should be reprimanded.
My son join us in every activity in every cruise since he was 5 years old, but he had a good behavior and never jump or run if not in the kids area.
Parents need to control their children. But still have a good time
Absolutely we used to go to supper clubs with my grandparents and parents. If we were on the dance floor an adult was with us
I do not know why the algorithm gave me this video, and I also do not know why it fills my heart with joy to listen to your complaining about a child being a nuisance. I am also in my '50s and I laugh about how I'm turning into a grumpy old man, but damn it you're right! Lol. Great video ❤
That's why I don't think little kids belong on cruise ships. BUT since they are, maybe ships that cater to them should be providing a sitter service. That child sounds like she has a LOT of energy and needs to get tired out before bed.