I've had the X10 for about 6 months and I've now had the X20 for about a month now, On the side note I also own the Elite series 2. The X10 is a solid controller but when the X20 was released I thought if it felt just like the X10 with all the added extras then I was on to a winner. The sticks on the X20 don't feel as good as the X10 also the build quality feels more solid on the X10. Overall I prefer to use my X10 as my daily driver even over my Elite series 2. The X20 does not come with any software like the X10 does which was also a deal breaker for me. Here's a quick tip - As the software for the X10 only works with android. Once you have used a android to download software and fine tuned your X10 you can now use the controller with say an apple device with all the settings still saved on the controller.
I might do a follow up video on the X20 specifically... maybe even try to open it to see if something can be done with the d-pad. The sticks are not terrible, but they are not better than the X10 to me.
Im gonna order x20, if they dont lie wireless 1000 hz pollint rate is amazing. Also 4 backbuttons is really good for me. Is there PC software for backbuttons? Thanks
So I have a pretty decent amount of use on the x10 and love it. Was very excited for the x20. It's a lot lighter and sure has the placebo of feeling cheaper (texture and weight). But I liked the shape, like that it's lighter, and and enjoyed that the bumpers and buttons are just like mouse clicks. Was so stoked for 4 back buttons.... BUT... the snapback on the sticks is truly terrible. If i'm holding right to quickly scroll through items and then let go it moves back a menu item. If I have my character moving in a direction with the stick all the way and then let go the face the opposite direction. The X10 doesn't do that. To me it's the only flaw of the x20 but it's a fatal flaw ( to me ) that shouldn't be happening at that price point.
I get why some people could see value in the X20 but there would be a lot of omissions required to really appreciate that controller for its features. Anyone wanting an X20 might want to look at Manba One V2 instead tbh.
Rumble is your traditional rotary motor, feels good and it’s a good feeling rotary, not overly noisy either. Same for gyro, reliable, nothing abnormal to note. I still regularly recommend the X10, which is a testament considering the market evolved so much in the last 6 months, and it’s still relevant.
I own the X10 and bought the X20 hoping it would be the upgrade I was hoping for...1000Hz polling rate over dongle and 4 rear buttons. But there are some shortcomings, such as the rear buttons only registering 1 press at a time, and the sticks feeling worse than the X10. I also agree that the X10 feels more premium, but I was willing to look past that. I ended up returning the X20 and keeping the X10. Both solid controllers for the price. I feel like it's a matter of quality vs quantity... the X20 is feature packed, but feels lower quality. Not that the X20 feels super cheap, but the X10 just feels like it should cost more.
Yup, quality (X10) vs quantity (X20), 100% in agreement! And that last sentence you dropped? Bro, I'm gonna let you cook, keeping dropping those hot bars!! 🔥🔥🔥
@@GameTechTalk Exactly. What we need is an upgraded X10 with 1000 Hz polling rate over 2.4 GHz, trigger stops and a d-pad similar to the Direwolf 2. Was disappointed in the feel and face buttons of the X20 compared to the X10.
I got the X10. I found later the X20 on YT videos but as soon as I saw the reviews I could feel through the screen the overall lower quality of the controller. I am keeping the X10. Don't care about those extra features.
Really curious with EasySMX controllers. It's just that they have identical controllers with other brands. The X05 is almost identical to Nova Lite, even the dongle (besides the switch mode at the back). The X15 has identical controller to Aolion (starfield & zelda design). Then there's the M15 which is the same to Memo S3. The M10 is more promising though. I do prefer gamesir controllers more. I just recently bought the Gamesir Tarantula. Then after seeing your video on Aolion K10, I bought that too. The purple color just looks so good and resemble the Evangelion Unit 01 color scheme.
I do have a theory about that which is that there is really a small handful of companies that manufacture. I did read that apparently in Asia, there is a strong corporate culture to share technologies versus Western world that’s more « my technology, my profit, you do similar, you steal, I sue ». So with that in mind, they all intertwine in some capacity. For example, I’m convinced GameSir is indeed a manufacturer, but all the same, they license their tech to a bunch of other brands. I don’t know for sure but there’s definitely more than on cook in the kitchen, and more than one hand in the pot too.
@@ChocoAL14 thats called oem, a handful of manufactures manufacture and sell these controllers at a fraction of the cost to other brands and those brands just need to slap their logo on and resell it to the mass market
What should i pic I need good analog sticks to play apex legends and 4 Buttons . Will be x20 will be good enough to play apex legends or should i comsider manba v2 ?
It's a surprisingly very capable controller. I do like the balance with Quality of Life that it has over other options in that price bracket. Overall a pretty robust solution!
is the x15 really that bad? I wanted it over the x05 for the back paddles (to map the paddles to gear shifts in racing games), so you're saying I should forget about it and go with x05?
It's not that it's that bad, I would've praised it more if it would've at least been as good as the X05 but with pretty RGB. It's not "the worst ever" but it's definitely worst than the X05, both for sticks and dpad, but it's a lot prettier. Pretty is ok when everything is good, not when a lot if left to be desired. That's my honest take.
@@JoaoMXN I would gladly take "a bit more latency" versus "terrible everything else". I can't, in good conscience, recommend X15 for anyone serious about gaming. You want to lay back, enjoy some couch casual gaming, and you want it to look cool while doing it? X15 is your pick. The moment it gets serious, latency won't save you from the build quality, the buttons that feel cheap, the sticks that are not reliable, etc. It's low cost with low quality from where I stand.
@@GameTechTalk I agree actually. The problem is the stick latency of for example the X10. It's like 160% more than the X15. Yes, it doesn't make sense why it has so much, but it's worse than controllers from the last 2 decades.
so in my country i have to pay a decent amount on import tax for tech stuff so some of these prices might seem too high i have these options easysmx x05 31$ gamesir nova lite 33.5$ easysmx x15 40$ 8bitdo ultimate 2c 46$ gamesir t4 cyclone pro 58$ i will be using them on pc only wirelessly which would should i get
Well, there is always the question of contrast and perspective. I do wish for you to enjoy it and like it. I rated it based off of the fact that I did pin it against 3 other models but maybe if I had judged it alone, it wouldn't have been as easy and obvious to see areas of opportunities in comparison to other models. I hope this makes sense, I think you will love it for what it is. Cheers!
What do you think which controllers have better analogue sticks then dual shock 4 ...vedar 4 pro , manba v2 , gulikit kk3 max, manba v2 ..note vedar 4 and gulikit is more expensive so ..and i play apex legends...so what will be best for me in case of analog sticks and features in x 20 price range ?
vader 4 pro or cyclone 2, i have both and they are both great for FPS. i also was able to try out the x20 and while its not the worst out there it had a slight feel of cheapness to it that my others didn't. plus the lack of software was something i didn't care for.
@@GameTechTalk i'll admit the cyclone 2 isn't perfect but its still been great during gameplay. i still prefer my vader 4 since it feels a bit more quality but both are a great value at their prices. I found some great deals on both which made it easy to chose these over the other ones i was looking at like the manbaone v2 and machenike g5 v2 with its swappable sticks. i did note that while the trigger stops on the cyclone are a clever design it wasn't as easy to switch them while playing like the vader's which i could do with a quick swipe of my finger without taking my fingers off the controls. both felt really great with the vader being the winner due to the tension rings that really let me fine tune to my sweet spot and the ease of accessing every button and function. i noticed an immediate improvement to my aiming using the dongles. I normally used xbox series standard gamepads for the last few years and these are a massive improvement that i can't believe cost the same as the standard first party controllers.
Love my X10 but wanted 4 back buttons. I’m disabled & use cont w my steam deck. Just got the X20 yesterday wish it had feel of 10. Any suggestions under $250. SD comp, Hall effect, 4 prog back buttons?
I'd say like @mrquaackers. X10 is the best quality. Whereas X20 is best at the most feature, but I'd say the overload of features does not outweigh the quality gap that the X10 positively has.
No, the X05 is a great budget controller but if you can get a Dualshock 4 new and reliable for the same price, it's not a fair battle to be honest, the DS4 wins.
@@bad_atgames not so much. I paid at Black Friday last year around 25€ for 9124 pro and 35€ for x10, if I remember correctly. At the end I was at around 100€ for one 9124 pro and two x10s. More or less.
Going off of what the website said (PS3 support). Did they take off that info?? The X05 is fine when looking at regular prices, I think at least. But if you can get an X10 for 30? It's a no brainer for sure! The X05 would have to be 10-15 to even make sense of the X10 at that price. And you mentioned the Bayard 9124 Pro my dude. Those controllers were so underrated. I think EasySMX was not known nearly enough then but I reviewed them both highly (Bayard 9124 and Bayard 9124 Pro). You got great taste!
@@GameTechTalk thank you. 👍 only thing I don’t like about the 9124 pro is the lighting. I have to turn it off everytime. And that I need different button combinations for different connection modes… but I bought it mainly for the kids, so it’s not dramatic. X10 is one of the best. About the prices I’m not 100% sure, but there was indeed a discount at Black Friday last year. And also because they freshly came out back then. Maybe this year Black Friday they will be again cheaper, for everyone else that doesn’t got them yet.
Yeah, I'm like a car losing control on the highway 😅 I'm overcorrecting my steering wheel so much that I'm over-pronouncing to help me correct over time ahahha!
@@GameTechTalk Wouldn't worry about it, man. It's possible to pay too much attention to the comment section. Picking on someone's pronunciation isn't what I'd call constructive criticism.
@@OjiiOsoi Right, I try to look at it that way, do I think some people are overly aggressive about things that ticks them off? Definitely. But it's more power to me if I can slice through the noise and get the value to add it to my list of things I could improve. I won't fix everything, nor will I do it in a day, but over a couple of years? I'll get better everytime. Thanks for engaging my guy! :)
😂😂😂 Let me check the retention on this video after a week or so, if it works better than usual, expect me to suddenly have my english get worst and worst! 😂
That's oddly specific. You're basically looking to charge with USB-C to USB-C protocol that supports higher wattage. I confirm it charges just fine, but I am also certain that it won't use the entire 27 watt to charge, these batteries are way too small to handle such a power load, the battery would probably die within days/weeks if so. I doubt it uses any more than would any regular USB, which is what, 5w? That is even if it uses 5w.
I've had the X10 for about 6 months and I've now had the X20 for about a month now, On the side note I also own the Elite series 2. The X10 is a solid controller but when the X20 was released I thought if it felt just like the X10 with all the added extras then I was on to a winner. The sticks on the X20 don't feel as good as the X10 also the build quality feels more solid on the X10. Overall I prefer to use my X10 as my daily driver even over my Elite series 2. The X20 does not come with any software like the X10 does which was also a deal breaker for me. Here's a quick tip - As the software for the X10 only works with android. Once you have used a android to download software and fine tuned your X10 you can now use the controller with say an apple device with all the settings still saved on the controller.
so it can't be adjusted from keylink? can it be calibrated or adjusted somehow or is it just grabbing the controller and adapt to it?
I might do a follow up video on the X20 specifically... maybe even try to open it to see if something can be done with the d-pad. The sticks are not terrible, but they are not better than the X10 to me.
In terms of vibration which is better?
@@sijanalam9738 definitely the X20 bro, without a doubt the X20.
Im gonna order x20, if they dont lie wireless 1000 hz pollint rate is amazing. Also 4 backbuttons is really good for me. Is there PC software for backbuttons? Thanks
Thank you very much for the review!
My pleasure, always!
So I have a pretty decent amount of use on the x10 and love it. Was very excited for the x20. It's a lot lighter and sure has the placebo of feeling cheaper (texture and weight). But I liked the shape, like that it's lighter, and and enjoyed that the bumpers and buttons are just like mouse clicks. Was so stoked for 4 back buttons.... BUT... the snapback on the sticks is truly terrible. If i'm holding right to quickly scroll through items and then let go it moves back a menu item. If I have my character moving in a direction with the stick all the way and then let go the face the opposite direction. The X10 doesn't do that. To me it's the only flaw of the x20 but it's a fatal flaw ( to me ) that shouldn't be happening at that price point.
I get why some people could see value in the X20 but there would be a lot of omissions required to really appreciate that controller for its features. Anyone wanting an X20 might want to look at Manba One V2 instead tbh.
Totally agree.
Loved your video! What are your thoughts about the rumble and gyro on the X10 since it has the most quality out of all of them?
Rumble is your traditional rotary motor, feels good and it’s a good feeling rotary, not overly noisy either. Same for gyro, reliable, nothing abnormal to note. I still regularly recommend the X10, which is a testament considering the market evolved so much in the last 6 months, and it’s still relevant.
I own the X10 and bought the X20 hoping it would be the upgrade I was hoping for...1000Hz polling rate over dongle and 4 rear buttons. But there are some shortcomings, such as the rear buttons only registering 1 press at a time, and the sticks feeling worse than the X10. I also agree that the X10 feels more premium, but I was willing to look past that. I ended up returning the X20 and keeping the X10. Both solid controllers for the price. I feel like it's a matter of quality vs quantity... the X20 is feature packed, but feels lower quality. Not that the X20 feels super cheap, but the X10 just feels like it should cost more.
Yup, quality (X10) vs quantity (X20), 100% in agreement! And that last sentence you dropped? Bro, I'm gonna let you cook, keeping dropping those hot bars!! 🔥🔥🔥
@@GameTechTalk Exactly. What we need is an upgraded X10 with 1000 Hz polling rate over 2.4 GHz, trigger stops and a d-pad similar to the Direwolf 2. Was disappointed in the feel and face buttons of the X20 compared to the X10.
I got the X10. I found later the X20 on YT videos but as soon as I saw the reviews I could feel through the screen the overall lower quality of the controller. I am keeping the X10. Don't care about those extra features.
@@Jeepster71 I’d co-sign a X10 v2 for sure!
@@mutchlouis9707 The X10 is a beast!
To represent the whole set, this would be the EasySmX XXX line of controllers
HEY!!! Who told you about my original thumbnail design uh? Are you spying my Mac or something?!? 😅
Really curious with EasySMX controllers. It's just that they have identical controllers with other brands. The X05 is almost identical to Nova Lite, even the dongle (besides the switch mode at the back). The X15 has identical controller to Aolion (starfield & zelda design). Then there's the M15 which is the same to Memo S3. The M10 is more promising though.
I do prefer gamesir controllers more. I just recently bought the Gamesir Tarantula. Then after seeing your video on Aolion K10, I bought that too. The purple color just looks so good and resemble the Evangelion Unit 01 color scheme.
I do have a theory about that which is that there is really a small handful of companies that manufacture. I did read that apparently in Asia, there is a strong corporate culture to share technologies versus Western world that’s more « my technology, my profit, you do similar, you steal, I sue ». So with that in mind, they all intertwine in some capacity.
For example, I’m convinced GameSir is indeed a manufacturer, but all the same, they license their tech to a bunch of other brands. I don’t know for sure but there’s definitely more than on cook in the kitchen, and more than one hand in the pot too.
@@ChocoAL14 thats called oem, a handful of manufactures manufacture and sell these controllers at a fraction of the cost to other brands and those brands just need to slap their logo on and resell it to the mass market
I was able to pick up an X05 for £17 on Amazon, and it's coming tomorrow. From the sounds of things, I've very much got bang for my buck :D
That you did! It's a pretty reliable, if but humble, controller. I like it!
What should i pic I need good analog sticks to play apex legends and 4 Buttons . Will be x20 will be good enough to play apex legends or should i comsider manba v2 ?
@@GameHub-f9l Manba V2 would be my recommendation. Very solid controller overall!
I have the X05 i won from their discord raffle, enjoying it so far 👌🤘
It's a surprisingly very capable controller. I do like the balance with Quality of Life that it has over other options in that price bracket. Overall a pretty robust solution!
is the x15 really that bad? I wanted it over the x05 for the back paddles (to map the paddles to gear shifts in racing games), so you're saying I should forget about it and go with x05?
It's not that it's that bad, I would've praised it more if it would've at least been as good as the X05 but with pretty RGB. It's not "the worst ever" but it's definitely worst than the X05, both for sticks and dpad, but it's a lot prettier.
Pretty is ok when everything is good, not when a lot if left to be desired. That's my honest take.
In terms of latency (as per Gamepadla website), X15 is far superior than the other X models.
@@JoaoMXN I would gladly take "a bit more latency" versus "terrible everything else". I can't, in good conscience, recommend X15 for anyone serious about gaming. You want to lay back, enjoy some couch casual gaming, and you want it to look cool while doing it? X15 is your pick.
The moment it gets serious, latency won't save you from the build quality, the buttons that feel cheap, the sticks that are not reliable, etc. It's low cost with low quality from where I stand.
@@GameTechTalk I agree actually. The problem is the stick latency of for example the X10. It's like 160% more than the X15. Yes, it doesn't make sense why it has so much, but it's worse than controllers from the last 2 decades.
so in my country i have to pay a decent amount on import tax for tech stuff so some of these prices might seem too high i have these options easysmx x05 31$ gamesir nova lite 33.5$ easysmx x15 40$ 8bitdo ultimate 2c 46$ gamesir t4 cyclone pro 58$ i will be using them on pc only wirelessly which would should i get
i know you don't really recommend the easysmx x15 in this video but with coupons i was able to get it for 27$ hope i don't regret my purchase
Well, there is always the question of contrast and perspective. I do wish for you to enjoy it and like it. I rated it based off of the fact that I did pin it against 3 other models but maybe if I had judged it alone, it wouldn't have been as easy and obvious to see areas of opportunities in comparison to other models. I hope this makes sense, I think you will love it for what it is.
Cheers!
What do you think which controllers have better analogue sticks then dual shock 4 ...vedar 4 pro , manba v2 , gulikit kk3 max, manba v2 ..note vedar 4 and gulikit is more expensive so ..and i play apex legends...so what will be best for me in case of analog sticks and features in x 20 price range ?
I'd say wait for the Cyclone 2 Pro review that will come out on 25th or 26th and see if that one works for you. It might be your best bet.
@@GameTechTalk thank you so much
vader 4 pro or cyclone 2, i have both and they are both great for FPS. i also was able to try out the x20 and while its not the worst out there it had a slight feel of cheapness to it that my others didn't. plus the lack of software was something i didn't care for.
@@musek5048 I literally finished benchmarking the Cyclone 2 and I got MANY things to say, the video should release tomorrow if all goes well.
@@GameTechTalk i'll admit the cyclone 2 isn't perfect but its still been great during gameplay. i still prefer my vader 4 since it feels a bit more quality but both are a great value at their prices. I found some great deals on both which made it easy to chose these over the other ones i was looking at like the manbaone v2 and machenike g5 v2 with its swappable sticks. i did note that while the trigger stops on the cyclone are a clever design it wasn't as easy to switch them while playing like the vader's which i could do with a quick swipe of my finger without taking my fingers off the controls. both felt really great with the vader being the winner due to the tension rings that really let me fine tune to my sweet spot and the ease of accessing every button and function. i noticed an immediate improvement to my aiming using the dongles. I normally used xbox series standard gamepads for the last few years and these are a massive improvement that i can't believe cost the same as the standard first party controllers.
What kontrolfreeks work with the x10?
I believe the Xbox ones should but it's going to be a very very slighty tighter fit so you may want to be careful when/if removing them.
I got the easysmx 15 I love it got it for my pc I want the x20 for steamdeck
Happy to hear you're finding gaming solutions to your wants! Cheers
I bought the m15 and x15 they haven't gotten them but I'm soo excited because I only paid 50 bucks for both
Ohh yeah that's a pretty sick deal, gg!
@@GameTechTalk yeah there only 3 hours away I'm so excited
Love my X10 but wanted 4 back buttons. I’m disabled & use cont w my steam deck. Just got the X20 yesterday wish it had feel of 10. Any suggestions under $250. SD comp, Hall effect, 4 prog back buttons?
Forgot to add I mainly play Forza, Hades & Dead Cell type games
Vader 4 Pro is the one that comes to mind. It'll serve you right and then some. Phenomenal product!
@@GameTechTalk thank you!!!!! Going crazy ordering wrong ones. Appreciate it!
which is best overall easysmx x10 or x20 ? I'm so much confused !
X10 my friend
I'd say like @mrquaackers. X10 is the best quality. Whereas X20 is best at the most feature, but I'd say the overload of features does not outweigh the quality gap that the X10 positively has.
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could u do a video with best xbox controller?
I do intend to do a buying guide soon that will hopefully pin over 50 controllers to address various purposes!
Do you think the X05 is better than a dualshock 4?
No, the X05 is a great budget controller but if you can get a Dualshock 4 new and reliable for the same price, it's not a fair battle to be honest, the DS4 wins.
You sure x05 is compatible with ps3? I don’t see any hint on this on the official website…
That would be the only advantage of it
Price as well
@@bad_atgames not so much. I paid at Black Friday last year around 25€ for 9124 pro and 35€ for x10, if I remember correctly. At the end I was at around 100€ for one 9124 pro and two x10s. More or less.
Going off of what the website said (PS3 support). Did they take off that info?? The X05 is fine when looking at regular prices, I think at least. But if you can get an X10 for 30? It's a no brainer for sure! The X05 would have to be 10-15 to even make sense of the X10 at that price.
And you mentioned the Bayard 9124 Pro my dude. Those controllers were so underrated. I think EasySMX was not known nearly enough then but I reviewed them both highly (Bayard 9124 and Bayard 9124 Pro). You got great taste!
@@GameTechTalk thank you. 👍 only thing I don’t like about the 9124 pro is the lighting. I have to turn it off everytime. And that I need different button combinations for different connection modes… but I bought it mainly for the kids, so it’s not dramatic. X10 is one of the best.
About the prices I’m not 100% sure, but there was indeed a discount at Black Friday last year. And also because they freshly came out back then. Maybe this year Black Friday they will be again cheaper, for everyone else that doesn’t got them yet.
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Yeah, I'm like a car losing control on the highway 😅 I'm overcorrecting my steering wheel so much that I'm over-pronouncing to help me correct over time ahahha!
@@GameTechTalk Wouldn't worry about it, man. It's possible to pay too much attention to the comment section. Picking on someone's pronunciation isn't what I'd call constructive criticism.
@@OjiiOsoi Right, I try to look at it that way, do I think some people are overly aggressive about things that ticks them off? Definitely. But it's more power to me if I can slice through the noise and get the value to add it to my list of things I could improve. I won't fix everything, nor will I do it in a day, but over a couple of years? I'll get better everytime.
Thanks for engaging my guy! :)
Lol that intro. You should choose another word and say it wrong on purpose to troll youre subscribers.
😂😂😂 Let me check the retention on this video after a week or so, if it works better than usual, expect me to suddenly have my english get worst and worst! 😂
Can i charge x20 with the mobile 27 watt charger???
That's oddly specific. You're basically looking to charge with USB-C to USB-C protocol that supports higher wattage. I confirm it charges just fine, but I am also certain that it won't use the entire 27 watt to charge, these batteries are way too small to handle such a power load, the battery would probably die within days/weeks if so. I doubt it uses any more than would any regular USB, which is what, 5w? That is even if it uses 5w.