Si la version ALPS tiene un comportamiento extraño prueba a cambiar a un usb 2.0 y a desconectar y volver a conectar el mando, también puedes desactivar steam imput en el juego donde lo vayas a usar ya que puede dar problemas. Por ultimo revisa la configuracion en la aplicacion de big big won tanta en el movil como en el pc no vaya a ser que hayas puesto la zona muerta mas alta o algo raro.
These are all great suggestions, I will pin it in case people can find resolve with your recommendations, thank you greatly. Please also look for @pawes7418 comment for more great suggestions for ALPS gyro! (Translated: "If the ALPS version has strange behavior, try changing to USB 2.0 and disconnecting and reconnecting the controller. You can also disable steam input in the game where you are going to use it as it can cause problems. Finally, check the settings in the big big won application on both the mobile and the PC in case you have set the dead zone higher or something strange."
@@stevensv4864porque soy de españa y no se hablar ingles, no he probado la versión TMR pero si quieres un mando para juegos competitivos estoy seguro que ALPS es mejor que TMR y si quieres un mando que no sea para competir TMR es mejor ya que los sticks te duraran mas tiempo y el consumo también es menor.
@@asotaventoasotavento2789 pues creo q no deberías opinar con esa seguridad sin antes haber probado los TMR. Jamás pienso comprar un alps para q desarrolle drift, yo tengo un g7 se y va joya aún después de más de un año de uso pero se supone q los TMR son una mejora
Watched the other video, ordered the TMR, then started watching this, paniced and was about to cancel it, got to the end of the video and glad I wasn't hasty! Appreciate your review, defo one of the reasons I purchased one.
I had a similar rollercoaster after I uploaded the hands-on video, I took the TMR and I had this: "Oh no!" moment. I decided to upgrade the fw only before I was ready to shoot and that made the surprised result I wasn't expecting to have. This couldn't have been a more sudden realization for me. Ultimately, things worked out well and I'm glad I didn't give a bad recommendation after all but it came very close. Lesson learned though, lesson learned! Thanks for sharing! :)
@@humanbass Thanks mate, I do have a vader 4 pro, which I absolutely love. I was having issues with it, but it turns out it was the game so I didn't need to buy another new controller :(
so i was almost set on picking up the tarantula pro after your review. I have used Rainbow 2 SE from bigbig won for about 7 months now pretty much daily, and sticks did develop about 1.5 percent of drift (the right one, with left pretty much unchanged), BUT those potentiometer sticks (at least for me) did feel much more responsive than hall effects of v3p and t4k. Also i did really like T4K, but A button did develop double click in relative short time (about a month), but the bigger problem for me was the fact that t4k used 2pin mouse switches, which are uncommon, while blitz 2 im pretty sure just uses standart 3pin ones. I loved my time with Rainbow 2 SE, but i do kinda miss having mechanical face buttons, and REALLY miss mouse click triggers from vader. This looks like a great controller for me
That's where my frustration came from. I would tend to say that TMR felt on-par to ALPS but it's like a baton was nudge into my wheel just as I was about to clock in the time to confirm that information. With that said, if they are not the same, they are much much MUCH closer than Hall-effect and ALPS ever was, if that's anything to go by. If you ever laid hands on the Kaleid for Xbox, or G7 HE both from GameSir? The face buttons from the Blitz2 feel identical.
@@GameTechTalk yeah T4k is T4 Kaleid from gamesir, with a crystal seethrough shell, it released prior to Xbox branded one. Finally pulled a plug on blitz 2 tho.
7:28 That is the key with the TMR sticks you have to tweek the curve. Once that is done, the sticks are phenomenally quick and precise. Did that for my tarantula pro. I did the same with my Apex 4, even though it does not have TMR sticks, they do have 10 bit resolution, even the vader 4 pro has 12 bit resolution, after the tweeking it, it is now phenomenal as well.
@GameTechTalk yea on my Gamesir G7 se you have a limited curve adjustment. But when I saw the Tarantula Pro had a curve option with 4 sliding points on it, the Apex 4 only had 2 sliding points, it was on, and into the testing lab, I went lol 😆
thx for the review, I asked you once before to review this controller because there was basically zero reviews , and now i am totally sold and ordered the TMR version , i know the triggers aren't analog but that's why i have other controllers , and most games actually do not take advantege of the analog triggers . i have the EasySMX x20 and the Flydigi Vader 4 pro and they are really good i like them a lot . the Gyro assisted aiming that is new for me , i always thought those are just gemmick ! but seeing you break your score that , that is some revolotionary tech , i think the high polling rate might be a part of it too . i kow the gyro has only 1000Hz but the total bandwidth rated to 2000Hz witch is double of the best before this tech. I was exited to see what the new tech can do , i was expecting it to see some improvement , since on paper it does have more , but i didn't expect it to translate to that much better performance on the score tests , i know you said that you have a perfect setup now and we shouldn't compare this to the old score , but you kinda did it yourself and compared your score and considered it a record for you lol.
For the non-gyro, I was definitely in an optimal setup, but with added gyro, I hardly did any tests on video (but many off-screen) and those were made with optimal setup as well. That new record definitely was a good chunk beyond anything prior, approximately 8k more to put things in perspective. I always tried gyro on and off ever since Uncharted 2 I think? It had gyro aiming and I was surprised then just how viable that it could be but the issue has been implementing the tech, it's not easy to find that perfect balance of responsiveness and no one does it as good as BIGBIG WON except VR which has gyro on a whole other level too.
@@GameTechTalk I did try playing with gyro in the past on the PS4 or 3 i don't remember but it's my first time on your video to see it beat the normal aiming with sticks , and if i am not wrong, you were aiming with the sicks and correcting with the gyro to aim faster. In some video if am not wrong it can be set on some controllers to get the gyro to work only when pressing the left trigger and get it to work in any game . About the ALPS vs TMR , if we think about it, the potential meter should have always the lowest latency because it's just a closed loop on variable resistance , in terms of accuracy the TMR is advertised to have times better accuracy. There's a newly added data on Gamepadla for both of these bigbigwon controllers and the ALPS model seems extremely optimized with 2.42 ms on the stick input. The TMR version has only the button latency results with 4.81 on xinput wired , and 1250 stick positions. Now i know the data might not be super accurate but it's what we have. The new Gamesir cyclone 2 has TMR and is showing impressive results.
@@MonderMatrix With my 38k score, I would say 90% of my aiming was achieved with gyro and little nudges with the sticks. You are correct about being able to have gyro be on exclusively when holding a button, that's a feature one can activate. GameSir and TMR has been my best experience yet, with that said, I think 2.4ms latency to not be enough to warrant a loss in performance but rather a slight adjustment if someone spent a thousand hours on 2.42, and then was to move to 4.81. I can't blame wanting the better outcome though, I will have to retest the ALPS model in due time!
@@GameTechTalk I have reading te comments on this video , there is a lots of interesting stuf and for sure it wouuld be nice to see a follow up video but in my opinion it should afte their next firmware update so it would make more sence to compare without any bugs. and the bigbigwon seem to have a decent latency compared to other companies, flydigi for example have high latency on the sticks but they say they addressed that in an update. the stick resolution on the Gamepadla is also comfusing.
@@MonderMatrix I'm definitely going to be paying more and more attention to BIGBIG WON, they seem to have a very unique approach in their design focus, which I can appreciate!
The problem with Gyro on ALPS version is that ALPS itself don't have perfect 0 spot , there's always some minor values to left or right side of the sticks and that causes inconsistent gyro movement to one of the side. With hall/tmr sticks you don't have that problem. And this is the MAJOR issues with gyro to joystick setup with alps based controllers (yes YOU Flydigi)
You piqued my curiosity, thank you very much for that explanation, I was not familiar with this issue. Do you happen to know if increasing the deadzone on the sticks somewhat mitigate that issue? I got to run some tests! Thanks a lot!!
@@GameTechTalk You need to increase deadzone and lower to minimum response curve for right stick for about 10% movement , then you can achieve gyro without stick drift
@@TylerJovan It was a firmware update that caused the issue, they released an update shortly after my video, I have tested since and while I haven't gone into a whole set of rounds in Aimlabs, I can at least attest to the gyro juking left no longer does it for me.
This review update is really good. Im happy they fixed the tmr stick issue. Right now im stuck between this tmr controller and the aim modded dualsense controller. My only concern with the aim controller is the hall effect sticks are technically going to start to be considered outdated in the aim controller considering tmr is available. And this 80 dollar controller is obviously cheaper than an aim controller but im such a fan of the ps5 controller layout that i still might buy an aim controller.
If you check on my channel, there is a controller that is also symmetrical with TMR sticks, that might work for you! There are a lot of great options, it's a great time to be on the market for controllers, between the Blitz2, the Tarantula, the Vader 4 Pro, and many many more options, it's almost a tough call ahahaah!
hey my man, I know I sound like a broken record, always asking the same thing. But I've seen both the bibig tmr and tarantula tmr teardown, I've seen that they have joysticks from different brands and now I'm wondering which of the two is the best. Besides, the bibig has 2000hz, does that really make much of a difference?
It's extremely hard to tell because the difference falls within what I would consider as margin of error, or too impacted by external variables such as shape, comfort, etc... Here's how I would put this, I would give the Tarantula a slight edge, here is where I'm confused, I usually prefer asymmetrical for aiming (which Tarantula is not). So it would point to Tarantula feeling better to me, but the difference is so little that despite that, I wonder if it's just that somehow the ergonomics of the Tarantula happened to fit me a bit better? I would have to do three sessions of an hour each of each controller, which I'll probably end up doing over time but I'm cutting it short right now, very busy with that TH-cam journey. Sorry that I can't be of more help.
@@GameTechTalk Oh that's an interesting answer, although I didn't see anything about 2000 Hz. Well guess what, i couldn't help myself and bought a cyclone 2 on Aliexpress, I hope it arrives without any problems.
@@stevensv4864 there is not so much data about the cyclone 2 but in Gamepadla website it's showing impressive latency results , specially for the sticks , the potentiometer tech theoratically it is just a closed loop so in terms of latency it should be the fastest but it has noise and has less accuracy, the hall effect improve the accuracy and inreduce some input lag and should have non linear reading on the position , the TMR has less latency and improve accuracy more than the hall effect . that is why i think higher polling rate should mean even more with higher accuracy if we use for example 12 bit instead of 8 or 9 bit .
Hey Klef young lad. When this tech first released in the 90's, we just called it "alps" as in "Swiss alps" . We never called it "A.L.P.S.". I've "alps installed on my OneXplayer and I've no issues but I do have spare ALPS just in case of drift. Three years, no drift. Have a great weekend kid.
Hey Hunter! Funny enough, I remember referring to them as alps as well and I always thought it was a Japanese company. With that said, maybe it is, don't know why I thought that? It's been a minute, I hope the school year is going great and that you have awesome students to pair with the awesome teacher that I am sure you are! Cheers bud. (Kid? Dang, I didn't get the "lad" this time)
@@cryptout It is a japanese brand right?? Why do I think they are? I had ZERO clue they were in music, but my father was a musician, that might be why I feel like I've always been familiar with them. I just never knew them outside of gaming stuff. I should probably just go Google them at this point!
Not going back to Alp sticks anymore when buying 3rd party controllers. Already have 5 controllers that have drifting issue. The controllers looks great, but still expensive for me. Great review though.
Thanks Choco! Someone pointed out in the comment, might be a ALPS + gyro combo related thing. I wasn't familiar with this issue but if that is persistent, BIGBIG WON might not be at fault. With that said, I also had weird things with the stick that I hadn't encountered before now which surprised me.
Just to confirm, you can assign keyboard keys in the iOS/Android apps as well as in the PC software? I ask because I run Linux on my gaming laptop and this kind of Windows config application often either doesn't work or won't recognize a connected controller when run through WINE/Proton/etc. and other mobile apps (Gamesir) don't do key assignment or gyro. Returning my Tarantula Pro for that reason (Gamesir Connect crashes a moment after the window displays--dot-Net stuff is always hit and miss). And thanks for mentioning it needing the software running, which also is a no-go in Linux.
Wonderful, almost too good to be true! Can't wait for it to arrive. Thanks for for being the most informed reviewer of these things--others don't even mention gyro except maybe to say they never play with it, or spend five seconds showing gyro working in a game and that's it.
Great review my man! Did you try reverting the software on the alps version of the controller to see if it removed the issues you had? Also now that you had stick time with the tmr version how would you compare to the tarantula pro?
Post firmware update, I’d say they are on-par. The rest I would attribute to comfort and ergonomics, which is subjective. What puts this one past the edge is definitely the gyro, BIGBIG WON is a cut above the rest on that. As for the ALPS, I show not a 50th of how much I tried. I tried inverting, tried changing yaw vs roll. Tried adjusting my vertical to horizontal multiplier ratio, tried recalibrating and even re-applying firmware. I was going to put it down and retry tomorrow but when I picked up the TMR and immediately did better, I knew it couldn’t be luck. That said, ohhhh it feels gooooooddd! Honestly, playing gyro on BIGBIG WON’s controllers is very satisfying.
@@GameTechTalk so you say the blitz 2, tarantula pro, and the phantom are all on par? If you had only one to choose focusing on fps what would you choose? Dang that's unfortunate and weird it started acting like that. Is there a way to factory reset? Yeah the blitz 2 tmr has been making me feel so nice in Fragpunk and Xdefiant! Such a good controller! Ima start testing the Gyro
@@xXTheUknownClassXx If I would force myself to go gyro everytime, Blitz2 has that “uncharted territories” quality but the Tarantula is hard to beat with how versatile that it can be shaped to be. I was kind of bummed out, Gamer’s Heaven trashed it a lot, especially in his second video where he basically insulted anyone considering the Tarantula for claw. Maybe I am developing a bias for the Tarantula but to me, it’s the type of controller that pushes the status quo for the controller market. It’s that one product that can’t even be a trendsetter cause most brands won’t be able to compete with its complexity. Phantom is the ultimate PS5 controller for sure and Dualsense is a must have in the arsenal. Whenever Sony’s haptics and adaptive triggers come into play, it’s not debatable so to me, Phantom is probably the controller I wouldn’t want to part with for that reason.
@@GameTechTalk I see I see. I’m getting the tarantula pro next week so hopefully I can adjust to the symmetrical layout. Yeah I saw that too. He can be a little inaccurate sometimes (and a bit of a hot head). I just look at his reviews for a general overview of the controllers but I take what he says with a grain of salt. He is entitled to his opinions of course but more so than not I disagree with his opinions I found out. He is entertaining tho. I’m waiting to get the phantom. It would be my first dualsense controller since I haven’t played on a ps5. I’ll probably wait till end of Nov/Dec to get it since I’m getting the tarantula pro and 8bitdo ultimate 2c wukong edition next weekend. Also will you be trying the new apex 4 wukong edition out since they upgraded the polling rate, faceplate, dpad, grip, etc? I need a reliable source lol. Right now you, vk’s channel, and phototechy are my top controller channels, as well as some lesser known ones like old man rob!
@@xXTheUknownClassXx I came so close to ordering the Apex 4 Wukong that I had to skim through my credit card statement with a hairpin, I was convinced I had preordered one. As much as I love the Apex 4, I am glad I didn’t order it. 2000hz Polling rate is nice, but it is also diminishing return, just like 480hz monitor versus 240hz is not as impactful versus 240hz and 120hz and so on and so forth. Everytime we go up a class, the lesser the benefit. My two main incentives for Apex4 Wukong would’ve been the aesthetic but my main one would’ve been that dpad…. paying 200USD for a dpad is something I can’t reasonably be ok with ahahahah! It sure looks good though! Had it came with TMR and 12-bit sticks? Ok. But shockingly enough, the Blitz2 has vast advantages over it, yeah I can’t convince the enthusiast in me that it is worth picking up.
@@GameTechTalk no worries! Was just curious if I was missing it in the app. Hopefully they can add this feature in the future. Anyways, great video and thanks for the reply!
Be honest how inconvenient are the extra bumpers as opposed to 2 more paddles? lol. Considering getting this over another elite for the wife. Also can you bind the extra big big won inputs to keyboard keys? Like the profile button etc.
Hmmm I wouldn’t say they are inconvenient, some people might find them a bit far from the triggers. I like ‘em by design, but I think the controller that did them best is the Binbok Ultra, funny enough. I would’ve preferred 4 paddles but not even to the point that I felt the need to address it… Come to think of it, I probably should have?
Tough. If money is no objection, Manba One V2, it's the better controller. But if you still want a great bang for your buck solution, the K10 remains quite viable!
I love GameSir but they have some work cut out for them in the gyro department if they want to catch up to BIGBIG WON. In a nutshell, it's night and day. BIGBIG WON has, from all I tested so far, the best gyro implementation I've seen on a 3rd party controller to date.
If you're hoping to put a clip on top to snap your phone in it, the EasySMX X10, the Apex 4 or Vader 4 might be some of the better options. Please keep in mind you may have to buy that phone mount separately (it's inexpensive, like 5 bucks).
I don’t think there is a limit really, or if there is, I haven’t tried reaching it but you can export them to a file with the app so its about as good as limitless as far as I am concerned. Thanks bruh!
@@4gottenWarriors Just yes. Even without the 1000Hz polling rate, the software of BIGBIG WON is a clear cut above. Their gyro feels the smoothest I’ve ever seen on a controller. Like I am pretty sure I said in my Rainbow 2 Pro review, the closest to how good gyro is, is on VR controllers. Completely different product class, but that also speaks to how good BIGBIG WON has it locked down.
@@4gottenWarriors GameSir, having been an Xbox licensed controller champs clearly have just started dabbling into gyro, at least I think. It’s nice that the X3 Pro and Tarantula Pro have the ability to redirect gyro data but honestly, I think of these controllers rather as getting native gyro readings for steam input, when doing so, the performance is decent. Their software just isn’t up to snuff yet for gyro and I also find I need to recalibrate a little too often for my taste. It’s night and day with BIGBIG WON.
That definitely was due to a glitch in the firmware and I updated right before filming, I was not expecting those results if being honest. It's been corrected since but the numbers are still very very tight between the two.
I definitely would but it's a very large product space. Do you have any specifics that you would be looking for? Extra paddles? Must have HD rumble? If you can give me some to go off of because nearly every 3rd party controller of the last two years support Nintendo Switch, it's extremely common.
Do you know any other options that have gyro converted to sticks? I want a controller that I can use to racing games, this once looks nice, and I know flydigi can do that too, but do you know any other controller that can do the same?
Vader 4 Pro and Apex 4 are probably going to be your best bet. You also have software on PC that can do that for you on any controller with gyro support, such as Handheld Companion.
Bro, i ordered memo s3 from bang good and I m almost sure, they won't refund or replace! And left hall effect stick is not working properly ( only left/right movement, up/down is dead) Can you teach us how to replace the stick , please bro Also thanks & I love you
Love you too my dude! I haven't fully opened a Memo S3 to check it out but usually, these fuller sticks require a smidge of soldering as it's oftentime soldered onto the board. Quite frankly, I doubt I'll have time to make a video on that if being honest, I am swamped with content that needs to be made but I'll jot it down just in case I have an unexpected opportunity. Odds are the sticks are properly K-Silver hall-effect ones but I wouldn't know for sure. Sorry to hear about banggood not honoring some type of warranty. Doesn't inspire to shop there for sure. Cheers!
It grew on me if being honest. Looks very toy-lie, very gundam-like. At first I wasn't too sure but catching glimpses off of the shelf, I really dig it after all!
That's a tough call. I like to expend my horizons when it comes to gaming and when doing so, I like to have the best of said new horizon. With that in mind, Blitz2 would have my vote for now. It might change in a week though! 😅
Oh wow, how did I even miss that! That happens when the editing software was missing a plugging at the time of exporting the file. That's probably the animation that is usually at the bottom right corner of my face with "Your Host". Dang, I can't edit that portion out as it is the disclaimer... Sorry, I should've caught that and re-exported without the issue... My apologies
Sorry for the delay, no that option is not on the app. It's probably still feasible but you would have to rely on other solutions. I believe Steam Input can allow you to do that.
More "traditional" I'd say. As in, you've claw-ed on a similar product, you know what to expect. The Tarantula Pro is definitely claw-able but it's also what I would consider to be "a new breed" of controller. So there is going to be some learning curve. That said, I think Tarantula has a greater potential, just it'll take the people to figure it out. I've been playing more with the Claw just because I'm so intrigued with it still but make no mistakes, the Blitz2 is a beast!
@@Predi1105 I'd give a slight edge to the ALPS but at this point, the lines are so blurred that I would still recommend TMR because there are net advantages now and down the road. Also, it's potentially upgradeable over time, whereas ALPS wouldn't be. Talking specifically about the tech behind the sticks, not the controller itself.
is it really so much to ask for 4 rebindable back buttons, trigger stops for full pull or clicky triggers, TMR sticks so drift doesn't happen in my lifetime and its more responsive, mouse like ABXY, D-pad, RB, and LB and 6 axis motion control so i can be more accurate when sniping in say cod or battlefield it has to happen man i really don't care about half the extra stuff they put on these controllers nowadays like gulikits button recorder or turbo i grew up on Mario party i don't need no dang turbo
You know, when I see comments like yours, and I totally get where you're coming from, I really wish there was a company out there that offered a "a la carte" service. But it probably would be extremely expensive to maintain, with that said, maybe some customers will be interested in that. The rebuilds of Dualsense controllers kind of employ that concept but they don't have access to the latest tech from China very often. Plus, they can't remove Sony's stamp on the boards.
Having a 3rd party adapter that can bring the controller into Xbox Series compatibility. Sadly, I do not own any of those to tell you precisely what could work, what couldn't.
I usually use Gamepadla but I ran into some abnormalities so I just put it on screen from the results of another benchmarking tool I used. With that said, "ms input lag"? I'm curious as I have no idea what you are referring to, I know "cmd", I know how to navigate a "dos-like" environment but was never aware of such a command. This measure's a device input lag in a command prompt?
Alps potentiometer sticks are like a wired connection because there is a physical contact between metal thingy and carbon to track your stick movement. HE/TMR sticks are more like a wifi/wireless connection because they use magnetic wave. So potentiometer sticks will always be more accurate and consistent then HE/TMR sticks.
Someone pointed out a reason why that might be. I also think increasing the deadzone past default value might actually help mitigate the problem but I haven't tested yet. The person that made this greatly appreciated comment is @pawes7418 , maybe they know more? Let's hope this can be mitigated, and hopefully firmware fixed. And for the record, the ALPS sticks work fine most times but I've definitely experienced it in small spurs which causes me to believe there is something weird happening, might just be my controller too. Last but not least, when the sticks are perfectly fine, I still think the Blitz2 ALPS to have a super slight edge, but not enough to warrant having to deal the concerns for reliability. :/
@@GameTechTalk one last questions. Are the triggers short for faster actuation, closer than the vader 4 pro or xbox. I tried the asura pro 2 nearlink and the triggers are not sensitive at all, i have to pull the trigger all the way down for actuation.
@@CookieMonster-we1in The Vader 4 Pro with hair trigger on is shorter than the Blitz 2 triggers, I'd say by about half vs the Blitz 2, which is still not long considering. But that goes to show just how short the Vader 4 Pros are with physical hair trigger being on.
Si la version ALPS tiene un comportamiento extraño prueba a cambiar a un usb 2.0 y a desconectar y volver a conectar el mando, también puedes desactivar steam imput en el juego donde lo vayas a usar ya que puede dar problemas. Por ultimo revisa la configuracion en la aplicacion de big big won tanta en el movil como en el pc no vaya a ser que hayas puesto la zona muerta mas alta o algo raro.
These are all great suggestions, I will pin it in case people can find resolve with your recommendations, thank you greatly. Please also look for @pawes7418 comment for more great suggestions for ALPS gyro!
(Translated: "If the ALPS version has strange behavior, try changing to USB 2.0 and disconnecting and reconnecting the controller. You can also disable steam input in the game where you are going to use it as it can cause problems. Finally, check the settings in the big big won application on both the mobile and the PC in case you have set the dead zone higher or something strange."
oye porq hablas español?
otra cosa has probado la version tmr?
@@stevensv4864porque soy de españa y no se hablar ingles, no he probado la versión TMR pero si quieres un mando para juegos competitivos estoy seguro que ALPS es mejor que TMR y si quieres un mando que no sea para competir TMR es mejor ya que los sticks te duraran mas tiempo y el consumo también es menor.
@@asotaventoasotavento2789 pues creo q no deberías opinar con esa seguridad sin antes haber probado los TMR. Jamás pienso comprar un alps para q desarrolle drift, yo tengo un g7 se y va joya aún después de más de un año de uso pero se supone q los TMR son una mejora
Si los TMR superararan a los ALPS en todas las facetas porque seguirías comerciando los ALPS?
Finally.! Been waiting for an english review for this controller. Thanks
Happy to serve the community with content! Cheers :)
Man, it gets so confusing these days with TMR vs ALPS vs HALL, thanks for sharing, reviewing and testing for us!! Learned a lot
Ahh, I always loved controllers, it's such a privilege to talk about them and have people want to hear what I have to say. Thanks a lot!
Keep in mind that this new tech for controller is far better than the regular ones
Watched the other video, ordered the TMR, then started watching this, paniced and was about to cancel it, got to the end of the video and glad I wasn't hasty! Appreciate your review, defo one of the reasons I purchased one.
I had a similar rollercoaster after I uploaded the hands-on video, I took the TMR and I had this: "Oh no!" moment. I decided to upgrade the fw only before I was ready to shoot and that made the surprised result I wasn't expecting to have. This couldn't have been a more sudden realization for me. Ultimately, things worked out well and I'm glad I didn't give a bad recommendation after all but it came very close.
Lesson learned though, lesson learned! Thanks for sharing! :)
@@ThorTheTitan Vader 4 is a safe choice
@@humanbass Thanks mate, I do have a vader 4 pro, which I absolutely love. I was having issues with it, but it turns out it was the game so I didn't need to buy another new controller :(
so i was almost set on picking up the tarantula pro after your review. I have used Rainbow 2 SE from bigbig won for about 7 months now pretty much daily, and sticks did develop about 1.5 percent of drift (the right one, with left pretty much unchanged), BUT those potentiometer sticks (at least for me) did feel much more responsive than hall effects of v3p and t4k. Also i did really like T4K, but A button did develop double click in relative short time (about a month), but the bigger problem for me was the fact that t4k used 2pin mouse switches, which are uncommon, while blitz 2 im pretty sure just uses standart 3pin ones. I loved my time with Rainbow 2 SE, but i do kinda miss having mechanical face buttons, and REALLY miss mouse click triggers from vader. This looks like a great controller for me
That's where my frustration came from. I would tend to say that TMR felt on-par to ALPS but it's like a baton was nudge into my wheel just as I was about to clock in the time to confirm that information. With that said, if they are not the same, they are much much MUCH closer than Hall-effect and ALPS ever was, if that's anything to go by. If you ever laid hands on the Kaleid for Xbox, or G7 HE both from GameSir? The face buttons from the Blitz2 feel identical.
@@GameTechTalk yeah T4k is T4 Kaleid from gamesir, with a crystal seethrough shell, it released prior to Xbox branded one. Finally pulled a plug on blitz 2 tho.
7:28 That is the key with the TMR sticks you have to tweek the curve. Once that is done, the sticks are phenomenally quick and precise. Did that for my tarantula pro.
I did the same with my Apex 4, even though it does not have TMR sticks, they do have 10 bit resolution, even the vader 4 pro has 12 bit resolution, after the tweeking it, it is now phenomenal as well.
You know your stuff my guy! Yeah TMR is really the real deal. It's so close to ALPS that, at least for me, it's enough to fully justify the jump.
@GameTechTalk yea on my Gamesir G7 se you have a limited curve adjustment.
But when I saw the Tarantula Pro had a curve option with 4 sliding points on it, the Apex 4 only had 2 sliding points, it was on, and into the testing lab, I went lol 😆
@@tcrviper Do you mind explaining how to change the curve settings?
How to tweek it right?
@ yeah
thx for the review, I asked you once before to review this controller because there was basically zero reviews , and now i am totally sold and ordered the TMR version , i know the triggers aren't analog but that's why i have other controllers , and most games actually do not take advantege of the analog triggers . i have the EasySMX x20 and the Flydigi Vader 4 pro and they are really good i like them a lot .
the Gyro assisted aiming that is new for me , i always thought those are just gemmick ! but seeing you break your score that , that is some revolotionary tech , i think the high polling rate might be a part of it too . i kow the gyro has only 1000Hz but the total bandwidth rated to 2000Hz witch is double of the best before this tech.
I was exited to see what the new tech can do , i was expecting it to see some improvement , since on paper it does have more , but i didn't expect it to translate to that much better performance on the score tests , i know you said that you have a perfect setup now and we shouldn't compare this to the old score , but you kinda did it yourself and compared your score and considered it a record for you lol.
For the non-gyro, I was definitely in an optimal setup, but with added gyro, I hardly did any tests on video (but many off-screen) and those were made with optimal setup as well. That new record definitely was a good chunk beyond anything prior, approximately 8k more to put things in perspective.
I always tried gyro on and off ever since Uncharted 2 I think? It had gyro aiming and I was surprised then just how viable that it could be but the issue has been implementing the tech, it's not easy to find that perfect balance of responsiveness and no one does it as good as BIGBIG WON except VR which has gyro on a whole other level too.
@@GameTechTalk I did try playing with gyro in the past on the PS4 or 3 i don't remember but it's my first time on your video to see it beat the normal aiming with sticks , and if i am not wrong, you were aiming with the sicks and correcting with the gyro to aim faster. In some video if am not wrong it can be set on some controllers to get the gyro to work only when pressing the left trigger and get it to work in any game .
About the ALPS vs TMR , if we think about it, the potential meter should have always the lowest latency because it's just a closed loop on variable resistance , in terms of accuracy the TMR is advertised to have times better accuracy.
There's a newly added data on Gamepadla for both of these bigbigwon controllers and the ALPS model seems extremely optimized with 2.42 ms on the stick input. The TMR version has only the button latency results with 4.81 on xinput wired , and 1250 stick positions. Now i know the data might not be super accurate but it's what we have.
The new Gamesir cyclone 2 has TMR and is showing impressive results.
@@MonderMatrix With my 38k score, I would say 90% of my aiming was achieved with gyro and little nudges with the sticks. You are correct about being able to have gyro be on exclusively when holding a button, that's a feature one can activate. GameSir and TMR has been my best experience yet, with that said, I think 2.4ms latency to not be enough to warrant a loss in performance but rather a slight adjustment if someone spent a thousand hours on 2.42, and then was to move to 4.81.
I can't blame wanting the better outcome though, I will have to retest the ALPS model in due time!
@@GameTechTalk I have reading te comments on this video , there is a lots of interesting stuf and for sure it wouuld be nice to see a follow up video but in my opinion it should afte their next firmware update so it would make more sence to compare without any bugs. and the bigbigwon seem to have a decent latency compared to other companies, flydigi for example have high latency on the sticks but they say they addressed that in an update. the stick resolution on the Gamepadla is also comfusing.
@@MonderMatrix I'm definitely going to be paying more and more attention to BIGBIG WON, they seem to have a very unique approach in their design focus, which I can appreciate!
The problem with Gyro on ALPS version is that ALPS itself don't have perfect 0 spot , there's always some minor values to left or right side of the sticks and that causes inconsistent gyro movement to one of the side. With hall/tmr sticks you don't have that problem. And this is the MAJOR issues with gyro to joystick setup with alps based controllers (yes YOU Flydigi)
You piqued my curiosity, thank you very much for that explanation, I was not familiar with this issue. Do you happen to know if increasing the deadzone on the sticks somewhat mitigate that issue? I got to run some tests! Thanks a lot!!
@@GameTechTalk You need to increase deadzone and lower to minimum response curve for right stick for about 10% movement , then you can achieve gyro without stick drift
@@pawes7418 Thanks for your inputs, they have been extremely valuable and I am sure more people will be able to use it as well!
Still doesn’t explain why the ALPS regular mode was great at first but started feeling weird after the 1st test and that’s without gyro activated.
@@TylerJovan It was a firmware update that caused the issue, they released an update shortly after my video, I have tested since and while I haven't gone into a whole set of rounds in Aimlabs, I can at least attest to the gyro juking left no longer does it for me.
This review update is really good. Im happy they fixed the tmr stick issue.
Right now im stuck between this tmr controller and the aim modded dualsense controller. My only concern with the aim controller is the hall effect sticks are technically going to start to be considered outdated in the aim controller considering tmr is available. And this 80 dollar controller is obviously cheaper than an aim controller but im such a fan of the ps5 controller layout that i still might buy an aim controller.
If you check on my channel, there is a controller that is also symmetrical with TMR sticks, that might work for you! There are a lot of great options, it's a great time to be on the market for controllers, between the Blitz2, the Tarantula, the Vader 4 Pro, and many many more options, it's almost a tough call ahahaah!
hey my man, I know I sound like a broken record, always asking the same thing.
But I've seen both the bibig tmr and tarantula tmr teardown, I've seen that they have joysticks from different brands and now I'm wondering which of the two is the best.
Besides, the bibig has 2000hz, does that really make much of a difference?
It's extremely hard to tell because the difference falls within what I would consider as margin of error, or too impacted by external variables such as shape, comfort, etc... Here's how I would put this, I would give the Tarantula a slight edge, here is where I'm confused, I usually prefer asymmetrical for aiming (which Tarantula is not). So it would point to Tarantula feeling better to me, but the difference is so little that despite that, I wonder if it's just that somehow the ergonomics of the Tarantula happened to fit me a bit better? I would have to do three sessions of an hour each of each controller, which I'll probably end up doing over time but I'm cutting it short right now, very busy with that TH-cam journey.
Sorry that I can't be of more help.
@@GameTechTalk Oh that's an interesting answer, although I didn't see anything about 2000 Hz.
Well guess what, i couldn't help myself and bought a cyclone 2 on Aliexpress, I hope it arrives without any problems.
@@stevensv4864 there is not so much data about the cyclone 2 but in Gamepadla website it's showing impressive latency results , specially for the sticks , the potentiometer tech theoratically it is just a closed loop so in terms of latency it should be the fastest but it has noise and has less accuracy, the hall effect improve the accuracy and inreduce some input lag and should have non linear reading on the position , the TMR has less latency and improve accuracy more than the hall effect . that is why i think higher polling rate should mean even more with higher accuracy if we use for example 12 bit instead of 8 or 9 bit .
Hey Klef young lad. When this tech first released in the 90's, we just called it "alps" as in "Swiss alps" . We never called it "A.L.P.S.". I've "alps installed on my OneXplayer and I've no issues but I do have spare ALPS just in case of drift. Three years, no drift. Have a great weekend kid.
Hey Hunter! Funny enough, I remember referring to them as alps as well and I always thought it was a Japanese company. With that said, maybe it is, don't know why I thought that? It's been a minute, I hope the school year is going great and that you have awesome students to pair with the awesome teacher that I am sure you are! Cheers bud. (Kid? Dang, I didn't get the "lad" this time)
@@GameTechTalk It’s a manufacturer that specializes in potentiometers, both rotary and faders. Very well known in the music industry.
@@cryptout It is a japanese brand right?? Why do I think they are? I had ZERO clue they were in music, but my father was a musician, that might be why I feel like I've always been familiar with them. I just never knew them outside of gaming stuff. I should probably just go Google them at this point!
Thanks for the update on this controller
With pleasure friend, thanks for watching! :)
Not going back to Alp sticks anymore when buying 3rd party controllers. Already have 5 controllers that have drifting issue. The controllers looks great, but still expensive for me. Great review though.
Thanks Choco! Someone pointed out in the comment, might be a ALPS + gyro combo related thing. I wasn't familiar with this issue but if that is persistent, BIGBIG WON might not be at fault. With that said, I also had weird things with the stick that I hadn't encountered before now which surprised me.
Thanks for answering my gyro questions. Definitely will get the version
With pleasure, any questions I can help answer, let me know and I'll do my best!
Just to confirm, you can assign keyboard keys in the iOS/Android apps as well as in the PC software? I ask because I run Linux on my gaming laptop and this kind of Windows config application often either doesn't work or won't recognize a connected controller when run through WINE/Proton/etc. and other mobile apps (Gamesir) don't do key assignment or gyro.
Returning my Tarantula Pro for that reason (Gamesir Connect crashes a moment after the window displays--dot-Net stuff is always hit and miss). And thanks for mentioning it needing the software running, which also is a no-go in Linux.
You can map keyboard keys using the mobile app, pretty sick to be honest! (My pleasure, happy to help!)
Wonderful, almost too good to be true! Can't wait for it to arrive. Thanks for for being the most informed reviewer of these things--others don't even mention gyro except maybe to say they never play with it, or spend five seconds showing gyro working in a game and that's it.
Great review my man! Did you try reverting the software on the alps version of the controller to see if it removed the issues you had? Also now that you had stick time with the tmr version how would you compare to the tarantula pro?
Post firmware update, I’d say they are on-par. The rest I would attribute to comfort and ergonomics, which is subjective. What puts this one past the edge is definitely the gyro, BIGBIG WON is a cut above the rest on that.
As for the ALPS, I show not a 50th of how much I tried. I tried inverting, tried changing yaw vs roll. Tried adjusting my vertical to horizontal multiplier ratio, tried recalibrating and even re-applying firmware.
I was going to put it down and retry tomorrow but when I picked up the TMR and immediately did better, I knew it couldn’t be luck. That said, ohhhh it feels gooooooddd! Honestly, playing gyro on BIGBIG WON’s controllers is very satisfying.
@@GameTechTalk so you say the blitz 2, tarantula pro, and the phantom are all on par? If you had only one to choose focusing on fps what would you choose?
Dang that's unfortunate and weird it started acting like that. Is there a way to factory reset?
Yeah the blitz 2 tmr has been making me feel so nice in Fragpunk and Xdefiant! Such a good controller! Ima start testing the Gyro
@@xXTheUknownClassXx If I would force myself to go gyro everytime, Blitz2 has that “uncharted territories” quality but the Tarantula is hard to beat with how versatile that it can be shaped to be.
I was kind of bummed out, Gamer’s Heaven trashed it a lot, especially in his second video where he basically insulted anyone considering the Tarantula for claw. Maybe I am developing a bias for the Tarantula but to me, it’s the type of controller that pushes the status quo for the controller market. It’s that one product that can’t even be a trendsetter cause most brands won’t be able to compete with its complexity.
Phantom is the ultimate PS5 controller for sure and Dualsense is a must have in the arsenal. Whenever Sony’s haptics and adaptive triggers come into play, it’s not debatable so to me, Phantom is probably the controller I wouldn’t want to part with for that reason.
@@GameTechTalk I see I see. I’m getting the tarantula pro next week so hopefully I can adjust to the symmetrical layout.
Yeah I saw that too. He can be a little inaccurate sometimes (and a bit of a hot head). I just look at his reviews for a general overview of the controllers but I take what he says with a grain of salt. He is entitled to his opinions of course but more so than not I disagree with his opinions I found out. He is entertaining tho.
I’m waiting to get the phantom. It would be my first dualsense controller since I haven’t played on a ps5. I’ll probably wait till end of Nov/Dec to get it since I’m getting the tarantula pro and 8bitdo ultimate 2c wukong edition next weekend.
Also will you be trying the new apex 4 wukong edition out since they upgraded the polling rate, faceplate, dpad, grip, etc? I need a reliable source lol. Right now you, vk’s channel, and phototechy are my top controller channels, as well as some lesser known ones like old man rob!
@@xXTheUknownClassXx I came so close to ordering the Apex 4 Wukong that I had to skim through my credit card statement with a hairpin, I was convinced I had preordered one.
As much as I love the Apex 4, I am glad I didn’t order it. 2000hz Polling rate is nice, but it is also diminishing return, just like 480hz monitor versus 240hz is not as impactful versus 240hz and 120hz and so on and so forth. Everytime we go up a class, the lesser the benefit. My two main incentives for Apex4 Wukong would’ve been the aesthetic but my main one would’ve been that dpad…. paying 200USD for a dpad is something I can’t reasonably be ok with ahahahah! It sure looks good though!
Had it came with TMR and 12-bit sticks? Ok. But shockingly enough, the Blitz2 has vast advantages over it, yeah I can’t convince the enthusiast in me that it is worth picking up.
Hello for FC 25 and Black ops 6 do you thin'k Blitz2 is better or cyclone 2 is better for computer only?
I don’t see any option to remap controller binds to mouse buttons? Only showing keyboard keys in the software
You are correct. If I said keyboard and mouse in my video, please accept my apology, I probably said as such as a reflex.
@@GameTechTalk no worries! Was just curious if I was missing it in the app. Hopefully they can add this feature in the future.
Anyways, great video and thanks for the reply!
Be honest how inconvenient are the extra bumpers as opposed to 2 more paddles? lol. Considering getting this over another elite for the wife. Also can you bind the extra big big won inputs to keyboard keys? Like the profile button etc.
Hmmm I wouldn’t say they are inconvenient, some people might find them a bit far from the triggers. I like ‘em by design, but I think the controller that did them best is the Binbok Ultra, funny enough.
I would’ve preferred 4 paddles but not even to the point that I felt the need to address it… Come to think of it, I probably should have?
It's not that hard to reach unlike Gamesir Tarantula. It would have been a winner if it has 4 back buttons
Hey love your videos, just wondering what would you recommend between the Aolion k10 and Manba 1
Tough. If money is no objection, Manba One V2, it's the better controller. But if you still want a great bang for your buck solution, the K10 remains quite viable!
How does the gyro on this thing compare to the Tarantula Pro's gyro?
I love GameSir but they have some work cut out for them in the gyro department if they want to catch up to BIGBIG WON. In a nutshell, it's night and day. BIGBIG WON has, from all I tested so far, the best gyro implementation I've seen on a 3rd party controller to date.
@@GameTechTalk Damn, that is a bit sad to read xD, thanks for the reply man!
Have you tried the DualSense Edge mode on Steam? I wanted to know if Steam can recognize all extra buttons if using it with this mode.
Actually I have many times and yes, the front buttons which are to change modes on PS5 can actually be used as unique buttons on Steam.
@@GameTechTalk wait, only the front buttons can be remapped? or can we remap the back buttons as well?
@@LauroAbreu Both, the two buttons in the front, and the two in the back
@@GameTechTalk thank you, that's really cool!
What hand controller do you recommend to fit the ROG PRO 8 with the case on it?
If you're hoping to put a clip on top to snap your phone in it, the EasySMX X10, the Apex 4 or Vader 4 might be some of the better options. Please keep in mind you may have to buy that phone mount separately (it's inexpensive, like 5 bucks).
@GameTechTalk thanks I'll check it out for sure
Awesome review brotha....how many profiles do they have to switch from
I don’t think there is a limit really, or if there is, I haven’t tried reaching it but you can export them to a file with the app so its about as good as limitless as far as I am concerned. Thanks bruh!
@@GameTechTalk what about gyro over the Vader 4 pro?
@@4gottenWarriors Just yes. Even without the 1000Hz polling rate, the software of BIGBIG WON is a clear cut above. Their gyro feels the smoothest I’ve ever seen on a controller. Like I am pretty sure I said in my Rainbow 2 Pro review, the closest to how good gyro is, is on VR controllers. Completely different product class, but that also speaks to how good BIGBIG WON has it locked down.
@@GameTechTalk Tarantula pro is super glitchy
@@4gottenWarriors GameSir, having been an Xbox licensed controller champs clearly have just started dabbling into gyro, at least I think. It’s nice that the X3 Pro and Tarantula Pro have the ability to redirect gyro data but honestly, I think of these controllers rather as getting native gyro readings for steam input, when doing so, the performance is decent. Their software just isn’t up to snuff yet for gyro and I also find I need to recalibrate a little too often for my taste.
It’s night and day with BIGBIG WON.
What step accuracy setting do you have it on? 32, 64 , 128 or 256v
Hmm the lower the better. So to have the full resolution of the sensor, you want to select 32.
@@GameTechTalk thank you kindly. 😊 by the way theres a new update for the controller. I downloaded it today
It’s interesting you were more accurate in AimLabs with TMR vs Alps.
That definitely was due to a glitch in the firmware and I updated right before filming, I was not expecting those results if being honest. It's been corrected since but the numbers are still very very tight between the two.
@ the fact that the TMR sticks are sticking with them is impressive
Sorry this is Off topic but I don’t know where to ask… Do you have a recommendation for a wireless switch controller? I’m on the market for one atm
I definitely would but it's a very large product space. Do you have any specifics that you would be looking for? Extra paddles? Must have HD rumble? If you can give me some to go off of because nearly every 3rd party controller of the last two years support Nintendo Switch, it's extremely common.
Hows the battery life on the TMR model?
You should get between 10 to 15 hours depending on how much features that are activated. Gyro, rumble, etc
Do you know any other options that have gyro converted to sticks? I want a controller that I can use to racing games, this once looks nice, and I know flydigi can do that too, but do you know any other controller that can do the same?
Vader 4 Pro and Apex 4 are probably going to be your best bet. You also have software on PC that can do that for you on any controller with gyro support, such as Handheld Companion.
@@GameTechTalk Oh thanks, i didn't know there was a program that can do that with any controller
Bro, i ordered memo s3 from bang good and I m almost sure, they won't refund or replace!
And left hall effect stick is not working properly ( only left/right movement, up/down is dead)
Can you teach us how to replace the stick , please bro
Also thanks
& I love you
Love you too my dude! I haven't fully opened a Memo S3 to check it out but usually, these fuller sticks require a smidge of soldering as it's oftentime soldered onto the board. Quite frankly, I doubt I'll have time to make a video on that if being honest, I am swamped with content that needs to be made but I'll jot it down just in case I have an unexpected opportunity. Odds are the sticks are properly K-Silver hall-effect ones but I wouldn't know for sure.
Sorry to hear about banggood not honoring some type of warranty. Doesn't inspire to shop there for sure. Cheers!
Man... I like the color scheme of the one with the ALPS sticks better than the color scheme they chose for the one with the TMR sticks.
It grew on me if being honest. Looks very toy-lie, very gundam-like. At first I wasn't too sure but catching glimpses off of the shelf, I really dig it after all!
You know.... now that you put it that way... I am not going to be able to not see it as Gundam 🤣
This, or vader 4 pro?
That's a tough call. I like to expend my horizons when it comes to gaming and when doing so, I like to have the best of said new horizon. With that in mind, Blitz2 would have my vote for now. It might change in a week though! 😅
What the hell was that huge red rectangle with the alert on the disclaimer at the beginning?
Oh wow, how did I even miss that! That happens when the editing software was missing a plugging at the time of exporting the file. That's probably the animation that is usually at the bottom right corner of my face with "Your Host". Dang, I can't edit that portion out as it is the disclaimer... Sorry, I should've caught that and re-exported without the issue... My apologies
Can the gyro emulate mouse on PC
Sorry for the delay, no that option is not on the app. It's probably still feasible but you would have to rely on other solutions. I believe Steam Input can allow you to do that.
Hey man hows this feel to claw compared to the Tarantula
And does the drift only happen in gyro? So if I turn gyro off the sticks work fine ?
More "traditional" I'd say. As in, you've claw-ed on a similar product, you know what to expect. The Tarantula Pro is definitely claw-able but it's also what I would consider to be "a new breed" of controller. So there is going to be some learning curve. That said, I think Tarantula has a greater potential, just it'll take the people to figure it out. I've been playing more with the Claw just because I'm so intrigued with it still but make no mistakes, the Blitz2 is a beast!
Apparently, the new update fixed the drift, I saw that they released some, I just haven't gotten around to testing them yet.
@@GameTechTalk huge man thanks for the update and info I think I'll probs try out the Alps it'll be my first Alps controller hahah
so did the ALPs version ever get fixed?
It did yeah. Blitz 2 is rapidly becoming one of my top controllers to be honest!
@@GameTechTalk So what version are better now? Tmr or alps? Thanks
@@Predi1105 I'd give a slight edge to the ALPS but at this point, the lines are so blurred that I would still recommend TMR because there are net advantages now and down the road. Also, it's potentially upgradeable over time, whereas ALPS wouldn't be. Talking specifically about the tech behind the sticks, not the controller itself.
is it really so much to ask for 4 rebindable back buttons, trigger stops for full pull or clicky triggers, TMR sticks so drift doesn't happen in my lifetime and its more responsive, mouse like ABXY, D-pad, RB, and LB and 6 axis motion control so i can be more accurate when sniping in say cod or battlefield it has to happen man i really don't care about half the extra stuff they put on these controllers nowadays like gulikits button recorder or turbo i grew up on Mario party i don't need no dang turbo
You know, when I see comments like yours, and I totally get where you're coming from, I really wish there was a company out there that offered a "a la carte" service. But it probably would be extremely expensive to maintain, with that said, maybe some customers will be interested in that. The rebuilds of Dualsense controllers kind of employ that concept but they don't have access to the latest tech from China very often. Plus, they can't remove Sony's stamp on the boards.
what needs to be done to make it work on xbox series x?
Having a 3rd party adapter that can bring the controller into Xbox Series compatibility. Sadly, I do not own any of those to tell you precisely what could work, what couldn't.
Takes 2 min to do open cmd and get the ms input lag put it in the videos bruh
I usually use Gamepadla but I ran into some abnormalities so I just put it on screen from the results of another benchmarking tool I used. With that said, "ms input lag"? I'm curious as I have no idea what you are referring to, I know "cmd", I know how to navigate a "dos-like" environment but was never aware of such a command. This measure's a device input lag in a command prompt?
if only they could magically make the triggers analogue with software update lol
That'd be awesome!
Alps potentiometer sticks are like a wired connection because there is a physical contact between metal thingy and carbon to track your stick movement. HE/TMR sticks are more like a wifi/wireless connection because they use magnetic wave. So potentiometer sticks will always be more accurate and consistent then HE/TMR sticks.
Not necessarily, accuracy is not inherently a hall/tmr thing. They still get affected by electrical noise and interference
HEY Bigbig won FIX THE ALPS VERSION PLEASE.
I feel like ive been duped. I ordered the alps version 😢
Someone pointed out a reason why that might be. I also think increasing the deadzone past default value might actually help mitigate the problem but I haven't tested yet. The person that made this greatly appreciated comment is @pawes7418 , maybe they know more? Let's hope this can be mitigated, and hopefully firmware fixed.
And for the record, the ALPS sticks work fine most times but I've definitely experienced it in small spurs which causes me to believe there is something weird happening, might just be my controller too. Last but not least, when the sticks are perfectly fine, I still think the Blitz2 ALPS to have a super slight edge, but not enough to warrant having to deal the concerns for reliability. :/
@@GameTechTalk one last questions. Are the triggers short for faster actuation, closer than the vader 4 pro or xbox. I tried the asura pro 2 nearlink and the triggers are not sensitive at all, i have to pull the trigger all the way down for actuation.
@@CookieMonster-we1in The Vader 4 Pro with hair trigger on is shorter than the Blitz 2 triggers, I'd say by about half vs the Blitz 2, which is still not long considering. But that goes to show just how short the Vader 4 Pros are with physical hair trigger being on.
@@GameTechTalk i have the vader 4 pro. I was speaking about without the physical hairpin triggers on.