I work out at an LA Fitness religiously and the other day they played Woman’s World on the gym speakers. Well, they played fifteen seconds of it and then brutally skipped to the next track. I’ve thought about that every day since then.
I think it's because a lot of them has more layers to their brand/music. For example, after Taylor made Lover which has some of the worst singles I've ever heard, she made folklore and evermore which reminds people of why they love her, just something down to earth and not heavily produced. It's not even only that, a lot of pop stars are known for something outside of music like their skincare or fashion. I think Katy just has pop under her belt and when it fails, she doesn't have any backup.
@@felitw10Beyoncé makes good pop, Gaga consistently tries new things. I don’t really listen to Taylor swift so I can’t say but the number of fans she has says a lot. Katy perry isn’t making good pop, she doesn’t try new things, and I don’t think she has that many fans left.
@@felitw10 she was a judge on American idol and I remember her being a meme just by existing quite a few times. So she has other things. But I see her more as a mom at the moment and she's not using it to make bank, who knows why. Thankfully, she has longevity as a singer, she's genuinely talented. She just needs to really rethink what she puts out. If she wants to milf money like Fergie, i wouldn't hold it against her cuz it would atleast be more genuine than this 😅 Tbh, i just need a good heartbreak anthem at the moment. Katy, please, if you're reading this.
I feel like the age complaints aren't valid. The top female musicians of the modern age are all the same age and don't face the same issues. Taylor Swift is 34. Beyonce is 42. Lizzo is 36. Miley Cyrus and Ariana Grande are both 31. Katy Perry is only 39. That's not old. Dolly Parton and Cher still put out music and are successful and they are nearing 80. This is not an age issue. It's a Katy Perry issue.
They may not share the same issue, but they do share the same fear. Which is probably why Rihanna gave up on the whole concept of pop stardom for eg. It always is ageism with women, people just dont want to say it. Especially after a woman gives birth, people just dont want her anymore anywhere but in the kitchen
Exactly. I can understand the outrage at working with Dr. Luke... but that's it. Literally eeeeverything else is selective amnesia, the heavy misuse of the "male gaze satire", the lazy scraping the bottom of the barrel feminism, the most generic "H&M shopping" rhythm mixing... Guys. It's Katy Perry. She's literally always been this way, have some of y'all been sleeping under a rock since 2014 too? hahaha
@@mollusckscramp4124 Even earlier than 2014, she's always been generic. I admit I was briefly a fan during her initial come up in like 08, then Lady Gaga happened and I realized she was just paltry in comparison and I never went back. She's the living definition of 2008 hot and all the toxicity that comes with it
Kylie Minogue is almost an entire Olivia Rodrigo older than Katy Perry and she's still making popular records and had a global hit just last year. It's not Perry's age, it's her work.
It’s funny because, “Girls Just Want to Have Fun” is everything Katy’s song wasn’t. Cyndi gets straight to the point in her lyrics and the video actually is fun
@lovelywallflower , IIRC it was a man essentially singing about how frivolous women are, she definitely overall elevated the song from just being an insult to women to actually being from a woman's perspective
I want to start by saying I used to be a huge Katy Perry fan. like obsessed levels of fandom. I once went to 5 concerts in 5 different cities in one week in my late teens (I'm 31 now, so like 13-14 years ago). Katy Perry sang for my 18th birthday on stage and I once had dinner with her. That's how big of a fan I was. I "recently" met her, when I went to the witness album release / pre-listening party. And it didn't even feel like she was the same person anymore. Fame and Money 100 percent went to her head. She used to be funny and kind and it felt like she actually cared about her fans. And now she just feels like this estranged person with a god complex. Like almost britney spears breakdown levels of gone. I appreciate your video, because I have not been keeping up with KP news ever since the last time I met her. It's sad to see how the mighty have fallen.
I wonder if her American Idol judging has effected her personality in the way you describe her changed behavior. Because I can imagine being "a judge" on a major TV program- where humbled people are begging for approval from her to become pop stars, could give anyone a superiority complex.
@@ajqueen31 idk if i would say 7 1/2 years ago is recent lmaoo 💀 was that also after she stayed up for 3 days doing the witness world wide live stream?
She's not too old to be making pop music, she's too old to not have learned from her mistakes by now. Like many other celebrities, she got stuck in the time that she got super famous, and hasn't learned to evolve or push herself to try new things or pay attention to the changes taking place around her since
I don't even think it's just that reason for her insane flop considering it's the same case for Taylor Swift, yet Taylor is still super popular. Katy's failure is truly embarrassing and deserved honestly.
Is she too old to not lead impressionable young women into the orbit of a man I assumed was in jail but forgot Hollywood loves predators. Like does she for one second have the ability to think one step beyond herself and understand how her fans may fall victim to the man where she may be able to not due to who she is???
I disagree with D’Angelo when he said that Katy can’t make purposive pop she made Roar and Wide Awake which both had good messages be brave, and Wide Awake is about letting go of trauma that I still listen to a lot
I love so much that Kesha is having a second but more authentic and free round of her classic, carefree persona Honestly? I think she'd absolutely slay a hyperpop collaboration. Idk, get her in the studio with 100 gecs or Charli xcx or Dorian Electra
Absolutely. Still, the thing we need to consider is that Katy Perry likely doesn’t feel she has a choice. Dr. Luke and the rest of his industry run like an organized crime syndicate. There’s a massive blackmail operation in play and a great deal of underhanded manipulation and outright corruption to control artists and gain control of their output on the front end, and the rights to their catalogue and distribution on the backend. You don’t have to be a conspiracist to see the decades of open evidence. As Hunter S. Thompson once wrote, “The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.”
Kinda my feel tbh. I got an early dose of disappointment as a young lesbian when Katy Perry's I Kissed a Girl music video did not, in fact, contain any kissing, so I'm already jaded lol.
For me it was when she forcefully kissed (tricked) a young man to have his first kiss with her on national TV. I felt so bad for his victimization being aired. Thats the moment i said no more Katy.
@bloodflower11375 she might of grabbed him too. She's got a pattern. The young man I'm speaking of was auditioning for that singing show she is a judge on. He mentioned he was saving his first kiss for his wedding night. She was excited by this. Called him up to her acted like she was going to whisper in his ear, grabbed his face and forcefully kissed him on the lips.
@jj-lt7ly wrong. Look up entertainment tonight Katy Perry unwanted kiss and you'll see him say how uncomfortable he was etc. Stop victim blaming. Gross.
@@jj-lt7ly I don't hold him responsible for the things he said in shock right after the incident when a camera is shoved in his face and he's told to smile and he should be happy that moment was taken from him on live tv.
I was just thinking about Max Martin, and how he has made chart toppers over the course of multiple decades. She really has no excuse to work with a scumbag.
@@arturoDelgado-d3p I dont think "working with an alleged sexual predator isn't the career killer you would hope it is lmao" is the slam dunk you think it is.
I've been waiting for a comment like this to get more popular. Why are we not praising him more for these rapid-fire blessings? 😭🥰 I'm loving "(presumably) batch content D'Angelo". I hope whatever it is, is a balance he has found and likes! ❤
"It's a woman's world and you're lucky to be living in it" just makes my blood curdle, knowing that a female doctor-trainee in India was raped and murdered in a medical school lecture hall. Like, yeah, we're so lucky. 🙄
Let's be honest for once; non-western (white) feminists have every right to hate on men. And I hate how anti-woke and fake feminist content overshadowed the real social, legal and political struggles women go through in countries that lack women rights (or it does have women rights, but only in paper with little to no actions to protect them).
Katy Perry replacing the underpaid construction workers from the images of Empire State being built with a bunch of women seems to be a perfect encapsulation of her brand of feminism.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned yet, but the juxtaposition of historical imagery between Rosie the Riveter and Lunch Atop a Skyscraper effectively demonstrates the complete lack of clarity regarding the purpose of her satire. Those men weren’t empowered, they were enduring. She’s completely eschewed the thread of working class resilience between these two ubiquitous pieces of American iconography and misappropriated them for a hollow message about women’s empowerment.
If she did it right, she could have used the Lunch Atop a Skyscraper imagery to demonstrate historical female oppression by comparing it to the suffering of the working class, then had an actual narrative in the vid and used the Rosie the Riveter imagery for empowerment later? Maybe someone suggested something along those lines, and she just heard the two image ideas and stuck them together idk. Ik its seen as empowering now, but even Rosie the Riveter is questionable when it comes to female empowerment. Wasn't it used to encourage women to work in factories to contribute to the war effort, before those same women were stripped of their jobs once the men returned. Ik that in the 50s my grandmother had to pretend she wasn't married so that she could have a job. So even using that imagery overlooks historical nuance.
I don't know if I'm being too smart but it could be highlighting the fact that both parties(working class and women) were routinely exploited, especially back then? I haven't seen the video, just the clips shown here, but it seems like she's satirizing the way people view AND interact with the modern history of women, just in a purposely obfuscated and tongue in cheek way? In which case the way everyone is reacting to it would be EXTREMELY ironic. I don't care enough to watch the entire video and see if I'm right.
@@jellojiggler1693We got to hear Katy’s vision straight from the horse’s mouth: “It’s like ooo aaaahh not the male gaze, but actually the male gaze. We’re having a bit of fun, being sarcastic.” That’s it. That’s as deep as it gets. She absolutely did not think anything remotely on the level of what you wrote. Katy is a lot of things, but scholar, feminist, class warrior, historian, rhetorician, brainy she is not.
Katy needs to STOP working with Dr. Luke. It’s so telling how she disregards his horrible past all because she is stuck in the early 2010s… so she still think he’s a hit machine, but he’s a literal predator, but that doesn’t seem to move her. Also, his sound is so stale! Katy has to start working with other producers who will give her a fresher sound.
@@EJH783Kesha, another pop star from that time, accused him of committing SA on her. She was much younger than him, and he allegedly took advantage. I believe her.
I think it’s shocking how far Katy Perry has fallen relative to her pop peers in the early 2010s. Rihanna is seemingly done with releasing albums but she left on a high note and is still very well loved. Gaga is still going strong with solo work and continues to make great collaborative efforts (see the Chromatica remix album and her new song with Bruno Mars). And while Kesha has probably had the quietest pop career out of everyone else her music is still quality and after separating from Dr Luke she’s taken a lot more risks with her music, most of which have paid off. Meanwhile Katy has just completely flopped with every album post-Prism and at this point I don’t know if it’s possible for her to have any real comeback. It’s really unfortunate but I feel like she was doomed in a way because of not only how “of the moment” her biggest hits were but also her lack of ability to expand upon what she was already working with.
@@sleepdealer10 gaga with solo work?? All her hits and numbers are from collabs and her chromatica album has the same amount fo streams as SMILE by katy a solo album if you take out rain on me. And kesha is quite indeed any of her songs havent even cracked hot 100s
@@YIDBI haven’t listened to it yet but you’re probably right. Admittedly I’m not as familiar with her newer stuff but I listened to Rainbow for the first time recently and was honestly really impressed. Joyride also goes hard as hell
The choice to have "she's a sister, she's a mother" in lyrics is crazy to me, because it basically promotes this trend of saying to men that they should respect women because they could be someone's (presumably another's man) sister or mother, ignoring the fact that women deserve respect just on the basis of being human beings
Yup, am genuinely just annoyed at this state of discourse online right now. Men apparently have taken a collective online decision to become literal Neanderthals'. What on Earth is this nonsense discourse I see about being not able to control themselves around teenagers like that is a trait of a man to accept and admire. Excuse me???? Come online after having spent the most of my 20s raising kids not mine, not due to being forced, kind of have a moral pull and whole need to depending on how good of a role model your father was. Turns out the old man really set the bar for me to match him, and it's something ya got to do. One of the most horrific things I read online is how they believe that wealthy families all accepted their daughters were married off to abuse. The idea that all men were accepting of their daughter being domestically abused as a consequence of society is actually the most Jordan Peterson-esque thing I've read from a random poster. What is documented is that the husband and his whole family were beheaded for disrespecting her dad, the bigger patriarch and the disrespect being these people told him the son was a man in both actions and conduct. For all the mockery of feminism some people really lack understanding the "performative" part in performative masculinity. However men be on real men timing always, so got to live by the ole excuses are the nails to build a house of failure rule. What I truly do not understand is what has compelled miss Katy Perry with all her impressionable young girl fans she has, to become the literal lighthouse to the cove of rape that is Dr. Luke. I forgot Hollywood was where he was tried so assumed he was in jail. Also zero times was I ever in fear of any kind of false allegation of impropriety towards teenage girls not from them, not from their parents, not from no one. It's a pretty standard relief you were able to catch whatever caused this behavior and that it happened in a safe situation. Damn shame men still ain't clue into the actual reason the legal angle is the better one. Truly gives both a apt warning and understanding of behavioral conduct. It's loads better than the usual system and hopefully the deterrence does allow the safety to extend to all women, as the law is written. So disappointed in Katy like really she had to go and copy Ghislaine Maxwell level tactics out here?
Oh, the whole song is in line with this type of feminism that we have progressed past. The song should've been something like, "women are rising and healing the world" or something. Antifeminists already have this false notion that we're just trying to take over so we can enact the same historic cruelty back on men" or other bigoted fearmongering (eg, any variant of "they want rights just so they can take ours away as revenge!!") We'd love if she wasn't belting out "yep women own the world now, men should be thankful that we let them be alive!" (And I guess nonbinary people just, don't exist? Or are also "lucky to be living in it," and need to grovel to women too? This isnt equality, this isnt the goal. This is just oppression all over again, it's not cute) Like, Beyoncè's Run the World? It holds up. Her point is commentary on the unrecognised work women are already secretly doing throughout history, it actually achieves the punching up. And also wasn't released in 2024
"its a womans world and you're lucky to be living in it" during a period of time where we have overturned roe v. wade and are having our rights being actively stripped away at nearly every turn and are having such high levels of sexual violence being acted against us is absolutely fucking insane
Here’s my problem with Katy: she can’t envision a feminist movement she isn’t the center of. Yes I understand she’s literally the singer, the song is going to center her to some degree, but I think the negative side of the validation of her prior songs is that she sees herself as a feminist icon and props herself up accordingly. With all due respect to those who enjoyed her music, in my observation, she was only contributing to feminism so far as helping the self esteem of little girls, which is very very important! But it also shows the difference between “you’re a firework” and “this is me in Rosie the Riveter cosplay”. I think she also lacks the self awareness to recognize her inability to engage with more complex adult-level feminist discussion. I genuinely think making music specifically targeted at kids would be the healthier choice for her career than trying to be universal.
But also, are we shocked that she's fine working with a predator, when she's used her fame to do really questionable things. Like I still vividly remember her kissing a minor on American Idol, despite him saying he wanted to save his first kiss for his future special someone. There's a whole weird Katy Perry iceberg that starts looking pretty concerning, and her working with a predator on a song about 'female empowerment' is just the cherry on top at this point. She's NEVER been a girls girl, she's just been better at fooling people in the past when she was putting out actual hit songs.
That has been her whole M.O. to me all the time. Her Fundie parents saw her marketability (read boobs and conventional attractiveness) and so did the folks they gave her to (label executives)several marketing cycles later we get this
The thing with her sounding “corporate” is spot on but part of it is how successful she was 10-12 years ago … the “corporate pop” sound we hear now is a watered down recreation of the 2010s pop sound that Katy dominated the first half of. Her huge success a decade ago and her failure to evolve/change her sound is why she’s failing now
I was just talking about how artists have to adapt their sound to whatever is popular to stay on top. Like if you do the same thing over and over, it'll get stale. Doesn't mean it's always terrible, just that it loses popularity.
But she was always watered down. That was part of her success because people wanted a watered down sound at the time. Now, it seems they don't. Or at least not like this
@@MaxOakland yeah. I think the only time she didn't feel watered down was maybe on her very first album, but after that I mean I guess she found her niche
@@alim.9801 I can kind of see that. Her first album had more of a unique personality. The production was pretty watered down though, at least compared to indie pop and rock of the time
0:20 the shark thing is sort of true. they can't smell desperation, but sharks have electrical sensors that pick up neural signals from a few yards away to help them sense the brainwaves of prey, and they go after panicking signals because in the wild that usually means an injured or disoriented fish or seal is nearby, and thus they can score an easy meal.
This is so so close, but not quite. They do have organs that pick up electrical pulses (called the ampullae or lorenzini!) but they don’t pick up on neural just the electricity that every living things gives on! People often show their fear in their water by splashing and thrashing which DOES mimic the same electric signals as an ill/injured struggling prey which may make them more likely to attack. So you were correct in saying that it’s sort of true! Just a little bit to the left :)
Even if Katy Perry, in her heart of hearts, truly believed that Dr Luke did not do what he was accused of, it is still a terrible idea to work with him just from a marketing perspective. Whatever you believe about him, the immediate association most of the public has with his name is the allegations of abuse, so to tie him into your /women empowerment/ album is obviously going to make it seem disingenuous to most people. Bringing back Dr Luke reeks of a panic move made to try to recapture her former success, but the absence of Dr Luke isn’t the problem, it’s that times have changed and she hasn’t kept up.
It's because Electra Heart is a concept album. Electra is a fictional character who represents four archetypes associated with women: house wife, beauty queen, homewrecker, and idle teen. It's an actual critique of the misogyny in western culture and something Katy Perry doesn't seem to know how to achieve.
The worst part was seeing her fans going from "she is contractually obligated to work with him, otherwise she'd never work with a rapist" (which was quickly disproven) to "Kesha is lying". Simply disgusting.
People are horrid and most have no morals or ethics anymore Welcome to the new world my Friending, the average person is soulless and doesn't care at all She will be fine, she may not make much money as the music is gash but she will be fine
As someone who grew up with Katy Perry and was 17 when Witness came out, I didn’t even know that she released any albums after Prism, even though I was literally her target demographic…
I feel Katy Perry's feminism is outdated. We don't want a woman's world (nor a men's world), we want a human's world where we all can be equal free from gender stereotypes....
Another thing is, there are artists out there that are giving the early 2010s vibes with their music but it isn't like this. It isn't straight ripped from 2012. No one wants music that is literally the same, but there is good music that has the same vibes.
You wanna know who just dropped a banger nostalgic pop song? Kesha! Go listen to Joyride, it’s fun and interesting and a total earworm in the way that only mid 2010s music can be
@@fortunatecookieSO TRUE! kesha is bringing back 2010s pop and im totally here for it, but i think katy perrys new albums just need to be forgotten about.
Funny thing is I thought her career was over when she put out Smile. Smile actually had some bangers, never really over should have been bigger than it was, it felt like a HIT from her older days. But the stink of witness really seemed to carry. When she put out good music and it wasn't even appreciated that's when I felt like it was over. Now she's putting out terrible music and she's doing it with someone she might not believe is a rapist but the rest of us do. And apparently nobody advised her or she didn't listen to anyone who advised her that the public would not take kindly to that. People keep saying this sounds like 2010 but honestly it doesn't even sound like 2010 to me at all. It just sounds really really bland
I just remember how unlikeable she was on American idol, and I think that's what really did her in. For me at least, the new stuff I've heard isn't terrible terrible, it's meh, but knowing she's not a nice person makes it that I don't want to listen to her anyway. The part that really screams she's chasing her early 2010s high though is the 143 that was a thing for like 3 months??? 😅 And it's just oof
For one example of an artist that’s doing fun, cheeky, pop music that is from Katy’s era: Carly Rae Jepsen She’s 38 as of this year, an independent artist, and still making fun, relatable music that isn’t quite as “mom” as Pink (not that there’s anything wrong with mom music). Her song and visuals for 2022’s “Beach House” are fantastic
It makes me feel like Katy Perry is not even a fan of her own music… it feels so forced… eeeek 😬 you know when someone is just going through the motions but they don’t like where they currently work? This feels like that… lol!!
I once bought a bottle of fancy overpriced "sustainably produced & 100% organic" OJ because it was the only thing in the mini-bar that wasn't soda or booze. Then discovered that it *had an extra chunky cylindrical cap stuck on top of the regular small cap* , to make the bottle look more trendy. :|
I think it’s interesting that she’s not only still supporting Dr Luke, but she also hinted many times that she knew about her ex-husband’s (Russel Brand) abuse and assault of women but still kept quiet. It’s unhealthy and incredibly demeaning that she still releases songs about “empowering women” given her history.
She's been dead to me ever since she kissed that 18 year old kid without his consent so he could tell his friends "my first kiss was Katy perry" even though he said he wanted to save it for his first girlfriend
Yep, exactly. That plus just so many random clips from when she was on American Idol where she was just really gross, rude and tacky...and those instances made it on camera?? I was like, if that's what she's like when she's being filmed...what she is actually like when she isn't being filmed? 😳😬 But then I always felt like I Kissed A Girl was a bit insulting to actual bisexual women (like myself) way back in the day when that came out.
@@Marissa_Jay hm. i didn't feel the song was insulting. but i agree with you on all the rest. if anything i thought the song helped with visibility a bit. even at that time i didn't feel you could be too open about stuff like that. that and the band tattoo (tatu?) really stuck out to me as being visibility and the fact that it could get popular seemed promising for acceptance. (am gay, myself. but i know things like songs or other stuff can hit different for everyone.)
Everything Katy Perry has done has been to chase the almighty dollar and fame. She pivoted hard from Christian alternative to I kissed a Girl as her first single as a newly signed big label artist, and I remember swag asking her about that at her first ever MTV show and she stumbled through with a non answer. Katy has never been genuine, and at least now we'll hear less of her overall
Well I had no idea of this thank you for this. Am also done with her after confirming this. Like What on Earth is her damage. Does everyone in Hollywood just jump to victimizing those they have power or guardianship over outta instinct??? Oh man Dr. Luke still out of jail and even working with her? It all makes sense now, this lady needs them Ghislaine numbers.
@@phoenixmorphix MARINA (the singer). I put it in caps because that’s how it’s written on spotify😆 I think it was first Marina and the Diamonds but I’m not completely sure
@@yahyahyahuhuh omigod I was working a JT concert not long after he was arrested and heard people say the most sexist shit about Britney the whole night. Just admit the singer you like isn't a good person and stop dragging women for speaking out about their own trauma jfc. (Not you specifically, 'you' in general)
that's what i was thinking!! also firework?! she's never been known for subtle or thought provoking lyrics but she was still constantly putting out empowerment bangers. how she's managed to take a step backwards in song productions is beyond me
@@ovaelin on camera, in front of everyone, she forcibly kissed a teenage boy. She didn't ask or anything. He'd never been kissed and he was uncomfortable with it.
i get if the mother thing is annoying. she could say sisters and friends, lovers, aunts, cousins, any other descriptor etc etc etc. bc not all women are or want to be mothers 😅
@@nightcoreeclub I 100% get what you mean. There's just so many times where I've heard some variation of "men please don't do bad things to women, she could be your mother / sister / daughter".
Considering Perry herself has been accused of non-consensual kissing and touching by three different people, I guess it's not that weird for her to have her women's liberation anthem be produced by an alleged rapist.
If you told me that Katy Perry had gone into an Austin Powers-esque cryogenic sleep in 2014 and woke up ten years later to release this track, I would believe it. There have definitely been cultural moments when a shiny, vacuous girl power pop anthem would have felt appropriate; but this is not one of them
@drawingsticks5333 you joke but there literally is a scene where he refuses to sleep with a woman because she's drunk and it wouldn't be right. Austin Powers has higher standards than Doctor Fucking Luke
Why katy felt the need to do this to her young and impressionable female fans is horrid and unnecessary of her. Like in a society that makes women value being demure instead of outspoken, coupled with fame and media figure in Dr. Luke added to the whole issue of him not being a jail, is not a good combo and just should be kept away from women if at all possible.
Her insensitivity towards fans when we respectfully tried to let her know that working with Dr. Luke is something we're not condoning, especially with a song such as "Woman's world' was only the *beginning* of her asking for the end of her career to become non-existent. Back in 2012, I would've got red in the face if someone told me Katy Perry would be another celebrity we needed to ignore..
frrrr & even if she made songs with questionable messages (hot'n cold & I kissed a girl) at least since they were bops so we could go past it because nobody was listening to them for the message anyway. And lowkey problematic songs have always been fine as long as the person who wrote/sang/produced them wasn't problematic themselves & it was an actual good song. But now she's done it, the people who produce the song aren't great (the other men working with them accepted to work with an alleged sx offender soooo prolly not great people either) AND the song + mv are bad?!?! There's no coming back from that. There's a reason people still listened to her old songs produced with Dr. Luke, not only because she worked with him before the whoe thing but because they were so good that nobody wanted to stop but now with all of that I deleted all of her songs from my phone because there's no way I can support her and listen to her old songs with Dr. Luke without thinking about how she abandoned all of her morals to profit off of feminism and deems money more important than basic human decency & I know Im not alone
charli xcx released an album called “brat” and it’s been very critically acclaimed. the album and era is about partying and having fun so people have turned it into a trend
@@stuffedanimal6893 - Thank you! I hadn't heard of that album. So brat summer is like "hot girl summer" but more about being playful and innocently mischievous?
I stopped listening to Katy when on American Idol she kissed that barely adult (or maybe he was 17?) guy that had JUST told the panel he was saving his first kiss for marriage/the person he would marry. I thought it was gross, insane they were ok with airing it and the apology after was bare minimum bs. I'm not surprised she's working with a predator; she acts and has done predatory sh*t before.
@@hollyk7052 what did Russel brand do? 🙄 ugh celebrities suckkkkk Ew that’s gross, I’ve never heard of that. To be fair I haven’t really listened to her since I was a young teen.
remember how katycats blamed taylor swift for katy perry's witness flopping? turns out that katy perry can ruin her own career on her own! let's stop crediting katy perry's career choices to other women
@@DUELISTKlNGDOM its not just katycats. Its every fandom. Because even now at her grown age taylor has a habit of releasing stuff right when someone is releasing something. Taylors greed needs to be studied.
"she's too old to be doing the same thing" isn't about being old. it's about still being the exact same decades later. From 20 to 40 isn't as drastic as a change from 1 to 20, but there should still be a change. She is paused in the 2010s.
She too known to be risking the safety of her impressionable young women fans like this. Never expected Katy Perry possibly in the group of possible human trafficking professionals.
honestly white girlboss feminism is extremely out and I'm glad that this kinda proves it. In the 2010's I feel like the political landscape was changing but it was still pretty optimistic and one note, and for many obvious reasons that has lost it's appeal overtime. Also, did Katy Perry ever did "political messages" well? I just remember her Witness era being considered a miss by most people
Never understood "activism" that was just doing the toxic things to someone else. That's uh... quite literally paying the problems forward, perpetuating them, not stopping them.
Elder millennial comment: The problem is Katy was never that deep to begin with. Her whole career started one tongue and cheek ode to lesbianism, and that was enough to get controversy and vitality in the 2010's, it definitely isn't now. Her attempts at satire reminds me of when Jewel - singer-songwriter from the 90's who was considered hot, made a "satire" about music videos objectifying "women who are hot". Girl that source material leaves no breathing room for humor, plus she ended up using the song for a woman's razor and which made it 💯 vacuous. It's called "Intuition" btw I think there is a place for purposeful pop but tone deaf Katy Perry is not the spokesperson. The sad part she is actually talented, she should have done like Gaga and rely on her voice maybe?
I don't think it's a good song but it does very clearly appear to be making fun of that exact brand of vapid cash in feminism. I think maybe more effectively than it is being given credit for.
@@witchwhatwho if you're referring to women's world, I do think she intended it to be satire, but it didn't come across as such. The song just ended up being the exact same thing she tried to parody, and working with Dr Luke didn't do her any favors on her commentary on feminism
Woman's World sounds like a attempt at the Dua Lipa/Chapelle Roan/Charlie XCX genre of woman-forward music, but the person attempting it doesn't actually like that sort of music so it's an ironic "Haha could you IMAGINE?" vibe to it.
some of yall get off on calling anyone over like 24 old.... as if yall aren't aging too. Katy would be flopping just as much if she dropped this shit in her 20s
In a time where women everywhere are having their autonomy stripped away, having Olympians being docked points for nothing or being investigated for being trans, laws being overturned to further damage human rights- I cannot imagine being this absolutely tone deaf. This song is what reddit bros called the Barbie movie
@@PomuLeafEveryday This is all good and stuff you can hold these opinions BUT the point that it's CIS women being harrаssed for their victories because people ASSUME they are trаns
@@PomuLeafEveryday everything you just said is bullshit. This is being extensively studied and there are so few trans athletes that there is not enough data to come to any conclusion. You only believe this because the news reports on sensationalism as opposed to the many many trans athletes who go from 9th to 7th.
@@PomuLeafEveryday "naturally possible" - literally half the athletes on steroids - "NO NO NO THEY'RE NATURAL I SWEAR" btw being trans absolutely is natural and happens with other species as well, but hey that's too much science for you, Pomu, that's okay you can stick to picture books
@@PomuLeafEveryday 1. Cis women can also be taller, more muscular, or otherwise biologically different from other cis women. If your concern is "biological advantages", you should be advocating for a system where sports are not divided by generalizations about secondary sex characteristics, but instead by directly measured things like weight class, height class, muscle density, etc, or even something invasive like hormone range. This would ensure things are fair for all athletes, wouldn't it? Why is it fine for a cis woman to have biological advantages over her competitors, but not for a medically transitioned trans woman to have identical advantages? 2. Because biology is not particularly boolean, standards for "sex investigations" are extremely varied and usually exclude a bunch of cis people as well, especially for something like the Olympics, where all athletes are guaranteed to be outside the average in performance and training. No one has developed a test that actually successfully differentiates between cis and trans people with sufficient accuracy or consistency, because it is not a simple issue. Verification of medical records and personal history is the primary way to do so... and should be done by the organization, not random hordes of people on the internet. 3. Due to the state of trans rights across the world, "sex investigations" are extremely easy to utilize by bad actors as harassment and threat. The recently "investigated" boxer was a brown-skinned cis woman with a thoroughly documented personal history as a cis woman, who had competed in the Olympics before *and lost*. She was not "investigated" at that time. She was only investigated this year after winning against a white woman who handled her loss badly. Being queer is against the law in her home country. Many other cis women, especially non-white cis women, have also been harassed with accusations of being trans despite living and competing as cis women for decades. Serena Williams, for example. Women athletes are being harassed in the name of protecting the fairness of women's sports. 4. No elite sporting institution, to my knowledge, allows for trans women to participate in women's sports without undergoing long-term medical intervention which brings their biological functions, including but not limited to hormone levels and things that affect muscle development, in line with cis women's. Many do not even allow that. (I found a policy or two allowing trans men to self-select for participation in men's sports without medical transition.) This includes the Olympics. Furthermore, the personal and medical histories of competitors are already scrutinized by organizations like the Olympic Committee, for things like steroid use and safety concerns. Nondisclosed use or non-use of things like HRT would be caught in this process. The medical, social, and psychological effects of actual "false transition" are enough that vanishingly few people have ever attempted such a thing, and it is extremely unlikely that many more ever will. (Notably, an attempt at gathering men willing to falsely transition for a right-wing 'documentary' proving this threat to women's sports failed to find men willing to do this, even for direct financial benefit as part of the project.) Any such athlete who DID do such a thing would exclusively be awarded for performing under their "assumed gender", meaning they would either permanently have to identify as the "false transition" to retain that credit, or they would undo their lie and be immediately outed for the scheme, which no one of any political leaning thinks well of. Where, precisely, is the motivator to do this? Do you really think anyone motivated to do this just to, like, show women up would actually be able to sneak by with it and not face repercussions? 5. Trans women... can also be bad at sports. Even if trans participation in competitive sports wasn't low by population (which it is), the likelihood of a person both being trans AND being an elite athlete is extremely small. (Probability of two outcomes occurring together is calculated by multiplying their individual probabilities together. 0.5% of the adult population of the united states identifies as trans. 0.0000017% of the population [number pulled from google] reaches the Olympics. The resulting raw probability of a trans Olympic athlete is so small my calculator wrote it in scientific notation.) It's not, like... easy to be an elite athlete. An average man cannot actually walk into a woman's basketball league or swim meet and outperform them all. A trans woman could not win purely by dint of being trans. She would also have to be an extremely dedicated, skilled, talented athlete with the correct build and physical traits for her preferred sport. And binary trans people are a tiny fraction of the population. So no, a woman's team of athletes that allowed for trans women would not be 'entirely trans women'. Accounting for trans experiences (being denied medical care, dysphoria around gendered sports, dysphoria and discomfort around their own body in comparison to cis people, the risk of bigotry and alienation), most likely, most of the time, there would be none, even with extremely lenient policies. I get the worry about things becoming unfair. I acknowedge that by broad statistics, there are differences in physical traits between cis women and cis men, and that is part of why sex-based sporting categories were created in the first place. (The other reason being that women were originally not allowed to compete at all, and *had* to create their own leagues to gain access to competitive sport.) I also agree that some degree of vetting should occur for all athletes, and that rules of competition should exist. But the details of your concerns are not supported by evidence. Most trans athletes, like most cis athletes, want to compete in fair competition. Vanishingly few trans people have ever been in favor of the mythical threat of random people being allowed into competitions on an honor system, or some ban on verification practices. We just want those verifications to be evidence-based and fair, and not to be treated like criminals and cheats just for being trans. Wholesale banning trans participation either pushes them out of sports entirely (which *is* discrimination), or forces medically transitioned trans women into competition where they are disadvantaged, and medically transitioned trans men into competition where they may actually be at an advantage. That is also not a solution, and it distinctly shows a disregard for the experiences of trans people, and a devaluing of their participation in society. Public "investigations" of sex and identity for ANY athlete are invasive and usually abusive, and exclusively feed into conspiratorial 'concerns' about trans people as a demographic. They accomplish little in terms of keeping competitions fair, and punish cis women for their bodies and presentation. I implore you to look beyond the knee-jerk "common sense" reasoning behind these concerns and, if this is a subject you are sincerely passionate about, look for research on the actual prevelance of any of these issues. All advocacy work should be informed advocacy work. I recommend also looking at the effects of medical transition, studies done on trans participation in sports, statistics regarding both false transition and people who detransition, and general athletic science, including the physical traits and anomalies common to high-performance athletes. And, of course, for all studies check the source and structure of the research done, as well as vet it for recency, peer review, and possible mitigating factors (such as geographic region, self-selection of study participants, income level, incentive structures, and social or legal factors). Watch out for confirmation and observation bias in your research especially, as a polarizing topic like this will be especially susceptible to both. Anyway, in short-- if you support trans people, please hear us out on issues that affect us, and don't fall back on assumptions before you look into the data.
She had beef with Tokio Hotel? I was a fan back then but I'm from Germany and wasn't really active in online fan spaces because I was like 11 and it was 2007 or so lol
she's trying to be feminist and say she's empowering but is so unwilling to say why feminism is needed. bc obviously she's sitting next to one of the reasons 💀 that's the main issue to me
She's feminist like Brock Turner said he was feminist. Young women need to understand the ability to be not fall prey to a predator with this lack of care is not a good sign of things at all. Stay away from her.
Love how Kesha is having an actual real comeback without even trying and is demonstrating she’s still relevant…whereas Perry who collaborated with Kesha’s alleged grapist is receiving her karma right in front of the whole entire world.
@@bepinkfloyd814 Kesha has a song called 'Tic Tok' that came out around 2009. It's a bit dated but ultimately enjoyable if you can ignore one of the most poorly aged lyrics in history.
Katy riding off in the helicopter after stealing the ring light gives me the Sims stories/movies vibes. The really wild ones about giant babies or whatever. lmfao.
@@davidgonzales9039 I love chappell but it's really not a contest! There's room at the table for everyone as long as they actually slay. I think even Katy Perry herself would rather listen to Chappell at this point tho😭
@gipie Your statement doesn't change what I said. But cool story. She can be a fan, I can't speak for Chappell, but I assume she was a "Katycat" before working with Dr. Puke and releasing this crap. No one is a fan of this.
"Settled out of court" means Dr. Luke was guilty but didn't want his name smeared publicly so he agreed to "settle" with Ke$ha for an undisclosed sum for her to basically drop it. The fact that Taylor Swift donated a bunch of money to Ke$ha's legal fund speaks volumes. Swift is an industry insider so she knows details about Dr. Luke and his behavior that have not been made available to the general public.
He might have wanted to skip diacovery where other things could have come to light. but you simpletons could not grasp the concept of a lawsuit in its entirety
Dr. Luke wasn't the one on trial 😂 wtf are you talking about? They settled out of court on the premise that Kesha publicly retracts her statement. She didn't get paid anything and she didn't have to agree to a settlement. She was the one on trial who had to prove her innocence. She's the one who settled because she's guilty 😂😂😂
@paulthomas963 barbie wasn't trash,at all, it was one of the good feminist movies that exist,and katy's song wouldn't make sense since the message of barbie isn't " it's women's world" at all
@@paulthomas963 Barbie was one of the few comedies where i actually laughed at most of the parts they wanted me to laugh at. my fiance felt the same and i think he went into it not wanting to like the movie. He loves comedies, I love horror, but we both felt it, and Margot Robbie, nailed the humor.
According to Wikipedia, Perry’s hits still score pretty well in New Zealand. I would suggest her to go on tour in the country where Lord Of The Rings was made.
Katy Perry went from being the second artist in history after Michael Jackson to have 5 billboard hot 100 number one songs on a single album, to not even being able to hit the top SIXTY with Woman’s World. The fall off is INSANE.
That wasn't even a comeback to 10-year-old me, it was a brand new era of pop, full-stop. And she's still going strong today while still remaining a decent person (at least from what I know.) Katy dominated for 5-10 years with what felt like 4 hits; Kylie's been at it for around 40 years with countless bangers.
10:12 I don't think the tweet was literally commenting on her age but on the fact that, she's been in this industry for years and has already made it big and successful, if anyone is in a position to take artistic liberties and try something new, it would be her.
Just working with Dr Luke is disgusting and shouldn't be excused. I've seen people say "give Trisha some grace, I didn't know what happened with Kesha until 2 weeks ago. These women are over 30 years old AND they are celebrities. And Trisha surrounds her career and platforms with celebrity worship and praise with no research. What happened to Kesha was on the news, i remember it being on all of my social media accounts. They have no excuse to be silent or "ignorant".
We’re living in a time where we have Chappell, Billie and Charli. She could’ve started making mom music like Pink and call it a day but instead she chose her downfall 😭
Or she could've tried to actually slay like Kylie Minogue, even if she didn't totally succeed the honest attempt would have been respectable at least. She's just embarrassing herself by acting like an untouchable legend when she's really just a pop girlie who didn't even bother to notice that she's gone way past her prime
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I just want to say, thanks for four days in a row of Dave content. He's a star.
I work out at an LA Fitness religiously and the other day they played Woman’s World on the gym speakers. Well, they played fifteen seconds of it and then brutally skipped to the next track. I’ve thought about that every day since then.
I salute them for their public service.
W gym
I love how everyone collectively dislikes this song. 😭
Damm even the gym don’t want her😊
LOL
What hurts more is Katy's contemporaries (Swift, Beyoncé, Gaga, Kesha) are still active and thriving, proving it's not an age/era problem.
I think it's because a lot of them has more layers to their brand/music. For example, after Taylor made Lover which has some of the worst singles I've ever heard, she made folklore and evermore which reminds people of why they love her, just something down to earth and not heavily produced. It's not even only that, a lot of pop stars are known for something outside of music like their skincare or fashion. I think Katy just has pop under her belt and when it fails, she doesn't have any backup.
@@felitw10Beyoncé makes good pop, Gaga consistently tries new things. I don’t really listen to Taylor swift so I can’t say but the number of fans she has says a lot. Katy perry isn’t making good pop, she doesn’t try new things, and I don’t think she has that many fans left.
@@felitw10 she was a judge on American idol and I remember her being a meme just by existing quite a few times. So she has other things. But I see her more as a mom at the moment and she's not using it to make bank, who knows why. Thankfully, she has longevity as a singer, she's genuinely talented. She just needs to really rethink what she puts out. If she wants to milf money like Fergie, i wouldn't hold it against her cuz it would atleast be more genuine than this 😅 Tbh, i just need a good heartbreak anthem at the moment. Katy, please, if you're reading this.
@@susannnaah9232 katy never really had many fans in the first place tbh. She has always been a single artist
kesha is?
You wait ages for a D'Angelo video and then 74 come along at once
This the winning comment here lol
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The great rains after a drought
As we say in the UK, like waiting for a bus
right 😭
I feel like the age complaints aren't valid. The top female musicians of the modern age are all the same age and don't face the same issues. Taylor Swift is 34. Beyonce is 42. Lizzo is 36. Miley Cyrus and Ariana Grande are both 31. Katy Perry is only 39. That's not old. Dolly Parton and Cher still put out music and are successful and they are nearing 80. This is not an age issue. It's a Katy Perry issue.
They may not share the same issue, but they do share the same fear. Which is probably why Rihanna gave up on the whole concept of pop stardom for eg. It always is ageism with women, people just dont want to say it. Especially after a woman gives birth, people just dont want her anymore anywhere but in the kitchen
period, i'm tired of people bringing up her age.
To be fair, I don't think the criticism is "she's too old" I think it's "she's old enough to know better." Although the phrasing is a bit clumsy
Nah, the internet is capable of slinging both insults
Probably a combination of both. Some people are clowns
i feel it's closer to "she's been in the game too long" but i do also know people on the internet (who are wrong) hate women over the age of 25
this!!! old enough to know better.
naive take tbh
She totally wrote woman’s world for Barbie and they didn’t want it 💀
please god let this be real it would be so funny
I’d like to think this was the case
I truly fully believe this because it sounds like someone tried to recreate Pink from memory six months after watching the movie
reportedly she offered it to the Kamala campaign and they politely refused.
@@ashhlaynee it actually sounds like something out of barbie
Woman's World low-key feels like 2016/2017 Meghan Trainor mixed with Buzzfeed feminism and it is giving me war flashbacks.
Exactly. I can understand the outrage at working with Dr. Luke... but that's it. Literally eeeeverything else is selective amnesia, the heavy misuse of the "male gaze satire", the lazy scraping the bottom of the barrel feminism, the most generic "H&M shopping" rhythm mixing...
Guys. It's Katy Perry. She's literally always been this way, have some of y'all been sleeping under a rock since 2014 too? hahaha
2014-2015 Girl Boss era
Nah this song would have to be wellll before #metoo in order to actually chart. Closer to 2010-2012
@@mollusckscramp4124 Even earlier than 2014, she's always been generic. I admit I was briefly a fan during her initial come up in like 08, then Lady Gaga happened and I realized she was just paltry in comparison and I never went back. She's the living definition of 2008 hot and all the toxicity that comes with it
YES
Reminder: Katy Perry also has sexual misconduct allegations against her. Might explain why she's cool with Dr. Luke.
whAT
Wait, what happened? I never heard of those allegations against her
really? prove it take her to the court
@@gipie What an ignorant reply. Find something more productive to do
I don't know about any crazy allegations but I remember when she randomly kissed that young man on American idol. That was creepy AF @@chinchilla3050
Kylie Minogue is almost an entire Olivia Rodrigo older than Katy Perry and she's still making popular records and had a global hit just last year. It's not Perry's age, it's her work.
the first sentence 😭😭😭 i cant
This ⬆️
ENTIRE OLIVIA RODRIGO OLDER IS WILDDD 💀💀💀
Yeah, I don't think the important part of that tweet was "too damn old", but "doing the same shit".
LOL I love this math
Karma by Jojo Siwa is outstreaming Katys new single 😭💀
"Karma's a bitch, Katy should of known better!!!!"
One day you have the same achievements as Michael Jackson, the other you can't even reach Jojo Siwa
Good Lord, next thing you know Friday by Rebecca Black will be outperforming it 😂
And Brit Smith is outcharting both even though her single was never released. 🤣🤣🤣
That’s bc karma slaps 😂😂
It’s funny because, “Girls Just Want to Have Fun” is everything Katy’s song wasn’t. Cyndi gets straight to the point in her lyrics and the video actually is fun
The irony is girls just wanna have fun was written by a man
That, and Shania Twain's "She's Not Just A Pretty Face" is the tribute to women this was desperately trying to be and failing hard at it
The songs lyrics were changed, girls just wanna have fun was darker 😂 Cyndi made it fun.
@@PinkShawty149 interesting what was the original concept?
@lovelywallflower , IIRC it was a man essentially singing about how frivolous women are, she definitely overall elevated the song from just being an insult to women to actually being from a woman's perspective
I want to start by saying I used to be a huge Katy Perry fan. like obsessed levels of fandom. I once went to 5 concerts in 5 different cities in one week in my late teens (I'm 31 now, so like 13-14 years ago). Katy Perry sang for my 18th birthday on stage and I once had dinner with her. That's how big of a fan I was.
I "recently" met her, when I went to the witness album release / pre-listening party. And it didn't even feel like she was the same person anymore.
Fame and Money 100 percent went to her head. She used to be funny and kind and it felt like she actually cared about her fans. And now she just feels like this estranged person with a god complex. Like almost britney spears breakdown levels of gone.
I appreciate your video, because I have not been keeping up with KP news ever since the last time I met her. It's sad to see how the mighty have fallen.
I wonder if her American Idol judging has effected her personality in the way you describe her changed behavior. Because I can imagine being "a judge" on a major TV program- where humbled people are begging for approval from her to become pop stars, could give anyone a superiority complex.
@@ajqueen31 idk if i would say 7 1/2 years ago is recent lmaoo 💀 was that also after she stayed up for 3 days doing the witness world wide live stream?
@@JDUCSUDMU38948 your comment to me doesn't make sense to my reply to the OP
@@ajqueen31 it was meant to be to the first OP
5 concents in different cities in 1 week is ridiculous 😂
She's not too old to be making pop music, she's too old to not have learned from her mistakes by now. Like many other celebrities, she got stuck in the time that she got super famous, and hasn't learned to evolve or push herself to try new things or pay attention to the changes taking place around her since
Yup she is locked behind the bars that are 2010's forever.
I don't even think it's just that reason for her insane flop considering it's the same case for Taylor Swift, yet Taylor is still super popular. Katy's failure is truly embarrassing and deserved honestly.
Is she too old to not lead impressionable young women into the orbit of a man I assumed was in jail but forgot Hollywood loves predators. Like does she for one second have the ability to think one step beyond herself and understand how her fans may fall victim to the man where she may be able to not due to who she is???
Totalllly agree! 👏👏👏
I disagree with D’Angelo when he said that Katy can’t make purposive pop she made Roar and Wide Awake which both had good messages be brave, and Wide Awake is about letting go of trauma that I still listen to a lot
“AI generated tampon commercial” is one of the funniest things I’ve heard about this song.
Kesha tweeting “lol” the day the news dropped is iconic
legendary move
I love so much that Kesha is having a second but more authentic and free round of her classic, carefree persona
Honestly? I think she'd absolutely slay a hyperpop collaboration. Idk, get her in the studio with 100 gecs or Charli xcx or Dorian Electra
Absolutely. Still, the thing we need to consider is that Katy Perry likely doesn’t feel she has a choice. Dr. Luke and the rest of his industry run like an organized crime syndicate. There’s a massive blackmail operation in play and a great deal of underhanded manipulation and outright corruption to control artists and gain control of their output on the front end, and the rights to their catalogue and distribution on the backend.
You don’t have to be a conspiracist to see the decades of open evidence. As Hunter S. Thompson once wrote, “The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.”
@@lilpetz500 I 2nd Charli XCX + Ke$ha.
Kinda my feel tbh. I got an early dose of disappointment as a young lesbian when Katy Perry's I Kissed a Girl music video did not, in fact, contain any kissing, so I'm already jaded lol.
For me it was when she forcefully kissed (tricked) a young man to have his first kiss with her on national TV. I felt so bad for his victimization being aired. Thats the moment i said no more Katy.
Wasn't that with Justin Bieber?
@bloodflower11375 she might of grabbed him too. She's got a pattern. The young man I'm speaking of was auditioning for that singing show she is a judge on. He mentioned he was saving his first kiss for his wedding night. She was excited by this. Called him up to her acted like she was going to whisper in his ear, grabbed his face and forcefully kissed him on the lips.
the kiss was literally under his consent. Y'all can stop with this point at least
@jj-lt7ly wrong. Look up entertainment tonight Katy Perry unwanted kiss and you'll see him say how uncomfortable he was etc. Stop victim blaming. Gross.
@@jj-lt7ly I don't hold him responsible for the things he said in shock right after the incident when a camera is shoved in his face and he's told to smile and he should be happy that moment was taken from him on live tv.
She broke through with Swedish producers....there are literally thousands of Swedish song writers and producers that would make her shine again.
She should just hire Nils Sjoberg
@@dodixaverius9176 Hehe..i had to google this. But every successful woman has a Swedish history ;)
Tove Lo would have been perfect.
I was just thinking about Max Martin, and how he has made chart toppers over the course of multiple decades. She really has no excuse to work with a scumbag.
@@Nicole-zh7pltovay lo??? period!!!!
Kesha releasing Joyride, a banger, an iconic bop, the same summer Katy Perry releases a flop produced by Dr. Luke... iconic
love to see it !
Beep beep bitch I’m outside!!!
Katy actually charted 💀 and outstreamed lmao
@@arturoDelgado-d3p I dont think "working with an alleged sexual predator isn't the career killer you would hope it is lmao" is the slam dunk you think it is.
@@arturoDelgado-d3pNo that song flopped like a fish out of water (stop the cap) 😂😂😂😂
i’m loving the influx of d’angelo content we’re eating so good
Real
i’m so happy and his set up is so pretty too everything is great
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Same!! 🎉🎉
I've been waiting for a comment like this to get more popular. Why are we not praising him more for these rapid-fire blessings? 😭🥰 I'm loving "(presumably) batch content D'Angelo". I hope whatever it is, is a balance he has found and likes! ❤
"It's a woman's world and you're lucky to be living in it" just makes my blood curdle, knowing that a female doctor-trainee in India was raped and murdered in a medical school lecture hall. Like, yeah, we're so lucky. 🙄
This 😢
I don't think such corporate slop should offend you this hard, it's ALL out of touch.
@@MochaRitz tell me you’re a man without telling me you’re a man
Way to be up on you current affairs.
Let's be honest for once; non-western (white) feminists have every right to hate on men. And I hate how anti-woke and fake feminist content overshadowed the real social, legal and political struggles women go through in countries that lack women rights (or it does have women rights, but only in paper with little to no actions to protect them).
Katy Perry replacing the underpaid construction workers from the images of Empire State being built with a bunch of women seems to be a perfect encapsulation of her brand of feminism.
Doing so while exposing as much flesh as possible is just *chefs kiss*
Not sure if it’s been mentioned yet, but the juxtaposition of historical imagery between Rosie the Riveter and Lunch Atop a Skyscraper effectively demonstrates the complete lack of clarity regarding the purpose of her satire. Those men weren’t empowered, they were enduring. She’s completely eschewed the thread of working class resilience between these two ubiquitous pieces of American iconography and misappropriated them for a hollow message about women’s empowerment.
She's too rich to understand labour history i fear
If she did it right, she could have used the Lunch Atop a Skyscraper imagery to demonstrate historical female oppression by comparing it to the suffering of the working class, then had an actual narrative in the vid and used the Rosie the Riveter imagery for empowerment later? Maybe someone suggested something along those lines, and she just heard the two image ideas and stuck them together idk.
Ik its seen as empowering now, but even Rosie the Riveter is questionable when it comes to female empowerment. Wasn't it used to encourage women to work in factories to contribute to the war effort, before those same women were stripped of their jobs once the men returned. Ik that in the 50s my grandmother had to pretend she wasn't married so that she could have a job. So even using that imagery overlooks historical nuance.
I don't know if I'm being too smart but it could be highlighting the fact that both parties(working class and women) were routinely exploited, especially back then? I haven't seen the video, just the clips shown here, but it seems like she's satirizing the way people view AND interact with the modern history of women, just in a purposely obfuscated and tongue in cheek way? In which case the way everyone is reacting to it would be EXTREMELY ironic. I don't care enough to watch the entire video and see if I'm right.
@@jellojiggler1693We got to hear Katy’s vision straight from the horse’s mouth: “It’s like ooo aaaahh not the male gaze, but actually the male gaze. We’re having a bit of fun, being sarcastic.”
That’s it. That’s as deep as it gets. She absolutely did not think anything remotely on the level of what you wrote.
Katy is a lot of things, but scholar, feminist, class warrior, historian, rhetorician, brainy she is not.
Katy needs to STOP working with Dr. Luke. It’s so telling how she disregards his horrible past all because she is stuck in the early 2010s… so she still think he’s a hit machine, but he’s a literal predator, but that doesn’t seem to move her. Also, his sound is so stale! Katy has to start working with other producers who will give her a fresher sound.
@@EJH783you can look it up. He raped Kesha (and did a lot of other bad stuff)
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@EJH783 dr Luke is a producer most notoriously known for harming Kesha and stifling her career for 10+ years
@@EJH783horrible things to Kesha 😢
@@EJH783Kesha, another pop star from that time, accused him of committing SA on her. She was much younger than him, and he allegedly took advantage. I believe her.
She’s a sister, she’s a mother , she’s a runner, she’s a track star. 😭😭😭 13:30
I think it’s shocking how far Katy Perry has fallen relative to her pop peers in the early 2010s. Rihanna is seemingly done with releasing albums but she left on a high note and is still very well loved. Gaga is still going strong with solo work and continues to make great collaborative efforts (see the Chromatica remix album and her new song with Bruno Mars). And while Kesha has probably had the quietest pop career out of everyone else her music is still quality and after separating from Dr Luke she’s taken a lot more risks with her music, most of which have paid off.
Meanwhile Katy has just completely flopped with every album post-Prism and at this point I don’t know if it’s possible for her to have any real comeback. It’s really unfortunate but I feel like she was doomed in a way because of not only how “of the moment” her biggest hits were but also her lack of ability to expand upon what she was already working with.
And even now dr luke still continues to be rich and produce music.
@@ZoaInBlackwhich is really unfortunate. There are so many better producers you could work with
@@sleepdealer10 gaga with solo work?? All her hits and numbers are from collabs and her chromatica album has the same amount fo streams as SMILE by katy a solo album if you take out rain on me. And kesha is quite indeed any of her songs havent even cracked hot 100s
I'd say Kesha's music has gotten better with time and away from mainstream. Gag order is such a great album.
@@YIDBI haven’t listened to it yet but you’re probably right. Admittedly I’m not as familiar with her newer stuff but I listened to Rainbow for the first time recently and was honestly really impressed. Joyride also goes hard as hell
The choice to have "she's a sister, she's a mother" in lyrics is crazy to me, because it basically promotes this trend of saying to men that they should respect women because they could be someone's (presumably another's man) sister or mother, ignoring the fact that women deserve respect just on the basis of being human beings
it's trying to train people to have empathy. which is wild, that some seem born without that or common sense.
When a woman is defined by her value to a man 😍
Yup, am genuinely just annoyed at this state of discourse online right now. Men apparently have taken a collective online decision to become literal Neanderthals'. What on Earth is this nonsense discourse I see about being not able to control themselves around teenagers like that is a trait of a man to accept and admire. Excuse me???? Come online after having spent the most of my 20s raising kids not mine, not due to being forced, kind of have a moral pull and whole need to depending on how good of a role model your father was. Turns out the old man really set the bar for me to match him, and it's something ya got to do. One of the most horrific things I read online is how they believe that wealthy families all accepted their daughters were married off to abuse. The idea that all men were accepting of their daughter being domestically abused as a consequence of society is actually the most Jordan Peterson-esque thing I've read from a random poster. What is documented is that the husband and his whole family were beheaded for disrespecting her dad, the bigger patriarch and the disrespect being these people told him the son was a man in both actions and conduct. For all the mockery of feminism some people really lack understanding the "performative" part in performative masculinity. However men be on real men timing always, so got to live by the ole excuses are the nails to build a house of failure rule.
What I truly do not understand is what has compelled miss Katy Perry with all her impressionable young girl fans she has, to become the literal lighthouse to the cove of rape that is Dr. Luke. I forgot Hollywood was where he was tried so assumed he was in jail.
Also zero times was I ever in fear of any kind of false allegation of impropriety towards teenage girls not from them, not from their parents, not from no one. It's a pretty standard relief you were able to catch whatever caused this behavior and that it happened in a safe situation. Damn shame men still ain't clue into the actual reason the legal angle is the better one. Truly gives both a apt warning and understanding of behavioral conduct. It's loads better than the usual system and hopefully the deterrence does allow the safety to extend to all women, as the law is written. So disappointed in Katy like really she had to go and copy Ghislaine Maxwell level tactics out here?
Very true
Oh, the whole song is in line with this type of feminism that we have progressed past.
The song should've been something like, "women are rising and healing the world" or something. Antifeminists already have this false notion that we're just trying to take over so we can enact the same historic cruelty back on men" or other bigoted fearmongering (eg, any variant of "they want rights just so they can take ours away as revenge!!")
We'd love if she wasn't belting out "yep women own the world now, men should be thankful that we let them be alive!" (And I guess nonbinary people just, don't exist? Or are also "lucky to be living in it," and need to grovel to women too? This isnt equality, this isnt the goal. This is just oppression all over again, it's not cute)
Like, Beyoncè's Run the World? It holds up. Her point is commentary on the unrecognised work women are already secretly doing throughout history, it actually achieves the punching up. And also wasn't released in 2024
"its a womans world and you're lucky to be living in it" during a period of time where we have overturned roe v. wade and are having our rights being actively stripped away at nearly every turn and are having such high levels of sexual violence being acted against us is absolutely fucking insane
It really looks like she's making fun of feminism. Completely missed the mark.
This is all false
Literally 💔
tone deaf
@@echo_felix331 on all levels
Here’s my problem with Katy: she can’t envision a feminist movement she isn’t the center of. Yes I understand she’s literally the singer, the song is going to center her to some degree, but I think the negative side of the validation of her prior songs is that she sees herself as a feminist icon and props herself up accordingly. With all due respect to those who enjoyed her music, in my observation, she was only contributing to feminism so far as helping the self esteem of little girls, which is very very important! But it also shows the difference between “you’re a firework” and “this is me in Rosie the Riveter cosplay”. I think she also lacks the self awareness to recognize her inability to engage with more complex adult-level feminist discussion. I genuinely think making music specifically targeted at kids would be the healthier choice for her career than trying to be universal.
The music might’ve said “women’s world” but the entire video was made for the male gaze.
That’s the angle she was going for I guess. Very Barbie of her 💖
@@TheNinjapancake14 nah, Barbie is a fem4fem sapphic queen. Katy went for the shallow angle cause her understanding of feminism is shallow
What’s even weirder as that she said it was “sAtIrE”
Ikr? It felt so clumsy and dated.
😬😬😬
@@TheNinjapancake14Barbie is female gaze, gtfo.
But also, are we shocked that she's fine working with a predator, when she's used her fame to do really questionable things. Like I still vividly remember her kissing a minor on American Idol, despite him saying he wanted to save his first kiss for his future special someone. There's a whole weird Katy Perry iceberg that starts looking pretty concerning, and her working with a predator on a song about 'female empowerment' is just the cherry on top at this point. She's NEVER been a girls girl, she's just been better at fooling people in the past when she was putting out actual hit songs.
I’ve been searching for another comment about her assaulting that young boy! Seems like nobody remembers that
Didn’t she assault Justin Bieber when he was like 15?
while i agree in general, he was not a minor. Her behavior was still unequivocally wrong and i've never liked her since.
Yeah she’s a pred to me after that creepy SA bs she pulled
That has been her whole M.O. to me all the time. Her Fundie parents saw her marketability (read boobs and conventional attractiveness) and so did the folks they gave her to (label executives)several marketing cycles later we get this
The thing with her sounding “corporate” is spot on but part of it is how successful she was 10-12 years ago … the “corporate pop” sound we hear now is a watered down recreation of the 2010s pop sound that Katy dominated the first half of.
Her huge success a decade ago and her failure to evolve/change her sound is why she’s failing now
I was just talking about how artists have to adapt their sound to whatever is popular to stay on top. Like if you do the same thing over and over, it'll get stale. Doesn't mean it's always terrible, just that it loses popularity.
But she was always watered down. That was part of her success because people wanted a watered down sound at the time. Now, it seems they don't. Or at least not like this
@@MaxOakland yeah. I think the only time she didn't feel watered down was maybe on her very first album, but after that I mean I guess she found her niche
@@alim.9801 I can kind of see that. Her first album had more of a unique personality. The production was pretty watered down though, at least compared to indie pop and rock of the time
0:20 the shark thing is sort of true. they can't smell desperation, but sharks have electrical sensors that pick up neural signals from a few yards away to help them sense the brainwaves of prey, and they go after panicking signals because in the wild that usually means an injured or disoriented fish or seal is nearby, and thus they can score an easy meal.
This is so so close, but not quite. They do have organs that pick up electrical pulses (called the ampullae or lorenzini!) but they don’t pick up on neural just the electricity that every living things gives on! People often show their fear in their water by splashing and thrashing which DOES mimic the same electric signals as an ill/injured struggling prey which may make them more likely to attack. So you were correct in saying that it’s sort of true! Just a little bit to the left :)
Even if Katy Perry, in her heart of hearts, truly believed that Dr Luke did not do what he was accused of, it is still a terrible idea to work with him just from a marketing perspective. Whatever you believe about him, the immediate association most of the public has with his name is the allegations of abuse, so to tie him into your /women empowerment/ album is obviously going to make it seem disingenuous to most people. Bringing back Dr Luke reeks of a panic move made to try to recapture her former success, but the absence of Dr Luke isn’t the problem, it’s that times have changed and she hasn’t kept up.
Yours is a more well-thought out, articulate argument than the fucking idiot of this shit video could ever produce.
@@mustang8206 laughing at both your bad take and the fact you got the chromosome wrong LOL
@@reriykan Take your meds
@@reriykanwhat on gandalfs long beard are you blabbering about?
Even if you don't believe Kesha about her assault, there is also that time he gave her an eating disorder that she had to get treated for.
How to be a Heartbreaker by Marina and the Diamonds is an actual satire, and that came out over ten years ago.
Same with Bubblegum Bitch, Primadonna, and a lot of the other songs from Electra Heart.
It's because Electra Heart is a concept album. Electra is a fictional character who represents four archetypes associated with women: house wife, beauty queen, homewrecker, and idle teen. It's an actual critique of the misogyny in western culture and something Katy Perry doesn't seem to know how to achieve.
@@phantasmagorics perfectly said. Glad to see another Diamond in the wild 😁
wow i totally forgot her! i still remember i discovered her because of michelle phan's "how to be a heartbreaker" makeup tutorial
💕💎
The worst part was seeing her fans going from "she is contractually obligated to work with him, otherwise she'd never work with a rapist" (which was quickly disproven) to "Kesha is lying".
Simply disgusting.
People are horrid and most have no morals or ethics anymore
Welcome to the new world my Friending, the average person is soulless and doesn't care at all
She will be fine, she may not make much money as the music is gash but she will be fine
she has fans?
yeah! I bet if michael jackson was alive today, she would be open for a duet with him
@@jablanbukvovski he's literally proven innocent stop it
@@jablanbukvovski Michael jackson was proven innocent with pretty concrete evidence but sure
As someone who grew up with Katy Perry and was 17 when Witness came out, I didn’t even know that she released any albums after Prism, even though I was literally her target demographic…
I feel Katy Perry's feminism is outdated. We don't want a woman's world (nor a men's world), we want a human's world where we all can be equal free from gender stereotypes....
It's very 2016 feminism in my eyes
@@phi11052016 feminism wasn't like this at all too😂 this song is misogynistic let's be real
Kinda a missed opportunity to feature all types of women. Like give me female bodybuilders and models, etc
@@phi1105 Its _worse_ than that. Its pop capitalist feminism
@@Ashbrash1998 Whaaaaat? And how she's gonna cater to the average cishet male with mid tastes then???😱😱😱
“I’M KATY PERRY” at the end of the music video 😬
So fucking awful
In case we forgot about her😭
@@chisomo8088 We're all trying to forget her now
jason derulo vibes 😂
LUUUKAAAAS GRAAAAAHAAAAAAM
Another thing is, there are artists out there that are giving the early 2010s vibes with their music but it isn't like this. It isn't straight ripped from 2012. No one wants music that is literally the same, but there is good music that has the same vibes.
You wanna know who just dropped a banger nostalgic pop song? Kesha! Go listen to Joyride, it’s fun and interesting and a total earworm in the way that only mid 2010s music can be
@@fortunatecookieSO TRUE! kesha is bringing back 2010s pop and im totally here for it, but i think katy perrys new albums just need to be forgotten about.
Funny thing is I thought her career was over when she put out Smile. Smile actually had some bangers, never really over should have been bigger than it was, it felt like a HIT from her older days. But the stink of witness really seemed to carry. When she put out good music and it wasn't even appreciated that's when I felt like it was over.
Now she's putting out terrible music and she's doing it with someone she might not believe is a rapist but the rest of us do. And apparently nobody advised her or she didn't listen to anyone who advised her that the public would not take kindly to that.
People keep saying this sounds like 2010 but honestly it doesn't even sound like 2010 to me at all. It just sounds really really bland
I just remember how unlikeable she was on American idol, and I think that's what really did her in. For me at least, the new stuff I've heard isn't terrible terrible, it's meh, but knowing she's not a nice person makes it that I don't want to listen to her anyway. The part that really screams she's chasing her early 2010s high though is the 143 that was a thing for like 3 months??? 😅 And it's just oof
Chappell Roan is a good example I think. Her songs remind me very much of the 2010s
Dr. D'Angelo, thank you for assigning that extra credit. It brought up my GPA to a 3.8!!! Looking forward to your next class!
For one example of an artist that’s doing fun, cheeky, pop music that is from Katy’s era:
Carly Rae Jepsen
She’s 38 as of this year, an independent artist, and still making fun, relatable music that isn’t quite as “mom” as Pink (not that there’s anything wrong with mom music). Her song and visuals for 2022’s “Beach House” are fantastic
Always love seeing how passionate Carly fans are in the wild! It reminds me of Taylor Swift cult following before she hit it big
I LOVE HER 😭😭
Her "Run Away With Me" is still a bop even after 9 years.
All Carly Rae Jepson songs are the same song. Literally.
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@@davrowpot5585 "emotion" is up there with "body talk" for me as best pop albums of the 2010s.
It makes me feel like Katy Perry is not even a fan of her own music… it feels so forced… eeeek 😬 you know when someone is just going through the motions but they don’t like where they currently work? This feels like that… lol!!
It makes me wonder if she's broke and super desperate to make bank now?
Like she must make something once in few years
"purposeful pop" sounds like a sustainable fancy overpriced soda brand
😭😭😭
After hearing Woman's World, I'm starting to think we were too hard on Witness and Smile. 😂😅
I referred to my old man like that when I was doing this old timey vaudeville bit joke.
I once bought a bottle of fancy overpriced "sustainably produced & 100% organic" OJ because it was the only thing in the mini-bar that wasn't soda or booze. Then discovered that it *had an extra chunky cylindrical cap stuck on top of the regular small cap* , to make the bottle look more trendy. :|
$8.99 for a 4-pack at Whole Foods lol
I think it’s interesting that she’s not only still supporting Dr Luke, but she also hinted many times that she knew about her ex-husband’s (Russel Brand) abuse and assault of women but still kept quiet. It’s unhealthy and incredibly demeaning that she still releases songs about “empowering women” given her history.
She did, omg?!
She's been dead to me ever since she kissed that 18 year old kid without his consent so he could tell his friends "my first kiss was Katy perry" even though he said he wanted to save it for his first girlfriend
Yep, exactly. That plus just so many random clips from when she was on American Idol where she was just really gross, rude and tacky...and those instances made it on camera?? I was like, if that's what she's like when she's being filmed...what she is actually like when she isn't being filmed? 😳😬 But then I always felt like I Kissed A Girl was a bit insulting to actual bisexual women (like myself) way back in the day when that came out.
@@Marissa_Jay 100% AGREE. That song was upsetting. American Idol is definitely why so many people don't like her, too.
@@Marissa_Jay hm. i didn't feel the song was insulting. but i agree with you on all the rest. if anything i thought the song helped with visibility a bit. even at that time i didn't feel you could be too open about stuff like that. that and the band tattoo (tatu?) really stuck out to me as being visibility and the fact that it could get popular seemed promising for acceptance. (am gay, myself. but i know things like songs or other stuff can hit different for everyone.)
Everything Katy Perry has done has been to chase the almighty dollar and fame. She pivoted hard from Christian alternative to I kissed a Girl as her first single as a newly signed big label artist, and I remember swag asking her about that at her first ever MTV show and she stumbled through with a non answer. Katy has never been genuine, and at least now we'll hear less of her overall
Well I had no idea of this thank you for this. Am also done with her after confirming this. Like What on Earth is her damage. Does everyone in Hollywood just jump to victimizing those they have power or guardianship over outta instinct??? Oh man Dr. Luke still out of jail and even working with her? It all makes sense now, this lady needs them Ghislaine numbers.
"Who is this white woman who just appropriated my dance moves and took off" 😂😂
And her just yelling I'M KATY PERRY lmao
Screaming hahaha
Katy robbed her ring light and everything. So rude.
“KATY😡 HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING?!👹!!?!?
This was actually an accurate representation of how white feminists treat POC women all the time.
Womans World could be summed up with "Marina did it better"
so glad someone else was thinking of that song
Yess! i immediately thought of that
So true, love Marina our queen
Who? (No shade)
I was thinking Marina from Splatoons.
@@phoenixmorphix MARINA (the singer). I put it in caps because that’s how it’s written on spotify😆 I think it was first Marina and the Diamonds but I’m not completely sure
Fun fact: Katy Perry’s Witness came out the same day as SZA’s debut album CTRL. Katy’s first week was double SZA’s, which only debuted and peaked at 3
Her fans are so annoying and evil on twitter and they always attack kesha to the worst going as far as blaming kesha for this downfall.
Kesha is mother and she's living her best life. Those people are the very worst.
I seriously believe KP fans are genetically related to Justin Timberlake stans.
@@yahyahyahuhuh he's absolutely horrible as well lmao you're right
@@yahyahyahuhuhI didn’t know either of those people had stans
@@yahyahyahuhuh omigod I was working a JT concert not long after he was arrested and heard people say the most sexist shit about Britney the whole night. Just admit the singer you like isn't a good person and stop dragging women for speaking out about their own trauma jfc. (Not you specifically, 'you' in general)
It's funny that her most famous song "Roar" is more about empowerment than whatever her new song tries to do.
also Part of me
agree with you two, where are those deep-meaning songs at?
that's what i was thinking!! also firework?! she's never been known for subtle or thought provoking lyrics but she was still constantly putting out empowerment bangers. how she's managed to take a step backwards in song productions is beyond me
Which is a ripoff of the Sarah Bareilles song
Also, This is the Part of Me. Freaking amazing embowered song too.
my favorite genre on the internet is trisha paytas showing up in the most random places
I hope you're doing as well as you seem to be. I love the energy you've brought to your new videos.
8:08 Actually it really annoys me the double standard where Katy SA'ed a man on TV and almost no one seems to know about it or care.
Yup, this was my final straw with her.
What show was it?
@@mattia51296 iirc it was American idol or something like that
she SA’ed someone??? jesus i’ve never heard of this
@@ovaelin on camera, in front of everyone, she forcibly kissed a teenage boy. She didn't ask or anything. He'd never been kissed and he was uncomfortable with it.
does anyone else feel annoyed by like "women are mothers and sisters!" as if our only value is our relationship to men
idk. we can be mothers and sisters of other women 😂
i get if the mother thing is annoying. she could say sisters and friends, lovers, aunts, cousins, any other descriptor etc etc etc. bc not all women are or want to be mothers 😅
Sadly for some people that's the only way they could feel empathy, might stem from low emotional intelligence
@@nightcoreeclub I 100% get what you mean. There's just so many times where I've heard some variation of "men please don't do bad things to women, she could be your mother / sister / daughter".
We just wanna be a whole person on our own, not because of a relationship or because of children
I'm a large straight dude from oklahoma that grew up on a farm, love getting the messy news from D'Angelo.
how's life going over there
i’m from oklahoma too!
Thanks for telling us your size.
@@susumeyun not so great if you know anything about Ryan Walters. Probably gonna have to homeschool my kids....
Cody Ko 🎉
Considering Perry herself has been accused of non-consensual kissing and touching by three different people, I guess it's not that weird for her to have her women's liberation anthem be produced by an alleged rapist.
If you told me that Katy Perry had gone into an Austin Powers-esque cryogenic sleep in 2014 and woke up ten years later to release this track, I would believe it. There have definitely been cultural moments when a shiny, vacuous girl power pop anthem would have felt appropriate; but this is not one of them
Austin Power would have been a better ally than Kate Perry at this point
@drawingsticks5333 you joke but there literally is a scene where he refuses to sleep with a woman because she's drunk and it wouldn't be right. Austin Powers has higher standards than Doctor Fucking Luke
@@drawingsticks5333 Agreed
Woman by Kesha is what Woman's World wishes it was, and it makes the work with Dr. Luke turn it further into faux-empowerment for me
Why katy felt the need to do this to her young and impressionable female fans is horrid and unnecessary of her. Like in a society that makes women value being demure instead of outspoken, coupled with fame and media figure in Dr. Luke added to the whole issue of him not being a jail, is not a good combo and just should be kept away from women if at all possible.
This, omg!
Her insensitivity towards fans when we respectfully tried to let her know that working with Dr. Luke is something we're not condoning, especially with a song such as "Woman's world' was only the *beginning* of her asking for the end of her career to become non-existent. Back in 2012, I would've got red in the face if someone told me Katy Perry would be another celebrity we needed to ignore..
frrrr & even if she made songs with questionable messages (hot'n cold & I kissed a girl) at least since they were bops so we could go past it because nobody was listening to them for the message anyway. And lowkey problematic songs have always been fine as long as the person who wrote/sang/produced them wasn't problematic themselves & it was an actual good song. But now she's done it, the people who produce the song aren't great (the other men working with them accepted to work with an alleged sx offender soooo prolly not great people either) AND the song + mv are bad?!?! There's no coming back from that. There's a reason people still listened to her old songs produced with Dr. Luke, not only because she worked with him before the whoe thing but because they were so good that nobody wanted to stop but now with all of that I deleted all of her songs from my phone because there's no way I can support her and listen to her old songs with Dr. Luke without thinking about how she abandoned all of her morals to profit off of feminism and deems money more important than basic human decency & I know Im not alone
same 😭
Katy Perry bullying Meghan markle and then showing up to the kings coronation rubbed me the wrong way
katy releasing mid and bad during brat summer is wild
I'm in my early 30s, wtf is "brat summer"?
@@RachelRichards Charli XCX released a new popular album called brat some time ago
charli xcx released an album called “brat” and it’s been very critically acclaimed. the album and era is about partying and having fun so people have turned it into a trend
@@stuffedanimal6893 - Thank you! I hadn't heard of that album. So brat summer is like "hot girl summer" but more about being playful and innocently mischievous?
@@RachelRichardsI’m speed running to keep up with Gen Z/Gen Alpha lingo. 😅
"it's giving AI generated Tampax commerical" killed me 5:16
"Thank you D'Angelo!" we say in unison
Like well-behaved elementary students 😊
Thank you D'Angelo ❤ But seriously we're way to fed, i hope he won't just disappear 😂
@@queenizzy01🤣🤣 I love this comment
do yall not get tired of parroting the same joke on every youtuber comment section
I just gotta say, Thank you D'Angelo
She lost me when she strong-armed her current mansion away from nuns by suing them 😣
she did WHAT
@@noahfan2719 yup
I stopped listening to Katy when on American Idol she kissed that barely adult (or maybe he was 17?) guy that had JUST told the panel he was saving his first kiss for marriage/the person he would marry. I thought it was gross, insane they were ok with airing it and the apology after was bare minimum bs. I'm not surprised she's working with a predator; she acts and has done predatory sh*t before.
Her ex is Russell brand too
Same
you're sick af
@@hollyk7052 what did Russel brand do? 🙄 ugh celebrities suckkkkk
Ew that’s gross, I’ve never heard of that. To be fair I haven’t really listened to her since I was a young teen.
That happened!?!🤯 Why would anyone ever do that?!
remember how katycats blamed taylor swift for katy perry's witness flopping? turns out that katy perry can ruin her own career on her own! let's stop crediting katy perry's career choices to other women
No no, haven't you heard? This is Kesha's fault this time!
@@DUELISTKlNGDOM its not just katycats. Its every fandom. Because even now at her grown age taylor has a habit of releasing stuff right when someone is releasing something. Taylors greed needs to be studied.
@@HamazuraGOD no ones blaming that khia kesha LMAO she couldnt even crack top 5 bubbling under ijbol. All shes done is fuelimg it
@@fattiesunite2288
Don't fucking take it out on me, it's everyone on Twitter blaming kesha
@@fattiesunite2288
Well don't take it out on me, it's all the people on Twitter that's blaming kesha
"she's too old to be doing the same thing" isn't about being old. it's about still being the exact same decades later. From 20 to 40 isn't as drastic as a change from 1 to 20, but there should still be a change. She is paused in the 2010s.
She too known to be risking the safety of her impressionable young women fans like this. Never expected Katy Perry possibly in the group of possible human trafficking professionals.
Early 2010s 🤭
Catherine Hudson would have been a tradwife if she never became Katy Perry
This, fr
honestly white girlboss feminism is extremely out and I'm glad that this kinda proves it. In the 2010's I feel like the political landscape was changing but it was still pretty optimistic and one note, and for many obvious reasons that has lost it's appeal overtime. Also, did Katy Perry ever did "political messages" well? I just remember her Witness era being considered a miss by most people
Agreeed
Never understood "activism" that was just doing the toxic things to someone else. That's uh... quite literally paying the problems forward, perpetuating them, not stopping them.
Elder millennial comment: The problem is Katy was never that deep to begin with.
Her whole career started one tongue and cheek ode to lesbianism, and that was enough to get controversy and vitality in the 2010's, it definitely isn't now.
Her attempts at satire reminds me of when Jewel - singer-songwriter from the 90's who was considered hot, made a "satire" about music videos objectifying "women who are hot".
Girl that source material leaves no breathing room for humor, plus she ended up using the song for a woman's razor and which made it 💯 vacuous. It's called "Intuition" btw
I think there is a place for purposeful pop but tone deaf Katy Perry is not the spokesperson.
The sad part she is actually talented, she should have done like Gaga and rely on her voice maybe?
I don't think it's a good song but it does very clearly appear to be making fun of that exact brand of vapid cash in feminism. I think maybe more effectively than it is being given credit for.
@@witchwhatwho if you're referring to women's world, I do think she intended it to be satire, but it didn't come across as such. The song just ended up being the exact same thing she tried to parody, and working with Dr Luke didn't do her any favors on her commentary on feminism
Your point about the Woman's world being what a neckbeard would make to crap on the feminist movement was SO ON POINT. Great insight.
The just eat commercial was the last peak in her career lol
Woman's World sounds like a attempt at the Dua Lipa/Chapelle Roan/Charlie XCX genre of woman-forward music, but the person attempting it doesn't actually like that sort of music so it's an ironic "Haha could you IMAGINE?" vibe to it.
some of yall get off on calling anyone over like 24 old.... as if yall aren't aging too. Katy would be flopping just as much if she dropped this shit in her 20s
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It’s pretty pathetic because we are all going down the same path of time, but at different paces.😂
@banquetoftheleviathan1404 they are literally saying she is old.
@@cherrybalm9999 she actually wouldnt because it would go straight to #1 when she was 20
@@fattiesunite2288 I was in college when Teenage Dream dropped. I assure you, it would not lol
18:26 “She goes to Ibiza in the video, and she doesn’t even take a pill 😭😭😭” lmaooo
😂😂😂😂
Considering how Katy grew up its weird that We are getting this kinda music now. I would've expected this in the beginning of her career not now.
In a time where women everywhere are having their autonomy stripped away, having Olympians being docked points for nothing or being investigated for being trans, laws being overturned to further damage human rights- I cannot imagine being this absolutely tone deaf. This song is what reddit bros called the Barbie movie
@@PomuLeafEveryday This is all good and stuff you can hold these opinions BUT the point that it's CIS women being harrаssed for their victories because people ASSUME they are trаns
@@PomuLeafEveryday everything you just said is bullshit. This is being extensively studied and there are so few trans athletes that there is not enough data to come to any conclusion. You only believe this because the news reports on sensationalism as opposed to the many many trans athletes who go from 9th to 7th.
@@PomuLeafEveryday she isn't even trans though... but some article came out saying she is and all hell broke loose
@@PomuLeafEveryday "naturally possible" - literally half the athletes on steroids - "NO NO NO THEY'RE NATURAL I SWEAR"
btw being trans absolutely is natural and happens with other species as well, but hey that's too much science for you, Pomu, that's okay you can stick to picture books
@@PomuLeafEveryday
1. Cis women can also be taller, more muscular, or otherwise biologically different from other cis women. If your concern is "biological advantages", you should be advocating for a system where sports are not divided by generalizations about secondary sex characteristics, but instead by directly measured things like weight class, height class, muscle density, etc, or even something invasive like hormone range. This would ensure things are fair for all athletes, wouldn't it? Why is it fine for a cis woman to have biological advantages over her competitors, but not for a medically transitioned trans woman to have identical advantages?
2. Because biology is not particularly boolean, standards for "sex investigations" are extremely varied and usually exclude a bunch of cis people as well, especially for something like the Olympics, where all athletes are guaranteed to be outside the average in performance and training. No one has developed a test that actually successfully differentiates between cis and trans people with sufficient accuracy or consistency, because it is not a simple issue. Verification of medical records and personal history is the primary way to do so... and should be done by the organization, not random hordes of people on the internet.
3. Due to the state of trans rights across the world, "sex investigations" are extremely easy to utilize by bad actors as harassment and threat. The recently "investigated" boxer was a brown-skinned cis woman with a thoroughly documented personal history as a cis woman, who had competed in the Olympics before *and lost*. She was not "investigated" at that time. She was only investigated this year after winning against a white woman who handled her loss badly. Being queer is against the law in her home country. Many other cis women, especially non-white cis women, have also been harassed with accusations of being trans despite living and competing as cis women for decades. Serena Williams, for example. Women athletes are being harassed in the name of protecting the fairness of women's sports.
4. No elite sporting institution, to my knowledge, allows for trans women to participate in women's sports without undergoing long-term medical intervention which brings their biological functions, including but not limited to hormone levels and things that affect muscle development, in line with cis women's. Many do not even allow that. (I found a policy or two allowing trans men to self-select for participation in men's sports without medical transition.) This includes the Olympics. Furthermore, the personal and medical histories of competitors are already scrutinized by organizations like the Olympic Committee, for things like steroid use and safety concerns. Nondisclosed use or non-use of things like HRT would be caught in this process.
The medical, social, and psychological effects of actual "false transition" are enough that vanishingly few people have ever attempted such a thing, and it is extremely unlikely that many more ever will. (Notably, an attempt at gathering men willing to falsely transition for a right-wing 'documentary' proving this threat to women's sports failed to find men willing to do this, even for direct financial benefit as part of the project.) Any such athlete who DID do such a thing would exclusively be awarded for performing under their "assumed gender", meaning they would either permanently have to identify as the "false transition" to retain that credit, or they would undo their lie and be immediately outed for the scheme, which no one of any political leaning thinks well of. Where, precisely, is the motivator to do this? Do you really think anyone motivated to do this just to, like, show women up would actually be able to sneak by with it and not face repercussions?
5. Trans women... can also be bad at sports. Even if trans participation in competitive sports wasn't low by population (which it is), the likelihood of a person both being trans AND being an elite athlete is extremely small. (Probability of two outcomes occurring together is calculated by multiplying their individual probabilities together. 0.5% of the adult population of the united states identifies as trans. 0.0000017% of the population [number pulled from google] reaches the Olympics. The resulting raw probability of a trans Olympic athlete is so small my calculator wrote it in scientific notation.) It's not, like... easy to be an elite athlete. An average man cannot actually walk into a woman's basketball league or swim meet and outperform them all. A trans woman could not win purely by dint of being trans. She would also have to be an extremely dedicated, skilled, talented athlete with the correct build and physical traits for her preferred sport. And binary trans people are a tiny fraction of the population. So no, a woman's team of athletes that allowed for trans women would not be 'entirely trans women'. Accounting for trans experiences (being denied medical care, dysphoria around gendered sports, dysphoria and discomfort around their own body in comparison to cis people, the risk of bigotry and alienation), most likely, most of the time, there would be none, even with extremely lenient policies.
I get the worry about things becoming unfair. I acknowedge that by broad statistics, there are differences in physical traits between cis women and cis men, and that is part of why sex-based sporting categories were created in the first place. (The other reason being that women were originally not allowed to compete at all, and *had* to create their own leagues to gain access to competitive sport.) I also agree that some degree of vetting should occur for all athletes, and that rules of competition should exist.
But the details of your concerns are not supported by evidence. Most trans athletes, like most cis athletes, want to compete in fair competition. Vanishingly few trans people have ever been in favor of the mythical threat of random people being allowed into competitions on an honor system, or some ban on verification practices. We just want those verifications to be evidence-based and fair, and not to be treated like criminals and cheats just for being trans.
Wholesale banning trans participation either pushes them out of sports entirely (which *is* discrimination), or forces medically transitioned trans women into competition where they are disadvantaged, and medically transitioned trans men into competition where they may actually be at an advantage. That is also not a solution, and it distinctly shows a disregard for the experiences of trans people, and a devaluing of their participation in society. Public "investigations" of sex and identity for ANY athlete are invasive and usually abusive, and exclusively feed into conspiratorial 'concerns' about trans people as a demographic. They accomplish little in terms of keeping competitions fair, and punish cis women for their bodies and presentation.
I implore you to look beyond the knee-jerk "common sense" reasoning behind these concerns and, if this is a subject you are sincerely passionate about, look for research on the actual prevelance of any of these issues. All advocacy work should be informed advocacy work. I recommend also looking at the effects of medical transition, studies done on trans participation in sports, statistics regarding both false transition and people who detransition, and general athletic science, including the physical traits and anomalies common to high-performance athletes. And, of course, for all studies check the source and structure of the research done, as well as vet it for recency, peer review, and possible mitigating factors (such as geographic region, self-selection of study participants, income level, incentive structures, and social or legal factors). Watch out for confirmation and observation bias in your research especially, as a polarizing topic like this will be especially susceptible to both.
Anyway, in short-- if you support trans people, please hear us out on issues that affect us, and don't fall back on assumptions before you look into the data.
thank u so much for the closed captions king keep serving looks
13:30 “she’s a runner, she’s a track star” LMAOO
THAT TOOK ME TF OUT
you acknowledging catalan made my day omg, thank you for acknowledging our language!
The whole "beef", which was one sided, she had with Tokio Hotel who were LITERAL teenagers was insane💀💀
They were already adults, but the beef she had with them was still weird I agree
"That's a name I've not heard in a long time"
Lul I remember being in 7th grade at the time and being really angry when she insulted them cuz I was a big Tokio Hotel fangirl
she also tried to "out" bill kaulitz with that song...
She had beef with Tokio Hotel? I was a fan back then but I'm from Germany and wasn't really active in online fan spaces because I was like 11 and it was 2007 or so lol
I really hated how trisha was the only different body type in the whole video
I hate that Trisha was in the music video in the first place
she's trying to be feminist and say she's empowering but is so unwilling to say why feminism is needed. bc obviously she's sitting next to one of the reasons 💀 that's the main issue to me
She's feminist like Brock Turner said he was feminist. Young women need to understand the ability to be not fall prey to a predator with this lack of care is not a good sign of things at all. Stay away from her.
Love how Kesha is having an actual real comeback without even trying and is demonstrating she’s still relevant…whereas Perry who collaborated with Kesha’s alleged grapist is receiving her karma right in front of the whole entire world.
Right! And Kesha's Joyride is soooo good
She does have a headstart considering the most popular app is still named after one of her songs 😛
Joyride sounds so unique and fresh. That accordion slaps!
Its sounds so kesha with modern production style
@@mollusckscramp4124 what app is that? Sorry for the ignorance 😂
@@bepinkfloyd814 Kesha has a song called 'Tic Tok' that came out around 2009. It's a bit dated but ultimately enjoyable if you can ignore one of the most poorly aged lyrics in history.
Katy riding off in the helicopter after stealing the ring light gives me the Sims stories/movies vibes. The really wild ones about giant babies or whatever. lmfao.
And the one where they woohoo in the elevator with a sim who is on a different floor
@@alexv3372 lmao. There are a lot of funny/over the top Sims movies/vids. But yes. That is exactly the vibes Katy's music video gives.
She sang her simlish songs for the game
Chappell Roan came and stole her lunch.
YES SHE DID
@@davidgonzales9039 I love chappell but it's really not a contest! There's room at the table for everyone as long as they actually slay. I think even Katy Perry herself would rather listen to Chappell at this point tho😭
@sashie253 Yeah, I agree. Wish Katy would make music that was more her. This is just pandering to a demographic, it ain't it.
@sashie253 nah there's no room for people who work with r*pists.
@gipie Your statement doesn't change what I said. But cool story. She can be a fan, I can't speak for Chappell, but I assume she was a "Katycat" before working with Dr. Puke and releasing this crap. No one is a fan of this.
Matching your rabbit's outfit in this video was a flex
Great deep dive as always!
22:01 i love this school we’ve been having seminars a lot lately it’s great
"Settled out of court" means Dr. Luke was guilty but didn't want his name smeared publicly so he agreed to "settle" with Ke$ha for an undisclosed sum for her to basically drop it.
The fact that Taylor Swift donated a bunch of money to Ke$ha's legal fund speaks volumes. Swift is an industry insider so she knows details about Dr. Luke and his behavior that have not been made available to the general public.
When you settle a case you're not necessarily guilty. You just want the lawsuit out of your life.
He might have wanted to skip diacovery where other things could have come to light. but you simpletons could not grasp the concept of a lawsuit in its entirety
You do realize wanting to skip discovery makes him look even worse, right?
Dr. Luke wasn't the one on trial 😂 wtf are you talking about? They settled out of court on the premise that Kesha publicly retracts her statement. She didn't get paid anything and she didn't have to agree to a settlement. She was the one on trial who had to prove her innocence. She's the one who settled because she's guilty 😂😂😂
@@FrankRonGerards guilty of what?
saw someone say that katy might've written women's world for the barbie movie, but they rejected it so she just released it 🙂↕️
BINGO.
It really comes off like a Barbie song. That movie was trash even though it got praised out the ass. (Margot Robie was good tho.)
@paulthomas963 barbie wasn't trash,at all, it was one of the good feminist movies that exist,and katy's song wouldn't make sense since the message of barbie isn't " it's women's world" at all
@@paulthomas963 stay mad barbie was a critical and commercial success
@@paulthomas963 Barbie was one of the few comedies where i actually laughed at most of the parts they wanted me to laugh at. my fiance felt the same and i think he went into it not wanting to like the movie. He loves comedies, I love horror, but we both felt it, and Margot Robbie, nailed the humor.
According to Wikipedia, Perry’s hits still score pretty well in New Zealand. I would suggest her to go on tour in the country where Lord Of The Rings was made.
Katy Perry went from being the second artist in history after Michael Jackson to have 5 billboard hot 100 number one songs on a single album, to not even being able to hit the top SIXTY with Woman’s World. The fall off is INSANE.
brat is the worst album ever made silence
@@BlueBrickFilms bro 💀
@@BlueBrickFilmsNo it isn’t, stop trying so hard.
It’s been down hill for her since an elderly nun said “Katy Perry please stop” then dropped dead in court.
WHAT????? 😭😭😭
This can't be real 💀
is this real 😭😭😭
No because this literally has to be made up omg
wait wtf this is fr 😭 i thought this was a copypasta meme
I loved Kylie Minogue's 2000s comeback, it was so futuristic for its era, fun well-made and honestly Katy should've taken notes💀
That wasn't even a comeback to 10-year-old me, it was a brand new era of pop, full-stop. And she's still going strong today while still remaining a decent person (at least from what I know.) Katy dominated for 5-10 years with what felt like 4 hits; Kylie's been at it for around 40 years with countless bangers.
This is the first video I've watched of yours, D'Angelo! I like your speaking style. Subscribed. 🙂
10:12 I don't think the tweet was literally commenting on her age but on the fact that, she's been in this industry for years and has already made it big and successful, if anyone is in a position to take artistic liberties and try something new, it would be her.
Just working with Dr Luke is disgusting and shouldn't be excused.
I've seen people say "give Trisha some grace, I didn't know what happened with Kesha until 2 weeks ago.
These women are over 30 years old AND they are celebrities. And Trisha surrounds her career and platforms with celebrity worship and praise with no research.
What happened to Kesha was on the news, i remember it being on all of my social media accounts.
They have no excuse to be silent or "ignorant".
0:33 "this is going to ruin the tour" pleaseee, I am still not over that incident 😂
Hard same, I think about it DAILY 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@banquetoftheleviathan1404 The world tour
@@joannamarieart who's tour?
I will NEVER be over this 😂
im afraid to ask but can somebody fill me in
thank u so much for adding captions
We’re living in a time where we have Chappell, Billie and Charli. She could’ve started making mom music like Pink and call it a day but instead she chose her downfall 😭
Or she could've tried to actually slay like Kylie Minogue, even if she didn't totally succeed the honest attempt would have been respectable at least. She's just embarrassing herself by acting like an untouchable legend when she's really just a pop girlie who didn't even bother to notice that she's gone way past her prime
That's the best description of Pink and I cannot erase it from my brain now.
Again I think the ageism is grotesque. And your comment boils it down perfectly.
Mom music???? Ok rude little child.
the ppl being offended are so funny, wait till they hear about “divorced dad music”