Kylo Ren's such a great character. You already know in one movie that he is a conflicted character, not as powerful as people think he is, and is also a murderous asshole! This scene was so well written and executed because Han Solo was still the same guy we know and love but we saw a side of him no one else knew. We can tell he loves his son no matter what even when he is stabbed. Hell when he touched his face before he fell we knew that Han is accepting his fate and Ben is still his boy.
Neither do I. Han lived on his own terms, so it seems fitting that he dictate the terms by which he dies. Khan, from Star Trek: Into Darkness said this: "Is there anything you would not do for your family?" He asked this to Captain Kirk, who would (SPOILER ALERT) die to save the lives of a lot of people. Ben Solo asked Han a similar question: "I know what I have to do, but I don't know if I have the strength to do it. Will you help me?" Han Solo's reply: "Yes. Anything."
+Stephanie Mitchell I don't know, for once, I really want a villain who should not get redemption or even wants it. Kylo should just get more and more evil as these films go along until he's inevitably cut down once and for all. You don't just go and kill Han Solo and get redeemed!
+BloodyFlowerFilms Kylo has been groomed for exploitation by Snoke since birth. If an abused child doesn't deserve redemption, I don't know who does. Besides that, he's the last Skywalker. If he dies, their legacy dies with him.
Damn, Star Wars comments is always filled with people spewing obvious shit that we all know already but there are still imbeciles out there that act like what he said was an intelligent find.
And that's the irony of Anakin's turning - he ended up killing he love of his life to stay with the dark side, and never even saw his family as a result
God that would have been the hardest on Chewie, having to watch your best friend die to then be forced to decide whether or not to shoot his son or not.
I love the symbolism in the lighting. Half of his face is lit in red and the other half in blue, representing his confliction between the light and the dark. And then after he kills Han, all of his face is lit in red, because he chose the dark. It's very subtle but it's brilliant.
I love how you see Kylo Ren's face there is half light side and half a dark side on, then when he stabs his father it's like all red. That is brilliant!
Notice the Blue and red lights shining on Kylo Ren's face. It shows how conflicted he is from the inside. Then when the blue light disappeared from his face, the red light takes over.
I like Ben's facial expression at 3:20. Instead of not caring about what he did at all, he realizes "holy crap, I just killed my own father." That is some good acting right there.
Tbh, I still don’t think he killed Han. We don’t see his hand press the button. I think Han pressed it for him so that his son couldn’t have the choice. So that instead of Ben killing Han and falling more in the dark, he instead sees his father die and feels guilt for wanting to do it himself.
the only reason why Kylo Ren killed Han Solo its because Harrison Ford wanted his character to die since the first trilogy... well his wish was granted.
Tired of the role trapping him. Though, not to burst everyone's bubble, but Ford will reprise his role, in some form (flashback or Force ghost--probably the previous) in Episode VIII.
Kyo instantly felt remorse and you can see it in his reaction. Han finally showed Kylo the empathy and mercy that he’s always longed for. Kylo felt it all cease in front of him by his own hand under the circumstances of his own conflict. He looks devastated.
@Jon Dillon are you joking right? What about the scene at the very end with him kneeling on the ground crying while holding his father dices, he's thinking about what he has done in multiple instances throughout tlj
@Jon Dillon What? There were multiple scenes showing how it affected Kylo. His last scene in TLJ as, @AKAE DE DEVAL mentioned, heavily emphasized it. The shroud of Kylo's patricide and the emotional devastation it caused permeates damn near every scene he has in TLJ. You can say what you want about TLJ, but I think it was the best movie in the trilogy when it comes to Kylo's characterization.
+iiGalaxyPlayz _YT Hes in the next movie but most likely a flashback because theres no way he survived that the stab yea then falling but he is in 8 i think for a flashback
I remember the reaction of theater audience. I looked down in front of my row and saw an older man crying silently for the rest of the movie. A girl next to me had her face buried in her arms for a long time as well. Such a sad ending for one of the most iconic film characters in history.
The image of Han Solo's hand upon his son's face, signaling that Han still loves him despite having just been murdered by him, will haunt Ben Solo for the rest of his life.
Vader: "Anakin Skywalker was weak! I have destroyed him!" Kylo Ren: "Your son is gone. He was weak and foolish like his father. And so I destroyed him!" Anyone else seeing a pattern here?
Daniel Lliteras to be fair Kylo did a way better job than Vader did also when basically wiped out your past life you would probably consider it dead or gone
The entire time I watched this scene I was thinking Han's going to die, Han's going to die. I saw them hug and I was like ok maybe not. Then the lightsaber came and I was like nevermind
He spent this whole time lamenting how he could never live up to Vader, how he was weak compared to his grandfather, He knew he was inferior. Yet he did what Vader could not, He resisted the call to the Light. Vader could not kill Luke, Kylo killed Han. Fucking Marvelous.
This was a whole different scenario. Vader would have killed Luke if the battle continued. Kylo killed his father through manipulation. Plus he was unarmed. How was he fucking marvelous? He was actually cowardice.
marquis westly it's in act of story telling. Him wanting to be out of Vader's shadow. Killing is father and killing any hope of turning back to the light of the force. To far gone
DarnChaCha It's actually the other way around, Vader is strong and Kylo is weak. Kylo gave in to the dark side, Vader resisted it and broke free from it's grip. In the end, Kylo remains a slave of the dark side, and Vader breaks free from it's grip.
It gets even sadder when you read about what else happened in this scene in the novel. (Quote): " _At first, Han didn’t feel anything except a piercing heat in his chest. Then his lungs didn’t work. His heart stopped beating. His legs wobbled. He lost his feet. The fiery blade sank deeper. And he knew that this time, this impossible situation was one Chewie couldn’t save him from. In the last few seconds of his life, he thought of the Falcon and his furry first mate and his beautiful princess, but he saw only his son. The darkness in his eyes. And the sadness. Han forgave his son for what he had done. He prayed someday his son would forgive him in turn._ " The saddest part is when Han feels his son's face for the last time, and you can see Han forgave his son in his dying breath. My feels man.
ya, is that what it actually said in the novelization of The Force Awakens? I haven't read it yet but heard about it from someone on Facebook, i'm still eager and desperate to know the origin of Snoke, his background and where he came from
Does anyone notice the way that the camera is behind Han (facing Kylo) that there is a division of blue (on Han side) and red (on Kylo/Ben side) color, and once the sun is blocked the whole room turns red. That's when poor Han dies. :( Does that resemble the light and dark side?
@@christianschmidt8476 The cinematography is overdone. They use the blue and red, the fading star and the red lighting to symbolise him turning to the dark. It's incredibly amateur. Feels like the cinematographer wanted to practice all three but only had a single scene to do it. Just pick one. Also the cloud-covered sun fading out is lifted straight from Revenge of the Sith. Might want to rethink that statement Schmidt.
Kylo's face right before that looks as though he's... searching for something. Forgiveness, perhaps? Han putting his hand on Kylo's cheek probably told him "It's alright. You're still my boy. I love you son...." to paraphrase you, sir.
Solus 2016 Well, we know that Kylo is very sensitive to the Force. Particularly he seems to be something of an empath. Able to feel thoughts and emotion very strongly. I think it's safe to say that on some deep level, Kylo had felt abandoned by his father, so maybe that look is one of surprise and a kind of wonder or awe or both, because at that moment after the stab, I think he can feel the truth.... that his father does love him, and pehaps is sorry that he wasn't there for him like he should have been. In any case, I believe that his father's love, combined with regret and remorse over what he did here, may combine to help Kylo Ren to become Ben Skywalker-Solo once again, as he gradually turns back to the Light Side of the Force.
+janesgems7 Exactly! The most famous, stupid, plastic, egoist, alcoholist hollywood actors are maybe perfect outside but empty inside. Have sex with 7888 different plastic, brainless dolls, tell everything about their private life to get lots of money. Adam is an artist, kind,talented and against this he is still shy in a good way, protects his private life, has an alive, normal, natural-looking wife, and his beauty comes from his inside, because he is very rich inside, and I find him incedibly handsome, he is adorable!
+janesgems7 Exactly! The most famous, stupid, plastic, egoist, alcoholist hollywood actors are maybe perfect outside but empty inside. Have sex with 7888 different plastic, brainless dolls, tell everything about their private life to get lots of money. Adam is an artist, kind,talented and against this he is still shy in a good way, protects his private life, has an alive, normal, natural-looking wife, and his beauty comes from his inside, because he is very rich inside, and I find him incedibly handsome, he is adorable!
i am extremelly fascinated by his face, his left side is smooth perfection and looks to have thin lips and a proportioned nose, his right side changes the game completely being raw proportioned and with a harsh expression...reminds me of how Fords face can look angry and happy taking halves
Yeah. I honestly gives no shits about the sequels, but I still liked Kylo Ren. Such an entertaining character, and the actor is actually pretty good, despite how garbage I find the movies.
np, but it makes the comment section only more of a dangerous place for me, especially now that a part of Star Wars :Rouge one got ruined for me also, due to a actor spoiling it at the celebration reel. I won't say it though, since unlike a few specific people, I have a brain.
SJMJ91 kylo ren is how anakin should have been portrayed. I don't completely blame haydensen though. Saw a documentary on the making of the prequels. Every time haydensen had ideas on what anakin should say or how he should deliver a line, Lucas said no just read it the way I wrote it. Lucas killed the prequels. Probably could have been way better if he wasn't a control freak.
Honestly, my perfect version of Anakin would be Chris Hemsworth pretty much as he is when he play Thor. Blonde, big, imposing and the way he talks. You could believe him going into the suit and being overpowering with his lightsaber/force power!
What I love about the bridge scene is that, there has never been this much doubt and conflict within a Dark sider who has already committed to the Dark side before. Vader decided to come back in the end, but I am anxious how Ben would turn out.
The OT will always be my favorite, overall, but Kylo's "I'm being torn apart" and Obi-Wan's "You were my brother, Anakin" monologues are the most emotionally compelling moments in all of SW. I get chills every damn time. Even if I'm just casually watching them in the background, everything stops during those moments.
When you see this for the first time you'll think that Kylo Ren is saying that the dark side is the pain that he feels but when he kills Han you'll realize that it was the light side that was the pain. Such a great scene and I will miss you Han solo.
also.... when they are holding the lightsaber it is Han turning it against himself not Kylo. I think Han understood what Kylo meant by not being strong enough to "do it" and he decided to take control
Han was thinking they both were talking about bringing Kylo out of the dark side, while Kylo was actually talking about taking the next step to the dark side
How this scene should have ended; Han:"Son, return to the light" Kylo: "Eat my shorts!" Han: "Why you little!!!"(Starts to choke Kylo) After that, Han and Chewie takes unconscious Kylo on Millenium Falcon, blows up Starkiller, and returns back on resistance base-planet. Then, Han reunites with Lea and gives her a nice smooch(like in the old days) and they all go visit Luke. And in the last shot, when Luke turns around, he sees all his friends. Han: "How you doin kid ?" The End.
Jesus Christ Adam driver is such an amazing actor for kylo ren. Like the line "I'm being torn apart" he just said LIKE SO FUCKING GOOD I CANT EVEN EXPLAIN IT.
You know what I just noticed. After Han falls the camera shows kylo's face. Towards the end of the shot you can sort of see his lips moving. Then the next shot we see Leia react. Could kylo have communicated with Leia through the force in some way?
+DAANStudios No, when he opened his mouth a bit and his eyes widened, that was him sensing that killing his father didn't lessen his inner torment of his light battling his dark like what Snoke made it out to be. He was severly emotionally weakened by it, needing anger at Finn and punching his wounds for pain to fuel the dark in him. Leia has a natural sense of the force, so being closely bonded to Han most of her life, she could feel it herself when his essence left the universe.
I love it that Han looks him dead in the eyes when he grabs his lightsaber. I think he knew it was coming so he looked his son in the eyes as in to say “when you kill me you look at me.”
Honestly, what if Han activated the Lightsaber and killed himself? He knows Snoke wants his son to kill him, and Ben tells him that he doesn't have the strength to do it. Ben never says it, but I think Han knows what he means. So, he helps his son kill him. But why would Han do that? To get his son to turn away from the Dark Side. If Kylo Ren kills him without assistance, his journey towards the Dark Side will be complete. But if Han does it, then there is still good in him. This is probably not the last time we see Han Solo. He might show up in a dream sequence, or a hologram recording, or maybe Rey comes close to death and meets Han, who tells her how to speak with people who can't be Force Ghosts. That would be acceptable.
Very interesting point! It'd be a lot more intriguing if what you said actually happens, but I unfortunately think Kylo's gonna end up redeeming himself by killing Snoke while sacrificing himself.
I grew up with Han Solo being one of my favourite icons. You can imagine my reaction to seeing this happen in the cinema. Even though I predicated it would happen I still held onto hope that it wouldn't.
Chubaca's reaction= Star Wars and Han Solo's Fan's reaction. Finn's reaction= Non geek people that never saw this moment comming just like the spoilers from the original tralogy. Rey's reaction= Star Wars fan girl's reaction. My reaction in the first time= In shock almost like Finn. Harrison Ford's reaction: Finaly, my wish came true! =)
Yeah. Everyone gasped in the cinema. I mean it was packed and people just started shouting in shock. There were some very ardent Star Wars fans there. There were definitely no desiccated people there. Huge shock. A part of culture died when Hans died.
Cause he thought his father was what was pulling him to the light side and keeping him conflicted. Killing him would make staying on the dark side easier.. So he thought. He actually doesn't get stronger cause of this but he gets weaker.
I think this scene is pivotal in Kylo's character, Han is the last bit of light left in Kylo's way to become fully seduced by the dark side of the force. Hence the beam of white light behind Han and Kylo is very much in the dark. You can see the instant regret in his eyes after Kylo kills Han. ❤️ Adam Driver is an amazing actor!
The beauty of it is that it's set up to seem like Kylo's plea to Han is a cry for help to shake off the Dark Side and Snoke's influence...and then you notice how the light is being blotted out in the background, and how Kylo isn't letting go of that lightsaber... ...And then the fatal moment comes, and you realize that Kylo wasn't asking Han to save him. He was asking Han to seal his turn to darkness by letting him destroy the last real chance he'll probably have to redeem himself without dying in the process.
He is, because by the time the last film comes around he'll be as iconic as Vader but in a totally different way. I still don't think he's completely lost though - not only did he feel remorse but Han forgave him; this scene wouldn't have been half as powerful if he hadn't stroked his face at the end.
My feelings changed since I first saw it. At first I was emotionally devastated for Han, but now I also feel it for Ben. The fact that the evil forces behind things like the First Order require your soul, not just your service, is terrifying. They perform mind games, testing loyalty in the cruelest ways. After this act Snoke trusts his loyalty enough to finish training him, never before, because he knows Ben has the capacity for compassion, the very thing that caused Vader to betray his master. If you can divorce him from his compassion, you can win yourself a devoted slave to the dark. Thing Snoke doesn't realize is that it didn't have the effect on Ben he was hoping for. If anything, he's closer to the light after facing the love and forgiveness of his father during his darkest, most treacherous moment. Much respect to Han. He gave his son the one thing that will save him in the end, and will most likely come to fruition when he faces the demise of his mother.
My feelings haven't changed but at the same time they have. Let me explain. When I first watched Han die in the theatre I felt nothing...that's right I didn't feel anything when Han died. Mostly because I saw it coming from a mile away so there was no surprise to it. If anything I was irritated but that happened after the movie not because he died but because it was so obvious and the build up was poor. They could have done it much better. Now though I just don't care. I still feel nothing when I watch this but I just don't care enough to get frustrated this time.
+ShadowJedi Well, okay then. lewl. To be honest, almost everyone sensed it coming, but we sat there with a sense of dread in the pit of our stomachs while we waited, daring to hope against all odds. Our dread intensified the moment the light died and bathed Kylo in red. The foreshadowing along the way was intentional, meant to build our emotional responses. From dread, to a glimmer of hope, to fear and incredulity, to grief, to anger, and some of us even experienced empathy for Kylo at his father's forgiveness. It was really well done and the acting was phenomenal, but I guess it can't please everyone.
I understand, that just didn't happen for me. All I'm gonna say is episode 7 wasn't that good and I hope the new director and his team makes episode 8 better. Also did you mean to say lol? Because if not then what does lewl mean?
The force awakens should be seen as an "How to revive an old franchise and make almost everyone happy" The Last Jedi should be seen as an "How to brilliantly make a sequel that makes the franchise fresh and new, while also starting discussions." It really is a legendary movie. If you like the movie or not, but it's 4,5 years old and people still heavily talk about it. The Rise of Skywalker should be seen as an "How to make a finale to a trilogy, that makes people feel good but eventually no one's completely happy with it because you tried to pander to the fans and haters of the movies before."
John Lungo yep he is like Darth Vader, he is sensitive and has some good in him, I believe he felt a chill in his spine and pain to his soul for doing that cause the dark force is using him like it used Anakin and made tricks into his mind
There's also another thing most people don't consider: Kylo Ren can't go renounce the First Order because then he'd be a dead man. The First Order will hunt him down and kill him for treason/desertion and because Snoke won't allow a trained Force-user to run around unchecked, and Republic will surely execute him for all the crimes he has committed. Kylo is stuck where he is.
Look at his face when Han falls, he never wanted to kill his father but he had to BECAUSE... to become a Sith Lord you have to kill someone that you love. I think that Ben had decided to infiltrate the First Order to bring it down but he had to be noticed by Supreme Leader first, so he betrayed his Uncle and dismantled the new Jedi order. Once Snoke took him on as Kylo Ren, Snoke still sensed the light in him and Kylo knew this, and so did Han. Han knew what he was doing and he knew he would have to be the help his son to get close to Snoke so he could destroy him. I hope this turns out to be the case so that Kylo can be redeemed similar to Anakin.
I like to think that Han and Leia were distant parents. Han is still a free spirit, always looking for trouble around the corner, and Leia is a princess so practically everything is political. It's hard to think that your childhood heroes ended up being shitty parents, but maybe it's not all Ben's fault.
Would have been much more powerful if this was also the Moment when Kylo first reveals his Face....i mean, when he done that infront of Rey, it was just fucking hilarious...
yeah not gonna lie i chuckled when I saw it and knew instantly I was going to have to back it up anyway to friends I have that aren't huge star wars geeks like me and would shit on that scene
Why did you do it, Kylo? How could you kill your own Father, betray the New Republic and the New Jedi Order? How could you stand by and watch the First Order kill millions of innocent lives. Your Grandfather fell to the Dark Side because he only wanted to prevent the one he cared about from death his emotions blinded him. But when he saw your uncle being tortured by the Emperor the illusion was broken he finished what he should've done at the end of the Clone Wars, by killing the Emperor he met his destiny as the Chosen One. He fulfilled the Jedi's prophecy and saved your uncle's life at the cost of his own. Darth Vader was nothing more than a shroud of Darkness that consumed Anakin Skywalker. You belong with your Family and the Light Side of the Force.
If you continue to give Snoke what he wants from you he'll stab you in the back. You are not Kylo Ren, you are Ben Solo. The Son of 2 Heroes that saved the Galaxy from the Empire's wrath. If you don't turn to the Light Side you'll regret what you have done to serve the crumbling remains of the Galactic Empire. The Sith only see you and hundreds of their servants as expendable who will do nothing but fight for reasons they don't understand and causes they don't believe in and die for it all all the same. Destroy the Sith, it's what your Grandfather would want, you do not want to make the same mistake he made.
Joseph Barnes this is why I love KYLO REN! even though starkiller Base was destroyed he broke the heroes spirits!! This was downright evil and the best moment of the movie. Kyle is gonna make these traitors suffer and bring darkness on everyone!!!! 😈😈😈
Well, could be brainwash of the first order and he never really understood the backstory of Darth Vader, but who he was known before he returned to the light.
"I trust no one. Assume everyone will betray you and you will never be disappointed." -Tobias Beckett to Han Solo in 10 BBY 44 years later Han Solo gets killed by his own son
I was watching this in cinemas with my mate and my dad, which were both so excited for this. This scene was so dramatic. The silentness, and i was clenching the chair and my heart was pounding. When it happened, 50% of me expected it, as the sunlight above faded before Hans death, which signifies darkness in Kylos eyes as he kills his own dad. I was pretty upset, seeing an important childhood figure wiped out, and the pain in Chewies and Leias hearts when Han died made me even more sad, seeing your friend or husband die, so sad, but an awesome movie, comes 2nd out of 7 movies
I'm just curious, what did you think about the ST as a whole? Personally, I loved Ep. 7 and 8, but Ep.9 was so shit that it retroactively ruined the trilogy for me
I do think Kylo is being set up for a redemption arc, but I hope it's different than Vader's. I don't want Ben to die like his grandfather. He should turn back to the Light Side of the Force and help to rebuild the new generation of Jedi that he had once destroyed.
I totally agree!! I just have that feeling that Kylo Ren will die at the end of the trilogy but I hope that he doesn't!! Yes, I want him to be redeemed but, in a way that is new and fresh and not done before with just a slight hint of nostalgia and parallels. I also hope Rey is not a Skywalker -- whether through Luke or Leia. I just feel like if she and Kylo Ren and Rey are siblings or cousins, and she's somehow tied to his redemption -- -then I feel that it would be too similar to how Vader was redeemed because of his familial ties to Luke. You know?
Rakel Grace Well, that really depends on how they do it. My own thoughts go like this: We know that Anakin fell because of romantic love for Padme, plus through the trickery of Darth Sidious (Palpatine). It took the love of family to bring Anakin back. Luke helped him. I've long felt that Ben (Kylo) fell because of what he felt was a lack of love from his family, and a "messed up" family life. Snoke probably took advantage of this. So maybe we'll get a reversal. The same romantic love that "doomed" Anakin may help save Ben. In the prequels, the romance was between Anakin and Padme. In the original movies, it involved Han Solo and Anakin's daughter Leia. Both romances involved a Skywalker, and we know that Kylo Ren (Ben Solo) IS a Skywalker by blood because Leia is his mother. So, maybe this time we'll get Ben and Rey as the romantic "heart" of this story. At the same time, I think Kylo should become Ben again and turn back to the Light Side of the Force due to his own regret and remorse over killing his father. Knowing that his father loved him, that love should make a big difference. Han should ultimately succeed in helping to bring Ben home, even though he had to die to achieve it.
Rakel Grace Also, I don't think Rey is a Skywalker because that would take all the struggle that Kylo is going through and would make it meaningless. If Rey is Skywalker number two, then it doesn't matter what happens to Ben, the Skywalker family will be okay. If Ben is the only new Skywalker, then he must return to the Light Side of the Force or the family will end in darkness, tragically. There are much higher stakes. I think it would be better if Rey somehow turned out to be the grand-daughter of Obi-Wan Kenobi. Both families have been connected throughout the other two trilogies, with the Kenobis always guiding and helping the Skywalkers.
I remember the theater letting out a collective gasp of shock....and then.....silence........ Incredibly powerful scene seeing Han Solo impaled and fall.
Kylo never wanted to kill his father, he was so deeply immersed in the dark side and afraid of what Snoke could do to him. Han wanted to spare Ben the grief of having to kill him, so he (possibly) activated the Lightsaber.
Imagine if before the final battle between Obi Wan and Anakin they had an emotional scene like this, presented with the visuals, instead of YOu TuRneD hEr AGaiNsT mE YOu have DoNE ThaT yOuRsElF
The acting and the cinematography in this scene are really well done. The lighting between the light and the dark, and Adam Driver playing Kylo Ren so well. It’s awesome, really.
Kylo Ren's such a great character. You already know in one movie that he is a conflicted character, not as powerful as people think he is, and is also a murderous asshole! This scene was so well written and executed because Han Solo was still the same guy we know and love but we saw a side of him no one else knew. We can tell he loves his son no matter what even when he is stabbed. Hell when he touched his face before he fell we knew that Han is accepting his fate and Ben is still his boy.
Yes, and exactly the reason his death will have a direct impact on his sons redemption. I don't believe Hans death was for naught.
Neither do I. Han lived on his own terms, so it seems fitting that he dictate the terms by which he dies.
Khan, from Star Trek: Into Darkness said this: "Is there anything you would not do for your family?"
He asked this to Captain Kirk, who would (SPOILER ALERT) die to save the lives of a lot of people.
Ben Solo asked Han a similar question: "I know what I have to do, but I don't know if I have the strength to do it. Will you help me?"
Han Solo's reply: "Yes. Anything."
+Stephanie Mitchell I don't know, for once, I really want a villain who should not get redemption or even wants it. Kylo should just get more and more evil as these films go along until he's inevitably cut down once and for all. You don't just go and kill Han Solo and get redeemed!
+BloodyFlowerFilms Kylo has been groomed for exploitation by Snoke since birth. If an abused child doesn't deserve redemption, I don't know who does. Besides that, he's the last Skywalker. If he dies, their legacy dies with him.
Stephanie Mitchell No. There is another- and her name is REY.
“Take off that shirt you don’t need it”
“What do you think you’ll see if I do”
“The Gains of my son”
Brilliant!
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lmao isnt this fuckers chest HUUUGE. teach me master.
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Anakin turned to the dark side in order to save his family; Kylo Ren killed his family in order to turn to the dark side
Good observation.
How is he going to over power rey?
Damn, Star Wars comments is always filled with people spewing obvious shit that we all know already but there are still imbeciles out there that act like what he said was an intelligent find.
And that's the irony of Anakin's turning - he ended up killing he love of his life to stay with the dark side, and never even saw his family as a result
Its like poetry, it rhymes
I love his dorky voice. He puts up the Vader act, but inside he's just a scared child. I love it
thats what makes his character so interestin
@@grumbu5 unlike rey
He didn’t need the voice but the mask is pretty cool
@@Jellybean_Enthusiast bruh facts!!! 😂😂😂
@Generic Name he is very monotone, I wouldn't say whiny. More like an emo.
Han: I love you.
Kylo: I know
You...me...there’s still light in him. I know it.
Kylo:"I hate you!"
Han:"You were my son Ben, i loved you"
Zak Rosenfeld this has kind of aged well
Kylo: dad...
Han: (smile) i know.
Mr. Nope The Cat 😭😭😭
God that would have been the hardest on Chewie, having to watch your best friend die to then be forced to decide whether or not to shoot his son or not.
manofthetardis shot his son pretty quickly
If I were Chewie, I would have killed Kylo in a heartbeat.
Toby G same
Yeah but Disney doesn’t give a shit about Chewies feelings.
Whether or not to do or not
"It's not a phase, dad!
Chris E FLores I love this
Toon sandwich?
It totally was.
In the end it was lol
Emo is REAL dad-uh!
I love the symbolism in the lighting. Half of his face is lit in red and the other half in blue, representing his confliction between the light and the dark. And then after he kills Han, all of his face is lit in red, because he chose the dark. It's very subtle but it's brilliant.
The RISE of Skywalker...
"very subtle"
They did that with Luke in return of the Jedi, too
@@saintarthador4922 no they didn't
I guess Han Solo would have been on the dark side
Jesus Adam Driver is such a good actor
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I love how you see Kylo Ren's face there is half light side and half a dark side on, then when he stabs his father it's like all red. That is brilliant!
Also notice how Han Solos face is red when he said he would help Kylo
Just like when Vader was tormenting Luke by saying that he would corrupt Leia.
+Jeremy Rivers yea I remember that
+carterslave yea than this is what he gets for helping him :(
Still a shitty character. Not even close to the brilliance of Vader.
As soon as the light changed I knew it was gonna happen
Notice the Blue and red lights shining on Kylo Ren's face. It shows how conflicted he is from the inside.
Then when the blue light disappeared from his face, the red light takes over.
As soon as he walked on the bridge I knew it would happen
Me too but in the theater I was still like “NO PLEASE NO NO
Honestly whenever you see a endless chasm in Star Wars, you know something bad’s going to happen
@Random Realistic Tone if you’ve taken any sort of film class you’d know that. Even just a film critic you’d know that.
I like Ben's facial expression at 3:20. Instead of not caring about what he did at all, he realizes "holy crap, I just killed my own father." That is some good acting right there.
He became one with the force in the end of rise of sky walker
Tbh, I still don’t think he killed Han. We don’t see his hand press the button. I think Han pressed it for him so that his son couldn’t have the choice. So that instead of Ben killing Han and falling more in the dark, he instead sees his father die and feels guilt for wanting to do it himself.
@@mystics1ay3r17nice theory
@@sugestive371right (July 7th,2023 and July 13th,2023/🙂).
the only reason why Kylo Ren killed Han Solo its because Harrison Ford wanted his character to die since the first trilogy... well his wish was granted.
normalgirlcvco or bc that's part of the story and this was supposed to happen lol
Alex Roach he genuinely wanted to be killed off since the Original Trilogy though..
Ang chullili I don't think he really likes Star Wars
Why doesn't he like Star Wars movies.
Tired of the role trapping him. Though, not to burst everyone's bubble, but Ford will reprise his role, in some form (flashback or Force ghost--probably the previous) in Episode VIII.
Greedo has been avenged, and now he'll shoot Han first all he wants in the afterlife.
and Boba.
You know Han is gonna be as big of smart ass if not bigger in hell
+Jonathan Rangel Hell doesn't exist in Star Wars, mate.
Yeah it exists, it's called Episode 1
Serial Crepeist
Episode 1 is better then people give it credit.
When he says "im being torn apart" thats when the tears start to kick in
YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA!
Mr Rieper haha
Every time
@@JudgeBane same quality of writing
I find it so ironic now that Han died and Leia's still alive in TFA, but in real life they switched places.
That is really sad ;-;
Wyldstylez Well to be fair Harrison Ford wanted them to kill Han Solo. But I agree it is ironic
Wyldstylez yep
Too soon.
bruh too soon. imao
Kyo instantly felt remorse and you can see it in his reaction. Han finally showed Kylo the empathy and mercy that he’s always longed for. Kylo felt it all cease in front of him by his own hand under the circumstances of his own conflict. He looks devastated.
@Irritable Jon Syndrome thanks rian.
@Jon Dillon are you joking right? What about the scene at the very end with him kneeling on the ground crying while holding his father dices, he's thinking about what he has done in multiple instances throughout tlj
@Jon Dillon What? There were multiple scenes showing how it affected Kylo. His last scene in TLJ as, @AKAE DE DEVAL mentioned, heavily emphasized it. The shroud of Kylo's patricide and the emotional devastation it caused permeates damn near every scene he has in TLJ. You can say what you want about TLJ, but I think it was the best movie in the trilogy when it comes to Kylo's characterization.
Luke’s mere mention of his father sends Kylo into a murderous rage. It’s clear the act affected him deeply
@@akaededeval374 m8 what are you talking about. Rewatch the scene with the dices there was not a single tear in his eyes.
I don't think this scene would pack half as much of a punch if it wasn't for the bit where Han stroked his son's cheek..
Forgiveness
I agree it's almost like he's telling Ben it'll be ok as a father would do to a little boy
He forgave him.
Han Solo forgave his son, so he wouldn't be consumed by the dark side.
do you think Kylo could still be redeemed? I hope he can be.
+Acid Skies but he still has the audacity to say "Han Solo can't save you" right before he tries to slice up Finn and Rey
+Cameron Kaminski no Ben Solo died on that bridge with his father
... Happy Father's Day?
Exactly
+Kylo Ren you killed one of my favourites! 😡😡😡
+iiGalaxyPlayz _YT had to or else death
+iiGalaxyPlayz _YT Hes in the next movie but most likely a flashback because theres no way he survived that the stab yea then falling but he is in 8 i think for a flashback
lol
I remember the reaction of theater audience. I looked down in front of my row and saw an older man crying silently for the rest of the movie. A girl next to me had her face buried in her arms for a long time as well. Such a sad ending for one of the most iconic film characters in history.
That old man grew old with han
It's Han's hand on Ben's face that really did it. A beautiful detail.
The image of Han Solo's hand upon his son's face, signaling that Han still loves him despite having just been murdered by him, will haunt Ben Solo for the rest of his life.
His very short life
Vader: "Anakin Skywalker was weak! I have destroyed him!"
Kylo Ren: "Your son is gone. He was weak and foolish like his father. And so I destroyed him!"
Anyone else seeing a pattern here?
He wants to be like his grandfather I guess....down to the last syllable.
Daniel Lliteras to be fair Kylo did a way better job than Vader did
also when basically wiped out your past life you would probably consider it dead or gone
you must know shit about star wars, Vader is a killing machine
histatimaniples Thats not the point. Vader couldnt brkng himself to kill Luke. Ren killed his father
Luuk van der Borgh
but at the same time, you saw his face after he did it.....
I've never noticed, but Han before dying caressed Kylo Ren where he now has the scar...
I just realized that! A physical mark of how torn apart Kylo/Ben is. That's clever.
Chewie's reaction says it all.
He'll have known Ben when he was younger so that probably made it even worse to see his best friend killed by his own son.
I nearly bawled..a 30 year old man bawling in a theatre bout sums me up lol
I felt nothing till Chewie started screaming.
The entire time I watched this scene I was thinking Han's going to die, Han's going to die. I saw them hug and I was like ok maybe not. Then the lightsaber came and I was like nevermind
Ikr
Yeah except they never hug
I felt exactly the same
I didn't see it coming. I thought Ffs this is gonna be a soppy redemption story and then boom that happened lol
lol me too cosmo, that's exactly how I reacted.
2020 Coronavirus:
Boomer: Take off that mask, you don't need it.
Millenial: *Stab*
I don’t get it
@@theleanbusinessman5431 Then you don;t need to worry about it
🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🤫
am i the only who saw tears in kylo's eyes?
nope
He spent this whole time lamenting how he could never live up to Vader, how he was weak compared to his grandfather, He knew he was inferior. Yet he did what Vader could not, He resisted the call to the Light. Vader could not kill Luke, Kylo killed Han.
Fucking Marvelous.
interesting that will be important in the next one
This was a whole different scenario. Vader would have killed Luke if the battle continued. Kylo killed his father through manipulation. Plus he was unarmed. How was he fucking marvelous? He was actually cowardice.
marquis westly it's in act of story telling. Him wanting to be out of Vader's shadow. Killing is father and killing any hope of turning back to the light of the force. To far gone
DarnChaCha It's actually the other way around, Vader is strong and Kylo is weak. Kylo gave in to the dark side, Vader resisted it and broke free from it's grip. In the end, Kylo remains a slave of the dark side, and Vader breaks free from it's grip.
Will M Strength in this context is subjective. Light Side vs Dark Side could easily be seen as a case of Strength of Will vs Strength of Form.
3:37
That wookie for,"YOU SON OF A BITCH! HE OWED ME CREDITS!"
The way that Adam played into the weakness is amazing
3:38 is what we all came here to see.
I came here for this 2:39. :D
Swaggasaurus I came here for DEEZ NUTS
It gets even sadder when you read about what else happened in this scene in the novel.
(Quote):
" _At first, Han didn’t feel anything except a piercing heat in his chest. Then his lungs didn’t work. His heart stopped beating. His legs wobbled. He lost his feet. The fiery blade sank deeper. And he knew that this time, this impossible situation was one Chewie couldn’t save him from. In the last few seconds of his life, he thought of the Falcon and his furry first mate and his beautiful princess, but he saw only his son. The darkness in his eyes. And the sadness. Han forgave his son for what he had done. He prayed someday his son would forgive him in turn._ "
The saddest part is when Han feels his son's face for the last time, and you can see Han forgave his son in his dying breath. My feels man.
I also heard that in the novelization, that Kylo Ren became weaker after killing his father, weaker in the force I think
ya, is that what it actually said in the novelization of The Force Awakens? I haven't read it yet but heard about it from someone on Facebook, i'm still eager and desperate to know the origin of Snoke, his background and where he came from
I already didn't like this scene as it is. That just makes it worse.
Note to Luke Skywalker: next time don't train Darth Vader fan boys.
+White Villager Excuse me?!
+Kylo Ren Well that's a fact
yeah you heard him. FAN BOY
Agree
+White Villager Kylo: *pulls out lightsaber ignites* "You were saying?"
everyone cryin because Han died but I'm here crying BECAUSE OF CHEWWIE
Does anyone notice the way that the camera is behind Han (facing Kylo) that there is a division of blue (on Han side) and red (on Kylo/Ben side) color, and once the sun is blocked the whole room turns red. That's when poor Han dies. :( Does that resemble the light and dark side?
Drea TwilightCreed I think this was the point, and I like it!
I do
@J D It doesn't need to be hidden to be good, that's what you call composition. Thank god this movie used film language. The prequels didn't.
@@christianschmidt8476 The cinematography is overdone. They use the blue and red, the fading star and the red lighting to symbolise him turning to the dark. It's incredibly amateur. Feels like the cinematographer wanted to practice all three but only had a single scene to do it. Just pick one.
Also the cloud-covered sun fading out is lifted straight from Revenge of the Sith. Might want to rethink that statement Schmidt.
Yeah true, but there are actually 3 sides to the force
To me 3:05 = "You're still my boy. I love you, son..."
Kylo's face right before that looks as though he's... searching for something. Forgiveness, perhaps?
Han putting his hand on Kylo's cheek probably told him "It's alright. You're still my boy. I love you son...." to paraphrase you, sir.
Solus 2016 Well, we know that Kylo is very sensitive to the Force. Particularly he seems to be something of an empath. Able to feel thoughts and emotion very strongly.
I think it's safe to say that on some deep level, Kylo had felt abandoned by his father, so maybe that look is one of surprise and a kind of wonder or awe or both, because at that moment after the stab, I think he can feel the truth.... that his father does love him, and pehaps is sorry that he wasn't there for him like he should have been.
In any case, I believe that his father's love, combined with regret and remorse over what he did here, may combine to help Kylo Ren to become Ben Skywalker-Solo once again, as he gradually turns back to the Light Side of the Force.
J. Rossi It certainly seemed as though Han took what happened with Ben a lot harder than Leia did.
To you? That was intended for everyone to see, nice try.
J. Rossi yeah 😥
This is like Vader to Ahsoka
"Anakin Skywalker was weak... I destroyed him."
Vader says that in return of the jedi to luke
+histatimaniples he doesn't say that in RotJ.
Jules Winnfield in not so many words
KamenRider Gamer Then I will avenge his death.
Director Kid "I am no jedi". 😠
Watching a character be torn between doing the wrong and right thing, only to do the wrong thing, always hits hard.
"The Force Awakens plays it safe" they said. "It takes no risks" they said.
I like that people say that "TFA is a carbonite copy of the original" where all the new and old charaters have unique arcs and personalities.
Looks like Kanjiklub and the Guavian Death Gang won't be getting their money back after all.
Is THAT how you spell those names?
gotigers98675
@@SamaritanPrimetell that to Kanjiklub
who else just came to see Kylo take off his mask and see that beautiful face
same
Just because you don't think he's handsome doesn't mean he isn't.
Adam isn't ugly, but your words are.
+janesgems7 Exactly! The most famous, stupid, plastic, egoist, alcoholist hollywood actors are maybe perfect outside but empty inside. Have sex with 7888 different plastic, brainless dolls, tell everything about their private life to get lots of money. Adam is an artist, kind,talented and against this he is still shy in a good way, protects his private life, has an alive, normal, natural-looking wife, and his beauty comes from his inside, because he is very rich inside, and I find him incedibly handsome, he is adorable!
+janesgems7 Exactly! The most famous, stupid, plastic, egoist, alcoholist hollywood actors are maybe perfect outside but empty inside. Have sex with 7888 different plastic, brainless dolls, tell everything about their private life to get lots of money. Adam is an artist, kind,talented and against this he is still shy in a good way, protects his private life, has an alive, normal, natural-looking wife, and his beauty comes from his inside, because he is very rich inside, and I find him incedibly handsome, he is adorable!
i am extremelly fascinated by his face, his left side is smooth perfection and looks to have thin lips and a proportioned nose, his right side changes the game completely being raw proportioned and with a harsh expression...reminds me of how Fords face can look angry and happy taking halves
No matter your thoughts on the sequel trilogy, I think we can all agree Kylo Ren is one of the best Star Wars characters
Yeah. I honestly gives no shits about the sequels, but I still liked Kylo Ren. Such an entertaining character, and the actor is actually pretty good, despite how garbage I find the movies.
Kylo Ren looks like a teenage Severus Snape.
I agree he dose look like Severus Snape
It's funny cus this got spoiled for me before I saw the movie.
Same, some asshole in the comments section of a news post on Facebook ruined it. Next time I am going at midnight.
Brandon James For me it was the comment section of Cinemacins EWW SW: ROTS
Thats a little embarrassing haha jk
np, but it makes the comment section only more of a dangerous place for me, especially now that a part of Star Wars :Rouge one got ruined for me also, due to a actor spoiling it at the celebration reel.
I won't say it though, since unlike a few specific people, I have a brain.
James Atkins there was a guy in my school who saw it on the 17th and spoiled it for his band class of like 35 people
Seeing Adam Driver as Kylo Ren here, I think he would've been brilliant as Anakin Skywalker in the prequels.
SJMJ91 kylo ren is how anakin should have been portrayed. I don't completely blame haydensen though. Saw a documentary on the making of the prequels. Every time haydensen had ideas on what anakin should say or how he should deliver a line, Lucas said no just read it the way I wrote it. Lucas killed the prequels. Probably could have been way better if he wasn't a control freak.
Ram Rent once Adam takes his Mask off he is terrible. I bet if hayden would have been masked people would have enjoyed him more too
histatimaniples I partially agree with that.
SJMJ91 the outfit was for intimidation. once removed the character became irrelevant. same effect with Vader. he was just an old crippled man.
Honestly, my perfect version of Anakin would be Chris Hemsworth pretty much as he is when he play Thor. Blonde, big, imposing and the way he talks. You could believe him going into the suit and being overpowering with his lightsaber/force power!
What I love about the bridge scene is that, there has never been this much doubt and conflict within a Dark sider who has already committed to the Dark side before. Vader decided to come back in the end, but I am anxious how Ben would turn out.
@J D its so annoying and these same ppl praise the prequels lmao
The OT will always be my favorite, overall, but Kylo's "I'm being torn apart" and Obi-Wan's "You were my brother, Anakin" monologues are the most emotionally compelling moments in all of SW. I get chills every damn time. Even if I'm just casually watching them in the background, everything stops during those moments.
When you see this for the first time you'll think that Kylo Ren is saying that the dark side is the pain that he feels but when he kills Han you'll realize that it was the light side that was the pain. Such a great scene and I will miss you Han solo.
Guess he has evil in him like grandfather like grandson
It anyone else watch this just to see Chewbacca shoot kylo Ren?
:\
That hurt you know.....
XD
+Kylo Ren Exactly :)
+Kylo Ren lol
Yes
yes
it looks like Han turned on the Lightsaber so Ben wouldent turn all the way to the dark side
Now. He looks too surprised. He wasn't expecting to die.
also.... when they are holding the lightsaber it is Han turning it against himself not Kylo. I think Han understood what Kylo meant by not being strong enough to "do it" and he decided to take control
Han was thinking they both were talking about bringing Kylo out of the dark side, while Kylo was actually talking about taking the next step to the dark side
But who pressed the button kylo or han ?
Han : *”Take off that shirt, you don’t need it.”*
Kylo : *”What do you think you’ll see if I do?”*
Han : *”The gains of my son”*
How this scene should have ended;
Han:"Son, return to the light"
Kylo: "Eat my shorts!"
Han: "Why you little!!!"(Starts to choke Kylo)
After that, Han and Chewie takes unconscious Kylo on Millenium Falcon, blows up Starkiller, and returns back on resistance base-planet.
Then, Han reunites with Lea and gives her a nice smooch(like in the old days) and they all go visit Luke.
And in the last shot, when Luke turns around, he sees all his friends.
Han: "How you doin kid ?"
The End.
Arkady Son of Light years ago f u
Alex the Hedgehog live and learn, kid)
Arkady Son of Light that might be the funniest thing ive read today
Raymundo thedj may the fun be with you)
Arkady Son of Light no, stfu.
JJ: Will bring you back to starwars Harrison
Harrison Ford: Ok but kill me in this movie, I have enough of this shit
kylo should have been the protagonist of the sequel trilogy it would be a new experience to see a story from the perspective of a dark side user
Jesus Christ Adam driver is such an amazing actor for kylo ren. Like the line "I'm being torn apart" he just said LIKE SO FUCKING GOOD I CANT EVEN EXPLAIN IT.
I like that they showed Leia senescing Han's death
You know what I just noticed. After Han falls the camera shows kylo's face. Towards the end of the shot you can sort of see his lips moving. Then the next shot we see Leia react. Could kylo have communicated with Leia through the force in some way?
+DAANStudios No, when he opened his mouth a bit and his eyes widened, that was him sensing that killing his father didn't lessen his inner torment of his light battling his dark like what Snoke made it out to be. He was severly emotionally weakened by it, needing anger at Finn and punching his wounds for pain to fuel the dark in him. Leia has a natural sense of the force, so being closely bonded to Han most of her life, she could feel it herself when his essence left the universe.
+Stephanie Mitchell you fools act like you wrote the script lol
+shortznotskitz No, I read the movie novelization. I was tired of fan theories/conjecture so I found everything out myself.
And Leia sure loved Hans 'essence'........that's for damn sure. :/
Now who's gonna make the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs? :'(
Lando Calrissian?
Win!
Jar Jar.
Chewy.duh.
Serial Crepeist you suck
Darkest people have the most tormented souls.
I love it that Han looks him dead in the eyes when he grabs his lightsaber.
I think he knew it was coming so he looked his son in the eyes as in to say “when you kill me you look at me.”
Honestly, what if Han activated the Lightsaber and killed himself? He knows Snoke wants his son to kill him, and Ben tells him that he doesn't have the strength to do it. Ben never says it, but I think Han knows what he means. So, he helps his son kill him. But why would Han do that? To get his son to turn away from the Dark Side. If Kylo Ren kills him without assistance, his journey towards the Dark Side will be complete. But if Han does it, then there is still good in him.
This is probably not the last time we see Han Solo. He might show up in a dream sequence, or a hologram recording, or maybe Rey comes close to death and meets Han, who tells her how to speak with people who can't be Force Ghosts. That would be acceptable.
Very interesting point! It'd be a lot more intriguing if what you said actually happens, but I unfortunately think Kylo's gonna end up redeeming himself by killing Snoke while sacrificing himself.
it's simple like the old crime books with twist
that would be copying jedi's ending
+Matthew Gladwin He shouldn't be allowed to survive the trilogy. Why? Because he killed Han Solo. You automatically aren't allowed a happy ending.
+James Machuga How so? Besides saying a character has good in them, I don't see how my outline is similar to Return of the Jedi.
I grew up with Han Solo being one of my favourite icons. You can imagine my reaction to seeing this happen in the cinema. Even though I predicated it would happen I still held onto hope that it wouldn't.
I think we can imagine *every* Han Solo fan's reaction to seeing this. And yes I kinda saw it coming as well, considering where they were standing.
I felt the same, how dare they kill one of the greatest characters of all time!
Chubaca's reaction= Star Wars and Han Solo's Fan's reaction.
Finn's reaction= Non geek people that never saw this moment comming just like the spoilers from the original tralogy.
Rey's reaction= Star Wars fan girl's reaction.
My reaction in the first time= In shock almost like Finn.
Harrison Ford's reaction: Finaly, my wish came true! =)
Flash Thompson I was like, "No!" My dad, he gasped. Everyone else in the theater drew in that sharp breath like "Oh my god he killed Han Solo"
Yeah. Everyone gasped in the cinema. I mean it was packed and people just started shouting in shock. There were some very ardent Star Wars fans there. There were definitely no desiccated people there. Huge shock. A part of culture died when Hans died.
I can’t believe it’s been 5 years since I went to the cinema and watched this. Getting older and older
6 years*
Closer to 10 years now 😦
that awkward moment when you just need a hug but don't know how to ask
Did anyone else notice Kylo's sad puppy face when he still had his lightsaber in Han Solo? ;-;
Cause he thought his father was what was pulling him to the light side and keeping him conflicted. Killing him would make staying on the dark side easier.. So he thought. He actually doesn't get stronger cause of this but he gets weaker.
"I'm sorry Father....."
he was absolutely devastated when he killed han solo, even he lost some connection with the force
This act weakened him significantly (not to mention chewies blaster wound) which helped Rey in beating him
IMO they should've saved the mask removal bit to this part
og229 I feel it would have distracted from the scene. People would be too focused on what he looked like to invest in this moment
Exactly
@J D I don't think you understood his comment
Kylo Ren is a brilliant character... whether you love him or hate him he was the best part of the entire movie ...
The movie had a lot of good things
For me this movie works 90%
He is the best part of the whole trilogy (doesn’t say much). he had so much potential to be amazing but they completely dropped the ball.
R.I.P CARRİE FİSHER ....
I think this scene is pivotal in Kylo's character, Han is the last bit of light left in Kylo's way to become fully seduced by the dark side of the force. Hence the beam of white light behind Han and Kylo is very much in the dark. You can see the instant regret in his eyes after Kylo kills Han. ❤️ Adam Driver is an amazing actor!
The beauty of it is that it's set up to seem like Kylo's plea to Han is a cry for help to shake off the Dark Side and Snoke's influence...and then you notice how the light is being blotted out in the background, and how Kylo isn't letting go of that lightsaber...
...And then the fatal moment comes, and you realize that Kylo wasn't asking Han to save him. He was asking Han to seal his turn to darkness by letting him destroy the last real chance he'll probably have to redeem himself without dying in the process.
"han is the last bit of light left" no . . . . there is another ;)
Trevor Thornley Ten to one odds that he'll be after Leia in the next film.
never tell me the odds
He is, because by the time the last film comes around he'll be as iconic as Vader but in a totally different way.
I still don't think he's completely lost though - not only did he feel remorse but Han forgave him; this scene wouldn't have been half as powerful if he hadn't stroked his face at the end.
"I love you."
"I know."
"Great shot kid that's one in a million ..."
Netflix: "Are you still watching?"
Someone's daughter: 1:43
I don’t get it, could you explain
That's not how this meme works.
When he said 'i am being torn apart' i felt like crying 😭😭
You know it's been a few months since I first saw this scene in theatres and it gives me the same feeling as it did then. What about you guys?
When i first saw i cried like hell.. :(
Loved Solo
My feelings changed since I first saw it. At first I was emotionally devastated for Han, but now I also feel it for Ben. The fact that the evil forces behind things like the First Order require your soul, not just your service, is terrifying. They perform mind games, testing loyalty in the cruelest ways. After this act Snoke trusts his loyalty enough to finish training him, never before, because he knows Ben has the capacity for compassion, the very thing that caused Vader to betray his master. If you can divorce him from his compassion, you can win yourself a devoted slave to the dark. Thing Snoke doesn't realize is that it didn't have the effect on Ben he was hoping for. If anything, he's closer to the light after facing the love and forgiveness of his father during his darkest, most treacherous moment. Much respect to Han. He gave his son the one thing that will save him in the end, and will most likely come to fruition when he faces the demise of his mother.
My feelings haven't changed but at the same time they have. Let me explain. When I first watched Han die in the theatre I felt nothing...that's right I didn't feel anything when Han died. Mostly because I saw it coming from a mile away so there was no surprise to it. If anything I was irritated but that happened after the movie not because he died but because it was so obvious and the build up was poor. They could have done it much better. Now though I just don't care. I still feel nothing when I watch this but I just don't care enough to get frustrated this time.
+ShadowJedi Well, okay then. lewl. To be honest, almost everyone sensed it coming, but we sat there with a sense of dread in the pit of our stomachs while we waited, daring to hope against all odds. Our dread intensified the moment the light died and bathed Kylo in red. The foreshadowing along the way was intentional, meant to build our emotional responses. From dread, to a glimmer of hope, to fear and incredulity, to grief, to anger, and some of us even experienced empathy for Kylo at his father's forgiveness. It was really well done and the acting was phenomenal, but I guess it can't please everyone.
I understand, that just didn't happen for me. All I'm gonna say is episode 7 wasn't that good and I hope the new director and his team makes episode 8 better. Also did you mean to say lol? Because if not then what does lewl mean?
Just the sound of Kylo's lightsaber igniting here is heartbreakingly deafening.
The new trilogy should become a documentary for future film-makers entitled "How to utterly destroy and leave in ashes a beloved franchise."
The prequels already had that covered
The force awakens should be seen as an "How to revive an old franchise and make almost everyone happy"
The Last Jedi should be seen as an
"How to brilliantly make a sequel that makes the franchise fresh and new, while also starting discussions."
It really is a legendary movie. If you like the movie or not, but it's 4,5 years old and people still heavily talk about it.
The Rise of Skywalker should be seen as an "How to make a finale to a trilogy, that makes people feel good but eventually no one's completely happy with it because you tried to pander to the fans and haters of the movies before."
Watch closey at 3:20 - 3:21 how his facial expression changes drastically.
John Lungo yep he is like Darth Vader, he is sensitive and has some good in him, I believe he felt a chill in his spine and pain to his soul for doing that cause the dark force is using him like it used Anakin and made tricks into his mind
John Lungo Your right his face says what have I done.
he's like WTF just happened???
John Lungo right
What an amazing character can't wait to see what he will do next, and how powerful he will become.
I absolutely agree.
Or how much more broken
MegaBZerK The actor does a perfect job as Kylo:) I neeed my Episode 8...
Vader was as broken as they come and he kicked major ass.
eluxsus0195684 Vader returned back to the light. He was foolish for doing that. Kylo Ren would finished, what Vader started.
There's also another thing most people don't consider: Kylo Ren can't go renounce the First Order because then he'd be a dead man. The First Order will hunt him down and kill him for treason/desertion and because Snoke won't allow a trained Force-user to run around unchecked, and Republic will surely execute him for all the crimes he has committed. Kylo is stuck where he is.
CountBifford dude, not even a thousand storm stroopers could kill him
@@walkingtaco1999 no they definitely could of
@@XSRVX_01 he has plot armour
I’m pretty sure the republic will let him off at least the people there I mean do they even know who Kylo is
I don’t think the Republic would’ve executed him, he did some bad shit but nowhere near anything Vader did
Look at his face when Han falls, he never wanted to kill his father but he had to BECAUSE... to become a Sith Lord you have to kill someone that you love. I think that Ben had decided to infiltrate the First Order to bring it down but he had to be noticed by Supreme Leader first, so he betrayed his Uncle and dismantled the new Jedi order. Once Snoke took him on as Kylo Ren, Snoke still sensed the light in him and Kylo knew this, and so did Han. Han knew what he was doing and he knew he would have to be the help his son to get close to Snoke so he could destroy him. I hope this turns out to be the case so that Kylo can be redeemed similar to Anakin.
Willow Blaze close but Ben just wanted to be the supreme leader. He is no Sith Lord.
Marvin Room can't be a sith when you follow Revan
Well, the Last Jedi kind of debunks this theory
This was a theory I had as well. And its one that could have been great to see in The Last Jedi. Alas, we got what we got.
Devin Tariel i wish this was the case,id love to see a revan trilogy. Cast bennidict cumberbatch as revan and reap the rewards.
I like to think that Han and Leia were distant parents. Han is still a free spirit, always looking for trouble around the corner, and Leia is a princess so practically everything is political. It's hard to think that your childhood heroes ended up being shitty parents, but maybe it's not all Ben's fault.
Your right it was In the new canon eu
Han kinda sucks though he should’ve been a good father
Would have been much more powerful if this was also the Moment when Kylo first reveals his Face....i mean, when he done that infront of Rey, it was just fucking hilarious...
Kampf Kartoffel Agreed. They really screwed that up.
Just in case no one knew what Disney was haha.
yeah not gonna lie i chuckled when I saw it and knew instantly I was going to have to back it up anyway to friends I have that aren't huge star wars geeks like me and would shit on that scene
Not really, JJ is legitimately talented, but with Disney he must obey. Better than Lucas.
Why did you do it, Kylo? How could you kill your own Father, betray the New Republic and the New Jedi Order? How could you stand by and watch the First Order kill millions of innocent lives. Your Grandfather fell to the Dark Side because he only wanted to prevent the one he cared about from death his emotions blinded him. But when he saw your uncle being tortured by the Emperor the illusion was broken he finished what he should've done at the end of the Clone Wars, by killing the Emperor he met his destiny as the Chosen One. He fulfilled the Jedi's prophecy and saved your uncle's life at the cost of his own. Darth Vader was nothing more than a shroud of Darkness that consumed Anakin Skywalker. You belong with your Family and the Light Side of the Force.
If you continue to give Snoke what he wants from you he'll stab you in the back. You are not Kylo Ren, you are Ben Solo. The Son of 2 Heroes that saved the Galaxy from the Empire's wrath. If you don't turn to the Light Side you'll regret what you have done to serve the crumbling remains of the Galactic Empire. The Sith only see you and hundreds of their servants as expendable who will do nothing but fight for reasons they don't understand and causes they don't believe in and die for it all all the same. Destroy the Sith, it's what your Grandfather would want, you do not want to make the same mistake he made.
Joseph Barnes this is why I love KYLO REN! even though starkiller Base was destroyed he broke the heroes spirits!! This was downright evil and the best moment of the movie. Kyle is gonna make these traitors suffer and bring darkness on everyone!!!! 😈😈😈
But the Jedi and the Light Side is the way to go The Resistance and The Republic are not traitors
Well. When Darth Vader has joined the Dark side, later he even killed Padme in his vision, and after this vision, nothing from the past held him
Well, could be brainwash of the first order and he never really understood the backstory of Darth Vader, but who he was known before he returned to the light.
"I trust no one. Assume everyone will betray you and you will never be disappointed." -Tobias Beckett to Han Solo in 10 BBY
44 years later Han Solo gets killed by his own son
I personally think this the best acting to ever grace Star Wars
I cried in the theaters when I watched this scene! I am such a baby...
Don't be ashamed, everyone cries when a beloved character dies. I almost cried myself, I nearly cry rewatching this.
I cried too, tears of joy that is!
+Hail Hydra only girls cry
It's only one of the most beloved characters of all time. You are free to cry.
shhhhhh... it's ok... i understand you
He looks like he needs a hug from his dad.
-Of course I do- No.....maybe.....
+Kylo Ren You've a hideous monster!
it's kill or be killed
it's kill or be killed
Now Kylo Ren's parents are both dead.
I was watching this in cinemas with my mate and my dad, which were both so excited for this. This scene was so dramatic. The silentness, and i was clenching the chair and my heart was pounding. When it happened, 50% of me expected it, as the sunlight above faded before Hans death, which signifies darkness in Kylos eyes as he kills his own dad. I was pretty upset, seeing an important childhood figure wiped out, and the pain in Chewies and Leias hearts when Han died made me even more sad, seeing your friend or husband die, so sad, but an awesome movie, comes 2nd out of 7 movies
I'm just curious, what did you think about the ST as a whole?
Personally, I loved Ep. 7 and 8, but Ep.9 was so shit that it retroactively ruined the trilogy for me
The emotion on Kylo's face . . .
he knew he was being used but ben killed him anyway
I do think Kylo is being set up for a redemption arc, but I hope it's different than Vader's. I don't want Ben to die like his grandfather. He should turn back to the Light Side of the Force and help to rebuild the new generation of Jedi that he had once destroyed.
I totally agree!! I just have that feeling that Kylo Ren will die at the end of the trilogy but I hope that he doesn't!! Yes, I want him to be redeemed but, in a way that is new and fresh and not done before with just a slight hint of nostalgia and parallels. I also hope Rey is not a Skywalker -- whether through Luke or Leia. I just feel like if she and Kylo Ren and Rey are siblings or cousins, and she's somehow tied to his redemption -- -then I feel that it would be too similar to how Vader was redeemed because of his familial ties to Luke. You know?
Rakel Grace Well, that really depends on how they do it. My own thoughts go like this:
We know that Anakin fell because of romantic love for Padme, plus through the trickery of Darth Sidious (Palpatine). It took the love of family to bring Anakin back. Luke helped him.
I've long felt that Ben (Kylo) fell because of what he felt was a lack of love from his family, and a "messed up" family life. Snoke probably took advantage of this.
So maybe we'll get a reversal. The same romantic love that "doomed" Anakin may help save Ben. In the prequels, the romance was between Anakin and Padme. In the original movies, it involved Han Solo and Anakin's daughter Leia. Both romances involved a Skywalker, and we know that Kylo Ren (Ben Solo) IS a Skywalker by blood because Leia is his mother.
So, maybe this time we'll get Ben and Rey as the romantic "heart" of this story. At the same time, I think Kylo should become Ben again and turn back to the Light Side of the Force due to his own regret and remorse over killing his father. Knowing that his father loved him, that love should make a big difference. Han should ultimately succeed in helping to bring Ben home, even though he had to die to achieve it.
Rakel Grace Also, I don't think Rey is a Skywalker because that would take all the struggle that Kylo is going through and would make it meaningless. If Rey is Skywalker number two, then it doesn't matter what happens to Ben, the Skywalker family will be okay.
If Ben is the only new Skywalker, then he must return to the Light Side of the Force or the family will end in darkness, tragically. There are much higher stakes.
I think it would be better if Rey somehow turned out to be the grand-daughter of Obi-Wan Kenobi. Both families have been connected throughout the other two trilogies, with the Kenobis always guiding and helping the Skywalkers.
I remember the theater letting out a collective gasp of shock....and then.....silence........
Incredibly powerful scene seeing Han Solo impaled and fall.
the music when the lightsaber goes through him is outright sinister. i love it!
When it show Leia I'm pretty sure that's her sensing Hans death in the force
shows
Mr.Nugget 313 no crap
That scene is a lot sadder now..
Stabbity Joe What is secretariat she tried not to cry but she can't.
Mr.Nugget313 reminds me of requiem for a dream
Han: I love you.
Ren: I know.
*DEAD*
Such a fantastic scene. The lighting alone is brilliant. They really delivered on this Star Wars .
Surprised that Kylo can even stand after being shot by a bowcaster, a weapon that sends enemies flying from one shot
2:39 max sound made me jump
Kylo never wanted to kill his father, he was so deeply immersed in the dark side and afraid of what Snoke could do to him. Han wanted to spare Ben the grief of having to kill him, so he (possibly) activated the Lightsaber.
Kylo's saber is so badass, that whole unstable effect on it. Just wow
This is honestly my favorite scene in The Force Awakens. So much of the story is told through the visuals.
Imagine if before the final battle between Obi Wan and Anakin they had an emotional scene like this, presented with the visuals, instead of YOu TuRneD hEr AGaiNsT mE
YOu have DoNE ThaT yOuRsElF
The acting and the cinematography in this scene are really well done. The lighting between the light and the dark, and Adam Driver playing Kylo Ren so well. It’s awesome, really.