Nice Showcasing and very well explained, Yes its symmetrical, but looks like there are lots of connections , the ford was like a spaghetti🤣 Bravo to Rivian for building a such a beautiful first EV. I hope they build more and sell a whole bunch. That charge port is awesome and someone already copied the design.
Agree, in this case i believe Rivian have prioritizied time to market compared to product Cost or quality. Makes sense for a halo product where delays can destroy the brands image.
This was really cool. Thank you guys for taking the time to do this. I find the cooling system design to be silly, especially considering they’ve been advertising the frunk as a cooler
Thanks Sandy and Cory for this informative video. It appears that at Munro you have an excellant working enviornment for getting the job done. Looking forward to watching the rest of this series.
I''m impressed with the small bay with the chiller, ABS module, etc. All of these components are engineered to tuck in together. With almost any other manufacturer these would be bolted all over the sides, with excessive lines and wiring running all over. All of it done so Sandy can have his big cooler, his key metric for a good frunk!
@@jimanderson4444 methinks if you want both running AC and ice in the tub, then insulation is needed lining the tub. Most ppl will just open all the windows.
The F150s frunk is even more useful because it opens completely including tge front end. Much better access and lower lift over for cargo. It also has a full suite of power plugs.
About the charging issue. Try lifting up on the plug slightly after you plug it in. I have to do this with my BMW i3. The weight of the CCS plug wasn't letting the communication pins seat properly during the handshake. After it starts charging you can let go of the plug handle. Hope this helps.
Thank you guys! We have a lot of Rivians here( Rivian HQ LakeForest, Ca) and so impressed with fit and finish. Great to see another worthy option……But I’m keeping my Cybertruck reservation 😎
Only reason I’m sticking with the Cybertruck is for the 500m range, no way I want a truck like this with only 300miles…. 300m at 80% usable is only 240 miles, winter impact + 7yrs battery degradation brings u down to 150ish miles… need more range!
Thanks for the great videos. You guys are doing an excellent job. Could you please make sure you generously cover the Gear Tunnel disassembly? Please let us know what materials the side walls, floors and door cover are made of. Thanks again
I think it's a great adventure vehicle. It's not an f150, but I think that's because they weren't trying to compete with it. You almost have to wonder if that was intentional as Ford was a key investor. I like how unique it is and really hope Rivian survives. I had the chance to test drive one of these and I was sold on it. It feels solid, handles well, has gobs of power, gorgeous interior, it has off-road chops, and it has generous storage compartments. It's my dream car, really. You realize the lightning and the R1T aren't direct competitors after you see them in person. The lightning is nice, but the Rivian interior feels a lot more in line with what Land Rover is doing, than Ford and I think that says a lot.
With the hot air flowing around the frunk liner you could use it to keep chicken and ham biscuits warm. A new chapter in the Manifold Destiny cookbook!
“It doesn’t look like somebody just grabbed a bunch of pipes and stuck them in a hole” 😂😂😂 - what, like the Mach-E for example? That comes across well in the video, thanks. It does look well thought out and good design. Beauty goes so much further than skin deep in these kinds of products, and needs to. Great education for prospective purchasers.
It's interesting the way the front wings are held on with two brackets seems a bit messy like the guys point out. Possibly it could be to do with ease of replacement of panels after a crash. Making the person repairing the vehicles job much quicker and easier . I think that's a important point to remember when designing a vehicle, the speed and ease to be able to carry out repairs or service. Could save alot of hours in the service department of dealerships , and ultimately less staff required to carry out the same work.
I was wondering similarly. Also thought it might allow for small adjustments on the panels for gap consistency - especially in consideration for that charging port cover.
The lid with the expansive seal is probably to fight condensation that occurs with altitude changes; who wants their headlights to turn into “fog lights” 😎
So regarding the panel at 0:50 that uses magnets instead of clips... I just checked the same panel on my R1T (VIN 11xxx) and they switched to using clips! I wonder if they used magnets in their pre-production prototypes to make swapping parts easier and didn't get to finish retooling those parts until part-way into production? Honestly I have no clue why the earlier trucks would use magnets but I'm glad to see they're definitely making rolling internal changes to production.
I wonder if that front panel is magnetized for easier replacement. I see people dragging stuff over that panel and ripping it off. Nice that you wouldn’t have a bunch of broken clips. I had this happen in our expedition in the back cargo area. The flap that covers the gap when the third row is folded caught a cooler wheel and ripped off.
The r1t videos make me think of the first generation VW touareg. Pinnacle of thoughtfulness and engineering for its time to the point of being non-profitable for the company.
I had to rewind when Sandy made a comment about frunks not being useful.. bologna and blow me sound pretty similar and are both very fitting for the circumstances
Sound engineering isn’t always about deploying the highest zoot newest technology. Engineering is about delivering durable, reliable solutions at a reasonable (not always lowest) cost. I believe Rivian is doing an exemplary job of engineering based on what is shown here. Nerds may salivate over the Tesla octovslve and the integrated beam, but I say, who cares?, if you’ve already got proven parts bin components which are already known reliable and readily available from [hopefully] multiple suppliers.
The noise you hear is probably the coolant pump for the infotainment system which is liquid cooled. If doors are open the infotainment is probably on and needs to be cooled.
My VW has similar reverse threaded flanged fasteners under the headlight mounts. I’m pretty sure it’s for height adjustment of your “beverage container” haha. Great video guys. Also thanks for sharing the Autopian channel. I was wondering what those two were going to do after they left their last gig together. I’ll definitely check them out!
a frunk is just thin plastic with no added insulation. if you really want cold storage in the frunk you're going to need to add insulation or drop in a portable cooler.🆗🆒✅
I agree. Rivian failed to innovate here and now they'll look like copycats if they do Ford's trick. I hope that Munro (though I doubt it) will test the paint on this Rivian - other places have noted significant repaints on damaged panels and that is simply unacceptable at that price point. I've lost all respect for Munro because they have sold out - they own products they test and that makes them no longer impartial. They have a vested interest to ignore issues or to bash without purpose competitive products. I am so sick of being told the superiority of LED lighting in automotive applications. Sure, there may be a distance lighting benefit, but the fact remains that when that light fails, you have to replace the ENTIRE cluster that can cost manifold hundreds of dollars. A halogen lighting system costs less than $10 to replace for the bulb. Idiotic pandering to LED. There is no benefit on tail lights at all and for headlights it is a questionable value proposition - it is a vanity proposition because you can install expensive to replace fancy styled LED's which seems bogus when you consider those lights are drawing down the main power source - the batteries. Not a big deal on an ICE car, but this insistence that EV's look like Christmas trees at night is simply idiotic. I love cars - I loathe Jalopnik. Worthless.
@@ultraviolettp3446 if you watch this video, Sandy does criticize some aspects including the charge port. It's kind of hard for them to not own products they look at because they look at a lot of vehicles.
Good start gents. It will be very interesting getting deeper into the vehicle but as Sandy mentioned, charging the Rivian (or any non-Tesla EV) is difficult and or very slow. The Supercharger network makes travelling away from home easy for Tesla owners. Any EV will do if you are charging at home. Since this is an "adventure" vehicle, fast charging is and will continue to be a problem.
Charging gets a bit more complex to discuss than the average person thinks. As much as I love Sandy, I wouldn't pay much attention to anything he says about charging. Kyle on the Out of Spec channel does by far the most in depth and understandable charging evaluations imo. EA still has plenty of issues but has come a long way. Plenty of non-Tesla vehicles have and can do cross country trips with very little difficulty. Just takes a bit of planning. Motortrend did the entire TAT coast to coast in a Rivian and thought charging was so easy they barely mentioned it in their reviews. The Rivian network they are promising will be a leap forward if they can pull it off. Guess it comes down to what you define as an "adventure". Going long range interstate miles will have challenges in some areas of the country. My "adventures" are almost all within 100 miles of a camp where there are close to a million acres of public accessible lands. I will have no problem getting to and from them and gaining that back in an overnight charge. Practically speaking, it will take 10 seconds of my time to charge. 5 to plug it in when I pull in after a day out, and 5 to unplug it the next morning. There are really only 2 or 3 times a year when I will even care about DC fast charging, and they involve routes with a good number of options. I'm also coming at this from the perspective of a homeowner. As some will rightfully point out, those living in apartments/condos often have limited or no options for home charging, so the current infrastructure does have quite a ways to go to meet their demands.
Interesting that they are using plastic for the wheel well liners. Most newer veihclels use textile wheel well liner for lower road noise. And I think the ventilation holes are a big mistake, It's gonna cover the whole inside under the frunk with salt and dirt. Would be interesting to see how it looks after one winter. Anyway the truck looks very nice and will be intresting to see if they will sell it here in Europe.
I too am questioning why they would have the heat from the ac blowing right on the frunk. During the summer you may put chocolate, food, whatever in there on a drive. If the frunk gets hot then that takes away a large storage space for many things. Not to mention tailgating - but then you can at least just shut off the ac for that. Perhaps some ducting or at minimum some heat reflective product around the outside of the frunk would make sense.
I think the caps behind the headlights may be one of the components that allows for the R1T’s impressive wading depth through water. Note the gasket for water sealing. Just a thought.
As always thoroughly enjoy you guys videos , and as someone else pointed out very clear video shots. Sandy is bang on , everything looks super neat and organised in there , which means someone took the time to think things out . As a standard ev vechicle it's exceptional. But as what the vechicle could be , it's pedestrian enough. They gone with the same ( cluster prime frunk real estate) with waterbottles and pumps as Tesla has done , that's very disappointing. That space should be for the customer to use over decades. Think wife trying to load a child's buggy into the frunk , how easy is that for her and is there enough room , it's not a mystery women have kids , been happening for thousands of years........ As for the plus points of putting all those pumps etc in there , yes they are central , yes the pipes are short , yes there easy to get at , and for performance it helps the polar moment of the vehicle when it's turning making it easier to rotate . But for everyday operation its a damn shame that space is wasted it never used to matter with ICE vehicles cos the engine was in the way anyway , but for Ev era , it lacks ambition of what could be. Anyway its still a super cool truck , looks cool , is cool and I would buy one if I could over all other Ev for farming use.
not sure why someone would go through the hassle of lifting something up and into the frunk when theres a much larger bed in the back thats a lot easier to load/unload stuff
Good video...on the frunk drain, I didn't see a path when it was removed to drain to the ground it just appears like it gets all over the components to try to find a path to the ground
New company, with lots and lots still to learn. Needs Sandy’s unbiased critical manufacturing eye. Will take Rivian several years to improve and re-engineer the structure to be closer to where Tesla is now.
I love the little frunk in my Jaguar I-PACE. It hardly fits my charging cable stuff, but it's ideal for transporting...... fried fish. Normally that delicious food stinks up the interior of the car for weeks. Not anymore 🤣.
Frunk is all down to personal preference. I used to own a Model 3, never used the frunk except for charging cables. My mom owns a model 3, never uses the frunk. I’d rather have the same overall size of car with no frunk, less “under hood” space and move that space into the interior. It also allows some under hood space for serviceability, like replacing the cabin air filter, which is stupidly complicated on the Model 3. For something like a truck, where even ICE trucks have a huge amount of wasted front end space, there is no reason it can’t have a big frunk, but when we are talking about a compact car or CUV where max cabin space and minimum exterior size are more important, I’d gladly lose the frunk for a more space-efficient vehicle.
LEDs have multiple failure modes. There appears to be a gap in the Munro Team knowledge. Also get some experience in the accident repair field. Not just design for manufacture but design for serviceability.
Thanks as always for the in depth analysis here. As a New Englander, I'm concerned (as usual) about salt. There have long been arguements that EVs are less $/mile that an ICE car, which has proven to be true, but unfortunately, I dont think these will last any longer. Salt will kill these trucks well before the motors or batteries reach the end of their functional lifespan in my neck of the woods. More specific to this video, the venting in the wheel well cover for the radiator that you found under the frunk seems like a great place for salt spray to do all sorts of damage. Am I way off base? I feel like I never want to be able to see daylight through a wheel well cover.
Aluminium on steel.... mmm does potential exist here for galvanic or dissimilar metal corrosion? Seems to recall something about from my aircraft maintenance training many many years ago. 🤔
Well organised and thought out and the mystery wire cap....maybe a contest to see who comes closest to guessing what they are there for? But the real important question is..... Who's RC Cybertruck on the back bench?
Overall, viewing the assemblies under and behind the frunk my first impression was that it's a very tidy layout. Would have liked to see a view from the underside to back up that impression. But, I'm unclear why Sandy detailed complaints about his difficulty charging then said that's why he didn't like the charging port! I was hoping for comments about the port location, mechanism reliability, resistance to icing-up, etc.
Question? Is there any Fiber glass re enforcement on that big 1 piece plastic injection? Would that actually reduce the cost of a Truck, if the whole Truck was Toggle locked? Perhaps the Circle or the seal, could be to keep water or dirt from getting in? I'm going on a limb and say that RIVIAN is going to over engineer their vehicles, to get a market share.....
Lots of steel attached to aluminum here, are these dissimilar metal isolated in a way to prevent galvanic corrosion? ...and the frunk vents look like the making of a mouse hotel lobby. some screen might keep that from being an issue for vehicles that are used in an area with small rodent populations.
Thank you Sandy and Cory - extraordinary engineering analyses!
Shout out to the camera man. Nicely shot video. 🎥
Thanks Eric, yeah Eric brought his A-game this video. Maybe he was fully caffeinated.
@@MunroLive Hardware image stabilization has it's purposes
Me waiting three years for my R1T and these guys get one and tear it down. I still appreciate the knowledge and watch all their videos.
you guys are the best. cory really showing off his knowledge in this one, tons of experience and great eye for detail on components used!
Nice Showcasing and very well explained, Yes its symmetrical, but looks like there are lots of connections , the ford was like a spaghetti🤣 Bravo to Rivian for building a such a beautiful first EV. I hope they build more and sell a whole bunch. That charge port is awesome and someone already copied the design.
it's a great vehicle, it's just a pity that I can't make their numbers work - every way I try it they end up going bust.
Thanks for watching!
@@MunroLive what brand is your yellow watch? I love the look of it. I couldn't make it out in the video
@@justinhamill1931 Looks like a Sekonda.
Seems as if there are many opportunities for cost savings. Rivian is making huge fans of their product though, hopefully they are successful.
its a $90k product , thats costing Rivian prob $125k to build.
Cost savings work with large scale... typically.
Agree, in this case i believe Rivian have prioritizied time to market compared to product Cost or quality. Makes sense for a halo product where delays can destroy the brands image.
@@markplott4820 today, RIVIAN is spending closer to $1M per build. They have a long way to go to be profitable.
@@mickealsen a massive mistake. If you aren’t profitable, you’re out of business. The magnets really shows how naive they are.
This was really cool. Thank you guys for taking the time to do this. I find the cooling system design to be silly, especially considering they’ve been advertising the frunk as a cooler
nothing overly fancy, just honest, well informed review. so refreshing. i'll never get tired of munro live 💚👍👍
Thanks Sandy and Cory for this informative video. It appears that at Munro you have an excellant working enviornment for getting the job done. Looking forward to watching the rest of this series.
You bet!
I''m impressed with the small bay with the chiller, ABS module, etc. All of these components are engineered to tuck in together. With almost any other manufacturer these would be bolted all over the sides, with excessive lines and wiring running all over. All of it done so Sandy can have his big cooler, his key metric for a good frunk!
How do we keep the ice from quickly becoming a puddle?
Lol…… those ABS modules are probably made by BOSCH just like any other cars in the road 😂
@@jimanderson4444 methinks if you want both running AC and ice in the tub, then insulation is needed lining the tub. Most ppl will just open all the windows.
@@carholic-sz3qv Their strategy was to use already available parts to reduce engineering and production costs. Off the shelf brakes, air struts, etc.
Great very steady camera handling. Enormous improvement!
Thanks
I like the Ford lightning frunk because you don't have to worry about damaging your back to lift out heavy stuff
Nice job breaking down those acronyms guys! Lovin' that vehicle design too.
The F150s frunk is even more useful because it opens completely including tge front end. Much better access and lower lift over for cargo. It also has a full suite of power plugs.
Thank you!
With that Frunk taken out, you could use it to take a bath when on your camping trip!! (it's huge!)
Really excited about these series! Thank you guys
Our pleasure!
You guys are getting much better on camera. Love watching your stuff hope to see a series on improvements you made to FUV.
About the charging issue. Try lifting up on the plug slightly after you plug it in. I have to do this with my BMW i3. The weight of the CCS plug wasn't letting the communication pins seat properly during the handshake. After it starts charging you can let go of the plug handle. Hope this helps.
Thank you guys!
We have a lot of Rivians here( Rivian HQ LakeForest, Ca) and so impressed with fit and finish. Great to see another worthy option……But I’m keeping my Cybertruck reservation 😎
Nothing beats cybertruck. I hope it is made legal in Europe soon.
You may take that reservation to your grave!
@@ashblackhawk it is easy to beat something that doesn't exist!
@@gmv0553 still worth it
Only reason I’m sticking with the Cybertruck is for the 500m range, no way I want a truck like this with only 300miles…. 300m at 80% usable is only 240 miles, winter impact + 7yrs battery degradation brings u down to 150ish miles… need more range!
Thanks for the great videos.
You guys are doing an excellent job.
Could you please make sure you generously cover the Gear Tunnel disassembly?
Please let us know what materials the side walls, floors and door cover are made of.
Thanks again
I think it's a great adventure vehicle. It's not an f150, but I think that's because they weren't trying to compete with it. You almost have to wonder if that was intentional as Ford was a key investor. I like how unique it is and really hope Rivian survives. I had the chance to test drive one of these and I was sold on it. It feels solid, handles well, has gobs of power, gorgeous interior, it has off-road chops, and it has generous storage compartments. It's my dream car, really. You realize the lightning and the R1T aren't direct competitors after you see them in person. The lightning is nice, but the Rivian interior feels a lot more in line with what Land Rover is doing, than Ford and I think that says a lot.
Thanks for the information! Can't wait to see more of the tear down.
More to come!
13:20 Sandy's mind is reconsidering his optimum beer cooling strategy.
Awesome Video Sandy and Munro team, keep it coming!
🤔 one thing I was wondering about is the location of the charge port …isn’t it where a lot of accidents happen 🤷♂️
I like the design but not the location.
@@mini2nut67 I AM TOO 🤗
18:53. “Chicken nugget weldings”. 😂. Love this channel
With the hot air flowing around the frunk liner you could use it to keep chicken and ham biscuits warm. A new chapter in the Manifold Destiny cookbook!
“It doesn’t look like somebody just grabbed a bunch of pipes and stuck them in a hole” 😂😂😂 - what, like the Mach-E for example?
That comes across well in the video, thanks. It does look well thought out and good design. Beauty goes so much further than skin deep in these kinds of products, and needs to. Great education for prospective purchasers.
Cool seeing the condenser assembly and the lines coming off of it. I made a vibration fixture for that assembly at my work.
It's interesting the way the front wings are held on with two brackets seems a bit messy like the guys point out. Possibly it could be to do with ease of replacement of panels after a crash. Making the person repairing the vehicles job much quicker and easier . I think that's a important point to remember when designing a vehicle, the speed and ease to be able to carry out repairs or service. Could save alot of hours in the service department of dealerships , and ultimately less staff required to carry out the same work.
I was wondering similarly. Also thought it might allow for small adjustments on the panels for gap consistency - especially in consideration for that charging port cover.
Thanks Gents, great stuff. 👍
guys were smooth as butter today, like kids in a candy store!
Thanks Garret
How does this channel only have 289k subscribers? The quality and depth of information provided on this channel are second to none. NONE.
Lol gotta love bromances! I see on Autopian that the FRONT story is about your Rivian teardown! :-)
🤗GLAD TO SEE 👀 all the teamwork and Eric getting his workout 🏋️♀️😁😍😍😍
Wow! @ 13:13 you just gave some entrepreneur an awesome idea: after-market cleanable-reusable Frunk liners to keep ice, ice, etc.
It's called a large garbage bag. ;) :D
Sandy, The headlight compartment is for smuggling. LOL
I’m amused at how important it is to Sandy to be able to put beer and ice in the frunk 😎
The lid with the expansive seal is probably to fight condensation that occurs with altitude changes; who wants their headlights to turn into “fog lights” 😎
No, they're clearly for filling up the headlight fluid.
The headlight housing caps with expensive seals is for the ability to cross deep water.
So regarding the panel at 0:50 that uses magnets instead of clips... I just checked the same panel on my R1T (VIN 11xxx) and they switched to using clips!
I wonder if they used magnets in their pre-production prototypes to make swapping parts easier and didn't get to finish retooling those parts until part-way into production? Honestly I have no clue why the earlier trucks would use magnets but I'm glad to see they're definitely making rolling internal changes to production.
A front trunk is way more important in a truck with no other sealed storage area.
It has both the gear tunnel and tonneau covered bed though which are lockable. 🤔
I wonder if that front panel is magnetized for easier replacement. I see people dragging stuff over that panel and ripping it off. Nice that you wouldn’t have a bunch of broken clips. I had this happen in our expedition in the back cargo area. The flap that covers the gap when the third row is folded caught a cooler wheel and ripped off.
The r1t videos make me think of the first generation VW touareg. Pinnacle of thoughtfulness and engineering for its time to the point of being non-profitable for the company.
This is a great video! I was hoping to see where the horn is so I can change it out.
Any ideas?
I had to rewind when Sandy made a comment about frunks not being useful.. bologna and blow me sound pretty similar and are both very fitting for the circumstances
Sound engineering isn’t always about deploying the highest zoot newest technology. Engineering is about delivering durable, reliable solutions at a reasonable (not always lowest) cost. I believe Rivian is doing an exemplary job of engineering based on what is shown here. Nerds may salivate over the Tesla octovslve and the integrated beam, but I say, who cares?, if you’ve already got proven parts bin components which are already known reliable and readily available from [hopefully] multiple suppliers.
And don't forget to tip those cashiers boys and girls!
The noise you hear is probably the coolant pump for the infotainment system which is liquid cooled. If doors are open the infotainment is probably on and needs to be cooled.
My VW has similar reverse threaded flanged fasteners under the headlight mounts. I’m pretty sure it’s for height adjustment of your “beverage container” haha. Great video guys. Also thanks for sharing the Autopian channel. I was wondering what those two were going to do after they left their last gig together. I’ll definitely check them out!
Thank you for the very interesting video like always! Can you tell me where the water is going if you have ice in the fronk?
a frunk is just thin plastic with no added insulation. if you really want cold storage in the frunk you're going to need to add insulation or drop in a portable cooler.🆗🆒✅
Still can't get over that Little Orphan Annie headlights..
The problem with the Rivian frunk is liftover height. The Ford lightning is the much better design in that area.
I guess they want you to shove whatever you don’t want to lift in the gear tunnel.
I agree. Rivian failed to innovate here and now they'll look like copycats if they do Ford's trick. I hope that Munro (though I doubt it) will test the paint on this Rivian - other places have noted significant repaints on damaged panels and that is simply unacceptable at that price point. I've lost all respect for Munro because they have sold out - they own products they test and that makes them no longer impartial. They have a vested interest to ignore issues or to bash without purpose competitive products.
I am so sick of being told the superiority of LED lighting in automotive applications. Sure, there may be a distance lighting benefit, but the fact remains that when that light fails, you have to replace the ENTIRE cluster that can cost manifold hundreds of dollars. A halogen lighting system costs less than $10 to replace for the bulb. Idiotic pandering to LED. There is no benefit on tail lights at all and for headlights it is a questionable value proposition - it is a vanity proposition because you can install expensive to replace fancy styled LED's which seems bogus when you consider those lights are drawing down the main power source - the batteries. Not a big deal on an ICE car, but this insistence that EV's look like Christmas trees at night is simply idiotic.
I love cars - I loathe Jalopnik. Worthless.
@@ultraviolettp3446 if you watch this video, Sandy does criticize some aspects including the charge port. It's kind of hard for them to not own products they look at because they look at a lot of vehicles.
Agree with you on that one , lost opportunity.
you don't break your back
Good start gents. It will be very interesting getting deeper into the vehicle but as Sandy mentioned, charging the Rivian (or any non-Tesla EV) is difficult and or very slow. The Supercharger network makes travelling away from home easy for Tesla owners. Any EV will do if you are charging at home. Since this is an "adventure" vehicle, fast charging is and will continue to be a problem.
Charging gets a bit more complex to discuss than the average person thinks. As much as I love Sandy, I wouldn't pay much attention to anything he says about charging. Kyle on the Out of Spec channel does by far the most in depth and understandable charging evaluations imo. EA still has plenty of issues but has come a long way. Plenty of non-Tesla vehicles have and can do cross country trips with very little difficulty. Just takes a bit of planning. Motortrend did the entire TAT coast to coast in a Rivian and thought charging was so easy they barely mentioned it in their reviews. The Rivian network they are promising will be a leap forward if they can pull it off. Guess it comes down to what you define as an "adventure". Going long range interstate miles will have challenges in some areas of the country. My "adventures" are almost all within 100 miles of a camp where there are close to a million acres of public accessible lands. I will have no problem getting to and from them and gaining that back in an overnight charge. Practically speaking, it will take 10 seconds of my time to charge. 5 to plug it in when I pull in after a day out, and 5 to unplug it the next morning. There are really only 2 or 3 times a year when I will even care about DC fast charging, and they involve routes with a good number of options.
I'm also coming at this from the perspective of a homeowner. As some will rightfully point out, those living in apartments/condos often have limited or no options for home charging, so the current infrastructure does have quite a ways to go to meet their demands.
There was a recent race across country by several EVs. The Tesla lost because of faulty Tesla charge stations! They definitely aren't perfect anymore!
Interesting that they are using plastic for the wheel well liners. Most newer veihclels use textile wheel well liner for lower road noise. And I think the ventilation holes are a big mistake, It's gonna cover the whole inside under the frunk with salt and dirt. Would be interesting to see how it looks after one winter. Anyway the truck looks very nice and will be intresting to see if they will sell it here in Europe.
I too am questioning why they would have the heat from the ac blowing right on the frunk. During the summer you may put chocolate, food, whatever in there on a drive. If the frunk gets hot then that takes away a large storage space for many things. Not to mention tailgating - but then you can at least just shut off the ac for that. Perhaps some ducting or at minimum some heat reflective product around the outside of the frunk would make sense.
I think the caps behind the headlights may be one of the components that allows for the R1T’s impressive wading depth through water. Note the gasket for water sealing. Just a thought.
Exactly what I thought. Sealing electrical components for water fording capabilities
Awesome content!
As always thoroughly enjoy you guys videos , and as someone else pointed out very clear video shots. Sandy is bang on , everything looks super neat and organised in there , which means someone took the time to think things out . As a standard ev vechicle it's exceptional. But as what the vechicle could be , it's pedestrian enough. They gone with the same ( cluster prime frunk real estate) with waterbottles and pumps as Tesla has done , that's very disappointing. That space should be for the customer to use over decades. Think wife trying to load a child's buggy into the frunk , how easy is that for her and is there enough room , it's not a mystery women have kids , been happening for thousands of years........
As for the plus points of putting all those pumps etc in there , yes they are central , yes the pipes are short , yes there easy to get at , and for performance it helps the polar moment of the vehicle when it's turning making it easier to rotate . But for everyday operation its a damn shame that space is wasted it never used to matter with ICE vehicles cos the engine was in the way anyway , but for Ev era , it lacks ambition of what could be. Anyway its still a super cool truck , looks cool , is cool and I would buy one if I could over all other Ev for farming use.
not sure why someone would go through the hassle of lifting something up and into the frunk when theres a much larger bed in the back thats a lot easier to load/unload stuff
@@dorito31561 what if the bed is full of construction equipment or farm supplies.
@@andrewashmore8000 Then your wife probably isn't the one using the truck that day.
Great video!!
Thanks!
I believe the Hydroform piece on the sides are "tube hydroformed" a much more complicated process.
Like always thank you for the precious analysis. Disappointed by all the steel because it's heavier than aluminium
Good video...on the frunk drain, I didn't see a path when it was removed to drain to the ground it just appears like it gets all over the components to try to find a path to the ground
New company, with lots and lots still to learn. Needs Sandy’s unbiased critical manufacturing eye. Will take Rivian several years to improve and re-engineer the structure to be closer to where Tesla is now.
That ice in the frunk sounds like a job for munro live to test for us. Very important information needed. How long does the beer stay cold?!!
The same thing applies to tesla! Have you seen a tesla modelX off-roading!? It’s way louder than an ICE vehicle lol… 😂
24:53 "I'll take it from here...." LOL
I love the little frunk in my Jaguar I-PACE. It hardly fits my charging cable stuff, but it's ideal for transporting...... fried fish. Normally that delicious food stinks up the interior of the car for weeks. Not anymore 🤣.
AC heating the frunk: So what you're saying, is Rivians will make ideal hot food delivery vehicles!
Frunk is all down to personal preference. I used to own a Model 3, never used the frunk except for charging cables. My mom owns a model 3, never uses the frunk. I’d rather have the same overall size of car with no frunk, less “under hood” space and move that space into the interior. It also allows some under hood space for serviceability, like replacing the cabin air filter, which is stupidly complicated on the Model 3. For something like a truck, where even ICE trucks have a huge amount of wasted front end space, there is no reason it can’t have a big frunk, but when we are talking about a compact car or CUV where max cabin space and minimum exterior size are more important, I’d gladly lose the frunk for a more space-efficient vehicle.
Good luck with that charge port in that location (the front) during snowy winter...
Thanks Sandy and Cory for this informative video, what is the cost difference in using magnets vs conventional pop in style rubber grommets?
My fridge magnets in the kitchen aren't that daft after all !
Radiator arrangement is going to melt Sandy's beer ice while driving. ;-)
(ooops--he just noticed, lol)
LEDs have multiple failure modes. There appears to be a gap in the Munro Team knowledge.
Also get some experience in the accident repair field.
Not just design for manufacture but design for serviceability.
They seem to not focus AT ALL on design for serviceability
Thanks as always for the in depth analysis here. As a New Englander, I'm concerned (as usual) about salt. There have long been arguements that EVs are less $/mile that an ICE car, which has proven to be true, but unfortunately, I dont think these will last any longer. Salt will kill these trucks well before the motors or batteries reach the end of their functional lifespan in my neck of the woods. More specific to this video, the venting in the wheel well cover for the radiator that you found under the frunk seems like a great place for salt spray to do all sorts of damage. Am I way off base? I feel like I never want to be able to see daylight through a wheel well cover.
3M Dual lock last a week or so. Other manufacturers using it and it’s good for the assembly line but that’s it
12 years on my aircraft.
Key is to read the instructions on installation.
Press for 60 seconds, let sit for 24 hrs.
Aluminium on steel.... mmm does potential exist here for galvanic or dissimilar metal corrosion? Seems to recall something about from my aircraft maintenance training many many years ago. 🤔
Well organised and thought out and the mystery wire cap....maybe a contest to see who comes closest to guessing what they are there for?
But the real important question is..... Who's RC Cybertruck on the back bench?
Doesn't look like a CT to me.
The moment Sandy realizes that the frunk won't be a good beer cooler: 13:03. ;-)
For that fender, I think you need the horizontal slip plane to control panel fit.
exactly what I was thinking.
Looks well built, My Vin number is below 2k :) Is that bad Sandy. My truck feels great!
The light thing might be for you can change them out later.
13:07 - Sandy should put some thermocouples in his Rivian with the A/C on and see how hot the frunk gets.
Love your reviews not sure we could ever buy one in the UK?
... very nice apple watch stainless steel -gold/strap combination , kudos
Thanks Nizar!
Overall, viewing the assemblies under and behind the frunk my first impression was that it's a very tidy layout. Would have liked to see a view from the underside to back up that impression. But, I'm unclear why Sandy detailed complaints about his difficulty charging then said that's why he didn't like the charging port! I was hoping for comments about the port location, mechanism reliability, resistance to icing-up, etc.
Frunks on trucks give you everything.
How these infos keep getting more interesting , inspiring, I'm a fan!
Glad to hear it!
When I asked Bing the question, "When did Rivian purchase the Mitsubishi plant in Normal, Illinois?" I get the answer: 2017.
how does the drain port of the fronk work? Is there a tube below the drain port?
Duck bill valve.
@@markplott4820 I didn't know such a thing existed. As long as it doesn't say Aflack when you open it :)
"Nobody uses the frunk"????? I love my frunk!
Pretty neat! Next: more casting!
I think you might be a little biased since you own one and love it.
Question?
Is there any Fiber glass re enforcement on that big 1 piece plastic injection?
Would that actually reduce the cost of a Truck, if the whole Truck was Toggle locked?
Perhaps the Circle or the seal, could be to keep water or dirt from getting in?
I'm going on a limb and say that RIVIAN is going to over engineer their vehicles, to get a market share.....
seems like the motto of this design is "if you cant make elegant or efficient then just brute force it price be damed"
On using magnets is it visual clean just one black strip when you lift the fronk
Lots of steel attached to aluminum here, are these dissimilar metal isolated in a way to prevent galvanic corrosion?
...and the frunk vents look like the making of a mouse hotel lobby. some screen might keep that from being an issue for vehicles that are used in an area with small rodent populations.
Why no mention of the very high lift over height of the Rivian's frunk? I think that limits its practical use for heavy objects.
I don’t think it’s intended for that, what heavy object would you want in there vs the bed?
@@q1joe suitcases. Cases of wine, beer, whiskey!
That flimsy plastic tub isn't meant to hold heavy objects.