How VW 2.0t TSI Intake Manifolds Fail
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- Automotive Podcast Episode 20 How VW 2.0t TSI Intake Manifolds Fail.
For full show notes visit the blog at: humblemechanic.com/?p=4613
Today we are continuing the Tuesday episodes where we look at a failed VW or Audi part. This is like the podcast and Shop Shots piled into one. The response to last weeks show about failed VW 2.0t water pumps was awesome. I am thrilled that you guys like these shows. So be sure to remember that Tuesdays are failed part analysis days.
We look closer at the 2.0t intake manifold
How it fails
Faults that may show intake manifold failure
Drive-ability issues with a failed intake manifold
How it fails
Intake manifold runner sticks
Intake manifold solenoid fails
Connecting rod for runner breaks
Sensor fails
Ways to test the intake manifold
Replacing intake manifold
Other repairs to consider with intake manifold removed
Injector seals
Carbon cleaning
Link to DIY replacing 2.0t VW intake manifold • Intake Manifold for VW...
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FYI... the solenoid and the arm are parts you can buy individually at places like Rock Auto so the intake manifold can be repaired at a lower cost now.
Peter Stern tell me
More... that arm popped off on mine. Are you saying that can be repaired without taking the whole thing out?
@@zecarioca2 Is it possible
Just as I was thinking "would be nice to see a DIY removal video" I hear you say there's a link in the description! Guess where I'm going now!? Great series, looking forward to next week's video.
the legend himself!
Mr Humble: I cannot thank you enough for your video. I have had three manifolds on my Volkswagen CC, and the third has failed. I have to drive for my job-I need my car!!, I have no time due to my two small kids, and I have other car expenses due to being hit by an uninsured driver. I loather the prospect of paying out for a new manifold.
I just snapped back in the little are you described and my car is running great!!! No fast slow idle, but now a smooth idle.
I cant thank you enough!!!
Even though I don't own a VW, I still watch all your videos and I find them fascinating. Really quality information, and I think a lot of things can carry over to other makes. Just wish you worked at a nissan dealership! :)
Cheers mate, a very clear concise video, just what I was looking for. Very helpful, thanks.
Failed part. Both my fuel pump 1800.00 and my water pump 3000.00 failed 15,000 miles apart. Intake fail was what I put in shop for. Mechanic said just a vacuum hose was off, but my water pump was leaking, needs r&r. $3000. later I pick up, drive 10 miles and engine light comes on. Return to shop, they are putting on new intake today. Then I looked you up! Thank you, Man! A real answer in about 3 minutes.
You have come a long way I'm proud of you bro
TY so much for posting this video. I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out a misfire on Cyl 4. I replaced the usual suspects, ignition coil and spark plug, with no effect. After watching your video I checked and discovered the arm had popped out. Popping it back in fixed the misfire. I guess I will be replacing the entire manifold with the new version eventually, but for now I'm back on the road.😃
Thanks for the great info. The car was flagging the 2015 and 2187 codes. After watching this video I found the input shaft had backed out. I put a little pressure on it and moved the vacuum shaft and it popped right back in. Now it has a very smooth idle.
What do you mean by input shaft? I have the p2187 but not the p2015. Idling poor and sputtering and shutting off on cold starts
Great to see these videos, great to know what is going on within the car, and why. Thank you so much, I can diagnose issues and save money so it can go to buying diapers and save some money, unfortunately I do not have so much money I can bring the shop in to fix all the time. appreciated!!!
Thank you for the information! I have an '09 Passat 2.0T TSI, it has 121k miles so of course it is 1k miles over the extended warranty that VW issued out for the intake manifold.
My intake didn't fail but when it came time to do another valve cleaning I decided to change it since the car now has 160K miles. The actuator and flapper were all nice and tight. Boy were those valves and injectors gunked up ugly. I'm not surprised it was running so poorly after seeing that. Thanks for the video..
watching today 2024!! haha
same! lol godbless youtube
Me epc and check engine light turned on and the rpms would rise so I having a drive ability issue at a stoplight..this video prevented me form buying an intake manifold and found out the part that’s attached to the actuator was loose thank you so much for this video you just gained a sub
Thank you for your videos! Helped me a lot.
I remember hooking up the scanner and getting a code for the intake flap, thankfully it had a test plan and life is easier :D
Clear expalnation and answer to my doubt. Thank you very much from half the globe away.
Thanks for the video! What performance impact will it have on your vehicle and can you continue driving with these fails?
I had a newer tiguan at work a while ago. Brought it in had misfires across all cylinders,random miss,boost code,and some lean conditions and drivability complaint. The peice popped out like you said I sent customer to the dealer for warrenty extension once I had diagnosed. Cool video thanks. suscribed
Good fine! I had a dealer tech get their hut kicked by that. Thanks for liking the video and subscribing.
how about intake valve cleaning on 2.0T FSI engines?
A million thanks from Miami!!!
I'm getting a 2013 gti and are hoping for the best. I want to know what you think about extended warranties for repairs from an insurance company. Idk if you would be the one to ask but I figured it wouldn't hurt.
Hello! Thanks for the video. My 2010 Passat, check engine light was on. Will the intake manifold effect my speed and performance on my car? Thanks again. JM
Another great topic thanks Chuck Wagon!!
Have been watching some of your videos and subscribed. I work at a VW dealership but not as a tech. I enjoy your honesty and nice to see that you are a car guy :).
Awesome! Thanks for watching. Gotta love that dealership life some times ;)
Thank you sir for your knowledge. I have problems with my Tiguan and you told me a lot. subscribed now! Dumb comment but I’m listening to the next one while typing.
If manufacturers would stop using plastic for shit that shouldn't be plastic it would stop a lot of problems that exist. Manifolds and water pumps and coolant pipes shouldn't be plastic.
plastic intake manifolds have been in use for some 20 years now and they are fine. Other parts, not so much.
Yeah but then they wouldn't be able to sell you the same part two or three times!
PCV valves
If that swirl flap motor arm snaps, or the part pops out, is it guaranteed to pop an error or EML? Would it bring P2015 on a Skoda 2TSI?
Charles - many thanks for your expertise, by the way
Can't belive I haven't SUBBED you yet. Great video. My 2012 GTI just got a new IM under warranty and with my REVO tune mid RPM hard acceleration made the car surge. Anyways, I've been following you on Twitter and never realized YOU were the HumbleMechanic! Love these videos.
Andre Thompson :)
My MY10 had the manifold replaced...now I understand !
Humble Mechanic, thank you for sharing your expertise... I viewed you video on removing the manifold. What experience with my CC one day was I started my car and it stalled which never happened, with a flashing CE light. Then I stayed it again and it had a rough idle, drove successfully with no light. Started in the morning with a CE light... throwing all codes 2015 and misfires, etc. checked out your video on replacing the manifold. CE Light is still one. No rough idle, smooth ride, maybe slight less power but nothing significant... do I need to erase CE? Thank you sir.
Great video sir. Greetings from Cyprus 🇨🇾
I’m an owner of a VW golf GTI 2.0 2011. Great car but that engine is full of problems. I’m tired of it.
I really like all your videos. Thank you so much for putting them together. This one saved me a bunch of time and money as the little flap rotator thingy was popped out on mine making the car nearly undriveable. Brought to a VW mechanic and $400 dollars later nothing changed. I've managed to pop it back in but when I put my thumb over the end it's still pulling a small vacuum on my thumb. I'm guessing this isn't normal and the manifold should be replaced?
When fitting a new manifold is it plug and play or is there any adaption required. Great videos.
Excellent video!!!
Thank you for the insight!
Good videos man ! keep them coming
Thank you. I really appreciate it. Knowing you guys like them makes it way more fun to do.
Hi Charles! Thank you for the very informative and detailed video. 2012 vw Tiguan 2.0 TSI has check engine light. The first item you went over on you video has failed on my Tiguan, I can hear the huge air leak and as you mention their is a lot of outward movement where it attaches to the runners........Can I get away with just replacing the arm that attaches to the runners/manifold?
Thanks in Advance!
Very helpful thanks 👍👍
hey love your videos
can this intake manifold failure cause no compression on all of the cylinders on tiguan?
timing chain and tensioner is not faulty and has been inspected
You should do the cam follower for 2.0TFSI engines. :)
Hi, and sorry for the delay.
I did a little research and the manifold was covered by a factory part warrant, and the repair cost me nothing. The dealer even gave me a loaner for the day they had my car. Thanks Findley VW Las Vegas.
Great Video, what do you think of the 2.0 tfsi b cycle built now?
Thanks for this video. Think I have this issue with my 2011 Tiguan. Was able to reset the light, so will drive and see if the problem occurs again.
These videos are excellent! Really informative and its great to hear all of the details from a technician.
Is there any particular reason why these intake manifolds are made out of plastic? I would feel that it's better to make it out of aluminium?
leylandcarsloverslea Thanks! Plastics are generally cheaper, easier to make, and can be molded into shape faster
@HumbleMechanic I have had the P2015 Code on for over 6 months now and didn't think much of it as I didn't any drive-ability issues with the car...... until it started getting cold out side (Below 45). For the first few minutes of driving the car will misfire and run rough. Once the engine gets up to optimal running temperature the hesitation goes away. Is that Intake Manifold Sensor Related or could that be the intake runner flaps being stuck by all the carbon deposits (my car has over 93,000 miles and I have yet to do a cleaning). I guess my real question is, could the intake flaps sticking cause a P2015 Code or am I short out of luck and I need to purchase a manifold. I'll be doing the carbon cleaning soon so it would make sense to replace the manifold while its off. Thanks again for the informative video.
Having this issue now with my 2015 Audi A5. P2015 code, no issues. Apparently in 2017 they've fixed the issue with an updated manifold. It's available on ECS for $285 with install kit. I'll be upgrading mine soon. Thanks for the help.
In the video on the top left of the manifold there is a like a hose connection. Now my question is should that be blocked off while on the engine? On my audi a4 b8 there is nothing attached to it and I feel like maybe this is causing a boost leak for me. What are your thoughts on it?
Hi, I found many of your videos very helpful. I had a bad/stretched timing chain in my 2009 tiguan at 118,000 miles. I removed the head had a machine shop replace my valves, replaced cam chain, tensioner, guides, all new gaskets, new injector seals. I had the manifold replace from dealer a few years ago. But the hardest part of this job was trying to put the bracket on for the manifold. I saw an aftermarket high performance manifold that actually does not use the bracket. The car runs better than ever, but I did not install the bracket. With the 9 bolts and in throttle body intake hose holding the manifold in place it does not seem like it is needed. What is your thoughts?
Dude thank a bunch you remind me that this part was under a extended warranty....got a P2015 code fix for free at dealership on my CC 2014 :)...what a great day !
Awesome
This was great. Hooked me up big time (the knowledge I picked up ahead of going to my dealer with a P2015 issue). My GTI '13 was NOT covered by VW America's extended warranty on this part that I read about but a combination of VW losing well deserved momentum due to Dieselgate and my handling of the service department lead to my 71k GTI getting a new Intake Manifold job at $0; I just offered to pay for the media blasting/cleaning of the intake port which I was quite happy to pay for. My GTI is running nicely now and while I'm somewhat frightened at what the next failure will be (having come from a JSW HP Fuel pump problem), I love VWs and am grateful to The Humble Mechanic for all that he puts in here. (do you sell those tee shirts?)
+EM white HELL YEA!!! Good call on the decarb too.
As far as the shirts. I was working with a guy, but that fell through. I may do a pre order for another run of them. I'll keep everyone posted for sure.
I had a very rare 6 series V-12 BMW, pre OBDII,pre check engine light that failed emissions (high HC),we sold the car, I did the used car check out. Part of the check out did not involve checking if it would pass emissions. By 2002 our Dealership did not posses a 2 or 3 gas analyzer (no analyzer of any type) and no "Sun machine" type device to check primary and secondary ignition performance.The car had heated cats. I worked off two known issues (intake manifold leaks) and secondary ignition wires failing. Just disconnecting a secondary wire at the spark plug will damage the wire,our cost for wires was 300.00 per side,(two sides). Customer pay on intake reseal was 5.0 hrs, with plenty of old fuel line to replace. I did the wires and the intake reseal and it still failed. I said "any further work by me will be paid straight time" I rolled my box out that day and right into a GM Dealer that same day. I made the most money I ever made at that Dealer but all good things must come to an end.
Great way to describe. I was thinking about getting it checked out because I just got the code on OBD but I figure that’s waste of time because I will need a new one regardless
this channel needs more subscribers.....considering how many VW's, Audi's, etc. are on the road.
+David Santiago thanks man. I appreciate it. Feel free to share it up. Haha
I am new to VW and have a CC with this engine that is having an issue with what you mentioned. On the arm that “ pops in and out” on the side goes into the flaps of the manifold, it is pulling a pretty large vacuum that i can feel with my finger. I can not push it in and out, into the manifold but the car stays high RPM at idle until i push the arm into the canister. Does this sound like an issue that i should replace the entire manifold with? I know you mentioned it’s difficult to repair parts on it, just looking for input, thanks!
2010 vw CC is covered until 2019/120k miles...just had the manifold replaced (flappers were sticking) and a carbon cleaning....the fuel injectors are also covered until 2019/120k miles
+Kyle Hurst I just had this happen to me and just got back from the VW Dealership. They stated that they updated the warranty to 120K miles. They did charge me for carbon cleaning which was 2 hours, and $15 of chemicals. Car runs considerably better. Thanks for the update on extended warranty on the fuel injectors also.
+Michael Aurzada no problem! glad I could help a fellow driver haha. I also had them fix two oil leaks since they had access to them with the manifold off...not cheap lol
great video, is this intake manifold from a gen 3 ea888 engine or gen 2?
I put new intake in to my Gti but the fault code still back. I tried to clean the code but coming back after 5 miles. What you think what’s the problem???
I have a 2008 Saturn Astra 1.8 code(P065E). The IMT( runner/flapper) valve uses a 3-wire position sensor with magnets. My question... (1) what does this code imply ? can it be fixed inexpensively and how to?
(2). can I do the delete IMT runner with no harm to engine?
Thanks
Looking at buying a used 2016 Tiguan with less than 40k, the manifold has already been replaced and they resurfaced the rotors. Could this be a good buy?
Will a swirl flap delete kit rectify this!? I've only seen delete kits for the other vw engine code. I just need to know if theres a blanking adaptor for this exact manifold. I drive a 2010 2.0 tsi with ea888 engine code
thanks for the video. I found it while troubleshooting P2014 fault on my 2015 Audi A3 (8V) (manifold runner position sensor). Car is running fine, but I would guess I need to get new manifold to clear this fault, although I may try to replace the sensor first.
How different is the US 2.0 TSI and the UK 2.0 TSI engine?
Thank you for this video! It helped show me exactly where the issue was with the manifold on my GTI.
Have you seen the piece that connects the motor to the valve actually break off? The arm that comes off the motor is floating by itself in front of the whole in my intake.
My spelling is atrocious.
Kbone12 Yep. seen one today
did you replace that piece and what is the piece called? mine keeps popping out.
I have an error saying INTAKE MANIFOLD FLAP 1 STUCK OPEN, would this be ( manifold fail) ??? cheers
ROCK AUTO IS THE WAY!
I got a question I got a 2015 jetta se 1.8t I replaced the cam sensor map sensor and did a tune up and cleaned off the intake valves of carbin and injectors and I still got a misfire on all 4 cylenders and I only notes it at a idle but no power los
I have the issue shown at 3:30 on my CDNC engine, with this arm popping out if the engine gets some load beyond very light throttle application. Why does this happen and what exactly broke on that part? And does this also need a replacement of the whole manifold or can this be fixed in some way?
My manifold failed on me 5 days ago, we saw the check engine light and got the P2015 code at 65000+ miles. Took the car to dealer and the manifold was cover by the extended warranty. Thanks for the heads up on that. We had the work done that you suggested and it cost us $525.00. Idk if they pulled a fast one on us, but they said if we did not change the spark plugs the car may start to back fire. so we changed them too.
The sparkplug thing depends on how bad they are. Glad you got the rest fixed up.
I think you mentioned this subject today live at Milwaukee tools.
Hello Nick how are you doing today? I got this problem on my 2009 VW EOS V4 2.0L Turbo. Code P2008 intake manifold runner control valve solenoid. What do you recommend to do please? I appreciate your comments.
Thank you.
Is this the same part that would be on a 2009 2.0 scirocco?Cheers
Charles, my carfax shows my intake manifold was replaced by the last owner. Where can I find a part number on the part to know if it's the latest one?
Just installed a new Manifold and I'm getting p2015. The old Manifold was broken so i was sure it would fix the problem but nope. Anything else that goes bad for p2015 or do i have to re learn new adaptions for the flaps?
So I've installed the latest intake manifold - I think it's 06J-133-201-BH - and I still have the dreaded P2016 fault... any ideas on how to eliminate this fault?
hey i have p0171 and p0507 code on tsi, and the intake manifold can be replaced under waranty, but do you think they will replace it if i have these codes.Like im pretty sure it is related to manifold problem, but want to get a second opinion.
they charge a stupid a diagnostic fee if the problem isnt related to the manifold .
Hey Charles, is there any common issues on the new 1.8t? What about the 2.0 TDI?
Not on the newest 1.8t. The tdi has a few issues. they have intake runner issues, pressure sensors and DPF concerns.
hello Humble i have audi s6 c7 4.0t, it says Intake Manifold Flap; Bank 2: Stuck Open and there is epc light and max engine rpm limited to 4000, what should i do to fix this problem, does this intake manifold need specific alignment before installing?
If I transfer old intake runner sensor to new updated intake I shouldn't have a problem ? because updated one has different last letter with (B) Do you need to calibrate this intake sensor when you change this intake manifold?
If I have the p2015 pop up with a lean code as well will it hurt the car if I drive it home to fix it? Can I just pop the arm back in if it has popped out to seal the vacuum lean just to make it home? I just don’t want to drive it if it’s really running lean and will hurt the engine. Thanks for the help
Hello, I was happy to see that a video exist to explain the dreadful error code P2015 "Potentiometre clapet tubulure admission - Signal incoherent" in French. I have a Passat CC 2008 engine BZB 1,8 TSI. Although the warning lamp lit every day, the car is still working normally. I will go the VW rep here in Genva to ask for free replacmeeent (I'am dreaming. here is Switzerland nothing is replaced for free . I had to replace the Clutch kit of my DSG 7 at 42'000 km. Too much vibrations between 1st and 2nd gear) . But that's another story. Maybe it's the last time a will drive a VW. I'll have to find a car not made of plastic, lol
I need your help! I have a 2009 Vw Cc, it has the code P2015 and check engine light, the engine doesn’t star and the mechanic told me that maybe is the fuel pump, what can I do? Thank you
if my mk6gti after a power shift to step 2 is no longer accelerating remains stuck, maybe this is the cause or engine valve? Pls help me . Thanks
What are the name or part number for the part that slide into the head into cylinder 1,2,3,4 and it slides into the middle pretty much separating the cylinders in half.
Hola. Como puedo verlo en español??
Muy interesante la pagina. Felicitaciones
Great video! I just got this error code for my 2014 GTI... unfortunately I’m out of PT warranty and of course, no warranty extension for my make/model 😂💀🤣. Good thing it’s not the lever arm so I can take some time to gather the $ to fix it out of pocket. Gg
Really like the videos but after all the "TSI fails", I feel like I'm driving a time bomb :(
They have their issues for sure. But not the worst engine VW has had.
I feel as if the egine is is very good, I have a 2010 vw cc with a 120k miles, when the water pump failed due to the pcv seal leaking, I just went a head and did everything all together, Intake, seals and gaskets for injectors, new pump and belt, walnut blasted the intake on the cylinder head, and mind you this is the only thing that i have done besides oil and filter changes
I just had my intake manifold fail this past weekend. The code is P2015,P2004 and it says Intake manifold flap, bank 1 stuck open
IF U HAVE CODE 2015 THE DILLER VILL REPLACE YOUR INTAKE MANIFOLD FREE OF CHARGE u OK TOLL 120 000 MILE
You are.
Does the intake manifold runner position sensor need to be adapted to the ECM if you are replacing the intake manifold.
Brandon Miller Not really, there is an adaptation, but I have seen repairs made and no adaptation done.
The back of the runner popping out can be fixed in place with a small pan head screw, like I did with mine. Pre-drill the hole and be sure to get it centered
May i see how you fixed that using a small pan head screw?
Hi i hv my engine check light on n once diagnosed it says intake manifold sensor. However after changing the sensor, the check light came back on again .
Any idea what could be the fault? Tq
I just did this manifold on a 2009 Audi A4 due to the arm pooping out . Good idea to sell a valve carbon cleaning while doing the intake manifold . I get 2 more hours to do the valves .
My diagnostic said the manifold was bad then 1 week later the check engine light started flashing and now the car is literally almost un drivable due to rev surging and sputtering like symptoms, is this caused by the manifold most likely?
hey, I have a 2.0tsi scirocco and the engine light came on. I checked what the problem was and the error code was p2015 intake manifold sensor. I reset it using the obcd but the engine light hasnt come back on, is there anyway that the manifold is fine? I don't notice any difference on how it drives and the light only came on once.
Have a boost issue old manifold had actuator tube blocked up new one installed and now when I hit 110km I get a boost error
Hey Charles. I got a p2009 code in my 2013 gli. You i replace the whole intake manifold?
Can/should you clean out the intake manifold while its out for valve carbon deposit cleaning?
In my mind i think it would be a great idea to brake clean all of the oil residue out of it to help keep the valves clean that much longer?
I plan to do it with my Audi A4 2.0l turbo soon
Great idea to clean the valves. Intake may be worth just replacing
@@HumbleMechanic ok. I take it the intake manifold is not that pricey then?
for the first failure where the arm popped out do you just pop it back in place or do you need to replace the complete manifold ??
You need to fix it. They have a repair kit for it these days.
One question ? I'm check a Audi A3 2014 1.8t in the scanner have 2 codes p2006 p2015 about intake manifuld control runner this problem. Can do the reparation cleaning o need some type the calibration? thanks sorry for my English i'm from México