Dunno if you guys gives a shit but if you guys are bored like me atm then you can watch all of the latest movies on instaflixxer. Have been watching with my brother these days =)
Many thanks for this Allen, I am a DIYer and always had issues with compression fittings leaking, so avoided them and used speedfit instead, following your tips I had used slic tite on a recent project....and No leaks!! thanks again mate
I was in the same boat as you Shishu, whenever I’ve used compression fittings without PTFE tape on the olives I always had tiny drops. I used jet blue plus paste on the olives of my recent DIY plumbing project and didn’t have one drip ! Such a relief.
That's really interesting Allen, thankyou. I've never used additional sealant on the olive (or thread) with a compression fitting but I've never had a leak that didn't stop once I further tightended the compression nut. I suspect though that I'm probably tightening the compression nut more than would be necessary if I'd just put a bit or additional sealant on prior to fitting. We live and we learn - thank again.
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No no no Alan. I can’t believe a guy of your experience is telling people to use LT 55 on a compression fittings. It’s designed for threads not olives. Bad advice. All that does is prevent the olive seating properly and leads to people over tightening the joint. People should only use a little bit of jointing compound. That’s all that is needed mate. Really enjoy your videos fella. Keep up the good work
Excellent video. Very well explained. Can I just ask at 13:20 on the video would you have to use an olive on the nut for the lock shield valve on the copper pipe. Thanks very much.
Hi Allen, for years I've used a smear of LSX on the olive then nip up, never any leaks. Doing full radiator replacement right now and will be using 577 based on your videos and LSX on the olives.
If only I had this information a few hours ago, I could've avoided the big f up I made today, laughing at my mistakes now but at the time it wasn't funny 😂oh well tmw is another day, will use your methods in confidence. Nice1 👍🏿
I have never seen ptfe used with olives before, I was always told the olive was sufficient to seal on its own as long as you don’t over tighten it. I use a small amount of ptfe on some threads that do not fit well.
Have seen many older pipes removed and folks have used Boss White and Flax/Hemp within same...asked an old Plumber about same , he said some in the Trade used that process as if you had a leak the Flax/Hemp would swell up ... suppose that was a Belt and Braces solution back then.
An excellent video. I like to make sure the olive is properly stuck on the pipe after making the joint. It is a fine balance between overtightening and not tightening enough so the olive could still slide off the pipe. I find that copper olives are much better and easier to work with than brass olives which take a lot more tightening to make a good joint. I would say if using compression fittings onto plastic pipe then a copper olive is essential to get a good seal.
would you use compression fittings when you know it will be buried under floors or supper hard to get to ? love your videos and i learn a lot from you mate . Top man
hi, great video, im a diyer , would it matter if i was to use a copper olive, im fitting a 3 way central heating 22mm valve or can i use the ones already fitted, thanks mate
Great videos, just a quick question, I on my meter, a 22mm compression Equal Tee installed to the meter Outlet before entering to the house, assuming this is going to the boiler, as this has a flexi gas pipe threaded connection. Is a compression fitting ok for gas? Secondly the pressure regulator has a stainless steel pipe that has now yellow cover like you have on the flexi gas pipes, and I notice a bit of corrosion on parts of this pipe, who is responsible for the upkeep of the meter pipework?
I've always used V2 compound. Never had a problem with it. Loctite 55 is brilliant, but I've only ever really used it for threads on irons, rad tails etc. Never thought to use it on olives. May give it a go.
All this time, I've been using the wrong kind of olives -the green ones with a bit of pimento inside. JK ... actually, I did like the part of your video in which you back it out of the fitting, and then it's evident that the metal buldges inside the fitting -to a regular bloke, like me, it seemed crazy that it would work without some kind of adhesive.
Cheers Allen, Is it possible to separate, clean and maybe re-use these fittings after using Loctite - is it an easy remove, clean and re-fit; how does it leave the radiator threaded hole plz?? Sorry to miver 🙈
Sir, is it possible to thread a non compression fip on there? For instance, if I have a compression fitting male can I attach a Sharkbite fip to push adapter on it?
I'm replacing a rad with a towel warmer and new square milano valves moved plastic pipes with ease to required measurements During procedure I Realised old olives don't come off and with only seconds until pipe thawed I desperately used the old olive and nut to the new milano valve Valves doing its job on test now but its a shame I have to use old stuff on a new installation but its OK for now 😔
Hiya pal would the Facebook group still be going I've started the the plumbers apprenticeship and could really do with this sort of help appreciate it I've already clicked now cheers pal .
Hi Allen I hope you don’t mind but I’m asking all who view your videos they if anyone close to south London has an old boiler sitting in a garage or shed that they haven’t got ride to taking to tip if they would let me have it to practice pulling parts and putting back together again. Thanks to anyone reading.
Hello, I would like to ask where to study heating and plumbing engineer, I am from Chile and I would like to study abroad, especially what is boilers, thank you
@@AllenHart999 Thank you very much for answering, I am from Chile and an authorized gas installer, I follow you in your videos and I try to understand just looking because I do not know English (😊), I did a mural boiler course but I would like to learn more about the calculation of radiant slabs , in fact I wanted to do an internship in some country that uses boilers a lot, that's why I follow you. I use google translator 🙂
The only reason to coat threads is to prevent rust depending on the environment. Behind the wall in a house not an issue. In a ship or industrial environments yeah it makes a difference not to seize your threads.
I know little about the plumbing industry but in wider industry you should not use PTFE on high pressure compression fittings. They are designed to seal on the taper. PTFE tape, loctite etc is only used to seal threads. I appreciate it might be a tried and tested back-up but to me it looks like the ptfe is just covering for a joint that isnt good.
Totally 100% agree, I actively discourage people working with me from using anything on compression fittings, it’s simply not needed, that is what the olive is for.
Allen Hart done a couple of Baxi 800, one last week, they have brass olives which I always place in the bin as it’s the best place for them, put copper olives on as I do with every fitting and they are fine to use with just the olives without anything else. Brass olives are the issue, just bin them.
PTFE tape on compression joints?? It's the olive which causes the fitting to be sealed nothing else. no need for any PTFE The seal relies on the face to face joint of olive for the seal nothing else. White : PTFE tape is designed to be used with NPT - BSP threads - water. "yellow" tape is for GAS fittings: Green: oil-free PTFE used on oxygen lines and some specific medical gasses.
You don't need anything the olive is enough, but its always good to pop PTFE or paste just incase, I use PTFE as it cleaner and I don't have to clean paste of my fingers
Many thanks for this Allen, I am a DIYer and always had issues with compression fittings leaking, so avoided them and used speedfit instead, following your tips I had used slic tite on a recent project....and No leaks!! thanks again mate
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Many thanks for this Allen, I am a DIYer and always had issues with compression fittings leaking, so avoided them and used speedfit instead, following your tips I had used slic tite on a recent project....and No leaks!! thanks again mate
I was in the same boat as you Shishu, whenever I’ve used compression fittings without PTFE tape on the olives I always had tiny drops.
I used jet blue plus paste on the olives of my recent DIY plumbing project and didn’t have one drip ! Such a relief.
The Olive 15mm You Can Get It On Rubber Like Gasket Instead Of Copper Even I Buy It To Be Honest It's Good For Easy Quick Fix And Long Lasting🎉🎉
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I've been a tiler for nearly 20 years and I am thinking about switching over to a bathroom fitter you videos are very informative thank you mate ❤
That's really interesting Allen, thankyou. I've never used additional sealant on the olive (or thread) with a compression fitting but I've never had a leak that didn't stop once I further tightended the compression nut. I suspect though that I'm probably tightening the compression nut more than would be necessary if I'd just put a bit or additional sealant on prior to fitting. We live and we learn - thank again.
You do not always need anything other than the olive but its a pain to drain down after and repair a leak. Thanks.
It's a pleasure to learn from people who know their trade and what they are talking about.
No ptfe showing looks better and is better. Another good vid. Thanks for taking the time to film. All the best Pete 👍
Hi Pete. Thank you.
Hi alan.. what happened to the gas rate video on smart meters? Its disappeared
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@@AllenHart999 thanks mate. I enjoy watching your vids.. find some of the servicing ones very useful 👍
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Thanks Allen. You taught me a valuable lesson about not to over-tighten the olive. Thanks.
Thank You
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Allen, apart from you needing a manicure this is simply the best instruction on copper fittings in the entire universe. Great stuff
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Thanks I gain allot with this experiment, this is my first time running water heater pipe for customer
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Another really good video for beginners Allen. Really clear information. 👍
Thanks so much.
No no no Alan. I can’t believe a guy of your experience is telling people to use LT 55 on a compression fittings. It’s designed for threads not olives. Bad advice. All that does is prevent the olive seating properly and leads to people over tightening the joint. People should only use a little bit of jointing compound. That’s all that is needed mate. Really enjoy your videos fella. Keep up the good work
Thanks for the feedback.
Guy of his experience lol,
Service engineer, never rated by anyone at BG
Thanks for video, was a great help in doing a bit of DIY and making it look a proper job
Excellent video. Very well explained. Can I just ask at 13:20 on the video would you have to use an olive on the nut for the lock shield valve on the copper pipe. Thanks very much.
Great down to the essence tutorial. Thank you!
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Excellent easy to understand and to the point , many thanks
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Hi Allen, for years I've used a smear of LSX on the olive then nip up, never any leaks.
Doing full radiator replacement right now and will be using 577 based on your videos and LSX on the olives.
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If only I had this information a few hours ago, I could've avoided the big f up I made today, laughing at my mistakes now but at the time it wasn't funny 😂oh well tmw is another day, will use your methods in confidence. Nice1 👍🏿
Very useful video mate . Thank you
I have never seen ptfe used with olives before, I was always told the olive was sufficient to seal on its own as long as you don’t over tighten it. I use a small amount of ptfe on some threads that do not fit well.
Your videos are gold!! Great to learn
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Thank you Allen. Great video.
Hi Allen thanks for good and clear explanation. I enrolled for plumbing course. I hope that you help me, if I watch all your videos.
Thanks Allen, for all your good advice. 👍😀
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Great video, not seen compression fittings so well explained before 👍👍. Worth mentioning that Slic Tite isn’t safe for use on potable water.
it says, For gas and hot and cold water on the label. Thanks.
Allen Hart can be used on hot or cold water, but the one I have in my toolbox explicitly says not for use on drinking/potable water systems.
I use Fernox LS-X leak sealer on compression fittings. I'm a sparky so I just use it when changing electric showers or water heaters.
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Have seen many older pipes removed and folks have used Boss White and Flax/Hemp within same...asked an old Plumber about same , he said some in the Trade used that process as if you had a leak the Flax/Hemp would swell up ... suppose that was a Belt and Braces solution back then.
An excellent video. I like to make sure the olive is properly stuck on the pipe after making the joint. It is a fine balance between overtightening and not tightening enough so the olive could still slide off the pipe. I find that copper olives are much better and easier to work with than brass olives which take a lot more tightening to make a good joint. I would say if using compression fittings onto plastic pipe then a copper olive is essential to get a good seal.
Really useful information. Thanks
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Great explanation Allen, this is the best way to install compression fittings, Loctite 55 beats PTFE all day long
Thanks.
Great demo-well explained👍
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great way to explain . well done sir
Really appreciate these videos man
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Another top video from Allen keeping coming please.
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Brilliant as usual Allen 👍
Not long now.
Great video and great information
Excellent, Allen ! Thank you.
My pleasure!
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Great teaching ! Thanks You !
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Thanks very much, very helpful video
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would you use compression fittings when you know it will be buried under floors or supper hard to get to ? love your videos and i learn a lot from you mate . Top man
You mentioned you need to "deblur" or "debur" the inside of the pipe, how do you do that?
hi, great video, im a diyer , would it matter if i was to use a copper olive, im fitting a 3 way central heating 22mm valve or can i use the ones already fitted, thanks mate
copper olives are ok. Thanks.
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Sorry keep them those videos coming Allen really like your work true professional.
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What was that deburring tool that you used on the white pipe? Thanks!
Great videos, just a quick question, I on my meter, a 22mm compression Equal Tee installed to the meter Outlet before entering to the house, assuming this is going to the boiler, as this has a flexi gas pipe threaded connection. Is a compression fitting ok for gas?
Secondly the pressure regulator has a stainless steel pipe that has now yellow cover like you have on the flexi gas pipes, and I notice a bit of corrosion on parts of this pipe, who is responsible for the upkeep of the meter pipework?
Great video Alan, I am a beginner and your videos are very helpful. Any chance you can do a video on how to take up floor boards correctly please?
Great suggestion!
Newbie here. Very helpful.
I've always used V2 compound. Never had a problem with it. Loctite 55 is brilliant, but I've only ever really used it for threads on irons, rad tails etc. Never thought to use it on olives.
May give it a go.
Is it the same way for stainless steel pipes?
Can I use a nylon olive with Copperpipe for a low-pressure cold water compression fitting?
Very helpful. Thanks
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Wow the sleeves got tightened to the pipe??? Because earlier was loose when you put in the olive????
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Great explanation
Hi Allen, good vid, can you use locktite 577 on olives?
No
All this time, I've been using the wrong kind of olives -the green ones with a bit of pimento inside. JK ... actually, I did like the part of your video in which you back it out of the fitting, and then it's evident that the metal buldges inside the fitting -to a regular bloke, like me, it seemed crazy that it would work without some kind of adhesive.
thank you for your advice
Liquid PTFE, saves time and very effective 👍
Stuart A I have never used that, What brand do you use? Thanks
I always use a bit of ptfe on the olive don’t bother with paste bastard goes hard after a few years
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Hi Allen, great channel.
Which product(s) do you use for tails and plugs into radiators please - where you probably once used PTFE and Boss White?
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Cheers Allen,
Is it possible to separate, clean and maybe re-use these fittings after using Loctite - is it an easy remove, clean and re-fit; how does it leave the radiator threaded hole plz??
Sorry to miver 🙈
Help please. Am so stuck can I fix a fkexi pipe directly to a tee fitting???
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Very informative.
Very interesting
What do you use Allen to fit TRVs on radiators? PTFE?
No, I don’t use PTFE at all now. I use lock tight
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great video thanks!
Great video, thank you so much 👍
Thank You
Sir, is it possible to thread a non compression fip on there? For instance, if I have a compression fitting male can I attach a Sharkbite fip to push adapter on it?
Not possible
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Hi Allen, Have you ever used FLOMASTA PTFE LIQUID 50G from screwfix. Supposed to be very good and reasonably priced also...
No i haven’t used it. TBH i really like the 577 and I do not mind paying a bit more for it. Thank you though.
Hemp and paste myself ❤️❤️❤️ if I have plenty of hemp it never gets wasted 🔥🔥🔥💤💤💤😂😂
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I'm replacing a rad with a towel warmer and new square milano valves moved plastic pipes with ease to required measurements
During procedure I Realised old olives don't come off and with only seconds until pipe thawed I desperately used the old olive and nut to the new milano valve
Valves doing its job on test now but its a shame I have to use old stuff on a new installation but its OK for now 😔
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I think, if you put some ptfe on the olive than the fitting becomes more flexible, doesn't leak when someone moves the pipe or hit it accidentally.
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Are these fittings ok to use long term in walls?
i want too put a copper pipe for my outside tap how do i go about do it
Not sure what you are asking?
Hiya pal would the Facebook group still be going I've started the the plumbers apprenticeship and could really do with this sort of help appreciate it I've already clicked now cheers pal .
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@@AllenHart999 already have Alan cheers
I usually put a bit of paste around the inner edge of the fitting
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Good video
Glad you enjoyed
thanks for this, I am guilty of PTFE on threads
Thank You
Good man 😊
Hi Allen I hope you don’t mind but I’m asking all who view your videos they if anyone close to south London has an old boiler sitting in a garage or shed that they haven’t got ride to taking to tip if they would let me have it to practice pulling parts and putting back together again. Thanks to anyone reading.
No problem at all. Thanks for watching.
Hello, I would like to ask where to study heating and plumbing engineer, I am from Chile and I would like to study abroad, especially what is boilers, thank you
How can I help you?
@@AllenHart999 Thank you very much for answering, I am from Chile and an authorized gas installer, I follow you in your videos and I try to understand just looking because I do not know English (😊), I did a mural boiler course but I would like to learn more about the calculation of radiant slabs , in fact I wanted to do an internship in some country that uses boilers a lot, that's why I follow you. I use google translator 🙂
Thanks!
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whilst watching your video ive brought loctite 55
i bet you was nearly throwing up putting ptfe on the threads hahahaha. always the kitchen fitters and builders
Haven’t used it for years 😂😂😂😂👍
Good video , Manicure 💅 would be no harm :) 🙉🥴
Thanks.
The only reason to coat threads is to prevent rust depending on the environment. Behind the wall in a house not an issue. In a ship or industrial environments yeah it makes a difference not to seize your threads.
very nic thank you
Thank you so much
You're most welcome
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So those fittings are just connecting because people are lazy to soder?
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what’s that olive whys that got a split
I know little about the plumbing industry but in wider industry you should not use PTFE on high pressure compression fittings. They are designed to seal on the taper. PTFE tape, loctite etc is only used to seal threads.
I appreciate it might be a tried and tested back-up but to me it looks like the ptfe is just covering for a joint that isnt good.
Totally 100% agree, I actively discourage people working with me from using anything on compression fittings, it’s simply not needed, that is what the olive is for.
@@kevint3845 Depends on the fitting. Baxi 800 needs a bit or they leak, Also the magnaclean filters. Thanks.
Allen Hart done a couple of Baxi 800, one last week, they have brass olives which I always place in the bin as it’s the best place for them, put copper olives on as I do with every fitting and they are fine to use with just the olives without anything else. Brass olives are the issue, just bin them.
better idea allen
Ive never used PTFE and compression
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@@AllenHart999 Allen hart thanks I’ve been here for a year waiting for a response
@@crypticham1053 You didn’t ask a question lol. Thanks.
@@AllenHart999 oh
just wrap PTFE round olive
You could do that as well. I do not really like PTFE. Thanks.
Cowboys use ptfe on olives
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PTFE tape on compression joints??
It's the olive which causes the fitting to be sealed nothing else. no need for any PTFE The seal relies on the face to face joint of olive for the seal nothing else. White : PTFE tape is designed to be used with NPT - BSP threads - water. "yellow" tape is for GAS fittings: Green: oil-free PTFE used on oxygen lines and some specific medical gasses.
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Sorry plastic pipe to a rad looks cheap
Agree with you on that Alex
Fewer joints though. I would normally use copper into rads though.
Completely unnecessary to use any PTFE or loctite 55 on compression fittings. Paste/ V2 plus paste is all you need.
You don't need anything the olive is enough, but its always good to pop PTFE or paste just incase, I use PTFE as it cleaner and I don't have to clean paste of my fingers
Depends on the fitting. Thanks.
Good video but you're taking too much time to explain 20 min for two couplings should be a bit half of that time.
Many thanks for this Allen, I am a DIYer and always had issues with compression fittings leaking, so avoided them and used speedfit instead, following your tips I had used slic tite on a recent project....and No leaks!! thanks again mate
thank you for your advice