Why Were Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration?

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  • Dr. John Bergsma, author of "Jesus and the Dead Sea Scrolls", reflects on the mass readings for August 6, 2021. If you have any further questions about this or any topic, feel free to leave them in the comment section below!
    Dn 7:9-10, 13-14
    PS 97:1-2, 5-6, 9
    2 Pt 1:16-19
    Mk 9:2-10
    Learn more about Dr. Bergsma's books at bit.ly/2ZXlJPQ...

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  • @jeffstumpf9129
    @jeffstumpf9129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Thank you, Dr. John. It makes sense now. Why hasn't this understanding been taught to the laity, before? We are hungry for deeper insight from our Church.

  • @capecodder04
    @capecodder04 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm a 59 year old cradle Catholic and I never knew the significance of Moses and Elijah showing up at the transfiguration.
    I loved your conversion story BTW; the one titled 3 reasons why I became Catholic (or similar wording). I've watched it several times over the past few years and have sent it to many people.
    Dominus Vobiscum
    Pax

  • @sarasofiacastro6750
    @sarasofiacastro6750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you, Dr. Bergsma! And Thank you St. Paul Center! God bless all who hear the Word through you. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @SheldonDsouza126
    @SheldonDsouza126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wow!!! Dr. Bergsma... Love that allusion and allegory.

  • @emilialyngdoh5490
    @emilialyngdoh5490 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always like to listen to you Dr John Bergsma

  • @lisam731
    @lisam731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you very much for this clear and great explanation. I went to catholic school up until 9th grade and this is the very first time that I hear the Transfiguration explained this way. Thank you again and God bless.

  • @joolz5747
    @joolz5747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the Transfiguration. Thank you for your teaching.

  • @kelly17333
    @kelly17333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cosmic royalty....that is beautiful. This teaching blew my mind. Thank you

  • @humphreyobanor866
    @humphreyobanor866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    God bless you Dr Bergsma

  • @stephenler3850
    @stephenler3850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank You Dr John. God Bless You 🙏

  • @angier.4826
    @angier.4826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Dr. Bergsma. Godshine on you and on St. Paul Center.

  • @emilialyngdoh5490
    @emilialyngdoh5490 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I waited for this feast the whole year, but in the end, on the very day of this beautiful feast of Light, I missed all its essence. I was suddenly lazy to pray and to connect myself that day.

  • @raphaelpetersamat9897
    @raphaelpetersamat9897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for the insight Dr.John n St.Paul Centre..
    GOD Bless..all the way from Borneo,Malaysia.🙏

  • @sumnerwaite6390
    @sumnerwaite6390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “Cosmic Royalty”, well said.

  • @marieleahy7033
    @marieleahy7033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for this explanation of the Transfiguration. It is great to see how the Old and the New Testaments are intertwined in this episode in the life of Christ. Greetings from Ireland. 🇮🇪

  • @carolplan171
    @carolplan171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Transfiguration - meditating on this my favorite miracle, I imagine myself in the presence of the three biblical, cosmic royalty, I would be frightened too as the three disciples who accompanied Jesus to Mt. Tabor.

  • @AJKPenguin
    @AJKPenguin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd like to think Christ's conversation with Moses and Elijah was the perfect example of the perfect man receiving intercession from two saints; they, in a sense of their interceding, helped prepare him, and hence the world, for the crucifixion and resurrection and glorification of the Truth.
    I first heard about the Transfiguration as the guide for asking the saints their prayers a few years ago. I only pray the idea isn't too novel, but rather closer to antiquity in age. : )

  • @exotericidymnic3530
    @exotericidymnic3530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dr. Bergsma, regarding the assumption of Moses, the time honored tradition has been that Deuteronomy 33:21 refers to Moses being buried in the land of Gad.

  • @ApostoladoPetrino
    @ApostoladoPetrino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great explanation

  • @erikatapia221
    @erikatapia221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful! Thank you Dr. John 🙏🏻🙌🏼 God bless

  • @hallower1980
    @hallower1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Many things in the Bible have significance on multiple levels. The "Son of Man" seems to be such a title. It not only fulfills messianic prophecy but emphasizes the God took on human nature for our sake. That form is a consequence of (derivative of = "Son of") His great love for us.
    I often see this mistake among theologians. They claim Jesus says something only to fulfill prophecy. But nothing the Lord does is an empty gesture, going through the motions merely to confirm a prediction. The actions have meaning in themselves, even apart from prophecy.

  • @ileana1143
    @ileana1143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Dr Bergsma! Amazing explanation. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @mazikode
    @mazikode 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Dr Bergsma!! Happy feast of the Transfiguration and God bless you

  • @karenbrooks4189
    @karenbrooks4189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this teaching, illuminating! God Bless from New Zealand 🙏✝️

  • @romanmarquez4551
    @romanmarquez4551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So amazing understanding the mean of each event from the bible.

  • @castoreyes
    @castoreyes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They were all previous pontifs (bridge builders) from what I learned from Christopher Carstens. And Jesus was about to build the ultimate bridge by his Crucifixion and Redirection.

  • @CatholicKen.
    @CatholicKen. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are truly excellent. Concise and full of inisght. A great blessing for us.

  • @ernestoespiritu5429
    @ernestoespiritu5429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EXCELLENT VIDEO. Thanks much, Dr. Bergsma.👍🙏❤️

  • @kjlkathandjohn6061
    @kjlkathandjohn6061 ปีที่แล้ว

    They were on the Mount because they each climbed their mountain in their respective times to meet with the LORD, and this is the meeting they had with the LORD before they returned down their mountain.
    Moses was slow walking, hearing something behind him about Jesus being said to the three disciples, so when he got back down he told Israel, "A prophet like me will be raised up; 'Listen to Him'."
    You experience the same 'presence' at Mass.

  • @nathanngumi8467
    @nathanngumi8467 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great insights!

  • @MsHburnett
    @MsHburnett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting. Th comparison between Jesus between 2 saints in the transfiguration and Jesus between 2 sinners. on calvary .

  • @ln1186
    @ln1186 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanation dr. Bergsma. I never understood the meaning of the “Transfiguration” before. Makes sense now, Mose being about the law and Elijah about prophets. Thank you!

  • @wreloise1
    @wreloise1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Reminded me …
    “THE MYSTERIES OF THE ROSARY
    Fourth Mystery of Light: The Transfiguration.
    "And after six days Jesus took with him Peter and James and John his brother, and led them up a high mountain apart. And he was transfigured before them, and his face shone like the sun, and his garments became white as light" (Mt 17:1-2). “

  • @reemsuekar8112
    @reemsuekar8112 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    AMEN. Thank you.

  • @standupstathentes6842
    @standupstathentes6842 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had taken the experience, for a long time, longer than I can remember when it started, that what the 3 Apostles saw on the Mount was a transcending of Space/Time where they beheld the opposite end of the visions/experiences of both Moses and Elijah meeting with Christ in their own lives. Thoughts?

  • @thomasjorge4734
    @thomasjorge4734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thus the Bodies already in Heaven are: Enoch, Moses, Elijah, Jesus and Mary.

    • @helenleach8491
      @helenleach8491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The apostles recognized Moses and Elijah from their conversation with Jesus, because I guess they wouldn't know what they looked like? So even before the Ascension there were saints in Heaven? In some bodily form?

    • @bobgriffin8306
      @bobgriffin8306 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Elijah's and Enoch's bodies can't be. They have not yet died, but will at the end of time when the AntiXP kills them, before they are resurrected and then taken up to heaven.
      How can an imperfect body be in the Presence of God, as yet undead? I suppose God could purify them , but perhaps they await in limbo for their return at the end

  • @rayc76knoxville
    @rayc76knoxville 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent. God Bless.

  • @chete4479
    @chete4479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you take the meaning of Transfiguration as : _Going Beyond Human Body own's limits_
    You can consider then , at least , 5 times Jesus is Transfigurated :
    1)mount Tabor , already seen.
    2) &3) after his resurrection , meets 2 times his apostles reunited , with Thomas later, going through the walls while the doors are closed.
    4) when Jesus walks over the Sea.
    5) according to Maria Valtorta : Jesus is Born crossing through Mary's womb walls to her own hands.
    That's why Mary is Virgin : before , during and after Jesus is Born.

    • @michaelmicek
      @michaelmicek 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But on point 5, Valtorta's work has been condemned by the Church.
      And I would say she's using an obsolete definition of "virgin".

  • @flyesouisi
    @flyesouisi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a parallel between Moses' receiving the Law which the people must "listen to," and which soon after was broken, and the Transfiguration?

    • @lindacowles756
      @lindacowles756 ปีที่แล้ว

      G'day, Lawrence Fortune! I understand what you mean, i.e., the Shema (Hear, O Israel) and "Listen to Him", meaning Jesus.

  • @nakagoseiryu6921
    @nakagoseiryu6921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Because Elijah and Moses will be the 2 witnesses in the future just like writren in Book of Revelation

  • @smeatonlighthouse4384
    @smeatonlighthouse4384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is a two fold reason why Moses and Elijah were at the transfiguration. Firstly, Moses represents the Law and Elijah represents the Prophets and when the disciples were trying to put them on a 'par' with the Lord Jesus by building them 3 tabernacles, then God intervened, covered them with His presence in the cloud and the Law and the Prophets disappeared, leaving the Son of God, Jesus Christ, supreme and the disciples were told to 'hear ye Him'. The Law and the Prophets were given only UNTIL the Son came and they now have no significance as regards hearing from God. We now have 'the Word' made flesh.
    Secondly - Moses is a type of those who have died, while Elijah is a type of those who will be caught up at the rapture to meet the Lord in the air. The transfiguration is a picture of the Lord coming in glory and those that love Him, meeting Him in the air.

  • @momochago2136
    @momochago2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your vídeo image says why are you here. Then your title talks about the transfigiration. I liked the teaching. Specially the info about son of man. but i was mislead by the title as to what the topic would be. I felt duped.

  • @bobgriffin8306
    @bobgriffin8306 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How could Mouses and Elijah enter Heaven before Our Lord in Triumph?
    I reckon Elijah is in limbo of some kind, undead, awaiting the end of time, while Moses is dead in limbo, soon to enter heaven with our Lord.

  • @capecodder04
    @capecodder04 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's up with that forced smile at the end John?

  • @javiergilvidal1558
    @javiergilvidal1558 ปีที่แล้ว

    That "smile" at the very end put me off for good!