I first saw this several years ago and I can't count the number of times I have revisited it or shared it with others. Life-changing 25 minutes. Thank you Seneca and Alain de Botton.
Simple, everyday philosophy. Don't expect the others to be perfect, don't expect every day to be Sunday. Without expecting perfection, you won't get angry by seeing that nothing's perfect.
No one thinks someone is perfect but they got angry because they ruined their happyness by their stupid words or silly reaction without realizing that it's not their business at all. Anyone has his/her own perspective so if they don't agree with someone 's lifestyle or life choice, they can choose to do or say anything else. No need to accuse them of doing something wrong.They're not authorized. Remember that truth.
RE: Element of surprise in anger Very true. When I changed jobs, I added a huge amount to my commute. At first, I was put off by others bad driving. -- not exactly angry, but certainly upset. After a few weeks, I just laugh. I expect people to drive badly; I have low expectations. Now, when I'm asked about the commute, I say things like, "It's great. No one's tried to kill me in days", or "No one has done anything really stupid in weeks!"
What seneca tried to say was to just be aware that things could go wrong and accept whatever manifests to you. Let loose of the urge to control everything.
Yea I agree with you, there are some moments where the right thing to do is get angry and fight back, most of the time it isn't, but there are those rare times.
Cannot change conditions. Our emphasis should be on uprooting and destroying negative causes, and causing in order to bring about favorable conditions. If we focus on our anger, we are less likely to see the true causes of the conditions which make us angry, instead leaping to the easiest solution so we can easily solve our internal problem rather than external ones
I understand where you're coming from - I think that every positive change begins with or is somehow related to anger. Accordingly, there are even cases where anger is justified. But it is not itself a method for solving the problems that cause it. Rather, it is a reaction to the effects of causes. Sometimes, these causes are out of our control and anger is wholly counterproductive - but even in the cases where the causes are under human control, it is merely a physical response that itself can
Pity present majority of world leaders are egotistical and lack empathy...If only they were philosophers what a different world we would all have .Unfortunately no one with a empty stomach has time and disposition for philosophy but eventually we will evolve again and one day happiness will be easier to attain.
Actually now we now that Nero was not that guy we usually portray as, he was indeed a populist actually, a bit crazy also because he enjoyed the pleasures of life and preferred art rather than war, and also he did not put on fire the Christians (as they thought and continued saying): Nero wasn't even in Rome when the fire started, he came after a while and tried also to help. Also his palace was open to anyone (that is why he is considered a populist). But still, he was a bit crazy. Not as Caligula though...
One book says to keep in mind that 90% of the things people worry about will never happen. The problem is that many bad things that will happen are things you never even thought about. But so what? We all die someday, rich and poor, happy and unhappy. After that nothing can hurt us, and we just rest forever.
What about issues like inequality that we feel unable to change? When it seems that no number of letters to your local MP or newspaper or shares on facebook make a difference to an apathetic culture, getting angry about it is futile. But apathy feels like a worse fate.
I think the Greek concept of balance is useful here. It is not good to have too many or too few expectations. Anger isn't always problematic. We have to be able to recognize, with reason and objectivity, which attitude we adopt.
‘Most of us stand poised at the edge of brilliance, haunted by the knowledge of our proximity, yet still demonstrably on the wrong side of the line.’ Alain de Botton, The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work (2009) Most of us stand poised at the edge of understanding the truth, not quite grasping that the daily accessing of the genius, and more, capabilities of the intelligence we each received at the moment of our creation is the process for accessing knowledge which proximates our empirically perspectivized knowledge with the truth that we feel our perception elucidates. ‘...our dealings with reality undermined by a range of minor yet critical psychological flaws (a little too much optimism, an unprocessed rebelliousness, a fatal impatience or sentimentality).’ Alain de Botton, The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work (2009) Our dealings with the reality of our perception are undermined by a range of moderate, yet overcomable, perspective flaws (vested-ness in information only masquerading as the truth, which both reside as clutter within our subconscious mind, and as a daily bombardment of biases and undue influences from the culture which surrounds each one of us.) ‘We are like an exquisite high-speed aircraft which for lack of a tiny part is left stranded beside the runway, rendered slower than a tractor or bicycle.’ Alain de Botton, The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work (2009) We humans possess genius, and more, capabilities of intelligence, which for lack of a tiny piece of individual understanding, leaves us stranded beside the highway of life, rendered stupider and slower by our free will choices to only meet the ‘average’ to ‘stupid’ levels of the norms and expectations of the culture in which we are compelled to exist to survive. Seek Truth. Seek Your Truth. Experience the happier-ness of accessing the Whole Truth. And then you’ll know. That is the truth. I am an everyman, if I can do it, anyone can.
I hear your point, I think. I feel that there is an element of choice in the sense that he could wait for an executioner to come to get him vs doing it himself in a way that's 'dignified' for lack of a better word. Y/N/Other?
How very interesting. In a post-industrial world of epidemic life-limiting and even life-diminishing depressions and anxiety disorders, a contemporary philosopher recommends the adoption of Seneca's pessimism. Note that Seneca passively accepted his own suicide by order of a maniac. Pessimism engenders passivity, not happiness. Pessimism is not exactly a life-flourishing world-view, as Seneca's death proves. de Botton is also an expert on Nietzsche, which is not mentioned in this video unfortunately, because Nietzsche's optimism is fiercely life-flourishing.
It's good to be realistic about yourself or the world. But if this is allowed to grow into zero expectations of yourself and the world, you can end up surrendering to a state of true misery and submission - for the expectations we have of ourselves touch on the subject of free will. We think it worth our time to care about certain things because we really think we have something to do or say about them; that we can affect the outcome. If we give that up, we subscribe to a fatalistic world view. One aspect of giving up on our hopes for a certain thing is that we are 'tamed' by that very thing. And zero expectations of your fellows can make you arrogant, aggressive and short-tempered, even though you predicted it - or for the very reason your prediction comes true every single time. So I would not recommend lingering on imaginings of worst case scenarios, but restrict such exercises to analyzing the things you need to care a bit more about to ensure they go well, and plan the things you specifically can do to improve the end result.
Western Philosophy is supposed to be about developing a holistic philosophical positioning which encompasses all other philosophical concepts, it is not just a study of what previous purported philosophers have said... The preeminent goal of philosophy should be that of encompassing a maximum of epistemological concepts through logical deduction with a minimum of hypotheses or axioms. That is, to take all of the philosophical isms out there and create the understanding of them all by the usage of one hypothesis or axiom, don’t you think?
Nah. Rational it is. If this world was so rational, than anger and frustration wouldnt be so common. The worst things happen to the best kind of people, and vice versa. That isnt quite rational, sure, but the world is the way it is.
Yes he had a choice of how he was going to die, by doing it himself or having others do it. Who knows what the details were. He could have fled but may not have had the time or could not take his family, and if he didn't follow Nero's orders his family may have been all killed. It seems like the choice was how he was going to die, doing it himself seems more dignified like you said. It seems he had no or very little choice in the matter of survival, his choice may have factors unknown to us. ;D
A fine presentation, though it elides the metaphysical keystone of Stoicism: that the cosmos is inherently rational. Without that underpinning reassurance, the Stoic acceptance of nature is hollow.
Yep, without divine providence, the philosophy as practiced in the Hellenistic and Roman age it would not hold logical bearing in the Supreme sense. However Marcus Aurelius reasoned that even without this universal logos and instead the world is guided randomly, the practical effects of living according to nature would be still of benefit to the individual in terms of promoting their overall well-being according to their human nature. So I wouldn't go and call it hollow, just misplaced.
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Its funny to discuss a philosopher without saying to what philosophy they adhered to. In this case Stoicism. Negative visualization, reduced expectation, and self deprivation are amazing tools of the stoics.
When he speaks of the elite killing a slave because he broke the glasses, I really don't think the focus is really about "expecting" the world to be without broken glasses, but instead, living in a world where people are treated like objects to be owned. I'm always thinking backwards, never could relate.
This one was general History Philosophy 101 or less, but his interpretation of Seneca's view of anger was very strange indeed. At the end Seneca was going to die anyway regardless of pleading anger whatever. Nero was a despot, total authority and a mad man. So it stands to reason that he slit his own wrists as told. But this scenario has no choice, and if there is choice getting angry fighting for self family survival is the right thing to do.The driver needs to get another job, he's a jerk. ;D
So you're saying that you're angry at world leaders because you think they have the capacity to change the world but they don't because they only care about themselves? I would advise you to watch the video again.
Not really. that dog was enjoying his run. I have run my Wolf all his life beside a bike on a leash held in my right hand on the handle bar. Sure he is bigger, but even smaller dogs enjoy a good run for a bit. For my wolf and I out for a run google the Utube "Hippie tripping with the white wolf." You should not be angry about the "poor" dog he's lovin' it..
Sorry but there are some historic mistakes in this video. 1. Seneca was not as harmless as you make him seem. During his career, he had affairs with women and liked money and luxury. 2. Not all rulers of his age were despotic tyrants, this only goes for Caligula and Nero, and Tiberius to a lesser degree. Augustus and Claudius were actually quite decent rulers. 3. Nobody got killed or tortured inside Neros Domus Aurea. The burning of Christians as living torches took place in the Gardens of Lucullus. Over long periods of his life, Nero hated the barbaric games and saw himself as a sophisticated artist. But he became a cruel sadist at the end of his life indeed.
+Pete Reynolds exactly, not only the dog but the idea aswell. i found myself slipping into fantasy's of that dog turning back to its undomesticated, wolflike form a shredding him and his silly bycicle to bits. .....howl at the moon and be free little hound!
Mr. sceptic, imagine yourself being dragged around by the neck behind a motorcycle. Empathy... You don't have to be a vegan to think minimizing the suffering of animals is a good thing. Was the dog suffering? Probably not much. But, it could have been hurt, and it wasn't a good spot to put him in just to illustrate the point.
How are you supposed to be peptimustic about going to papa john's when you ordered a pizza online and when you go to pick it up they said they didn't get the order and that they could make a pizza now. But it was a free pizza that you earned in rewards so they say they don't do anything about it. Then you ask your friend to check the order to see if It went through and it did. So you go back in and say it's fucking ridiculous.. And they fall the police on you
I am extremely furious with Seneca for his hypocrisy while in exile! He has made me ANGRY! If you know where to find his shade or reincarnation I want to know. This is not tu quoque critique of his views. I have very unkind words for this grandiloquent stoic himself.
He is wrong about seneca's advice in terms of meditation. Its more about meditating on what you could have done better in the day than future wrongs being done to you.
>born 1AD, most well known philosopher of his time I'm pretty sure that Jesus guy was a little more qualified and his teachings absolutely put him in the realm of philosophy.
I abhor how Botton makes that poor dog run at an excessive speed. How would Botton like it if someone tied HIM to a bicycle and made HIM run at the cyclist's whim? Botton should re-read Seneca's essay on Clemency!!! Botton, practice what Seneca preached!!!
So would a better comment be "Don't worry, everything will be terribly wrong and there is nothing you can do about it", conformist even mediocre but safe, there must be a middle point to avoid that.
I first saw this several years ago and I can't count the number of times I have revisited it or shared it with others. Life-changing 25 minutes. Thank you Seneca and Alain de Botton.
Alain de Botton's translations into easy to understand English are absolutely masterful.
Your mum is masterful
"What need is there to weep over parts of life ? the whole of it calls for tears "
Simple, everyday philosophy. Don't expect the others to be perfect, don't expect every day to be Sunday. Without expecting perfection, you won't get angry by seeing that nothing's perfect.
No one thinks someone is perfect but they got angry because they ruined their happyness by their stupid words or silly reaction without realizing that it's not their business at all. Anyone has his/her own perspective so if they don't agree with someone 's lifestyle or life choice, they can choose to do or say anything else. No need to accuse them of doing something wrong.They're not authorized. Remember that truth.
RE: Element of surprise in anger
Very true. When I changed jobs, I added a huge amount to my commute. At first, I was put off by others bad driving. -- not exactly angry, but certainly upset. After a few weeks, I just laugh. I expect people to drive badly; I have low expectations. Now, when I'm asked about the commute, I say things like, "It's great. No one's tried to kill me in days", or "No one has done anything really stupid in weeks!"
Good videos. Keep making these documentaries. We need to bring philosophy back to life!
What a great video. The philosophy is adapted to the present moment, affirming its "modernity".
Fantastic job ! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and much about the life of Seneca.
Thank you so much for these videos.........!!! We need more of this pumped into society's brain.....
Indeed. It is often the victors who choose what is written..
Every self-help trainer should see this, so that they realize how cruel their approaches are.
Brilliant. Loved every informative moment of this.
10:00 damn let the dog BREATH!
School of Life brought me here. Thanks, Alain de Botton.
What seneca tried to say was to just be aware that things could go wrong and accept whatever manifests to you. Let loose of the urge to control everything.
What im tryin` to say is, you actually are a Eichelrinde")
Yea I agree with you, there are some moments where the right thing to do is get angry and fight back, most of the time it isn't, but there are those rare times.
Good documentary overall goes hand in hand with the last one on Epicurus on happiness.
ounce u are strangled and are then takin off the leash, that is when you truly become free.
I understand how ongoing overestimated optimism is cruel and destructive and even suicidal...
such a great work...thank you.
there more I learn about philosophy the more I realize I live like a philosopher already
LOL 10:17 "It should at times follow the chariot, or in this case the bicycle as the budget was limited..." he just quickly throws that in there
Cannot change conditions. Our emphasis should be on uprooting and destroying negative causes, and causing in order to bring about favorable conditions. If we focus on our anger, we are less likely to see the true causes of the conditions which make us angry, instead leaping to the easiest solution so we can easily solve our internal problem rather than external ones
I understand where you're coming from - I think that every positive change begins with or is somehow related to anger. Accordingly, there are even cases where anger is justified. But it is not itself a method for solving the problems that cause it. Rather, it is a reaction to the effects of causes. Sometimes, these causes are out of our control and anger is wholly counterproductive - but even in the cases where the causes are under human control, it is merely a physical response that itself can
It is taking responsibility for our reactions and life.
Negative visualization is the key to peace.
This video will help me to improve my videos and content .... Thanks.. for uploading..
+Manish Sharma no it didnt, ur videos are still trash
Pity present majority of world leaders are egotistical and lack empathy...If only they were philosophers what a different world we would all have .Unfortunately no one with a empty stomach has time and disposition for philosophy but eventually we will evolve again and one day happiness will be easier to attain.
So a man teaching about the horrors of Nero's tyranny plays Nero the tyrant with a poor little pooch at 9:50.
Part of the reason why we have social change. Had we took Seneca's advice, the world would still be in the dark ages relative to what we have now.
This was not one of the reasons I called myself SENECA but it plays into it
Salve Seneca! 😊
Just love it
It would be nice to think that's right.
Actually now we now that Nero was not that guy we usually portray as, he was indeed a populist actually, a bit crazy also because he enjoyed the pleasures of life and preferred art rather than war, and also he did not put on fire the Christians (as they thought and continued saying): Nero wasn't even in Rome when the fire started, he came after a while and tried also to help.
Also his palace was open to anyone (that is why he is considered a populist). But still, he was a bit crazy. Not as Caligula though...
One book says to keep in mind that 90% of the things people worry about will never happen. The problem is that many bad things that will happen are things you never even thought about. But so what? We all die someday, rich and poor, happy and unhappy. After that nothing can hurt us, and we just rest forever.
What about issues like inequality that we feel unable to change? When it seems that no number of letters to your local MP or newspaper or shares on facebook make a difference to an apathetic culture, getting angry about it is futile. But apathy feels like a worse fate.
I also have this concern, though overall I think I agree with him. No social progress would ever have happened if there total apathy.
I think the Greek concept of balance is useful here. It is not good to have too many or too few expectations. Anger isn't always problematic. We have to be able to recognize, with reason and objectivity, which attitude we adopt.
Interesting video did anyone else watch this from DCCC for Professor Keysers Philosophy class?
Rob Buffum yesss I watched this
VEDANT 19 did we take it together?
Rob Buffum I believe so
‘Most of us stand poised at the edge of brilliance, haunted by the knowledge of our proximity, yet still demonstrably on the wrong side of the line.’ Alain de Botton, The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work (2009)
Most of us stand poised at the edge of understanding the truth, not quite grasping that the daily accessing of the genius, and more, capabilities of the intelligence we each received at the moment of our creation is the process for accessing knowledge which proximates our empirically perspectivized knowledge with the truth that we feel our perception elucidates.
‘...our dealings with reality undermined by a range of minor yet critical psychological flaws (a little too much optimism, an unprocessed rebelliousness, a fatal impatience or sentimentality).’ Alain de Botton, The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work (2009)
Our dealings with the reality of our perception are undermined by a range of moderate, yet overcomable, perspective flaws (vested-ness in information only masquerading as the truth, which both reside as clutter within our subconscious mind, and as a daily bombardment of biases and undue influences from the culture which surrounds each one of us.)
‘We are like an exquisite high-speed aircraft which for lack of a tiny part is left stranded beside the runway, rendered slower than a tractor or bicycle.’ Alain de Botton, The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work (2009)
We humans possess genius, and more, capabilities of intelligence, which for lack of a tiny piece of individual understanding, leaves us stranded beside the highway of life, rendered stupider and slower by our free will choices to only meet the ‘average’ to ‘stupid’ levels of the norms and expectations of the culture in which we are compelled to exist to survive.
Seek Truth.
Seek Your Truth.
Experience the happier-ness of accessing the Whole Truth.
And then you’ll know.
That is the truth.
I am an everyman, if I can do it, anyone can.
why is this not a channel? am i missing something?
I hear your point, I think. I feel that there is an element of choice in the sense that he could wait for an executioner to come to get him vs doing it himself in a way that's 'dignified' for lack of a better word. Y/N/Other?
How very interesting. In a post-industrial world of epidemic life-limiting and even life-diminishing depressions and anxiety disorders, a contemporary philosopher recommends the adoption of Seneca's pessimism. Note that Seneca passively accepted his own suicide by order of a maniac. Pessimism engenders passivity, not happiness. Pessimism is not exactly a life-flourishing world-view, as Seneca's death proves. de Botton is also an expert on Nietzsche, which is not mentioned in this video unfortunately, because Nietzsche's optimism is fiercely life-flourishing.
It's good to be realistic about yourself or the world. But if this is allowed to grow into zero expectations of yourself and the world, you can end up surrendering to a state of true misery and submission - for the expectations we have of ourselves touch on the subject of free will. We think it worth our time to care about certain things because we really think we have something to do or say about them; that we can affect the outcome. If we give that up, we subscribe to a fatalistic world view.
One aspect of giving up on our hopes for a certain thing is that we are 'tamed' by that very thing.
And zero expectations of your fellows can make you arrogant, aggressive and short-tempered, even though you predicted it - or for the very reason your prediction comes true every single time.
So I would not recommend lingering on imaginings of worst case scenarios, but restrict such exercises to analyzing the things you need to care a bit more about to ensure they go well, and plan the things you specifically can do to improve the end result.
could it be that the higher expectations you have the richer you get?
thank you for Sharing:)
Western Philosophy is supposed to be about developing a holistic philosophical positioning which encompasses all other philosophical concepts, it is not just a study of what previous purported philosophers have said...
The preeminent goal of philosophy should be that of encompassing a maximum of epistemological concepts through logical deduction with a minimum of hypotheses or axioms. That is, to take all of the philosophical isms out there and create the understanding of them all by the usage of one hypothesis or axiom, don’t you think?
Welcoming all cynics. Join the club. Things are surprisingly brighter than you would anticipate, despite the grim outlook on people and things!
7:24 shouldn't it have been " anger arises from irrationally held ideas about the world" instead of "...rationally ...."?
Nah. Rational it is.
If this world was so rational, than anger and frustration wouldnt be so common. The worst things happen to the best kind of people, and vice versa. That isnt quite rational, sure, but the world is the way it is.
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Makes me wonder if the self-fulfilling prophecy ever comes into play with the advantages of premeditation...
Yes he had a choice of how he was going to die, by doing it himself or having others do it. Who knows what the details were. He could have fled but may not have had the time or could not take his family, and if he didn't follow Nero's orders his family may have been all killed. It seems like the choice was how he was going to die, doing it himself seems more dignified like you said. It seems he had no or very little choice in the matter of survival, his choice may have factors unknown to us. ;D
A fine presentation, though it elides the metaphysical keystone of Stoicism: that the cosmos is inherently rational. Without that underpinning reassurance, the Stoic acceptance of nature is hollow.
Yep, without divine providence, the philosophy as practiced in the Hellenistic and Roman age it would not hold logical bearing in the Supreme sense. However Marcus Aurelius reasoned that even without this universal logos and instead the world is guided randomly, the practical effects of living according to nature would be still of benefit to the individual in terms of promoting their overall well-being according to their human nature. So I wouldn't go and call it hollow, just misplaced.
Is it just me or does the thing end at 0:17 ?
24 minutes on Seneca without once mentionning stoicism? o_O
No time, he's too busy tying a dog up to his bicycle.
the entire video is about stoicism. I don't think seneca ever mentioned "stoicism" either.
Ah, you had expectations! Irony. ;)
Does this make you angry?
you have shown me the fire teams, the squads, the companies, the battalions... but where is the division?
The music is too loud. . You should balance the music so the narrative is prominent. You are not selling the music you are selling the narrative. I am a retired advertising . Executive and I have produced hundreds of tv commercials. I. ALWSYS LET THE MUSIC BE IN THE BACKGROUND.
Remember .... the product is king. I really hope you get this message and received your sound track.
Julian Macdonald
You're right. The loud music was quite distracting at times.
Any comments on the actual content though Mr. advertising executive?
Its funny to discuss a philosopher without saying to what philosophy they adhered to. In this case Stoicism. Negative visualization, reduced expectation, and self deprivation are amazing tools of the stoics.
The man teaches about the special freedom of reason like a boss, while the puppy reminds me of the typical nine to fiver.
When he speaks of the elite killing a slave because he broke the glasses, I really don't think the focus is really about "expecting" the world to be without broken glasses, but instead, living in a world where people are treated like objects to be owned. I'm always thinking backwards, never could relate.
Unrealistic expectations.
Ta Daaa!
Don't recall him mentioning anger, just "pity"
or perhaps it was not being able to leave the horrifying life that he found himself forced to remain in, and the awful times for others around too?
This one was general History Philosophy 101 or less, but his interpretation of Seneca's view of anger was very strange indeed. At the end Seneca was going to die anyway regardless of pleading anger whatever. Nero was a despot, total authority and a mad man. So it stands to reason that he slit his own wrists as told. But this scenario has no choice, and if there is choice getting angry fighting for self family survival is the right thing to do.The driver needs to get another job, he's a jerk. ;D
Nero did kill him at the end
In all seriousness though, it's only a six part series, not much good for a channel with so few videos.
So you're saying that you're angry at world leaders because you think they have the capacity to change the world but they don't because they only care about themselves? I would advise you to watch the video again.
Give him a monocle and he could be mistaken for Colonel Klink.
Huh. Same thing was on The Borgias tonight.
it never died.
Good ending ^ ^
bike + dog = great :-D
tHe lady at 16:00 - real peach there.
Not really. that dog was enjoying his run. I have run my Wolf all his life beside a bike on a leash held in my right hand on the handle bar. Sure he is bigger, but even smaller dogs enjoy a good run for a bit. For my wolf and I out for a run google the Utube "Hippie tripping with the white wolf." You should not be angry about the "poor" dog he's lovin' it..
They might have been moray eels, not lampreys.
oh yes ladies
10:20 a bycicle if the budget was limmited haha
this guy write about triangles?
Sorry but there are some historic mistakes in this video.
1. Seneca was not as harmless as you make him seem. During his career, he had affairs with women and liked money and luxury.
2. Not all rulers of his age were despotic tyrants, this only goes for Caligula and Nero, and Tiberius to a lesser degree. Augustus and Claudius were actually quite decent rulers.
3. Nobody got killed or tortured inside Neros Domus Aurea. The burning of Christians as living torches took place in the Gardens of Lucullus. Over long periods of his life, Nero hated the barbaric games and saw himself as a sophisticated artist. But he became a cruel sadist at the end of his life indeed.
What is the poor to weep over parts of life when all of it calls for tears...
Isn't anyone angry about him dragging a tiny dog behind a bicycle? What a prick.
Pete Reynolds Yes, that did look a bit rough.
+Pete Reynolds exactly, not only the dog but the idea aswell. i found myself slipping into fantasy's of that dog turning back to its undomesticated, wolflike form a shredding him and his silly bycicle to bits. .....howl at the moon and be free little hound!
Pete Reynolds lol na not angry because the dog is obviously enjoying himself
It is a basic premise of Stoicism. If you don't accept your circumstances you will be unhappily dragged along.
Mr. sceptic, imagine yourself being dragged around by the neck behind a motorcycle. Empathy... You don't have to be a vegan to think minimizing the suffering of animals is a good thing. Was the dog suffering? Probably not much. But, it could have been hurt, and it wasn't a good spot to put him in just to illustrate the point.
Aliens. That one guy's hair.
Depressing.
...just like the driver knew people would drive poorly. I think you should watch it again - you clearly missed the point.
Had we taken Seneca's advice...
How are you supposed to be peptimustic about going to papa john's when you ordered a pizza online and when you go to pick it up they said they didn't get the order and that they could make a pizza now. But it was a free pizza that you earned in rewards so they say they don't do anything about it. Then you ask your friend to check the order to see if It went through and it did. So you go back in and say it's fucking ridiculous.. And they fall the police on you
I am extremely furious with Seneca for his hypocrisy while in exile! He has made me ANGRY! If you know where to find his shade or reincarnation I want to know. This is not tu quoque critique of his views. I have very unkind words for this grandiloquent stoic himself.
All of our emotions are results of expected features of life. This is why Seneca was wrong.
He is wrong about seneca's advice in terms of meditation. Its more about meditating on what you could have done better in the day than future wrongs being done to you.
>born 1AD, most well known philosopher of his time
I'm pretty sure that Jesus guy was a little more qualified and his teachings absolutely put him in the realm of philosophy.
But Seneca was real?
+Alex Dog Yeah, but Seneca was never a zombie. Zombies make the best philosophers, I read it in my bibble.
Victoria Pearson bUT i READ IN MY BIBBLE, jESUS WAS A BLACKULA, NOT A ZOMBIE?
Alex Dog omg this changes everything!!!!
Point I meant point.lol
I abhor how Botton makes that poor dog run at an excessive speed. How would Botton like it if someone tied HIM to a bicycle and made HIM run at the cyclist's whim? Botton should re-read Seneca's essay on Clemency!!! Botton, practice what Seneca preached!!!
What's he doing to that poor dog.... That's NOT okay!!!
So would a better comment be "Don't worry, everything will be terribly wrong and there is nothing you can do about it", conformist even mediocre but safe, there must be a middle point to avoid that.
That woman stresses me out...she says "uh huh and yeah" totally at the wrong times in the conversations
lololololo
Christianity seems to overlap Stoicism. Seneca's death to Jesus'
this guy again lol
u mad?
No, you're just poor.