So he interviews a girl who just broke up with her boyfriend, gets all inside her head with his sharing of philosophies, and then after captivating her with his knowledge ask her out on a date.....genius.
I think it's quite wise to make the distinction that love doesn't equal happiness. Love can also make you sad. Therefore, let your pursuit of happiness be an independent one. Accept that love doesn't always work out but you can be empowered to make yourself happy despite it.
Alain De Botton is someone I would have loved to have as a friend , to be part of my group of lifelong friends. I admire his intellect and his achievement , and most of all , his natural down to earth manner .
At the end---very smooth Alain. I think schop has a lot to say about the matter because he has been rejected, he was abke to think about it more and experience the pain first hand. Sometimes people learn more about something when they lack it rather than when they have it.
Most definitely. I've never though really about rejection until I was the one on the bad side of the boot - and it was one of the best things that could ever happened to me, even if it resulted in the darkest, saddest and isolated periods of my life. I find it awesome and very interesting when someone writes about past experiences with a philosophical view. I'm just kind of sad that he (Schopenhauer) suffered so much. To me, it seemed he was looking for game in the wrong places. From my experience, it was extremely hard to find interesting girls/women in my city, but once I've went to a bigger one..every night I'd meet someone that made my eyes glow. And yep, dat smoothness on the end, thou. Alain de Romance :D
I've now watched all six of these - by chance I saw this one last, which was a piece of luck because it's certainly the funniest and most entertaining of the six. The one on Nietzsche should be number five and this one six, to end on. All six are jewels however and real food for the soul - it's good to know A de B is out there. Of course this excellent BBC series is not available on DVD - there isn't the market for it. Ah well, we must be philosophical.
Having now watched 5 of these, I have to say thank you for sharing yourself with us like this. One can tell you are somewhat shy, yet so "lit up" by your work and your passion for philosophy. It is quite beautiful. Plus, I've learned a good bit. I love now having a sort of basic sense about these big names in philosophy. Thank you for that.
La plus grande addiction de tout les temps le besoin de se sentir aimer, quand tout les sages nous ont bien montrer que notre nature est d'aimer. Encore merci pour ces documentaires bien fait.
OMG this video is amazing I feel like I am understood, there are people in this world that understand how I think lol I came across Schopenhauer by accident and I am so glad I came across him, I can't express my joy using words! thanks for a great video
Very interesting. I have landed myself in a less than magnificent situation. Makes me think. Happiness was never really the plan. Yes, that is consoling. Thank you for making this video available to us!
Great ending, with him asking her to dinner! All throughout that interview I asked myself why her boyfriend left her. She's quite pretty, seems intelligent, nice person, willing to do anything for the relationship....what was the problem? She actually said, "maybe". Wonder what happened. :-)
16:34 "Human existence must be a kind of error. It's bad today and everyday it will get worse until the worse of all happens." That' s deep. Like maybe all life is a mistake.
Even experiencing hell on earth is still better than not being able to experiencing anything at all, not to exist from the begin with. I’m not trying to justify misery. Just trying to show that life is always worth it.
Just wonderful. We should all heed the words of these philosophers. Read philosophy and learn about the real world in which you live. Free yourself from the control of yourself and others. Read ancient literature and see how we are not so different than they were. This gives consolation because it shows how human we are but that we have not learned any of the lessons from the past, which is unfortunate. Learn the lessons, practice them every day and then it will become you. Read Marcus Aurelius.
@13:14"..And so ensure our children are proportioned in limb and stable of mind." While the narrator gave examples of attraction from physical imbalances, did Schopenhauer believe that imbalances in the mind are also drawn to eachother?
Alian just has explained us that love has nothing to do with a wish to have babies... so I wish all and every one could fall in love and be happy as long as it last within teh frames of the relaitonships wihtout chilling thought at the back of their mind "I have to serve the nature, I have to bring another human being in this crasy world" ...
There is only one inborn error, and that is the notion that we exist in order to be happy... So long as we persist in this inborn error... the world seems to us full of contradictions. For at every step, in things great and small, we are bound to experience that the world and life are certainly not arranged for the purpose of maintaining a happy existence... hence the countenances of almost all elderly persons wear the expression of what is called disappointment.” ― Arthur Schopenhauer
No, it's old school BBC practice started by David Attenborough in the 1970's, ever notice he's always in the same blue shirt and khaki's? When they film using multiple locations it means they can edit bits in from all over the place and not have to worry about continuity. I suspect the vanity of US on screen talent has prevented the practice crossing the pond.
I agree that we are unconsciously motivated to seek love for the purpose of our species's survival. However, it might not be the sole reason for that. Probably, due to the elation we feel when we love, we just get addicted to such feeling and seek relationships for the ecstasy.
How to date the woman of your dreams in three easy steps 1) Make 6 episode documentary about happiness 2) Subtely fit in an episode about Schopenhauer's will-to-life theory 3) Interview the woman on that subect to explain to her the theory, and ask her out with a brilliantly set-up pick-up line.
"Fools rush in where wise men never go. But wise men never fall in love, so how are they to know?" Just because somebody wrote books two centuries ago, that are taught in university classes of philosophy, doesn't mean that person's notions are necessarily valid and true today. Schopenhauer made some brilliant statements, but that doesn't mean his remarks about love are any more worth taking seriously in 2015 than anybody else's remarks on the subject.
My sentiments exactly. I understood his theory in relationship to heterosexual reproduction. But "love" in regards to homosexuality according to his theory wouldn't apply.
I don't agree with Shopenhauer on this. I think the reason we look for love is the need of being accepted, understood, seen and loved (like our mother did). I never wanted to reproduce for example, never even played with dolls nor wanted to be a mother. But I did need to feel accepted and appreciated. Plus, a good amount of people are homosexual or asexual and they fall in love without the need to reproduce either.
sure, but I think it's reasonable to strike a difference between romantic love and other kinds. also, modern evolutionary biology makes it clear that Schopenhauer's biological approach to can be extended to familial love.
I think Schopenhauer's explanation of love is a bit short-sided as it does not explain love other than between a couple that has the ability to procreate. What about loving a child? What about loving a parent? I would be hard-pressed to believe that we are aiming to procreate with them when we have those kinds of feelings for them.
Sad that the woman doesn't get it. Rejection in a relationship is based in instinct, it isn't personal, although it SEEMS very personal. He was trying to show her a way to take it less personally, but she didn't accept it.
The essence was logical. BUT, why would a person dump the partner after a long relationship ? He/she was interested in his/her partner initially for balancing out the characteristics of the future children, but later realised that the will to gain individual satisfaction is more important than the interest of the species' reproduction ? This is contradictory - as he/she should not have selected their partner in the first place - if they knew their partner will not be able to produce more "average" children. Other reasons might well as be other personal or financial or social reasons. Also, he/she might have realised later that the characteristics they were thinking of averaging out were merely superficial and hence there is a need to find someone better.
How often do we even consider the reason why we want to have sex being actually about wanting to make babies? Not often I think. The urge of love and sex and the desire of these rarely is about wanting to reproduce. This is one of the important differences between Humans and nearly every other living creature on this earth. Love still is very interesting……probably is just based on desire and the hope that by attaining this person we love will perfect our imperfect selves.
I don't believe there is such thing as 'gay love' or 'hetero sexual' love, there is just love. There is love, there is splenda(sustitute 4 sugar), and there is a daily aspirine that makes life bearable.
@@horizon5677 NO LOOOL I FAILED HARD aaaaah, so young and naive I was... I'm solo poly though. Ended a relationship for that decision. Primary partner is... me myself and I. Don't think in terms of relationships, only in terms of connections. 6th love language is the most important one to me (and also the only one I know lol): distance. So in some ways... yes, keeping that decision. But not without failure! In PRAXIS, some desires are umm, just as strong as highly concentrated caloric intake... So I guess I'll have to find a way to dialectically go through a proces and learn to live with... some earthly desires, and get back to the peace and quiet of the straight edge mind. Summary: single forever and fighting earthly desires.
Alain is a God, I would rather die before asking a girl that way. But it was a mini-presentation of Will Zum Leben; He and that girl could have not made biologicaly balanced children, take a closer look and you can notice why. He wanted to show us that :)
this one was a bit too brain centric for me. I can only think about how evolution works. The DNA inside us dictates us, one way or another, to replicate. Otherwise there wouldn't have been DNA-based life on Earth, would it ? So no, we are not confined to the rationale or platitude of species survival, but to the DNA chemistry of the same
Just find a partner who treats you well and makes you happy, then have sex with attractive women/ men on the side. Don't try to find the one who will both make you happy and will remain sexually attractive forever: no such person exists. And it's a bad idea to put all of your eggs in one basket- could lead you to suicide or a schopenhaur world view when things don't work out.
Schopenhauer isn't very good at all, the least interesting of this series, I wonder if the first homo-sapiens felt emotional attachment the same as we do, when they had only basic ways of communicating, I would say they did. Love is something beyond emotional attachment, something that manifests as we evolved and got to intelligent and self aware to be mere animals anymore.
Eh, I can't really agree with the biological thing. Not everyone wants kids.
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That's true. But Schopenhauer meant that our sexual desires are an subconscious will that we all have inside us. I, for example don't ever want to have children. But I still have the desire to have sex, and that desire is exactly what is being discussed in this video.
So he interviews a girl who just broke up with her boyfriend, gets all inside her head with his sharing of philosophies, and then after captivating her with his knowledge ask her out on a date.....genius.
she rejected tho
she *does* look like his wife :O
its simple we all want new experiences in life and everybody wants a good fuck in bed with a good looking women. Its very hard to become a true saint.
Fuckin legend
I think it's quite wise to make the distinction that love doesn't equal happiness. Love can also make you sad. Therefore, let your pursuit of happiness be an independent one. Accept that love doesn't always work out but you can be empowered to make yourself happy despite it.
In sadness I do love a woman. - Romeo/Shakespeare
Alain De Botton is someone I would have loved to have as a friend , to be part of my group of lifelong friends. I admire his intellect and his achievement , and most of all , his natural down to earth manner .
At the end---very smooth Alain.
I think schop has a lot to say about the matter because he has been rejected, he was abke to think about it more and experience the pain first hand. Sometimes people learn more about something when they lack it rather than when they have it.
Most definitely. I've never though really about rejection until I was the one on the bad side of the boot - and it was one of the best things that could ever happened to me, even if it resulted in the darkest, saddest and isolated periods of my life.
I find it awesome and very interesting when someone writes about past experiences with a philosophical view.
I'm just kind of sad that he (Schopenhauer) suffered so much. To me, it seemed he was looking for game in the wrong places. From my experience, it was extremely hard to find interesting girls/women in my city, but once I've went to a bigger one..every night I'd meet someone that made my eyes glow.
And yep, dat smoothness on the end, thou. Alain de Romance :D
This video can literally save lives.
I've now watched all six of these - by chance I saw this one last, which was a piece of luck because it's certainly the funniest and most entertaining of the six. The one on Nietzsche should be number five and this one six, to end on. All six are jewels however and real food for the soul - it's good to know A de B is out there. Of course this excellent BBC series is not available on DVD - there isn't the market for it. Ah well, we must be philosophical.
Having now watched 5 of these, I have to say thank you for sharing yourself with us like this. One can tell you are somewhat shy, yet so "lit up" by your work and your passion for philosophy. It is quite beautiful. Plus, I've learned a good bit. I love now having a sort of basic sense about these big names in philosophy. Thank you for that.
La plus grande addiction de tout les temps le besoin de se sentir aimer, quand tout les sages nous ont bien montrer que notre nature est d'aimer. Encore merci pour ces documentaires bien fait.
Would not have thought of Schopenhauer as a philosopher with a guide to happiness. Enjoying this series!
OMG this video is amazing I feel like I am understood, there are people in this world that understand how I think lol I came across Schopenhauer by accident and I am so glad I came across him, I can't express my joy using words! thanks for a great video
Very interesting. I have landed myself in a less than magnificent situation. Makes me think. Happiness was never really the plan. Yes, that is consoling. Thank you for making this video available to us!
"We might have been happy with the person who rejected us, but Nature wasn't."
Great ending, with him asking her to dinner! All throughout that interview I asked myself why her boyfriend left her. She's quite pretty, seems intelligent, nice person, willing to do anything for the relationship....what was the problem? She actually said, "maybe". Wonder what happened. :-)
I am very much happy with you dear philosophy
16:34 "Human existence must be a kind of error. It's bad today and everyday it will get worse until the worse of all happens."
That' s deep. Like maybe all life is a mistake.
Even experiencing hell on earth is still better than not being able to experiencing anything at all, not to exist from the begin with. I’m not trying to justify misery. Just trying to show that life is always worth it.
such a nice video...thanks for uploading
Love the series, Loathe the music
23:21 Alain is rejetced at the end... It's funny how he tries to rationalize it !!!
He did not, the video just finished right after
I knew it! Love is just my body tricking me! Don't fall for it!!!
Just wonderful. We should all heed the words of these philosophers. Read philosophy and learn about the real world in which you live. Free yourself from the control of yourself and others. Read ancient literature and see how we are not so different than they were. This gives consolation because it shows how human we are but that we have not learned any of the lessons from the past, which is unfortunate. Learn the lessons, practice them every day and then it will become you. Read Marcus Aurelius.
23:22 Smooth.
@13:14"..And so ensure our children are proportioned in limb and stable of mind."
While the narrator gave examples of attraction from physical imbalances, did Schopenhauer believe that imbalances in the mind are also drawn to eachother?
Oo
Likkle game at the end lol. Well played
Ty spookster nice series
23:22............ I stand corrected. Good job Mr.Botton.
Thank you for sharing;)
Cheers.
Alian just has explained us that love has nothing to do with a wish to have babies... so I wish all and every one could fall in love and be happy as long as it last within teh frames of the relaitonships wihtout chilling thought at the back of their mind "I have to serve the nature, I have to bring another human being in this crasy world" ...
There is only one inborn error, and that is the notion that we exist in order to be happy... So long as we persist in this inborn error... the world seems to us full of contradictions. For at every step, in things great and small, we are bound to experience that the world and life are certainly not arranged for the purpose of maintaining a happy existence... hence the countenances of almost all elderly persons wear the expression of what is called disappointment.”
― Arthur Schopenhauer
No, it's old school BBC practice started by David Attenborough in the 1970's, ever notice he's always in the same blue shirt and khaki's? When they film using multiple locations it means they can edit bits in from all over the place and not have to worry about continuity. I suspect the vanity of US on screen talent has prevented the practice crossing the pond.
I agree that we are unconsciously motivated to seek love for the purpose of our species's survival. However, it might not be the sole reason for that. Probably, due to the elation we feel when we love, we just get addicted to such feeling and seek relationships for the ecstasy.
How to date the woman of your dreams in three easy steps
1) Make 6 episode documentary about happiness
2) Subtely fit in an episode about Schopenhauer's will-to-life theory
3) Interview the woman on that subect to explain to her the theory, and ask her out with a brilliantly set-up pick-up line.
I disagree with child theory,the girl @ 11:36 is more correct about this whether we consciously agree with it or not
"Fools rush in where wise men never go. But wise men never fall in love, so how are they to know?"
Just because somebody wrote books two centuries ago, that are taught in university classes of philosophy, doesn't mean that person's notions are necessarily valid and true today. Schopenhauer made some brilliant statements, but that doesn't mean his remarks about love are any more worth taking seriously in 2015 than anybody else's remarks on the subject.
My sentiments exactly. I understood his theory in relationship to heterosexual reproduction. But "love" in regards to homosexuality according to his theory wouldn't apply.
interesantno pitanje :)
Can someone put Portuguese subtitles in the video?
Thanks
Eu tenho todos os 6 com a legenda, vou fazer o upload depois!
Maybe.
So, did that girl say yes or no at the end?
I don't agree with Shopenhauer on this. I think the reason we look for love is the need of being accepted, understood, seen and loved (like our mother did).
I never wanted to reproduce for example, never even played with dolls nor wanted to be a mother. But I did need to feel accepted and appreciated.
Plus, a good amount of people are homosexual or asexual and they fall in love without the need to reproduce either.
He did pick her up on the end, legend... Prey on her vulnerability hsha
Are the couple whose wedding he attended still married?
i still wonder if all episodes are filmed in the same day because he's always wearing the same clothes...
what's that bird's number?
sure, but I think it's reasonable to strike a difference between romantic love and other kinds. also, modern evolutionary biology makes it clear that Schopenhauer's biological approach to can be extended to familial love.
I think Schopenhauer's explanation of love is a bit short-sided as it does not explain love other than between a couple that has the ability to procreate. What about loving a child? What about loving a parent? I would be hard-pressed to believe that we are aiming to procreate with them when we have those kinds of feelings for them.
17:32 ...he looks like Bilbo Baggins. :D
that maybe was a no
That's a very good question haha :D
Sad that the woman doesn't get it. Rejection in a relationship is based in instinct, it isn't personal, although it SEEMS very personal. He was trying to show her a way to take it less personally, but she didn't accept it.
The essence was logical. BUT, why would a person dump the partner after a long relationship ? He/she was interested in his/her partner initially for balancing out the characteristics of the future children, but later realised that the will to gain individual satisfaction is more important than the interest of the species' reproduction ? This is contradictory - as he/she should not have selected their partner in the first place - if they knew their partner will not be able to produce more "average" children. Other reasons might well as be other personal or financial or social reasons. Also, he/she might have realised later that the characteristics they were thinking of averaging out were merely superficial and hence there is a need to find someone better.
Interesting in that Evolutionary Biology teaches nearly the same.
So....your brain told itself that this episode is too "brain centric". I think your brain hates itself.
not more than it does the instigators mate. Peace.
He gets turned down at the end!
C Miller nope. She says "maybe"
"It's over because our children will be rather ugly."
How often do we even consider the reason why we want to have sex being actually about wanting to make babies? Not often I think. The urge of love and sex and the desire of these rarely is about wanting to reproduce. This is one of the important differences between Humans and nearly every other living creature on this earth. Love still is very interesting……probably is just based on desire and the hope that by attaining this person we love will perfect our imperfect selves.
I don't believe there is such thing as 'gay love' or 'hetero sexual' love, there is just love. There is love, there is splenda(sustitute 4 sugar), and there is a daily aspirine that makes life bearable.
Even before this video I had decided that I'd stay single forever, 'cause I don't want to be a slave of my earthly desires. Lol.
You are keeping that decision?
Yes, tell us please!!
@@horizon5677 NO LOOOL I FAILED HARD
aaaaah, so young and naive I was...
I'm solo poly though. Ended a relationship for that decision. Primary partner is... me myself and I. Don't think in terms of relationships, only in terms of connections. 6th love language is the most important one to me (and also the only one I know lol): distance.
So in some ways... yes, keeping that decision. But not without failure! In PRAXIS, some desires are umm, just as strong as highly concentrated caloric intake... So I guess I'll have to find a way to dialectically go through a proces and learn to live with... some earthly desires, and get back to the peace and quiet of the straight edge mind.
Summary: single forever and fighting earthly desires.
@@jonanasbananas2944 Wow your views changed greatly hope you going on the right path in your life!
@@melvina9959 And they keep changing. :c
Why am I so... human?
One more question. What happened to that girl at the end of the video? Ha ha.
Alain is a God, I would rather die before asking a girl that way.
But it was a mini-presentation of Will Zum Leben; He and that girl could have not made biologicaly balanced children, take a closer look and you can notice why. He wanted to show us that :)
this one was a bit too brain centric for me. I can only think about how evolution works. The DNA inside us dictates us, one way or another, to replicate. Otherwise there wouldn't have been DNA-based life on Earth, would it ? So no, we are not confined to the rationale or platitude of species survival, but to the DNA chemistry of the same
Sounds like a closet case (all those poodles)
Hmm, the plural of mongoose is not mongeese
my view on sex now changed
the natural human colour is brown... true
i thought the same fucking thing llol
How does Schopenhauer explain gay love?
No problem, just wear a cond please.
Just find a partner who treats you well and makes you happy, then have sex with attractive women/ men on the side.
Don't try to find the one who will both make you happy and will remain sexually attractive forever: no such person exists. And it's a bad idea to put all of your eggs in one basket- could lead you to suicide or a schopenhaur world view when things don't work out.
...and he only got a maybe.
Lol funny guy Schopenhaur.
I wonder, what he would say about homosexuality!
I mean that there is no chance of having kids in Homosexuals in a natural way...
"to pull a bird" hahaha english people
Make your wife a friend.
Yeah, who would even bother talking to women if it wasnt for their beautiful looks. I have yet to meet a woman that got something between her ears.
Schopenhauer isn't very good at all, the least interesting of this series, I wonder if the first homo-sapiens felt emotional attachment the same as we do, when they had only basic ways of communicating, I would say they did. Love is something beyond emotional attachment, something that manifests as we evolved and got to intelligent and self aware to be mere animals anymore.
+StimulantZ u wot m8?
Eh, I can't really agree with the biological thing. Not everyone wants kids.
That's true. But Schopenhauer meant that our sexual desires are an subconscious will that we all have inside us. I, for example don't ever want to have children. But I still have the desire to have sex, and that desire is exactly what is being discussed in this video.
That's very true.
Sounds like bs to me.