House of the Dragon | S1 EP9: Inside the Episode (HBO)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2022
- Showrunners Ryan Condal and Miguel Sapochnik, director Clare Kilner, Tom Glynn-Carney (Aegon Targaryen) and more unpack the moment when Alicent finally sees her father for who he is, Aemond’s underlying resentment for Aegon, and Rhaenys' escape from King's Landing.
Tom's acting during the coronation scene was out of this world. From the vacant look in his eyes, angry and on the verge of tears as he's walking up to his mother, and then his expression completely changing when he realizes "Oh shit, these people are actually rooting for me". He said so much without saying a single word.
I love the little smile Rhaenys gave when she realized the throng of people she got caught up in was heading towards the Dragon Pit.
This!!!!
Yes.
I didn't catch that at first, but the dash down the stairs and I was like "oh, ok, got it".
It’s all rhaenys’ fault. She should have fried them all
Only for her to kills hundreds of them in a ‘heroic’ moment!
The glance of Otto beaming when the crowd is cheering. You could see to him he felt it was his moment as much as, if not more than Aegon’s. He’s achieved his blood being on the iron throne. He even looks somewhat relieved as the crowd goes wild for Aegon. Great acting!
otto has been such a standout character for me since he's evil don't get me wrong but the things he does is filled with such drive and determination that I can't help but respect, even cheer on sometimes.
Seems kingslanding was pile of shit afterall.
But he is so lousy as the hand of the king. He looks like a sick man and very old. His voice is not that commanding. I wish they cast someone like Tywin Lannister.
he was giving same vibes of tywin lannister ruling indirectly 💀
Fr he always wanted the throne, from the beginning
I applaud Tom's acting through that walk. He visibly transforms as the swords swing down behind him. So little of him we saw during the season, but as he rises to the pedestal, he becomes a full-fleshed character.
And Tom is so stunning.
he won't be able to win viewers to his side tho no one will root for him because all will people see now is rapist almost all people root for Rhanyra like showrunners wanted but it is boring they really made good blacks and evil green and went fully mushroom on Aegon
The way Meleys slips through the doors, briefly tucking her wings, and a short kick off the ground to boost her into flight was so smooth. Perfectly shows the level of manoeuvrability a succesful & skilled dragon and dragonrider can have.
The swiftest dragon
It also perfectly demonstrates it’s ability to magically shrink to half its size in between shots lmao, just moments before it was shown to be the size of a large van
@@rifroll1117 ye the dragon sizes are super inconsistent vhagar looks like a mountain one scene with aemond but when laena was riding him the dragon looked big but close to caraxes. And ye i assumed meleys was gonna burst through the doors but instead she somehow shrinked and then enlarged again ,magical...
Just IT
@@okdude8215that's exactly what i thought!
I loved that Aegon asked Alicent if she loved him, but she smirked and called him an imbecile. The reason it was obvious, she did. When she threw herself at the front of Aegon to protect him from Rhaenys, as much as she could.
I think she didn't want the "futur (?)" kimg to be dead.
@@zhixinli7826 WTF It’s her son
@@GabrieleTarallo yeah but she chose to put him in this dangreous position....I wasnt sure either if Alicent loves him...she knws very well that Aegon can end up dead
It was basically kid asking his mother question and the mother being like, “Why would you ask me such a stupid question. What do u think?”
@@HK-gm8pe Have you not paid attention to the whole series? Alicent put her son in a position to be the most powerful person in Westeros to protect him. If Aegon is not crowned King, he and his siblings' life will all end up at Rhaenyrya's mercy as they will pose as a threat to her claim.
Someone should to tell Rhaenys that "When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground."
Mercy in this world gets people killed.
But then again; 'It's a pity Rhaenys didn't kill Aegon when he had the chance.'
'Pity? It's a pity that stayed Rhaenys' hand. Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that Aegon has some part to play in it, for good or evil, before this is over. The pity of Rhaenys may rule the fate of many.'
@@lawrencefrost9063 I know this speech in Spanish! "¿Lástima? La lástima fue lo que frenó la mano de Rhaenys. Muchos que viven merecen la muerte, y algunos que mueren merecen la vida. Podrías dársela tú. No seas ligero a la hora de adjudicar muerte o juicio. Ni los más sabios pueden discernir esos extremos. El corazón me dice que Aegon tiene aún un papel de cumplir, para bien o para mal, antes de que todo esto acabe. La compasión de Rhaenys puede regir el destino de muchos."
@@lawrencefrost9063 Gandalf??
@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 Yes
The book is already written im sure everyone knows shes not gonna set the hightowers into fire in that moment her fate is sealed
Everyone does realize Rhaenys just killed a bunch of innocent people just to make a point right?
It's Westeros...
@@ChristmasLore
What a pathetic excuse
There's no such thing as innocent people in the game of thrones...everyone can die.
Yup, and still may be called heroic.
@@godfirst9990 ff's. The people of king's landing have no choice over who get's to rule.
I didn’t think Larys Strong could get any more creepy. I was exceedingly wrong 💀
@Rohan Chatterjee I get that, but yeah no it's still weird
Do him and the queen have an arrangement where she shows him her feet in exchange for info?
@@zaddyholmes6735 they definitely do
@Rohan Chatterjee bro what? If someone is missing a arm would they touch themselves if they saw someone else's arm?.
@@StrikerTube People in real life get foot fetishes for less.
What I loved most is Aegon's turn to confidence toward the end.
Being king gives him the love of the people here, the love he's never felt.
The love Viserys never gave him, too. I think Alicent’s children always knew that to Viserys, Rhaenyra was his only child.
@@SamudroEntertainment Viserys seems to see Rhaenyra as his Targaryen child and the others as his Hightower children.
@@rtozier2011 He loves Rhaenyra the most because he loved Aemma. He kind of loved Alicent but not like that, she was and remained only a rebound.
@@FrakkinToasterLuvva So it's okay to treat his OWN children like that?And why was he so desperate to marry after Naming Rhenyra as a heir?
@@apieceoflife2732 Where did I say it was OK?
I know it shouldn't be funny but when Alicent called him an imbacile, I just had to laugh.
Also, love her or hate her, I applaud Alicent for going in between a dragon and her child.
Alicent could become a telenovela level evil stepmother easily but both actresses have really elevated her. Even though I disagree with Alicent for various reasons, I can't help but feel for her.
@@Rosula_D same. I think she's a tragic character. She's forced into a marriage of convenience by her father. Stood beside a man who did not love her and her children. I understand her play to put her son on the throne. All she really has are her children. I know id shed some blood to protect mine. Also, those saying that Rhaenyra will never hurt them are all naive and idiotic. She wanted Aemond to be tortured just by saying her kids were bastards and he was already maimed and just 10 years old!
@@maylynbayani i wish he was tortured
... It's 'imbecile'.
@Music that was an option
Olivia Cooke was the main and shiniest jewel on the magnificent crown that this episode was. She showed how great of an actress she is and can be. Huge fan of hers now ❤
She's also great in Bates Motel
Yea she gave Clubfoot a good time too
@@ivanttosuckyourblood lol
Sound of Metal, man. Sound of Metal.
@@weespookyme I’ve never watched it! Gotta watch it now ❤️
I don’t know if I am reaching or if it was a coincidence or if it was intentional but I noticed that when Rhaenys is in the crowd and has that “lightbulb” moment, the bells are ringing. Earlier in the episode Alicent says to her while heading out “ring the bell when you have an answer”. Thought that was a nice touch!
I caught that, too! Definitely gave her an answer.
Nice catch
Oooo great catch!!
great observation
The soundtrack throughout the episode was beautifully reminiscent of 'Light of The Seven'. Loved it!
My exact thoughts also
Ramin's pieces that use piano are always the best, like The Light Of The Seven and The Night King
Exactly!
Best soundtrack on the show, so good
@@janellejulianajoy _The Prince That Was Promised_ is another undeniable vibe and a half.
Ngl truly wish they included the line from fire and blood: "What kind of brother steals his sisters birthright?" That was pretty fucking good
Who was supposed to say this line?
@@bakten5491 aegon
I loved when they incorporated when rhaneys burst through the ground during the coronation in the book as well!
@@bakten5491 Aegon. Aegon said this line in the books. It was really informative of his character.
@@dashnerrr5549 brooo me too! completely undercutting the haunting victory of the Greens by suddenly putting them at the mercy of a dragon season 8 style instead of showing.. fucking anything. my god that was my favorite part of the book.
Very heroic moment for Rhaenys' character, aside from the fact that she just layed waste to like 1000 peasants
I find it more "great/terrible" than heroic. Big Galadriel in Fellowship of the Ring energy
Eh. It's kings landing peasants. They are always redshirt and typically morally grey in the shows. Plus the low born people are never really given much thought to nobles and such
@dehydrated plant true
@@mrgermanvono35 that’s hardly a justification for murder. They were all escorted forcefully to the dragonpit. We can also assume that children were also there, so does it make it not so bad because they are in Kings Landing?
@@mrgermanvono35 It's fine for people in universe to think like that and justify their actions that way.
It is NOT fine for the showrunners to think like that. They're supposed to show how horrifying that line of thinking really is. A major theme of George RR Martin's writing is how the wars of the highborn hurt the innocent and the lowborn. We're not supposed to see their lives as meaningless chaff that should be sacrificed for a heroic girlboss moment.
Claire Kilner has been doing a fantastic job as director. She made this episode of HOTD feel like a thriller episode as they said, especially with the expert usage of music to build up certain scenes. The slower pace is definitely paying off.
That's right. I was nervous the whole time
My heart was beating fast for the second half of the episode, and I couldn’t explain why. They did a fantastic job!
🎉Such richness in having women write and direct episodes as well in the World of Ice and Fire!😄
@Jacob Magdaleno both Alicent and her father had their own motives but neither wanted to kill the other? Alicent wanted to get Aegon first to prevent the greens from trying to kill rhaenyra
@Jacob Magdaleno second it's in Otto's advantage to have the white worm on his side,he sees the information she has is valuable to him even in the long run,even in the previous episode they hinted how important the white worm is,and that's why larys strong wants to get rid of her,bcoz Otto will always be on step ahead.Third rhaenys is not useless she spared Alicent since alicent dis the same
Aegon: Do you love me?
Allicent: You imbecile 😑
Best line of the episode 😏😂
I really liked that Aegon is shown as a little more complex character and not just like an absolutely evil dude. Hope the showrunners will continue this course.
A few episodes before he was like a comic relief character, only wanting to drink and have fun, he even stated that he likes spending more time with Jace and Luke than with Aemond. And in episode 7 when he said those things about Rhaynera's children he looks so sad, like he didn't want to do it but he did it anyway to protect his family. Having said that, with the bastard and rape reveal, he is definitely changed and not for the better and now he have complete power over everything.
He's really giving me Commodus vibes from Gladiator. An unhinged romantic who's also an unrepentant degenerate. I love it!
Are you dumb? Aegon is LITERALLY an evil dude in the show. They butchered his character. He is someone who is spoiled, rapes serving girls, fathers bastards and watches children fight to the death in pits (none of which happens in the book, by the way). How is that not a totally evil guy who is irredeemable at this point? You people are funny, man.
@@rickbrees3297 yes this is exactly what i got, he even looks like the actor
I mean, they're really trying to make the Greens evil and awful to make Rhaenyra look better(Larys Strongs making Alicent do Westeros OnlyFans was one of the standout moments).
I really felt for Aegon this episode. He's a kid caught up in his grandfathers plots, but he wants to believe his father chose him for the crown and gave him the knife. The scene where he raises Blackfyre and is cheered made me really happy for him, despite knowing what's to come.
The only thing with her not wanting to kill another mother is she just decimated an entire arena full of people 😂😂
eh, she is lord, and commoners are no people to her.
Agree
@@hirdbarding3399 That would make her an elitist tyrant. But the showrunners call this a "heroic" moment. That's what worries me. This is not supposed to be a heroic act we should cheer for, but they apparently want to present it as one.
But they're peasants so she doesn't mind as much. That's kinda the point of GRRM's work here. These people don't give a sh*t about what is good for the common people. They are all squabbling over questions of birthright, not about what's best for their subjects.
@@frankvandorp2059 She probably didn’t take joy in killing those people but that’s what war does, and they just happened to be in the way. Not like she was going out of her way to step on people.
Honestly I’d be happy to die there then continue to live a shitty peasant life with Hightowers in power. 😅
the realistic messiness of figuring out what to do was really exciting, not having daemon or rhaenyra while understandable was definitely felt, im so attached to them that the series can’t help but feel incomplete without them.
But I had a grin from ear to ear on rhaenys appearance on the coronation, I wanted to see her on a dragon since the pilot.
They should have had Rhaenys fight in the war on the stepstones together with Laenor, or they should have waited for her actions in combat later in the series, there will be several of them.
Those would be good "Rhaenys on a dragon" scenes. This one just sucked, they made Rhaenys look evil and stupid while trying to give her a fake girlboss moment. Mindless spectacle at the expense of good writing, the worst scene in the entire series so far.
I'm attached to Daemon & Rhaenyra too but I don't think I'm going to get the satisfaction of seeing them prevail. I haven't seen e9 yet -- will be in a couple hours though. Looking forward to it! Sounds like it's going to be a blast!
Aegon's coronation was such a good scene and Tom and Olivia served
Speechless. Just wow. Even the theme playing throughout was awesome, as far as intrigue and betrayals. Can't wait for the finale. Looks like Aegon, who didn't want to rule and isn't suited, has now gotten a taste of power (in more ways than one.)
It’s kind of cringe playing piano music over nothing. Makes stuff way too overdramatic
It kind of makes me think of the season 6 episode 10, for some reason I felt like when they were funnelling people into the Dragon Pit it was like they were going to mass kill people but I guess it was just the coronation. It does have a similar meaning as the Winds of Winter opening except instead of blowing up the Sept of Balor they're just quickly getting Aegon crown to take power.
@@yarafakhoury6022 Thank you!
“Her moral standpoint becomes the reason for inaction”. “She doesn’t wanna do that to another mother”
She literally just crushed like 20 mothers and their children with her dragon 😅
I found something really fascinating in the coronation, the trumpet bearers bugled the arrival of Aegon to the room, with part of Ramin Djawadi's 'The King's Arrival' from GoT, this means Ramin's music has actually broken into the universe itself, omg
The king's arrival was used in the previous episode when viserys walked in
Many of ramins motifs have been used all season. Danys Breaker of chains is used when viserys tells nyra about ageons dream/tptwp in ep 1. You can hear dragon stone gongs hit when rhaenys enters the dragon pit with melyes.
@@bobbasseyjnr240 Yeh, but that was the music piece itself, not actual in-universe trumpets
Also used at winterfell when king Robert baratheon arrived season 1
@@MoejiiOsmanTV yeh, that’s what the track is 😜
Already can’t wait for Season 2.
Next week is going to be amazing
Yeah, probably an 18month wait 😆😆🥲🥲😓😪
I have been waiting for episosde 10 since I read the book! Can't wait to see my families reaction when "it" happens!!! They are so invested in R's children lol
@Ajay the shooting starts at March 2023. They have already said that the season 2 will air on 2024
Rhaeneys being a mother could not kill children of another Mother Alicent but trampled 1000s sons and daughters of common folk’s mother. Amazing writing!!
Scenes like that got us seasons 7 & 8 of GoT!
@@ferrjuan????
The Dance of the Dragons and HOTD focus heavily on how the careless fuckery of the nobles often end up in hundreds of thousands of commoners suffering and dying. This is excatly what they were supposed to do.
(However them saying it was a "Heroic" moment is a little concerning, but this is mostly taken out of context)
Yep I could buy that she doesn't want to be a kinslayer, but the reasoning here is a bit dumb.
They sacrificed some narrative coherence for an "epic moment" but if they keep going this route we end with season 8 all again.
that scene was made for twitter feminists
@@GrievyRZ if characters were capturted exactly like in the books i would be fine with it , but they changed alot of characterisations
Rhaenys : doesn’t burn the hightowers-targaryens because she did not want to kill.
Also Rhaenys : kills hundreds lf people during her grand entrance
Yeah, she is legit the most evil person alive right now in this universe lmfao.
Season 8 level of writing
D&D would be proud
next episode, Rhaenys : "It will not be me who starts this war"
also, the green king: "do you know what the common people are shouting in the streets demanding for me to do with you?"
Rhaenys' moral code??? My guy, she just obliterated a hundred people in that hall 😂😂
Shes a black supporter so of course she is a saint deep down🙄🙄🙄 is it really hard to make all of them the SHIT THEY ARE?
All main black players are hypocrite 😂
@@Lord_bobby_ same with the fans
Every noble in this conflict is a selfish asshole. This is one of the main themes of the books.
@@GrievyRZThe main problem is not what Rhaenys did in this moment (even tho it is out of her character, she was supposed to be better suited to rule over Viserys, the guy who cared about ppl but Rhaenys doesn't care about the ppl??).
The main problem is that the writers themselves have mischaracterized their own story. They saw it as "heroic" which it isn't. She killed innocent commoners with her dragon because the writers wanted spectacle.
Story>spectacle, always!
Rhaenys kinda forgot that killing dozens of innocent isnt a great heroic moment
5:35 She just murdered a few hundred innocent mothers by collapsing the floor and destroying the building and making her dragon do tail whips around the room
Maybe at that time she thought she will kill all the hightower family members but suddenly she changed her mind so i guess that was the reason
@@warriorking125 or the writers need a girl boss moment for a character that wasn’t there in the books.
@@joshuaellery6167 yaa maybe
@@joshuaellery6167 or maybe this is a great way to show how utterly fucked up the nobles of Westeros are towards the people. (Pssst, this is like the main theme of source material )
I want an alternative episode that has been edited so that this coronation entrance is deleted, LITTERALLY didnt add anything to the episode, only fucked up the character and world-building.....
I liked the brotherly fight between aegon and aemond it's always nice to have more scenes of them to understand them and ewan Mitchell what a charming human not even looking at the camera you won't expect he portray the most badass character perfectly.
Love it or not the green team characters are more complicated and grey and more joyful to watch.
This episode was so full of tension but Alicent selling feet pics to Lord Larys had me dying 😂
Loved that scene, totally showed how much Allicent has to sacrifice to protect her children etc, and you can see how ashamed she is here. Easily one of my favourite characters so far.
@@MrMagicRman twitter is full of #BlackTeam. I hardly see any support for Green team . I m kinda leaning towards green one. Alicent and Aemond are among my favourites
That was so weird, it honestly was a bad thing to add to the show because it's very clear in the beginning that the relationship is platonic with the intention of helping each other to get what they want, and then you have him have a foot fetish and her obliging to it like wtf? It's like sleeping with someone to sleep to have a place to sleep in and then trying to have business relationship like???
@@wingsofwinter2600 I think there's still a business aspect to the relationship. I'm sure the show writers wouldn't have Larys killing his dad and brother while snooping around just for some feet pics.
@@wingsofwinter2600 i have heard grr martin say somehere that there is nothing called platonic relationship 😂😂
"She doesn't want to do that to another mother" I guess the hundreds of innocent peasants she just murdered be damned
Rhaenys scene was straight outta GOT season 8. Defiant of the logic
“You imbecile” Olivia Cooke is such a good actress oh god
That music is too epic, especially the part with Aegon at the end!
The way this whole episode was set up to show the Greens in the middle of their coup was thrilling to see.
-"great heroic moment for her character"
-shows her stomping on people with her dragon
heroic - behaviour or talk that is bold or dramatic.
That's correct.
@@221B.Crime.Science So killing is heroic?😅😅😅😅😅
Rhaenyra: **Slaughters roughly 500 innocent people with her dragon, many of them children and mothers so she can hiss menacingly at Alicent Hightower.**
The Showrunner: "It was a great heroic moment for her character."
A stupid unnecessary scene, it was meant for something more... like feminism shit
When did she kill 500 people are you talking about Rehynese?
@@VolkerDrach when she broke through the dragon pit. Are you blind or plain stupid.
Made the same exact comment without seeing this 😂
@@VolkerDrach Rhaenys*
Damn you were horrifically off the mark
It began with love and loss, it began with secrets and lies. It began with blood and fire. It began with the dance of dragons.
i love this
It began with a discovery of witches.
I had to. Lol 😆🤣
Cringe
I love how Aegon II didn't believe anything his mother said
He’s not dumb
@@elwinjohnson4004 he isn't
RIP LORD CASWELL AND LORD BEESBURY 😭
"Doesn't want to be responsible to doing that to another mother" yet she kills a lot of mothers while bursting through the floor. Top notch writing my dudes. D&D would be proud
well rhaenys kinda forgot about the hundreds of innocents she just killed
Easily one of the most intriguing and thrilling episodes so far. So glad Rhaenys finally got to have her moment in the sun and have her epic dragon moment. Also, can we just take a moment to appreciate Olivia Cooke's portrayal of Alicent Hightower? A truly incredibly performance from start to finish.
oh yeah she killed like 100 smallfolk such a moment, the common people are the only victims when the high lords play there
game of thrones
@@clemenpog9079 life isn't fair :[
@@clemenpog9079 haha
@@clemenpog9079 what they were doing there when they know Rhaenyra is the true heir
@@clemenpog9079
How did Queen Alicent kill them? It was Rhaenys.
Eve Best has been the hidden goat of House of Dragon!
Go Rhaenys!!
I still can’t comprehend how Criston Cole could get away with killing Leanor’s lover for seemingly (to everyone else) no reason and now kill someone on the small council. Even if they all disagreed with him it feels like he can get away with too much.
the problem i have with rheany's moral high ground is she just literally killed hundreds of innocent civilians but couldn't bring herself to kill a treasonous family to help prevent countless deaths? seems like a classic trope of a good character kiling their way to the big bad only to show mercy and let them go. this show usually has amazing writing but that really rubbed me the wrong way. first misstep imo. still an amazing episode overall tho. i was at the edge of my seat the whole time.
The Targaryens / Velaryons / Hightowers don't care about the common people. That's just obvious at this point. Their morality is reserved for each other, the family that Viserys begged them to keep together.
Hopefully this level of writing remains to a minimum cuz if they continue making dumb decisions like this we will get a repeat of seasons 7 & 8 of GoT! Cuz they choose spectacle over story cohesion!
Calm tf down, being a kinslayer is far worse in Kings landing than killing a bunch of random people. You people like whining over the dumbest shit.
I think you’re all missing the point, there isn’t any good people in this story - they’re all scum bags basically. They don’t see the small-folk as equal to themselves either.
Rhaenys probably didn’t kill the
Greens because of the taint of kin slaying. The small folk who died in the process were probably, in her mind, the equivalent of stepping on a spiders nest and killing 100 spiders to save yourself.
@@ferrjuan I agree, I love this show but I really disliked the mass murder of civilians like that, didnt feel in character at all and made me think about Danearys in the last season of GOT.
That was the most House of cards- ish game of thrones episode ever. The plots ,the schemes ,the tension as a result; it was all very well done.
It was horribly done. There was no indication of the plots or schemes. She murdered tons of innocent in the end and then just left the guilty. This was nothing like the schemes and plots in house of cards.
@@user-lh2xg5uf3y awww ok kid now go do ur school homework
@@user-lh2xg5uf3y thats what i was thinking lmao. dude in the video said "doesnt want to be responsible about doing that to another mother" right after squashing countless people.............
thats a writing fail in my book
@@TH-camEnjoyer100 they are targaryens she probably doesn’t care about the common folk
@@user-lh2xg5uf3y I felt the same way. She should've roasted everyone if they wanted that ending.
"Dracarus!" That's all Rhaenys had to say and would've stopped the miserable war that will begin. Kind of reminds me of that scene when Ned Stark refused Renly's advice.
I get that but it's not her fight. It's rhaenyras
Exactly!! Why even put that scene in there. So dumb. Everything else was fine, but that was bad writing. What person on a dragon who had the power to stop a war and give true justice wouldn't just kill them all right there?! Stupid!
@@dominickuharski9796 it’s not stupid. What’s stupid is one Targaryen killing all the other royals. She’d have just looked mad or rogue. She’s telling them it’s war. She’s also still a mother- when alicent stood infront of Aegon it made her rethink. She needs alliances. She’s not a mass murderer- she’s just not into treason.
@@okaysxo if she really cared about the "mother" thing, she wouldn't have killed hundreds when she busted in with her dragon 🤣🤣.. hello.. bad character writing
Or aegon be married to rhaenyra
Aegon character arc starting now. Actor did a great job in that episode
Is it a good one
Love the strong soundtrack and the thrilling filmography in this epiosde! Also... what a mindblowing end!!!
And once again the great Ramin Djawadi delivered
People will keep arguing that Rhaenys showing mercy to Alicent is a good thing (because the showrunners say it is), but is a dumb ,stupid scene. She knows civil war will break out. So, good for her for showing mercy once (never mind the peasants she killed) and plunging the realm into civil war instead of just eliminating all the enemies gathered in one place, especially Aemond the rider of Vhagar. This scene was not in the book because it is stupid and makes no sense.
That scene was Season 8 level of stupidity
Umm Daeron wasn't there or Aegons 3 kids. So wiping out all of them? Can you count?
@@michaelnkomphela8231 yeah ok you think of Rhaenys toasted all of them, the remaining dragons are riderless and Vhagar may be claimed by Daemon's dragonless daughter, than (1) Daeron with (1) dragon and 2 children are gonna stand against them? Okk
@@AllTheArtsy they won't need to. NO ONE in the realm will support team black who just murdered the royal family. Not a single house will stand by them. They will put Aegon 2 son on the Iron throne. Ps. NONE of Rhae kids are legitimate = Ser Laenor is still alive.
Loved, LOVED Alicent and Aemond this episode💯💯
And Aegon? He is getting interesting
Agreed The greens are very interesting.
Fantastic episode. I loved ALL the intrigue and dialogue. Also, I loved what the did with Alicent's character in this show and especially in this episode. In my opinion, this is another great change from Fire and Blood. And that ending...Rhaenys is incredible. Meleys is nothing short of amazing. I'm running out of words to describe how much I love this show.
Yes. Saving 'Dracarys' for another day.
Can you please tell me what makers changed with Alicent Character
It was good until the end. The writers made a mess, she can kill hundreds but not the usurpers.
So Rhaenys instead of killing the Greens and preventing the war she just killed innocent civilians and flew off... Did Weiss and Benioff directed this episode?
My thoughts exactly
5:34 She literally killed dozens, if not hundreds of people with her dragon's entrance but she's drawing the moral line at not killing the half dozen people that are going to lead to thousands upon thousands of deaths in a civil war? FFS.
Symbolically, historically, the consequences are nothing alike.
Also, there's a curse on kin-slaying in Westeros- among other very good reasons not to fry them there and then.
That said, I was whispering "do it" / "Dracarys".
But Rhaenys was the better woman, for one moment, a true Queen 🌿
@@ChristmasLore You're out of your mind.
I find that Rhaenys actions were despicable. She breaks in at the coronation, injuring perhaps hundreds of people and then does nothing, when she knows that by doing nothing she has doomed the realm to a long bloody war, not only causing the death of thousands of people but also the likely destruction of he own house.
It makes no sense to that world, a true Targaryan would have burned them all, problem solved... but then this would have been the last episode, and there is no series in that.
This episode rivals in illogical nonsense the last season of GOT,
Well this scene wasn't' in the books so....
That feeling, when you have to scroll for few minutes to find a comment that calls Rhaenys out..
She's a Targaryen, not an idiot. If she burned them all, there would just be even more chaos, she knows that. The crowd was clearly enthusiastic for Aegon, if she just killed so many of them and then killed the adored new king, she would make herself and her allies (including Daemon and Rhaenyra) hated. Hard to rule if you're hated. I think this scene was basically her way of saying to the Hightower branch "Good luck stopping me" and showing that they are weak (which is much more effective than just killing them all in terms of getting public support). Also, of course, to get out and start the war. Rhaenys, it's been shown, doesn't seem like the most ethical of people, more than anything she wants the power that was denied her. So I doubt she cares about the deaths of thousands in a long war, so long as she has the new queen's ear and thus the power she craves.
@@kohlcooke8789so she doesn't want to be hated by the people and then slaughters the people just to show off.
The most pointless scene thanks to this Sara Hess fire her she cannot write
The Scale of the Series is huge, i got chills in the Dragonpit scene
Rhaenys’ entrance was chef’s kiss
I found the ending a little bit weird. Rhaenys was willing to murder common folk (probably dozens fell to their deaths, or were stumped by her dragon), but not willing to kill the greens who were right in front of her defenceless?
It seems like the nobles don’t give a shit when it comes to the “small folk”
@@Samechii845 I totally agree with that. I know the scene is supposed to make Rhaenys look cool (which she is, the actress playing her always gives a good performance), but they could had accomplished the same result by different means. I don't know, perhaps is just me, but this scene kinda bothered me, but I digress.
@Rohan Chatterjee Dude, this event has not yet occured. These people were forced to attend the coronation, just to die from a fucking dragon.
If this is here "heroic" moment i don't want to see her go crazy.
I feel like the somber start of the episode went under the radar, that was so masterfully crafted to represent the start of a dark era, it even made me feel cold
So, are we not going to talk about how dragon riders can magically pop out of a stone floor and survive?
Nope 😂
4:45 "we needed a penultimate scene...whats the worst possible thing that could happen at a coronation..."
seems like the same thinking that brought us GoT season 8 tho
but this scene did bring volumes to Rhaenys
Awesome job, the show is amazing, it feels so good to be back in Westeros and just rocks, can’t wait for more to come
Rhaenys bursting through the floor on her dragon fully clad in armour is the most season 8 thing i've seen since season 8 of Game of Thrones. I bet this moment is never mentioned or brought up again.
The only way they can save it is if they use it to build a grudge in Aegon and Aemond against Rhaenys that will come to scorn in the Battle of Rook's Rest
Damnit Rhaenys you had one job...
Honestly, that last part was overkill. The coronation itself was a pretty good scene on its own, having Rhaenys spare them just feels forced.
doesnt happen in book, they just wanted girlboss moment
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 what happened in the book
Rhaenys is not at Kings Landing. The coronation goes as planned and Aegon flies Sunfyre, i was waiting that :(
@@luisa.acevedo3326 omg same!! i was waiting for Aegon to walks towards Sunfyre and ride him around King's Landing then ending the episode :(
All of you guys did a great job with this show, each episode is fantastic. BRAVOOO.
Phenomenal! The music during Aegon's induction ceremony thing was a huge standout for me this episode as well
Oh my God what kind of chapter was this, spectacular and the next one is the reason why the fantasy was created. The dance of the dragons begins.
This looks incredibly fun. We're looking forward to This !
Kills dozens of innocents and leaves the schemers unharmed… “It’s a great heroic moment for her” 🤦🏾♂️
Their is already tweets with 40k likes heralding this moment .. people are fucking imbeciles to quote a character this ep 🤣🤣
The show runners ‘kind of forgot’ about the hundreds of dead civilians that should be littering the dragon pit
The showrunners kinda forgot that Aemond and Aegon had dragons too 😮💨
They peasants won't forget though
Eve Best as Rhaenys Targaryen was amazing
Didn’t expect Malese to pop up out the floor like a Dragon in the Box 😂😂 that was fantastic
I'd call it a case of the show writers choosing spectacle over sense.
It's Meleys
@@marianaruiz9203 thank you 🙂
"beware of the beast beneath the boards" 👀
@@dw1419 Welcome to fantasy television.
Erik was the true MVP tonight
He was great!
okay, what's an MVP?
@@bliss448 most valuable player
@@RenanFelicianoOn ah, thank you for the heads up.
Rheanys vs Aemond and Aegon will be legendary battle !!!! Cant wait !!!
Can someone explain to me why a family who literally controls dragons (and has enemies who have dragons too) never uses any of them as bodyguards or security in these insanely sensitive and vulnerable public occasions?
"Let's just constantly put ourselves in situations where one measly person with a dragon can obliterate our entire bloodline."
The issue of Rhaneys´ scene is that it´s very jarring to what happens to her in the next season. If she wanted to stay neutral, sure, it made perfect sense for her to not kill them, but we know for a fact she fights on Rhaenyra´s side of the war, which means her actions here will permanently have a negative impact in the sense of her character going forth.
The show keeps getting better & better. The Characters like Alicent, Aegon, Rhaenys & Helaena, among others became more complicated & in depth. Having good hopes for future episodes.
I need to give credit to Condal, Sapochnik and Martin. They are building up characters in a seemingly slow-burn pace, letting their presence breath, and just when you least expect it, reveal their essence. This episode truly felt so much like a thriller, yet not exploding into anything, until the coronation scene. Kilner did an incredible job in crafting this thrilling atmosphere and introducing the episode with silence in the castle, an indication of war incoming with the death of Viserys, just like 'silence before the storm', and by the end of the episode, reaffirms that the Dance isn't far away.
P S.: Have been waiting for Rhaenys' dragon moment for so long! I knew this woman has badassery tucked under her cloak. Damn, what a moment!! I am just so happy!!!! 😭
Rhaneys: (kills a hundred people just to make an entrance)
Internet: yaaaaasss queen, slaaaaaayy
@@rifroll1117 it was a bad ass entrance Wether you liked it or not
This was the worst scene in the entire show and they never should have put it in. It's just mindless spectacle for the people who want mindless spectacle.
They made Rhaenys kill hundreds of innocent smallfolk to get to her enemies, which makes her evil. Then they have her spare her enemies and miss out on a chance to end the war before it starts, which makes her stupid.
I loved Rhaenys character. She was relatively wise and good. This scene made her stupid and evil. And the showrunners don't even seem to realize it. I despise this scene.
@@iouplayyy9191 It turns Rhaenys into a vain, murderous and rather stupid villain, whether you like it or not.
@@frankvandorp2059 Omg you didn't even listen to the show runners. Rhaenys was ready to burn all of them BUT Alicents parental protectiveness caused Rhaenys to falter.
The last 3 episodes has been some of the best television I’ve seen in a while!
It was an awesome moment in thrones history! To answer Queen Alicent in such epic proportions!
The level of talent on display in every shot is high. Wardrobe, sets, props, cgi, and acting are all fantastic. Production quality amazing.
This epidose is such a rollercoster! I was on the edge of my seat, I was having goosebumps, I was disgusted beyond belief with the scene between Alicent and Larys. Eah character is SO well written, powerful, and interesting to watch.
Ryan and Miguel You wanted to have your cake and eat it too. The potential for this episode from the source material could have made it the best episode of the season but You wanted a slow moving Hitchcock style thriller for your episode 9 (not how it is in the book) but then you wanted a climatic event purely because you wanted it with no regard for logic or George’s work. The only way this could be saved is if Alicent uses this event to portray the blacks as evil and if Shepard loses his arm in the mass murder event but given how you showrunners chose to include this event just because you wanted makes me think this won’t be included and just swept under the rug
Did anyone else notice Helaena looking at Aegon during the ceremony but the second he gets crowned (and then wears the crown) she's looking away
The last scene with Rhaenys was overkill, there was no need for that
Music was just... Incredible, nothing less to be expected :)
RHAENYS TARGARYEN IS THE TRUE MVP OF TONIGHT!!!🐉👑🖤🔥
Yes she was I was kinda hoping that she would have told her dragon to burn them all but.... She just wanted to get the hell out of there!!!
I AM OVER HERE SCREAMING......YESSSSS YESSSSS........I JUST FINISHED WATCHING
@@dawnprudenti1964 SHE IS GOING TO TELL RHAENYRA
Yess, she killed only innocent poor people that were manipulated to be there, such a girl boss 🙄🙄🙄
@@mariatereza9721 THERE IS NOTHING NICE ABOUT WAR
The beginning of the Dance of the Dragons. So exciting 💚
Why green heart ?. Are one of people who like delusional.
@@supunmadushanka94 why whould you be team black
@@supunmadushanka94 Team Black forever!!!!!!!!!! 🖤🖤🖤
Daemon killed his innocent wife so team green.
@@ahmarrizvi1683 I don’t mean to spell out the obvious, but this story is written so that both sides are pretty shit, meaning you simpletons aren’t supposed to take sides 🙄
What a great episode. That ending was superb❤ 10/10
Crap ending.
@@Al-ji4gd COOL down aj , dont spam your comment everywhere , its okay you can watch euphoria instead of HOTD
@@RipperFied he loved she hulk apparently
@@yohanespaskal9352
She Hulk might actually be better than HOTD looking at the way the idiotic showrunners are going ahead ...
@@RipperFied
At this rate Euphoria might actually be better than HOTD.
He needs to spam his comment, otherwise brainless fans such as yourself will drag this show down to your level.
This is another season 7/8 of GoT in the making...
“The enigma that is Larys Strong the Clubfoot has vexed students of history for generations, and is not one we can hope to unravel here. Where did his true loyalty lie? What was he about? He wove his way all through the Dance of the Dragons, on this side and that side, vanishing and reappearing, yet somehow always surviving. How much of what he said and did was ruse, how much was real? Was he just a man who sailed with the prevailing wind, or did he know where he was bound when he set out? So may we ask, but none will answer. The last Strong keeps his secrets.”
It was feet
Aegon first time feeling honoured and worthy ,Rhaenys entry with maelys and alicent protecting her son🔥🔥🔥
Some Game of Thrones season 7-8 levels of writing in this episode.
To be honest Rhaenys mowing down hundreds of people just to make a point is very on brand for the Targaryens. I love them, but they have always positioned themselves as masters of life and death, even the better and kinder ones. She could have used the lower doors out of the Dragonpit, but she was itching to disrupt the crowning and confront the Greens. It was an epic scene, and it was a warning for the Hightowers and the Green Targaryens that the times of plotting in dark corridors is over, and that its time for Fire and Blood. Great episode.
it was not epic, it was dumb af, makes no sense at all. it was all made for the show but this finale has 0 logic, poor writting of this episode.
@@martrog3429 PPL cant handle when the characters they like do questionable things I guess.
Rhaenys was my favourite character but after her "#girlboss" moment, yeah she is in the pits for me. She killed all those innocent people for what?
For a staring contest with the Greens lol
I want an alternative episode that has been edited so that this coronation entrance is deleted, LITTERALLY didnt add anything to the episode, only fucked up the character and world-building.....
The show was hammering on our heads that she should have been queen, and I liked her. Now I'm like THANK GOD she was never queen. THANK FUCKING GOD. Viserys for life.
First she hardcore gaslights Alicent, then she does fucking terrorism. All in 1 episode.
@@cancerino666 Indeed, and it's hypocritical of her to accuse Alicent of giving in to the whims of the men in her life, when she herself is shown to regularly give in to her husband's political ambitions.
Girl boss moment. Understand being woke means being stupid.