My Vaer S3 Tradition (formerly their C3 Tradition) is 36mm of absolute perfection! I don't know where to begin. The brushing, the sleekness, the vintage tool watch vibe with it's black/amber dial and it's flawless, high end finish. THEN there are it's specs/features: 36mm case, 20mm lugs, screw-in case back, screw in crown, 100m WR, sapphire crystal and (best of all) QUARTZ! This is the watch many of us have waited for our whole lives: A quartz Explorer/Smiths Everest. I LOVE THIS WATCH !! Well done, Vaer.
I just bought a S3 white dial. Love it. Add that the quick release straps are fantastic and not found in Seiko or other makers. And the links in the steel bracelet are solid, not hollow. Anti reflective coating and lume are excellent.
The Vaer D5 and D7 are underrated by more than a few watch reviews I have read. I own both and have worn the D5 continuously for the past several months. I watched a video from Vaer where Ryan described why they built their divers the way they did. They are surfers and scuba dive also. He said the 200 meter depth rating was enough for MOST peoples use of a "water proof" dive watch. He said they could have made it with a 300 meter rating but the case would have been thicker. It's made affordable enough that they don't worry about it when they are in the ocean. I would not say that wearing a $10,000 Submariner or a Seamaster but that's just me. One of the many things I like about these watches is how thin they wear. Sure in the center of the domed crystal I measure 13 1/2 mm but out at the edge of the bezel it is close to 10mm. It could be called streamlined or sleek with it's flying saucer shape. What ever it is it works. Exhibition case back leaking? In theory, maybe. In reality, Not likely. I like it. Seeing the movement is cool. I would venture a guess most dive watch leaks are from the crown being left unscrewed by the owner. Not thru an exhibition case back. I have worn dive watches since 1969 starting with a Mondaine. I spent most of that summer in the water at Huntington Beach wearing that watch. After the Mondaine came Seiko's. Last one before the Vaer D5 was a 773 Turtle. In my opinion these Vaers are as close to ideal as I have found. A quick glance and I can pick up the precise time. Maybe even quicker than with my Turtle. The sapphire crystal won't scratch like the acrylic one on that old Mondaine. The ceramic bezel has not a mark in it since new. Unlike anodized aluminum or bakelite might have. The bracelet works. I would like to see the clasp with a push button release like the one on my Turtle but it DOES NOT need a dive extension. I'm one of the few that actually like the Seiko stamped clasp. It might even be stronger than the milled one on the Vaer bracelet. And it is certainly thinner and lighter than fully milled ones like everybody raves about like on a newer Submariner. Those things must be close to 3/8's of an inch thick. The clasp on the Vaer bracelet like the Seiko is very close to 1/4 of an inch thick. As far as the Vaer bracelet having sharp edges, well maybe if your prone to paper cuts. As far as the vintage radium color of the lume falling out of favor in 10 years, I doubt it. That Mondaine I had was REAL radium. Looked good then and I still like that look. Both of my Vaers wear it. In fact that's one of the first things about the Vaer that caught my eye. Vaer makes white available for those that think it's just a fad. These Vaer divers are something special. Get one on your arm and you will know what I'm talking about. D5 "assembled in America" I just could not resist. I think Ryan and Reagan are on the right track and I hope they bring us more watches with more choices in dials, bezels and hands soon.
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A brilliant review. I think the fit and finish of the case deserves more focused attention, and the buttery smooth operation of the bezel deserves comment. The height of this watch is certainly lower than the norm, and worthy of comment. But, you captured the spirit of the project in a nutshell. It is not a clone, not strictly an homage, but is clearly full of the dna from several classical dive watches. One might call it son of marine master. I hope that you will review the new dirty dozen inspired 36mm hand wound A12 from VAER. If you are into field watches, and have a 6.5" wrist, this might scratch your itch. Mine is in shipment now.
Thank you for your thoughts! You are correct, I could've spent more time on the nitty gritty of the finishing and details. I tried my best to give a solid overview so that watch folk and non-watch folk alike would find the video engaging.
It would make sense to include The new Christopher Ward dive watch in this comparison. I already voted with my money, for the VAER, but that was before the Christopher Ward was released. Today, the choice would be more difficult. Christopher Ward's bracelets are very well done.
Thanks for the comment Jason, I think this would be a great comparison, and we'd be happy to make it happen from our side. We'll reach out to the team at Stridewise, but please feel free to comment on other 3rd party TH-cam reviewers, and if anyone wants to do it, we'll provide the watches for a side-by-side test.
@@thehunt226 We like both of these brands a lot, and would be more than happy to provide product for a direct comparison. I am a bit curious what makes you think they'd win hands down. We offer 20ATM + exhibition caseback, AND a top-grade decorated ETA movement, so I'm pretty sure it would at least be a fair contest. Also, if you like leather goods - our USA-made Horween straps are about the best of any microbrand (or large brand for that matter). Feel free to reach out to Lorier as a satisfied customer to see if they're interested, and we'll make it happen from our side.
@@ivermec-tin666 Christopher Ward has been doing great things for a long time, and certainly a continued reference point that we use for our standards of quality. I think a Baltic/Lorier/Vaer vs. review would a fairer comparison, as we're true independent microbrands, and we're competing in roughly the same category. That said, we'd also love to see a head-to-head with Chris Ward for our upcoming GMT, or even our gen II D7.
I want to like this watch, but I can't understand why the printed numerals on the bezel (at 30 and 40) are way off-center on their website (and on some of the reviews I've watched).
Interesting point! It's not something that I noticed on this watch specifically, though the alignment at twelve was slightly off, it was what I'd consider within tolerance (Much tighter tolerance than even on my Rolex 16610 belive it or not!)
The d7 is a little overpriced the 15% off makes it more competitive. I personally like established brands more i would probably go grey market Mido Ocean Captain $650 or Longines Hydroconquest $925 or Seiko Willard $1000
I’m a total WIS, and have owned many Rolex’s, Omega’s, and even a few AP’s and Vacheron’s...yet I must say that Seiko offers the most bang for your buck, hands down! I’ll definitely check out Vaer though.
Wow, Nick- branching out into watches! This Vaer looks nice as a retro diver but at the $800 mark for a micro using a Swiss ETA movement, I would go the Christopher Ward. And for the lower $500 variant, it is good to see Vaer use the the high-beat Miyota 9039 rather than the lower 8XXX series but in this price range I would look at the Rotary Super 7 (I think the orange color-way is the best) or Seiko mini-turtle. It's good that point out some of the flaws with the bracelet, but it would have been good to talk for a few seconds about what appears to be the lack of any half-links and how the clasp operated. I'll assume it's not a pressed clasp but Vaer could have snuck in a cheap pressed divers extension. How they handled that would be good to know. There's a lot of ways to do it and either the $500 or $800 price-point I expect a lot better than simple press clasp diver extensions. If the Chinese's brands of Pagani Design and San Martan can do decent glide-lock versions for less than $300, I expect a lot more out of micro-brands at $500 and $800. Since a lot is said about ceramic bezels, it is also fair to point out that Rotary's Super 7 Scuba uses a fully lumed ceramic bezel and sapphire. And while they do not use the high-beat Miyota 9039, it does use the 8215 and the $300 price tag reflects that as well. And the Lume on these Vaers aren't going to be too everyone's liking and when this color falls out of favor in 10 years, not sure what the resale on these types of retro are going to be as a result. Two other points to consider as well before we say its the best at these prices - 1) While I do like the dimensions, 40/20, for a dive watch it's actually considered a little small since divers are tool watches first- function over form. 2) Exhibition caseback- although there are a lot of divers out there that do that, I'm not aware of any ISO (which this is not) or any non-ISO that want to be considered as a real possibility as a diver that use exhibition casebacks. So that makes me think, is the best of the desk-divers or a real non-ISO that could be used as a diver because it does everything you need it to do, it won't fail on you and it's reliable? Overall, I think Vaer has a couple of great watches, but at those prices, I think there are a lot better options even by other micros (Helm, Steinhart, CW) or big names (Rotary [Super 7],Seiko, Bulova (Devil Diver), to just name a few that offer more value whether its as a desk-diver or used as a real diver. Cheers!
If you hate faux-tina as much as I do, then choose a white lumed dial, such as the Arctic White. Do not underestimate the fit and finish of the case of the VAER watch. Aside from being symmetrical, it is dimensionally the same as a classic marine master. The twisted lugs are elegant and form fitting. Look closer. Re: ISO. Make up your mind. You either require ISO certification or you don't. If you do, then you will find next to zero microbrand options. ISO certification is expensive. Only a large brand is going to be able to offer that. And, if that mattered to me, I would look at Yema, at a higher price point. CW is the only brand you mention that makes a dive watch near these dimensions. For those who live in the UK, CW is hard to beat for value. VAT and Customs impact the value proposition. Re: the exhibition case back. I agree, but it is hardly a deal breaker. And, yes, CW makes better bracelets. Seiko, not so much, but excellent strapcode bracelets are made for most Seiko models... at an uptick.
Good points! I think Nick and his team do a great job putting these out and trying to find different content that their audience appreciates! I really like seeing the collaboration and special guests!
@@andrewk1916 Thanks for a very lengthy, and well-informed comment (the passion/knowledge of watch enthusiasts never ceases to amaze me). That said, I'd push back on the Chris Ward comment, I don't know the full spec list of their current lineup, but I'm pretty sure they've largely switched to SW200 (Selita) movements on their $1000 Divers, at least that's what's being used on the C60 Trident. While it's a drop-in replacement for the ETA 2824 - it's certainly less expensive/less collectible, particularly when decorated like our current D7 (again, which has a base retail of $100 less than the C60). ETA movements are so rare these days that we will likely follow Chris Ward, Baltic, etc. and switch to Selita for our 2nd gen D7s. I bring this point up to provide some additional context on the rarity/value of the design in its current form. ETA 2824 movements on the open market right now are hovering around $300 per 100pcs (if you can find them) and that puts them pretty much out of reach for all value-oriented sub-$1000 designs. Additionally, regarding our D5 series, keep in mind that the pricing of our Miyota pieces is reflective of our USA assembly and regulation, which costs us the same as our Swiss Assembly and testing. Chinese assembly will always win the value game (at least until it's replaced by machine assembly), so the "value" of our D5/A5 models will always depend in part on an owner's interest in supporting USA source origin/the watchmaking craft.
@@VaerWatches Vaer Team- thanks for taking the time to reply back and jump into the conversation! It's getting rarer to see companies take the time to help educate and inform the novice (such as myself) about the market and its conditions affecting a brand or particular line. I have been reading a lot about the scarcity of the 2824s which is pushing micros and others to look for other options as you point out. The point about the growing relative scarcity of the ETA movements and small companies trying to use them in something below $1000 (let alone at the $500) illuminates a problem that the micro industry seems to have as a result - how do small companies (such as Vaer) better educate and inform the buying public about the value that the watch represents due to the scarcity of the ETA movements? I think this would seem like a natural point that companies would want to make as a part of any marketing drum-beat or frame the conversation to help build the exclusivity about the ETA movement and build part of the story around the movements history, which in some smaller and newer companies, this could be seen as an attribute. Especially if the Swiss maker is limiting the ETA supply to the world and being one of the smaller companies to be on the list to get the ETAs would further seem like something that's a little exclusive. And, I submit, if people are paying over $500USD they want to buy something that will make them feel slightly exclusive (and many will know that this a watch that costs
Those look pretty nice. I'm not much a fan of dive watches though, I just don't find the style appealing for some reason. I really like the field watch style though.
Very good review! BUT, when are five watches ever going to catch a break and stop being compared to big brand classic designs and just appreciated for their own strengths and weaknesses? The term “homage” has broadened to now to basically mean “anything other than Rolex/Omega”.
Its a good point. I would love for more watches to be taken on their own merits. However, when a design is as intentionally referential as this one, it requires discussion.
I don’t think there will ever be another paradigm shifting mechanical or quartz watch design again so you should just get used to all watches being copies of each other.
@@troybarmore5832 The firm behind Ameriquartz intend to bring an American assembled automatic movement to market. They are part of the TATA group. I don't know of any other caliber manufacturer that plans to do this. It has been several decades since Hamilton ceased the manufacture of movements in the USA. The standard set for the label, "Made in USA" is far higher than that of "Swiss Made". It is practically unobtainable outside of luxury watches, unless the standards are revised.
Not to be a killjoy or anything, but this review seems really biased (maybe because of the promotional aspect, I dont know). He mentioned the bare minimum and really pointed people who might not know about watches to a timepiece that seems overpriced. He said that ceramic bezels are rare for watches under a grand, thats just not true...He makes a point to say that they designed these to be able to be taken diving, but fails to mention how the open back case is just a possible failure point in pressurized situations (hence why companies (even ones half the price of these) do a solid screw down case back. He didnt mention if the crow was screw down, which would be important for diving,. He didnt mention the crystal (im sure if it was a double domed sapphire he would have said it would be rare at the price point too...). The oyster bracket being shit is also a big deal, seeing as how leather on a dive watch doesn't work (salt water and all). The fact that they couldn't even get that right is really troubling and what worse is that instead of making it right for existing customers they only are offering a coupon voucher (which he seemed to think was cool?!). I know Nick isnt a watch guy, but I trust his reviews a lot more than this guys...It just had so many omissions that are important to mention (so either hes not really a watch guy, which I think he probably is, or he omitted them because the watch is just average and with the flaws it does have wouldn't be able to compete at the price point). Again, im sorry Nick...I really do love you channel. Im not trying to sound like a dick...I just think its really important that people who are ignorant on the product are not convinced to buy something that doesnt seem like the value hes making it out to be.
Hi, Troy here - Happy to jump in and address these thoughts. 1) The ceramic bezel insert is a nice detail on this watch and deserves praise. The fact of the matter is that most (but certainly not all) dive watches under $1000 have aluminum bezel inserts. 2) When it comes to case backs and security, the thing that makes a watch water resistant is the gaskets. A well-made, screw down exhibition case back in reality is no more vulnerable than a closed case back, provided the watch is properly secured and pressure tested to its given depth rating. If you doubt that, have a look at the new Tudor BB58 925 or any number of other watches with exhibition case backs and depth ratings. 3) Yes, the watch has a screw down crown. Yes it’s a good thing and should’ve been pointed out. 4) The crystal is indeed double domed sapphire, which is mentioned in the full written review. 5) The bracelet is not good, which I point out unflinchingly - frankly it is what I’d expect a $79 bracelet to be, cheap. Vaer is aware of it, is making improvements, and is giving existing owners an option to upgrade at a reduced price. I think that’s better than not offering customers the option. However, if the bracelet is a concern when diving, that’s what the rubber strap is there for. 6) My honest opinion of this watch is as I’ve stated. The things I didn’t like, i.e. the bracelet and small finishing details, are truly the only things that I felt were lacking. You can take this information for what you will. Ultimately, this video review is meant for the Stridewise audience, which is primarily focused on heritage menswear and fashion. We’re not a watch channel, therefore this review is geared towards a balance of aesthetics and function. As mentioned in the video, for a more in depth look, the written review provides even more detail. Thanks for your comments!
@@troybarmore5832 thank you Troy for the response. I feel they should have handled the issues with the bracelet differently and feel that exhibition case backs are too risky (being just another possible failure point). Regardless I apologize for my tone (and apparently numerous typos) of the last post. I came at you hot and it wasn't deserved, so sorry.
My Vaer S3 Tradition (formerly their C3 Tradition) is 36mm of absolute perfection! I don't know where to begin. The brushing, the sleekness, the vintage tool watch vibe with it's black/amber dial and it's flawless, high end finish. THEN there are it's specs/features: 36mm case, 20mm lugs, screw-in case back, screw in crown, 100m WR, sapphire crystal and (best of all) QUARTZ! This is the watch many of us have waited for our whole lives: A quartz Explorer/Smiths Everest. I LOVE THIS WATCH !! Well done, Vaer.
I just bought a S3 white dial. Love it. Add that the quick release straps are fantastic and not found in Seiko or other makers. And the links in the steel bracelet are solid, not hollow. Anti reflective coating and lume are excellent.
The Vaer D5 and D7 are underrated by more than a few watch reviews I have read. I own both and have worn the D5 continuously for the past several months. I watched a video from Vaer where Ryan described why they built their divers the way they did. They are surfers and scuba dive also. He said the 200 meter depth rating was enough for MOST peoples use of a "water proof" dive watch. He said they could have made it with a 300 meter rating but the case would have been thicker. It's made affordable enough that they don't worry about it when they are in the ocean. I would not say that wearing a $10,000 Submariner or a Seamaster but that's just me.
One of the many things I like about these watches is how thin they wear. Sure in the center of the domed crystal I measure 13 1/2 mm but out at the edge of the bezel it is close to 10mm. It could be called streamlined or sleek with it's flying saucer shape.
What ever it is it works. Exhibition case back leaking? In theory, maybe. In reality, Not likely. I like it. Seeing the movement is cool. I would venture a guess most dive watch leaks are from the crown being left unscrewed by the owner. Not thru an exhibition case back.
I have worn dive watches since 1969 starting with a Mondaine. I spent most of that summer in the water at Huntington Beach wearing that watch. After the Mondaine came Seiko's. Last one before the Vaer D5 was a 773 Turtle. In my opinion these Vaers are as close to ideal as I have found. A quick glance and I can pick up the precise time. Maybe even quicker than with my Turtle. The sapphire crystal won't scratch like the acrylic one on that old Mondaine. The ceramic bezel has not a mark in it since new. Unlike anodized aluminum or bakelite might have. The bracelet works. I would like to see the clasp with a push button release like the one on my Turtle but it DOES NOT need a dive extension. I'm one of the few that actually like the Seiko stamped clasp. It might even be stronger than the milled one on the Vaer bracelet. And it is certainly thinner and lighter than fully milled ones like everybody raves about like on a newer Submariner. Those things must be close to 3/8's of an inch thick. The clasp on the Vaer bracelet like the Seiko is very close to 1/4 of an inch thick. As far as the Vaer bracelet having sharp edges, well maybe if your prone to paper cuts. As far as the vintage radium color of the lume falling out of favor in 10 years, I doubt it. That Mondaine I had was REAL radium. Looked good then and I still like that look. Both of my Vaers wear it. In fact that's one of the first things about the Vaer that caught my eye. Vaer makes white available for those that think it's just a fad.
These Vaer divers are something special. Get one on your arm and you will know what I'm talking about. D5 "assembled in America" I just could not resist. I think Ryan and Reagan are on the right track and I hope they bring us more watches with more choices in dials, bezels and hands soon.
Wow. Just got a Vaer watch yesterday. Very solid. Navy blue bezel. Looks and feels great.
Highly recommend this brand.
I’ve never been more confident in my first watch to myself ever. Thank you for this review. Just got a 42mm r1 and can not wait.
An absolute Vaer fan here....C5 and D5 owner. Love both and more than that, I give much respect to the stewards of the company.
I'm glad Vaer is getting some love. I think their most interesting watches are the ones made with Ameriquartz.
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i notice that jody from 'just one more watch' likes vaer. he's my goto watch guy (especially for
Yeah Troy knows absolutely everything about watches so when he said he liked Vaer I was like we should do a video on them haha
A brilliant review. I think the fit and finish of the case deserves more focused attention, and the buttery smooth operation of the bezel deserves comment. The height of this watch is certainly lower than the norm, and worthy of comment. But, you captured the spirit of the project in a nutshell. It is not a clone, not strictly an homage, but is clearly full of the dna from several classical dive watches. One might call it son of marine master.
I hope that you will review the new dirty dozen inspired 36mm hand wound A12 from VAER. If you are into field watches, and have a 6.5" wrist, this might scratch your itch. Mine is in shipment now.
Thank you for your thoughts! You are correct, I could've spent more time on the nitty gritty of the finishing and details. I tried my best to give a solid overview so that watch folk and non-watch folk alike would find the video engaging.
I'm happy I have the D4 Navy Meridian, and I'm happy with the VAER COMPANY!
Some of the indices are not matching the bezel..did any one notice that
Excellent writing. Excellent presentation. Beautiful looking watch.
So glad you liked it!
Than you so much!
I'd like to see you compare this to Baltic and Lorier's Divers.
Baltic and Lorier will win, hands down. My Hyperion even beats my EXI in wristtime....
It would make sense to include The new Christopher Ward dive watch in this comparison. I already voted with my money, for the VAER, but that was before the Christopher Ward was released. Today, the choice would be more difficult. Christopher Ward's bracelets are very well done.
Thanks for the comment Jason, I think this would be a great comparison, and we'd be happy to make it happen from our side. We'll reach out to the team at Stridewise, but please feel free to comment on other 3rd party TH-cam reviewers, and if anyone wants to do it, we'll provide the watches for a side-by-side test.
@@thehunt226 We like both of these brands a lot, and would be more than happy to provide product for a direct comparison. I am a bit curious what makes you think they'd win hands down. We offer 20ATM + exhibition caseback, AND a top-grade decorated ETA movement, so I'm pretty sure it would at least be a fair contest. Also, if you like leather goods - our USA-made Horween straps are about the best of any microbrand (or large brand for that matter). Feel free to reach out to Lorier as a satisfied customer to see if they're interested, and we'll make it happen from our side.
@@ivermec-tin666 Christopher Ward has been doing great things for a long time, and certainly a continued reference point that we use for our standards of quality. I think a Baltic/Lorier/Vaer vs. review would a fairer comparison, as we're true independent microbrands, and we're competing in roughly the same category. That said, we'd also love to see a head-to-head with Chris Ward for our upcoming GMT, or even our gen II D7.
I want to like this watch, but I can't understand why the printed numerals on the bezel (at 30 and 40) are way off-center on their website (and on some of the reviews I've watched).
Interesting point! It's not something that I noticed on this watch specifically, though the alignment at twelve was slightly off, it was what I'd consider within tolerance (Much tighter tolerance than even on my Rolex 16610 belive it or not!)
Absolutely brilliant review! The best I have ever seen from any watch reviewer. Major Adaboys to you, put on some shades your futures so bright. Lol
Is this a review or a sponsored video? I'm confused.
It's a review! Sponsored review wouldn't make sense. They reached out and we liked the product so we made this
very nice review. i am interested in seeing a video review of your ship john jacket.
you're in luck! one is coming :)
Thank you! Stay tuned!
Nick, what brand is the jacket? Very nice
Rogue Territory tan ridgeline supply jacket
That's Ship John, here's the written review - video upcoming! stridewise.com/ship-john-wills-jacket-review/
Love watch reviews so cool!
The d7 is a little overpriced the 15% off makes it more competitive. I personally like established brands more i would probably go grey market Mido Ocean Captain $650 or Longines Hydroconquest $925 or Seiko Willard $1000
What is the diameter?
The case is approximately 39mm excluding the bezel and crown.
@@troybarmore5832 the case is 39mm. The bezel is 40mm.
I’m a total WIS, and have owned many Rolex’s, Omega’s, and even a few AP’s and Vacheron’s...yet I must say that Seiko offers the most bang for your buck, hands down!
I’ll definitely check out Vaer though.
Yep that seems to be the consensus!
Seiko is tough to top!
Count me in as a Seikoholic ❤
Wow, Nick- branching out into watches! This Vaer looks nice as a retro diver but at the $800 mark for a micro using a Swiss ETA movement, I would go the Christopher Ward. And for the lower $500 variant, it is good to see Vaer use the the high-beat Miyota 9039 rather than the lower 8XXX series but in this price range I would look at the Rotary Super 7 (I think the orange color-way is the best) or Seiko mini-turtle. It's good that point out some of the flaws with the bracelet, but it would have been good to talk for a few seconds about what appears to be the lack of any half-links and how the clasp operated. I'll assume it's not a pressed clasp but Vaer could have snuck in a cheap pressed divers extension. How they handled that would be good to know. There's a lot of ways to do it and either the $500 or $800 price-point I expect a lot better than simple press clasp diver extensions. If the Chinese's brands of Pagani Design and San Martan can do decent glide-lock versions for less than $300, I expect a lot more out of micro-brands at $500 and $800. Since a lot is said about ceramic bezels, it is also fair to point out that Rotary's Super 7 Scuba uses a fully lumed ceramic bezel and sapphire. And while they do not use the high-beat Miyota 9039, it does use the 8215 and the $300 price tag reflects that as well. And the Lume on these Vaers aren't going to be too everyone's liking and when this color falls out of favor in 10 years, not sure what the resale on these types of retro are going to be as a result. Two other points to consider as well before we say its the best at these prices - 1) While I do like the dimensions, 40/20, for a dive watch it's actually considered a little small since divers are tool watches first- function over form. 2) Exhibition caseback- although there are a lot of divers out there that do that, I'm not aware of any ISO (which this is not) or any non-ISO that want to be considered as a real possibility as a diver that use exhibition casebacks. So that makes me think, is the best of the desk-divers or a real non-ISO that could be used as a diver because it does everything you need it to do, it won't fail on you and it's reliable? Overall, I think Vaer has a couple of great watches, but at those prices, I think there are a lot better options even by other micros (Helm, Steinhart, CW) or big names (Rotary [Super 7],Seiko, Bulova (Devil Diver), to just name a few that offer more value whether its as a desk-diver or used as a real diver. Cheers!
If you hate faux-tina as much as I do, then choose a white lumed dial, such as the Arctic White.
Do not underestimate the fit and finish of the case of the VAER watch. Aside from being symmetrical, it is dimensionally the same as a classic marine master. The twisted lugs are elegant and form fitting. Look closer.
Re: ISO. Make up your mind. You either require ISO certification or you don't. If you do, then you will find next to zero microbrand options. ISO certification is expensive. Only a large brand is going to be able to offer that. And, if that mattered to me, I would look at Yema, at a higher price point.
CW is the only brand you mention that makes a dive watch near these dimensions. For those who live in the UK, CW is hard to beat for value. VAT and Customs impact the value proposition.
Re: the exhibition case back. I agree, but it is hardly a deal breaker. And, yes, CW makes better bracelets. Seiko, not so much, but excellent strapcode bracelets are made for most Seiko models... at an uptick.
Good points! I think Nick and his team do a great job putting these out and trying to find different content that their audience appreciates! I really like seeing the collaboration and special guests!
@@andrewk1916 Thanks for a very lengthy, and well-informed comment (the passion/knowledge of watch enthusiasts never ceases to amaze me). That said, I'd push back on the Chris Ward comment, I don't know the full spec list of their current lineup, but I'm pretty sure they've largely switched to SW200 (Selita) movements on their $1000 Divers, at least that's what's being used on the C60 Trident. While it's a drop-in replacement for the ETA 2824 - it's certainly less expensive/less collectible, particularly when decorated like our current D7 (again, which has a base retail of $100 less than the C60). ETA movements are so rare these days that we will likely follow Chris Ward, Baltic, etc. and switch to Selita for our 2nd gen D7s. I bring this point up to provide some additional context on the rarity/value of the design in its current form. ETA 2824 movements on the open market right now are hovering around $300 per 100pcs (if you can find them) and that puts them pretty much out of reach for all value-oriented sub-$1000 designs. Additionally, regarding our D5 series, keep in mind that the pricing of our Miyota pieces is reflective of our USA assembly and regulation, which costs us the same as our Swiss Assembly and testing. Chinese assembly will always win the value game (at least until it's replaced by machine assembly), so the "value" of our D5/A5 models will always depend in part on an owner's interest in supporting USA source origin/the watchmaking craft.
@@VaerWatches Vaer Team- thanks for taking the time to reply back and jump into the conversation! It's getting rarer to see companies take the time to help educate and inform the novice (such as myself) about the market and its conditions affecting a brand or particular line. I have been reading a lot about the scarcity of the 2824s which is pushing micros and others to look for other options as you point out. The point about the growing relative scarcity of the ETA movements and small companies trying to use them in something below $1000 (let alone at the $500) illuminates a problem that the micro industry seems to have as a result - how do small companies (such as Vaer) better educate and inform the buying public about the value that the watch represents due to the scarcity of the ETA movements? I think this would seem like a natural point that companies would want to make as a part of any marketing drum-beat or frame the conversation to help build the exclusivity about the ETA movement and build part of the story around the movements history, which in some smaller and newer companies, this could be seen as an attribute. Especially if the Swiss maker is limiting the ETA supply to the world and being one of the smaller companies to be on the list to get the ETAs would further seem like something that's a little exclusive. And, I submit, if people are paying over $500USD they want to buy something that will make them feel slightly exclusive (and many will know that this a watch that costs
What japan movement?
Miyota 9000 series. These are high beat, with specs roughly comparable to ETA 2824, but the rotor is unidirectional.
Well done fellow watch nerd, I have the Omega Aqua Terra in green 👍
Those look pretty nice. I'm not much a fan of dive watches though, I just don't find the style appealing for some reason. I really like the field watch style though.
I just got the field watch! Automatic and Quartz, we'll be comparing them soon
Very good review! BUT, when are five watches ever going to catch a break and stop being compared to big brand classic designs and just appreciated for their own strengths and weaknesses? The term “homage” has broadened to now to basically mean “anything other than Rolex/Omega”.
Its a good point. I would love for more watches to be taken on their own merits. However, when a design is as intentionally referential as this one, it requires discussion.
I don’t think there will ever be another paradigm shifting mechanical or quartz watch design again so you should just get used to all watches being copies of each other.
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It would be nice if they where fully made in the USA
It would indeed. Domestic movements are a tough hill to climb, but maybe one day!
@@troybarmore5832 The firm behind Ameriquartz intend to bring an American assembled automatic movement to market. They are part of the TATA group. I don't know of any other caliber manufacturer that plans to do this. It has been several decades since Hamilton ceased the manufacture of movements in the USA.
The standard set for the label, "Made in USA" is far higher than that of "Swiss Made". It is practically unobtainable outside of luxury watches, unless the standards are revised.
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Looks like a 1970's Royal Navy Diver to me. Straight homage , and thats ok!
Not to be a killjoy or anything, but this review seems really biased (maybe because of the promotional aspect, I dont know). He mentioned the bare minimum and really pointed people who might not know about watches to a timepiece that seems overpriced. He said that ceramic bezels are rare for watches under a grand, thats just not true...He makes a point to say that they designed these to be able to be taken diving, but fails to mention how the open back case is just a possible failure point in pressurized situations (hence why companies (even ones half the price of these) do a solid screw down case back.
He didnt mention if the crow was screw down, which would be important for diving,. He didnt mention the crystal (im sure if it was a double domed sapphire he would have said it would be rare at the price point too...). The oyster bracket being shit is also a big deal, seeing as how leather on a dive watch doesn't work (salt water and all). The fact that they couldn't even get that right is really troubling and what worse is that instead of making it right for existing customers they only are offering a coupon voucher (which he seemed to think was cool?!).
I know Nick isnt a watch guy, but I trust his reviews a lot more than this guys...It just had so many omissions that are important to mention (so either hes not really a watch guy, which I think he probably is, or he omitted them because the watch is just average and with the flaws it does have wouldn't be able to compete at the price point).
Again, im sorry Nick...I really do love you channel. Im not trying to sound like a dick...I just think its really important that people who are ignorant on the product are not convinced to buy something that doesnt seem like the value hes making it out to be.
Hi, Troy here - Happy to jump in and address these thoughts.
1) The ceramic bezel insert is a nice detail on this watch and deserves praise. The fact of the matter is that most (but certainly not all) dive watches under $1000 have aluminum bezel inserts.
2) When it comes to case backs and security, the thing that makes a watch water resistant is the gaskets. A well-made, screw down exhibition case back in reality is no more vulnerable than a closed case back, provided the watch is properly secured and pressure tested to its given depth rating. If you doubt that, have a look at the new Tudor BB58 925 or any number of other watches with exhibition case backs and depth ratings.
3) Yes, the watch has a screw down crown. Yes it’s a good thing and should’ve been pointed out.
4) The crystal is indeed double domed sapphire, which is mentioned in the full written review.
5) The bracelet is not good, which I point out unflinchingly - frankly it is what I’d expect a $79 bracelet to be, cheap. Vaer is aware of it, is making improvements, and is giving existing owners an option to upgrade at a reduced price. I think that’s better than not offering customers the option. However, if the bracelet is a concern when diving, that’s what the rubber strap is there for.
6) My honest opinion of this watch is as I’ve stated. The things I didn’t like, i.e. the bracelet and small finishing details, are truly the only things that I felt were lacking. You can take this information for what you will.
Ultimately, this video review is meant for the Stridewise audience, which is primarily focused on heritage menswear and fashion. We’re not a watch channel, therefore this review is geared towards a balance of aesthetics and function. As mentioned in the video, for a more in depth look, the written review provides even more detail. Thanks for your comments!
@@troybarmore5832 thank you Troy for the response. I feel they should have handled the issues with the bracelet differently and feel that exhibition case backs are too risky (being just another possible failure point). Regardless I apologize for my tone (and apparently numerous typos) of the last post. I came at you hot and it wasn't deserved, so sorry.
Just go buy an invicta.