Top 10 Worst Looney Tunes Characters
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I'll give Sniffles this: Him getting smashed by a Monstar was one of the funniest moments in Space Jam.
People say that Space Jam didn't get who the Looney Tunes are, but I absolutely disagree with that. Not only does Sniffles have a cameo, but the joke is about how saccharine and obnoxious he is; only the nerdiest of Looney Tunes nerds would write that joke 😆
I like how all the tunes were laughing at him 😂😂😂
This is how i was introduce to him
That was Blanko who smashed Sniffles with a basketball.
The Sniffles cartoons aren't THAT bad, especially the final 3 cartoons where Jones, having made funny cartoons, turned Sniffles from a sweet-and-innocent character to a talkative annoyance. (That was even the version that was seen in Space Jam) Also, with a few exceptions, Chuck Jones's early LT cartoons weren't THAT bad, in general.
Also, the reason why people say Space Jam doesn't get the LT characters is that the LTs do things that are out-of-character. Bugs Bunny has defeated many villains, tiny or gigantic, by himself. Yet in SJ, Bugs enlists Michael Jordan and the LT characters to get rid of a bunch of aliens. The LTs, in general, can make explosives and giant mallets appear out of thin air, Elmer Fudd is a hunter and Yosemite Sam & Marvin the Martian have a bunch of guns and rayguns respectively. And yet in Space Jam, the LTs' plan is to go crying to MJ to defeat a bunch of aliens in a basketball game.
You know a character is one of the worst characters in existence, when even the people who worked on his cartoons hated him
Steppin was the name of an actual Black Actor?
@@KellyClement
Stepin Fetchit. He became the archetype of the dimwitted drawling shuffling man of color. Pretty much universally reviled today. But folk got to eat.
Who
@@KellyClement "Steppin Fetchit". Sadly yes. The character is a racist archetype that appears in many hollywood productions, whether radio, movies, cartoons or TV.
@@KellyClement look up the video: Cassius Clay explains the anchor punch, KO Liston. Young Muhammad Ali claims Steppin Fetchit taught him a punch used by Fetchit’s friend, champion Jack Johnson
Without giving away #1, that Animaniacs cartoon makes WAY MORE sense in hindsight.
Quite frankly he deserves the top spot.
Plus he's creepy
*We smashed Outback Buddy!~*
I never knew Buddy had an origin beyond Animaniacs
@@eclipsedmoon87 yeah, plus, Animaniacs gave Buddy a personality besides ‘Mickey but a Generic Guy’ .
I like how "romantically chasing the person against their will" is controversial and no laughing matter, but chasing a person with an intent to kill is perfectly acceptable as good family fun.
I dont know, maybe because its "not that weird"
Like we laugh because is a cartoon and they cant die/suffer but they can feel bad being chased for weird love so thats not funny
Lo voy a escribir en español porque el traductor no me anda bien (por si no se entendió mi comentario anterior en inglés)
Pasa que nos reímos de los dibujos animados cuando se pelean porque esos personajes no sufren de verdad los golpes y los intentos de asesinato son muy caricaturescos
Sin embargo en la caricatura de Pepe le Pew se puede notar claramente como la gata/otro animal hembra confundida con una zorrillo sufre por el acoso de Pepe, asi que ya no es divertido
Well, people get very upset over sexuality in cartoons, but they love, love, love all of that violence.
I would not stratify one of those against the other. The cartoon portrayal of sexual harassment was a metaphor for actual human behavior, whereas the road runner-coyote routine was about animals in the wild. It was not urging people to kill, or presenting that as innocent.
@@brianarbenz1329 I see your point, but I don't actually think they tried portraying sexual harassment as something positive - the skunk character is a desperate loser, even if you like the cartoon, you don't want to be like him, he is an anti-role model, not the other way around.
The thing with Pepe is that Pentelope is only running away from the smell, Pepe thinks she is a skunk not a cat. When the roles are reversed, as he loses his smell and colour, and she loses her stripe and smell, she does the exact same thing.
And Pepe realizes his mistake and starts booking it himself.
There was also an episode where Penelope loses her stripe and Pepe paints his own stripe black because he loves her despite her not being a skunk. Also the episode with the Chihuahua, he disguises as a dog to be with her.
@@DrCoeloCephalo "...Pepe paints his own black because he loves her despite her not being a cat."
You misspelled "skunk."
Exactly this. I think folks that rag on Pepe forget this. The problem people always have with him in his shorts is his stench.
His love interests don't usually (if at all? ) run away from him because they don't actually reciprocate his feelings or advances. They run because he's a skunk and stinks to high heaven.
pepe was one of the best characters. another numale biased review where everything must be viewed through the lens of modern woke progressiveness
As much as that era is hated, you gotta admit, AniMat recreated that opening sequence and transitions perfectly.
I did my own recreation of sorts, with the Saul Bass-designed Warner Bros. logo...
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Mhm
I actually like that era.
@@jadedheartsz me too
@@ALLPROS_real same brother 😎
The fact that both Pepe and Tweety won the Looney Tunes first two Oscars for their cartoons. And yet Bugs didn't get his until near the end of his prime is really saying something.
Upsets me that Daffy never got any, seriously Great Piggy Bank Robbery and Duck Amuck would both have easily won
@@Gex8202 Duck Amuck is simply one of the best Looney Tines episodes, period. It's a shame honestly that it haven't won any award
Daffy didn't get one he's like 2nd best after bugs bunny
Daffy’s actually my favorite.
One thing I will say in response to Pepe being 'outdated' is it's never shown that the cat dislikes the romance; but specifically is running from the terrible smell. Pepe seems like a genuinely nice, maybe even desirable; but he's screwed over by a fault outside his control. Heck, a few times the script got flipped, where the cat became smelly, and Pepe de-scented, and the roles immediately reversed with the cat chasing him and him running from the smell. They definitely could do a bit more with Pepe though than the same old gag.
She is running from him because she is a cat and he is a skunk. SHE is aware of this, but HE isn’t. Because she is a cat and he is a skunk, she isn’t attracted to him.
Everyone makes Pepe the bad guy because he's "sexist".
@@shawnoleary6031 yeah, and i'm honestly so sick of people saying that.
@@shawnoleary6031 he's the bad guy cause he comes off as a total creep.
It doesn't help that in order to get Penelope to get out of the glass case she was hiding to get away from pepe, pepe le pew decides to pull a gun and walk off. Combine that with his constant chasing and kissing on her when she's pushing him away is kinda creepy. It doesn't matter if it's the stink or not.
Also not helping matters is that he did try to get with Sylvester once despite having a family. Granted it was a one time thing, but it doesn't make pepe look any better to be a cheating hubby as well.
The way I would fix Pepe is have it so the cat can't smell and enjoys being with him and you just see the antics the two end up in.
That’s true. Stella and the Persian cat from Over The Hedge had a similar relationship for that reason. That being the cat couldn’t smell her and liked her.
Like in Over The Hedge?
@@jesusrox4u Yeah, Stella and Tiger are a more modern take on the cartoons in a way that doesn't get hit with controversy.
@@pennysanchez7656 That’s true.
@@shizuwolf I’m guessing likely so.
Buddy isn't a rip off of Mickey Mouse, he's a G rated male version of Betty Boop.
Right, but he said that foxy was the Mickey Mouse rip off
@@darkwingduck-kx5me Yeah, well they can CLAIM anything, but that doesn't make it so.
Buddy’s voice is what sells it
I was thinking that as well. First time I saw the 1933 Looney Tunes intro, I thought it was some sort of Betty Boop knockoff, but with nothing inappropriate or even memorable about it.
@@SamHalls2015 Yeah, it's pretty obvious.
I think the fact that Tweety is a jerk is part of what makes him so funny to people. It's the contrast of the idea that cute looking means the character is innocent, when the reality is sometimes the opposite. We actually see the same thing with characters like Darla Dimple from Cats Don't Dance or Sussie from Phineas and Ferb or to an extent Gideon from Gravity Falls, we laugh at they're cute personas being contrasted by the reality they're sadistic jerks and it's a welcomed contrast to characters that look cute and are nice
Let's not forget Cosy Glow too. There's another example of a cutesy little girl turns out to be a monster trope done right.
Aquamarine from Steven Universe is also a good example. She may look like a sweet little pixie, but she’s actually a cold hearted clod.
You do have a point there.
I get that argument, but I’d argue that the examples of what you brought up are characters that we love to hate because of how well they do their roles as antagonists, but Tweety was supposed to be viewed as a hero in the public eye, so therefore, I personally hate him, but with that said, I did understand your point
Yeah, but all those characters are either antagonists or villains that get their comeuppance. Tweety always wins and is portrayed as the hero
Fun Fact:
The only Looney Tunes cartoon to not depict Pepé Le Pew as the usual lovesick (and problematic) character that he is known for is 1948s Odor Of The Day, where he was a screwball comic relief character going up against a dog named Wellington.
Genuinely his best one mainly because it was something original
Pepé also appeared in a Looney Tunes "Christmas Carol" special that had Yosemite Sam play Ebenezer Scrooge, Porky Pig as Bob Cratchit, and Bugs Bunny as the ghosts of Christmas past, present, and future. Pepé's appearances were standing with Elmer Fudd and Foghorn Leghorn singing "Deck The Halls".
"Scent-imental Over You" shows the love interest as equal.
Another good example of Pepe done right, without going too over the top with the romantic stuff, was in The Looney Tunes Show.
Not going to the chasing down levels, but still being charming to Lola Bunny, the crazed love interest of Bugs, while fitting with the country club setting. And even funnier, when Bugs tries to fake a wedding to deny Lola, she denies Bugs for Pepe.
Really, if you take out the said "sexual harassment" of Pepé, he will look just like Johnny Bravo. He's just looking for someone to love but he can't because of his stench. They could work with this on future cartoons.
I think Pepe should be like Lupin the 3rd.
They recently tried to bring back Pepe the pew as a french spy "a la James bond" kinda way, complete with a red suit and a more modern character as a whole in the "Bugs, a Looney Tunes Production" cartoon, and I gotta say it does work well! Way better than the old ones, who I genually like but still agree that they are a bit dated nowadays.
he's married, literally showed his wife coming with his too kids and dragging him away
Yeah, but Pepe isn't truly a bad skunk. He's just a bit naively old fashion
And they do bring him back... in the New Looney Tunes, where he's a spy, and usually paired up with a female fox, whose name I can't remember.
I'm not sure what Pépé was like in previous versions, but he is genuinely awesome in the New Looney Tunes, and not only is he funny, but his spy scenes are genuinely interesting.
He also has a sarcastic dry humour which he uses in specific moments which work perfectly.
In terms of perversion, he rarely goes too far in these (I mean obviously, the show is late 2010s-early 2020s), and honestly the dynamic gives a Ladybug-Cat Noire duo vibe, but playing it slightly riskier.
Honestly I haven't seen many other versions of Pépé (embarrassingly), but from what I hear about earlier incarnations, I'm glad I've mainly seen the New Looney Tunes version.
I'm glad they rolled back Porky's stutter or kept it to specific moments. We get it not everyone is great at speaking and modern Porky is almost endearing when the joke is done well, but torturing a guy with a voice role he's just not getting into and playing that as the joke is just cruel. I don't know how it could be better then cause it's still annoying.
Sniffles looks like a draft of Don Bluths American Tale, like before leaving Disney. Glad Chuck 'freakin' Jones improved after this (this is a very strange mix up of animation studios).
''Sniffles looks like a draft of Don Bluths American Tale'' my thoughts exactally
@@ahtijansson9283 It's obvious that Don Bluth grew up watching Sniffles as a kid, and wanted to create his own appealing but bland little mouse that acts like a little boy character.
@@ahtijansson9283 Or a discount Fievel.
@@hunterolaughlin Fievel is from An American Tail...
I’m sure Gym Jordan hates Porky.
Charlie Dog and Claude Cat should have been each other's foils.
Also I always felt bad for Claude Cat, he was always being forced to live with new pets, and it was clear that the family doted on the new pets and ignored Claude and he just wanted his family to love him and as a cat only knows malice.
Pairing him with Charlie still has the same conflict except now positions him as more of a protagonist protecting his family against a con artist.
Good thinking!
Honestly, those shorts would've been insanely fun if that was the case.
That sounds fun also I don't know who Charlie the dog is i'm ashamed of myself
@@absolutemattlad2701 You're an absolute genuis for putting them together tbh.
The reason that Claude works as a character is that this is often the exact response you get from an old pet when a new pet arrives. All of these unlikable characters are very real.
Pepe ALWAYS got his ass kicked. He was a perfect example of how not to pursue someone.
Bro Penelope didn't run away cause she didn't like him. She hated his stench. It's a running gag that when pepe loses his smell she's crazy for him and he then runs away in fear
Fucking ironic
The way to salvage Pepe Lepew is to make him more like Johnny Bravo, where he's desperate for romance, but gets continually shot down every time by every female he tries it with. But instead of Johnny's toxic macho swagger, you could have Pepe be more of a walking bundle of romance fiction cliches of what he thinks women want, but always gets it badly wrong. And of course have him completely unaware that he smells.
You could also go back to the first Pepe cartoon, where he had a wife in a clearly loveless marriage, and you could have him be obsessed with fantasy romance as a way to escape his hellish real-life one.
Johnny is toxic and it's fun to see him get abused. Pepe I see as like Daffy where people try to punish or smash him but he always slips away and keeps trying. I don't know if you could have a self confident black cat who isn't taking any of his advances and keeps him at arms length but it's an interesting study where Johnny is mostly just (not) complained about for the same reason he gets karmatic punishment in his cartoons.
Not to mention how said first cartoon had his accent be fake! 😆
Or we could just accept him as he is and stop ignoring that Penelope loves him and only runs because of his horrific stench.
Jonny isn't toxic. Literally every female in his universe is an intersectional feminist. They don't rebuff his affections, they rebuff his personal comfort. The inconsistencies lay in the types of women who behave this way in the cartoons look like.
Real tweeter Karen's aren't usually pretty and are almost NEVER skinny like on the show. Johnny is criminalized for his tastes. It's like he says, "Often people aren't looking for love, they're looking for help!".
It's entertaining when Pepe fails, or when his expectations get turned around on him and he becomes the reluctant pursued party. But his later cartoons where he wins and the audience is supposed to like him? Those just come off as creepy. He's got the cat cornered, the cartoon irises out, and you just go "Um... now what? 😧"
I think the problem was that Chuck Jones, obsessed with character motivation like he was, felt too close to the character after a time. He said in interviews that Pepe was a mix of actor Charles Boyer and memories of his own awkward failures with girls in high school; it feels like Jones eventually let the latter overtake the former and turned Pepe into this wish fulfillment lothario who never lost confidence in the face of rejection and always got what he wanted. That's really not the best angle for a character like this.
Penelope likes Pepe. She's running from him cause he has a perpetual stink that literally kills flowers. This is proven every time she ends up chasing him because she can no longer smell him. Time to put this whole thing to bed.
Yup.
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@@tentrilliconlp7748 The Looney Tunes, the fuck did you think it was?
In Defense of Pepe le Pew
10. Hippety Hop really only existed for a joke to give Sylvester an opponent that was bigger then him so he could get his just desserts for always picking on smaller opponents. It puts him in an uno reverse situation; and did have some funny moments, but it does overstay it's welcome I will admit.
9. A lot of the early cast I feel struggled quite a bit. Much like how Happy Rabbit almost feels completely different from how Bugs Bunny is now; Porky's first incarnation really hurt his character; but luckily, both got better in time, and as a result, they are fine now.
8. Sniffles is just a Diet Disney parody. Which is why most reminders of him now, are just there for him to comedically get hurt.
7. YEAH, other then introducing us to "Smile darn ya, Smile" it's clear that Foxy was just trying to be Mickey Mouse.
6. Kinda sad to see this, as the Mice episodes prove that Claude Cat could work, when utilized properly. The episodes that do it wrong, have him appear as just a bully; but the episodes that do it right, show that he's paranoid; always imagining the worst outcome, causing him to be slightly neurotic in behavior. The episodes that show him this way, put him in a situation where he is the villain, yes; but you also kinda sympathize with him, since he could likely solve his problems by thinking rationally.
5. This one I struggled with. I get that Pepe le Pew is one note, and I understand that society has changed and that type of behavior most certainly is not tolerated (hell it wasn't even really back then; it's always been weird). But the thing is... Pepe le Pew IS always in the wrong, but people act like his episodes encourage that kind of behavior, while missing that he was always meant to be an antagonist; which is why every episode involves him causing problems for an innocent, and being captured or given a taste of his own medicine by the end. He's meant to be like Daffy; only instead of Greed being his downfall; it's undesired affection. But still, I can understand why some people don't like his cartoons anymore.
4. W7 Cartoons really were weird... I enjoyed some of the really low budget Road Runner and Daffy cartoons, but I'm glad I missed some of these 'new' toons. It seems to me, they were just trying to rip off Hanna-Barbera's stuff, poorly I might add; as some of those cartoons like Huckleberry Hound actually still have some great moments.
3. I think the main issue with Tweety; is Tweety himself is one note. He's cute, and that's the joke. It was funny in the past, when the cute was overlapped with how hilariously aggressive he was; but now, Tweety just kinda sits around, and begs for help; while Sylvester has to work around how to catch him, as he's protected by another character. So instead of being Tweety outsmarting Sylvester; it's Tweety being puppyguarded by Character X (Sometimes Granny, sometimes Spike, etc), and Sylvester trying to outsmart them, so he can outsmart Tweety... so it's basically a 2 against 1 situation; which isn't really funny. Interestingly, the episodes where Tweety DOES have to outwit Sylvester alone, end up being the funny ones, because often Sylvester loses due to his own faults.
2. Always felt like an annoying character of the week to me. He has some clever puns, but otherwise, never was too funny.
Honorable Mention: YES... I remember seeing this episode when I was younger, on a VHS tape... it's just Elmer Fudd as a racist stereotype... not ideal. Best left in the past, and have us LEARN from this type of discrimination and behavior. It wasn't okay then, and it's certainly not okay now.
1. Wow... I learned of a new character; and now wish I didn't know about them lol
Buddy is a waste of mental space except to hard core cartoon historians
Don't worry, you'll forget about Buddy eventually.
The show Sylvester and Tweetie mysteries does shake up the tweety Sylvester formula a bit
The honorable mention with the black racist slow Hunter was definitely one of those cartoons that I saw and I was like " are you f**** kidding me?" There's a racist depiction of black folks but given the time period in which the cartoon was released I'm not surprised
@@711desmond I actually remember that show. I remember liking it a lot; and I think it's because the actual episodes are built more like a Scooby Doo cartoon, but it has more of a 4 way dynamic, since Tweety, Sylvester, Hector and Granny all work off each other. It also had some genuinely clever ideas and set pieces which made it a really good show.
Pepe LePew was popular for various reasons that no longer apply as much today:
1. He was a parody of several once-famous film stars like Mischa Auer and Charles Boyer and Maurice Chevalier who were themselves parodies of the French lover stereotype.
2. He was a starcrossed lover. He thought that cat was a skunk. He would have wowed a lady skunk.
3. He was a skunk. He smelled bad (to a non skunk.) Hence Le "Pewww."
The joke was how clueless he was all but how.optimistic he remained.
The real burning issue is why was bunny drag so beloved then and so scary to modern Republicans now? Looney Tunes indeed.
One more thing to dislike about Cool Cat that wasn't mentioned: He's essentially a rip-off of the Pink Panther (who pre-dated him by about four years).
I think he's more of a rip-off of Snagglepuss TBH, since they have similar antagonists.
No problem with Cool Cat . I like The Pink Panther of course. Surprise i never saw SnagglePuss.
Plus pink panther was a silent character
@@josecrane4132 He spoke in later cartoons otherwise he remains silent.
@@haroldalexis4200 I'm well aware that there have been a few instances where the Panther did talk, but much like tom and jerry, their moments of dialogue are few and far between.
Early Porky breaks my heart. I have a friend with a stutter and she confided in me about how I never made fun of it. I tried my best to be patient. It's cruel to make fun of someone for something that's out of their control.
That was huge. I did not know that the original voice actor had a real stutter part of the gag was showcasing his actual handicap.
@@OdaSwifteye Yeah, same... Very unfortunate. And horribly ableist.
man that earl Porky was very cringy, i 'm happy they changed it's voice bc u only can feel bad about the actor/character trying to be funny while... it only gives u a sad face instead
@@fandenovelas777 Yup
I have an uncle who had the same speech impediment. The early Porky Pig character reminds me of him.
Basically my reaction to the number 1 spot: who tf is Buddy?! But I really liked the joke of the guy showing buddy to his pal and the other guy just says "congratulations, you just invented a cure for insomnia!"
Took me a while to understand the joke, but once it settled in, it’s a good one.
Hispanics LOVE Speedy Gonzales, but those with French relatives (like me) absolutely LOVE Pepe Le Pew because we know someone like him.
I do remember one joke with Pepe Le Pew that I liked. Sylvester was trying to catch Tweety but Tweety was protected by several dogs. The last plan he tried was painting a white line down his back. The plan worked, he got past the dogs (and I believe he even got Tweety in his grasp), but Pepe (who hadn't been in the entire episode) rushed in to do his usual thing with Sylvester. Can't remember what episode this was though
That episode was Dog Pounded.
@@diegosanchez5412 thanks
Right! The only time Pepe appears in a Friz Freleng cartoon.
I've Seen It The Looney Tunes Episode Was "Dog Pounded"
Tweety and Sylvester are my Favorites
10. I may check out those other Hippety Hopper cartoons that didn't follow the 'mistaken for giant mouse' schtick. Otherwise, this character was okay to me.
9. It's sad that Porky's first voice actor struggled with his performance in the earliest shorts. At least Mel Blanc was able to improve Porky's stuttering and made it more appealing.
8. I can see why "Space Jam" had one of the aliens smash Sniffles with a basketball. Speaking of Disney, the "Lilo & Stitch" tv show featured a parody of Sniffles through one of Jumba's experiments, with Rob Paulson using his Yakko voice for the character. Kind of funny seeing this come full circle in some way.
7. The fact that a clear Mickey Mouse knock-off got multiple shorts is very surprising.
6. Eh... I didn't care for this one.
5. Pepe can have his moments, but he was never among my favorite Looney Tunes characters. Maybe there is a way to revamp him for modern times, but we'll have to wait and see.
4. Haven't seen the W7 original characters, but just seeing the stiff animation is enough of a turnoff for me. At least stiff for Looney Tunes standards.
3. It probably depends on the short, but I can understand why Tweety isn't everyone's cup of tea.
2. Even as a dog person, I can't stand the idea of a character taking advantage of others like that. I guess Wile E. Coyote is the closest thing WB will have for a popular dog character since coyotes are technically canids.
Honorable Mention: Yeah... there's nothing else that needs to be said.
1. Good thing I only saw Buddy in that "Animaniacs" episode.
Tweety is like Jerry mouse they used their cuteness and they never get caught
@@stardusttodorki2679 Jerry never got caught, but he _did_ lose on occasion. Tweety never lost.
In the Wabbit/New Looney Tunes iteration (2015), they made Pepe le Pew into a secret agent with his casanova tendencies still around. Basically skunk James Bond.
@TKHulk OMG you're right! Damn, that's some homage right there. Thankfully they made him uniquely different from his original character art.
I respect your opinion on all of these characters (except for the hunter), lol. I love them all.
That grouchy bear was the worst in my opinion.
"Congratulations, Borax, you’ve just invented a cure for insomnia!"
Sarcasm!
Was it though
1:56 Hippety Hopper
4:13 Early Porky Pig
7:27 Sniffles
9:58 Foxy
12:58 Claude Cat
16:00 Pepé Le Pew
19:58 the W7 gang
23:44 Tweety
27:40 Charlie Dog
33:22 Buddy
30:47 not Elmer Fudd
Buddy: Our Worst
@@MichaelJacksonRobloxGaming He's BLAND and BORING.
Elmer Fud: That wittle wabbit
I think Pepe’s character traits are a little flawed in today’s day and age, but at the end of the day, it’s still genius. Wraps up all stereotypical 50’s movie French guys. As if women would fall head over heels for their accent, how they would never shower and only use cologne or perfume, and many other things.
They just needed better jokes with him. A little bit more original. 20 years and going, he’s still my favorite character, next to Wile.
When you put it that way it actually makes sense
I've always loved Pepe! Never minded that he's a one-trick pony (and as one of the complaints of the list creator was this one-dimensional aspect - Wile-E does the same thing in practically every episode too - and I love his toons!)
Yeah. Could always have a joke about how his endevours have caused him to get a restraining order, and as such, kind of lead to him try and re-learn how to actually woo a lady and stuff.
Could at least be a new twist on the shtick, and maybe have it where he basically struggles to keep his old habits in check, when trying to go out with his seemingly first successful date.
@@retrogamelover2012 Now that would be excellent character development.
Pepe is also the loser of his shorts. He's like Sylvester, Elmer and Wile E. He rarely wins.
Sniffles is one of my most hated Looney Tunes characters. Heck, one of the aliens stomping on him in the original Space Jam sums up how I feel about that character.
Funny enough, that’s about all I know about the character and even I could tell from a 30 second cameo, he had that whack on the head coming.
Why did he look like the mouse from American tail main character?
I wonder why that happen now it make sense why that alien did that.
It wasn’t a stomp, it was a basketball splat. Also, sadly he and Pepe never made it to A New Legacy. I missed them. But hey, Granny got promoted to player position after being the only Tune Squad cheerleader and Gossamer got an opportunity to play.
Am I the only one here who rooted for Wile E. Coyote & saw the Road Runner as the true villain? The situation of a starving coyote & a road runner teasing him with his "meep meep" sound is kind of a horrifying situation to be in. Like I always thought that Road Runner KNEW that the coyote was starving & actually wanted to eat, so he keeps trying to put him into misery to let him know that he'll never be able to eat anything other than sand. Like, some of the close ups of the road runner really do imply that he's the villain.
Eh not really. He never really attacks the coyote and is doing his own thing.
I would have Tweety for Roadrunner in this
Road Runner is merely out for survival, not because he teasing Wile E. Coyote. And besides, he does have his limits like in "Zoom and Bored". Now compared to Wile E. Coyote Other nemesis Bugs Bunny. Similar to the Road Runner, Bugs Bunny is out for Survival (Since this is the same rabbit that have to deal with Elmer Fudd, Yosemite Sam, and Daffy Duck Regularly) but he does a bit more teasing than the Road Runner. Mainly because unlike Road Runner, Bugs Bunny is simply too clever to be catch at all compared to the Self-Proclaimed Genius Wile E. Coyote, who is too stubborn to learn that Bugs is Clever enough to opposed him.
This was apparently a popular sentiment. There was one short (I sadly can't remember the name of it) where, thanks to a gag involving the two running through pipes, the Roadrunner winds up absolutely huge. Wile E. holds up a sign- 'Well, folks, you always wanted me to catch him... NOW what do I do?"
Wile E Coyote can't really be starving unless it's his own choice. He has tons of money to spend on all sorts of gadgets. If he wanted, he could simply order takeaway or get his groceries delivered. Instead, I agree with the character of Cliff Clayvin on an episode of Cheers where he states his opinion that it's not that coyote needs to eat or needs to eat a roadrunner. It's that he wants to eat that particular roadrunner.
Thankfully Foxy and Roxy got their own episode in Tiny Toons where they were retconned. And Buddy got one in Animaniacs where he was trashed on and was an actual villain
I don’t think Looney Tunes Shorts ever have a canon. Where is the proof of retcon of their shorts. Maybe you haven’t seen them?
Pepe Le Pew had some decent divirsity in The Looney Tunes Show, despite being a minor character in that show.
He was a wedding planner employed by the Country Club Lola's family are members of, he was one of the characters Daffy sent a hate email to, and he was part of the therapy group that Sam took Daffy to.
Tweety also had decent character development in TLTS, working with Sylvester so they can both get away from Taz. The two of them even teamed up with Taz when the three of them got lost so they could all return home. He was revealed to have been a messenger bird in WWII, and he whispered his gender in Sylvester's ear, with Sylvester's only response being, "I was wrong." And Tweety went to therapy where he relized that he wants to be chased by Sylvester because it's fun for him.
This might not be enough to make them good characters, but it's a slight improvement.
The Looney Tunes Show was an underrated gem.
Wait Tweety did what 💀
The show is literally a modernized version of these cartoons.
The Looney Tunes Show you're talking about was amazing and deserved more seasons. Daffy was my favorite.
Daffy Duck- U.S. Marine, corporate CEO, _AND_ Liscensed Cosmetologist.
And training for the marathon -> "I supplement my day with protein bars and energy drinks" Speedy: "That's a 2 litre of Root beer and a tube of cookie dough."
That show made me laugh so hard...
@@mayhemmcfly4229"butt paper", that is all.
For me, I'm fine with Pepe. Yeah, I can see how other people wouldn't like him in today's climate but in his cartoons, he just thinks the cat is being coy or playing hard to get because she never talks and actually tells him no. And in the end sometimes something happens where she gets the stripe off of her and he's not interested because she's not a skunk but usually at the same time he ends up having something happen that causes her to chase him and he gets his just desserts by getting to see how it feels to be chased by someone you're not interested in.
This right here.
as offended as anyone can get about pepe, he is most represented by his actual animal counterpart. Skunks are not so visually gifted, so not being able to identify everything is quite common. Also, most animals do exactly what pepe does regarding their courting process..
Exactly!
Penelope ran away due to his stench. But every once in a while, she pursued Pepe. Hard.
Sylvester seemed to always get abused more than any other LT character, he was even abused by Porky Pig. I hated the lighthouse short, that owner was beyond abusive, even as a kid I thought that was ridiculous. Owners beating up their pets generally are my least favorite characters.
Funny thing is, I actually enjoyed those old Porky Pig shorts.
Tweedy is an opportunist and Charlie Dog is a Frank Gallagher
I may have seen Buddy only once, ever. I remember because of Cookie...I actually remembered her but completely forgot about Buddy. That's how bad he was. I concur with this list, good job!
Cookie actually canonically died in between the Golden Age and Animaniacs.
I'd say the most abused of all the characters was good ol' Wile E. Coyote! He always finished a day working Road Runner looking like hell, usually when a giant rubber band and him better a flat boulder and a cliff!
One of my favorite Wile E. cartoons starts when he and a sheepdog walk up to a tree with a time clock on it. As they both punch in, they share friendly pleasantries with each other, before they go to the worksite where for the rest of the short, Coyote tries 😔 in vain to steal a sheep but sheepdog always thwarts him. At the end of the day, they meet again at the time clock to punch out, but Coyote is a sad wreck!
Thats actually ralph your talking about with the sheepdog thing.Coyote's main apperances range from bugs to roadrunner
The barnyard dog and Foghorn Leghorn are one of my favorite duos in Looney Tunes because they were always on equal playing ground with the dog eventually coming out on top. Leghorn would start it, but Dog would finish it and then the little chicken hawk would come in and do some stuff as well. I loved it. They were probably tied with Daffy and Bugs for my favorite duos on that show.
If you like Foghorn Leghorn, I recommend that you try to find some of the radio appearances of his model, Senator Claghprn. They are hilarious! (Unfortunately, not his movie, which was just awful.)
That line when you said "we've grown more intelligent now" made me genuinely bust out laughing 😂
Why?
@@RosheenQuynh If you were to ask me, it's because for as much as the internet connects us these days and is able to be a benefit as a way to share ideas and views on things in an intelligent manner, it's also very much a breeding ground for stupidity in my opinion. There is virtually no limit to what you're able to find on the internet if you're willing to dig deep enough, and you could very easily find something offensive in some way, shape or form, and this is were the problem lies. Many people on the internet will share their thoughts, whatever they may be, without any regard as to who they might offend, and this can lead to people lashing out angrily without giving it a second thought just because they feel the need to vent their frustration, and this isn't even going into the fact that some of the things people put online are blatantly mindless in some instances as well. Because of this, the internet has ultimately given people another outlet to be thoughtless as much as it's able to be used for something more productive
@@matthewkuscienko4616 Probably not their point but I understand
cause men still harass women and vice versa. Besides this line, to me anyway, kinda suggest that men just took advantage of women left and right back in those days which definitely isn't true. On the contrary men were well actually gentlemen. The reason the Pepe cartoons were seen as funny back then was because at the time it was absurd to think anyone would actually have to fight off unwanted romantic advances. that and the misunderstanding that Pepe didn't realize he smelt bad. but our world has become more and more sick and twisted in the decades since and men aren't gentlemen anymore so NOW it's no longer absurd to think a man would act this way cause that's unfortunately everyday life NOW. so Pepe shouldn't be blamed then for how people act NOW
@@RosheenQuynh because we're not smarter now,
In the slides lol
Technically, it is rumored that the black hunter made two appearances. One in the formentioned "All this and Rabbit Stew" and another in "Angel Puss" where he was given the name of "Sambo". Some say they are the same guy but this was never quite proven.
If I had to pick my least favorite one off character from the Looney Tunes, it would be that salesman from "Jungle Jitters", which is another cartoon from the Censored 11. Ironically, with all the racial stereotypes in that cartoon, the white characters look worse. The salesman looks like a goofy knockoff with too many teeth and I find his voice kinda of a mismatch and very boring. The queen in that short ain't much better. Is it bad to say that the black characters actually look less offensive and more human-like than the white characters in that short?
Black rhino ranger? is that you?
it’s not bad to say that
i mean it’s kind of like instant karma for drawing black people as slow and donut-lippy
Oh jeez........the "I hope I hope I hope I hope I hope I hope" guy. I completely forgot about that Goofy knockoff.......and probably for the best that I did.
I am probably the only person on planet earth who sees Buddy’s potential.
All I’m imagining now is a movie where Buddy starts out as this bland regular schmegular guy and then he gets to interact with all the crazier Looney Tunes and either becomes the straight man to their antics, slowly gets more and more crazy over time, or treats them with blissful naïveté and we get to see the interactions that ensue.
Me who actually wants Buddy to return as a protagonist:
Honestly, a Looney Tunes game based on Epic Mickey (Epic Buggs) would be a good thing, we Buddy being a guy who had everything and lost everything because of Buggs and he wants nothing more but to leave the Wastelands. However, depending on how the player behaves, Buddy will base his personality on how Buggs behaves.
If Buggs is a good person, Buddy will be sceptical but in the end he's a quick friend and a Toon student for learning how to stand out.
If Buggs is a bad person, Buddy becomes demented as his only home is destroyed and prevents Buggs from leaving turning Buggs into a monster and Buddy's chance of becoming a killer dictator of the Cartoon Realm and Wastelands.
But still, the potential for Buddy exists
Yeah. And the animaniacs turned him into a villain who gave Yakko, Wakko, and Dot their first introduction in their origin story.
How dare you say anything negative about the Looney Tunes, that isn't related to Space Jam!
Still, great video
Space Jam actually got me back into Looney Tunes as an adult.
What's wrong with Space Jam (aside from the sequel influencing the STUPID idea to put LeBron James in Multiversus)?
@Raylan Givens Nah. She was Eye Candy, and we LOVED it back in '96.
@Raylan Givens She was BRAND NEW, designed as Bugs' New Romantic Foil. We liked her in 1996 and knew that WB was going to develop her character further as time went by. In which they did in the Looney Tunes Show. Lola is actually a Retconn of Honey Bunny, Bugs' Love Interest created by Chuck Jones back in 1951. Honey was voiced by June Foray.
@@Tornado1994 Lola was a stereotypical Strong Female Character from the perspective of the 1990s. Sexualized but posturing like a tough girl whenever anyone oogled over her. There was absolutely nothing more to her than that, besides being a designated love interest for Bugs. It wasn't until the Looney Tunes Show that anyone made any good use of her.
And Space Jam was trash. Both of them. Having the Looney Tunes be second fiddle to atheletes who can't act is a huge waste of their capabilities.
10: Compared to Tweety and Speedy, why would we need Hippety Hopper?
9: To quote the first Bill and Ted film, he gets better.
8: Give me Fievel any day.
7: Give me Sniffles any day. At least he only copied the idea of a Disney short.
6: Is it wrong for me to say every Golden Age character Claude has come across is basically too obscure to recognize? Yes, even Marc Antony and Pussyfoot?
5: Something tells me this half is where the turds start multiplying like film strips. Ergo, worse than rabbits.
4: If there was ever a need for a tie in this list, this would have been that tie. However, I'd place Cool Cat as the worst because of how his standalone career ended, which gives him the most longevity in an ironic sense.
3: Okay. Not even Pepe is as recognizable as Tweety is, which brings to mind the controversial aspect of your promotion for this list.
2: It's bad enough he makes Porky repeatedly go insane at the end of every appearance from the two together. But after hearing his case, I can also see why dogs aren't given their days at Termite Terrace very often.
Honorable Mention: Oh, no. Not that. Not the Censored Eleven. NOT THE CENSORED ELEVEN!
1: Where to start with bashing this guy? For one, even Foxy is a better Mickey ripoff than Buddy, thanks to Smile, Darn Ya Smile being in one of Foxy's cartoons. For two, we have better human characters from Fleischer Studios, meaning that if you want Buddy done right, just watch a Popeye or Betty Boop cartoon instead. For three, I actually thought Speedy Gonzales was going to take this spot,, until I realized that you said even fans hate him, and fans do not hate Speedy. For four, knowing how bad the Looney Tunes staff were treated by the executives on and off again for almost 95 years, it makes Buddy's lack of an impact hurt even worse for that era of the library.
I am convinced that Foxy is the reason why Walt Disney's company is so notoriously overprotective of their copyrights (and played a major role in shaping US law therein).
WB and Fleshier Studios were both notorious for slipping in Disney characters under the radar.
Plus Van Beuren with their own Mickey and Minnie ripoff.
I always found Pepe Le Pew funny with the joke being that he thinks that he is a charming ladies man. But in reality he is actually quite repulsive. It's funny because he doesn't realise this. The ignorance of many Looney Tunes characters is often what makes them entertaining. I never once looked at Pepe & thought to imitate his behaviour. I also can't really imagine how anyone would want to, given that none of his actions are portrayed in a positive light.
Yes, but I'm presuming that Pepe, with his own species (i.e. a fem SKUNK not a cat) probably IS a dashing, suave ladies man.
Except for one cartoon when he says, "I must find out what this 'pew' means!"...and looks it up in the dictionary.
Strangely, Pepe has been imitated enough times in entertainment ( still.) and in real life - the overconfident "ladies' man. Howard Wolowitz, among other characters in Big Bang Theory and other comedies. Heck there is even a bit of Pepe in Hawkeye Pierce from M*A*S*H. Sure he was a bit too one-note (though I think Howard was initially much worse) but he was, after all, a parody of all the overly romantic male leads in early cinema.
Fun Fact. Pepe Le Pew was originally an American married skunk named Henry.
It’s a shame Tweety is on the list as 2022 is apparently the year of him. Well, at least it was interesting to see him as the plot twist antagonist in Taz Wanted. :P
At least we’re still celebrating his 80th birthday
It sucks since Pepe has a legitimately cute design
I wish they could rework him instead of just getting rid of him
Those (extremely) rare moments where Penelope and Pepe reciprocate were my favorite
Yeah, it honestly seems wrong to just censor this behaviour because children do need to know this happens.
Honestly if they can make Johnny Bravo work I think Pepe can still work. To be fair I think the characters fine as long as kids understand that Pepe’s behavior is not to be replicated. And if kids could figure out that acting like Daffy is wrong then I think the same rings true for Pepe
I think retooling Pepe could be one possible way to bring him back. Moving on from the actions he's associated with, while making him more interesting and less of a one-note character.
In fact, New Looney Tunes already showed the potential in that. As he was retooled in that series as a James Bond parody.
Another one is by redeeming him and actually learning about consent, something A New Legacy almost going to do with him.
I've ALWAYS liked Pepe. Alot of WOKE/SJWs don't like him, forgetting that when he was created in 1945, Frenchmen were viewed as specifically stereotypical womanizing, Casanovas and the BIGGEST inside joke to why he's a Skunk is because there was a myth among American Women during WWII about "Frenchmen being Stanky and Smelly" its the SAME joke alluded to in Family Guy with its Rat Pack Song.
I don't particularly like Pepe but I too will agree it feels kinda odd that such an iconic character is never with the rest of the Looney tunes gang anymore in anything. And this is why I hate cancel culture. So often people just jump on the bandwagon of being upset about something that they don't even understand what they are upset about. if they just took five minutes to actually understand the context of these cartoons they shouldn't feel the need to hate on them.
At first I felt sorry for Charlie the dog because he got abandoned by one of his owners. But after hearing his motives for wanting a home I can understand why he got dumped in the first place!
I always saw him as a worse version of Pepe Le pew with boundary and personal space issues but after seeing almost all his cartoons he is Every definition of a parasite, an opportunist who will take everything for himself like (Roger Smith American Dad.) who will use everything underhanded to be the ultimate freeloader. He want's a master but in reality his borderline personality is more of a family annihilator. He will literally take whats rightfully yours and leave you to die. Not as lovable as the skunk either cause he can't claim foreign customs behavior for his actions. Its time for the final shot at a pro kill shelter. He finally gets it in Italy but just shows he has a very low IQ. Always thought since they brought the gophers to DD in the 24 and a 1/2 Century they would literally make him a vicious body invading alien like xenomorph who would fuse with the main 3 Daffy, Porky ,and Marvin with his stupid wants etc. being that what keeps him alive as it would kill the host the more it annoyed them on/in their body.Then would continue to absorb all life like the flood Akira entity with size and shape control.
which is why it’s funny lmao
I was genuinely surprised by his devious nature
On top of being one note, Pepe and even his actions were a lot funnier to the audience at the time as he was a combo caricature of different ex pat French actors, and the irony was unlike those actors who were reputable for having women fall in their arms, the joke was that it was the opposite for an equally charming skunk.
I have no issue with Pepe. As I grew older I would actually LISTEN to his lines (like Foghorn Leghorn) and I would find my adult female self busting a git over the game he tried to play! Yes, the setup was the same, but the writing was different every time...and I remember when the tables were turned! My favorite line " you are my peanut...I am your brittle"...I loved it!
He was Maurice Chevalier, they even used his face!
To be fair, the French actors didn't possess a stink that could stop a truck.
Pepe definitely needs a makeover he's well known so it's a shame he's just thrown aside ....
I feel like he could be reworked as part of a pair with someone who's a willing partner and instead work off the joke of his smell and that people get annoyed by couples being overly romantic in public and then being accidentally nuisances via those traits and various humorous misunderstandings
I always liked it whenever they gave Sylvester a less antagonistic role and a more normal pet cat role like in that episode where he is Porky’s pet and he saves him from crazy, murderous mice in the creepy motel they stayed at. Being one of my favorite looney tunes, I’ve always wanted Sylvester to have more heroic roles like that motel episode.
One of my least favorite one shot characters was that annoying little bird that kept trying to commit suicide by forcing a poor confused Sylvester to eat him. I hated that episode for being too disturbing and the fact children are allowed to watch it makes it even worse!
Nooo, that short was so frustrating! Sylvester was suffering and unable to prove what was going on, and was just getting tortured by those mice and scolded for trying to save Porky! He doesn't even get to redeem himself in the end if I remember right :(
Cartoons of that era had many adult themes, as they were geared towards that audience. Starting from the shorts played in movie theaters between movie changes.
Yeh, that episode was gold.
I freaking love Pepe Le Pew, he is my absolute favorite Looney tunes character I don't understand why people think he's the worst,❤️♥️❤️♥️❤️
The funnies part was the mangled French.
Love Pepè!
Fifty years ago, Pepé made me laugh. Today, I find him extremely cringe. I'm fluent in French, but I can still laugh at the faux-French. If they stuck with the stink jokes, the narcissism, and the ethnic stereotypes it would still be watchable, but throw in the sexual harassment and I draw the line.
I totally go full Pepe Le Pew when giving my bunny or dog cuddles. "You loves my kisses don't you?? Mwah mwah mwah"
Pepe Le Pew is one of my all-time favorite characters!!!! He taught me to never give up!😁 It's sad that he got caught up in the Me Too movement. 😢
The annoying thing about Pepé is that there can be several scenarios where Pepé's stench can be used for comedy, like with Space Jam where they use him to knock out the Monstars (while wearing gas masks). But they always pick the same one. And it's not even that funny!
Yeah like he's someone who's very well verse and etiquette but can't seem to realize he stinks.
@Ahmed malake You’re right. With Tom and Jerry, it’s easy to recycle them because they’re not “story focused”, they focus on slapstick. With Pepe, it feels like he can only be reduced as a failed romantic in someone else’s story, he has no traps or gadgets, so I can only imagine him as a egotistical beta male that tries to get anything he wants, but needs to hide the fact he’s a skunk. But that’s about all I can think of.
@Ahmed malake Flawed logic.
Sadly, he and Sniffles never made it to A New Legacy. I missed them. But hey, Granny got promoted to player position after being the only Tune Squad cheerleader and Gossamer got an opportunity to play.
i can confirm the first pepe tune i saw was more bland than a modern meme
it was “wild over you”, and i only remember feeling “meh” about it
if warner wants to bring back the skunk so badly (aside from a cameo tombstone with speedy), they should at least find a way to make pepe and his stench work
a 50s french man stereotype isn’t enough tbh
Buddy was actually real?! I thought he was made up for Animaniacs!
Am I the only person who thinks “Cookie” his girlfriend is a Betty Boop rip off ?
@@supermangarritano6636 She WAS.
people are really missing the joke with pepe
Penelope pussycat isn't trying to get away from him because he's being creepy
she's trying to get away from him because he's a skunk and smells terrible
and the fact that instead of clarifying the joke or reworking the character they just removed him really pisses me off
even more so when warner bros tried covering up the crimes of Ezra miller to save face .
Especially since Johnny Bravo still gets shorts and he’s the ultimate cartoon Chad. Besides If kids can figure out characters like Daffy or Bugs should not always be emulated then I think they can do the same for Pepe
@@johnmartin4119 pepe as a johnny bravo type character would actually be pretty funny
@@hurricanefury439 they didn't remove him his was in the loony tunes show and the new loony tunes and he also had a brief cameo in a episode on Animanics which came out in 2021
i love pepe la pew a lot because i know it's a joke
I think it could be looked at it that way although there was a Sylvester short that at end pepe appeared to woo him because he made himself into a skunk. It was definitely creepy there especially when the kissing kept going into the end credits
I Imagine Tweety watching this and Thinking: God i thought everyone liked me 😥😥
I honestly think Pussyfoot is severely underrated. Not only is she adorable, but she has a good bit of laughs in her episodes with the big brown dog. Their chemistry is amazing 🥺❤️❤️
Also the kitten trained by that lazy cat
35:14 OH NO NOT THIS RACIST CRAP AGIAAAAANN!!!!!
The Warner Bros liked Buddy and hated it when the studio CEO fired him, mostly because they liked hitting him with their mallets.
So sad. I love Pepe and he is actually one of my favorites. It is a shame he died the death of cancel culture and the Me Too movement. Pepe is not the villain looking for assault, but lonely looking for love. It’s a cartoon about a lovesick skunk… kinda like me as a teenager.
I don’t want to See A Real Skunk but I Love Pepe Le Pew
He’s Just a Cartoon Character
He's also a horrible French stereotype - horny, stinky, and thinks women are playing hard to get when they're actually repulsed. Don't be like him. Be better, dude.
I can see that. It's unfortunate he goes about it in ways that makes others uncomfortable; if he found his balance he'd probably be less lonely for sure.
I like Pepe too but come on lol. The joke was always that he’s a smelly French skunk who can’t take a hint. WB dropping him isn’t “the wokes” coming for your cartoons, it’s one of the countless bad decisions by a greedy ceo who wants things “safe” and profitable.
I agree with a lot of the listed characters here. Pepe is understandably a weird one for obvious reasons. I do however like Tweety in some manner though. Though I do see your point on Clampett’s and Freleng’s take on the character.
I’ll admit that Tweety’s placement on this list feels then most questionable to me. Since while there are times he might act spoiled or conceited, a majority of the time he’s just trying to avoid being eaten by Sylvester. His character works because he’s meant to be a foil to Sylvester, much like Bugs with Elmer Thudd or Road Runner with Wil E Cayote, where he constantly outsmarts his pursuer and his attempts to kill/eat him. This spot seems the most subjective imo, rather him coming from objectively bad cartoons like a majority of the rest of this list. Even with Pepe Le Pew, where while I still enjoy his character, I can see why it’d seem outdated or offensive for modern standards. And I do hope WB eventually bring him back and remove his more problematic elements to make him work better nowadays, instead of just axing him entirely.
agree, i mean i kinda found out that Le Pepe Pew's removed was kinda pointless as shown those f***ing meaningless cameos of adult movies like Pennywise or the one guy from The Clockwork Orangeat Space Jam 2
I agree about Tweety. He seems as much of a foil to Sylvester as Bugs Bunny is to Elmer Fudd and Road Runner with Wile E. Coyote. He tries multiple attempts to avoid being eaten.
I kind’ve feel the same way about Hippety Hopper. He doesn’t have much of a character, and most of his actions were in response to Sylvester trying to capture him.
His violence towards Sylvester is more warranted than Jerry’s over Tom given how Sylvester explicitly wants to eat him.
@@nostalgiamostalgia0319 however there's sometime that Sylvester's suffer karma was too far like he was somewhat sent to hell for wanting to eat Tweety despite he never manage to swallow him and suffered a lot of karma for that, and the fact note read by Dog Devil was from Tweety was the salt on the wound of Sylvester's fate
Something I don't see a lot of people talk about Pepe Le Pew is the reactions of Penelope Pussycat, sure the idea is that he reeks, but she always look so mortified and desperate to get away from him, which, if you've dealt with a harasser, that hits way too close to home, and the cartoon where Pepe pretends to shoot himself is easily the worst offender of that topic.
@Falxifer
I do have an idea how Pepe Le Pew can reboot it as a character. Make him a hopeless romantic. A charming Ladies man that gets rejected because of his smell.
@@alienboy1322 So basically, a skunk version of Johnny Bravo?
@@SpacialRend7
Uh .. yeah, I guess.
@@alienboy1322 That can work, it’d be better.
@@alienboy1322 I think making Pepe a romance novelist, with the stories he's writing being the main "woo-eeng" portion of the cartoon, would actually be pretty funny. Plus, they can make him as over-the-top as they want *and* send up the tremendously terrible tropes and hackneyed plot devices within the genre at the same time.
I'm surprised that the "Don't forget the gravy" dog wasn't in the honorable mentions.
Marc Antony; he demands redemption for defending Pussyfoot kitty from Claude Cat.
But yes "Chow Hound" is a bonafide classic up there with the best of them.
When you started talking about Porky's early days I thought for sure the entry would be for Gabby, Porky's goat best friend; a character so bland and generic that he never made the jump with Porky to the more-modern cartoons.
Hes kinda lame in New Looney Tunes aswell, Hes only really there in some shorts because they couldn’t use Jones’s Daffy so he pretty much fills that role.
I was expecting either Gabby or Beans.
* Golly gee, as a youngster I liked all WB cartoons including Gabby, Buddy & Bosco! ☺
Gabby is returning to the main Looney Tunes roster folks. The mobile game “World Of Mayhem” has been getting leaks of upcoming characters, and Gabby is one of them!
I heard Sylvester actually ate Tweety in the final episode of The Sylvester and Tweety Mysteries even though most of the episode was a dream.
That's exactly what it is, It really was a dream.
Oh yeah, I saw that episode not to long ago and it was quite a trip but in the good way in ending Sylvester and Tweety Mysteries since the tail end/this is the end didn't came out until December 2002 on CN
I kind of get the point about Tweety. Try comparing him to Bugs, Daffy, or Road Runner. They act like jerks plenty but they aren’t treating like an act, they just outsmart the antagonists so often. It can be argued that Tweety is resourceful but often it’s just Granny rescuing him or some mistake made by Sylvester that leads to him winning similar to Wile Coyote’s screwups. The difference is that it’s clearly conveyed that the Road Runner is outwitting Wile whereas in this Tweety is fooling some bystander, not the antagonist.
I think the problem with the W7 cartoons was that they seemed to be copying the Hanna Barbera cartoons by style and plots, and those tended to be boring for the most part, which is why I think the W7 failed, since they were somewhat ripoffs
The reason for tweety being here doesn’t really work since in all the cartoons he’s minding his own business till some cat or something tries to eat him, all he’s doing is fighting back and seeking protection
Yeah, he’s fine. He’s a foil for SYLVESTER to be entertaining
Its more the personality that got him so high than his jokes
What he's doing wasn't the problem, it was how he's doing it. Matt disliked him because he just found him smug and annoying.
Counterpoint: Tweety tried to murder Eddie Valiant.
@@retroinspect yep
Foghorn leghorn is seriously underrated
The original model, Senator Claghprn, was so hilarious that sometimes he broke up whatever straight man tried to interview him. "That's a joke son , you missed it."
Totally agree!
I never understood the controversy behind Pepe Le Pew. Like, yeah he's a creep who doesn't respect women...is that not the whole point of his character? Isn't he meant to be an antagonist who constantly loses? The cartoons make it pretty clear his behavior is not okay. How does he promote sexual harassment anymore than, say, Marvin the Martian promotes genocide?
Conversely, the Kanker Sisters from Ed, Edd n Eddy are allowed despite the fact that they ALWAYS succeed in sexually harassing the Eds.
Because as Animat said, that's all he does! There's no variety in his shorts!
@@joelmole3157 I really don't understand that. Pepe is put down for being repetitive, but Wile E Coyote and the Roadrunner don't?
@@Tom-vg6td I think it’s because Wile E. and the Roadrunner’s shorts are relatively tame by comparison, featuring simple hijinks and physical comedy. They’re less likely to be grating on a longtime viewer than Pepe’s uncomfortably constant sexual harassment.
@@Tom-vg6td Wile E. Coyote gets more slapstick violence his way. The only slapstick Pepe gets is a couple cat scratches from the cat trying to get away.
@@williamsapong81 I can see that as a way. But should we look at it as a more consistent perspective? Like I never looked too deep into Looney Tunes since you know, goofy cartoon animals. But if I dived into one character like Pepe, I would usually look into others. Like of course we all laugh at Wile or Sylvester getting crushed by anvils, but if we look into it deeper, we're laughing at some guys going through pain and torment just to get something to eat.
It'd be neat to see someone cover cultural things that were brought to us by Looney Tunes - like how people use 'Nimrod' to mean 'Stupid" when Bugs used to call Fudd that, though it was a reference to a mythical hunter in those days and didn't gain the 'stupid' meaning until Bugs used it, or how the whole stereotype of rabbits loving carrots can ALSO be laid at Bugs' feet. Things that are just part of everyday life that no one thinks about, but that came from these cartoons!
Or like Looney Toons are responsible for so many of us being exposed to classical and opera music.
What an ultra maroon......
Or how Gym Jordan learned to speak from Porky the 🐽 pig!
After including Porky from the earlier era, I'm honesty surprised you didn't put Daffy from the Depatie Freleng Enterprises and Seven Arts.
Right? It's Daffy at his all time worst...
It's bad enough Jones removed his redeeming qaulities to make him Bug's polar opposite ("Bugs is the ideal we strive for, but Daffy's what we're stuck as." Okay, but does he have to be a total a-hole and sociopath?), but W7 era made him even worse...
I mean he put the entire 7 arts Era on here so I think it safe to say he knows this
Well there were a few times when daffy wasn’t at his worst like corn on the cop where he and porky try to arrested a criminal that they mistake for granny “a taste of catnip” where he has a therapy session and tell how he is afraid of speedy Gonzales “fiesta fasco” were he realises it is his birthday and skyscraper caper were he and speedy actually helped each and in quacker tracker were he tries to attack speedy to get credit in the hunters club
Now this is an unpopular opinion be I actually like the depatie frelang/seven arts era of shorts
Actually he did, and Yes I remember. The 60s Looney Tunes were at their LOWEST Point.
@@Tornado1994 Heck, that's part of what closed down Termite Terrance... ☹
The appeal of cartoons featuring Tweety Bird don't necessarily have to come from Tweety himself, but more so from watching Sylvester's many misfourtunes in trying to capture him. Even still, I think Tweety's more "smug" aspects were mostly in his older appearances, while most of his later appearances play him up more as an innocent bystander, either trying to seek protection from those around him (E.G.: Granny, Hector, etc.), or just spectating while Sylvester futilely tries to even reach him. Even still, considering what Tweety has to put up with on a regular basis, can you really blame him for being smug?
I agree with your #1 pick, Buddy is definitely the worst Looney Tune as well as the most forgettable. He definitely was so shallow that even the animators were sick and tired of him and with his departure we would get the Looney Tunes we know and love starting with Porky Pig, then Daffy Duck, then Bugs Bunny, then Sylvester and Tweety and Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner!
It’s no wonder in Animaniacs they poke fun of his blandness and made him a villain.
@@hunterolaughlin Yeah and honestly he would have made a better villain than Peter Pan in the Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers movie.
@@diggerfan9319 Honestly, I’d rather they go with a grown up Caillou or Peppa Pig. I think the concept of Buddy as a villain and all the jokes that come with it has already been done by Animaniacs that I don’t think it needs repeating.
He's about as deep as a Frisbee.
I saw his name and immediately I said "who?". That's how forgettable he is.
I'd say the problem with Tweety was made even worse in Sylvester and Tweety Mysteries. The amount of punishment and abuse Sylverster got in that show was just hard to watch, even as a kid.
I feel like Tweety is the main reason why Tom and Jerry fans started siding with Tom.
For some reason unexplained more shorts would come out where Jerry would straight up bully Tom with no reason, like in some Tom and Jerry Tales episodes. I know it sounds off to be picky with a slight change in a basic formula, but some of my favorite of the shorts involved Tom using Jerry as a tool to get whatever he wants just for Jerry to break free and fight back. I guess I like the “Tom started it” shorts because of the more likable execution of the dynamic.
Yea I remember relishing the very few and far between instances when Jerry would get some of his own medicine . Def a Tom fan same for Sylvester to a lesser degree .
Pepe never offended me cuz cartoon characters are supposed to be over the top especially with emotions / personality traits. That's literally the point . he's a reminder of what NOT to do
Just like Elvira and honestly alot of toons are just some personality traits exaggerated to an annoying extent
You mean Elmyra(as in from Tiny Tunes)? Because you put the mental image of Elvira Mistress of the Dark there for a second 😂(although I think Elmyra might be called Elvira in Mexico)
@@SiRenfield yes haha realizing now my phone autocorrected it haha
@@kamichan127 Ah yes it happens to best of us
Auto Correct is a bitch
"he's a reminder of what NOT to do"
That only works when the characters get punished.
It's why Daffy always gets shot.
Being offensive can be a subjective thing, even forgivable at times, but being aggressively non-offensive can be universally disliked.
wow, that's such a great comment
Reminds me of the episode of South Park that took place in the future. The comedian 's jokes aren't jokes at all, because In the future one can only say positive things about other people
As for Claude, the reason why Sylvester wasn’t used is because Sylvester was really freleng’s character, and Jones created Claude.
And because Jones preferred to portray Sylvester as a ‘Yellow-bellied Cowardly Scaredy-cat’.
I always kind of liked Claude cat. I loved how the puppy always surprised and scared him
Nah bro Rockstar Games created Claude, he's "Anywhere City's" criminal for hire in GTA 2
But Jones HAS used Sylvester in his cartoons, for example in 1948's "Scaredy Cat" (where he was first given the name Sylvester).
Plus Robert McKimson and Arthur Davis used Sylvester as well so he wasn't a Friz Freleng exclusive character. Sure you can argue Clampett's one off appearance but while the voice is the same, it's not quite the same character design wise.
At least Foxy got himself a redemption arc in Tiny Toons in the Two Tone episode. Same can't be said about Buddy, when the successor cartoon to Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, dedicated a short to trashing him.
God, that black character made me cringe like hell. Makes me so glad that racism is a big no-no in entertainment nowadays. Can't imagine how furious black audiences must've been back then, especially with the Censored Eleven.
Poor Stephen Fetchit must be rolling in his grave because of the use of him as a reference to the black hunter in the short.
I'm Black and I've been told this: "The Censored 11's Controversy is heavily overblown. Most of the Cartoons in the Blacklist are Benign and Stupid. ONLY the last Two Tex Avery Cartoons he produced before leaving WB for good are remotely racially insensitive."
As a white man, am I allowed to be 'offended' by Elmer Fudd?
I remember sitting in the movie theater in the late 80s (I think). The theaters for a brief time showed some of the classic Looney Tunes cartoons, One time the Looney Tunes music started playing and the audience got real excited...until they saw it was a Pepe Le Pew cartoon. The excitement was soon followed by a collective moan.
People who hated Pepe are the reason why he's no longer with us
I curse all of you Pepe haters
Also I just like to mention that there are times where Penelope the cat does love Pepe
There's even a Valentine's Day phone commercial where they text each other
Considering Tweety was one of the most famous looney tunes characters. I never expected him to be a bad one, and I can understand why
I liked Pepe Le Pew. His character is "unaware" of reality, missing everything obvious. It's why his cartoons are funny, because he is so blind by what he believes is love that he is unable to see the obvious signs. Not only that, but it's made clear that when his smell and stripe are gone, the cat is suddenly in love with him too. So it's not him that she's rejecting, it's the smell and his being a skunk, while his passion for her is in believing she's a skunk. When the paint stripe is gone, he shows no interest in her. If she had a stripe and he didn't... then the cartoons he's in would turn into adult rated material.
But there was one exception to that rule - he did chase her despite the paint falling off in Past Perfumance (he just painted black over his white skunk stripes to try and visually pass for a black cat)...
@@mrconfusion87 Shoo, go away! 🤣
Totally oblivious to reality, just like Johnny Bravo.
Personally knowing someone with a pretty bad stutter really puts the old porky thing in perspective, its no joke. I have nothing but respect for anyone who has trouble just getting out words because of a stutter in everyday situations
Great point!!!🙏👍🤔
And this guys weakness turned the pig into a pop icon that will be known for years…
We all want to be Bugs Bunny, but we all know we are really Daffy Duck.
That is actually incredibly deep. May I quote you?
I think Chuck Jones did a similar quote.
I remember hating Tweety as a kid for the same reason I hated Jerry.
Pepe Le Pew was so bad that he was cancelled by stupid people and that he was cut out of Space Jam 2 (while The Droogs from A Clockwork Orange appear in the film)
Why? Why do you hate Jerry with Tweety I at least get but Jerry! Have you completely forgotten that Tom is always the one or at least usually is the one that starts the fucking chases!
@@majorfanboy2005 I thought he was talking about Jerry from Rick and Morty
I've ALWAYS liked Pepe. Alot of WOKE/SJWs don't like him, forgetting that when he was created in 1945, Frenchmen were viewed as specifically stereotypical womanizing, Casanovas and the BIGGEST inside joke to why he's a Skunk is because there was a myth among American Women during WWII about "Frenchmen being Stanky and Smelly" its the SAME joke alluded to in Family Guy with its Rat Pack Song.
I've ALWAYS hated Tweety. Think of Bishop of Juice(1992) as an Anthropomorphic Canary.
@@Tornado1994 I only liked Tweety in the Tale of Two Kitties Cartoon. A much better design than the overly cutesy one.
Also the "PUT OUT THOSE LIGHTS!" at the end.
@@TUM_Toons I hate that Cartoon. Too Damn Mean Spirited.
God I hated Tweety
As for Buddy, I really thought he was just a random character created for the Warner Trio to beat on because he was a prime example of campy classic cartoons
Me too!! Wanted Sylvester to get him everytime😆
@@tracyjacoby2382 🤡
Foxy (the Mickey Clone) gives off such uncanny vibes
Is like I'm watching footage from some alternate universe.
You know, there is a major major point that I think Animat missed.
It's not about any one particular character, it's about almost ALL of them.
Nearly all of their personalities are based on one dimensional stereotypes, especially ethnic ones.
Pepe LePew was obviously French, Speedy Gonzalez was Hispanic, Foghorn Leghorn was Southern, Yosemite Sam was Texan, Bugs had a New York accent, while Daffy, Sylvester, Porky and Elmer Fudd were all given speech impediments and were often the dumb comedic foil.
Only the ones that didn't talk, like Wylie Coyote and Road Runner, didn't rely on a stereotype for their personality, relying instead on visual gags.
I'm not complaining about it, though I do believe that nobody could make an animated character that way today without some backlash.
There are complaints about Apu of "The Simpsons". Sheesh, these are cartons meant to be amusing, not dramas!
Nobody can do any comedy today without backlash. Everybody is offended by everything!
@@Geezer-yf8hv
It's not anything new. Back in Medieval times, the Court Jester was meant to make fun of the noble lords and ladies for the king's amusement. But if the nobles or the king got too offended by the joke, that Jester basically got their head cut off.
Comedy is way tougher to pull off than people realize.
Wile E. Coyote actually did talk when he interacted with Bugs
People are getting way too woke.
Buddy being one of the Looney Tunes is a bit of a misnomer because….he ain’t Looney.
He is merely a Tune.
A lousy tune
@@looneyblue4046 yup
Not a tune even, but a one note.
Admirably concise. 😁
@@Mafon2 Admirably appended. 😆
After watching this video, I finally understand why Sniffles' cameo in Space Jam was so funny to me.
No one mentions that Sniffles looks like Fievel.
25:33 LMFAO the look on sylvester’s face. And I’m glad I’m not the only one who got uncomfortable by tweety
I honestly can’t hate any of these characters. At best, they’re a missed opportunity. At worst, they’re “meh”
Perfect comment.
I don’t hate any Looney Tunes characters, even though Charlie Dog gets on my nerves.
I first learned about Buddy from that one Animaniacs episode that has him as the villain. Never knew he was an actual character they were egging on.
phrasal verb
egged on; egging on; eggs on. : to urge or encourage (someone) to do something that is usually foolish or dangerous. He continued to take off his clothes while the crowd egged him on.
Me too.
I never even knew of Buddy. And I have been a WB fan since I was a kid.
Watched Buddy and Cookie Shorts on Nick at Nite during 1988-89. They were BLAND and Boring.
If Buddy was reworked as a Charlie Brown-type character, I think that could help him.
Like, have him suffer lots of pain and abuse in a short, but he tries to make the best of it. However if he suffers too much, then let him go Coo-Coo Looney Crazy with anger.
Few thoughts:
1) I never minded Claude Cat or Charlie Dog and actually kind of liked them from time to time. Claude was a jerk that continuously got what was coming to him, and Charlie was just downright silly enough to make him enjoyable.
2) Tweety would be more enjoyable if the spotlight was on Sylvester a bit more often. I've said it on a few TH-cam comment sections and I'll say it again: Sylvester is the single most underrated cartoon character in the history of animation. Versatile, well acted/animated in pretty much everything he's ever been in and funny as fuck. And yet, he's most famous for being second fiddle to a character that doesn't really do much of anything except be cute and crack one-liners.
3) I don't know why I had it ever, but at one point, but my house had that Censored Eleven cartoon on a dime-a-dozen VHS collection of public domain shorts when I was growing up. I'm forever trying to understand how it got released onto home media at any point in time. It was the only one of the Eleven that I ever saw (thank God), but I can't help but ask if that was the one that slipped, what made it so special?
That's *exactly* how I saw that same cartoon. Even as a little kid, something about it made me suuuuper uncomfortable, and in retrospect, just... wooooow.
Sylvester is also the single most punished cartoon character in the history of animation.
It was in the public domain, so some companies that release public domain cartoons on VHS at the time likely didn't care that it was racist. Parents Approved Video was especially infamous for releasing several banned cartoons without any sort of censorship of any kind.
I see I'm not the only person to have ended up with a VHS including one of the Censored Eleven. I didn't give it much thought beyond how the hunter is a dime store Elmer Fudd. And a lot of the racist stereotyping is specific to America and did not translate, so he was a lot less offensive. I was a lot more perturbed by the Cobweb Hotel, which was legitimately scary.
1a: I think maybe if the Claude cartoons didn't have the narrative set up that he's essentially being slated for replacement in the first place, he'd've turned out not to be such a jerk. But I can see where he's coming from. Sometimes, in families when a second kid comes along, the oldest starts getting treated poorly or neglected, or in some cases, even abused. Swap this situation out with pets, and you get Claude feeling as if this newcomer is here to replace him, because of the humans' indifference or hostility to him and over-favoring of the new pet. We all know that this isn't how you're supposed to introduce a new pet to an old one. Bad owners are to blame for his actions.
1b: Charlie would be interesting to see some character growth with. Like, he starts off as the jerk we know and hate, but maybe actually bonds with his new owner and works out more of a proper compromise/cooperation scenario. Perhaps he's not really all that bad, but just kinda jaded...
2: Tweety is basically a smaller, less ugly, not as fast Road Runner. Road Runner has enough hate that the band The Great Divide created a song in praise of Wile E Coyote, where they trash the bird and encourage the coyote. It's basically the same dynamic, except that Tweety has someone else do all the work for him, which really cheapens his character. And really... There have been episodes where Sylvester tries to not antagonize Tweety and Tweety just eggs him on until he snaps and goes back to the typical dynamic. In those eplisides, Tweety is clearly the badguy.
3: Depends on where you live. Combinded with some gaps in regulation, some areas in the US are still very racist places. Until around 1985 or so, our town had a sign tacked onto the "welcome to [town name]" sign that warned black people to stay out of town. I'm native american and got a lot of flack for it growing up. Less so after I had to defend myself from a bully and beat the snot out of him in gym class. But still, there's a some people in town with strong racist views. One of the reasons I'm more comfortable having my house outside of city limits.
I always thought I was alone in hating tweety. Good to know I’m not the only one who hates that overly cutsy psychopath