EXCLUSIVE! Michelin Pilot Sport 5 vs Goodyear, Bridgestone, Continental, Hankook, Yokohama & More!
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- / tyre_reviews . The Michelin Pilot Sport 5 is new to market, but so is its main rival, the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 6!
To find out which of these new ultra high performance tires are best, I use a VW Golf GTI wearing 225/45 R17 tires and test the dry, wet, comfort, noise and rolling resistance of nine sets of performance tires, to see if the new PS5 or Asym 6 can retain their crowns, or whether another brand of tire is best.
In the tire test we have nine of the top uhp tires on the market.
Bridgestone Turanza T005
Continental PremiumContact 6
Giti GitiSport S2
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 6
Hankook Ventus S1 Evo 3
Michelin Pilot Sport 5
Rotalla S Race SU01
Semperit Speed Life 3
Yokohama Advan Sport V105
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:24 Tires on Test
1:51 Dry Handling
8:20 Dry Braking
8:28 Wet Handling
13:52 Wet Braking and Aquaplaning
14:15 Noise, Comfort and Rolling Resistance
15:22 Overall RESULTS - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Good review. Would be interesting to see the PS5 Vs. PS4S if not already in the works?
Also - how’s that holy trinity RE71RS, A052 and Cup2 Connect test going? Let’s see the track kings
What track are you on?
hi mate, do you know which is the best street tyre for traction in 25-30Celsius? I have an FWD daily with around 260-270hp.... :/ :D and with the pirelli p zero its absolutely junk.... :S if i want a traction it needs some hardcore burnout ...but its deadly for the wearing, and i dont want to foolin with burnouts just because for traction :S
Just went and fitted a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 6 because of your excellent reviews 🙂
Hi, I wanna buy tyres for my crossover and have three options:
Nexen nfera Supreme(N5000 Platinum) ($175),
Nankang SP-9 Cross-Sport ($115), and
Giti Sport S2 Suv ($125).
I can’t decide which one should I go with, as comfort and smooth driving is the number one priority for me.
This channel is the gold standard when it comes to tyre testing & reviews. Nobody else even comes close.
Thank you!
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@@YHsTig I third that.
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These tyre tests are incredibly detailed and appreciated. Thank you!
Botz
Glad you like them!
Yes, it’s tireporn 🤪😍
Conquer driving is a sick channel. I found it after I passed but watch him anyways cos yt
@@tyrereviews so I love your videos just wanted to say I just bought Bridgestone potenza re980+ and can’t believe the difference from grand touring tires from EP422. On a Chrysler 200 2015.
I went from Dunlop Sport Maxx rt2 225/45/17 to the new Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 6 two weeks ago and this tire is fenomenal in the wet and even better in the dry, so well balanced, loads of grip in the corners and great feedback from the road!
EDIT: 7 months later after summer season ended, my conclusion is that this tire is amazing, all around very good performer, very linear and predictable slippage in the corners and performance in the wet is ridiculous!
10/10 would reccommend to anyone!
Great to hear! Get a review on www.tyrereviews.com sometime :D
The dunlop sport maxx is actually a very impressive tire too
Great to hear
Which car mate ?
i've had them too in 245/40/18, and just as you, was very impressed with them. but only for about 6 months or so, afterwards they feel a hell of a lot less grippy in dry, still good in wet, but does lose its qualities very quickly. fwd 270hp/400nm by the way.
how many seasons did you drive to dunlop? how many km?
This is the one channel that could get away with making longer videos! I love these videos and you are actually making tire reviews more interesting than car reviews on TH-cam!
Incredible test as usual mate, so much detail, so much honesty, so much Jonathan Benson 🥰👊
I think I have a good idea what your favourite is. 🤓
@iNSTAGiB I wouldn't know without testing. Probably similar.
Also the Goodyear is usually cheaper than the Michelin, another bonus point for the F1 team
Yes, in 225/45/17 for me it's 20€ per tire
Yup I just paid 68 per corner for AS5 a few weeks ago in 225 45 17! Bargain compared to ps4/ps5
@@DaveSpecC good price, I can flex with 304€ for AS6 :))
Cheaper by a lot! Although I'm looking at older models, the Goodyear's are $120 a piece! Cheaper than the Michelins in my size. Mainly because they're being clearanced. But still, if you could have the Goodyear F1s for almost $500 a set cheaper than the Michelin sports, that's a no-brainer.
I've been waiting for this review! Great information 👊
Heyyy Ashley. What tyres do you have on your golf. Treat the learners with sporty tyres.
Mate you continue to provide thorough tyre reviews without any garbage filler. Thank you much!
Its nice to find a review which tells exaclty how a tire performs, also nice finding someone finally commenting the negatives of the Michelin PS. I was skeptical, now I am sure about the Yokohamas. Thank you very much for this review, very on point, no bullshit, only real feelings and driving data. Thanks!
The level of detail and commitment to objective testing is really appreciated, great work. Disappointed they haven't sharpened the PS5 as that was my main complaint going from the PS3 to the PS4, but I felt it was probably the better tyre all round. If that's the sacrifice they've made to allow it to be the fantastic all rounder it is, then I'll take it. Love being able to drive in the wet like it's dry!
This is the test I have been waiting for, a comparison between a touring and UHP and you didn't disappoint. Provided all the information I could possibly need. Thanks very much
Love the amount of detail in these tests, I actually just not long put Assymetric 5s on my Spec C after watching your older comparison video, it has totally transformed the car! Used to light the rears up in 3rd on corner exit in wet, now it won't even light up 1st gear! So cheers for that 👌
really?
Thanks for testing the Yokohama Advan Sport V105, I have been running this tyre for years and absolutely love it on track days. Glad to see it is still at the top for dry handling and great to know the PS5 is not my tyre. The Continental looks like a great succesor to my V105's though!
Thanks for great timing of this review. Just ordered a set of Goodyear Eagle F1s off the back of this video 👍
Let me know how you find them!
Fantastic detail review of this UHP tyre test. It’s quite surreal that the tyres at the top of the table are very close, just minor differences. Great ‘win’ for the GoodYear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 6. I have the 5 and really like it’s performance on my mk7.5 GTi.
Great test once more! It's good to see that your videos are finally getting dozens of thousands of views in first few days! Very well deserved!
Thanks for adding the Yokos in the mix! I’m one of those that have been asking. As always, excellent review 👏🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
Yay! Finally a Yokohama tires review! Thank you for reviewing them! I love them on my cars.
My best tyre review channel so far. Keep up the good work!
This is what i was waiting for, 17'' UHP test and with Advan V105. Thank you, thank you, that is gold.
You're welcome!
As other comments have said and I have before, the level of effort, production quality, and outright professionalism in these tests is second to none. The honest opinions are invaluable and its rare to find these days. I've always thought the ps4 was great but as you have always said, it's numb which is sad to hear the 5 is the same. It's a shame you don't get more exposure for the effort put in, you deserve so much better
Thank you :)
I'd have to agree the PS4 is quite a numb feeling tyre - but it makes up for it in other areas, particularly in the wet - and I live in a very wet climate - so for me it's an excellent road tyre - and now the PS5 has been released, the PS4 is great value here as they run out stock. Yokohama burnt me a number of years ago when I bought a set after they had transferred production from Japan to Malaysia, and the quality tanked to the levels of budget tyre brands - at least for the set I bought. I guess they have sorted that out now, or perhaps Europe get tyres from another manufacturing location.
@@Beer_Dad1975 It's the best performing wet tyre I've driven, and for that alone it's arguably the best road tyre although haven't had a chance at the ps5 yet. I just wish they weren't so numb to feel, although I have cup 2s on my weekender so it probs worsens the effect
@@lepermessiyah5823 PS4S's fix the problem of numbness - at least to my feel - of course they are quite a step up in price - they haven't been available in 245/40 R18's until recently here, so this is my first set. I've never tried the Cup 2 but I imagine it's a totally different level, and no doubt exaggerated further by the type of car you'd fit such a tyre to.
@@Beer_Dad1975 yeah 4s sizes are limited and availability, especially in Australia, is slim. And yes, going from a daily runaround to the weekender is definitely a step up lol
Hello! Incredible videos! One question: which feels sportier/funnier between the Asymmetric 6 and the Pilot Sport 4S ? Thank you very much!
Very Good question 👍
Direct comparison would be great
I‘d expect not much difference inbetween both as Asym6 is more sporty as PS4/PS5 and also PS4S is more sporty as PS4/5
we definitely would to know !!!
@@thibautanglade3804 are your tire sizes both available as Asym6 and PS4S ?
Thank you for the review. This is exactly the video that many car owners seek when they struggle to pick the most suitable tires for their cars.
Another great review. Thanks for taking the time and making the effort to do these reviews to keep the rest of us informed.
Thank you Jonathan for another detailed review 🙏🏻 I have been waiting for this test to help me decide which tyres to buy. And also thank you for including Yokohama V105 in this test as it is my old summer tyre I need to replace 🙏🏻 (good benchmark for me) You always give planty of information that other test simply do not provide. As usual this test was very helpful for making a final decision prior purchase. Keep up the good work ✌🏻
Glad you enjoyed!
The Yokohama comes standard on my MX-5 (if I had 16" wheels, Mazda's preferred size for this car), I'm so happy you tested it. In that car, it's a lot of fun. Would be cool if you will test the V107 you mentioned. You can't even buy the V105 in the US anymore [on tirerack] in small sizes.
Just got the Hankook Evos on today, very smooth tyre. Thanks for the review
Excellent review as always. Great and precise work!
Thanks for the example of tire manufacturers not always sending the tires you'd hoped for. Would've loved to see the Advan Apex and Sportcontact 7 in this test
I got no problems with dual winners... different tires for different needs. The strength of your reviews has never been just the rankings, but the process and evaluation of each entry. Helps the buyer understand the tires and what they're buying into.
Boy, did the Goodyear come ever so close to owning the title solely, had it not been the poor hydroplaning performance. I was this close to putting it on the shipping list for the next set on my E46 coupé, only that I live in Vancouver, Canada, where the spring/fall sessions are WET, WET, WET. Otherwise, its sporty driving focus fits the car's character to a tee.
Michelin has always been about balance in all traits, while not necessarily acing each. Call it a broad-focus approach that gives the users the biggest envelope in various conditions (still loving my AS3s).
Kudos to another splendid test video. These take tons of work. 💯
The very best channel and website for tyre tests and reviews. User reviews are of immense value, which means I'm happy to leave reviews myself. Thank you Jonathan! Nick
Much appreciated!
Waited for this review! Just bought the Pilot Sport 5's - Thank you!
Another amazing review. Your work is brillant. Thank you very much Jonathan !
It would be nice to have a test best UHP vs best touring tyres.
We kinda did with the T005 in this lol
@@tyrereviews I know but with a lot more ! But the UHP are still my test 😅.
Once again a great video. Keep up the good work!
I am only missing the Conti Sportcontact 7; maybe you can review it next time
Not available in 17”
@@vollcare4076 Hi mate. Have you decided what you're getting for your M140i yet re summer tyres?!
PS5 what a let down!
Such a shame the CSC7 is 19's and above or I'd likely get that next!
For my brilliant Asymmetric 5's in 18's replacement in the future, it will likely be the A6. I only wish they'd improved on aquaplaning, but once tyres have worn down a few mm's the results could be totally different anyhow. It's often the highest initial tread depth that fares best to start with.
When rain is deep enough that aquaplaning is likely I'm not going to be doing high speeds anyhow!
@@James-RJM if PS4S or SC7 would be available in 18” OEM sizes I would take one of these two.
I fell in love with the PS5 tyre wall design and was hoping that PS5 would be step up in handling and steering feedback.
As it’s not according to first tests I’ll go for Asym6 this summer
F1SS is also an option, but most of the times the 245/35 18 is nowhere on stock
Awesome reviews and level of detail. Never underestimate the importance of the onl thing which keeps you in contact with the road. Gonna fit these Michelin Pilot Sport 5s to my Tuscan S now based on this.
I had the Continentals on my sportscar and they always went a one direction. Jumped to Good Year and the response, the feeling , the straight running is so much better. They are dancing and singing in the curves at 160 kph.... I love them !!!
What i love about michelins is that they genuinely highlight their brand and tire on the outside,, a small detail but very nice one
Agreed, my friend.
Looks really beautiful and sporty on the outside.
I don't get why goodyear insist on having such an ugly sidewall.
@@zondaboy6493 exactly, when paying high prices for the best its a bit satisfying that people can see it,, goodyear looks way too normal
hello! i follow all of your tests and you do a tremendous job for all of us! I have one question, can you please tell me about the cabin noise of the tyres or maybe you can implement this test in your further reviews? I'm looking forward to buy a new pair of tyres, I'm more interested in comfort and quieteness but i also like some spirited driving sometines. I'm into asymetric 6, pilot sport 5 and turanza t005. I see that turanza is the most confortable of the 3, but how about the in cabin noise? Which of the 3 do you think is the quietest inside on the golf? Thank you and very good job!!
take the GOODYEAR
Excellent review, very well balanced - taking into account all factors of a tyre, not just how fast it can go round a track.
Nice that you included weights this time, thanks!
Thank you so much for the things you do! The absolute best tests on the market! So sad that we didn't get the FK520 since i just bought those :-) hope we'll see those in the near future! Would be nice to see the Advant sport V107, Potenza Sport and the FK520's !
How do you rate Fk520 with others from this category?
@@henriquef1639 i don't do any track attacks, but by far it's the most comfortable tyre i've ever had. I have the 235/45/18 ones, the tread depth is 7,5mm and i only drove around 100km. Before that i had the Vredestein Ultrac Vorti, they were less comfortable but definetly more sharper than the FK520's.
@@alexest2665 I had FK510 before and these were very good, especially in the wet. I definitely will buy the new 520 as soon as I need new tires
@@kooskoos1814 luckily for me my PowerProof tires were dead and the FK520 just came out. They are even manufactured on 02-22 :D Before buying the PowerProof Nokian tires i was considering the Fk510, but the model seemed a bit outdated, so i bought the recently released PowerProof. Also, the Fk520's rim protection is just insane. Probably the best one on the market. Wanted to write a review on tyresreview but i think it's a bit early
@@alexest2665 how do they compare to the Nokians ?
Got the Asymmetric 6 for my Miata, and so far I'm really happy with it. Great corner stability, control and grip.
Which tyres did you had before on the MX5 ?
@@vollcare4076 OEM Bridgestone Potenzas, the Goodyears feel much better
Do they give you confidence in the wet and cold (1-10c)?
oooo which potenza? Also get a review on www.tyrereviews.com :)
@@pigeonpoo1823 Haven't tested them in the wet, but they work great on dry roads at 5°C
Great video again. Thanks. :-)
Is there a chance that the Pirelli Powergy is in a future test? Could it be better than the Bridgestone T005 ?
@Tyre Reviews great test as always! Question if I may: as new tyre for my 300hp FWD hot hatch, I was considering the Goodyear Eagle SuperSport but the Asy6 seems the better choice, especially in view of performance in the wet?! (The Conti SC7 is not available in right size)
I got the sportcontact 7 for my 125d after watching your last review. I am very impressed they perform great and I havent discovered a weak point.
19“ ?
@@vollcare4076 yep 225 35 19
Glad you like them! Get a review on www.tyrereviews.com
If you want a Continental PC6 with rim protector you need to choose the “FR” variant. Awesome test!
It still has very poor rim protection compared to Michelin or Goodyear. Running Continentals (or Hankooks) can become quite costly. Don't ask me how I know . . . .
Well done, thank you! I would love to see the actual rolling resistance numbers so we can compare them across all categories so I can decide if the family car can use a UHP tire or if I have to go with a different tire with a far superior rolling resistance number. Thank you!
Another thorough and excellent review. Thank you 🙏
Great as always. Please try to get hold of FK520!
I tried :(
Goodyear sounds like the go for me. Can't wait to try them one day
Let me know how you find them when you do!
I've had the Turanza T005's and I never disliked a tyre that much. They felt like driving on pillows. They are indeed very soft and made driving in a straight line a wobbly experience. You could see the car moving over the tyres when just pushing a bit against the side of the car standing next to it. Maybe they were a total mismatch for my car and/or my taste of driving but I changed them after one year driving for GoodYears Asymm 5's and it just felt like driving a new car. The Asymm 6 tyres will certainly get my attention when my current asymm 5's are worn. Great video again, thanks!
Great video. Spot on decision increasing the weighting of rolling resistance for the conclusion.
Another great review Jonathan. Especially interesting for me as about to change the 225/40R18 Turanza T005s on my M135i (F40) for something more sporty. I had been debating between PS4 OEs and PS5s, but finally went for PZ4OEs after watching a previous UHP summer tyre review of yours before this review came out, on the assumption the PS5s would be an evolution of the PS4s and not be as sporty as the PZ4s, which will be fitted tomorrow, so can't wait to see how they perform.
PS Can't believe the mpg I could get from the T005s if I took it easy. Sure I will lose that with the PZ4s.
Ooo let me know how you find the Pz4!
@@tyrereviews PZ4 OE's handling is great in the dry. No wet weather yet, so no chance to try them. As expected, fuel consumption not as good as the T005s but not too bad, and seem pretty quiet. Sidewalls on the PZ4s actually look quite cool. ☺️
Yet another awesome tyre review video Jonathan! Thanks!
I presume these tyres were all tested when they were new and with full 100% thread depths?
If so, it would be great if you could somehow re-test all of these some time down the road when they have worn down quite a bit. Maybe at thread depths of 80% and 50-60% etc?
That's probably quite a bit of work, but it would be really interesting to see how they compare at different stages of the life of the tyre and whether they still can maintain their characteristics over time.
I am really interested in how consistent these tyres will be :) Thanks again!
I would LOVE to do that sort of test, however the current price for FAIR wear testing is around 1 euro per set per KM.
You'd need to do around 15,000km.
That's 135,000 euros to do worn testing properly...
@@tyrereviews You could shorten that procedure with the same method as the Renault 5 Cup drivers did in the old days: Shave the tyres - there are machines that can do that for you. Probably they are also hidden in some small barns near the Michelin and Goodyear test tracks. 😁
@@Fastvoice sadly shaving the tires doesn't offer the same results as real world wear due to lack of heat cycles etc.
@@tire_reviews Maybe the manufacturers have some special procedures to speed up that process.
@@Fastvoice sadly not, no one can get machine to corrolate with road properly. Some claim they're close but without proof
Great video as usual! I'm just curious about the Dunlop Sport Maxx, would they fit in this category of tyres?
Great Video, Glad you added the Yoko for the test! 🇯🇵💖
I have recently fitted Michelin Pilot Sport 5's to my Golf7 R and find your conclusions pretty bang on to be fair. They are SO predictable in the wet and in the dry and very supple in terms of ride quality but they are not for the precision driver or track days in that they are a little numb and lacking in feel for competitive drivers, but as a road tire they are superb and suit me to a tee, as I like to make swift but relaxed and ultimately very safe progress on the country roads where I live which are too often wet and greasy. I would fit them again without question as they take so much stress out of my daily commute. Oh, and they hold tire dressing better than my old PS4's by a big big margin due to their sidewall design.
Thank you for that feedback. May i ask something, as i'm interested in fitting PS5 too (not for track, just commuting, highway and some spirited driving).
You said they're SO predictable ? I would assume in a good way, right ? (grippy, confident etc..)
Also, would you say the road noise is acceptable for highway driving ?
Really pleased to hear that you do blind tests. I hope that the people who are changing the tyres are also aware of giving anything away with facial expressions, a big grin when they fit the tyres they expect to be the best can easily influence your own impressions of the tyre.
Your adherence to the scientific method and providing results we can rely on, is awesome! Thank you!
Thank you :D
You really do some incredible work. Thank you for what you do!
Thanks!
You LEGEND! Thanks for such a detailed and interesting review. I always thought I was a bit sad being so “into” tyres, glad I’m in good company!
Tyre geeks unite!
Nice review. Wich tire do you think will mantain better performance when used? (Or wich tire will last longer?)
I think this aspect is always underrated
Just see the threadwear dude
The PS5 should have the lead in wear now
@@tyrereviews agree! my first (and only) Goodyear's were dead after only 20.000km. I was shocked and disappointed, especially because i drive usually relaxed. My Cardealer confirmed me that the GY have a horrible Durability.
Would love to see tests of tyres where the manufacturer has different models/types in the same size... so for Michelin do a comparisson test on track for say the CrossClimate2, the latest Primacy and the PS5. Most major brands have an all season, a touring and a sport tyre in this size and many drivers will be brand loyal.
I love those too, working on them :)
I do love my Continental's...
I got the TrueContact when my original tires wore out on my Mk 7 Golf, but I've been considering a sportier tire - the ProContact vs ExtremeContact. I think you've convinced me on the former, as the latter is definitely more tire than I need, but having a truly sporty tire fits my driving well.
Thank you for all you do!
I drive on S1 Evo3 (construction from 2018) and I'm so happy to see it on the 3rd place, after both tires that debuted in 2022. It really has a great performance on the wet road.
Feeling so smug! At your previous recommendation I put the Conti Premium Contact 6 on my BMW E39 and I’m loving it’s feel and great turn in, especially since I fitted Bilstein’s excellent B12 suspension kit. Wear has been good thus far, and I love its progression and great wet weather grip too. I can’t stop hooning around roundabouts and the great A roads (A272, 286, 283 are great) around S W Surrey either! Thank you so much for the tests.
Glad you're enjoying them, get a review on the site :D
How have you found them below 10 Celsius?
@@tyrereviews I will, think I reviewed the Goodyear Eagle F1 5’s I had previously, so I’ll do the same for these!
@@pigeonpoo1823 I haven’t noticed them being any worse than other summer UHP tyre, they are always progressive when they do slide, which with a big rear drive saloon is welcome. They can maybe understeer a little more when colder, but again that’s to be expected
@@huwprice881 how did you find the cabin noise compared to your previous tyres? 🤔
once again, thank you for all the effort you put in.
I was hoping the PS5 would be a bit better on subjective handling, but it seems not. Goodyear for me (once I've destroyed my current set!)
They seem to have their own ideas of what uhp should be
@@tyrereviews The "ST" version for South East Asia of the Pilot Sport 4 seems to be even worse! The floatiness of the SE Asian version was just ridiculous compared to an Eagle F1 or Potenza IMO.
Great job as per usual thanks for all the help you have given.
:D
Totally worth 20mins in my life, Thank you very much for doing this video!🥰🥰🥰
Thank you for the unique content you bring on this channel.
How much do you think the 91V version of the Continental PC6 would have been different in terms of comfort?
I’m assuming the 94Y XL rating, which is the top end in terms of sidewall stiffness, should not cope particularly well with the comfort and noise rates.
I don't actually know, I'll ask Conti
Given the great results of the Bridgestone Turanza, I would love to see a comparison between the Turanza T005, the Potenza S001 and the Potenza Sport. This way we could see the differences between those types of tyres. Great video!
.... and include the S-005. So far I'm under the impression the S-005 is a milder (OE) version of the Potenza Sport. In such a comparison I'd expect the outdated S-001 to place last.
What a test! Outstanding in every way.
Thanks!
Thank you again Jonathan ✌️ this channel has definitely become my favorite one. Keep it up
Thanks!
I'm still impressed by the Hankook S1 Evo3, as they should be offering a new V12 'Evo3' model for this group.
Absolutely fantastic video. Thank you!
You do such a good job! keep up the good work and thanks for all the info.
Got the Michelin PS5 for my Alfa GT in this dimension: first impressions > I like the balance of comfort and grip. But the looks, you're totally right! I'll write up a review on the website once I drive them a bit more ;) Stellar work, cheers!
Alfa without Pirelli? :D
But how is the road noise ? Good comfort with high road noise just don't add up.
I'm sceptical about PS5 just because of the road noise, everything else about them looks fantastic.
@@JasonTsimplis No complaints about the noise. By specs it's higher, but in real life the frequency makes it so that it's not noticeable as much. I'm really liking the comfort in daily driving. Great tyre overall, tons of grip and also comfy + the looks which really make the car look better overall with a nice set of wheels. I absolutely recommend them, especially for GT cars.
@@djlosmi That's so good to hear. I was wondering about the frequency, as i've heard many people talking about different frequencies being intrusive while some other not at all, but i couldn't find much info. Thank you, your feedback pretty much clarified exactly what i was concerned about. I'll get the PS5 :)
@@JasonTsimplis I'm glad I helped. You can never go wrong Michelin lol :D In my eyes GY AS6 was too harsh for daily driving by the specs so I chose the more comfy choice - and I'm so glad I did!
Great test as always. Pretty sure I'd be picking the Goodyear out of these. Considering a set of these costs more than some cars I feel like it's a real shame we can't test drive tyres like we do cars. Might also have a huge impact on buying cars since switching from old Goodyears to new Pirellis has changed my porker from a twitchy slide machine with great feel into almost a soft GT car with seemingly infinite grip.
I'll have to slap a P-Zero review on Tyre Reviews soonish, once I've put a few more miles on them to work out the wear. They'd definitely win any rim protector category! Pretty sure the huge overhangs mean my 265s are closer to 285 which also partially explains the awesome dry grip and not so awesome wet grip 😄
Nice one, great review as ever. Much appreciated
Thank you for the usual amazingly detailed and informative videos ; How does the Pilot sport 5 compare to the Pilot sport 4?
I went with premium contact 6 on my octavia vrs mk3 estate (tuned to 307bhp) from the bridgestone potenzas (i hated them)
i love them so far, so grippy in the dry and wet, not the best over our UK bumps and potholes but overall highly recommended, especially at £86 per tyre (225/40 r18) on an offer i cant complain at all with them.
Love these videos, keep it up
I've had PC6 on my Mondeo Titanium X Sport 2.5T for a few years. Just swapped out to PS5s all round and agree the PC6 is fairly grippy, but lacks comfort on UK roads. Early days yet but the PS5 seem to be better for comfort already and also very grippy so far (not done anything too crazy yet). I do note a little lack of responsiveness but not precision vs. the PC6. In the UK where I'm actually more likely to use the car in wet weather (when walking, cycling or similar won't be as fun), I think I'll grow to appreciate the Michelins. Also I'm crossing my fingers for better wear and though it's hard to tell the road noise being a smidge lower should make for more pleasant motorway stints. Based on this the AS6 would have been an interesting option but with the current Michelin Spring 2022 offer I'll get £50 cashback making my fully fitted price of the PS5 lower than the shipped price of the AS6 (and noone seems to have stock of those for fitting near me / available to me - I can only find one place to order them online and no fitting option).
So will I be happy moving from the Conti to the Michelin? Time will tell. I hope so. I don't have a performance hot hatch, but a car that is bigger that just happens to be able to hit 150mph. I hope the understeer isn't an issue. Also the PS5s do look pretty damn good.
I have PC6 on my VRS too :) Gets, get your thoughts on www.tyrereviews.com please :)
@@TheChiraagG Michelin does not offer any cashback in Serbia. >:(
@@DashCamSerbia that's unfortunate!
@@TheChiraagG Yeah had to pay full price for a set of CrossClimate 2, and chuck a set of Toyo NanoEnergy 3 in the bin.
An idea for a future video: Influence of load ratings: the same tyre on cars of a different weight, with 2-3 different load rated tyres. So: how will, e.g., a tyre that‘s good on an optioned out AWD Golf fair on a Mazda Miata or even a Caterham, and the other way around.
That would be a great review! A few weeks ago when the GY AS6 was tested the first time, I was a bit concerned about its somewhat lower "aquaplaning resistance". The MX-5 is very 'sensitive' in rainy and cold weather in general.
The issue is that it's not linear between brands, sometimes it would be literally the same tyre with a different sidewall, but I do want to make a video on it
@@tyrereviews That would be awesome. I’m always hesitant to choose tyres that were tested good on a Golf or BMW for my Miata, because the much lower weight might change which tyre actually works well, and it would be great to have at least a rough idea how much that really affects it.
I am enjoying your channel. Do you provide details of the tyre pressures the temps you get for these tyres as well somewhere?
great review as usual, infromative and easy to understand🚗🚗🚗
I have Conti PremiumContact 6 on my 2005 Renault Scenic 205/55 R16. They have so much grip that I have more fear of rolling than sliding haha, suspension ultra soft with high center of gravity with super sticky tires. I must say that I feel super comfortable and safe going faster than I should on turns in this potato car, amazing tires and for my next car I will put Cont SportContact 7 for sure.
Would have loved to see P Zero in the line up
Love the channel! So informative! How do you cope with the varying fuel levels of the car when you are comparing each tyre? This will effect results and I’m sure some people are only interested in the lap times 🤔
Thank you for all of your testing and reports. I bought a 2004 Acura TL, single owner, Florida car (NO rust), with only 89K miles on it, and treated myself to a set of Michelin Pilot Sport AS 4's and am VERY happy up here in Vermont with them. Less than a thousand miles on them so far but I put them through a 3-hour drive where there were points with black ice, then mostly normal light snow, ice and slush and I felt absolutely secure throughout the entire drive. THANK YOU!! PS: I was previously a Nokian fan, but these seem to be at least as good and much quieter.
they're so impressive, I'm glad you like them, please put a review on www.tire-reviews.com :D
What a missed opportunity to have the best tire comparison in the most popular 17 inch dimension by including the Bridgestone Potenza Sport, Yokohama Advan V107 and the new Falken FK520. It would have been a real benchmark. I hope for a future update. Great work nevertheless as always.
Two of those don't exist and then Bridgestone did a bridgestone
@@tyrereviews Yokohama come out this month, Falken FK520 is being sold already in 225/45/17.
Bridgestone did disappoint with their choice even though their Potenza Sport is impressive In this dimension, I just fitted it a week ago.
@@tyrereviews Lol comparing a PremiumContact with a Pilot sport 5(instead of Extremecontact sport) was already a JOKE! Way to go to promote Michelin..
@@michobebemckawi There's more to the world than America, try finding an ECS in Europe...
Great review as always. Just one gripe - why are these called 'ultra high performance tyres' these days? The PS3 was just a plain old 'high performance' tyre not so long ago. I think people would accept these were not aimed at 'ultra' performance, so why not just call them high performance tyres. This would then do away with the need to ever say 'ultra ultra high performance' ever again when reviewing Cup 2s etc......and nobody could be unhappy about that 😁 Thanks!
Some brands call the premium touring segment "high performance" for some reason
Excellent review. I am running the original PS4's (and wheels) on my i30 N Line and will be continuing with Michie's next time around. Tyre placard says 36psi all around, but the general consensus here is Oz is to go harder; I run 40psi all around and seem to be doing OK, with even wear and still plenty of tread left at 45,000km. Ride is still good at those pressures and I am sure the fact that I have them so hard has saved the tyres and rims from damage from hitting the huge potholes that are developing in the areas around where I live. What pressures did you use on the test?
Just fitted the pilot sport 5s onto my TTS. Amazing tyre with so much grip also very cool looking. Highly recommended.
I'm surprised that the Michelin 5 was still so soft.. though I feel like they are trying to push more performance focused customers to the 4S or Cup 2 now. But maybe sales of their performance tires went up when they got softer, as I feel a lot of people I think like to say they want sporty, but they mostly notice ride quality..
Exactly!
If they wear at a rate similar to PS4, it's best avoided. That's what nobody tells you, they wear quickly and as soon as there is any wear it instantly loses all of its performance. I wonder if that has changed at all with the PS5..
It's not surprising honestly, Michelin has been doing it since the Pilot Sport / Pilot Exalto. Now they're called the Pilot Sport S / Pilot Sport, but one is more about sports cars and the other about luxury sedans.
The promotional video for the Pilot Sport 5 uses an Audi A5 Sportback and the main argument is low wear with high level of wet grip.
@@dufonrafal yeah, I think this is like how even SUVs now have an "M" or "AMG". People want the performance name, but don't actually want any of the performance compromises
well as far i know the "PS5S" will be out next year this isnt the "sporty" tire at all more like universal one i would say... so i will grab the PS4S this year-ofc sportcup2 is another lvl... thinking about the new contis sportcontact 7 they rlly performed pretty good in test but still i got an i30n and the forums about what to wear instead of the Pzeros are like 100% ppl that changed to PS4S = gr8 improvement for the car... and the michelin last longer than the competitors... still u prolly gonan change them like every or every2 year so prolly doesnt matter at all :D
I would love to see an aging comparison of tyres. So subjecting them to as many heat cycles as they would be subjected to during their 40.000km life and shaving them down. Then doing the usual dry and especially wet tests and seeing how much they degraded. I suspect that some brands will degrade a lot more than others.
I have the segment of continental premium contact and eco contact in mind for this test.
Yeh - we definitely need a test that shows how tyres perform after a certain fixed mileage or wear amount. Manufacturers can design tyres just so they do well for 30 mins in these tests otherwise
I would also love to, however cost is a huge factory. It would be 100's of thousands.
@@tyrereviews understandable. Maybe a manufacturer is willing to cooperate? Seems like you have some very solid connections. I expect they would have thermal test chambers for the cycles and a machine to shave down the tire?
Thanks for your answer!
@@emmamitchell1582 there are machines to shave the tyres, but from all the data i've seen you only really get correlation in wet braking compared to actual worn tyres, the rest is way off. If you can invent a machine to wear tyres realistically you'll be very rich
Please keep up these videos!
They great!
Thank you!
I'll do my best :D
What a great test 😃👍‼️‼️‼️ Thank you for that.👋👍 Very informative test, showing the difference of the tyres in Details. Well done ✔️ 👏
Another great review! Not sure how the Michelin and Goodyear ended up being tied for 1st here though. The Goodyear basically beat the Michelin in almost every test - dry handling, wet handling, noise, and rolling resistance. Slightly less comfortable and prettier, but not sure how that makes it tied for 1st?
Michelin better aquaplaning
Michelin won in wet handling essentially as the GY aquaplaned a lot more than the Michelin? This was talked about in the video. Go back and listen again maybe.
Times aren't everything although they were pretty mucn identical in the test. Confidence in your tyre and staying on the road count too - most normal drivers don't have a track to practice on and would lose it in curved aquaplaning.
Michelin stopped better in the wet too - normal wet braking test and straight aquaplaning where the GY was garbage.
And all this despite the Michelin being more comfortable.
Because it has a sexy sidewall. If you even consider the look of a tyre when buying you have serious problems 🙄
aquaplaning - michelin was 1-st GY 8th, dry handling GY-2md, M-4th,dry braking Gy1-st M- 3rd, wet handling GY-1st, M-2ndh , wet breaking Gy-4th, M-3rd.So, michelin isn't best but PS5 don't have any weakness
@@Zduneqq the Michelin just isn't a sporty tyre in comparison to the Goodyear. Soft sidewalls gives you lazy steering.
Someone give him a knighthood. Awesome content Jack 👍🏽
Jack?! lol
@@tyrereviews ahahah sorry Jonathan. You have Alex Kerstern to thank for me thinking that was you name! Cheers for the content though 😂👍🏽
The best channel of its kind!!! Keep it up my friend. Good job
:D Thanks
mighty as always; thanks! Have You already tried the new spec Hankook s1 evo Z (K129)?