They told a emotional story on black panther the light at the end of the tunnel is T'challa son yall can tell a comic accurate story with this kid have study and be as smart as shuri have him master every fighting art then have him appear on a challenge day and win the throne
a gazillion percent...!!!! WHY is coogler so pigheaded AGAINST what everyone really WANTS here...??? EGO...??? that's IT...!!! the same with NOT recasting T'Challa...it was his emotion...his F-ing ego. he just doesn't wanna say HE made a f**king MISTAKE by not recasting....and he's just got a major HARDON on the idea of it's GOT TO BE the SON of T'Challa....that BP mantle's GOT TO BE PASSED ON. i thought he's supposed to be this comicbook nerd before he was a filmmaker....
So they are sticking with what Feige said.. Chadwick Boseman's portrayal of Tchalla transcends any iteration. Meaning Tchalla doesnt exist in the multiverse. The Tchild is their way forward and it makes no sense.
@@omartyre even CHADWICK HIMSELF said that the character should go on. the PROBLEM is with ryan "big EGO" coogler and that simp, nate moore....and maybe, kevin feige...or the powers-that-be who don't like the idea of a black male lead/character to head a hugely successfull movie franchise.
@@isuriadireja91This has nothing to do with black people man...🤦♂️ It's all about storytelling and writing, they can't seem to figure those parts out logically and this is the result of it. Black Panther is overrated anyways haha 😆
It's because it's not the same it's so obvious, black panther broke barriers that the powers that be expected,a billion dollar movie, culturally inclusive and pushed the black super hero from a futurism never seen before for black cinema
@ An majority black Film is "Inclusive"? And we have to treat Black Main Characters different than the whites? "from a futurism never seen before for black cinema" What the actual fuck? You sound like an Unironic Black Supremacist that think Wakanda is real or would b real without "Duh Whotes" You need help. Either Closet white supremacy, or you're a black supremacist that views race as the end all be all. Turns out, white people liked Black Panther, as without whites going to the box office it would have done nearly zero. But go ahead and pretend Black Panther is some race movie ya freak.
I don’t care either way & sure, fans are bitching right now but I think once a grown T’challa is putting foot to ass alongside the Avengers everything will be all good
Nah fr at this point Chadwick Boseman should have never been casted as Black Panther knowing the man was fighting Cancer. Now we are in a very bad situation where nobody wants to play the role and were going to get stuck with T'Child.
No one knew he had cancer when he was cast for the black panther character. It was only after he died that Fiege knew that he kept it a secret from everyone.
that's the d*mbest comment, bro. NOBODY, not even Chadwick knew he would get cancer, mofo. he found that out during or towards the end of the Civil War shoot. having said that....I've always had ALDIS HODGE as my pick for T'Challa, even before they announced Chadwick for the role. I do think Aldis should've been T'Challa from the very beginning. oh, well.....
Sounds like it’s a conflict going on. They say Black Panther is gonna be in doomsday .The word was he was going to be the full grown T Challa and then they were going to do Black Panther three afterwards
In BP1 there was a child he turned to be Killmonger. He was related to the Royal family that story made sense then. It seems like they didn't think this through this time. They rushed to make BP2 , throw in a son but story wise it doesn't make any sense. I think they dont know how to fix this mess. Back in the day, Marvel movies were highly anticipated, now i don't know. I'm sceptical!
@DaVideo17 - this video mentions the possibility of aging singular character. This technology can age a character without affecting the others in the timeline or using a variant. Perhaps, a sacrifice is to take the son of T'challa, and advise him he needs to sacrifice his childhood and age up into an adult to save his universe. This way, the MCU 616 doesn't have to explain his life story and possibly get his age aligned with the new casting of Black Panther. As well, the MCU just abandoned the proven fact there is an anti-aging technology existing in that universe, which works. What If has shown us there can be a BP variant, but that's another theory....
@@tonymontez2358if it’s not real life then it doesn’t matter what they decide to do. It isn’t going to negatively affect anyone’s life. It crazy how offended people get over the MCU not recasting a character out of respect
@@tonymontez2358 yes if they recast the character it will offend the actors, director, and other people who worked with Chadwick. That’s why they aren’t going to recast. Same reason they don’t recast actors in other projects when they pass away. Ultimately it’s up to the people who make the content to decide what to do, they are the most affected by the death. The fans don’t get to decide whether a character should be recast or not
I think to keep a cohesive story in the MCU, they should age up tchala jr and make him a genius smarter than shuri. That way he'll be closer to the comic book version without undoing Wakanda forever or staining Chadwicks death
When Marvel brings the Fantastic Four into the MCU, other characters the premiered in their series should also jump into the 616 universe, and that would include Black Panther. as well as Galactus, the Surfer, the Inhumans, and many others
I don’t really buy that Feige is a “nerd”. Just because he brought X-Men comics to the first X-Men cast secretly doesn’t make him a hardcore fan. If that were really true more than half of the decisions he’s made in the last few years would have NEVER happened. Unless he started as a Marvel fan n day one of “All new all different “ Marvel. And we all know that sucked big time.
No "hardcore fan" would be an executive in the first place. Keeping up with comics is a time consuming hobby, people in showbiz who vaguely knows about the comics are already few and far in between, let alone actively read them.
Resurrecting earth 616 T'challa is what's best for business. Ryan Coogler and whoever else is involved with Black Panther 3 seriously needs to stray away from the stereotypical step daddy narrative as much as possible. I as a black man and many black men and women who care would appreciate it if they avoid that narrative.
Marvel needs a reboot more than DC right now 😂😂😂 We're about to witness the most tragic downfall in the history of Hollywood as rhe MCU goes into a soft reboot with a ton of ancient actors who won't show up for cameos.
You literally said Jeff Snifer gets things wrong and yet you didn’t mention MTSH gets things wrong too like using the son. They’re both rumors and both likely never to happen.
Coogler, Moore, and Feige have turned the Black Panther franchise into one big "What If..." episode. What if T'Challa died? What if he had a son raised in Haiti? What if his son was aged up? It's a clown show at this point that has nothing to do with the comics. Way to destroy the Black Panther IP.
Keep in mind that Wesley Snipes is coming back as Blade so why are we believing g in My Time to Shine Hello. She too gets things wrong. So, the Russo Brothers are handling two Avengers Films what Black Panther do you think they will use?
The blame is on Wakanda Forever for killing the character of T'Challa and capitalising on the death of the actor which Marvel did wanting to boost sales for the film. They brought the kid right at the end credits which was weird. We had this build-up of seeing Shuri as the Black Panther coming into her own character and seeing her character arc seeing her fighting off Namor and his army and then right at the end of the film the movie goes ' Oh here's the son of the King he's gonna be Black Panther in the future cause he's the rightful heir to the throne. Women gonna be overthrown by a male prince LULZ sorry you wasted your time on this movie. ' Marvel right now is very stupid. People say they have a plan but right now Phase 4 and Phase 5 have been completely mishandled and has been an absolute mess.
The same amount of skepticism josh applies to JSis the amount I apply to MTTSH , a lot of unserious takes from that account as well. Also I refuse to believe this is what the Russo’s came up with
MTTS has sold her account a long time ago. This dude is just guessing. And whats the difference if its a T'Challa from another Universe or his son with some crazy time thing making him big after Secret Wars? Its the same shit. Different actor playing T'Challa. That's it.
I knew it was going to be aged up T’challa jr, it’s the only thing that makes sense. That’s why Damson Idris is a perfect fit he just gotta get in that gym
I addressed this on Geek Session vid I did the other day (M&M Talks). The child was always in picture even before Chadwick passed. The original Wakanda Forever script included him. T`Challa Jr is an important character going forward. The aging up thing isn't a problem. By the time Doomsday rolls around, he's lived through 2 US presidential administration's (Secret Invasion and Cap 4) plus some time after. Sidenote, I believe they may be casting 2 T'Challa`s. Prince T`Challa in our 616 and the Multiverse King T`Challa
I gather The Fantastic Four begins as a period piece so aging Franklin is as easy as a "Present Day" epilogue. Just a thought about T'Challa junior; what if the mantle is passed to the boy a few years older. By the time Black Panther 3 is finally completed he'll be aged up a bit. It would be a good dramatic hook to find the poor teenager having trouble bearing the weight of the mantle but then in the 3rd act our recast T'Challa enters to take it off his shoulders. Maybe the kid does his own thing and never bothers with being a superhero again or maybe he picks it up again at a later date when T senior is ready to pass it back to him. Best of both worlds.
How young we talking? I want them to at least be in mid 20’s by the Xmen movie so that we don’t have to go through another 3 Xmen movies before they start going cosmic.
Honestly I don’t see the issue, king T’challa died, “prince” T’challa is still “T’challa” he just happens to be a different one as Josh says T’challa the second. This T’challa can eventually have a relationship with Storm. BUT… THIS way of doing things actually makes sense in when they said Chadwick would always be “the MCU’s T’challa” everything he did for the character and for the franchise will stay intact in honour of him this way as it’s not just swapping the actor out. It just makes more sense in universe. It doesn’t hurt anything.
They should recast our Tchalla then in the movie have him come back from the ancestoral plain and that would be why he looks "different" so then they could have a grown black panther then you'll have a kid tchalla who can grow into the new black panther after secret wars!!
Variant T'challa Is a Better Option than Age Up T'challa Jr Bullcrap
@tonymontez2358 Bro Nobody Wants a Bastard Son. Give Me Back The Real T'challa Son Of TChaka or Black Panther 3 Will Flop
@@tonymontez2358bro Nobody Wants His Son Bring Back The Real T'challa Son Of TChaka
@@tonymontez2358bro no we don’t care about the damn kid lmao just give us the real black panther
@@MidknightGospel You can't recast Black Actors, that's racist.
Only White actors.
They told a emotional story on black panther the light at the end of the tunnel is T'challa son yall can tell a comic accurate story with this kid have study and be as smart as shuri have him master every fighting art then have him appear on a challenge day and win the throne
Nobody wanna see TChild we want Tchalla son of Tchaka
a gazillion percent...!!!!
WHY is coogler so pigheaded AGAINST what everyone really WANTS here...???
EGO...??? that's IT...!!!
the same with NOT recasting T'Challa...it was his emotion...his F-ing ego.
he just doesn't wanna say HE made a f**king MISTAKE by not recasting....and he's just got a major HARDON on the idea of it's GOT TO BE the SON of T'Challa....that BP mantle's GOT TO BE PASSED ON.
i thought he's supposed to be this comicbook nerd before he was a filmmaker....
So they are sticking with what Feige said.. Chadwick Boseman's portrayal of Tchalla transcends any iteration. Meaning Tchalla doesnt exist in the multiverse. The Tchild is their way forward and it makes no sense.
Chadwick doesnt own the character (RIP) it's wild
@@omartyre even CHADWICK HIMSELF said that the character should go on.
the PROBLEM is with ryan "big EGO" coogler and that simp, nate moore....and maybe, kevin feige...or the powers-that-be who don't like the idea of a black male lead/character to head a hugely successfull movie franchise.
@@andreware847 Feige Needs To Understand the Character
@@isuriadireja91This has nothing to do with black people man...🤦♂️
It's all about storytelling and writing, they can't seem to figure those parts out logically and this is the result of it.
Black Panther is overrated anyways haha 😆
Makes the most sense.
they are being soooo weird about this character bro.... like at this point its DISRESPECTFUL to chadwick... let my mans rest in piece
Why can't we Recast Black Actors but we can with white actors?
WarMachine says Hi, both of them
@@Nvs76 That's before the Culture war and before Disney called its fans racist.
It's Hollywood anyone who's willing to take the money can get it
It's because it's not the same it's so obvious, black panther broke barriers that the powers that be expected,a billion dollar movie, culturally inclusive and pushed the black super hero from a futurism never seen before for black cinema
@ An majority black Film is "Inclusive"? And we have to treat Black Main Characters different than the whites?
"from a futurism never seen before for black cinema" What the actual fuck? You sound like an Unironic Black Supremacist that think Wakanda is real or would b real without "Duh Whotes" You need help.
Either Closet white supremacy, or you're a black supremacist that views race as the end all be all.
Turns out, white people liked Black Panther, as without whites going to the box office it would have done nearly zero.
But go ahead and pretend Black Panther is some race movie ya freak.
I don’t care either way & sure, fans are bitching right now but I think once a grown T’challa is putting foot to ass alongside the Avengers everything will be all good
They should just cast RDJ as Black Panther 😂
So we might be getting a Future Trunks arc with Black Panther huh? I’m down for it.
Don't compare greatness with this terrible idea
EXACTLY , jr black panther is the way to go 👍🏼
Nah fr at this point Chadwick Boseman should have never been casted as Black Panther knowing the man was fighting Cancer. Now we are in a very bad situation where nobody wants to play the role and were going to get stuck with T'Child.
No one knew he had cancer when he was cast for the black panther character. It was only after he died that Fiege knew that he kept it a secret from everyone.
that's the d*mbest comment, bro.
NOBODY, not even Chadwick knew he would get cancer, mofo.
he found that out during or towards the end of the Civil War shoot.
having said that....I've always had ALDIS HODGE as my pick for T'Challa, even before they announced Chadwick for the role.
I do think Aldis should've been T'Challa from the very beginning.
oh, well.....
It would move the story forward where it left off at the second.
That would be the biggest mistake ever by marvel
9:54 The already showed us this in End Game with Ant-Man (old man / kid / baby).
Sounds like it’s a conflict going on. They say Black Panther is gonna be in doomsday .The word was he was going to be the full grown T Challa and then they were going to do Black Panther three afterwards
In BP1 there was a child he turned to be Killmonger. He was related to the Royal family that story made sense then. It seems like they didn't think this through this time. They rushed to make BP2 , throw in a son but story wise it doesn't make any sense. I think they dont know how to fix this mess. Back in the day, Marvel movies were highly anticipated, now i don't know. I'm sceptical!
Could be an interesting dynamic, a fatherless Tachalla Jr raising/mentoring his younger self. Ryan Coogler said he wanted a father son BP movie.
The Hulk quantum technology used on Ant Man still exist. It made Ant Man younger and aged him. So, could it be used on Black Panther T'Challa?
But why
@DaVideo17 - this video mentions the possibility of aging singular character. This technology can age a character without affecting the others in the timeline or using a variant. Perhaps, a sacrifice is to take the son of T'challa, and advise him he needs to sacrifice his childhood and age up into an adult to save his universe. This way, the MCU 616 doesn't have to explain his life story and possibly get his age aligned with the new casting of Black Panther. As well, the MCU just abandoned the proven fact there is an anti-aging technology existing in that universe, which works. What If has shown us there can be a BP variant, but that's another theory....
@@tonymontez2358if it’s not real life then it doesn’t matter what they decide to do. It isn’t going to negatively affect anyone’s life. It crazy how offended people get over the MCU not recasting a character out of respect
@@tonymontez2358 they’re not going to do that though because they don’t want to.
@@tonymontez2358 yes if they recast the character it will offend the actors, director, and other people who worked with Chadwick. That’s why they aren’t going to recast. Same reason they don’t recast actors in other projects when they pass away. Ultimately it’s up to the people who make the content to decide what to do, they are the most affected by the death. The fans don’t get to decide whether a character should be recast or not
I think to keep a cohesive story in the MCU, they should age up tchala jr and make him a genius smarter than shuri. That way he'll be closer to the comic book version without undoing Wakanda forever or staining Chadwicks death
When Marvel brings the Fantastic Four into the MCU, other characters the premiered in their series should also jump into the 616 universe, and that would include Black Panther. as well as Galactus, the Surfer, the Inhumans, and many others
I like that idea
The inhumans are the lamest characters besides black bolt
@josedeleon490
That's beside the point, but you're entitled to your stupid opinion.
Marvel abandon Alot of things. No one talks about Morgan Stark. I think the kid as a recast, is one of the many ideas, Marvel are playing with.
Hickman's comic run had this happen too. I knew this would happen
There was another Doctor Who-ism… “Timey-wimey”
You sure you aren’t a Doctor Who Fan, Josh?
Make Ryan gosling black panther and then make George Clooney iron man from a different color earth. It would be funny.
We live in a society where Deadpool and wolverine gets into oscar nominations lol
Anybody that calls Larson “difficult “ has my respect lol 🤣
I don’t really buy that Feige is a “nerd”. Just because he brought X-Men comics to the first X-Men cast secretly doesn’t make him a hardcore fan. If that were really true more than half of the decisions he’s made in the last few years would have NEVER happened. Unless he started as a Marvel fan n day one of “All new all different “ Marvel. And we all know that sucked big time.
No "hardcore fan" would be an executive in the first place. Keeping up with comics is a time consuming hobby, people in showbiz who vaguely knows about the comics are already few and far in between, let alone actively read them.
Why don’t you report on the rumor about Aldis Hodge being T’Challa?
Resurrecting earth 616 T'challa is what's best for business. Ryan Coogler and whoever else is involved with Black Panther 3 seriously needs to stray away from the stereotypical step daddy narrative as much as possible. I as a black man and many black men and women who care would appreciate it if they avoid that narrative.
Marvel needs a reboot more than DC right now 😂😂😂
We're about to witness the most tragic downfall in the history of Hollywood as rhe MCU goes into a soft reboot with a ton of ancient actors who won't show up for cameos.
You literally said Jeff Snifer gets things wrong and yet you didn’t mention MTSH gets things wrong too like using the son. They’re both rumors and both likely never to happen.
Coogler, Moore, and Feige have turned the Black Panther franchise into one big "What If..." episode. What if T'Challa died? What if he had a son raised in Haiti? What if his son was aged up? It's a clown show at this point that has nothing to do with the comics. Way to destroy the Black Panther IP.
So they are killing T’Challa across all timelines 🙄😒 if that’s the case I definitely not paying and they aren’t making any money
Keep in mind that Wesley Snipes is coming back as Blade so why are we believing g in My Time to Shine Hello. She too gets things wrong. So, the Russo Brothers are handling two Avengers Films what Black Panther do you think they will use?
The blame is on Wakanda Forever for killing the character of T'Challa and capitalising on the death of the actor which Marvel did wanting to boost sales for the film.
They brought the kid right at the end credits which was weird. We had this build-up of seeing Shuri as the Black Panther coming into her own character and seeing her character arc seeing her fighting off Namor and his army and then right at the end of the film the movie goes ' Oh here's the son of the King he's gonna be Black Panther in the future cause he's the rightful heir to the throne. Women gonna be overthrown by a male prince LULZ sorry you wasted your time on this movie. '
Marvel right now is very stupid. People say they have a plan but right now Phase 4 and Phase 5 have been completely mishandled and has been an absolute mess.
“T’child”
The same amount of skepticism josh applies to JSis the amount I apply to MTTSH , a lot of unserious takes from that account as well. Also I refuse to believe this is what the Russo’s came up with
You think shine is correct but you pointed out the kang situation 😂
It’s really not that deep
MTTS has sold her account a long time ago. This dude is just guessing. And whats the difference if its a T'Challa from another Universe or his son with some crazy time thing making him big after Secret Wars? Its the same shit. Different actor playing T'Challa. That's it.
Fake news ryan coogler said he's not even done with the script but the guy you know says this and you run away with it.
TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF 🧂
So stupid u worried about a dead person being recasted, I'm forced on kang the guy that's a live, it's hard living with u European descendants
Aged up son of t’challa > new actor as variant
This is a rumor
One that’s most likely to happen
@DaVideo17 for me very unlikely
Variant of the son sounds dumb
I knew it was going to be aged up T’challa jr, it’s the only thing that makes sense. That’s why Damson Idris is a perfect fit he just gotta get in that gym
Ok at this point marvel is doomed, and ill be glad it's gonna doom
How ironic
This shit sounds goofy as hell
I addressed this on Geek Session vid I did the other day (M&M Talks). The child was always in picture even before Chadwick passed. The original Wakanda Forever script included him. T`Challa Jr is an important character going forward. The aging up thing isn't a problem. By the time Doomsday rolls around, he's lived through 2 US presidential administration's (Secret Invasion and Cap 4) plus some time after. Sidenote, I believe they may be casting 2 T'Challa`s. Prince T`Challa in our 616 and the Multiverse King T`Challa
This is lame…I’m out on marvel if the child is raised up. Not going back at all!
@@Bbyrd_ Same here
I gather The Fantastic Four begins as a period piece so aging Franklin is as easy as a "Present Day" epilogue. Just a thought about T'Challa junior; what if the mantle is passed to the boy a few years older. By the time Black Panther 3 is finally completed he'll be aged up a bit. It would be a good dramatic hook to find the poor teenager having trouble bearing the weight of the mantle but then in the 3rd act our recast T'Challa enters to take it off his shoulders. Maybe the kid does his own thing and never bothers with being a superhero again or maybe he picks it up again at a later date when T senior is ready to pass it back to him. Best of both worlds.
I want Tchalla and Storm to be friends while young. Eventually Marry.
make it so.
How young we talking? I want them to at least be in mid 20’s by the Xmen movie so that we don’t have to go through another 3 Xmen movies before they start going cosmic.
@Gratefuldoom whatever age the xmen are going to be... make him around that.
@@charliesmarts1 lol that works.
The black panther franchise is dead
Oh well got to move on
Honestly I don’t see the issue, king T’challa died, “prince” T’challa is still “T’challa” he just happens to be a different one as Josh says T’challa the second. This T’challa can eventually have a relationship with Storm.
BUT…
THIS way of doing things actually makes sense in when they said Chadwick would always be “the MCU’s T’challa” everything he did for the character and for the franchise will stay intact in honour of him this way as it’s not just swapping the actor out. It just makes more sense in universe. It doesn’t hurt anything.
They should recast our Tchalla then in the movie have him come back from the ancestoral plain and that would be why he looks "different" so then they could have a grown black panther then you'll have a kid tchalla who can grow into the new black panther after secret wars!!