The chart you skipped is actually the most damning. Episode 1 and 2 of the acolyte released the same day and about 800,000 people dipped after episode 1.
One thing that gets over looked is Disney as a kids app. My kids watch stuff all the time on Disney, none of it is new stuff. When my wife and older kid sit to watch something Disney is never considered. I did watch skeleton crew with my 10 year old, and we had a good time. All the other new shows we skipped.
There should have been ONE MCU series on D+: Daredevil Born Again. And there should only have been ONE Star Wars series on D+: The Mandalorian. Those properties fill a niche that feels unique from the movies.
Couldn't agree more disney somehow thought they could scrap the quality over quantity when they forgot the only reason they got this big was small contained movies e.i Ironman 1, captain America 1st avenger, and Thor
Come on people there was a streaming wars happening and not to mention covid...so yea 1 do not you are not 100% right know the dust have settled and hindsight is 20/20. I still believe they should take risk but they have to be smart about it
Your "Warhammer is going to win" is a wild take btw. I played, collected, read and painted the minis for 3 years. I got burnt out so fast with that shit. They update the rules like once a month, just to get people to buy new models. It's beyond lame. My minis are collecting dust.
They gave you movie with popular characters. You hated them. That gave you rebooted younger versions of solo. You all hated that. Part of the problem is the younger generations have no attention span and that hate content is faster and easier to make than positive content….so enjoy your clicks.
None of this actually matters as long as people are not canceling their subscriptions to Disney+. There’s tons of stuff streaming that I haven’t gotten around to watching. If Marvel was falling off the way you claim you wouldn’t have a job. As usual, you’ve got it wrong & you missed the point. -Just Saiyan!
No, you don’t get fired from TH-cam, but this man is seeing his own views go WAY down because no one gives a shit about Marvel anymore. How many years of dogshit projects did they think they’d be able to get away with. YOU missed the point 😂😂😂
I think this (the dips/dropoffs in numbers) has a lot to do with the end of the pandemic. Think about it; streamers were doing incredibly well during the pandemic but, when CoVid declined, viewership numbers started declining in earnest. It makes sense; after the pandemic, people wanted to get out of the house -- find other people, do other things. And they're still doing that because, as it turns out, people like connecting with other people. Now, I'm not saying that some of the numbers won't go back up again after the bloom comes off the rose, I'm just saying that I think I understand what has happened to streamers.
That IS shocking! I like how Disney is using (& really ABUSING) the Daredevil IP to try to save their sinking ship which is their streaming platform. Daredevil was good enough for Netflix, Daredevil will be good enough for D+. Daredevil has passed all of Marvel’s proof of concepts. Daredevil DESERVES his own Franchise. If the DD movie was well made & didn’t resonate, I would understand this treatment but the character was never given a fair shot until 2015…the Incredible Hulk cameo was alright. GIVE THE DEVIL HIS DUE. Reshooting the BA series was honestly the LEAST they could do. These guys are claiming that Cap4 has one of the lowest production budgets for a Marvel movie but they fail to realize that a Daredevil movie would keep production costs low already. Like STOP PUSSYFOOTING. I think the Marvel fan base has made it clear time after time after time that Daredevil sells, Daredevil IS box office (as Stephen A Smith would say). Disney/Marvel’s company decisions kill me to no end. Get some boots on the ground, do some polls, let’s open up the FUCKING discussion.
Disney/ Marvel's big problem is leadership! Marvel movies even early shows were love letters to nerds like myself. There's no love in these new shows. They got some gay shit but no love. Look at iron man 1 shit even agents of sheild it was made with the thought/love of the comic. Who gives a shit what's going on in the world. We go to these ip's to escape. Rant over
the watch time on any show is going to lower now verse when everyone was stuck at home durning covid all the data shows is that most people are living life more normal witch mean s less tv for most I thank that if you have to hit the same numbers that we're hit durning covid it will never happen !!!!
All these MCU shows are diluting the brand. It’s called the Marvel CINEMATIC Universe, just movies. Cancel Daredevil: Born Again and MARVEL Zombies and EVERYTHING else. X-MEN ‘97 should be the key to MARVEL: stand-alone stuff. Let’s KEEP it that way 😀
@ movies are what MAKE the MONEY, not shows that are diluting the brand AND are EXPENSIVE AND are NOT making any money. They are destroying their brand. So far, DISNEY +‘s grade for BOTH Phase 4 and 5 is a D +, un-ironically. They should cancel ALL DISNEY + shows and keep stand-alone stuff, like X-MEN ‘97. Keep the MCU a Marvel CINEMATIC UNIVERSE: just films 😀
Its the hate you give...people have their own echo chamber and lose their own self and objective so when people say its sucks herd mentality will happen and not watch some shows.
Everyone’s a follower these days… It’s cool to hate Disney🤦🏻♂️While fans like myself went 20+ years without any new Star Wars films or shows, everyone complaining & meanwhile I’m happy af to get all this content from Star Wars & Marvel🍿Is some of it bad? Surely! But when you’re 20+ films in a saga unlike any other before or after it, you’ll have some misses, even a series of misses. But people act like we didn’t just get No Way Home, Deadpool & Wolverine & GOTG3. You little tablet babies need to relax😂
The chart you skipped is actually the most damning. Episode 1 and 2 of the acolyte released the same day and about 800,000 people dipped after episode 1.
It's crazy they're trying to force the one episode per week schedule. Netflix ruined that, nobody waits for an episode for a forgettable show.
Disney should sell Star Wars
One thing that gets over looked is Disney as a kids app. My kids watch stuff all the time on Disney, none of it is new stuff. When my wife and older kid sit to watch something Disney is never considered.
I did watch skeleton crew with my 10 year old, and we had a good time. All the other new shows we skipped.
How much do the short episode run times play into these numbers if they just go by minutes watched?
never in my life I imagined den crashing out on marvel in a video game
There should have been ONE MCU series on D+: Daredevil Born Again. And there should only have been ONE Star Wars series on D+: The Mandalorian. Those properties fill a niche that feels unique from the movies.
Couldn't agree more disney somehow thought they could scrap the quality over quantity when they forgot the only reason they got this big was small contained movies e.i Ironman 1, captain America 1st avenger, and Thor
Come on people there was a streaming wars happening and not to mention covid...so yea 1 do not you are not 100% right know the dust have settled and hindsight is 20/20. I still believe they should take risk but they have to be smart about it
Your "Warhammer is going to win" is a wild take btw. I played, collected, read and painted the minis for 3 years. I got burnt out so fast with that shit. They update the rules like once a month, just to get people to buy new models. It's beyond lame. My minis are collecting dust.
Josh was absolutely spitting in this video
You think it’s got anything to do with pandemic people being at home and changes going back to work in office for most folks?
D+ costs too much per month. People are getting sick of the cost.
They gave you movie with popular characters. You hated them. That gave you rebooted younger versions of solo. You all hated that. Part of the problem is the younger generations have no attention span and that hate content is faster and easier to make than positive content….so enjoy your clicks.
None of this actually matters as long as people are not canceling their subscriptions to Disney+. There’s tons of stuff streaming that I haven’t gotten around to watching. If Marvel was falling off the way you claim you wouldn’t have a job. As usual, you’ve got it wrong & you missed the point. -Just Saiyan!
No, you don’t get fired from TH-cam, but this man is seeing his own views go WAY down because no one gives a shit about Marvel anymore. How many years of dogshit projects did they think they’d be able to get away with. YOU missed the point 😂😂😂
I think this (the dips/dropoffs in numbers) has a lot to do with the end of the pandemic. Think about it; streamers were doing incredibly well during the pandemic but, when CoVid declined, viewership numbers started declining in earnest. It makes sense; after the pandemic, people wanted to get out of the house -- find other people, do other things. And they're still doing that because, as it turns out, people like connecting with other people. Now, I'm not saying that some of the numbers won't go back up again after the bloom comes off the rose, I'm just saying that I think I understand what has happened to streamers.
That IS shocking!
I like how Disney is using (& really ABUSING) the Daredevil IP to try to save their sinking ship which is their streaming platform.
Daredevil was good enough for Netflix, Daredevil will be good enough for D+.
Daredevil has passed all of Marvel’s proof of concepts. Daredevil DESERVES his own Franchise.
If the DD movie was well made & didn’t resonate, I would understand this treatment but the character was never given a fair shot until 2015…the Incredible Hulk cameo was alright.
GIVE THE DEVIL HIS DUE.
Reshooting the BA series was honestly the LEAST they could do.
These guys are claiming that Cap4 has one of the lowest production budgets for a Marvel movie but they fail to realize that a Daredevil movie would keep production costs low already. Like STOP PUSSYFOOTING. I think the Marvel fan base has made it clear time after time after time that Daredevil sells, Daredevil IS box office (as Stephen A Smith would say).
Disney/Marvel’s company decisions kill me to no end. Get some boots on the ground, do some polls, let’s open up the FUCKING discussion.
Disney/ Marvel's big problem is leadership! Marvel movies even early shows were love letters to nerds like myself. There's no love in these new shows. They got some gay shit but no love. Look at iron man 1 shit even agents of sheild it was made with the thought/love of the comic. Who gives a shit what's going on in the world. We go to these ip's to escape. Rant over
the watch time on any show is going to lower now verse when everyone was stuck at home durning covid all the data shows is that most people are living life more normal witch mean s less tv for most I thank that if you have to hit the same numbers that we're hit durning covid it will never happen !!!!
Without watching i Bet its bad lol
All these MCU shows are diluting the brand. It’s called the Marvel CINEMATIC Universe, just movies.
Cancel Daredevil: Born Again and MARVEL Zombies and EVERYTHING else. X-MEN ‘97 should be the key to MARVEL: stand-alone stuff.
Let’s KEEP it that way 😀
no
@ why?
Ur tripping😂
@ movies are what MAKE the MONEY, not shows that are diluting the brand AND are EXPENSIVE AND are NOT making any money.
They are destroying their brand. So far, DISNEY +‘s grade for BOTH Phase 4 and 5 is a D +, un-ironically.
They should cancel ALL DISNEY + shows and keep stand-alone stuff, like X-MEN ‘97. Keep the MCU a Marvel CINEMATIC UNIVERSE: just films 😀
Its the hate you give...people have their own echo chamber and lose their own self and objective so when people say its sucks herd mentality will happen and not watch some shows.
Yea, IF THEY ADAPTED IT FAITHFULLY WARHAMMER WILL WIN! So anyway whre can sub to that warhammer podcast?
Everyone’s a follower these days… It’s cool to hate Disney🤦🏻♂️While fans like myself went 20+ years without any new Star Wars films or shows, everyone complaining & meanwhile I’m happy af to get all this content from Star Wars & Marvel🍿Is some of it bad? Surely! But when you’re 20+ films in a saga unlike any other before or after it, you’ll have some misses, even a series of misses. But people act like we didn’t just get No Way Home, Deadpool & Wolverine & GOTG3. You little tablet babies need to relax😂
Wow, somebody has LOW standards.
I love how in the three examples you gave of successful movies, two came out over five years ago!
Arent following Den of nerds? Then that makes you a follower too. So what is your point?