Imagine. If someone from Google watched this and pushed out an update to play audio from the dock and the tablet at the same time... Imagine, what a world that would be.
The problem is this wanders into the exact gray area of speaker grouping where Google would have limited functionality because of patents in place by Sonos. This infringement is what cost Google tens of millions to Sonos just a couple years ago.
@@majutsush1software patents are particularly bad. So much of the time they've been allowed to claim an outcome - eg speaker grouping - not the method by which it is achieved, which is what patents are supposed to protect.
Wish the dock worked as a google home speaker by itself, that would be really cool to be able to play music on it without the tablet connected. Seems reasonable given how much they cost
Hey Shortcircuit, for your battery tests you should test at the same perceived brightness (in nits) instead of 50% brightness. If the phone can get way brighter that means you won't have to have it at 50% brightness but can have it at 35% to have the same visuals and that makes the tablet come out better than it really would in real life.
then it wouldn't be fair for other devices for low end it would be hard while for high end it would be easy.its better for everything 50% for every devices
@@nothinginteresting1833 I disagree, if the basic level to be useful as a tablet is 300 nits brightness(example value could be 200 or whatever, just make it a standard level), it would be better to test at the same brightness value across all devices, if a Basic tablet can only survive 1 hour at a useable brightness then it is shit and should appear shit on the graph.
I agree with you, but given the state of Android tablets that better than you can say about the other tablets its competing with. It's not nothing that the tablet itself is a fine tablet that isn't going to amaze people because the bar is so low, and hopefully if Google cares about this long enough (yes I know, that's why it took so long for me to buy a Pixel) we can see some real progress on the hardware and software side.
I use an old Samsung that docks and connects to my home assistant. If I disconnect it, I can just use it like a normal tab. What makes this really cool is the speaker
Yeah! Especially since it's more for home, I'd expect the front camera to be really great for video conferencing.. Ya know? That dock could rotate and ya know? heh.. It seems pretty useless to me compared to other tablets, at that price.. ugh...
11:49 I'm not gonna lie, as insane as it sounds I am absolutely so lazy I'd prefer to cast a video from my phone to my tablet or computer instead of just searching it up independently on that device
I actually think you sold me on getting this. What I've been wanting is an at-home tablet for basic web browsing and video watching, with a convenient method of charging/smart home interaction The fact that it's as powerful as a pixel 7a/pro is all the power I need (I'm using a pixel 6 and it's more than fast enough for my needs) for what I want. Thanks for the honest review and more importantly: some stats to make me realise where it stands in terms of performance
--- Just easily missable big fair warning: This device does not have flashlight / LED-light for the camera among other various things. I for one highly recommend you do a comparison between "Nokia T21" and "Google Pixel Tablet" over at "GSMarena" to see how much Google-premium you would be paying for "air" ( sure, Google-tablet has gyro and compass, but otherwise feature plus utility-wise it really seems not to all that "better" but quite the same aside for the Pixel plus North-America-exclusive Google-features ). ---
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@@spiderpig1736 I would argue that they're also not making meaningful use of their money because they'll be in a locked down platform that has planned obsolescence.
I‘m still a bit mad that the price is so high in the EU. It seems like they force buyers to pay for the dock as well, which means that the whole package costs almost 700€.
Really would love to see a comparison between the pixel tab and iPads in terms of different use cases. Would help me get a better idea if its worth my time. Ltt video idea?
Ive been wanting this as a feature for the Nest Hub/Max for a while now, but I think at that price with the lack-luster cameras/microphones it will have to wait a generation (if they actually keep this product line).
I'd very much like Google to release an App for older tablets to turn them into Google displays, help with longevity. Or perhaps like a generic dock so you can plug in a speaker and charge for example Edit: googled it and there is sort of a mode for this called 'Ambient mode' in Google assistant. I'd still like to see perhaps an official Google speaker Dock with a USBC cable connection so we can have a more standard experience
At that point though you might as well just use a basic speaker with a USB C adaptor, it would be much cheaper and offer much the same experience as a general purpose cabled speaker dock. With how basic this dock is Google would probably be charging 150+USD for something with a proper type C interface
The thing that would really sell me on this is a really high quality webcam/mic, for easy, high-quality video calls with friends and family. Considering how terrible both were in Riley's testing, I'll have to wait and see what gen 2 is like.
I've got it, and found that the dock makes it much more useful than "just" a tablet to be hand-held when in use (or with some flappy contraption to act as a messy stand). While it works nicely hand-held, it is not dead the rest of the time.
@@spiderpig1736 698.99€ with charger and a discount of 9% (Spain). I say that is Spain because in Spain our politicians make a law and if you buy any smartphone, tablet, flash drive, ssd/hdd, any device with memory to pay a canon because the goverment say that the device are use to pirate movies, series, etc.
Is this a better Nest Hub tho? Maybe it is there, but the video didnt show any docking mode where it shows the basic stuff like calander and lights like it does on the Nest Hub
Now imagine every iOS device, iPad and phone alike, gain MagSafe and standby then there would be millions of devices that could do just this but with better sound and apps or do this with just the iPhone
Please don't make a battery life test with a percentage of maximum brightness of the screen. It is useless when displays have different brightness. Use a set brightness of 300nits or something.
The third party situation is the same for years already and why the tablets keep on failing. It's the design of Android that just doesn't have this right, the one thing Apple is actually good in and why developers want to spend a bit of time on making their app work everywhere, the tools make it easy (I use Android btw).
On most android phones you can swatch the 2nd app with the app switcher button. To swap them you have to drag the 2nd to fullscreen then split again. But some phones don't let you manually enter split screen.
The entire thing would be perfect if they priced it appropriately - mid-range soc, mid screen, even mid speaker in the dock. Not even usbc for power? They cut EVERY corner. I hope some serious company does the same form factor cause i would like it as a present for my parents. But not for this price.
Bought one for the use cases of: Glorified Nest Hub, but also being able to watch something else on youtube or surfing while my wife is watching something on TV and/or I'm eating breakfast at the table without having to break out a laptop, and then also to watch movies on airplanes instead of having to watch on my cell phone and/or laptop. They're also just shipping the cases that have a kick stand that still allows for use with the dock.
10:39 Question: How come they have it set at 50% brightness when 50% brightness isn't standard across all other devices? Why not use a fixed nit brightness level?
Why is the tablet being tested against pixel products? If I'm in the market for a tablet (as a consumer), I am not comparing it to a phone... I'm comparing it to other tablets. Labs did a fail.
I love the way that David was yawning and then looking chill. I wonna see more daft and weird stuff when the host does a test shot of the crew.... the dafter the better 🤣. RIP ladder prop, you will be missed.
The problem I have with Apple products being suggested is all the apps that I already paid for on Android and the Play Store. Like yeah I get that it's probably a bit better and all but in the long run it's gonna cost more to get apps back JUST for a tablet.
@@SimonBauer7I couldn't disagree with that more because apple actually supports the ipad with new features and software updates that make the experience better where as Google just forgets that android for tablets is a thing. Also most apps on Android tablets are years behind the ones on iPads, not even TH-cam on Android tablets is updated as much as the ipad version is.
@@SimonBauer7personally i disagree. I am usually more of an Android person for my phones but for my tablets i've tried two Android tablets and finally bit the bullet and bought an iPad and it just thought out much better than the top of the line Android tablets i tried.
$500 is steep? US has the cheaper price by far. UK start at £600 which is currently $762. And the 256GB version is nearly $900 (£700)!! Can you imagine if the marketing and reviews were actually talking about the prices in Europe? This would flop instantly.
It doesn't look very good... then again I have a Samsung S8 Tab Ultra, so not much else does. But even as a cheap tablet it doesn't scream buy me. Jesus $500 starting price as well. How can a company who make the best mobile OS make such lack luster devices non-stop.
It would be better if a comparison is made with the best android tablet- the samsung tabs. It makes no sense to portray pixel tablet as the return of android tablet, taking samsung has been keeping it alive for 9 generations now.
I use a nest hub and this product is actually so close to being tempting for me. I think if they just added three more features (well, two features and change) then I would be breaking out a calculator to see if I could actually afford one. Without the following, I would be losing more than I would gain from upgrading. 1, I wouldn’t want to lose sleep sensing. 2, The microphones need to be front facing, not on the top. 3, The dock should double up as a Bluetooth speaker, if only for when the screen is disconnected.
I can see them doing this to have the mass market price point, and then later on release a pixel tablet pro max+™ that's compatible with the dock. they shouldve released the expensive one first though, if that's the case. i can also see them not making another tablet for the next 12 years
The dealbreaker for me was if the hub could be used as a media output for the tablet. Such a dumb, shortsighted decision that will result in landfills full of ewaste for no reason other than a slightly slightly slightly smaller initial cost.
Does it offer the same stuff that Nest hub offers? Meaning can I use it in the Good morning routine, set a spaghetti timer, and also connect to other Google smart devices to make a group? Currently I have Google home and Nest Hub in a group to amplify the sound through my apartment. This for me is important as those connections are vital whether to I purchase it or not
I returned mine. The speaker quality on the base stand is not good. The tablet is slow and clunky. And many Android apps don't run on a tablet. Should have been ChromeOS so you can use Linux features.
Chrome OS is a better tablet OS than Android. It's able to run android apps natively and has better multi window and multi user support. Android being mainly designed for smartphones is very lacking in those 2 areas, which are very common use cases for tablets. Not to mention Chrome OS has a desktop browser (TH-cam with adblock anyone?) and other desktop capabilities, like multi screen support.
Assuming the price is to match I don't have an issue with the camera, mic and speakers. The only recurring issue I have seen is the OS and processer being to slow and unusable.
I feel like the only reason it has a barrel plug is so that you don't take the whole dock to another room where you may already have a USB-C plugged in, trying to push users towards buying a second dock.
i would like to see google update the tablet to use the tablet speakers be tweeters and the dock speakers for mid's and bass . it still wouldn't sound great but it would definitely have a much better sound than what they currently have. this is actually a pretty good idea especially not with google assistant with bard coming. and possibly add some of the pixel excusive features like quick phrases and the great transcribing for messaging or email.
This is what, Google’s 6th or 7th tablet? Like there was the xoom (codeveloped with Motorola), nexus 7 2012 and 2013, nexus 10, nexus 9, and pixel slate. So whether you count the xoom or not (I do), it’s either the 6th or 7th gen tablet from Google. And they still haven’t gotten it right.
I could see some people who have security cameras set up around their house housing this as a viewing deck to flip the camera around the building/house or just videos like the layout need to put more into it though.
I've recently noticed that ShortCircuit has never featured any HyperX products, is there something specific for why or just a coincidence? Their products are generally good and a great option for its prices.
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M Not on every product, because they actually rebrand pretty decent products (mostly headphones), however they triple the price from the original. That's why people that never had a decent pair of headphones generally like Cloud II (Takstar Pro 80/82), Cloud Orbit S (Audeze Mobius), etc. They are usually competent, but they are VERY overpriced.
I picked one of these up to replace my ancient Lenovo tablet and its great! Just like its designed to be it basically stays at home and I'll use it for reading, videos, internet etc. and I can side load all the apps I regularly use which I wouldnt have on a ipad. The dock makes it really great for watching a video in bed and stuff. If you are already using a tablet regularly like I was and looking for an upgrade but want to stick to android this is excellent. I recomend it.
We got one for free by trading in an iPad from 2019. Other than the screen being very meh and the weirdness with the dock not being a speaker by itself, we really like it. I love how long it is, making for a nice e-reader
why not eq the sound when it's on the dock? LOL informative but a great amount of critical opinion. This was designed for a certain consumer which based on owner reviews and other pro reviews is a vast improvement and hits a sweet spot in the market
Imagine. If someone from Google watched this and pushed out an update to play audio from the dock and the tablet at the same time... Imagine, what a world that would be.
The problem is this wanders into the exact gray area of speaker grouping where Google would have limited functionality because of patents in place by Sonos. This infringement is what cost Google tens of millions to Sonos just a couple years ago.
Cmon xda community 🤞
@SolixTanaka how does Amazon get away with it with Alexa?
@@SolixTanakagod i hate patents
@@majutsush1software patents are particularly bad. So much of the time they've been allowed to claim an outcome - eg speaker grouping - not the method by which it is achieved, which is what patents are supposed to protect.
Wish the dock worked as a google home speaker by itself, that would be really cool to be able to play music on it without the tablet connected. Seems reasonable given how much they cost
Hey Shortcircuit, for your battery tests you should test at the same perceived brightness (in nits) instead of 50% brightness. If the phone can get way brighter that means you won't have to have it at 50% brightness but can have it at 35% to have the same visuals and that makes the tablet come out better than it really would in real life.
then it wouldn't be fair for other devices for low end it would be hard while for high end it would be easy.its better for everything 50% for every devices
@@nothinginteresting1833how would that not be fair just because a device is cheaper?
@@nothinginteresting1833 I disagree, if the basic level to be useful as a tablet is 300 nits brightness(example value could be 200 or whatever, just make it a standard level), it would be better to test at the same brightness value across all devices, if a Basic tablet can only survive 1 hour at a useable brightness then it is shit and should appear shit on the graph.
I think the whole concept of it become a smart home device while docked is pretty neat but other than that it is one of the tablets of all time
it is, indeed, one tablet
@@TheMlg556 Agreed, it's a tablet...not sure of all time but yes, a tablet.
I agree with you, but given the state of Android tablets that better than you can say about the other tablets its competing with. It's not nothing that the tablet itself is a fine tablet that isn't going to amaze people because the bar is so low, and hopefully if Google cares about this long enough (yes I know, that's why it took so long for me to buy a Pixel) we can see some real progress on the hardware and software side.
That's exactly what I use it for. A replacement for my Google Nest Hub
I use an old Samsung that docks and connects to my home assistant. If I disconnect it, I can just use it like a normal tab. What makes this really cool is the speaker
9:00 I feel like there should be camera comparisons to other tablets in this price range, like the 10th gen iPad, both rear-facing and front-facing.
Yeah! Especially since it's more for home, I'd expect the front camera to be really great for video conferencing.. Ya know? That dock could rotate and ya know? heh..
It seems pretty useless to me compared to other tablets, at that price.. ugh...
The iPad 10th Gen has much better 12mp cameras
It's £599 in the UK which is $760 which is honestly ridiculous. I was potentially in this until I saw that price.
Same. How does money work
Does that 599 include VAT? Because the US price never includes taxes.
oh wow, that's almost as much as a pretty good laptop
@@kyleg3588 yes it does
Buy it from the US?
The Nest Hub is $99. That is cheaper than the stand for this tablet’s stand.
I am really hoping that they don't kill it, because I'm definitely in for the idea for v2. But also I think the price is just a tad steep.
a cheaper version with a lower spec processor would be nice, a Pixel Tablet S if you will
Why? Google should stop making devices period. They’ve all been bad
Price is fine if they commit to software support. That is why Apple can charge more, people pay if they know it will still work in 5 years.
V2 will be very tempting
@@ILoveGrilledCheeseincorrect
Loving the lab integration being utilized so heavily! What a great addition for short circuit-style videos!
11:49 I'm not gonna lie, as insane as it sounds I am absolutely so lazy I'd prefer to cast a video from my phone to my tablet or computer instead of just searching it up independently on that device
I am actually surprised the speakers don't come out both stand and tablet
or at least have the option somewhere in the settings
I actually think you sold me on getting this. What I've been wanting is an at-home tablet for basic web browsing and video watching, with a convenient method of charging/smart home interaction
The fact that it's as powerful as a pixel 7a/pro is all the power I need (I'm using a pixel 6 and it's more than fast enough for my needs) for what I want.
Thanks for the honest review and more importantly: some stats to make me realise where it stands in terms of performance
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Just easily missable big fair warning:
This device does not have flashlight / LED-light for the camera among other various things.
I for one highly recommend you do a comparison between "Nokia T21" and "Google Pixel Tablet" over at "GSMarena" to see how much Google-premium you would be paying for "air"
( sure, Google-tablet has gyro and compass, but otherwise feature plus utility-wise it really seems not to all that "better" but quite the same aside for the Pixel plus North-America-exclusive Google-features ).
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@@PaveMentmana camera flash isnt a thing most people need on a tablet.
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@@SimonBauer7
By that logic:
Why even have a camera on the tablet / enlarged smartphone / PDA-devices?
Your argument-talk is pretty much identical to the any other penny-pincher-decision-folks who made the last call to remove headphone-jacks from almost all devices in "favour" of the wireless ones.
And made seven-segment error-code displays a "premium"-feature for the motherboards.
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I'd love to see an optional keyboard dock, assuming the 4 pins for the dock are the same 4 pins as USB.
@@spiderpig1736if it was an ipad pro yeah, but it isn’t and they don’t have the same magic as apple
@@spiderpig1736 I would argue that they're also not making meaningful use of their money because they'll be in a locked down platform that has planned obsolescence.
I‘m still a bit mad that the price is so high in the EU. It seems like they force buyers to pay for the dock as well, which means that the whole package costs almost 700€.
Google engineer: what if we take the Nest Hub Max and made the display removablr from the base?
Google Sales: holy moley make it so!
Nexus 7 is one of the greatest tablets of all time. I used the bejesus out of that thing and at $129, there has never been a better value.
I miss the 2nd gen Nexus 7, easily my favorite tablet ever.
Yes.
Same. If they made a reasonably priced successor, I'd buy it in a heartbeat
Really would love to see a comparison between the pixel tab and iPads in terms of different use cases. Would help me get a better idea if its worth my time. Ltt video idea?
Ive been wanting this as a feature for the Nest Hub/Max for a while now, but I think at that price with the lack-luster cameras/microphones it will have to wait a generation (if they actually keep this product line).
I'd very much like Google to release an App for older tablets to turn them into Google displays, help with longevity.
Or perhaps like a generic dock so you can plug in a speaker and charge for example
Edit: googled it and there is sort of a mode for this called 'Ambient mode' in Google assistant. I'd still like to see perhaps an official Google speaker Dock with a USBC cable connection so we can have a more standard experience
At that point though you might as well just use a basic speaker with a USB C adaptor, it would be much cheaper and offer much the same experience as a general purpose cabled speaker dock. With how basic this dock is Google would probably be charging 150+USD for something with a proper type C interface
At a lower price I will get it. Like said in the video, for an addition to my already existing smart home setup it is pretty nice.
The thing that would really sell me on this is a really high quality webcam/mic, for easy, high-quality video calls with friends and family. Considering how terrible both were in Riley's testing, I'll have to wait and see what gen 2 is like.
I want something like this to have in the kitchen and use it as a recipe book or to watch cooking videos. Maybe an "old" iPad with an arm? Opinions?
I've got it, and found that the dock makes it much more useful than "just" a tablet to be hand-held when in use (or with some flappy contraption to act as a messy stand). While it works nicely hand-held, it is not dead the rest of the time.
"I don't make tablets, I just make fun of them"
- Riley, 2023 [7:32]
Super glad to see labs data on short circuit. Makes these videos much more substantive
I kinda hate that when big companies 'attempt' a tablet, they put almost no effort into making it worth it.
This is the 3rd pixel tablet and Google killed it in Europe with the pricing.
How much euros? 600€?
@@ElCidCampeador1994680€
@@sawiix9850 how can google thinks that this price is a good idea?
@@spiderpig1736 around 700€ but you can find it on other big sellers at around 600€ easily
@@spiderpig1736 698.99€ with charger and a discount of 9% (Spain).
I say that is Spain because in Spain our politicians make a law and if you buy any smartphone, tablet, flash drive, ssd/hdd, any device with memory to pay a canon because the goverment say that the device are use to pirate movies, series, etc.
I totally agree with them using a barrel plug for charging, USB-C is great but it's way more delicate.
Is this a better Nest Hub tho? Maybe it is there, but the video didnt show any docking mode where it shows the basic stuff like calander and lights like it does on the Nest Hub
2:03 riley got bamboozled when he said „wow“, it still is only 5gbits
Now imagine every iOS device, iPad and phone alike, gain MagSafe and standby then there would be millions of devices that could do just this but with better sound and apps or do this with just the iPhone
Please don't make a battery life test with a percentage of maximum brightness of the screen. It is useless when displays have different brightness. Use a set brightness of 300nits or something.
not really relevant. the average person doesn't measure nits on their screen. they measure based on the slider
4:10 Did you forget about Android Honeycomb that was launched in 2011 on the Motorola Xoom and designed for tablets.
Barrel charger?! NEXT!
The third party situation is the same for years already and why the tablets keep on failing. It's the design of Android that just doesn't have this right, the one thing Apple is actually good in and why developers want to spend a bit of time on making their app work everywhere, the tools make it easy (I use Android btw).
On most android phones you can swatch the 2nd app with the app switcher button. To swap them you have to drag the 2nd to fullscreen then split again.
But some phones don't let you manually enter split screen.
I'm thinking of getting this to sit in my kitchen to show recipes and play podcasts at a louder volume than my phone
The entire thing would be perfect if they priced it appropriately - mid-range soc, mid screen, even mid speaker in the dock. Not even usbc for power? They cut EVERY corner. I hope some serious company does the same form factor cause i would like it as a present for my parents. But not for this price.
Bought one for the use cases of: Glorified Nest Hub, but also being able to watch something else on youtube or surfing while my wife is watching something on TV and/or I'm eating breakfast at the table without having to break out a laptop, and then also to watch movies on airplanes instead of having to watch on my cell phone and/or laptop. They're also just shipping the cases that have a kick stand that still allows for use with the dock.
This is made to be used with Google Home yet it is barely mentioned or tested.
9:17 David channelling his inner Steven Hawking there 😄
I love my Google nest Hub, so versatile. Can use it as a 3rd monitor to watch streams while im doing work and also use it as pc speaker 😂
Damn 2018 was 5 years ago
Not sure why you went through the trouble of doing 720p video longevity playback and didn't put in a 1080p slide next.
"I don't make tablets , i make fun of them 🤨" Riley
12:23 Ipad... man he held out as much as he could.
10:39 Question: How come they have it set at 50% brightness when 50% brightness isn't standard across all other devices?
Why not use a fixed nit brightness level?
Why is the tablet being tested against pixel products?
If I'm in the market for a tablet (as a consumer), I am not comparing it to a phone... I'm comparing it to other tablets.
Labs did a fail.
I love the way that David was yawning and then looking chill. I wonna see more daft and weird stuff when the host does a test shot of the crew.... the dafter the better 🤣. RIP ladder prop, you will be missed.
The microphone volume may be quiet, but those were insanely clear to my ear at least.
1:05 WAIT IT COMES WITH BARREL BUT CHARGES WITH USB=-C ?
Why are all the comparisons against the pixel phones and not competing tablets?
The problem I have with Apple products being suggested is all the apps that I already paid for on Android and the Play Store. Like yeah I get that it's probably a bit better and all but in the long run it's gonna cost more to get apps back JUST for a tablet.
it really isnt. beleive me i know both. apples ipad is overhyped. a good quality android tablet is the same as an ipad.
@@SimonBauer7I couldn't disagree with that more because apple actually supports the ipad with new features and software updates that make the experience better where as Google just forgets that android for tablets is a thing. Also most apps on Android tablets are years behind the ones on iPads, not even TH-cam on Android tablets is updated as much as the ipad version is.
@@SimonBauer7personally i disagree. I am usually more of an Android person for my phones but for my tablets i've tried two Android tablets and finally bit the bullet and bought an iPad and it just thought out much better than the top of the line Android tablets i tried.
9:51 who do they mean by meidan? Can anyone explain it for me? I am not a native English speaker
Looks like Kip Dynamite found a job with LMG as a cameraman. Good for him.
$500 is steep? US has the cheaper price by far. UK start at £600 which is currently $762. And the 256GB version is nearly $900 (£700)!! Can you imagine if the marketing and reviews were actually talking about the prices in Europe? This would flop instantly.
Ltt, the lab analysis is sick. Love it
It doesn't look very good... then again I have a Samsung S8 Tab Ultra, so not much else does. But even as a cheap tablet it doesn't scream buy me. Jesus $500 starting price as well. How can a company who make the best mobile OS make such lack luster devices non-stop.
It would be better if a comparison is made with the best android tablet- the samsung tabs.
It makes no sense to portray pixel tablet as the return of android tablet, taking samsung has been keeping it alive for 9 generations now.
Sounded like it was gonna be a somewhat cheap tablet, but Its closer to 800 bucks here in Sweden...
Riley: ShortCircuit is a TH-cam channel.
Me: I would sure hope so!
I use a nest hub and this product is actually so close to being tempting for me. I think if they just added three more features (well, two features and change) then I would be breaking out a calculator to see if I could actually afford one. Without the following, I would be losing more than I would gain from upgrading.
1, I wouldn’t want to lose sleep sensing.
2, The microphones need to be front facing, not on the top.
3, The dock should double up as a Bluetooth speaker, if only for when the screen is disconnected.
Wish it had an 8 inch version. The world needs a good iPad mini competitor size-wise.
Is it me or did I see the camera man having a cheeky snooze around 9:00 ? 😅
Should have put an optical out / USB audio out on the base for an "audiophile" music source.
Back to back ryland. Hell yes. I know you work hard bro but thank you. I love your attutide.
Does this break just as easily as the pixel fold?
If you fold it, yeah.
@@claudiobizama5603 good point
I can see them doing this to have the mass market price point, and then later on release a pixel tablet pro max+™ that's compatible with the dock. they shouldve released the expensive one first though, if that's the case. i can also see them not making another tablet for the next 12 years
This is the pro version actually. They had a cheap version that was scrapped according to leaks.
Photos seemed oddly decent from what I see in the video
I love this tablet, the feel of it . Watching videos and writing notes
The dealbreaker for me was if the hub could be used as a media output for the tablet. Such a dumb, shortsighted decision that will result in landfills full of ewaste for no reason other than a slightly slightly slightly smaller initial cost.
"You're kid did something cool" You gotta love the optimism 😂
Does it offer the same stuff that Nest hub offers? Meaning can I use it in the Good morning routine, set a spaghetti timer, and also connect to other Google smart devices to make a group? Currently I have Google home and Nest Hub in a group to amplify the sound through my apartment. This for me is important as those connections are vital whether to I purchase it or not
I returned mine. The speaker quality on the base stand is not good. The tablet is slow and clunky. And many Android apps don't run on a tablet.
Should have been ChromeOS so you can use Linux features.
I knew it was a matter of time before Google realized their Nest speakers were just budget tablets strapped to a huge speaker.
The barrel style A/C power plug takes this product from a 8 to a solid 2
Chrome OS is a better tablet OS than Android. It's able to run android apps natively and has better multi window and multi user support. Android being mainly designed for smartphones is very lacking in those 2 areas, which are very common use cases for tablets. Not to mention Chrome OS has a desktop browser (TH-cam with adblock anyone?) and other desktop capabilities, like multi screen support.
might be ok to take travelling with you but at aud its like 800. bit rich for limited use plus you would have to drag the dock around with you.
Speakers would have a delay between the dock and tablet I think. Is there a way i can install this android on my nest hub max you think?
Aw come on. I was waiting for that sponsor at the end. Haha.
Yep, definitely expected Riley to do this one.
I don't know why, its clear he dislikes any android tablet that comes through him.
Assuming the price is to match I don't have an issue with the camera, mic and speakers.
The only recurring issue I have seen is the OS and processer being to slow and unusable.
8:09 someone's been watching their dankpods, huh?
can you charge it with normal usb-c? or it works only with the pogo pins to charge?
I feel like the only reason it has a barrel plug is so that you don't take the whole dock to another room where you may already have a USB-C plugged in, trying to push users towards buying a second dock.
I've noticed the microphone on every pixel I own sounds extremely quiet it's not just that tablet
Can an external SSD drive be connected to the USB C port like a pixel phone can?
Been waiting a while for this one
i would like to see google update the tablet to use the tablet speakers be tweeters and the dock speakers for mid's and bass . it still wouldn't sound great but it would definitely have a much better sound than what they currently have. this is actually a pretty good idea especially not with google assistant with bard coming. and possibly add some of the pixel excusive features like quick phrases and the great transcribing for messaging or email.
This is what, Google’s 6th or 7th tablet? Like there was the xoom (codeveloped with Motorola), nexus 7 2012 and 2013, nexus 10, nexus 9, and pixel slate. So whether you count the xoom or not (I do), it’s either the 6th or 7th gen tablet from Google.
And they still haven’t gotten it right.
I could see some people who have security cameras set up around their house housing this as a viewing deck to flip the camera around the building/house or just videos like the layout need to put more into it though.
I've recently noticed that ShortCircuit has never featured any HyperX products, is there something specific for why or just a coincidence? Their products are generally good and a great option for its prices.
Probably no really interesting products from HyperX
They really aren't tho. Sure, they are generally better than the other "gamer" BS around, but they are usually pretty bad for their prices.
@@GH0STST4RSCR34MHyperX is the gaming subbrand of Kingston (which was bought out by HP)
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M Not on every product, because they actually rebrand pretty decent products (mostly headphones), however they triple the price from the original. That's why people that never had a decent pair of headphones generally like Cloud II (Takstar Pro 80/82), Cloud Orbit S (Audeze Mobius), etc. They are usually competent, but they are VERY overpriced.
Why can't Google just make a good, reasonably priced Android tablet. Why do they keep trying to reinvent the wheel
Can you use it for like the max version before that security camera for the living room nobody answered yet it later I need an extra security camera
Just bought mine yesterday and I LOVE it so far!
I picked one of these up to replace my ancient Lenovo tablet and its great! Just like its designed to be it basically stays at home and I'll use it for reading, videos, internet etc. and I can side load all the apps I regularly use which I wouldnt have on a ipad. The dock makes it really great for watching a video in bed and stuff. If you are already using a tablet regularly like I was and looking for an upgrade but want to stick to android this is excellent. I recomend it.
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We got one for free by trading in an iPad from 2019. Other than the screen being very meh and the weirdness with the dock not being a speaker by itself, we really like it. I love how long it is, making for a nice e-reader
why not eq the sound when it's on the dock? LOL informative but a great amount of critical opinion. This was designed for a certain consumer which based on owner reviews and other pro reviews is a vast improvement and hits a sweet spot in the market