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what's the differences between normal 303fc and the force version of 303fc? Plus is there a newer 303fc this year? Looks like zipp made some updates to those wheels
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Why does Legion use the tubular version of the 353 and the 454 vs the tubeless version? is the tubeless version of the wheel not lighter and easier to work on with tires? is it just some riders still just prefer tubular wheels? Thanks,
Hi Kelsey. I don't believe the tubeless wheel is lighter than tubular, but I didn't look that up. They use both though and you nailed it, some of the riders just like the feel of tubular. A lot of track riders on the team and they are familiar with tubular.
I’m surprised you used a Tubular wheel as the NSW comparison when they make both in tubeless. Tubular is essentially dead, no? Also home mechanic can get used to Tubeless, but I’ve never touched tubular.
How much do you guys get in return for promoting specific brands, by the way im the black sheep i run reynolds assault wheels for racing and the attack for climbing
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I ride with latex tubes on a pair of old Zipp 202 Firecrest. I lose about 5 to 10 psi after 2 days (starting at 100 psi). So i pump up every 2 days. How can you imply you lose 30 to 40 psi over a 4 hours ride??? That means at the end of your ride you implied that you will have 40 psi (assuming you start at 80 psi).That's just an outtight lie - or you have a slow leak in your tub. Conti 5000s with latex tubes are the best combination - it rides like a tubular without the hassle of glue/tape or sealant. So i stay away from hookless.
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You're right. One of our mics broke so we tried to pick up audio off the others. It made it quiet :( We do have dedicated mics though! Watch some of our other videos
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If there warranty system works... I had a pair of yoeleo wheels and one rim just exploded when I pumped up a tube at just around 50 psi. As yoeleo said its not under warranty... I learned my lesson.
@@crack0n Yoeleo is not Winspace. Two completely different companies. Also, I don't care about any warranty. I can get 4 or 5 Winspace wheelsets for the price of those NSW's.
I guess it also depends on where you live and how much import fees you have to pay. I was choosing between new generation winspace or zipp 303 firecrest and after customs the difference between the two (zipps about 400€ cheaper than retail online now) is 200€ so it was a no brainer to go with zipp for warranty and resale value. I would really like to see brands like winspace succeed but the closer they get to mainstream brands in terms of warranty and marketing the closer the price gets as well, putting guys like me off
I have 303 S and 404 Firecrests.
The hub on Firecrests is SOOO much nice. Very quick to engage.
Firecrests are so nice!
Im running 303s for gravel in winter and road in summer. Great wheels
Nice 👍
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303 Firecrest for the win
what's the differences between normal 303fc and the force version of 303fc? Plus is there a newer 303fc this year? Looks like zipp made some updates to those wheels
What tire is on 404 firecrest shown in the video? 26c ou 28c? It seems quite an aero combination
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Why does Legion use the tubular version of the 353 and the 454 vs the tubeless version? is the tubeless version of the wheel not lighter and easier to work on with tires? is it just some riders still just prefer tubular wheels? Thanks,
Hi Kelsey. I don't believe the tubeless wheel is lighter than tubular, but I didn't look that up. They use both though and you nailed it, some of the riders just like the feel of tubular. A lot of track riders on the team and they are familiar with tubular.
I’m surprised you used a Tubular wheel as the NSW comparison when they make both in tubeless.
Tubular is essentially dead, no?
Also home mechanic can get used to Tubeless, but I’ve never touched tubular.
How much do you guys get in return for promoting specific brands, by the way im the black sheep i run reynolds assault wheels for racing and the attack for climbing
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I think they just get the wheels for free
I ride with latex tubes on a pair of old Zipp 202 Firecrest. I lose about 5 to 10 psi after 2 days (starting at 100 psi). So i pump up every 2 days. How can you imply you lose 30 to 40 psi over a 4 hours ride??? That means at the end of your ride you implied that you will have 40 psi (assuming you start at 80 psi).That's just an outtight lie - or you have a slow leak in your tub. Conti 5000s with latex tubes are the best combination - it rides like a tubular without the hassle of glue/tape or sealant. So i stay away from hookless.
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Not sure if you check your comments but the audio is really low. Would be good to get some dedicated microphones.
You're right. One of our mics broke so we tried to pick up audio off the others. It made it quiet :( We do have dedicated mics though! Watch some of our other videos
I ride the 404 firecrest ❤
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404 rim brake is better
Rim brake sucks, so old fashioned.
@@user-d32658 Did you just learn to bike this year ? lol
@@koukimonzta No, that’s why i can compare.
Just don't go zipp ... windspace is alot better and cheaper ;)
If there warranty system works... I had a pair of yoeleo wheels and one rim just exploded when I pumped up a tube at just around 50 psi. As yoeleo said its not under warranty... I learned my lesson.
@@crack0n Yoeleo is not Winspace. Two completely different companies. Also, I don't care about any warranty. I can get 4 or 5 Winspace wheelsets for the price of those NSW's.
I guess it also depends on where you live and how much import fees you have to pay. I was choosing between new generation winspace or zipp 303 firecrest and after customs the difference between the two (zipps about 400€ cheaper than retail online now) is 200€ so it was a no brainer to go with zipp for warranty and resale value. I would really like to see brands like winspace succeed but the closer they get to mainstream brands in terms of warranty and marketing the closer the price gets as well, putting guys like me off
@@Paganizondaf650 does zipp still offer a warranty for life ??
None!!! They are shockingly bad!!!