I am kinda sad cause I wanted to see venom and Eddie save Peter from knull and dr strange make everyone remember Peter (expect well the people who should not remember) I would wanna see that
To your point about two different actors playing Eddie and Venom. Tom Hardy did once play twin brothers and played them very distinctly different. His character acting is so good that I’ve never really thought about him playing both roles being a negative or monotone.
I think your right because I watch another reaction of the trailer when the first trailer came out and the captions they were using when that sentence came up said it was said by toxin
I think it’d be interesting if in Venom 3, its said that The Necrosword was thrown into another universe as too protect the universe from Knull, and thats why it just appears as a weapon of myth in the MCU with no clear history
@@Ragnorok657 those movies are great but they mean since Sony has more control when it comes to Venom, and we all know they aren't the best when it comes to superhero adaptations, let alone an anti-hero like Venom, but they've been doing well so far.
That is, if he is even in the movie. You never know with this Sony movies. Sometimes whole subplots or characters can be in the trailer but not in the final cut.
@@LHollanwhen universes overlap each other I think that’s what happening the venom universe mcu overlapping the Sony with leaving the baby symbiot in both universe
In the Comics, Venom is pretty much a Klyntarr Mutant. He was the first symbiote to to become self-conscious and has bonded with many races over the centuries. Maybe that's part of the reason Knull his hunting him.
@@roundtwoprod I feel like it doesn't make anyone wanna watch or buy prime lmao I think a banner in the bottom would be less intrusive and still get the point accross
As a fan of a few Venom comic series, I'm both excited and worried about Knull being in this movie. Sony has the innate ability to completely eff up both amazing characters and story lines.
LFG!!!! We Are Venom!!!! Addendum - Disagree on your soapbox concerns on Tom Hardy voicing Venom and the emotional impact the 3rd film might have if they have to sacrifice their bond.
the idea that the Xenophage calculated the trajectory of the plane and jumped to it to find venom is beyond absurd. it was probably just hiding on the plane.
Yes a being the size of a dump truck was "hiding" on a plane full of people and no1 notice? I'll take calculating the trajectory story everyday over some monster the size of someone's 3 car garage HIDING on a damn plane.
The next film should be agent venom. The last dance refers to Tom Hardy. They'll use flash Thompson. Knull could be a multi film plan if they do it right.
I love the idea that some cosmic force bound Knull and the symbiotes to the venomverse and this movie is the start of Knull figuring out how to escape. We all want to see Venom and Knull in the MCU and if the story plays with this topic it could very well happen with secret wars coming up. Setting Knull up as the big bad for the spidey films for years.
They should make knull a vision, like stark's vision in age of Ultron. The captured venom piece should go on to be agent venom, and they should introduce toxin, antivenom, etc. Make knull a future villain. But knowing Sony they'll go for it and ruin it
apparently the creators of knull did not know that sony was gunna use knull in venom 3, until after the trailer, which is kind of scummy of sony to use the character before even talking to the creators about it let alone getting permission, now they are asking to be paied so sony probably gunna try to avoid paying them and dropping knull, unless they actually accept that and agree to pay them
@@jcsbck cuz while connected to the symbiotes, knull might not be included as he is a newer creation and is just as much if not more a cosmic character than just a spiderman related character, so is a different case than say someone like venom or the sinister six
I think they’ve somewhat retconned the venom logo now to be representing knull’s dragon and it just so happens to look like a spider logo, I think at least (not entirely sure)
So I liked your ideas for how Venom might come to have the white logo added to his symbiote body but I just couldn’t really see how they could or would make very much sense. But what if he attaches and or also kills one of the xenophages and since they carry such danger specifically to symbiotes and their appearance with multiple legs and stuff would somewhat resemble the classic white logo it could be graphed to Venom in that way as like a badge of honor for destroying one of these shadow beast symbiote hunters? Could be way wrong too, and I honestly wish it would have came about the comic book way from attaching to Spidey first but this way I hypothesized seems like it could hold enough meaning to make the physical transformation occur in this universe. Can’t wait for this movie is drop!
NOT....quite. Read Venom Wars. Venom has near-perfect bonds with both Eddie and Dylan (Eddie's son). And a purely symbiotic partnership with Peter Parker at the moment as he's protecting the symbiote from the fight.
Tom Cruise is universe 688's MCU's Ironman. An MCU owned by 688's Robert Downey Jr who is soon going to be a variant of 616's Doom. As Doom connects between the 616 and 688, Knull offers the symbiotes as a way to strengthen the connection and to move into the vibrant MCU
Because Venom left a piece of himself in the MCU, that is probably why Knull is after Venom. It also might have something to do with Knull's purpose in his experiments creating symbiotes. Maybe he wants to get to the MCU to retrieve his sword :)
Venom might get the logo from Knull directly somehow. Knull has an insignia on his own chest. Maybe Knull will absorb Venom somehow and Eddie somehow breaks them apart leading to Venom getting his classic mark on his chest. Also, it will be interesting to see if the rumors are true that Venom will appear in future films but done with the solo films and how. he is used.
To think that if this same movie happened when the comics were at a very specific point it would have been about venom being the marvel version of green lantern/blue beetle and would likely have been called "Agent Venom"
i assume the reason that venom shushes eddy when he reiterates kneel as knull, is cuz they are likely going with the whole saying a god's name draws their attention
I love venoms character more than any other marvel character and have loved both previous movies and I am so sad that this movie will be the last time we see them until Tim Hollander gets one
4:07 I feel like they tried to escape the Zeno by hopping a plane, and the Zeno was on the bottom of the plane chasing them only to reveal itself once they thought they were safe. Rather than jumping 30k feet
In my opinion, I like how Tom Hardy does both Venom and Eddie. I think he brings such amazing interpretations and takes on each character. A true testament to his talent as an actor. Similar to Oscar Isaac embodying the different personas of Moon Knight. They are Venom. They are Tom Hardy!
Those white symbiotes shown in Knulls chambers could be Venoms that were partly separated like in No Way Home or Venom 2 end credits. I don’t what that would mean other than Knulls been hunting Venom for a while now.
Join Erik for an extended discussion about Venom, Knull, and Sony's plans on The Breakroom channel: th-cam.com/video/xseeslIaQQA/w-d-xo.html
Javier Bardem
TOXIN IS SAYING THAT NOT KNULL AND NORMAN REEDUS IS PLAYING KNULL
@@adzriel21001 no sorry it's Norman reedus
I was waiting for knull and here he is
I am kinda sad cause I wanted to see venom and Eddie save Peter from knull and dr strange make everyone remember Peter (expect well the people who should not remember) I would wanna see that
To your point about two different actors playing Eddie and Venom. Tom Hardy did once play twin brothers and played them very distinctly different. His character acting is so good that I’ve never really thought about him playing both roles being a negative or monotone.
I think the "As long as Venom lives, everything will end" line is actually said by Toxin.., seeing as its played during a shot of Mulligan.
I think your right because I watch another reaction of the trailer when the first trailer came out and the captions they were using when that sentence came up said it was said by toxin
Yea he exactly. The same quote was said in the first trailer and if u put the captions on it shows TOXIN: then the sentence he says
Yeah they goofed on that one
💯
Me too
I think it’d be interesting if in Venom 3, its said that The Necrosword was thrown into another universe as too protect the universe from Knull, and thats why it just appears as a weapon of myth in the MCU with no clear history
These bits of lore could be done so well if they tried. I really hope they do say something like this.
real question is who was strong enough to even get it from him and have enough time to throw it into a whole other universe
That's a great scenario
"The Will Smith treatment" 🤣
The Venom horse may be the coolest thing I've seen
You haven't seen venom wolverine then
I was in a death metal band called Xenophage, because of the comics!
Sick, I love Death Metal ❤
Where ya from? Used to be in a band called morgAtory
@@M0RGAT0RY Texas!
@@LeftHandedRightHanded 🤘
You were what happened you guys broke up? Like the Beatles?
In Swedish. “Knull” literally means to do the four letter F word…..it’s going to be an extremely interesting translation for us swedes. 😂😂😂
Never knew that
Sony is gonna Knull up Knull
3b
Knulla systemeeeeeeet
Don't think names need translation😅
PLEASE don't bait us again, Sony...
Agree
How many times you guys gotta get let down to learn
Somehow, they messed with Morbius and Madame Web, but they can't mess up Venom or Spider-Verse
They are masters at it...
If you're familiar with Avi arad and his work in TASM2 and Morbius
Then you can expect the worst with this movie
These venom movies are the only redeemable thing we have gotten from the sony spider associated universe. Tom hardy plays a major role in that imo.
Yeah they aren't the best movies ever but I always really enjoyed them
That's called damning with faint praise
@DatBoiGloomy so what the spiderverse movies don't count?
Kiiiinda cheesey for the venom movies
@@Ragnorok657 those movies are great but they mean since Sony has more control when it comes to Venom, and we all know they aren't the best when it comes to superhero adaptations, let alone an anti-hero like Venom, but they've been doing well so far.
I’m super interested to see what they do with Knull. Hopefully not just a one-off villain
That is, if he is even in the movie. You never know with this Sony movies. Sometimes whole subplots or characters can be in the trailer but not in the final cut.
I want something like in comics where knull covers the earth in symbiote that would be awsome
@@Alejandroigarabide you think they would make the whole trailer about knull just for knull to not be in the movie...
@@soft_surge I absolutely do
@@soft_surge You watch the Morbius trailers?
It should be noted that the beheaded Celestial IS Knowhere in the comics, just not in the MCU.
The only reason I know this is from the Tell Tale Guardians of The Galaxy game.
Thought that was where the Gaurdians lived in the MCU and is mentioned too?
But he must be somewhere
It's not a Canon anymore I guess
@@StevenLewis-y3qThey are saying that in the comics Knowhere was beheaded by Knull while in the MCU Knowhere was beheaded by something else
Can't wait for this movie! I really wanna see Knull's design.
10:40 that’s Toxin’s voice not Knull’s
Yea he trippin
No
@@alexcarillo8344yes
@@alexcarillo83440/10 rage bait
Not toxin
venoms travel across the multiverse could have caused an incursion
What do you mean?
@@LHollanwhen universes overlap each other I think that’s what happening the venom universe mcu overlapping the Sony with leaving the baby symbiot in both universe
Doesn't symbiote also exist in the 1st spiderman movie so it is not only confined to this universe
Good point
Your venom impression at 4:24 was spot on 😂🔥
AGREE Bruh that caught me off guard thats so accurate
I got such a giggle from it hahaha
In the Comics, Venom is pretty much a Klyntarr Mutant. He was the first symbiote to to become self-conscious and has bonded with many races over the centuries. Maybe that's part of the reason Knull his hunting him.
The rings of power promo is throwing me off 😂😂😂
It fr should go away after a bit not be there the whole video
@@Blueishbunny2296 let them get the bag lol it threw me off too tho seeing it the second time
@@roundtwoprod I feel like it doesn't make anyone wanna watch or buy prime lmao I think a banner in the bottom would be less intrusive and still get the point accross
they work hard. let them have the easy money to be able to work harder
Venom saying “Jesus Christ” in surprise will always be one of the funniest scenes I’ve ever seen. 🤣🤣🤣
As a fan of a few Venom comic series, I'm both excited and worried about Knull being in this movie. Sony has the innate ability to completely eff up both amazing characters and story lines.
LFG!!!! We Are Venom!!!!
Addendum - Disagree on your soapbox concerns on Tom Hardy voicing Venom and the emotional impact the 3rd film might have if they have to sacrifice their bond.
the idea that the Xenophage calculated the trajectory of the plane and jumped to it to find venom is beyond absurd. it was probably just hiding on the plane.
Yes a being the size of a dump truck was "hiding" on a plane full of people and no1 notice? I'll take calculating the trajectory story everyday over some monster the size of someone's 3 car garage HIDING on a damn plane.
Eddie and Venom will survive and leave Earth to save it form Knull and leave it for MCU universe for Secret Wars, dayumnnn
that would be smart
The next film should be agent venom. The last dance refers to Tom Hardy. They'll use flash Thompson. Knull could be a multi film plan if they do it right.
No one wants to see the MCU Flash as anything
I hope this is as good as it looks!
Toxin is actually the one that said as long as Venom lives, everything will end
how can you tell? it makes more sense for it to be toxin i agree , just curious how you can tell?
@@retzhbbIf you watch the first official trailer on Marvel Studios TH-cam channel the closed captions tell it was Toxin
@@retzhbb because toxin was on the scene?
How I took it is that Knull was speaking through Toxin, kinda like possession.
I love the idea that some cosmic force bound Knull and the symbiotes to the venomverse and this movie is the start of Knull figuring out how to escape. We all want to see Venom and Knull in the MCU and if the story plays with this topic it could very well happen with secret wars coming up. Setting Knull up as the big bad for the spidey films for years.
Airplane reference with the drink to the face? lol
This is how they get to the back to 616 somehow..
Knull looks amazing 😊 and I love venom and eddie relationship.
They should make knull a vision, like stark's vision in age of Ultron. The captured venom piece should go on to be agent venom, and they should introduce toxin, antivenom, etc. Make knull a future villain.
But knowing Sony they'll go for it and ruin it
From what I understand knull isn't the main villian of this movie as he is probably on another planet if not another universe
@@Ragnorok657 who is the main villain ?
@@retzhbb no idea maybe a Grendel(a symbiote dragon)?
@@Ragnorok657either Lasher or Toxin actually.
@@petrenicolae3282 Yeah most likely I was just hoping for a symbiote dragon 😋
OHHH! I seriously can’t wait for this damn movie!!!! So excited for it! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
There might be a possibility that knull could be in secret wars. I wonder how that's gonna play out with the Avengers.
Also he does have connections to billy(wiccan) and hulking (the king of space ) in the comics😮😮
Sadly no one cares
@@Ragnorok657 true😔😔😔
Maybe Venom is that universe's Anchor Being. Not Eddie, Venom.
Just stop with the whole "Anchor" character lmfao it was a random plot thrown in DP3
Tom Hardy's Brock and Venom deserve to be written into an MCU project.
Im impressed they kept all this under wraps until a month before release. Wish this would happen more often.
Omg right! When I originally got notification for the trailer, I assumed next year like March. I was so excited to see OCT
knowing sony and their track record, This is gonna bomb as well
15:44 The Will Smith treatment is WILD 😭🙏
how does tom cruise do this??!!!😂
Dr Connors was a medic at St Martin Hospital
The one that said as long as venom lives, everyone everything will end is actually toxin warning them about knull
15:18 “venom tendrils around his neck” yep those are definitely “tendrils and not a CHAIN😂
mans seems to be slightly falling off
apparently the creators of knull did not know that sony was gunna use knull in venom 3, until after the trailer, which is kind of scummy of sony to use the character before even talking to the creators about it let alone getting permission, now they are asking to be paied so sony probably gunna try to avoid paying them and dropping knull, unless they actually accept that and agree to pay them
Why would Sony need permission? They can use any spiderman/venom character they want
@@jcsbck cuz while connected to the symbiotes, knull might not be included as he is a newer creation and is just as much if not more a cosmic character than just a spiderman related character, so is a different case than say someone like venom or the sinister six
You guys are 🔥 great energy and compared to another channel feel the know
I think they’ve somewhat retconned the venom logo now to be representing knull’s dragon and it just so happens to look like a spider logo, I think at least (not entirely sure)
The xenophage looks like a tyrannid from warhammer
I thought it looked a lot like the aliens from Tomorrow War at first glance.
@@brixen0623 it does kind of look like the white spikes
He is not Cat Stevens anymore, he changed his name to Sami Yusuf
I think if Reedus is Knull then Hollywood is nailing the casting choices this year
I was literally all day waiting for this! 🕷
No you wasn't lmfao, You simply scrolled through YT and seen it
@@DatBoiChris420 because that's what you do. stop exposing yourself, you're just embarrassing yourself dude. lmfao
I actually gambled at a casino for a school night, and the next day, boom, the trailer for the movie came out. 😁😁😁😆😆😆😆
Ooookkkayyy annnnnnnnnd no one cares
@@DatBoiChris420@DatBoiChris420, jeez, it was funny to me.
They let you gamble on school nights ?
@@gamingposeidon1645 yes they did in college.
0:19 to get to earth? Or get to NYC?
Fr
Loved your take on the acolyte!! Nothing but credibility here
KNULL IS COMING !!! I love cates and stegmans venom run!
"The Will Smith treatment!" Priceless EVoss, Magnificent!👏👏
great video, thank you :)
They were sent to E-1999999 at first and back to E-688 where spot was in across the spiderverse
What is E-1999999?
@@TheGodOfEbic Earth 1999999 is our universe
@@tevinhoward4419 Nah it's the MCU
@TheGodOfEbic it's the mcu
Not covering the kid in red and blue siting beside Eddie in the van is certainly a choice...
Time stamp ?
@@Juxie27 16:38
Norman Reedus is playing Knull and I for one is buzzing!!!🤪
So I liked your ideas for how Venom might come to have the white logo added to his symbiote body but I just couldn’t really see how they could or would make very much sense. But what if he attaches and or also kills one of the xenophages and since they carry such danger specifically to symbiotes and their appearance with multiple legs and stuff would somewhat resemble the classic white logo it could be graphed to Venom in that way as like a badge of honor for destroying one of these shadow beast symbiote hunters? Could be way wrong too, and I honestly wish it would have came about the comic book way from attaching to Spidey first but this way I hypothesized seems like it could hold enough meaning to make the physical transformation occur in this universe. Can’t wait for this movie is drop!
Venom’s tongue reminds me of my Boxer pups 😂
venom the last dance is gonna be lit can't wait to see knull. you have to wonder who be playing knull
I dont quit know how this could be what knull wants, but in this universe Venom and Eddie are perfectly bonded so maybe that could be what he wants
NOT....quite. Read Venom Wars. Venom has near-perfect bonds with both Eddie and Dylan (Eddie's son). And a purely symbiotic partnership with Peter Parker at the moment as he's protecting the symbiote from the fight.
Call John wick if knull comes to earth
I was waiting for this one
Tom Cruise is universe 688's MCU's Ironman. An MCU owned by 688's Robert Downey Jr who is soon going to be a variant of 616's Doom. As Doom connects between the 616 and 688, Knull offers the symbiotes as a way to strengthen the connection and to move into the vibrant MCU
Venom shooshing Eddie saying Knull is hilarious. I cannot wait for Venom 3
You.. you do know that was Toxin talking, not Knull right?
I think the "As long as Venom lives, everything will end" line is actually said by Toxin.
This was the best comic book trailer in 3 years
This movie has to redeem Venom 2 and also not go too hard with the jokes
their "jokes" never go hard bud.. it's almost always lame.
@@doomsday24that’s not what they said
Because Venom left a piece of himself in the MCU, that is probably why Knull is after Venom. It also might have something to do with Knull's purpose in his experiments creating symbiotes. Maybe he wants to get to the MCU to retrieve his sword :)
Knull being in the Sonyverse but not the MCU is criminal. The MCU set him up way better than Sony has so far
Not gonna lie, i never thought about the fact that venom is voiced by Tom until you mentioned it
Based on the profile and the vocal inflection, it almost sounds like Javier Bardem playing Knull.
Venom might get the logo from Knull directly somehow. Knull has an insignia on his own chest. Maybe Knull will absorb Venom somehow and Eddie somehow breaks them apart leading to Venom getting his classic mark on his chest. Also, it will be interesting to see if the rumors are true that Venom will appear in future films but done with the solo films and how. he is used.
To think that if this same movie happened when the comics were at a very specific point it would have been about venom being the marvel version of green lantern/blue beetle and would likely have been called "Agent Venom"
i assume the reason that venom shushes eddy when he reiterates kneel as knull, is cuz they are likely going with the whole saying a god's name draws their attention
What’s crazy is they were just filming parts of this movie in front of my job like 2 months ago
17:35 nope they didn’t feel like that , some of us didnt even know that he voices Venom yet we still connected
Honestly, the films haven’t made me care enough about these two to make care enough about separating 😔
Nice video
Not the Will Smith treatment 😂🤣😂🤣😂💀💀💀💀
"They made us spit Venom
Then
WE ARE VENOM"
- straight from comics
I love venoms character more than any other marvel character and have loved both previous movies and I am so sad that this movie will be the last time we see them until Tim Hollander gets one
10:50 I dont know but just the profile gives me Javier Bardem vibes
Maybe they'll make Dane Whitman's sword the one Knull made, since it did seem to have symbiote qualities when he went to touch it.
4:07 I feel like they tried to escape the Zeno by hopping a plane, and the Zeno was on the bottom of the plane chasing them only to reveal itself once they thought they were safe. Rather than jumping 30k feet
The "kneel" proximity isn't by design. The "null' homonym is tough
I think you might have high hopes on Sony and their think tanks.. lets just hope the movie makes sense.
I have never had a problem with Tom Hardy voicing both venom and Eddie
In my opinion, I like how Tom Hardy does both Venom and Eddie. I think he brings such amazing interpretations and takes on each character. A true testament to his talent as an actor. Similar to Oscar Isaac embodying the different personas of Moon Knight. They are Venom. They are Tom Hardy!
Maxi Priest did a nice rendition of "wild World" also 😊
What's with the Amazon billboard!?
I hope this movie is as good as it looks❤❤❤
Green Room break down, you gotta do it!
Those white symbiotes shown in Knulls chambers could be Venoms that were partly separated like in No Way Home or Venom 2 end credits. I don’t what that would mean other than Knulls been hunting Venom for a while now.
It wasn’t knull saying “as long as venom lives, everything will end” in the closed captioning it said toxin
What if Kurt Russel is the Nick Fury of this universe and tries to recruit this venom to the Sony avengers
Fun fact the “spider logo” on knull is actually a dragon