Why Grand Prix 4 is the Best Racing Game of All Time
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- rFactor2, iRacing and Assetto Corsa Competizione will be more realistic and look better, but they miss so many things that made Grand Prix 4 so good.
Maybe, one day, we will have something that takes what GP4 had, and expands on it.
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"a game 20 years ago could do it, why can't you?" The answer is actually pretty simple; they don't feel like it
Too busy adding pixels to the billboards
@@DjDolHaus86 All the fluff is more important in the marketing meeting.
@@DjDolHaus86 Fanatec billboards to be exact.
Adam, you're not wrong. For the last decade or so the focus of big game companies hasn't been on making great games, it's been making shareholders and investors happy.
This is also why there’s been such a downfall of FIFA and Madden etc. Game companies just don’t give a fuck anymore. Indies do and it shows in the indie game market.
Fun fact about Revs - he needed more memory for that game than the BBC Micro had, so he used memory in the video processor by storing game data in the sky, and tricking it into showing it as blue. If the game crashed, the sky would be replaced with garbage.
Storing data in the cloud before it was cool.
"Garbage"? is that American for rubbish?
@@user-qb1sm3rk9r I think so, but not sure.
Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix series was and still is the greatest F1 simulation ever produced. Grand Prix 2, which was the game of my childhood, was phenomenal. I'm sad he stopped at 4. If they could produce that 25 years ago, imagine what they could do now
One of the things I remember most about Grand Prix 3/4 was when I was racing at Indianapolis and had a spin while i was trying to pass someone at the beginning of the innerloop and I couldn't figure out what happened until I watched the replay and noticed the marbles alongside the racing line and realized that's what caused me to spin.
I do not agree. Steering assist with keyboard was awful. In all other sims it is possible to race with keyboard (although, yes, it seems not the best input device), but here - totally unenjoyable. Indycar Racing II at the time was better.
Depends what you mean by simulation. For example, IIRC, the mechanical damage was still just random numbers and if you saved your game in the middle of a race and you later had an engine failure, the engine failure would occur at the same time if you loaded that save.
They didn't stop developing at 4. There was a Grand Prix 5, but due to changes at Microsoft the project was stopped and it was never released. :(
GP2! What a game! Loved editing the Simtek team name and drivers to form my own team - then when the races were on and you took control of various cars in the field, using them as kamikaze Coulthards to take each other out so my drivers and team could progress up the order to the points positions. Erik Comas, Ukyo Katayama and Michele Alboreto were my fave human F1 driver missiles 😎
I remember setting Grand Prix 4 to zero drivers and just watching the AI do a full race. In TV mode. It was great to watch.
I did that often as well.
Did a full season like that - Montoya won the championship
Used to love doing that! Shame you can't on modern games, it just feels somehow lazy of modern developers to not include features that were in a game that's 20+ years old
Before learning how to play i did that when i was a kid
I did that with the B-spec mode in GT4 when I was younger. I was terrible at the game, but I enjoyed watching the cars go around. It’s easy to see that as cheating, but there is an element of challenge in a few slim cases.
I am the author of ZaZ Tools (CSM/TSM/Slimtex/Easywad) and I am amazed still game is still going. I've spent many hours developing and investigating this game, helping mod builders, adding new features and stuff like that. There still was much nice stuff in the pipeline, but I have never finished it because time wasn't my best friend. Nonetheless, it warms my heart to see the game is still loved and that my work became a small part of it. So thank you all for making it worth all the effort and sorry for not delivering the stuff I've teased you with
SkaningeN from GPG.org here. Just wanted to say thank you for all you've done :)
@@ericb3593 it's been ages since I last logged into gpg.org, happy to see it still keeping up
@@ericb3593 Stop spamming.
@@hashico Stop spamming.
@@atlantic_love Posting a few answers and commenting on a video is not spamming. Stop whining
GP4 and GPL, all a man needs!
oh hi there
GPL: .1% racing, 99.9% swearing at the computer screen.
RBR for the rallying side of things
Wait, does this mean we might one day see a junior axelson racing the ‘01 season?
@@ddt3619 still the toughest racing game ever 😃
The NR2003 of F1 games
I'd say it's the other way around given NR2003 was released a year after Grand Prix 4.
Same with Richard Burns Rally
Man that still holds up realllly well. I love it
The GTR2 of NR2003 of F1 games
@@gt5man21 come on...GP3/4 physics were embarassing, if there even was some physics engine in that game, that was like running on rails. Papyrus's engine for N2003 was a huge improvement over the already good one they used in 2002 and 4, and that was already a massive improvement of the Grand Prix Legends one. People should stop living in the past. GP1 & 2 were great because with them Crammond tried something really new and innovative and pushed the hardware to their limit (the first one with the Amiga and the second with pc), the other two were simply made for the money counting on the Crammond fanboys. There may have been few good ideas here and there but the games were awful and on the arcade side. And these people are probably the same that say that Iracing is still better than sims like AC or ACC. Seriously? Leave all the online service aside and talk about the game engine: it's the same one I was talking about before, simply improved over and over but with its obvious limits, some bugs still here after more than twenty years. Sims like ACC are objectively on another planet in terms of physics, literally, and are still improving update after update.
I've still got my copy of Grand Prix 2 that was given to me for christmas in 1996.
Ditto
I still have my copy somewhere too I think.
I still have a copy of GP2 also
EDIT: can we admit that we like these mainly because of the into to GP2?
The gameplay was awesome and the engine was brilliant ... but that wailing of a V10/12 opening to the fisheye shot of the pit crew at the end of the GP2 intro ... we were never going to leave.
I endorse this video completely ... though it’s only this year that graphics cards have caught up with Geoff Crammonds vision :)
Long time listener.. first time caller :)
Thank you 😁
The bad part of GP3 and GP4 really is the scene rendering engine and the demand it has on the CPU, not the demand on GPUs.
Even on my 4.5 GHz Haswell, GP4 is still showing 20-35% CPU usage at 60 fps, while my GPU is hardly breaking a sweat, not even reaching its base clock.
The fact the framerate still had to be fixed manually is indicative of how old the tech in that engine actually was, parts of it probably dating back to 1991.
Gp2 intro was good and provided immediate immersion but as Aiden mentioned, the bass intro and song from gp1 (world circuit in some countries) together with the semi-3d modeling of the intro was one of the best i have seen to this day. Still revisit the Midi file of the intro sometimes.
@@gfs5551 One thing I also loved in GP2 was the background music in the menus.
@@Olivyay yup. That guitar is still in my mind
The GP3 intro is unbeatable, one of my earliest childhood memories.
Crammond made F1 sims possible, there is no doubt it the landscape would look a lot different without those games.
The trouble is, the licensed games today are like bubblegum, they just don't have the depth and immersion. Totally agree on the Ai and wet weather drying lines etc, most games don't even have that now.
GP2 was the game that for me was the one that stood out as it was modified to the nth degree, I even ended up designing heaps of tracks for it, misspent youth!
Never forget trying to get as much air off another cars wheel while at 300+ km/h at Hockenheim in GP2 back in 1995.
Grand Prix 4, one of my favorite features is the "Hotseat" feature. You would typically use this as a form of multiplayer on a single system where one player gets to drive for a set period of time, then there's a countdown before the AI takes the car back over, it switches to the next car in line, the next player would sit down, take control and continue driving. The interesting thing for me about this feature is not that, however. It's that if you wanted to, you could control BOTH cars on a team. If you are Ferrari, you would one second be trying to grow your gap, and when you switch cars, you're now focused on trying to catch back up. You can control EVERY car on the track this way, or you can control a couple select teams if you want(Ferrari vs McLaren). It cycles through the field based on qualifying order of the cars you have selected, and as it cycles through the field, there's NEVER a shortage of things to do. It's not like some modern racing games where you get out front and you just check out. No, one second you're in the lead by 7 seconds, next second you're in third fighting Montoya in a very intense battle for P2.
And to add to this, my favorite thing I used to do with this game was to use Hotseat to control all the cars on the track in a 100% distance race. There is ALWAYS something going on. It was the most fun I'd ever had with a racing game since the Gran Turismo 2 days and when I was finally able to first get on NR2003. Nothing came close to it. It was amazing how such a simple feature, something that most people probably haven't even used on this game, added so much more to it for me.
Shout out to the GP4 OC that's been going on for 5 straight Physical years!
One of the things I miss most from GP4 is the great telemetry graphs. Helped setting up the car so much.
The original Grand Prix was amazing, cutting corners at San Marino, Canada and Germany to save 30 seconds per lap was hilarious
ok... LOL whatever turns you on!
In the old f1 games melbourne was paradise for that
Thats some quality immersion right there!
@@hanklancaster3532 The best was Belgium were the barriers were just there for show and you could drive through them
@@MrSniperfox29 Sounds like you're just making fun of the game.,
“A game 20 years ago can, why can’t you
1 it doesn’t make them money
2 they don’t fucking care. Muh 8k ray traced 60000 gig textures make money even though less than 1% of users will ever be able to use. Yet can’t even be bothered to make it an OPTIONAL download
Preach
Now EA is set to ruin codemasters with loads of 'micro'transactions it is THE time for a Grand Prix 5.
I feel like I have been asleep my whole life and now I'm waking up. I never had a PC to play games on growing up so slept on this series (I was a Psygnosis boy) but now I need all of them in my life. Awesome video!
It does amaze me how the 22 car limit is hard coded into the game.
I lived for these games in the 90's! Never knew they carried on into the 00's. Amazing
Yep I remember Grand Prix, I had it on the Atari ST and my friends had it on the Amiga we used to practice all week and then on a Friday we would take our settings on the floppy disc to our friend's house to race while having a drink that was in the early 90s what a game
A fantastic series of games. Loved Grand Prix 3. I’ve been crying out for proper car failures on the Codemasters games forever. Adds extra realism.
Cars don't really fail much these days
@@micsunday14 tell that to Charles
@@lucasbailey8878 lmao ahahha
I loved Grand Prix 2 and thanks to the modding community I played it for four years straight. I remember downloading all the tobacco and non tobacco car sets from 1990 through 1995 and playing all those seasons.
Old enough to remember when Revs came out. My still good friend to this day had a BEEB, and I was amazed how great this game was.
Grand Prix on my Amiga though, *chefs kiss*
.. until you played Grand Prix on even the most basic PC. We had a 386 laptop with a greyscale LCD screen at work and it gave probably double (if not more) the FPS and a textured road surface that really pumped up the illusion of speed even on that shite display.
A great series of games though. I happily have 5 boxed copies sat looking at me now.. GP1 Amiga, GP1 ST, GP2 to 4.
If the aliens wanted to put my body in a tub of goo to make electricity they wouldn't have to wire my brain to anything as complex as The Matrix.. SVGA GP2 will do just fine :)
Thanks for covering this. These we some of my favourite games. I remember buying GP1 at a shop in Crawley and the thrill of playing it for the first time on my Amiga.
GP2 and GP4 was so much fun. The nice thing about it is that you can just as easily play it with a keyboard and it was still fun, which is really nice if you didn’t want to get a wheel.
If keyboard players are pleased with this game, that tells me alot about the quality of its handling and physics model.
Rose tinted glasses guys.
@@hansolo631 keyboard had an automatic steering assist, it guided the car around the corner for you. It may sound lame when I explained it like that, but it's better than it sounds.
I still play grand prix 4 from time to time and I'm still impressed with the level of the AI.
where can i download it?
Best AI ever...not even close
AI in modern F1 games is retarded and takes you out for no reason...
After 20 years iv just brought it from Amazon
Got this when it was released, fell in love with GC GP series after the 1st one.
So many wonderful memories. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
One of my favourite things in GP2 was setting opponents to "All the Same," then instead of Schumi and Hill, you would end up with a front row of Eric Comas and Jean Paul Belmondo!
Played all of them. Used to do hotlaps and then save them to a 3.5" floppy to give to my mate who'd take it home and try and beat my time. They were awesome games and nothing has really replaced them. Cheers for this Aidan, a nice walk down memory lane.
Got this for my birthday yesterday the timing really is immaculate
It's unbelievable how little computer games truly improved in the last twenty years.
@Peters6221 gamers judge a book by the cover. They want shiny graphics so that’s what the companies work most on and will judge a game just off the graphics alone. When I’m streaming rf2 stuff I get so many “the graphics look bad” comments.
The players are probably as much to blame as the companies.
Oh come on man. The physics have made a huge step up. I don't think it's fair to say this. Play acc. The detail is amazing
@@utkarshchaurasia2233 That is true, but only because physics is kinda ACCs selling point (along with the graphics).
What about other parts of the game? Career mode, championship, AI,...? It took them years to implement multiclass racing and even that not with all cars,... With the spreading of multiplayer gaming a lot of development of parts of the games we used to take for granted kinda took a back seat.
I always say, take a game form 2000 and compare its graphics to a game from 2020. Do you really think all the other elements take make a great game (physics, AI, sound, career mode, gameplay, game features...) went through the same level of development as the graphics did? I would say in many of those aspects we even went backwards.
Not all games, gotta look deep into the real gems
Some genres are lazier than others. Try and play an FPS on a console from 20 years ago. They're horrendous now!
Bravo!! Absolutely agree with your thoughts, and wish someone would show this video to all of the modern studios that are making sims.
I played Revs, GP and GP2 many fantastic memories of these games
REVs was a decade better than it had any right to be. Amazing game.
Gran Turismo creator Kazunori Yamauchi said in an interview 20 years ago when promoting Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec that GP2 was his most favorite racing sim. He even said "Can you even imagine they create a sequel (to Grand Prix 2)? It would be the perfect racing game!" High praise from the person which I consider to be my god.
I remember playing Microprose F1 on a friend's Amiga in the early 90s and being blown away by how good it was. I had an after school / Saturday job at a local supermarket that paid £18 a week and I saved for what seemed like an eternity to afford an Amiga 1200 (£400) purely so i could play Microprose F1. That said, Sensible World of Soccer got a fair amount of play as well.
The Jimmy vod you mentioned in this video actually appeared on the top of my feed the day after watching this :D
I'm 38 and started my sim racing on Grand Prix 1 and then played Grand Prix 2 until the CD nearly melted in the disc drive! haha.
The Grand Prix 2 game was so awesome and it was kept alive by modding for me until the late 90s, when my PC just couldn't cope with new games like GP3. I owe my sim racing hobby today entirely to my time playing GP2 as a teenager.
Carlos Sanchez from Grand Prix still sticks in my mind from my copy for the Amiga. Such a great sim for the day.
I played GTR2 alot when I was younger and I recently rediscovered my love for the game and its still going now due to mods I love it.
Played through all of them, started with GP1 in 1994 I believe. Amazing games! And that realism and immersiveness that you were getting even playing on keyboard are just unbeatable. Smallest changes to the car setup actually matter there and you feel them even without racing wheel
Was deffo the best ! great video, brought back happy memories :)
Great video! I love the game, I used to make fantasy liveries for it, It was a blast
The golden era of gaming
one of my favorite memories is doing ralf's special move at indianapolis and splitting the car in half, there's nothing like the surprise of seeing your own gearbox while still in the car for the first time
Oh man, my first PC game - F29 retaliator, second - Grand Prix 1 on six diskettes and you'd switch them in the right order during unpacking of the archive, so it'd fit on 6 diskettes. Grand Prix 2 was my first CD-ROM. Played 3rd installment many years after it came out and 4 during college years with too little time and too much nostalgia. Still best racing games ever. Excellent video, Aidan !
What is more incredible is GP2. GP4 “only” updates graphics and introduces rain, but all the features in GP4 are also present in GP2, a DOS game from 1996, including the amazing AI
yup, GP2 was my start too. nice vid! :)
This is the first time I'm hearing of this and *oh dear lord this sounds amazing!!!!*
Grand Prix 2 is where I got my start with sim racing. I'll never forget the first day I had it. I remember it would always tell you how long you had been playing when you exited back to DOS. I played on that first day for something like eight straight hours.
I still have Grand Prix 2, 3 and 4. Not played GP4 for many years, I'll have to try it again.. Thanks for the reminder..
I still play GP4, and play a season alongside my 9-year old son, who says it's his favourite game. 10 turns each on a 50% race distance. Gutted I lost my copy of ultimate gear ratios per track a few years back - not been able to find them online since.
Ahhh the good old day's....
Played all 4.
Still got parts 2, 3 and 4 in my archive.
GP2 was awesome! The first time I took eau rouge flat, I cut the car in half I was stunned and addicted!
I remember playing GP3 as a 4-5 year old. I always used to pick Schumacher's Ferrari on the streets of Monaco xD
And maaan, that intro still gives me shivers till this day
I played all 4 in succession on keyboard using A, Z and . Loved them and agree totally. Keyboard use tended to stick you pretty solidly to the racing line but this added to the sense of being on the limit. My favourite feature that nobody else seems to have done properly in the modern era was the gradual drying of a wet track....It dried out where loads where highest first and only where the tyres passed i.e 2 separate dry tyre tracks. These gradually expanded until they joined and spread further along the surface until you had a dry track.
It was also visually obvious unlike modern attempts.
Can’t say a bad word.
I do remember having proper driver names in the original though, maybe I put them in from the manual.
Memory is unreliable
The thing I like about GP4 is that it runs flawlessly in 4K. It really does start to look extremely sharp at that res and does begin to compete with more modern titles.
I played Grand Prix 2 on a keyboard last night and then found your video today.
I’d say it’s my favourite game of all time
I remember playing Grand Prix at a mates a lot. You could play turn based multiplayer. Sometimes there would be 3 of us playing.It was so much fun. I didn't know there was a Grand prix 3 and 4. Thanks👍🏼
I remember playing Grand Prix 2 as a kiddo.
To create my ultimate "playseat" i removed two wheels from my deskchair, so it leaned back. Angled the wheel by adding some books underneat, and put the pedals on a wooden crate. It felt like i sat in an F1 car :D And the wheel used was a Microsoft SideWinder Force Feedback Wheel Gameport, which came out a year after GP2.
Grand Prix 2 and 4, the best formula 1 games ever made! I remember playing a ton of GP2 with my 486 back in the mid 90s! I also bought GP4 but did not play it that much.
First off, thank you! Finally a video about GP4 that tells the world how it was and still is!
I myself got the game in march 2002 just after release, found the modding community in 2005 and have played and modded the game ever since. Some weeks more, some weeks not so much. I am a fanboy, yes, but there is a reason you still want to come back and you mentioned it in the video. The immersion. And of course, the freedom of choise between cars, tracks, seasons and mods. Even your own compiled one's. For all racing fans, F1 fans in particular, should try this in my view. I've played this game for almost 20 years, and there are not nor will ever be a game that I will play even half as long as GP4.
I have to mentioned something you've missed in your video. There is another feature in GP4 that's not been seen in any game since (atleast not to my knowledge) and that is the broadcast mode. Nowdays I don't play the games as much anymore. Instead, I do a season were the AI controls all the cars, 80% races any qualifying, and watch the battles ensue. The broadcast mode switches between cameras and cars and finds incidents an so on. It's awesome!
MASSIVE trip down memory lane here. I was a huge fan of the Grand Prix series all the way from Revs on the BBC Micro. I miss them even to this day.
I remember the painfully long wait for Grand Prix 2 to come out after seeing a couple of screenshots in a PC mag that looked incredible. My imagination ran wild about how amazing it was going to be.
I'm glad you've done this Aidan. A exceptional game often overlooked by modern "graphical extravaganza's".
I’ve always been more of an F1 2002/Challenge guy. I wanted to play this one too but have never been able to get it to work properly.
I still love me some F1C easy to mod tons of fun!
I love F1 challenge VB
Its a super mod that comes with every single season of F1
@@leminent2489 I need to check that out this weekend. Thanks!
@@zerof0rce Its an awesome mod, but you'll need quite a lot of hard drive space lol
F1c is simply timeless
grew up with the Grand Prix series, great memories!
Had REVS on the C64, started GP1 on the Amiga, then changed to the PC and had GP1-GP4 there. Goeff Crammond and his team just knew how do it right. Every single argument of Aidan is absolutely true. I always thought I´m the only one who felt like this. Brilliant video!
Grand Prix 2 was the first game i ever played and with that i got stuck in racing games :D absolutely loved the co-op seasons in GP4 that i played back then. I still hope that at some point the 'big' games will pick up at least some of the things that were in there back then, starting with random failures. It just adds this certain something
What about the 2 player interchange mode...? We used to have a regular Monday night session over full race distance. The only way to go when you have only one computer.!
LOL ... I’d forgotten about that. That was a fun feature.
Played F1GP and GP4 a long time ago. It’s an amazing experience racing Phoenix in both. Going from 1991 to 00’s simracing is already a huge leap - and yet from 00-20 the experience hasn’t peaked IMHO.
Loved that series, played from 2 to 4 all, with the keyboard. As i had no wheel. Played always 100% races and stil do because of that game series.
Gp4 was chasing a friend of mine in my turn on the wheel (hot seat mode... it worked) and was behind his car for a while and then I started losing speed. What happened was that his dirty air did not allow for enough cooling to the engine and caused the engine to overheat damaging it. 20 years ago...
Hot seat mode worked better than it should of.
Happy to see that new games stepped back on immersion. I though I was the only one to pointed out
Started my sim racing on Pole position & pitstop 1 & 2 . So you can imagine my amazement when GC GP hit the shelves. Played all 4 to death. Was even a member of a racing league where we emailed results for a championship.
I remember running full pratice sessions, returning to pits and studying the telemetry charts, seing what could be improved in both my driving and in the car setup, something basic, that todays f1 games lack. I really miss geoff cramond f1 games
Schumacher, Verstappen, Alonso and Raikkonen on the grid together in 2021
> BWOAH
Great timing with this I’ve been looking into getting into sim racing for the first time since I was a kid and a massive part of me was already considering just getting an older pc to just run the game from my childhood rather than fork out for a ps5 and codemasters take on F1 which has never stood up in my experience
Edit: as of today I have it up and running with my 21 year old Microsoft sidewinder steering wheel (which is far more suitable than my Logitech DFGT) and had a blast. Missed this so much and while I am yet to play a proper sim (AC, rfactor, i racing etc), I am still amazed by the AI and immersion. The concentration required though compared to everything else is something else. I’m exhausted 😅 thank you Aiden for prompting me to relive my childhood!
you don't necessarily need an 'old' PC to run the old game.
@@djcopie poor wording on my part. I guess just a dedicated setup purely to run GP4 as I use Mac otherwise. But knowing the issues some people have getting it to run on modern equipment I wasn’t sure if an older OS or something would be better. Need to do a bit more research! But this video I think helped me reinforce my decision haha
Buy a PC and Assetto Corsa then. Its not a great game, if you want to to play a game, but it's an amazing sim with an amazing moddiing scene that doesn't need a powerful PC.
Oh and if you love F1 Assetto Corsa has some amazing F1 cars from the 50s all the way to schumis F1 2004 Ferrari and they drive like a dream. You can create your own championships
@@pippo-1073 great advice and I did overlook AC. I heard it’s on the PS4 - would that have DLC content along those lines or is it a case of no comparison just go with PC?
Grand Prix 2 was my first proper race game that started my love for F1. Grand Prix Manager 2 came next. My god I've played those game so much.
And in GP2, who hasn't tried to drive against traffic on Monza or Hockenheim and then when you hit a car head on you hear 'HHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE KGGGGG...... KGG... KGGGG'. Ah, memories.
I started my pc racing career (haha) on Grand Prix 1 in 1991/2 on a Dan 486 (heady days). I remember in the weekend between real races I would take my entire PC around a mates house and we would connect the 2 pc's together and race each other in the previous weeks GP. No interest in those days! Just the 2 PC's facing each other on his dining room table with a flight sim wheel joystick. Pushed forward to accelerate and pulled back to brake! There was nothing like it at the time. We followed this routine for 5 years! My mate and I 30 years later still lament those sessions. I vividly recall the week after Imalo 94 having a 1 minute silence before we started the race!
Aiden, thank you I was for a few minutes in my very early 20's again!!
Great video. I learned how to drive a racecar on GP2 and ported the skills to real life karting for example - Yes nothing after that series ever came close to them in any sense - all just Mickey Mouse commercial projects and nothing ever stuck until GPL came out, which was a bit like todays ACC - specialised.
I still use Crammond's sims as a subconcious benchmark for every modern sim I invest time into. Sadly, I didn't have the hardware to play GP4 when it came out, so I was pleasantly surprised watching your video that there are so many mods. Needless to say it is there on my current machine as a tribute to Geoff. I can play it maxed out now and I will try these mods at some point!
When I played AC ; I knew it was very special and a successor to GP2/3/4 because it feels like these games did and became my main simulation platform almost overnight. Interacting with the modding community has only enhanced my admiration for the platform. Superb piece of software, like GP4.
Grand Prix Series by Geoff Crammond is just awesome! I bought all of them (even GP3 2000), except GP4, because somehow that wasn't distributed in Hungary. Which is a pretty big thing (I mean the buying) given the software piracy in Hungary back then.
I played Revs a lot also on the C64. I didn't know it was Geoff Crammond creation until recently.
My first F1 game was F1 World Grand Prix - loved the Scenario mode, can't remember what the scenario was but there was a great one where you take over Coulthard who had to try and get back to the pits down a wheel, and as soon as you take over, the front left just goes flying upwards like a bloke on a bungee rope, it was absolutely superb.
Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix Series, played all four to death in my teens and recently downloaded GP4 again.
A ten lap race remains a fun way to fill some time.
I had revs+4 tracks for my bbc, then getting F1gp on the amiga a few years later, then gp2-4 on the pc. It was my favourite series for a lot of years.
First f1 game I ever owned. Remember playing on a keyboard when I was maybe 5 or 6
I started with gp2, played gp3 and gp4 and yes I'm in my mid 30s. Before that i even played gp1 at a friend's. They were great games and you picked out all the great things. The latest f1 game has some elements that gp4 doesn't have gp4 was the drivers perspective but current f1 gives a tv type perspective, but at least it does that well. There hasnt been any other game as complete for running a season, with ai making mistakes and the different types of failures as well as strategy coming into play. I played about 7 full seasons in gp4 at about 50% distance and it was completely immersive.
Crikey! This takes me back a bit. I had the first two games in the series, and particularly recall endless hours on GP2. I'm not sure of the name of the magazine but there was one PC gaming issue where they attached a little booklet with recommended setups for all the 1994 tracks. So I copied those and beat all of my brothers' lap times (without telling him about the setups, of course) and he wasn't too happy when he saw what I'd been doing. He broke all of my records in the end once he found the booklet for himself. Ah it was a great game, still the best I've played. Being able to mod a game is absolutely crucial for its longevity IMO.
The chance to play a full race/championship with my friends on the same computer by turns was a paradise. The computer driving my car, my brother trying to catch the gap ..!!
Some of these games are giving me major flashbacks. I used GP3 modded to hell with new physics and updated driver and livery packs. Miss these games
A certain famous driver by the name of Lewis Hamilton grew up playing the Geoff Crammond Grand Prix series... There's a clip floating about with him mentioning in a post race interview when he was young.
Anyhow, loved the series. Battling against the strength of my Microsoft Sidewinder 2 Wheel, with the pedals modded to allow independent acceleration and breaking.
I've been gently pestering Microprose through their social media to commit to bringing back the Grand Prix series. Geoff Crammond has retired, and had said after 4 that he wouldn't consider doing another one unless it was a fully official FIA release. The chances of Codemasters giving that up are as round as a tyre, but even so, I remain hopeful that we'll see a return of Grand Prix, and that it will be as immersive and detailed as it's predecessors.
I am pretty sure another f1 champion (Jacques Villeneuve) said he used gp2 to learn the tracks during 1996
@@rickbarnes3546 So that's* why they won 4 races each in their rookie years! Coool 🙂
I've honestly never heard of that game series but now I want to get my hands on the game myself AND I would love to see you have a go at it.
Shame that you can't do it with your gear.
I still have my copy and regularly go back to it.
I loved GP4. There was an option to set all cars to the same spec. Any car could win the race. That was fun. I wish we had that feature in modern f1 games.
I played maaaaany many hours on the first game in the series. And you didn't mention Stunt Car Racer. Also a sublime Crammond game.
Grand Prix 4 I installed last year when I got my g920 and I was amazed everything worked so well (after a bit of forum digging). Next to RF2 the sensations are ofc not on the same level. But the user interface and game modes make RF2 look like the 20 year old game.
Great video 👍👍
What I recall being fond of from GP4 was the atmosphere it created for the player. It was you experiencing the race through your helmet visor. It made you feel like it was all on you. Yes, wet races were particularly intense... and intensely fun. The AI was great too. But for me it was the atmosphere the game created.
After seeing this video, I immediately started searching for it. I love the classic times (and still long to the F1 2000-2013 seasons). The only thing that is not clear to me, I have only fanatec gear directly connected to the steering wheel, so no extra USBs or anything. Can I play the sim in this way? Thanks in advance
Grand Prix 3 is what got me into F1 in the first place. Grand Prix 4 I sadly never got to enjoy as my computer at that time in 2002 was not up to spec to handle it. Still have the original game and would love to try it again one day.
I had the original Grand Prix on my Atari ST and as a teenager summer holidays were spent doing full length seasons with full practice sessions and hours spent tweaking the cars setups. It was ludicrous fun. Moved on to Grand Prix 2 when that came out but had no idea they did a 3 and 4.