Thank you for this video. Really great to see GP4 on the list of best games. I was one of the developers in a small team at Microprose who developed both GP3 and GP4. Myself and a colleague wrote the entire graphics engine for GP4 using C++ and directx. Geoff looked after the physics (using assembler) and we interfaced the graphics engine with the backend physics. We also developed an XBOX version of GP4 but was never released (it was close to completion). So pleased that people still like it and that it has great support in the mod community. Thank you
As a former modder on the GP4 scene, let me tell you how awesome the game was and still is to this day. I used to mod sounds and steering wheels. Even though both techniques were radically different, once you're used to them everything flows. Although my most recent work is from almost 6 years ago (I had to stop when my graphics card blew), you can catch a glimpse of how good GP4 felt and looked at that time by looking at my videos.
Loved your game, few years ago I enjoyed watching simulated races since I wasn't capable to play myself haha But seriously the level of details left me in awe
But technically speaking it didn't have an F1 license, first and foremost because FOM doesn't hold such rights for that era. It's the same reason why you can see multiple cars from the same classic season in some games that aren't connected to F1 at all.
@@Mandarin9900 I've heard that, but GPL is in fact a licensed game. The developers just didn't have the convenience to buy the license for a complete season from one source. (from Wikipedia: Licensing could also be difficult. Papyrus co-founder Dave Kaemmer commented, "It's not a pleasant thing to call someone on the phone and say that you want to license their dead son's name, but people have been very helpful.") I guess the creators of this video simply only thought of modern era F1 games, otherwise they would have explained why they left GPL out or at least included it as an honorary mention. After all, it's one of the most important racing games (not only speaking about F1). It was actually recommended to us by my driving dynamics professor at a time when sim racing wasn't as common and taken seriously as it is today 😉.
I would include F1 2013 in the list of best F1 games. Not only did you have career mode and classic cars, but classic tracks. You could race the current (at the time) teams and drivers on classic tracks. I still fondly recall driving around Brands Hatch Grand Prix circuit in a 2013 Mercedes
I never had 2, but loved 3 & 4. 4 also had some funny bugs. Getting stuck on the jack in the pits, or replays where cars would crash out, yet were in the lead, no trouble, up to that point.
F1 Challenge 99-02 is the OG for me. Playing it online extensively in 2011-12 with people around the world and also the mod that comes with it. Still have the 2004,2005,2006,2007 and 2008 mod sitting inside my pendrive but for the lack of free time barred me from playing that.
99-02 I found really difficult on a game pad. Haven't loaded it up in years , have the disk in the attic. Is it possible to play on win 10 and a fanatec wheel? Is it worth the hassle?
@@theempires5 I actually started off playing F1 Challenge with a joystick. Upgraded to a cheap wheel and pedals at some point. Where do/did you get the newer seasons for it? I think right now I have mods installed covering 1970 to 2005. Works okay on windows 7 lol
Oh yes Grand Prix 4. Arguably the best F1 game ever made and which still is fun to this day. For example there is a huge AI Racing Series called the GP4 Offline Championship where you can basically watch your AI perform and you dont even have to own the game itself :)
I disagree. Yes F1 2015 is very bad (no career mode, no saftey car and it was full of glitches) but at least codemasters tried with that game. It was there first game on the next gen console. they rebuilt there entire game from the ground up. The graphics are great even by todays standers and it has 2 years of F1 cars. F1 2014 is just the pinicle of lazziness.
F1 2014’s AI were pure garbage, even if they had a career mode, there was no point racing the trash AI. F1 2015’s AI were way better for side by side racing. And they wont get out of the way for the player
I Remember Playing F1 Championship Edition ,the first F1 game I played ,then Moved to F1 2010 ,2011 ,2012 ,2014 ,2015 and 2017,2018 editions !!! I still miss good old days of F1 Championship Edition
Grand Prix 1 on the Amiga was also a game changer. You're right about F1'97 and the damage factor. I was leading Montreal by a mile in the Arrows with Damon Hill and the exhaust clunked on the last chicane.
I'm with you. I played GP4, ans the first time going thru a full season is sooo satisfying, specially if you win the drivers championship :) Also, GP4 had sooo much content outside gaming. Those videos explaining the cars, from the overall to the finest parts of setup. It was such a learning experience as a fan and I never forgot none of that for when I would watch the next race on TV.
@@RomanBellicTaxi I spent so much time simply doing setup work in GP4, and I actually enjoyed it. And I can't bring myself to bother with that in any modern sim. That's a big testament to the presentation of the game and the way to cars reacted to the smallest setup changes.
Same...Grand Prix 3 and 4 were a huge part of my childhood. I remember when I learned how to mod the car liveries, and I would open up the sprites for them and modify them in microsoft paint to design my own lol..It was super fun, and in terms of setups and overall sim racing, way ahead of its time.
Championship season 2000 on ps1 was awesome. Even had different fuel and tire strategies you could run in the race like 1 or 2 stoppers. It was a nice little simcade
F1 career challenge with the RH2004 mod was a good part of my teen years. We'd have 4-5 people at the local computer shop race together in LAN. So much fun.
The F-1 World Grand Prix games on the N64 were really solid for the time, and were the first to introduce scenario modes based on the 1997 and ' 98 seasons. The late 90's and early 2000's were an awesome time for F1 games because multiple studios had the license to make official games, and you got so much variety. I'll happily take the odd bad game in exchange for risk and innovation, which it's taken far too long for Codemasters to do, due to the fact that they don't have much in the way of competition. F1 Arcade for the PS1 is probably the weirdest F1 game, if not the worst. Think F1 race stars by way of Sega Rally, with crazy power ups and a time limit you have to keep extending.
There should be a game with a retro season in it like 1990 or 2000 for example. There would be everything like the drivers and the teams from that time Personally i would love a game like that
I remember using mods for F1 Challenge 99-02, that was one amazing game. I also loved the first F1 game for the PS1, I remember driving the entire Monaco GP with full laps...just loved it. I miss the F1 GP series from the N64 with all the scenarios to play, that was so cool.
@WALEAD REDEMPTION iv been driving lifeforspeed for 14 years, i tried so many in VR and lfs is the only one that actually works well and has a vr menu system where u just look and click. Other games made me get out of my racing chair back on the monitor to change the slightest thing.
F-1 World Grand Prix on N64 deserves an honorable mention I think for being one of the better F1 games that have ever been made. Specifically for the graphics, pretty decent physics, and the Challenge Mode was enjoyable, if frustrating at times. And also noteworthy as one of the games where Jacques Villeneuve did not allow his name or likeness to be in the game.
There's two that I miss on the top 5 list: - Grand Prix Legends. For years it was simply the most advanced simulation out there. Besides the amazing physics model, its premise and track selection was unique. Racing on the original 14 km layout of Spa-Francorchamps is just something else, and until the modern era of mods and DLC you could do that exclusively in this game. The fact that it came out in the same year as the two most awful looking entries in the video is just astonishing. - Grand Prix 2. While GP4 is objectively the best edition of the Geoff Crammond series, I would rank GP2 higher in terms of being ahead of its time. It came out in 1995 and both its damage model and its driver AI put every Codemasters F1 game to shame. And although there is no career mode, the immersion aspect is pretty impressive for 1995 as well: You could do full race weekends with every single practice session including Sunday warm-up, you had full control over your pit stop strategy and could adapt it during the race to your actual fuel consumption and tyre wear, you could do all kinds of setup work and the car would react to it. And all driver and team names were customisable, which is a nice feature I missed in many of the later F1 games.
3:39 how ahead of it's time is a game, where you have actually fully modeled marshals come out and push the car out of the track ?? That is incredible.
And if I'm not mistaken, marshals were even in GP3 several year before. Already in GP2 you had telemetry tool where you can analyse telemetry of your car during the fastlap, make changes to car setup and feel how they worked out on track! As good as modern Codemasters games are, they still lack this feature
From that era, and if you'd like a sprite based game, I recommend F1 Circus on the same console. It has a career mode, red flags, dynamic weather, a good damage model and it's damn fun to play once you get the hang of it
I know that you've mentioned Grand Prix 4, but anyway I miss Grand Prix 2 on your list. It was way ahead of its time, what graphics and realism is concerned and set the standard for many games to come. It had everything except for weather changes
F1 World Grand Prix and it's sequel in the Nintendo 64 were both excellent to play and their graphics were amazing for their day. There was another F1 game on the N64 however that was terrible - I think it was called Pole Position 64.
I remember buying F1 98 for the PlayStation, only to return it in a day in exchange for Gran Turismo. Never played another F1 game since. I was seriously disappointed after having played Grand Prix 2 for many years, which I absolutely loved.
@@STREET24000 I'd be happy with a mod team releasing a decent 2006 mod for Assetto Corsa. The career mode in that game was fun though, even if trying to get a race seat on hard mode was a pain in the arse.
F1 challenge 99-02 and gp4 is the game that create the path to make F1 game like nowadays F1 game , two of the best game ever , for 2003 release it seems very advance
Best F1 sim: Crammond GP4 Worst F1 sim: Everything else. The level of fine tuning in every aspect of the car setup, plus the data logs, made GP4 not just a game but a real simulation.
You forgot the wheel issues for F1 2014, that limited your available steering lock at high speeds leading to ridiculously large turning circles, and running wide on corners, simply because you didn't have enough steering lock available.
Ngl, I almost had a heart attack when you said F1 Championship Season 2000, but then I realized you were talking about the PS2 version, and I was much calmer. Not only because the PS1 version was the game that got me into, but also because I still play to this day, and I think it's quite good.
There's an overlooked gem at the PS2 called Grand Prix Challenge,developed by Melbourne House and published by Atari Inc. (Infogrames),based upon the 2002 season. I used to play a lot in my childhood. Oh boy it's a good game. Good graphics and good gameplay,and a top tier soundtrack. An amazing arcade styled F1 game that deserved more recognition.
F1GP for the Amiga in 1991 was one of the best of its time, customisable roster, decent controls, full length Grand prix and a spectator mode if you just wanted to play out scenarios.
Geoff Crammonds games were always my favourite. I started with GP1 in 1994 I think and then played them all with mods, with online leagues of early 2000s etc. Philosophy of those games is just different. Changes you make to the smallest car setting then actually can be felt in a car even if you play on a keyboard.
Yes! Poor graphics, but you could tell the developers really get what F1 fans want. And the intricate ways you could customize the performance level of every driver and team! For many years, after the start of every F1 season I would update the grid in the game (team names, colour schemes, engine suppliers, driver transfers and names) and see how closely I can match the performance levels of all drivers and teams to the actual power ranking in F1 at the time.
Nailed the best list. Had all these, and didn't have one of the ones on the worst list, thankfully. I can only imagine what a Geoff Crammond F1 game would look like today. Played GP1 when I was 6, and there started my 30+ year addiction with F1 games. F1 2020 is the best, though. It's everything I've ever wanted in an F1 game since GP1, but there are still things that you could do in GP1, that you still cannot do in any other non-Geoff Crammond F1 game since, like, take control of both drivers throughout the course of a race. This would work incredibly well on F1 2020 My Team, if it were a thing. Drive the first half of the race with one driver, then swap mid-race and take control of the second driver, and for more than one stint (if you want to). That used to be so much fun. Great video! :)
What a lot of people might not know about, is that F1 Challenge 99-02 has a lot of pretty awesome stuff hidden in the game files. For example, you can have formation and slow down laps, unlock the camera at pitstops, add more screens to the LCD on the wheel, add driver tags, even have that 2x15 minute period of going out to the grid, and probably many more. These were probably cut from the in-game menus because they didn't get finished in time, but the only issue I've seen is the AI unable to handle the swimming pool section on the formation lap, which can get very frustrating
F1 2015 was the first F1 game that ran on a new engine. This provided better graphics, a way better handling model and more optimization options. F1 2015 was the first one that required a better hardware but it kept on in the new games as well.
The games I’ve got the most enjoyment out of was F1 ‘95, ‘99 and ‘06. I begged and begged for Career Challenge but didn’t play it much when I did get it
As soon as I saw the title I knew it was going to be a good or bad video depending on whether any Geoff Crammond's games were included. Happy to see GP4 there, but I would have probably included the first one as well. Either way, it was a good list.
Couldn't agree more on F1 97 and the OG F1 1996 (with season 1995). Even today those games are so much fun! Bizzare creations did an amazing job in those games.
It wasn't a licensed game but Grand Prix Circuit (1988) was for all practical purposes the first Formula One game. It featured three of the actual teams and eight of the then current tracks though none of the drivers. Created by DSI and slotting in between Test Drive 1 and Test Drive 2 developmentally, it was outstanding for the time with the biggest drawback being lousy A.I. (but hey, it was 1988 after all).
As someone who loves F1 2020... it does not deserve to be in a list of the Best F1 games. Why? It is still to this day so so filled with bugs and glitches. When the game is running smoothly as it should, it is incredible but unfortunately you're more than likely to encounter some game breaking or race ruining bug almost every race... and if you don't experience one, someone else in the lobby most likely will. The game has serious sync issues online where sometimes cars will appear for you in a completely different place on the racetrack eg. the car in 16th place and being lapped on your screen might actually be in 2nd place and on the lead lap - If you are running ghosting off, that car will be solid even though it's not actually there... The safety car sometimes comes into the pit for the race to get back underway at the pit entry whereas other times it might be half way round the lap... The VSC sometimes bugs out where it will come out for no reason every lap for 5 laps in a row... For inexplicable reasons, sometimes when you pit, the pit crew are either not even out and ready for you OR they are but they take an extra 3s to work on the car for no reason... The pit lane limiter line isn't actually in the correct place on most tracks... There's a race ending bug where even if you touch the wall at 2mph with your wing, the wall will feel like it grabs hold of you and then your wheels pop off, ending your race... A few tracks don't have their track limits set correctly where you can still be within limits but the game deems you to be off-track, causing a penalty... I could go on and on and on.... Like I said, I enjoy F1 2020 and it is better than previous games when it's working as it should BUT previous games had nowhere near as many issues/bugs/glitches as F1 2020 does.
Still no love for F1 2013? Classic cars AND TRACKS with leader boards separated by era and with solid handling and graphics, Murray Walker, era appropriate pit crew, tyre branding and even filters to match the colour spectrum as it appeared on the TV tech of the time and the real photo loading screens was a nice touch
Absolutely shocking that they didn't include F1 Race Stars as the number one best game of all time XD
Handling physics, and a little bit the big heads also, but mostly handling physics, and the dynamic weather was poor to cloudy.
F1 Race Stars unironically is pretty fun, all memes aside
Loved that one, as an arcade
F1 arcade 2001 is worse
Becouse its not the best game
Thank you for this video. Really great to see GP4 on the list of best games. I was one of the developers in a small team at Microprose who developed both GP3 and GP4. Myself and a colleague wrote the entire graphics engine for GP4 using C++ and directx. Geoff looked after the physics (using assembler) and we interfaced the graphics engine with the backend physics. We also developed an XBOX version of GP4 but was never released (it was close to completion). So pleased that people still like it and that it has great support in the mod community. Thank you
As a former modder on the GP4 scene, let me tell you how awesome the game was and still is to this day. I used to mod sounds and steering wheels. Even though both techniques were radically different, once you're used to them everything flows. Although my most recent work is from almost 6 years ago (I had to stop when my graphics card blew), you can catch a glimpse of how good GP4 felt and looked at that time by looking at my videos.
Thanks for everything you’ve done you are extremely appreciated
My favourite F1 game, excellent in car handling and setups. Great job.
Loved your game, few years ago I enjoyed watching simulated races since I wasn't capable to play myself haha
But seriously the level of details left me in awe
I did like Microprose's GP Manager 2 and GP World manager games. :) Would be great if that would be possible nowadays and battle Horner and Toto :D
Grand Prix Legends is missing. It's a 90's game about the 1967 season, but still technically an F1 game.
GPL doesn’t belong here anyway, its head and shoulders above anything else in this video ;)
But technically speaking it didn't have an F1 license, first and foremost because FOM doesn't hold such rights for that era. It's the same reason why you can see multiple cars from the same classic season in some games that aren't connected to F1 at all.
@@danericardo6148 Very good point Ricardo 👍🏻
In the first 5 seconds you get told that they are mentioning LICENCED games, so I think GPL is out of the question
@@Mandarin9900 I've heard that, but GPL is in fact a licensed game. The developers just didn't have the convenience to buy the license for a complete season from one source. (from Wikipedia: Licensing could also be difficult. Papyrus co-founder Dave Kaemmer commented, "It's not a pleasant thing to call someone on the phone and say that you want to license their dead son's name, but people have been very helpful.")
I guess the creators of this video simply only thought of modern era F1 games, otherwise they would have explained why they left GPL out or at least included it as an honorary mention. After all, it's one of the most important racing games (not only speaking about F1). It was actually recommended to us by my driving dynamics professor at a time when sim racing wasn't as common and taken seriously as it is today 😉.
I would include F1 2013 in the list of best F1 games. Not only did you have career mode and classic cars, but classic tracks. You could race the current (at the time) teams and drivers on classic tracks. I still fondly recall driving around Brands Hatch Grand Prix circuit in a 2013 Mercedes
For PS3 2013 is my favorite. The handling on that game was superb. For PS4 my favorite is 2020.
That's why I want F1 2013 on my Xbox 360
Ich würde F1 2001 von EA mit in die Gruppe der Schlechtesten F1 Spiele aufnehmen👎
@@ERost-yf6ms warum?
@@SiVlog1989 Fahrphysik, KI und vor allem die Herausforderungen um überhaupt einen Grand Prix fahren zu können. So etwas ist nicht gut!
Geoff Crammond's Grand prix 2 & 4 are legendary!!!
What has 3 done wrong to you? lol
That one was just as good.
I never had 2, but loved 3 & 4.
4 also had some funny bugs. Getting stuck on the jack in the pits, or replays where cars would crash out, yet were in the lead, no trouble, up to that point.
Also, Grand Prix 1, which killed many joysticks on my Atari ST
I put quite the hours into Grand Prix 2. Great way to wind down after a day at work.
@@Yoshiman2024 3 was also really good but 4 was superior in every way in my opinion.
13:49 RIP we will remember you forever...
Deep
Interesting fact: You can still race as Jules Bianchi in a slightly better but worst F1 game (F1 2015)
@@UnlovedZetsu how?
@@sbottono5576 it gives you the option to change seasons (2015-2016)
@David M Oh my bad
F-1 World Grand Prix for the N64 was a masterpiece. Way ahead of its time and pretty much my favorite Nintendo game to date
I loved that game so much especially the 1997 events that you were challenged to try to complete
i still know the 97 season events basically by heart, because i played it so much
Good call, just had a couple of (emulated) races. Still looks good today.
I read the article a 100 times on the toilet wanting that game more than anything in my life. And my dad being a huge F1 fan he got it for me :D
That game basically introduced me to F1.
F1 Challenge 99-02 is the OG for me. Playing it online extensively in 2011-12 with people around the world and also the mod that comes with it. Still have the 2004,2005,2006,2007 and 2008 mod sitting inside my pendrive but for the lack of free time barred me from playing that.
Hey I need formula one championship edition.(2006) Where can I get it.....?? Pls guide.
99-02 I found really difficult on a game pad. Haven't loaded it up in years , have the disk in the attic. Is it possible to play on win 10 and a fanatec wheel? Is it worth the hassle?
@@tonystack1622 Not really. I tend to play it on XP and haven't tried it on win10. A normal keyboard is good enough for the game.
@@theempires5 I actually started off playing F1 Challenge with a joystick. Upgraded to a cheap wheel and pedals at some point.
Where do/did you get the newer seasons for it? I think right now I have mods installed covering 1970 to 2005. Works okay on windows 7 lol
Oh yes Grand Prix 4. Arguably the best F1 game ever made and which still is fun to this day. For example there is a huge AI Racing Series called the GP4 Offline Championship where you can basically watch your AI perform and you dont even have to own the game itself :)
GP4 is probably the best with F1 2013 ,2020 is third id say
They actually used Minardi data telemetry for gP4, something no team would do now.
Can you provide more info pn that league? I looked it up and just found videos not a way to participate.
@@paulroustan3643 And Arrows did the motion capturing for the pit crew
Ive seen you before.... @deoka
Codemasters adding split screen for F1 2020 made me instantly happier
It's the little things
@@BasedWindex facts
Why was cut off to begin with?
@@GarkKahn Splitscreen was cut of After the 2014 game
Couch co op is best co op
There is a F1 Challenge 99-02 Game/Mod that has every F1 Season from 1950 to 2020 the name is F1 Challenge VB :)
it's also 150+gb or something lol
@@3DWorldMan yes but its also playable online in multiplayer and also has leagues
A man of culture, I see.
I play that game. Is fucking good.
It’s a masterpiece
Geoff Crammond's first Grand Prix game should be on this list. It might be 30 years old, but it's the F1 racing game that started it all.
I want to shake his hand and say thank you! And than ask him to programm a new one because Codemasters is soooooo bad and lazy ☹️
@@bmw4life Count me in!
It’s there Grand Prix 4
True!
@@andrewstorm8240 That would be the 4th one, rather than the first.
F1 2015 is way worse than f1 2014 and here's why:
No career mode and no scenario mode
Edit:and the handling is shit
I disagree. Yes F1 2015 is very bad (no career mode, no saftey car and it was full of glitches) but at least codemasters tried with that game. It was there first game on the next gen console. they rebuilt there entire game from the ground up. The graphics are great even by todays standers and it has 2 years of F1 cars. F1 2014 is just the pinicle of lazziness.
@@FormulaTurismo hardly. F1 2014 still had new tracks, the new cars and the new engines. And that’s while they were working on f1 2015.
F1 2014’s AI were pure garbage, even if they had a career mode, there was no point racing the trash AI. F1 2015’s AI were way better for side by side racing. And they wont get out of the way for the player
@@Aro3o6 if we going by AI 2011 was the worst codemasters game.
F1 2009 was a joke
I Remember Playing F1 Championship Edition ,the first F1 game I played ,then Moved to F1 2010 ,2011 ,2012 ,2014 ,2015 and 2017,2018 editions !!! I still miss good old days of F1 Championship Edition
Grand Prix 1 on the Amiga was also a game changer.
You're right about F1'97 and the damage factor. I was leading Montreal by a mile in the Arrows with Damon Hill and the exhaust clunked on the last chicane.
Anything on the Amiga was a game changer, way ahead of it's time.
I cant even imagine how much i played grand prix 2, 3 and 4 as a kid. Legendary games. Ahead of their time.
Can you still download gp4 on pc?
I'm with you. I played GP4, ans the first time going thru a full season is sooo satisfying, specially if you win the drivers championship :)
Also, GP4 had sooo much content outside gaming. Those videos explaining the cars, from the overall to the finest parts of setup. It was such a learning experience as a fan and I never forgot none of that for when I would watch the next race on TV.
@@RomanBellicTaxi I spent so much time simply doing setup work in GP4, and I actually enjoyed it. And I can't bring myself to bother with that in any modern sim. That's a big testament to the presentation of the game and the way to cars reacted to the smallest setup changes.
Same...Grand Prix 3 and 4 were a huge part of my childhood. I remember when I learned how to mod the car liveries, and I would open up the sprites for them and modify them in microsoft paint to design my own lol..It was super fun, and in terms of setups and overall sim racing, way ahead of its time.
@@raa6108 I tried but its really complicated
Championship season 2000 on ps1 was awesome. Even had different fuel and tire strategies you could run in the race like 1 or 2 stoppers. It was a nice little simcade
Grand Prix 2 was lightyears ahead of it's time and deserves to be on the list moreso than the also-great GP4
Yes, Grand Prix 2 is the best of the GC games in terms of how far ahead of the competition it was.
F197 is clearly everyone's favourite game who is old enough to remember it, what do you think Martin?
"You're right there, Murray...."
That's Villenueve!!
Your right there Murray
@@sparkidee *it's the Canadian! 😉
Ahahahah!!! In italian version Andrea de Adamich and Guido Schittone said the same the same things!
"È il canadese!"
"Hai ragione Andrea"
@@valeriomarelli2313 you're right there, Italian Murray
F1 Championship Edition was my childhood
F1 C.E still has to be my favourite F1 game to this date. GP2-4 and F1 Challenge 99-02 are also right up there with it.
F1 05 was the first one I really played, felt very similar to it. Did C.E have classic cars?
@@mattslip179 yes it actually had some cars and Jerez
Me too, don't remember it being awful tbh but it was a long time ago
My first one was F1 Grand Prix on PSP
F1 2001 by Studio Liverpool is one of the best simply because you could have a rave party to its opening and menu music
I always (and still do) find it funny that the garage noises sound more like a pub than a f1 garage
6:07 Jimmer knows that all too well
"WHAT THE- THE LINE WAS THERE!! THE LINE WAS-...!" then proceeds to wheeze hysterically
such a legendary karma moment from the thicc brit himself
@@the_real_mo1keyn walker: "oh no, it's a win."
F1 career challenge with the RH2004 mod was a good part of my teen years. We'd have 4-5 people at the local computer shop race together in LAN. So much fun.
The F-1 World Grand Prix games on the N64 were really solid for the time, and were the first to introduce scenario modes based on the 1997 and ' 98 seasons. The late 90's and early 2000's were an awesome time for F1 games because multiple studios had the license to make official games, and you got so much variety. I'll happily take the odd bad game in exchange for risk and innovation, which it's taken far too long for Codemasters to do, due to the fact that they don't have much in the way of competition.
F1 Arcade for the PS1 is probably the weirdest F1 game, if not the worst. Think F1 race stars by way of Sega Rally, with crazy power ups and a time limit you have to keep extending.
There should be a game with a retro season in it like 1990 or 2000 for example.
There would be everything like the drivers and the teams from that time
Personally i would love a game like that
Same but that's basically assetto corsa with mods
Ikr
"Right then guys, it's PSL here!"
Back in the good old days
And I will see you guys then....
Very nice to hear PSL in the big league. Keep it up mate!
My first F1 game was Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix 2 for MS-DOS, simulating the 1994 season. Loved that game to bits.
I remember using mods for F1 Challenge 99-02, that was one amazing game. I also loved the first F1 game for the PS1, I remember driving the entire Monaco GP with full laps...just loved it.
I miss the F1 GP series from the N64 with all the scenarios to play, that was so cool.
Still playing 99-02 (with mods) every day.
@WALEAD REDEMPTION iv been driving lifeforspeed for 14 years, i tried so many in VR and lfs is the only one that actually works well and has a vr menu system where u just look and click. Other games made me get out of my racing chair back on the monitor to change the slightest thing.
why don't you stream it simon?
Favorite thing about F1 97 on the PS1 is definitely Murray's commentary.
You're right there, Murray
PSLutonRules on The Race! Awesome :) Grand Prix 2 is my favourite ever.
i haven't heard his voice in a while, but it's still nice to hear it
F-1 World Grand Prix on N64 deserves an honorable mention I think for being one of the better F1 games that have ever been made. Specifically for the graphics, pretty decent physics, and the Challenge Mode was enjoyable, if frustrating at times. And also noteworthy as one of the games where Jacques Villeneuve did not allow his name or likeness to be in the game.
I think F1 World Grand Prix on N64 is better than the PS1 F1 1997.
Praising F1 '97 and dumping on F1 '98?
This is what I like to see.
As a kid, I couldn't understand how the new one was terrible. I just assumed video games followed a linear path of being better.
@@benjaminrichardson4094 I was the same. It was so confusing and disappointing
When F1 '98 came out, I traded in my copy of '97 and bought it. Two days later I traded in '98 and bought '97 back.
There's two that I miss on the top 5 list:
- Grand Prix Legends. For years it was simply the most advanced simulation out there. Besides the amazing physics model, its premise and track selection was unique. Racing on the original 14 km layout of Spa-Francorchamps is just something else, and until the modern era of mods and DLC you could do that exclusively in this game. The fact that it came out in the same year as the two most awful looking entries in the video is just astonishing.
- Grand Prix 2. While GP4 is objectively the best edition of the Geoff Crammond series, I would rank GP2 higher in terms of being ahead of its time. It came out in 1995 and both its damage model and its driver AI put every Codemasters F1 game to shame. And although there is no career mode, the immersion aspect is pretty impressive for 1995 as well: You could do full race weekends with every single practice session including Sunday warm-up, you had full control over your pit stop strategy and could adapt it during the race to your actual fuel consumption and tyre wear, you could do all kinds of setup work and the car would react to it. And all driver and team names were customisable, which is a nice feature I missed in many of the later F1 games.
Grand Prix Legends and Revs should have an honorable mention
F1 championship 2000 on pc is giving me all kinds of nostalgia
F1 Race Stars deserved a shout. That game was just confusing on so many levels.
3:39 how ahead of it's time is a game, where you have actually fully modeled marshals come out and push the car out of the track ?? That is incredible.
It is also incredible that NO F1 games after the Gran Prix Series ended have fully animated and modeled Marshalls.
And if I'm not mistaken, marshals were even in GP3 several year before. Already in GP2 you had telemetry tool where you can analyse telemetry of your car during the fastlap, make changes to car setup and feel how they worked out on track! As good as modern Codemasters games are, they still lack this feature
Aryton Senna's Super Monaco GP 2 on Sega Genesis. It was super ahead of its time with rivals, teams, driver swaps, ect.
Loved this game - making my way up from team Moon to team Madonna or something if I remember
@@robjay8193 yeah man. All the way up to Firenze to beat Senna himself. I still play from time to time on emulators
From that era, and if you'd like a sprite based game, I recommend F1 Circus on the same console. It has a career mode, red flags, dynamic weather, a good damage model and it's damn fun to play once you get the hang of it
Some people say f1 2014 was made in a hurry and the ferrari sounds like a V12 and its like driving a shopping cart on deadly speeds.
I know that you've mentioned Grand Prix 4, but anyway I miss Grand Prix 2 on your list. It was way ahead of its time, what graphics and realism is concerned and set the standard for many games to come. It had everything except for weather changes
My favourite retro F1 games:
Ayrton Senna's Super Monaco GP 2 - Mega Drive / Genesis
F-1 World Grand Prix II - N64
Who’s ready for Monaco
Not me
Ready for a bore fest
I’m calling it rn boys there’s gonna be a massive crash
gearbox....
Leclerc wasn’t💀
F1 World Grand Prix and it's sequel in the Nintendo 64 were both excellent to play and their graphics were amazing for their day. There was another F1 game on the N64 however that was terrible - I think it was called Pole Position 64.
Not having GPL here is a shame.
I remember when Nathan made the Reverse Grid Championship on F1 Championship Edition. When I came across it, it felt like a gold mine.
F1 CE on PS3 and F1 2020 >>>>>>>>
I remember buying F1 98 for the PlayStation, only to return it in a day in exchange for Gran Turismo. Never played another F1 game since. I was seriously disappointed after having played Grand Prix 2 for many years, which I absolutely loved.
I'm so glad F1 Championship Edition got mentioned, that game is still quality today.
In my opinion F1 Championship Edition deserves a remaster.
@@STREET24000 I'd be happy with a mod team releasing a decent 2006 mod for Assetto Corsa. The career mode in that game was fun though, even if trying to get a race seat on hard mode was a pain in the arse.
F1 challenge 99-02 and gp4 is the game that create the path to make F1 game like nowadays F1 game , two of the best game ever , for 2003 release it seems very advance
F1 World Grand Prix for the N64 has to rank up there, especially for the realistic challenges from the 1997 season.
It had the scenario mode even way before that trainwreck 2000 Championship season so that's like a plus point taken away :D
Best F1 sim: Crammond GP4
Worst F1 sim: Everything else.
The level of fine tuning in every aspect of the car setup, plus the data logs, made GP4 not just a game but a real simulation.
Indeed, still driving 🙂
F1 97 - the Murray Walker commentary does it for me.
it was even better in F1 2001
"You're right there Murray"
1 thing that f1 2014 did that 2015 did was...
*career mode*
2011 will always have a soft spot in my heart. Most enjoyable and bonkers f1 game outside of race stars
You forgot the wheel issues for F1 2014, that limited your available steering lock at high speeds leading to ridiculously large turning circles, and running wide on corners, simply because you didn't have enough steering lock available.
Yeah, F1 2014 had the worst handling of all. Not to mention the massive input delay on the wheel.
There were F1 games back into the 80s, you're missing quite a lot.
not really comparable in my opinion.
Im so sad that they got rid of the classic cars in f1 2021
F1 2001 was very fun back in the day
Ngl, I almost had a heart attack when you said F1 Championship Season 2000, but then I realized you were talking about the PS2 version, and I was much calmer. Not only because the PS1 version was the game that got me into, but also because I still play to this day, and I think it's quite good.
In some aspects, the PS3 game of the 2006 season looks more realistic than the most recent F1 games! 🤔
Codies doesn't dare to destroy the rear wings
That old Tag Heuer graphic on the screen is so nostalgic
I am born in 2007, but F1 Champioship Edition is really impressive
*Championship Edition
you missed F1 1999. loved that game and it was the first to introduce a safety car, a feature that did not appear again for many many years
There's an overlooked gem at the PS2 called Grand Prix Challenge,developed by Melbourne House and published by Atari Inc. (Infogrames),based upon the 2002 season. I used to play a lot in my childhood.
Oh boy it's a good game. Good graphics and good gameplay,and a top tier soundtrack.
An amazing arcade styled F1 game that deserved more recognition.
I see you're a man of culture
F1 World Grand Prix on the Nintendo 64 - absolutely legendary game
Ubisoft’s F1 Racing Simulation was also very, very good!
It's the best!
.@PSLutonRules is a legend. Bloody loved your channel, so great to see you getting attention
He forgot in the best F1 game
F1 2013
F1GP for the Amiga in 1991 was one of the best of its time, customisable roster, decent controls, full length Grand prix and a spectator mode if you just wanted to play out scenarios.
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Best F1 game is F1 World Grand Prix for the N64, in exhibition mode you could be a camera man! Those were exiting times.
Geoff Crammonds games were always my favourite. I started with GP1 in 1994 I think and then played them all with mods, with online leagues of early 2000s etc. Philosophy of those games is just different. Changes you make to the smallest car setting then actually can be felt in a car even if you play on a keyboard.
9:47 Eutechnyx are MOST known for one specific non-driving game though...
Grand Prix Legends should be on this list. It's the granddaddy of "popular" racing sims!
Can't fully remember the name, but I think it was grand prix manager 2? That game was insanely addictive.
Yes! Poor graphics, but you could tell the developers really get what F1 fans want. And the intricate ways you could customize the performance level of every driver and team! For many years, after the start of every F1 season I would update the grid in the game (team names, colour schemes, engine suppliers, driver transfers and names) and see how closely I can match the performance levels of all drivers and teams to the actual power ranking in F1 at the time.
YES! Definitely had a few glitches but fantastically addictive.
2014 was just bad in general for F1, so the game was spot on for that season.
Nailed the best list. Had all these, and didn't have one of the ones on the worst list, thankfully. I can only imagine what a Geoff Crammond F1 game would look like today. Played GP1 when I was 6, and there started my 30+ year addiction with F1 games. F1 2020 is the best, though. It's everything I've ever wanted in an F1 game since GP1, but there are still things that you could do in GP1, that you still cannot do in any other non-Geoff Crammond F1 game since, like, take control of both drivers throughout the course of a race. This would work incredibly well on F1 2020 My Team, if it were a thing. Drive the first half of the race with one driver, then swap mid-race and take control of the second driver, and for more than one stint (if you want to). That used to be so much fun. Great video! :)
Grand Prix Legends was fantastic!
F1 World Grand Prix for the N64. As a kid, played the crap out of this game! Still holds up today
Same. How good was the scenario mode?
Y’all gotta tread carefully with this one
yep, didnt even mention the 2010 f1 codemaster game
What a lot of people might not know about, is that F1 Challenge 99-02 has a lot of pretty awesome stuff hidden in the game files.
For example, you can have formation and slow down laps, unlock the camera at pitstops, add more screens to the LCD on the wheel, add driver tags, even have that 2x15 minute period of going out to the grid, and probably many more.
These were probably cut from the in-game menus because they didn't get finished in time, but the only issue I've seen is the AI unable to handle the swimming pool section on the formation lap, which can get very frustrating
I had the F1 2015 on PC. In my experience it was incredibly poorly optimised.
F1 2015 was the first F1 game that ran on a new engine. This provided better graphics, a way better handling model and more optimization options. F1 2015 was the first one that required a better hardware but it kept on in the new games as well.
I remember F1 98 and I remember the understeering. The game was unplayable.
40 seconds in and I'm saying that Geoff Crammond's grand prix games are the best ever. Let's see if I'm right.
The games I’ve got the most enjoyment out of was F1 ‘95, ‘99 and ‘06. I begged and begged for Career Challenge but didn’t play it much when I did get it
I knew full well that GP4 was going to be on this list of the best F1 games.
As soon as I saw the title I knew it was going to be a good or bad video depending on whether any Geoff Crammond's games were included. Happy to see GP4 there, but I would have probably included the first one as well. Either way, it was a good list.
Couldn't agree more on F1 97 and the OG F1 1996 (with season 1995). Even today those games are so much fun! Bizzare creations did an amazing job in those games.
Grand prix legends
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F1 Championship Edition, those frantic QTE pit stop memories came back vividly~
Reupload moment
I want a real career mode again where you have to work your way up
Back in the day I really enjoyed Ayrton Senna's Super Monaco GP II on the Sega Megadrive.
What about Virtua Racing? The graphics was well ahead of it’s time.
Geoff Crammond’s Grand Prix 2
back in the day, this was a masterpiece
Suprised F1 2009 isn't on the the worst list.
Yes!! F1 97 -> You're right there, Murray! I loved that game!!
It wasn't a licensed game but Grand Prix Circuit (1988) was for all practical purposes the first Formula One game. It featured three of the actual teams and eight of the then current tracks though none of the drivers. Created by DSI and slotting in between Test Drive 1 and Test Drive 2 developmentally, it was outstanding for the time with the biggest drawback being lousy A.I. (but hey, it was 1988 after all).
GP4 was my fav. You forgot to mention the trackside camera. I used to race in SPA and Monza only using that camera. It was amazing.
+ the weather simulation
As someone who loves F1 2020... it does not deserve to be in a list of the Best F1 games. Why? It is still to this day so so filled with bugs and glitches. When the game is running smoothly as it should, it is incredible but unfortunately you're more than likely to encounter some game breaking or race ruining bug almost every race... and if you don't experience one, someone else in the lobby most likely will.
The game has serious sync issues online where sometimes cars will appear for you in a completely different place on the racetrack eg. the car in 16th place and being lapped on your screen might actually be in 2nd place and on the lead lap - If you are running ghosting off, that car will be solid even though it's not actually there...
The safety car sometimes comes into the pit for the race to get back underway at the pit entry whereas other times it might be half way round the lap...
The VSC sometimes bugs out where it will come out for no reason every lap for 5 laps in a row...
For inexplicable reasons, sometimes when you pit, the pit crew are either not even out and ready for you OR they are but they take an extra 3s to work on the car for no reason...
The pit lane limiter line isn't actually in the correct place on most tracks...
There's a race ending bug where even if you touch the wall at 2mph with your wing, the wall will feel like it grabs hold of you and then your wheels pop off, ending your race...
A few tracks don't have their track limits set correctly where you can still be within limits but the game deems you to be off-track, causing a penalty...
I could go on and on and on....
Like I said, I enjoy F1 2020 and it is better than previous games when it's working as it should BUT previous games had nowhere near as many issues/bugs/glitches as F1 2020 does.
Still no love for F1 2013? Classic cars AND TRACKS with leader boards separated by era and with solid handling and graphics, Murray Walker, era appropriate pit crew, tyre branding and even filters to match the colour spectrum as it appeared on the TV tech of the time and the real photo loading screens was a nice touch