I've been hearing people try to explain this for 20 years and this is the first time i've seen anyone has done a good job with both the show and the tell
Rev matching. 1980’s and my 1st time in a formular Ford single seater on a racetrack, [Snetterton] Came off the back straight and into the S’s, changing down and missed a gear, so held the clutch in and eventually managed to get a gear in the middle of the S-bend [but the revs had dropped while I was still at speed] let the clutch up without raising the revs.. mis-match in engine speed to the speed of the tyres and off the track in a spin I went. [Engine stalled mid spin, managed to catch it with the clutch which stopped the spin and coasted freewheeling backward off of the track] Then sat there red faced as the experts went past looking at me as an idiot. 🙄🤦♂️😂😂
I rev matched on my driving test when I was 16. 😅 Still do on nearly every downshift 23 years later. Heel and toeing came later for me. The gas pedal arrangement in my first car wasn't ideal. Heel and toe is actually a term that goes back to cars with the gas pedal in the middle 100 years ago. In most cars made in the past 50 years using the side of you foot is easier than your actual heel.
I taught myself the obsolete skill of double-declutching in the 1970s, when the clutch cable on my Renault 4 failed again, and for once I wasn't carrying a spare (roadside change, 15-20 minutes). Into neutral, then change gear and blip the throttle until you can engage the clutch without excessive loud rapid hammering noises. In more recent times, I've associated the high-pitched whine in F1 with Sebastian Vettel.
😂 Last comment - ouch! What a burn! My dad taught me how to do that just in case I'd need it. Mercifully, I didn't (first car was a 11-12 yr-old, 1971 Mark 1 Escort, the second a 19-20 yr-old, 1967 HB Viva - a.k.a. "Arfur". He was half a Viva and God only knows what the other half contained). I "academically" know how to do it, but as I'm now stuck driving autos, it's not a skill I'm ever likely to need. But I'm still glad I learned to do it. You never know when you might need to know something! It sounds like it paid off for you very well!
😂 Last comment - ouch! What a burn! My dad taught me how to do that just in case I'd need it. Mercifully, I didn't (first car was a 11-12 yr-old, 1971 Mark 1 Escort, the second a 19-20 yr-old, 1967 HB Viva - a.k.a. "Arfur". He was half a Viva and God only knows what the other half contained). I "academically" know how to do it, but as I'm now stuck driving autos, it's not a skill I'm ever likely to need. But I'm still glad I learned to do it. You never know when you might need to know something! It sounds like it paid off for you very well!
😂 Last comment - ouch! What a burn! My dad taught me how to do that just in case I'd need it. Mercifully, I didn't (first car was a 11-12 yr-old, 1971 Mark 1 Escort, the second a 19-20 yr-old, 1967 HB Viva - a.k.a. "Arfur". He was half a Viva and God only knows what the other half contained). I "academically" know how to do it, but as I'm now stuck driving autos, it's not a skill I'm ever likely to need. But I'm still glad I learned to do it. You never know when you might need to know something! It sounds like it paid off for you very well!
😂 Last comment - ouch! What a burn! My dad taught me how to do that just in case I'd need it. Mercifully, I didn't (first car was a 11-12 yr-old, 1971 Mark 1 Escort, the second a 19-20 yr-old, 1967 HB Viva - a.k.a. "Arfur". He was half a Viva and God only knows what the other half contained). I "academically" know how to do it, but as I'm now stuck driving autos, it's not a skill I'm ever likely to need. But I'm still glad I learned to do it. You never know when you might need to know something! It sounds like it paid off for you very well!
I feel like I finally understand it all, I've heard about it for years but haven't had near the sort of detailed explanation I got here. As I was watching, I felt compelled to try and emulate it on my own pedals (G29) and just based on that, I feel like Heel & Toe would be a HUGE learning curve for me. Maybe I'll decently grasp it for driving by myself but I'll be a mess around others on track. Throttle Blipping on the other hand feels weirdly comfortable, thought I'd struggle with it given how used to not doing it OR the other methods I am but it was surprisingly easy to adapt to. Probably helps that I've been getting alot of practice in with the H-Pattern so maybe my muscle memory has began to associate that technique with that choice of transmission.
NASCAR is going to paddle shift with their 2022 car. In addition to independent rear suspension, center lug and alot more. More like American V8 supercar, you should check it out when you have a minute Aidan. Love the videos, keep up the great work
I’ve found that for me, I struggle with heel and toe, so I use my left foot to brake and use the clutch and my right foot for acceleration. For me it means I can get on the brake earlier and get on the power earlier, with more precision due to me being able to have my foot prepared to hit the brake/gas. (Also I’m weird and find left foot braking much easier)
You're not alone, same here. When I try right foot braking, I'm just lacking some of the precision and "fine touch" that my left foot has! Would be the same for Gas.......I tried....once....in a sim....after a few glasses of alcoholic beveverages! Now remember kids don't drink and drive................except in a Sim....there it can be hillarious! :D
Yeah left foot braking is definitely more intuitive when sim racing. Take it to a car and its a whole different beast because most people are used to holding themselves back from the braking forces with their left foot on the dead pedal as they brake with their right. Once you go for heel-toe, you have nothing holding you back/up against the braking forces besides your seatbelt/harness.
@@blindaceg I think it has more to do with the fact I have a lot of experience in karting. I’ve never done right foot braking because I tend to slam on the brake too hard.
Had much the same experience as you with rev matching. Was told it's a black art when in reality it's just knowing at what point your gearbox wants to play nicely. Clutchless gear changes are another way to practice rev matching, although that's also a lot of risk to your cogs. Satisfying when it works though
Imagine group B rally drivers... H-pattern actually can impact race results, is needed a lot of consistency(avoiding mistakes) and is harder physically.
@@jacobrocha8569 that’s why they are testing it in the new package. My question is will they use paddle shifters or the stick sequential they use in Aussie Supercars
A great video, and clears it all up brilliantly. Could you please also do "double clutching (not granny shifting like you should)" - I have so far been confused by every single explanation out there.
Clutch it into neutral, clutch it into the next gear. It’s literally just that. The. Add a blip on the way down so it’s heel to with an extra clutch operation.
Dinos on wheels huh, when i got my first car a couple of years ago(used to drive the family car which is an automatic) and it was a manual 3-Door 1994 Civic all this stuff seemed so complicated at first until i got the feel of it, mostly downshift using throttle blipping but i have also tried heel-toe and while it is really cool it is not really useful when braking for a stoplight
Learning how to do rev matching/heal toe was and is something I use on my road car whenever I drive. I think it's mechanically more sympathetic and gives me more control, as my old ex RAF driving instructor in the 90's taught me to use engine breaking as much as possible. I drive a RWD car, with 494hp and 506flb-t , so I do think it's valid for me. But it was my old Impreza P1 where I would do it, as it didn't like changing down gears when "Hooning" and blipping allowed it to go into gear smoother and safer (IMO). Great video Aidan dude. What was the game you were on when you were in the GT4?
Managed to figure out what engine revs I need to be at a given speed to be able to pop it straight into every gear up shifting or down in my old Falcon wagon when I had it, without using the clutch at all and without grinding it. Drove it around for months like that especially when the clutch cable ripped through the firewall. (Heavy duty clutch and a common problem with EF/EL falcons)
I do this all the time in my road cars but I don't use heal toe. I use my right foot in the middle between the pedals. (Perks of training from a old nissan that was a manual that wouldn't stay running without you foot on the gas)
Wish i could, usually i go with semi auto. My size 20 feet are the first hurdle, especially in real cars. But thereafter almost impossible, as my feet naturally make almost a 45 degree toe angle, so the heel toe technique requires almost a 90 degree pivot from my right foot. Nope. I do rev match when i drive my real car, but in traffic i only use the break pedal when it is an emergency(and to tap when at a red light), so rev matching is easy af without the break, and is essential when driving with only engine braking. So any ideas on how to overcome this hurdle? "Heel on brake toe on throttle" requires special pedals...
I was taught double de-clutch by my dad when I 1st learnt to drive... along with heel & toe and left foot braking. The last one horrifies the kids when I do it as they're convinced I'm going to plant the car into a wall.
Don't blame the kids. Defensive Driving courses, which a lot of young'uns are pressured into taking because it lowers their insurance rates, drill it into your head for hours that left foot breaking is the devil and will always result in violent oversteer. Hell, my instructor forced people to go out and intentionally and repeatedly do a bad job of it and spin the car to "prove" that it was a bad technique.
The first time I came across somebody heel and toe in a car was a video of Walter Röhrl's feet during a Rally stage and I thought: "What the fuck is he doing there!?" I didn't know anything about driving cars back then... Thanks for the great explanation. I finally got myself a used Logitech G27 and Assetto Corsa and think I can use a bit of explanation on stuff like this to dip my toes (no pun intended) into sim racing.
Something of note. Does the accelerator pedal have to be recessed like on the G27 pedal box so when you are braking your foot is level with the accelerator pedal making Rev matching easier?
It doesn't have to be, but it helps. My old Corsa didn't have a recessed throttle pedal and it was possible, but it's a bit more of a wrangle to get your ankle to the dangle, if you get my drift. Most cars have a recessed throttle pedal for this reason, and so you don't accidentally push the throttle with your brake foot... However that's possible.
@@EikeSky cheers for the info. Was just curious to know if racing cars were like that. I know road cars have to have a sensible set up so doing that rev matching is harder.
What should the timing of the blip be relative to the shift when blipping on a car with no separate clutch? Should you shift and blip at the exact same time, or blip a fraction of a second after each shift?
So many people have explained rev matching so confusingly that I know all these other terms but couldn’t directly tell you what rev matching actually meant.
@@agamer81 I’m from Italy, but I live in Germany. While in Germany i’d say a good 40% of the cars are automatic, in Italy I don’t think I’ve seen more than what you can count with one hand.
Never mind I got it - wasn't braking hard enough and the engine braking was eating it all! It's so easy to lock those cars up and make them slide, they are heavy as hell. Great fun!
I got pretty good at heel toe but before I did I wasn't very good. My old man didn't drive so showing of heel and toe gear changing was a waste of time, but I was young and wanted to impress the him so I did it anyway. I wasn't fully familiar with the car I took him for a drive in, an old Holden Kingswood or something. A family car not made for heel toe gear changing. I don't think he was at all impresses by being flung forward and backward as every time I tried to blip the throttle I blipped the brake pedal just as hard. It is much easier on a bike. I sounds cool too.
ngl but i do like the ranting in the videos hahahah kinda why i subscribed but i do understand that most ppl might get put off or get bored by that so i wont complain much
It’s not a specific amount. Just enough to stop the rear wheels form breaking traction. You learn to feel it after a bit, I’d say try to get it to 80% of the redline and go from there.
@@AidanMillward I thought maybe it was a 500 rpm split between gears or something ...but then there's close ratio transmissions and all kinds of different combos. I was having trouble in raceroom as the rear tires were always wanting to lockup and lose control
I have 12’s and learned it easily enough on a g920. The most difficult part is the muscle memory and once you have that down it’s second nature after that. My advice is to practice doing it first without actually trying it in the sim. Instead, pull up a youtube video of in car footage of someone driving a track you know well and just practice as if you are driving. That way, you are focusing solely on braking and downshifting and not worried about crashing, hitting your braking points, missing shifts, etc. Do that until you feel comfortable with steps and movements and then try doing it yourself in a sim
the rev matching is somewhat of a nessety at work when whe test drive the cars as its actually double de-clutching as most of the boxes are manual an have no synchromesh so get it wrong an u right off a 80+ year old gear box.
@@bus5683 scotty’s 17 lap was better than his 03.4 or whatever it was. The one he did in 17 he had two wheels in the dirt, and there was talk of it happening but would need it to be just right to do so. The 03.4 was too easy.
@@AidanMillward yeah the mustang was a lot quicker then the falcon with the aero across the top of the mountain. The FGX falcon was such a awesome car and Scotty rang that things neck in 2017
Because my dad had been a rally driver, he got a professional instructor to teach me to pass my test, and took me in his near 2 ton, 2lt Datsun (no power steering! - I was 17 and could barely see over the steering wheel!) to the mountains, forestries and especially onto old rally stages to teach me how to actually _drive._ I had to do a bit of the old heel-toe, and lots of rev control to get up steep tracks with next to no traction. One place was so bad he actually apologised (unheard of on a lesson), took over, and drove us straight up... sideways. Sort of. Somehow he drifted that ba$tard uphill! I, needless to say, was never that good. It's been a while since I was physically capable of pressing the clutch pedal for more than a few minutes, but I am still attached to having the extra control over the way the power is transferred to the point of contact. In my last car I had a sports mode plus overdrive, which meant I could flip a switch on the gear lever and increase the revs without increasing the speed - necessarily. Living in a very rural area, that was the only safe way to quickly drive if needs arose. Which they did occasionally (4 kids & a hubby with the habit of ending up in hospital...). I've only got the sports mode now, but it's in the sort of position where I can easily flip it on and off. It's the only way you'll get me to drive an automatic! Especially in winter. Thanks for taking me back to the time that was a) the most fun (the bit _after_ I passed my test...) and b) the most bloody terrifying! You should have seen the roads he took me on. Some were literally on the sides of mountains - going more or less horizontally, the roads having been essentially made out of "shelves" in the rock. I'm surprised it took me so long to start turning grey!
Because my dad had been a rally driver, he got a professional instructor to teach me to pass my test, and took me in his near 2 ton, 2lt Datsun (no power steering! - I was 17 and could barely see over the steering wheel!) to the mountains, forestries and especially onto old rally stages to teach me how to actually _drive._ I had to do a bit of the old heel-toe, and lots of rev control to get up steep tracks with next to no traction. One place was so bad he actually apologised (unheard of on a lesson), took over, and drove us straight up... sideways. Sort of. Somehow he drifted that ba$tard uphill! I, needless to say, was never that good. It's been a while since I was physically capable of pressing the clutch pedal for more than a few minutes, but I am still attached to having the extra control over the way the power is transferred to the point of contact. In my last car I had a sports mode plus overdrive, which meant I could flip a switch on the gear lever and increase the revs without increasing the speed - necessarily. Living in a very rural area, that was the only safe way to quickly drive if needs arose. Which they did occasionally (4 kids & a hubby with the habit of ending up in hospital...). I've only got the sports mode now, but it's in the sort of position where I can easily flip it on and off. It's the only way you'll get me to drive an automatic! Especially in winter. Thanks for taking me back to the time that was a) the most fun (the bit _after_ I passed my test...) and b) the most bloody terrifying! You should have seen the roads he took me on. Some were literally on the sides of mountains - going more or less horizontally, the roads having been essentially made out of "shelves" in the rock. I'm surprised it took me so long to start turning grey!
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Forget about this Ayrton Senna guy, Jimmerino Bomberino has the most beautiful Heel-and-Toe technique i've ever seen....
Nevermind manual shifting, people simply looking over before changing lanes is now becoming a lost art. Love the video!
I've been hearing people try to explain this for 20 years and this is the first time i've seen anyone has done a good job with both the show and the tell
Jamboree Broadbangle's video of trying to beat Senna's pole lap round Adelaide in the McLaren is effectively just several minutes of heel and toe porn
The way he tells this makes me feel very nostalgic for a time long gone and one I didn't even live in....
Love your videos Aidan
Aidan, most drivers outside of places like the USA can drive a manual all day.
Rev matching.
1980’s and my 1st time in a formular Ford single seater on a racetrack, [Snetterton] Came off the back straight and into the S’s, changing down and missed a gear, so held the clutch in and eventually managed to get a gear in the middle of the S-bend [but the revs had dropped while I was still at speed] let the clutch up without raising the revs.. mis-match in engine speed to the speed of the tyres and off the track in a spin I went.
[Engine stalled mid spin, managed to catch it with the clutch which stopped the spin and coasted freewheeling backward off of the track]
Then sat there red faced as the experts went past looking at me as an idiot. 🙄🤦♂️😂😂
I rev matched on my driving test when I was 16. 😅 Still do on nearly every downshift 23 years later. Heel and toeing came later for me. The gas pedal arrangement in my first car wasn't ideal.
Heel and toe is actually a term that goes back to cars with the gas pedal in the middle 100 years ago. In most cars made in the past 50 years using the side of you foot is easier than your actual heel.
Lots of acting talent I see. Really convincing when you fell off the mountain haha
2:25 and the Oscar for best performance goes to @Aidan Millward
I taught myself the obsolete skill of double-declutching in the 1970s, when the clutch cable on my Renault 4 failed again, and for once I wasn't carrying a spare (roadside change, 15-20 minutes). Into neutral, then change gear and blip the throttle until you can engage the clutch without excessive loud rapid hammering noises.
In more recent times, I've associated the high-pitched whine in F1 with Sebastian Vettel.
😂 Last comment - ouch! What a burn!
My dad taught me how to do that just in case I'd need it. Mercifully, I didn't (first car was a 11-12 yr-old, 1971 Mark 1 Escort, the second a 19-20 yr-old, 1967 HB Viva - a.k.a. "Arfur". He was half a Viva and God only knows what the other half contained). I "academically" know how to do it, but as I'm now stuck driving autos, it's not a skill I'm ever likely to need. But I'm still glad I learned to do it. You never know when you might need to know something! It sounds like it paid off for you very well!
😂 Last comment - ouch! What a burn!
My dad taught me how to do that just in case I'd need it. Mercifully, I didn't (first car was a 11-12 yr-old, 1971 Mark 1 Escort, the second a 19-20 yr-old, 1967 HB Viva - a.k.a. "Arfur". He was half a Viva and God only knows what the other half contained). I "academically" know how to do it, but as I'm now stuck driving autos, it's not a skill I'm ever likely to need. But I'm still glad I learned to do it. You never know when you might need to know something! It sounds like it paid off for you very well!
😂 Last comment - ouch! What a burn!
My dad taught me how to do that just in case I'd need it. Mercifully, I didn't (first car was a 11-12 yr-old, 1971 Mark 1 Escort, the second a 19-20 yr-old, 1967 HB Viva - a.k.a. "Arfur". He was half a Viva and God only knows what the other half contained). I "academically" know how to do it, but as I'm now stuck driving autos, it's not a skill I'm ever likely to need. But I'm still glad I learned to do it. You never know when you might need to know something! It sounds like it paid off for you very well!
😂 Last comment - ouch! What a burn!
My dad taught me how to do that just in case I'd need it. Mercifully, I didn't (first car was a 11-12 yr-old, 1971 Mark 1 Escort, the second a 19-20 yr-old, 1967 HB Viva - a.k.a. "Arfur". He was half a Viva and God only knows what the other half contained). I "academically" know how to do it, but as I'm now stuck driving autos, it's not a skill I'm ever likely to need. But I'm still glad I learned to do it. You never know when you might need to know something! It sounds like it paid off for you very well!
🤣🤣 lost it at 2:25
I feel like I finally understand it all, I've heard about it for years but haven't had near the sort of detailed explanation I got here. As I was watching, I felt compelled to try and emulate it on my own pedals (G29) and just based on that, I feel like Heel & Toe would be a HUGE learning curve for me. Maybe I'll decently grasp it for driving by myself but I'll be a mess around others on track. Throttle Blipping on the other hand feels weirdly comfortable, thought I'd struggle with it given how used to not doing it OR the other methods I am but it was surprisingly easy to adapt to. Probably helps that I've been getting alot of practice in with the H-Pattern so maybe my muscle memory has began to associate that technique with that choice of transmission.
NASCAR is going to paddle shift with their 2022 car. In addition to independent rear suspension, center lug and alot more. More like American V8 supercar, you should check it out when you have a minute Aidan. Love the videos, keep up the great work
This was such a sick episode keep up the good work!
The best part of this video was the crash simulation that was amazing.
The quintessential explanation, thank you!
I’ve found that for me, I struggle with heel and toe, so I use my left foot to brake and use the clutch and my right foot for acceleration. For me it means I can get on the brake earlier and get on the power earlier, with more precision due to me being able to have my foot prepared to hit the brake/gas. (Also I’m weird and find left foot braking much easier)
Hey me too!
You're not alone, same here. When I try right foot braking, I'm just lacking some of the precision and "fine touch" that my left foot has!
Would be the same for Gas.......I tried....once....in a sim....after a few glasses of alcoholic beveverages!
Now remember kids don't drink and drive................except in a Sim....there it can be hillarious! :D
Yeah left foot braking is definitely more intuitive when sim racing. Take it to a car and its a whole different beast because most people are used to holding themselves back from the braking forces with their left foot on the dead pedal as they brake with their right. Once you go for heel-toe, you have nothing holding you back/up against the braking forces besides your seatbelt/harness.
@@blindaceg I think it has more to do with the fact I have a lot of experience in karting. I’ve never done right foot braking because I tend to slam on the brake too hard.
@@JB22. Yeah I don't practice heel & toe because of my G27 pedals and the angle which I sit isn't ideal for it.
Had much the same experience as you with rev matching. Was told it's a black art when in reality it's just knowing at what point your gearbox wants to play nicely. Clutchless gear changes are another way to practice rev matching, although that's also a lot of risk to your cogs. Satisfying when it works though
Imagine group B rally drivers...
H-pattern actually can impact race results, is needed a lot of consistency(avoiding mistakes) and is harder physically.
the Converse return 😁
Nascar next year will have a sequential gearbox.
If I'm not mistaken the Camry already has one, right?
@@StevePhoenix as of right now the rules don't let them have anything other than a H pattern
@@StevePhoenix no
@@jacobrocha8569 that’s why they are testing it in the new package. My question is will they use paddle shifters or the stick sequential they use in Aussie Supercars
@@black-op345gaming5 I believe it is a stick sequential (which are very fun)
A great video, and clears it all up brilliantly. Could you please also do "double clutching (not granny shifting like you should)" - I have so far been confused by every single explanation out there.
Clutch it into neutral, clutch it into the next gear. It’s literally just that. The. Add a blip on the way down so it’s heel to with an extra clutch operation.
@@AidanMillward Makes sense. Cheers!!
Dinos on wheels huh, when i got my first car a couple of years ago(used to drive the family car which is an automatic) and it was a manual 3-Door 1994 Civic all this stuff seemed so complicated at first until i got the feel of it, mostly downshift using throttle blipping but i have also tried heel-toe and while it is really cool it is not really useful when braking for a stoplight
Learning how to do rev matching/heal toe was and is something I use on my road car whenever I drive. I think it's mechanically more sympathetic and gives me more control, as my old ex RAF driving instructor in the 90's taught me to use engine breaking as much as possible.
I drive a RWD car, with 494hp and 506flb-t , so I do think it's valid for me. But it was my old Impreza P1 where I would do it, as it didn't like changing down gears when "Hooning" and blipping allowed it to go into gear smoother and safer (IMO).
Great video Aidan dude. What was the game you were on when you were in the GT4?
Managed to figure out what engine revs I need to be at a given speed to be able to pop it straight into every gear up shifting or down in my old Falcon wagon when I had it, without using the clutch at all and without grinding it. Drove it around for months like that especially when the clutch cable ripped through the firewall. (Heavy duty clutch and a common problem with EF/EL falcons)
Gen 3 supercars are looking into having flappy paddle gearboxes with automatic throttle blip
Still dunno if I like that change, it feels like it takes some skill out of it
I do this all the time in my road cars but I don't use heal toe. I use my right foot in the middle between the pedals. (Perks of training from a old nissan that was a manual that wouldn't stay running without you foot on the gas)
I love to heel toe. It's so much fun. My real car have the throttle a little lower than the break so it's a bit hard to do it.
Good video I know about this but always good to here it again 👍
Wish i could, usually i go with semi auto. My size 20 feet are the first hurdle, especially in real cars. But thereafter almost impossible, as my feet naturally make almost a 45 degree toe angle, so the heel toe technique requires almost a 90 degree pivot from my right foot. Nope. I do rev match when i drive my real car, but in traffic i only use the break pedal when it is an emergency(and to tap when at a red light), so rev matching is easy af without the break, and is essential when driving with only engine braking.
So any ideas on how to overcome this hurdle? "Heel on brake toe on throttle" requires special pedals...
Miata Cup has Sadev sequential boxes now and NASCAR is going sequential too so that will leave no major race series running H patters.
I was taught double de-clutch by my dad when I 1st learnt to drive... along with heel & toe and left foot braking.
The last one horrifies the kids when I do it as they're convinced I'm going to plant the car into a wall.
Don't blame the kids. Defensive Driving courses, which a lot of young'uns are pressured into taking because it lowers their insurance rates, drill it into your head for hours that left foot breaking is the devil and will always result in violent oversteer. Hell, my instructor forced people to go out and intentionally and repeatedly do a bad job of it and spin the car to "prove" that it was a bad technique.
The first time I came across somebody heel and toe in a car was a video of Walter Röhrl's feet during a Rally stage and I thought: "What the fuck is he doing there!?" I didn't know anything about driving cars back then...
Thanks for the great explanation. I finally got myself a used Logitech G27 and Assetto Corsa and think I can use a bit of explanation on stuff like this to dip my toes (no pun intended) into sim racing.
Something of note. Does the accelerator pedal have to be recessed like on the G27 pedal box so when you are braking your foot is level with the accelerator pedal making Rev matching easier?
It doesn't have to be, but it helps. My old Corsa didn't have a recessed throttle pedal and it was possible, but it's a bit more of a wrangle to get your ankle to the dangle, if you get my drift.
Most cars have a recessed throttle pedal for this reason, and so you don't accidentally push the throttle with your brake foot... However that's possible.
@@EikeSky cheers for the info. Was just curious to know if racing cars were like that. I know road cars have to have a sensible set up so doing that rev matching is harder.
Doesn't have to be, but it makes it easier. I have adjusted the gas pedal in one of my cars to make it so.
I always try to heal toe my 95 neon, but the gas is recessed so much compared to the brake I have to dislocate my ankle
Same in my Astra. You’d have to be doing well over the speed limit to do it properly.
This is fantastic
What should the timing of the blip be relative to the shift when blipping on a car with no separate clutch? Should you shift and blip at the exact same time, or blip a fraction of a second after each shift?
Shift and blip at the same time.
So many people have explained rev matching so confusingly that I know all these other terms but couldn’t directly tell you what rev matching actually meant.
Honestly, where I’m from automatic cars are pretty uncommon, it kind of blew my mind when I found out that the rest of the world uses them mostly
In which country do you live?
@@agamer81 I’m from Italy, but I live in Germany. While in Germany i’d say a good 40% of the cars are automatic, in Italy I don’t think I’ve seen more than what you can count with one hand.
@@daveswort ok thanks for telling me
awesome video.
I'm playing Assetto Corsa with the V8 Supercars mod and suddenly for some reason I keep on blowing the engine :/ why is this happening?
Never mind I got it - wasn't braking hard enough and the engine braking was eating it all! It's so easy to lock those cars up and make them slide, they are heavy as hell. Great fun!
I have always been amazed at how rally drivers did it, back in the day.
I got pretty good at heel toe but before I did I wasn't very good. My old man didn't drive so showing of heel and toe gear changing was a waste of time, but I was young and wanted to impress the him so I did it anyway. I wasn't fully familiar with the car I took him for a drive in, an old Holden Kingswood or something. A family car not made for heel toe gear changing.
I don't think he was at all impresses by being flung forward and backward as every time I tried to blip the throttle I blipped the brake pedal just as hard.
It is much easier on a bike. I sounds cool too.
What SIM is the one with the P&O ferry in the lake?
Looks like assetto corsa but not sure
Motorcycle riders do this all the time, they have sequetial dog boxes and revmathing on downshifts is important for not locking up the rear wheel
I'm almost sure I've seen some old video of Walter Rohrl showing an extra throttle control on the steering wheel
In the early 70's there was an Australian named Norm Beechey who raced Holden Monaro's. He had a similar setup, it was like a trigger on the shifter.
ngl but i do like the ranting in the videos hahahah kinda why i subscribed but i do understand that most ppl might get put off or get bored by that so i wont complain much
NASCAR's new car for 2022 has a 5 speed sequential gearbox.
5 speed? I thought they used the same sequential 6 speed as in Aus supercars?
Stick or paddle?
@@r3uvsgaming stick sequential
@@r3uvsgaming Stick
how many rpm do you blip between gears?
It’s not a specific amount. Just enough to stop the rear wheels form breaking traction. You learn to feel it after a bit, I’d say try to get it to 80% of the redline and go from there.
@@AidanMillward I thought maybe it was a 500 rpm split between gears or something ...but then there's close ratio transmissions and all kinds of different combos. I was having trouble in raceroom as the rear tires were always wanting to lockup and lose control
I change gears on manual without clutch and tigers screeching. I mean, that is also rev matching, helps gearbox, especially on manual subarus
Does somebody know the mods he is using in this vid?
been trying this for a year still cant do it. Its hard when you have size 11 feet with logitech g920 pedals lol
Wear socks like I did. The first video of my channel shows my size 11 feet on logitech pedals haha
I have 12’s and learned it easily enough on a g920. The most difficult part is the muscle memory and once you have that down it’s second nature after that. My advice is to practice doing it first without actually trying it in the sim. Instead, pull up a youtube video of in car footage of someone driving a track you know well and just practice as if you are driving. That way, you are focusing solely on braking and downshifting and not worried about crashing, hitting your braking points, missing shifts, etc. Do that until you feel comfortable with steps and movements and then try doing it yourself in a sim
the rev matching is somewhat of a nessety at work when whe test drive the cars as its actually double de-clutching as most of the boxes are manual an have no synchromesh so get it wrong an u right off a 80+ year old gear box.
3:32 Sebastian Vettel has a secret tool for this
We need more fantastic highly developed and detailed H pattern cars in sim racing. Flappy paddles are just so boring these days.
No lie: Was going to look into this technique after work. Perfect timing dude! Thanks for the explainer!
I miss the days in v8 supercars with the h pattern dog boxes
Murph’s lap of the gods with that thing is a video I watch often.
@@AidanMillward I was there for it die hard ford man I was blown away by it. But then I got to watch Scotty McLaughlins Lap in 2017
@@bus5683 scotty’s 17 lap was better than his 03.4 or whatever it was. The one he did in 17 he had two wheels in the dirt, and there was talk of it happening but would need it to be just right to do so. The 03.4 was too easy.
@@AidanMillward yeah the mustang was a lot quicker then the falcon with the aero across the top of the mountain. The FGX falcon was such a awesome car and Scotty rang that things neck in 2017
Hey Aiden
Fun fact, Fabian Coulthard has to use his left foot to brake due to an injury. Might be why is is always off the pace.
Man you have mo idea how much rev matching has screwed me up lol
2:25 passanger please be calm
Too much engine sounds on the intro in my opinion, i could be wrong
Yes you are
You can't be wrong if it's your opinion. It's not a statement, some can disagree, but it doesn't make it wrong
Takes time to master.......... unless you jonny vagas on top gear who doesn't drive.....git
*I can't even heel toe*
"Dinosaurs on the planet"...me and my Ford Mustang GT resemble that comment.
My 2019 Ford Fiesta ST and I resemble this remark.
Because my dad had been a rally driver, he got a professional instructor to teach me to pass my test, and took me in his near 2 ton, 2lt Datsun (no power steering! - I was 17 and could barely see over the steering wheel!) to the mountains, forestries and especially onto old rally stages to teach me how to actually _drive._ I had to do a bit of the old heel-toe, and lots of rev control to get up steep tracks with next to no traction. One place was so bad he actually apologised (unheard of on a lesson), took over, and drove us straight up... sideways. Sort of. Somehow he drifted that ba$tard uphill! I, needless to say, was never that good.
It's been a while since I was physically capable of pressing the clutch pedal for more than a few minutes, but I am still attached to having the extra control over the way the power is transferred to the point of contact. In my last car I had a sports mode plus overdrive, which meant I could flip a switch on the gear lever and increase the revs without increasing the speed - necessarily. Living in a very rural area, that was the only safe way to quickly drive if needs arose. Which they did occasionally (4 kids & a hubby with the habit of ending up in hospital...). I've only got the sports mode now, but it's in the sort of position where I can easily flip it on and off. It's the only way you'll get me to drive an automatic! Especially in winter.
Thanks for taking me back to the time that was a) the most fun (the bit _after_ I passed my test...) and b) the most bloody terrifying! You should have seen the roads he took me on. Some were literally on the sides of mountains - going more or less horizontally, the roads having been essentially made out of "shelves" in the rock. I'm surprised it took me so long to start turning grey!
Only 47 views wow
Because my dad had been a rally driver, he got a professional instructor to teach me to pass my test, and took me in his near 2 ton, 2lt Datsun (no power steering! - I was 17 and could barely see over the steering wheel!) to the mountains, forestries and especially onto old rally stages to teach me how to actually _drive._ I had to do a bit of the old heel-toe, and lots of rev control to get up steep tracks with next to no traction. One place was so bad he actually apologised (unheard of on a lesson), took over, and drove us straight up... sideways. Sort of. Somehow he drifted that ba$tard uphill! I, needless to say, was never that good.
It's been a while since I was physically capable of pressing the clutch pedal for more than a few minutes, but I am still attached to having the extra control over the way the power is transferred to the point of contact. In my last car I had a sports mode plus overdrive, which meant I could flip a switch on the gear lever and increase the revs without increasing the speed - necessarily. Living in a very rural area, that was the only safe way to quickly drive if needs arose. Which they did occasionally (4 kids & a hubby with the habit of ending up in hospital...). I've only got the sports mode now, but it's in the sort of position where I can easily flip it on and off. It's the only way you'll get me to drive an automatic! Especially in winter.
Thanks for taking me back to the time that was a) the most fun (the bit _after_ I passed my test...) and b) the most bloody terrifying! You should have seen the roads he took me on. Some were literally on the sides of mountains - going more or less horizontally, the roads having been essentially made out of "shelves" in the rock. I'm surprised it took me so long to start turning grey!
Only 47 views wow