Luke Skywalker is one of the most bland, boring, overrated characters in the history of cinema. People only like him because: 1. He's a blank slate whom they can project themselves onto and 2. He's surrounded by cool characters like Han, Leia, Yoda, R2, etc. TLJ gave Luke actual character and made him a human being. Fans just don't like the idea of goodie two-shoes milquetoast Luke making mistakes and having faults.
I've rejected disney wars as glorified fanfiction for a long time, for many reasons. it isn't true to the original saga. tlj just confirmed it when they literally burned up the Jedi legacy and spat on Luke Skywalker. It's fanfic. I'm sticking with the EU (which was canon by the way, and Lucas approved it) and ignoring this crap that doesn't live up to the true Star Wars.
Kathleen Kennedy, TLJ and the direction of Star Wars killed any joy I had for the franchise. When the Solo teaser came out today I felt nothing... and that’s the future of SW, feeling nothing for it anymore.
You aren't alone. I watched the Solo trailer later night and could only think - how is Darth Bimbo (Kennedy) going to murder this story? We know that she has fired the original directors because they didn't tout her SJW / liberal agenda apparently.
Daniel Tuesta I think we need a new franchise one in the same fashion as starwars but doesn’t cater to sjw acolytes and politically correct culture it need some 80’s level of creativity. The problem with the industry is that it’s creator come from a blandness factory and when the realization hits them the shove the terrible ideology in the faces of their audience.
These people are professional spin doctors. They must think Jedi mind tricks are real. They wave their hand and say "This movie isnt crap. These arent the numbers youre looking for."
Yes, these aren't the numbers we're looking for.... DISNEY DUMBASS AND KATHLEEN AND THAT SITH DIRECTOR AND WRITER AND UGHHHHhhhh ( force chocke) ... Im dead...
Who saw the Solo trailer? Disneys fate is sealed, it was the first time I saw a Star Wars trailer and felt nothing, they’ve done and did it, they’ve killed my enthusiasm for the franchise.
Alorha Baga and they have certainly succeeded. I see that line from the film used a lot to refer to Disney’s current actions with the way they are handling the franchise, I wonder if it was intentional on their part for the line to be perceived as their new manifesto 🤔
Rakatan Lord I believe they are using that line against us fans who see past their bullshit. Let the past die (not go -my mistake). The last part is that yes, they are killing it. We should have known better when they done away with the books to create their own version. 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Alorha Baga I totally agree, I was and still am a huge fan of the expanded universe novels, even though disney says they aren’t canon any longer I still see them as canon, at least the books didn’t ruin or misrepresent the characters
I've never seen the middle-stage of a trilogy handled so poorly; burning down all the interesting plot points from the previous film and ruining old well-established characters, causing TLJ to simultaneously destroy the past legacy _and_ future prospects of the brand. TLJ felt like a rush-job end to a duology.
Darkness1984 I rewatched the prequels recently and despite all the flaws, and there are a lot not to mention how badly those movies aged in comparison of the original trilogy (despecialized ed) well, it's far better than TFA & TLJ,; at last the prequels were original stories and not awful remakes disguised in new movies. And at the time I really didn't like the prequels, so no way to say I'm a prequel fan ;)
I remember when people were saying Jumanji was going to be hampered severly at the box office because it opened so close to Star Wars. Haha! #tablesturned And I love the fact that Jumanji 2 is going head to head with Episode 9. Let's see who blinks first.
Star Wars will become the next Transformers but without the Chinese audience. So that means financially Transformers is the superior movie thanks Disney 😂.
Star Wars has already become the Transformer movies (without the Chinese audience as you said). Defenders of Episode 8 usually say "The plot was inconsistent and the cast was iffy but the visuals were nice, and the movie entertained me. That's the point of a movie for me, so it was good". They literally describe the Transformer movies! All flash, no substance.
Solo trailer was predictable, highly sanitized, a really rotten looking cosplay of adult children trying to fill the shoes of actual great actors. It's a pretty disgusting cash grab. Disney is just running SW into the ground. Overseas market is dead to them, Disney to fix things need to vault the Solo film, release a subpar E9 and vault the entire franchise for 15-20 years and let it cool and hand it to writers, directors and producers that actually give a damn.
Shit, they need to retcon the un-canoning of the SWEU novels, fanfics, lore, wikis and art and avail themselves of whatever parts of it they want...for FREE. Hell, it's already got a built in fan base and gives them proven-attractive characters, timeline and set of stories.
The trailer also shows either Disney has no confidence the actor for Han Solo can do his role or the actor is so bad they took so long to cut a trailer without showing his face. Cause you figure you would show more then back of Han Solo head... his only face shot is heavily obscured.
It has nothing to do with any of that. Its not Star Wars fatigue it was just a bad movie. Its not bad acting its a bad script. Rogue One was actually a pretty decent movie. People came back to see that and it did well in China.
I love how this channel spreads the message on how Darth Mickey...I mean Disney is handling one of the most greatest universes ever made it really hurts my heart seeing Star Wars mistreated like trash cause of Kennedy and her unoriginal ideas along with Rian Johnson and of course Disney keep it up bro
There's an easy solution...it's called not giving a fuck. Try it out sometime, works wonders for me. Just ignore everything Disney does and like the real Star Wars, as it was pre-2012. Don't pretend for a minute that the Disney era is canon. It's not and never has been a part of Lucas' vision or the Star Wars saga. So...who cares what they do? It's just for profit, not story. It need not concern you.
Don't forget JJ. He needs a lot of blame also because of the way he started the trilogy with Rey, Finn & cheaply wrote Luke out of EP7 to make Rey a "star"
Kylo Ren is a pretty thin peg to hang the 'Skywalker saga' label on. Especially as there is no way they'd allow his redemption with the ham fisted way it's been handled so far.
It's supposed to be about Vader, so RotJ is end of story. If it's not,, it's about the Skywalkers. If not, then it's about Jedi. Yet they've managed to ignore everything the saga's about.
they probably would have had the sales if they didn't have the loot box gambling and saying you cannot have pink darth vader yet in the game code look what we have here!
I was already boycotting EA when the first one came out. Lots of my buddies bought it. No one I know bought BF2. They all felt well shafted by the first one, and they didn't like it much. We all still very much like the original Star Wars trilogy. We eagerly awaited Force Awakens. Half of us haven't even seen Last Jedi. Best thing about this is that people are now more open to accept the truth of bs social justice destroying franchises and industries.
It was definitely the P2W loot boxes. I myself am not a Star Wars fan and was looking into buying the game. But once the reports started coming out from the Early Access about how the progression is directly tied to the loot boxes, I backed off buying it immediately.
I'm getting sick of the shit I love being ruined. Starwars was special. It needed to end at 6. That's the magic. We get to make up our own stories on what happened after.
Gus Oxenham Give me a billion dollars and I'll like whatever you want me to. George Lucas is probably contractually obligated to speak in positive terms about the Disney Star Wars movies and merchandise. Doesn't change the fact that his vision of the sequels would have been superior to what we have now.
Yoshi Kato Well to be fair Lucas didn't look too pleased at the release of TFA. Which makes him liking, or supposedly liking if you insist, TLJ interesting.
I expect episode 9 will have Chewbacca die off screen then his body will be made into a rug just a last fu to the fans who disagree with Fucus film's and Disney's handling of the franchise
Don't underestimate the toxic garbage what Disney churns out. Oh they'll go one better than that my friend. They will kill Chewie and destroy the Falcon.
I would like to see them do that. It couldn't ruin the franchise any more than they already have. I was a huge fan for 20 years but could care less since The Last Jedi. Didn't see Solo and may or may not see IX.
MARK MY WORDS! When they finally do get rid of Steven Spielberg's secretary the best we can hope for is someone who will do a reboot of the franchise. Disney has major internal problems with creativity and direction that have been pointed out by major shareholders for over a decade now. It hides these problems by buying out other creative interests and milking them dry. It's basically playing musical chairs with creative properties. Eventually it is going to run out of cash or properties.
Not to mention the OT had about 3 years between films, could take stock and adjust things, Disney released a horribly ideologically dirven film in TLJ, and they are too far in production in their other films like Solo to take the seist Misandrist cringe out and arrest the downward momentum
I think even 2 years would be acceptable if not for the spinoff films and cartoons like Star Wars Rebels being pumped out simultaneously. There's just too much Star Wars and it's not special anymore. When the original Clone Wars cartoon came out it was a big deal because it was more canon Star Wars stories and bridged the gap between Episodes 2 and 3 and also fixed a lot of the plotholes in the prequels. With so much at once you can't really build the hype.
Its funny how antithetical the line from "The Last Jedi" is to Disney's entire business model, while illuminating their creator's own self loathing. Disney makes its money off of the history they have either created or bought; and should they let the past die, they destroy themselves in the process... Yet, they still go ahead and try to do it. More specifically, by forsaking the past of a franchise and what people enjoyed about the series, they incur the wrath of the fans, who promptly abandon the company for what it did to it.
I only know one truth. It is time for Star Wars to end. Let the past die. Kill it if you have to. Disney is relentless. If the franchise is not destroyed, it will be shitty Star Wars movies without end. Every single Disney movie, including your hoped for, Obi-Wan Kenobi movie, is now an enemy of True Star Wars. First, we must boycott the Solo movie. We must catch them off balance. Do what must be done, Star Wars fan. Do not hesitate. Show no mercy.
Allen Linnen, Jr. Exactly let the franchise die, to me it died at ep 6 and while I had some enjoyment with rogue one..it's just best to stop but ofc Disney and it's cancerous SJWs ruined it so hard.
Rian ended the Skywalker legacy in one fell swoop. Guess the reporter didn't bother to see TLJ speeder wreck. For those of us who didn't see it either Luke is still alive.
What's sad is... Disney decided that all of the great extended universe stuff no longer mattered and pretty much never existed. To me, everything from Special Edition up to the last jedi isn't canon to me... but Star Wars Holiday Special IS!! ... Hell, it's still better than the last 6 films :(
SJW toys doesn't sell, hasn't Disney leaned that from Marvel Comics? Star Wars was the only comic that wasn't infected much by SJWness. The proof is that they don't even have comics for any of the new characters other than a series with Poe Dameron and a short of Captain Phasma.
tfa broke my back, and i only saw it cuz my friend made me borrow (well i kinda wanted to see it but i already looked up the plot and story and whatever so i knew it sucked) tfa..... i thought it wasn't as bad as i originally thought, but at the same time, the story sucked ass.... then i kept getting the response "o 8 will explain 7, make it better"...................... so they agree its not a good stand alone movie, if 7 was by itself, it sucks..... its stupid to think "o the sequel will make it better" historically sequels suck worse than the original..... and tlj didn't disappoint there.... the only movie that i think blew people away and was a sequel was "the dark knight"..... tfa was like "theh dark knight rises".... where is the joker?/knights of ren? how did batman get the nuke out in time?/ how the absolute fuck did rey do all that force abiilties, but at the start she couldn't even get more food "last week it was afull portion".... y is she always drawing her blade/ attacking people first, thats the sign of a sith...... i can keep going but i think u get the point..... when i watchd the movie, my jaw dropped when solo tried to give her a gun, and she said "i can take care of myself" bitch........ what about taking care of others? solo offering her a job? all she wanted to do was go back to her home, y did she stick around?
maybe this quote will help how i reached this point "No! No! I will not sacrifice the Enterprise. We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats. They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again! The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done!" Jean-Luc Picard I know, its from Star Trek
I divorced myself entirely after Disney shitcanned the EU in its entirety. That should have been the single biggest warning sign imaginable for fans. It was a move that said Disney were willing to throw **everything** in the trash for the sake of convenient (read: hack) writing and marketing. Lo and behold, that's EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID. Should Star Wars flop, it will be because of weak writing and pushing (Ma)Rey Sue cardboard cutouts in place of solid characters. Turns out, marketing alone cannot carry a franchise to new heights, not even Star Wars, indefinitely.
I would have had no issue if they had made the EU a separate timeline, but declaring it all non-cannon and refusing to allow authors to add to it wasn't a good sign.
It's not Star Wars fatigue. It's BAD Star Wars fatigue. If the movies were awesome, we wouldn't be seeing the decline of the franchise. The not so subtle injection of SJW crap has poisoned the movies, just as it did for Marvel Comics.
SOLO could turn out to be a good movie I still won't pay to see it after the bullshit they let fly with EP8 as far as I'm concerned they could never make another movie Im over it
If I knew what you meant, I'd answer. I'm just a big Star Wars fan that is glad that Disney and Kathleen Kennedy saved the franchise and actually started making good Star Wars again after the prequel trilogy almost killed any enthusiasm I had for the series. Disney has simply been knocking it out of the park again and again between Star Wars, Marvel and Pixar. I wish to God they'd give us more Muppets and Tron and less live action adaptations of their animated films, but whatever. So long as the Star Wars and Marvel films continue to be as good as they have been, I'll happily shill for them.
Krazy Joe Too bad you don't have the Internet to look up big words. Kathleen Kennedy is a cultural war criminal. Obviously you haven't watched the video in which this comment thread is posted. Under Kathleen Kennedy's leadership, Star Wars is losing a fortune, and Solo will lose money too. Eventually Bob Iger will be forced to jettison this toxic woman and find someone who knows how to make a good film.
Oh, I watched the video...this guy posting the video is just a jackwagon. The 'toxic woman' just made three great Star Wars films in a row., And Disney is literally Scrooge McDuckin' in their money bin with the billion dollar gross of Last Jedi so so much for 'Star Wars losing a fortune'.
Disney overexposed Star Wars to the point that seeing Star Wars merchandise everywhere becomes incredibly annoying. Star Wars needs to be put to rest in it's grave after Episode 9 flops at the box office next year.
I feared this might happen when Disney bought the franchise. However, they do a good job with Marvel so I kept my hopes up that they may give Star Wars good treatment. I was wrong and agree that Star Wars needs to be put to rest after IX. It's sad because what as a major part of my life for 20 years is dead. R.I.P. Star Wars 1977-2017.
Disney is so fucking stupid handling star wars so poorly. Owning the star wars license is literally a permit to print money, all they had to do was handle it with some care and make the fans happy! how hard was it to hire some competent writers and form a coherent vision for a proper trilogy??? The last jedi is like amateur hour.
Instead of focusing on "diversity" and women in the story group, Lucasfilm should have hired the best and most beloved authors of the EU novels, games, and comics to create a new direction. Those authors kept Star Wars alive when there were no films and they made great contributions to Star Wars.
Well Infinity War is May the 4th followed by Deadpool 2 on the 18th the apologists can make up the movie sales Im sure they have so much buying power as evidence on the merchandise
Too many characters to care about. The new 3, the old 3, the new vader, the 9 people who got the plans... What's next, the story of Jabba the Hut's cousin from the Hutt planet? It definitely needs to be slowed down. Maybe a new movie every 4- 5 years.
Sorry its an EXACT copy of ROTJ Rey is Luke in everything she does everything he did the bs subversive plot argument is nonsense plain and simple its a copy way more than TFA was. It has both ESB and ROTJ scenes copy and pasted.
Solo teaser looks decent, but then again, so did The Last Jedi trailers. I really hope it’s at least as good as Rogue One and can make up for Rian Johnson’s abomination.
I'd doubt it. However, the same reviewers that were positive about "The Last Jedi (to be made before the franchise tanked, that would be Rose)" will definitely kiss up to Mickey Mao again on this turd.
United Communications unltd. Well, I liked Rogue One, so I’m hoping I’ll enjoy this one too. Any movies past Episode VI are not canon in my book, after Rian Johnson destroyed the sequel trilogy. Jar Jar Abrams is also partially to blame with his “Safe Wars The Feminist Awakens” getting the new trilogy off to a bumpy start.
By Mao, I mean as in Zedong. Also, ESPN is spouting off the same left-wing politics, as well as having the same politics seep into everything they do inside the Anglosphere, meaning it's something to do with Disney as a whole, since you don't see many studios forcing their politics down everyone's throat. Then again, Paramount, Lionsgate, MGM (the studio formerly known as United Artists), and Gravitas Ventures don't keep everything old behind paywalls or have borderline paranoia levels of content protection forcing people to pirate their crap.
I think Disney will keep screwing this up to the point where they will sell the franchise and if George Lucas is smart he will buy it back for a fraction of what they paid for it and redo these movies totally removing Disney and air garbage from Cannon or at least have someone he trusts do them then maybe the franchise can be saved
he sold it because he felt too old to continue. And, he's got a young kid he'd rather take care of. He said it takes 10 years (for him) to make a trilogy, and he can't. That's why sold his franchise - not to only rake in billions (which he spends on charity), but to secure the future of his employees. 2000, last I heard. So no, George will not return - Star Wars stays in the dark side for now.
LunkwillFook Heh, he gives how much to charity? Cause I think if I had four billion in the bank, I'd give 10% of the interest to charity...and I bet that's what George does too...it's easy money.
Something tells me that if Star Wars Movies keeps on flopping, Disney would probably resell the franchise to a different studio, like Warner Bros, and or Paramount Pictures. I wish Paramount could give up the Transformers movies. Fuck Michael Bay.
I don't think Paramount is doing well either. Transformers gets diminishing returns (it's now Police Academy financially), Star Trek has outright bombed, and they're owned by the Chinese anyways.
I can't believe people are still blinded at Star Wars' current state after the clusterfuck that TLJ was. With all those people getting excited by the new Solo teaser, I just wonder if they are just regular moviegoers or just super fans of Disney in general. To me, if you have any sort of respect for Star Wars and more precisely for the character of Han you just can't see anything exciting about that movie. Especially these days with all the SJW & Political correctness agenda bullshit that infested our beloved franchises.
Trollificusv2 They already did in "The Farce Awakens" dying like a bitch at the hands of his own son (at least have him go down in a hail of gunfire in a shootout with some thugs!) Their goal is to destroy everything that Lucas created and make it their own creation. They want to make movie's that appeal to the "millennials" and spit in the face of the lifelong diehard fans. The new generation won't be into it like the older generation, or they will until the next Pokemon game comes out, then it will be forgotten.
Films are supposed to be emotional experiences. The huge error everyone made about Star Wars (arguably even George Lucas) was that the effects and action were it's biggest draw. The effects were great (in the OT anyway) but unless the effects and action are backed up with credible characters you might as well be watching a fireworks display. If you leave the theatre without feeling emotionally fulfilled in some way then the film has failed. I'm speaking as someone who writes screenplays and prose, has directed three short films picked up by several film festivals and I plan to make my feature debut next year. This isn't an opinion, it is based upon my training. For years I was trying to work out why my scripts didn't work but, for some odd reason, my prose stories did. People really connected with my prose writing emotionally but I couldn't get the same reaction when I wrote a script. My scripts were all for concept based films, and I'd discover later that what they were missing were credible character arcs. When I started writing character oriented scripts suddenly I found that people connected emotionally to the script when they read it. Where did I get this idea that it was all about the idea, effects and action? That's right, from modern Hollywood films. They're leading everyone to grow up thinking that is the be all and end all of storytelling and I say that that's not even the start. When Irvin Kershner directed The Empire Strikes Back he was allowed to do whatever he wanted (a bit like Rian Johnson). He was one of Lucas's tutors in film-making so I don't see him contradicting his teacher anyway. Kershner decided to focus on the development of the characters, he did that because he knew how important the characters were and how the audience can only really get behind characters and feel the tension in the action scenes if they cared about the characters. Thus the priority of any storyteller (not just film-maker) should always be the characters (incidentally, if you ever wondered why you felt The Empire Strikes Back was the best Star Wars film, that's why, it's better written and the directorial focus is on the characters). This is a lesson Rian Johnson needs to learn, rather than destroying characters to make his silly concept based film work the way he'd written it. I can't believe personally, as a writer myself, that he calls himself a 'writer/director' - that is an insult to writers frankly. You could put two characters dressed in robes in a cave, make a whole film in there with little to no visual effects or action. If you wrote the characters well enough you could still make an engaging film, you could still make a film that could be accepted as a Star Wars film by everyone who rejected The Last Jedi. Stay within the story world rules established over all the previous films, give your characters goals that we can all understand and make those characters' behaviour consistent and credible, and Star Wars fans wouldn't reject it. I try to tell this to people on pro-Star Wars videos. I try to explain concepts of storytelling going back thousands of years. Their retort is always, 'That's just your opinion.' No, it's not my opinion. I didn't go through all that education to learn opinions. There are objective standards that stories, on film or in books, should be held to - standards that most films were held to until recently, now that its all about 'fan service', its all about reselling emotional journeys we're nostalgic about. Fan service will die out when it becomes less profitable. Nostalgia fatigue we'll all suffer from in the end. Then, when they want to try and repeat that formula with a new generation, they're going to come to an awful disheartening conclusion - that because they're pushing so few original films now, there will be nothing for the next generation to get nostalgic about.
Sir, you truly know your job. Or at least how it should be based. THAT approach is what is missing in this late years about films and storytelling: shiny visuals are nice if they complete a good story, not if they are theonly thing present in a movie. I hope you'll got all the fortune you'll deserve with your futur projects... (I was in young age devoted to build my own stories as comics: it never become a job, but I come across your exact "problems" and I know exactly the very same process you described baout "character development". I could not agree more...)
Awww, I appreciate your sentiment. In truth I'm surprised anyone took the time to read one of my essays, that's not usual. Attention spans on the Internet tend to be very short.
That is unfortunately true. I appreciated reading what you said and wish you great success bringing engaging stories with character development to future generations.
As for The Wall Street Journal, the Reason its honest is because its only interested in the Money and Business side of things. Collide and other places like it are on the fan and entertainment arena, and make money by Fans tuning in. They need Star Wars to stay fresh or else eventually even Hate Posts won't sustain it. People will simply walk away from Star Wars, and a Huge chunk of their Viewership will decline. Wall Street Journal helps people make investments. One doesn't need t be a Fan of Star Wars to buy Lucasfilm or Disney stock, ad one needs to know if the company is declining in sales. If The Wall Street Journal says Star Wars is Great and doing well, and people invest only to loose money, or even make less back on their investment, and its because The Wall Street Journal lied to hem, then they are hit. As to the Rotten Tomatoes Score, I don't Think you read the article quiet right in that regard. While The Last Jedi is standing at 48% Audience Score right ow, in its opening weekend it saw 75%, and lowered to the 60's after the first week, and by the end of its second week was down to 57%. It was a gradual decline, but if you are discussing opening week only, it was actually doing well with generally favourable fan reviews.
As soon as Disney announced they would produce a new Star Wars movie every year, i KNEW they would water the brand down so badly people would lose interest. I just never expected it to happen so quickly. Kathleen Kennedy has destroyed the franchise.
I don't know anything, but if I was in charge of Disney Star Wars I would of ordered: A Cable TV Show based in the Old Republic; A Streaming show, maybe an X Wing Rogue Squadron show An animated series based on Star Wars Dark Empire comics Movies written by Timothy Zahn and other successful Star Wars authors
6:40 people give the prequels a lot of flack for being different from 4-6, but the prequels didn't have MGTOW Luke or Luke milking a space turtle. I hope that over time the fans can come to love 1-3 for doing their own thing.
As much as Luke whined, caring about his friends in Empire Strikes Back was relatable, and it's not as if Luke got rewarded for whining, and neither did Anakin.
I'm still mad I spent money on TLJ and now it's a Solo movie? We must kill this franchise before Disney does. Please try not to see this, or at least skip the first weekend if you are not amused with this unfan fiction.
I realize this is going to sound sexist. But the worst thing Disney did was pass the movie to a female lead. Now i have no problem with a female lead, or a male lead being replaced by a female lead. But Star Wars isn't just a movie franchise. It's also a toy franchise. And as much as we may hate it the fact is boy's do not want to play with what they consider to be girl's toy's. I remember as a kid not wanting to buy any of the girl power rangers or x-men toys even though they were my favorite shows. I'm long past that mindset now but as a kid i had no interest in action figures of female characters. If anyone can name a toy series where the lead was switched from a boy to a girl and did not suffer from it please let me know; because I'm drawing a blank.
shadowspider9 it's not exactly the answer to your question but its the only thing close I can think of is, my little pony use to be a toy for little girls and now I'm pretty sure mostly greasy old men buy the toys.
@Chris L: I guess you are referring to the collector's market. That's slightly different than the millions of children who are the bulk of the market (and the real goldmines of any sane toy's industry). The point is: would a modern 8-10 y.o. boy buy "my little pony", if they were still made for girls, and with girls on the tv / internet ads? I'd say nope!
Seriously??? Who here did not suspect truly epic buggery when we saw the chick flick lead. We all knew. So don't be ashamed to say it folks. BS power chicks are crap to watch. And we're sick of it.
Actually you're wrong about the Jaina Solo figure you can't find her anywhere have you seen how much she is on Amazon and eBay. She was the winner of the 2016 black series poll so you're wrong about no one wanting the Jaina Solo figure but other than that everything in this video was correct.
It's been either OT characters or characters related to the old EU like Thrawn, Jania, and Revan that sell while Rey, Finn, Jyn, Kassian, Kylo, etc rot on shelves.
One each of the Rogue One cast is all anyone would need - perhaps a couple of extras for other outfits - but otherwise nah Cassian is just going to shelf warm with Miss. Ursa. They might be able to get some repeat business with K2S0 but Rogue One's cast has a huge disadvantage "They are all dead"
True story, was in Walmart the other day by the toy section. Couple of employees and manager were moving some stuff around. Literally heard the manager say, “get that shit outta here”. She was referring to those stupid force link wrist mounted things. Really made my day
The only way for Disney Save Star Wars: 1. Fire Kathleen Kennedy. 2. Fire J.J Abrams. 3.Get a ton of money and make George Lucas an offer that he can not refuse.
I saw The Force Awakens for just three bucks on TH-cam and even less at my local Ollie’s! Meanwhile there are still stores selling the prequels for more
The second that Disney acquired SW, It was the beginning of the end. If you remember Buena Vista Productions, They were always sappy and tried to convey their 'moral' messages. RIP Star Wars. Maybe Disney can sell the brand to CBS.
Last Jedi got dropped in China after 2 weeks ... gives me Total recall flashbacks. th-cam.com/video/9SqM1VX2qlc/w-d-xo.html I can only imagine all the SW fanatics with Kathleen Kennedy at the helm repeating "2 weeks" in horror. Star Wars as a movie franchise was done and complete with Return of the Jedi and ever since then any new movies are just the longest running story of milking the fossilized skeleton of a beaten dead horse in movie history.
ian giovanni if you read it again i was specifically talking about it as a movie franchise, not all the additional content -comics, books, games and so on. I know about the EU since up to a point i had read most of the EU as a child. And to be honest most eu books are forgettable garbage that could also be refered to as milking the brand. There are only a tiny few i really like. If you like scifi books then there are far better choices outside the star wars realm. The eu's biggest problem is the Force where it is treated as a cure all for everything, a get out of jail free card whenever the writer writes himself into a corner he can't get out of.
The magic is gone, it's just....gone. What the heck happened to that magical feeling I got whenever I watched a new Star Wars movie? Oh that's right, SJ freakin Ws got ahold of this series.
I wish I had your problems. I've vowed that thew Jaina solo figure shall be the last star Wars Merch I ever buy unless Disney gets their act together, but I can't find the bloody thing anywhere.
Purchase all Legends figures. Save up to buy the older figures that are more expensive on Amazon. Buy the Legends books and graphic novels. Keep it alive and show that there are people want them!
Uh... Lucas didn't _really_ know that after Return of the Jedi it was time to "rest the trilogy". He was just fuckin' sick of it. He'd ended up ghost-directing Jedi (which was _not_ what he'd intended to do) and his wife (who'd spent years begging him to take time off) had just left him for the guy who'd installed the huge sky-light at Skywalker Ranch. Star Wars, and his obsessive attachment to the details of it had just cost him his marriage, and his previous plans to expand, expand, expand until there were 12 movies, just kinda disappeared, because: fuck everything. Not because he instinctively knew that _it_ needed a rest to avoid over-saturating the market. It was _him_ that needed the rest.
Well, in this particular instance, George's insistence that the opening of Empire be _exactly_ the same, beat for beat as it was for Star Wars meant that he wouldn't put Irvin Kershner's credit there. The directors guild let Lucas get away with doing that for Star Wars because it was a small detail of what was thought to be a small movie (until it opened), and _he_ was the director. Plus his name did kind of appear inside the word "Lucasfilm". But they warned him about doing that again for Empire... and he did it anyway. And they ended up fining Kershner for allowing that to happen. Lucas paid the fine for him (which was actually only like a 4-digit figure), but blamed the studio system in general for enforcing their clearly-stated rules. So he dropped out of the directors guild out of spite, and therefor could not bring in his friend Steven Spielberg to direct Return of the Jedi (yes, that was supposed to be a thing). Instead he had to hire someone who _wasn't_ in the guild. Someone who couldn't speak English and deferred back to Lucas for virtually every decision. Meanwhile, back at the ranch... Details to be found here sfdebris.com/videos/special/shadowsjourney.php but it _will_ be time-consuming.
SJWs: You don’t understand you butt hurt fanboys! Turning Luke and Han into the opposite of what they are is good because it’s subversive! Me: So for Black Panther if Tchalla turns out to be a white man who uses high tech to hide his ethnicity as otherwise he would be killed by his black power, black ethnocentric state subjects that would be good since it’s subjective? SJWs: No! It’s good that Black Panther is a neo isolationist and a black supremacist only because he is black, so check your white privilege. Me: The mail office must be on strike since I didn’t get my white privilege check in the mail.
DO NOT BOTHER! Leave SW ends at "The Return of The Jedi". If you ever look TLJ, even if you cherished the Original Trilogy, it will feel killed and you will remember the Crap-Sequels... :.. it will be like the day that someone revealed to you that Santa Claus is not existing. The end of your innocence.
I feel like you've missed out on something big. You have nowhere near the appreciation for how badly this series has been treated as someone that has suffered through it while scrutinizing the experience. Come share in our pain!
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They thought with Star Wars they had a permanent Pavlov's dog set up. They only had to show the Star Wars emblem and the fans would start drooling and handing them money. The fact that they had no plans and nothing to build towards in the current trilogy really killed stuff. The films are kind of aimless now with no real purpose other than to show new characters and spaceships for toys. Oh yeah and hopefully get folks to visit the Star Wars amusement parks for lots of forced corporate fun.
Don't. Remember it as it was.. Once you have seen it you can never in-see it and the world will be a darker place. Remember fondly what was. Never see TLJ.
Did I miss anything? List of Last Jedi fails: 1. The Hero’s Journey 2. Character development ( one dimensional characters ) 3. Pacing 4. Too many undeveloped plot points 5. SJW stuff 6. Continuity to Force Awakens and any other Star Wars film. 7. The Force theme: No temptation to turn to the Dark side and no Fear when facing the Dark Side. “He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster . . . when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you” ― Friedrich Nietzsche 8. Stakes - at no point we fear for the heros lives 9. Out of place humor 10. Force learning contradictions among many other contradictions. Both Luke and Kylo teach the same thing... let go of the past, be in the present. It could be an interesting point but it doesn´t go deep. Too short and too out of context. Seams like the lesson is directed for the audience and not so much for the character of Rey. A real slap on the face on the fan base. 11. No trainning required to become a Jedi and to get powers you just have to download an app. Basically trainning and knowledge was replace by belief. 12. Even though Star Wars starts with a fairy tale opening "A long time ago in a Galaxy far, far away..." The whole frame of the story telling was based on a Legend frame work. Like La Morte d´Arthur... and not a fairy tale like Snow White. They failed both frames of story telling. All they needed to do is pick one. This way they could have marketed for the correct audience. Instead we get this mess. 13. Gratuitus Gotcha Moments 14. Lack of show dont tell. Dialogs and flashbacks.
All franchises end at somepoint. With the MCU at least we can say we got some kickass movies and it took a decade plus for burnout to hit. Star Wars hit burnout after only half that.
Xell Marvel still keeps their movies interesting due to them being in the MCU. Marvel didn't do anything so offensive that will turn ppeople off. Thor 3 I dislike. Inhumans was TV so it didn't affect the MCU or people good will towards Marvel. Marvel Studios has (for now) Kevin Feigne, which seems to love the universe Marvel is creating on screen. I hope MarvelStudios doesn't have their own Kathleen Kennedy... as in NEVER EVER.
This article was interesting and spells out a potential beginning of an end. ...Solo trailer was shrouded in lifeless slick imagery (Lando looks like a pump from a 70’s flick, another dude in a Chewy suit, and a non Harrison Solo...No thanks). I believe it will make some respectable cash but since it was made and paid for twice it will be as close to financial failure as a big studio can get. Disney knows ‘Solo’ was a mistake but their pride wouldn’t allow them to pull the project IMO. Star Wars burn-out is real people!
Excellent take. I always thought Star Wars was overrated, but after seeing the reaction to TLJ, I probably didn't realize the enduring qualities from the original trilogy. In other words, "you don't know what you've got til it's gone."
I'll defend one thing, and that's Rouge One. Not the film, but its take. As it was a spin ff and not a main film, the company never expected it to be s big as The Force Awakens.
I recall a time when Anakin Skywalker's Lightsaber was released for the Attack of the Clones line to retailers, and they were all but sold out the first day. Now Rey lightsabers are just collecting dust on toy pegs.
Wcb what are you talking about? Emilia Clarke will be the strong female who taught Han his ways.. mark my words. I think the trailer even showed his signature blaster and holster on HER hip
Even my 17 years old daughter HATES this new "Star Wars"... but the bright side in my case is she was introduced to the Feminist BS the right way: now she's aware.
Regarding the "Solo" teaser, as soon as I saw the Lucasfilm logo appear during the Super Bowl, I thought "I've got a bad feeling about this..." and when the teaser was over, I said: "Seriously..???" Nothing about it looks remotely interesting to me, and frankly I don't care anymore. Star Wars is dead to me.
LIST OF MARKETING FAILS 1- Better than Empire Strikes Back ( hahaha, oh wait, are you serious? ) 2- Rotten Tomatoes tomatometer starting at 94% ? ( wow, just wow ) 3- Subvert your expecations = a good movie ( humkay... no. Have you heard of branding? ) 4- Attack on the fan base. Negative response = haters. If you dont like the movie = racist and sexist ( are you nuts? ) 5- Denial and double down of the Mary Sue criticism ( no humility, fail to instruct your actors on the interviews) 6- Drop in China and wallstreet 7- Making Mark Hamill participate and apologize in interviews of a movie he did not like ( this could have been avoided ). 8- Market a fairy tale movie for an audience who was a expecting an epic legendary style of story telling. (Pick your audience, you cannot ride two horses at the same time) 9- Not stoping Rian Johson from making "sassy" remarks on twitter. 10- "Let the past die" much more directed at the audience rather than the character of Rey. What past? she doesn´t know her past in order for her to let it go. Leting go of something is very different than letting something die. The past is very important and has it´s place... in the past. No closure for Rey and a slap on the fans´ faces.
Schuky9 Well, it took 3 movies, but it didn't work for DC. Disney should take a page from it, but... DC mus be happy. The atrocity called TLJ and Solo took the eyes from the failed DCEU. 😂😂😂😂😂
the problem with the new movies is that they felt like fan fics... bad fan fics... with self insert characters in abundance. directionless plot in the last jedi. boring plot on the force awakens. tone shifts out of nowhere.
I have a solution for starwars Less Politics = Better Story Better Story = Better reviews Better reviews = More money Everyone knows this isn't going to happen.
I couldn't forgive how the heart of the franchise, Luke, was treated. This character meant everything to Mark and the real fans. RIP Star Wars.
Drew Letasse Agreed. I've never left a cinema gutted like that before
Yes, the treatment of Luke was disgraceful, from a soul and economic perspective. How do you sell modern Luke toys if he's dead to the fans?
Agreed. Will never see another SW
Luke Skywalker is one of the most bland, boring, overrated characters in the history of cinema. People only like him because: 1. He's a blank slate whom they can project themselves onto and 2. He's surrounded by cool characters like Han, Leia, Yoda, R2, etc. TLJ gave Luke actual character and made him a human being. Fans just don't like the idea of goodie two-shoes milquetoast Luke making mistakes and having faults.
I've rejected disney wars as glorified fanfiction for a long time, for many reasons. it isn't true to the original saga. tlj just confirmed it when they literally burned up the Jedi legacy and spat on Luke Skywalker. It's fanfic. I'm sticking with the EU (which was canon by the way, and Lucas approved it) and ignoring this crap that doesn't live up to the true Star Wars.
Kathleen Kennedy, TLJ and the direction of Star Wars killed any joy I had for the franchise. When the Solo teaser came out today I felt nothing... and that’s the future of SW, feeling nothing for it anymore.
You aren't alone. I watched the Solo trailer later night and could only think - how is Darth Bimbo (Kennedy) going to murder this story? We know that she has fired the original directors because they didn't tout her SJW / liberal agenda apparently.
Daniel Tuesta I think we need a new franchise one in the same fashion as starwars but doesn’t cater to sjw acolytes and politically correct culture it need some 80’s level of creativity. The problem with the industry is that it’s creator come from a blandness factory and when the realization hits them the shove the terrible ideology in the faces of their audience.
Daniel Tuesta they released a trailer? Going to flop so hard.
Great video exposing Kennedy here: th-cam.com/video/AXoc0I5x-VM/w-d-xo.html
we should all withhold going to solo for the first weeks until we hear that it's amazing.
These people are professional spin doctors. They must think Jedi mind tricks are real. They wave their hand and say "This movie isnt crap. These arent the numbers youre looking for."
OH MY FUCKING GOD I AM LAUGHING SO FUCKING MUCH HOLY SHIT :D
Commander Osis well played bro hhahahah
Yes, these aren't the numbers we're looking for.... DISNEY DUMBASS AND KATHLEEN AND THAT SITH DIRECTOR AND WRITER AND UGHHHHhhhh ( force chocke) ... Im dead...
On my twitter feed people were gushing over it. I thought WTF.
Brilliant. lol
Who saw the Solo trailer? Disneys fate is sealed, it was the first time I saw a Star Wars trailer and felt nothing, they’ve done and did it, they’ve killed my enthusiasm for the franchise.
Rakatan Lord lol remember they said in TLJ “Let the past go, kill it if you have to”. That’s what they are doing.
Alorha Baga and they have certainly succeeded. I see that line from the film used a lot to refer to Disney’s current actions with the way they are handling the franchise, I wonder if it was intentional on their part for the line to be perceived as their new manifesto 🤔
i did it was dog shit fuck
Rakatan Lord I believe they are using that line against us fans who see past their bullshit. Let the past die (not go -my mistake). The last part is that yes, they are killing it.
We should have known better when they done away with the books to create their own version. 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Alorha Baga I totally agree, I was and still am a huge fan of the expanded universe novels, even though disney says they aren’t canon any longer I still see them as canon, at least the books didn’t ruin or misrepresent the characters
Man what kills me is the potential for so many sick moments in the last jedi, they literally shit the bed in EVERY SINGLE scenario
I've never seen the middle-stage of a trilogy handled so poorly; burning down all the interesting plot points from the previous film and ruining old well-established characters, causing TLJ to simultaneously destroy the past legacy _and_ future prospects of the brand. TLJ felt like a rush-job end to a duology.
Yes, everytime a moment seemed it would become something special, they did something stupid before the scene was done.
Disney's Motto: Quantity over Quality.
Armageist Sad how it used to be the other way around
Yeah because the prequels were so good right?
Darkness1984 I still find them worth watching. There are way worse movies that were made
Darkness1984
I rewatched the prequels recently and despite all the flaws, and there are a lot not to mention how badly those movies aged in comparison of the original trilogy (despecialized ed) well, it's far better than TFA & TLJ,; at last the prequels were original stories and not awful remakes disguised in new movies.
And at the time I really didn't like the prequels, so no way to say I'm a prequel fan ;)
FemiNazi DIEversity over quality.
I remember when people were saying Jumanji was going to be hampered severly at the box office because it opened so close to Star Wars. Haha! #tablesturned
And I love the fact that Jumanji 2 is going head to head with Episode 9. Let's see who blinks first.
I heard they were hoping to time the release of Episode 9 to avoid having to compete with Emoji Movie 2: The Poopening
chris r That would be Jumanji 3, as the new Jumanji is actually a sequel to the 1995 film
I'm one of those people, and I was shocked how well it did against Star Wars.
chris r I really liked Jumanji
chris r Sony knew TLJ gonna suck, so they may their move, I love underdog stories like this
Star Wars will become the next Transformers but without the Chinese audience. So that means financially Transformers is the superior movie thanks Disney 😂.
& the last 1 kind of bombed lol
Star Wars has already become the Transformer movies (without the Chinese audience as you said). Defenders of Episode 8 usually say "The plot was inconsistent and the cast was iffy but the visuals were nice, and the movie entertained me. That's the point of a movie for me, so it was good". They literally describe the Transformer movies! All flash, no substance.
Solo trailer was predictable, highly sanitized, a really rotten looking cosplay of adult children trying to fill the shoes of actual great actors. It's a pretty disgusting cash grab. Disney is just running SW into the ground. Overseas market is dead to them, Disney to fix things need to vault the Solo film, release a subpar E9 and vault the entire franchise for 15-20 years and let it cool and hand it to writers, directors and producers that actually give a damn.
Shit, they need to retcon the un-canoning of the SWEU novels, fanfics, lore, wikis and art and avail themselves of whatever parts of it they want...for FREE. Hell, it's already got a built in fan base and gives them proven-attractive characters, timeline and set of stories.
The trailer also shows either Disney has no confidence the actor for Han Solo can do his role or the actor is so bad they took so long to cut a trailer without showing his face. Cause you figure you would show more then back of Han Solo head... his only face shot is heavily obscured.
It has nothing to do with any of that. Its not Star Wars fatigue it was just a bad movie. Its not bad acting its a bad script. Rogue One was actually a pretty decent movie. People came back to see that and it did well in China.
It had a terrible plot as well. The leadership in the First Order and Resistance were both terrible.
Rogue One was a vulgar action movie that makes no sense in the context of Episode IV.
I love how this channel spreads the message on how Darth Mickey...I mean Disney is handling one of the most greatest universes ever made it really hurts my heart seeing Star Wars mistreated like trash cause of Kennedy and her unoriginal ideas along with Rian Johnson and of course Disney keep it up bro
DC COMICS MARVEL COMICS , Darth Disney.
I also luv how that the channel flashes those bozos from Collider lol
I also luv how that the channel flashes those bozos from Collider lol
There's an easy solution...it's called not giving a fuck. Try it out sometime, works wonders for me. Just ignore everything Disney does and like the real Star Wars, as it was pre-2012. Don't pretend for a minute that the Disney era is canon. It's not and never has been a part of Lucas' vision or the Star Wars saga. So...who cares what they do? It's just for profit, not story. It need not concern you.
Don't forget JJ. He needs a lot of blame also because of the way he started the trilogy with Rey, Finn & cheaply wrote Luke out of EP7 to make Rey a "star"
"The Skywalker Saga" hahahhahahahahaha... Right. That saga was killed stone dead in front of millions.
Kylo Ren is a pretty thin peg to hang the 'Skywalker saga' label on.
Especially as there is no way they'd allow his redemption with the ham fisted way it's been handled so far.
It's supposed to be about Vader, so RotJ is end of story. If it's not,, it's about the Skywalkers. If not, then it's about Jedi. Yet they've managed to ignore everything the saga's about.
I’m not seeing Solo or episode 9 in theaters. And I’m not buying TLJ on blu ray.
Not even worth pirating.
Amen to that. Same here
your loss
TLJ was the only SW movie I didn't watch in theaters. And I don't plan on seeing the Solo movie at all.
likewise. so sad, but the truth. star wars blows now.
Rian's excuse for not including a funeral scene for Han Solo in TLJ is pathetic.
Star Wars Battlefront 2 only sold 7 million copies. Half of what the first game did.
they probably would have had the sales if they didn't have the loot box gambling and saying you cannot have pink darth vader yet in the game code look what we have here!
I was already boycotting EA when the first one came out. Lots of my buddies bought it. No one I know bought BF2. They all felt well shafted by the first one, and they didn't like it much.
We all still very much like the original Star Wars trilogy. We eagerly awaited Force Awakens. Half of us haven't even seen Last Jedi. Best thing about this is that people are now more open to accept the truth of bs social justice destroying franchises and industries.
It was definitely the P2W loot boxes. I myself am not a Star Wars fan and was looking into buying the game. But once the reports started coming out from the Early Access about how the progression is directly tied to the loot boxes, I backed off buying it immediately.
I said I'd buy BF2 if it had a good campaign to it... Oops, it was crap.
I got bored after 24 hrs with the game. I return it the next day.
Disney: I have lowered the quality of Star Wars, pray I do not lower it further
Mr Supreme. You will. count on it.
If there's money to be made you will.
Mr Supreme Then they made Ranger Solo... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm getting sick of the shit I love being ruined. Starwars was special. It needed to end at 6. That's the magic. We get to make up our own stories on what happened after.
Mr Supreme How? How the hell could it be any lower than it is? Maybe after the Solo movie falls.
The new trilogy is biggest missed opportunity in cinematic history. Could have been beyond epic.
When Chewie put his hand on Han's shoulder... It was depressing.
Because that wasn’t really Han
It was a Skrull imposter. The true Han is Harrison Ford and that's how it'll ALWAYS be no matter how much Disney tries to say otherwise.
Lastand Films That wasn't Han Solo. It was Jake Solo
Would be lol if Disney cans everyone in charge and reboots 7-9 with Lucas' original ideas.
That might need a bit of a rewrite now that Carrie Fisher has passed, although the focus should’t be solely on the original cast.
Who needs a rewrite? They have CGI!
Or just new actors for the old roles.
Gus Oxenham
Give me a billion dollars and I'll like whatever you want me to. George Lucas is probably contractually obligated to speak in positive terms about the Disney Star Wars movies and merchandise. Doesn't change the fact that his vision of the sequels would have been superior to what we have now.
Yoshi Kato Well to be fair Lucas didn't look too pleased at the release of TFA. Which makes him liking, or supposedly liking if you insist, TLJ interesting.
I expect episode 9 will have Chewbacca die off screen then his body will be made into a rug just a last fu to the fans who disagree with Fucus film's and Disney's handling of the franchise
Don't underestimate the toxic garbage what Disney churns out. Oh they'll go one better than that my friend. They will kill Chewie and destroy the Falcon.
I would like to see them do that. It couldn't ruin the franchise any more than they already have. I was a huge fan for 20 years but could care less since The Last Jedi. Didn't see Solo and may or may not see IX.
It's over everyone. Pack your bags, go home. Hibernate. Maybe in 20 years a new franchise will rise to boil our blood red hot again.
Nexus Verbal But we need to fight it! The rebellion was built on hope!
In 20 years everyone will be a grandpa / grandma!!!!
Nexus Verbal maybe someone who actually know Starwars could direct that movie
I supported them in Rogue One but not this time, i won't see Han Solo because of what they have done in the Last Jedi.
MARK MY WORDS! When they finally do get rid of Steven Spielberg's secretary the best we can hope for is someone who will do a reboot of the franchise. Disney has major internal problems with creativity and direction that have been pointed out by major shareholders for over a decade now. It hides these problems by buying out other creative interests and milking them dry. It's basically playing musical chairs with creative properties. Eventually it is going to run out of cash or properties.
Star Wars fatigue is almost as bad as feminism fatigue.
Not to mention the OT had about 3 years between films, could take stock and adjust things, Disney released a horribly ideologically dirven film in TLJ, and they are too far in production in their other films like Solo to take the seist Misandrist cringe out and arrest the downward momentum
Yeah, that old time gap between films revived my interest each time.
I think even 2 years would be acceptable if not for the spinoff films and cartoons like Star Wars Rebels being pumped out simultaneously. There's just too much Star Wars and it's not special anymore. When the original Clone Wars cartoon came out it was a big deal because it was more canon Star Wars stories and bridged the gap between Episodes 2 and 3 and also fixed a lot of the plotholes in the prequels. With so much at once you can't really build the hype.
Its funny how antithetical the line from "The Last Jedi" is to Disney's entire business model, while illuminating their creator's own self loathing. Disney makes its money off of the history they have either created or bought; and should they let the past die, they destroy themselves in the process... Yet, they still go ahead and try to do it.
More specifically, by forsaking the past of a franchise and what people enjoyed about the series, they incur the wrath of the fans, who promptly abandon the company for what it did to it.
I only know one truth. It is time for Star Wars to end. Let the past die. Kill it if you have to.
Disney is relentless. If the franchise is not destroyed, it will be shitty Star Wars movies without end.
Every single Disney movie, including your hoped for, Obi-Wan Kenobi movie, is now an enemy of True Star Wars.
First, we must boycott the Solo movie. We must catch them off balance.
Do what must be done, Star Wars fan. Do not hesitate. Show no mercy.
Allen Linnen Jr... Only then will we be strong enough with the fanbase to save the franchise...lol
There is no way I would pay for this Micky-mouse crap.
Allen Linnen, Jr. Exactly let the franchise die, to me it died at ep 6 and while I had some enjoyment with rogue one..it's just best to stop but ofc Disney and it's cancerous SJWs ruined it so hard.
And then. We shall have ... peace.
You're right, it must done.
That new solo teasers gave me chills
Of terror...
Rian ended the Skywalker legacy in one fell swoop. Guess the reporter didn't bother to see TLJ speeder wreck. For those of us who didn't see it either Luke is still alive.
What's sad is... Disney decided that all of the great extended universe stuff no longer mattered and pretty much never existed. To me, everything from Special Edition up to the last jedi isn't canon to me... but Star Wars Holiday Special IS!!
... Hell, it's still better than the last 6 films :(
SJW toys doesn't sell, hasn't Disney leaned that from Marvel Comics? Star Wars was the only comic that wasn't infected much by SJWness. The proof is that they don't even have comics for any of the new characters other than a series with Poe Dameron and a short of Captain Phasma.
But that's because the original trilogy time period is "safe".
shit, i knew things aint gonna go well when they killed the EU, not happy with TFA, dissapointed with Rogue, and TLJ was the straw that broke my back
tfa broke my back, and i only saw it cuz my friend made me borrow (well i kinda wanted to see it but i already looked up the plot and story and whatever so i knew it sucked) tfa..... i thought it wasn't as bad as i originally thought, but at the same time, the story sucked ass.... then i kept getting the response "o 8 will explain 7, make it better"...................... so they agree its not a good stand alone movie, if 7 was by itself, it sucks..... its stupid to think "o the sequel will make it better" historically sequels suck worse than the original..... and tlj didn't disappoint there.... the only movie that i think blew people away and was a sequel was "the dark knight"..... tfa was like "theh dark knight rises".... where is the joker?/knights of ren? how did batman get the nuke out in time?/ how the absolute fuck did rey do all that force abiilties, but at the start she couldn't even get more food "last week it was afull portion".... y is she always drawing her blade/ attacking people first, thats the sign of a sith...... i can keep going but i think u get the point..... when i watchd the movie, my jaw dropped when solo tried to give her a gun, and she said "i can take care of myself" bitch........ what about taking care of others? solo offering her a job? all she wanted to do was go back to her home, y did she stick around?
maybe this quote will help how i reached this point
"No! No! I will not sacrifice the Enterprise. We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats. They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again! The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done!" Jean-Luc Picard
I know, its from Star Trek
I divorced myself entirely after Disney shitcanned the EU in its entirety.
That should have been the single biggest warning sign imaginable for fans. It was a move that said Disney were willing to throw **everything** in the trash for the sake of convenient (read: hack) writing and marketing. Lo and behold, that's EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.
Should Star Wars flop, it will be because of weak writing and pushing (Ma)Rey Sue cardboard cutouts in place of solid characters. Turns out, marketing alone cannot carry a franchise to new heights, not even Star Wars, indefinitely.
I would have had no issue if they had made the EU a separate timeline, but declaring it all non-cannon and refusing to allow authors to add to it wasn't a good sign.
Wait till the next "Disney" Star War "solo" - vomit that is coming.
It's not Star Wars fatigue. It's BAD Star Wars fatigue. If the movies were awesome, we wouldn't be seeing the decline of the franchise. The not so subtle injection of SJW crap has poisoned the movies, just as it did for Marvel Comics.
Welp, good game, and this. Everybodys on the same page boys. That Solo teaser.... what the hell?
It felt like a young Indiana Jones vibe. Very underwhelmed by it to say the least.
SOLO could turn out to be a good movie I still won't pay to see it after the bullshit they let fly with EP8 as far as I'm concerned they could never make another movie Im over it
If at any point they use the "I'm Han Solo" song, I'd consider seeing it
Stephanie Janiczek hi😉
Dee lunarfox hiding Ehrenreich to. That first real look... a ginger? Ugh!
I've been telling people that Disney perfectly embodies the parable of the Golden Goose.
#BoycottDisney
Nope.
Krazy Joe
Disney shill, or you really just a bourgeois dork?
If I knew what you meant, I'd answer. I'm just a big Star Wars fan that is glad that Disney and Kathleen Kennedy saved the franchise and actually started making good Star Wars again after the prequel trilogy almost killed any enthusiasm I had for the series.
Disney has simply been knocking it out of the park again and again between Star Wars, Marvel and Pixar. I wish to God they'd give us more Muppets and Tron and less live action adaptations of their animated films, but whatever. So long as the Star Wars and Marvel films continue to be as good as they have been, I'll happily shill for them.
Krazy Joe
Too bad you don't have the Internet to look up big words.
Kathleen Kennedy is a cultural war criminal. Obviously you haven't watched the video in which this comment thread is posted. Under Kathleen Kennedy's leadership, Star Wars is losing a fortune, and Solo will lose money too. Eventually Bob Iger will be forced to jettison this toxic woman and find someone who knows how to make a good film.
Oh, I watched the video...this guy posting the video is just a jackwagon. The 'toxic woman' just made three great Star Wars films in a row., And Disney is literally Scrooge McDuckin' in their money bin with the billion dollar gross of Last Jedi so so much for 'Star Wars losing a fortune'.
Disney overexposed Star Wars to the point that seeing Star Wars merchandise everywhere becomes incredibly annoying. Star Wars needs to be put to rest in it's grave after Episode 9 flops at the box office next year.
Yes Episode 9 The Return Of The Mary Sue will flop and so will the Han Solo movie too just like The Last Turd did.
LOLOLOL!!! XD XD XD Man you are either a delusional soyboy or a paid shill for Disney.
No need to worry about that, it's already on course to flop I'd say.
I feared this might happen when Disney bought the franchise. However, they do a good job with Marvel so I kept my hopes up that they may give Star Wars good treatment. I was wrong and agree that Star Wars needs to be put to rest after IX. It's sad because what as a major part of my life for 20 years is dead. R.I.P. Star Wars 1977-2017.
Disney is so fucking stupid handling star wars so poorly. Owning the star wars license is literally a permit to print money, all they had to do was handle it with some care and make the fans happy! how hard was it to hire some competent writers and form a coherent vision for a proper trilogy??? The last jedi is like amateur hour.
Instead of focusing on "diversity" and women in the story group, Lucasfilm should have hired the best and most beloved authors of the EU novels, games, and comics to create a new direction. Those authors kept Star Wars alive when there were no films and they made great contributions to Star Wars.
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Bioware orginal writter to Mass effect..
If Disney had any fucking sense they'd can Kennedy and put Filoni in charge! but they don't want a Star Wars guy in charge.
The Force is Female, y'all.
They might be sending Han Solo to die so they can can Kennedy. Disney has purposely killed its own movies before.
domehammer - They already killed Han Solo in The Force Awakens.
Well Infinity War is May the 4th followed by Deadpool 2 on the 18th the apologists can make up the movie sales Im sure they have so much buying power as evidence on the merchandise
The writing is on the wall. "You have been weighed in the balances and found wanting Disney......."
Too many characters to care about. The new 3, the old 3, the new vader, the 9 people who got the plans... What's next, the story of Jabba the Hut's cousin from the Hutt planet? It definitely needs to be slowed down. Maybe a new movie every 4- 5 years.
Ad Lockhorst You mean Graballa the Hutt? He's cool.
The pace would be ok if they were good stories, but it is all just micky-mouse crap.
Until SJW Kathleen Kennedy is removed, there is no hope for Star Wars.
Its strange how I much I appreciate this thread from this channel. These videos seem to be badly needed given, what I see as corruption from Disney.
Kathleen Kennedy reminds me of the Handicapper General.
Moff Weiskiller
She reminds me of the turd the homeless guy left in the parking garage!
Nice Vonnegut ref. 255 internet points!!
That's probably the most incisive take down of Kennedy I can think of, bar none. Well done good sir!
BrooklynRedLeg thank you. 2081 is where we're going as a society. WCBS is our Harrison Bergeron.
Star Wars fatigue is not a real thing. Shitty Star Wars products are tho
Velancious You're exactly right! That's exactly what happened. 👏
Sorry its an EXACT copy of ROTJ Rey is Luke in everything she does everything he did the bs subversive plot argument is nonsense plain and simple its a copy way more than TFA was. It has both ESB and ROTJ scenes copy and pasted.
Solo teaser looks decent, but then again, so did The Last Jedi trailers. I really hope it’s at least as good as Rogue One and can make up for Rian Johnson’s abomination.
I'd doubt it. However, the same reviewers that were positive about "The Last Jedi (to be made before the franchise tanked, that would be Rose)" will definitely kiss up to Mickey Mao again on this turd.
United Communications unltd. Well, I liked Rogue One, so I’m hoping I’ll enjoy this one too. Any movies past Episode VI are not canon in my book, after Rian Johnson destroyed the sequel trilogy. Jar Jar Abrams is also partially to blame with his “Safe Wars The Feminist Awakens” getting the new trilogy off to a bumpy start.
United Communications unltd. , "Micky Mao" like Chairman Mao but Disney version???
Same with me anything past Episode 6 is not canon!
By Mao, I mean as in Zedong. Also, ESPN is spouting off the same left-wing politics, as well as having the same politics seep into everything they do inside the Anglosphere, meaning it's something to do with Disney as a whole, since you don't see many studios forcing their politics down everyone's throat. Then again, Paramount, Lionsgate, MGM (the studio formerly known as United Artists), and Gravitas Ventures don't keep everything old behind paywalls or have borderline paranoia levels of content protection forcing people to pirate their crap.
I think Disney will keep screwing this up to the point where they will sell the franchise and if George Lucas is smart he will buy it back for a fraction of what they paid for it and redo these movies totally removing Disney and air garbage from Cannon or at least have someone he trusts do them then maybe the franchise can be saved
Philemon Amaranth we can only hope that happens
Lucas will never buy it back, not after all the fan backlash he got for the Prequels. You know kind like the backlash Disney is getting now.
he sold it because he felt too old to continue. And, he's got a young kid he'd rather take care of. He said it takes 10 years (for him) to make a trilogy, and he can't. That's why sold his franchise - not to only rake in billions (which he spends on charity), but to secure the future of his employees. 2000, last I heard.
So no, George will not return - Star Wars stays in the dark side for now.
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Heh, he gives how much to charity? Cause I think if I had four billion in the bank, I'd give 10% of the interest to charity...and I bet that's what George does too...it's easy money.
Something tells me that if Star Wars Movies keeps on flopping, Disney would probably resell the franchise to a different studio, like Warner Bros, and or Paramount Pictures. I wish Paramount could give up the Transformers movies. Fuck Michael Bay.
I don't think Paramount is doing well either. Transformers gets diminishing returns (it's now Police Academy financially), Star Trek has outright bombed, and they're owned by the Chinese anyways.
Cynical Joker There was a TMNT 2?
They're not going to sell it. They'll just shelve it and milk franchise for re-release and merchandising revenue.
I was being facetious. Their other movies are so bad no one remembers them.
Alberto Arras Good thing Travis Knight, the director of Kubo. Is going to direct the Bumblebee spinoff film.
I can't believe people are still blinded at Star Wars' current state after the clusterfuck that TLJ was. With all those people getting excited by the new Solo teaser, I just wonder if they are just regular moviegoers or just super fans of Disney in general. To me, if you have any sort of respect for Star Wars and more precisely for the character of Han you just can't see anything exciting about that movie. Especially these days with all the SJW & Political correctness agenda bullshit that infested our beloved franchises.
Most are regular moviegoers but you can't expect to discourage everyone from watching these films.
Legomanarthur most are normies that will eat anything mainstream and don't think about the content or agendas in the film.
Gonna wait and see the movie reviews on "Solo" before I even think about seeing it and I really don't want to give Disney any of my money.
Even a HINT that they're trying to destroy the Solo character like they did Luke I won't even see it once.
Trollificusv2 They already did in "The Farce Awakens" dying like a bitch at the hands of his own son (at least have him go down in a hail of gunfire in a shootout with some thugs!) Their goal is to destroy everything that Lucas created and make it their own creation. They want to make movie's that appeal to the "millennials" and spit in the face of the lifelong diehard fans. The new generation won't be into it like the older generation, or they will until the next Pokemon game comes out, then it will be forgotten.
B DOG buy a ticket for some other movie and go into "Solo."
Films are supposed to be emotional experiences. The huge error everyone made about Star Wars (arguably even George Lucas) was that the effects and action were it's biggest draw. The effects were great (in the OT anyway) but unless the effects and action are backed up with credible characters you might as well be watching a fireworks display. If you leave the theatre without feeling emotionally fulfilled in some way then the film has failed.
I'm speaking as someone who writes screenplays and prose, has directed three short films picked up by several film festivals and I plan to make my feature debut next year. This isn't an opinion, it is based upon my training. For years I was trying to work out why my scripts didn't work but, for some odd reason, my prose stories did. People really connected with my prose writing emotionally but I couldn't get the same reaction when I wrote a script.
My scripts were all for concept based films, and I'd discover later that what they were missing were credible character arcs. When I started writing character oriented scripts suddenly I found that people connected emotionally to the script when they read it. Where did I get this idea that it was all about the idea, effects and action? That's right, from modern Hollywood films. They're leading everyone to grow up thinking that is the be all and end all of storytelling and I say that that's not even the start.
When Irvin Kershner directed The Empire Strikes Back he was allowed to do whatever he wanted (a bit like Rian Johnson). He was one of Lucas's tutors in film-making so I don't see him contradicting his teacher anyway. Kershner decided to focus on the development of the characters, he did that because he knew how important the characters were and how the audience can only really get behind characters and feel the tension in the action scenes if they cared about the characters. Thus the priority of any storyteller (not just film-maker) should always be the characters (incidentally, if you ever wondered why you felt The Empire Strikes Back was the best Star Wars film, that's why, it's better written and the directorial focus is on the characters).
This is a lesson Rian Johnson needs to learn, rather than destroying characters to make his silly concept based film work the way he'd written it. I can't believe personally, as a writer myself, that he calls himself a 'writer/director' - that is an insult to writers frankly.
You could put two characters dressed in robes in a cave, make a whole film in there with little to no visual effects or action. If you wrote the characters well enough you could still make an engaging film, you could still make a film that could be accepted as a Star Wars film by everyone who rejected The Last Jedi. Stay within the story world rules established over all the previous films, give your characters goals that we can all understand and make those characters' behaviour consistent and credible, and Star Wars fans wouldn't reject it.
I try to tell this to people on pro-Star Wars videos. I try to explain concepts of storytelling going back thousands of years. Their retort is always, 'That's just your opinion.' No, it's not my opinion. I didn't go through all that education to learn opinions. There are objective standards that stories, on film or in books, should be held to - standards that most films were held to until recently, now that its all about 'fan service', its all about reselling emotional journeys we're nostalgic about.
Fan service will die out when it becomes less profitable. Nostalgia fatigue we'll all suffer from in the end. Then, when they want to try and repeat that formula with a new generation, they're going to come to an awful disheartening conclusion - that because they're pushing so few original films now, there will be nothing for the next generation to get nostalgic about.
Sir, you truly know your job. Or at least how it should be based.
THAT approach is what is missing in this late years about films and storytelling: shiny visuals are nice if they complete a good story, not if they are theonly thing present in a movie.
I hope you'll got all the fortune you'll deserve with your futur projects...
(I was in young age devoted to build my own stories as comics: it never become a job, but I come across your exact "problems" and I know exactly the very same process you described baout "character development". I could not agree more...)
Awww, I appreciate your sentiment. In truth I'm surprised anyone took the time to read one of my essays, that's not usual. Attention spans on the Internet tend to be very short.
That is unfortunately true. I appreciated reading what you said and wish you great success bringing engaging stories with character development to future generations.
Megalonyx Awww thanks. It's always nice to know someone took the time read one of my essays.
As for The Wall Street Journal, the Reason its honest is because its only interested in the Money and Business side of things. Collide and other places like it are on the fan and entertainment arena, and make money by Fans tuning in. They need Star Wars to stay fresh or else eventually even Hate Posts won't sustain it.
People will simply walk away from Star Wars, and a Huge chunk of their Viewership will decline.
Wall Street Journal helps people make investments. One doesn't need t be a Fan of Star Wars to buy Lucasfilm or Disney stock, ad one needs to know if the company is declining in sales. If The Wall Street Journal says Star Wars is Great and doing well, and people invest only to loose money, or even make less back on their investment, and its because The Wall Street Journal lied to hem, then they are hit.
As to the Rotten Tomatoes Score, I don't Think you read the article quiet right in that regard. While The Last Jedi is standing at 48% Audience Score right ow, in its opening weekend it saw 75%, and lowered to the 60's after the first week, and by the end of its second week was down to 57%. It was a gradual decline, but if you are discussing opening week only, it was actually doing well with generally favourable fan reviews.
As soon as Disney announced they would produce a new Star Wars movie every year, i KNEW they would water the brand down so badly people would lose interest. I just never expected it to happen so quickly. Kathleen Kennedy has destroyed the franchise.
I don't know anything, but if I was in charge of Disney Star Wars I would of ordered:
A Cable TV Show based in the Old Republic;
A Streaming show, maybe an X Wing Rogue Squadron show
An animated series based on Star Wars Dark Empire comics
Movies written by Timothy Zahn and other successful Star Wars authors
6:40 people give the prequels a lot of flack for being different from 4-6, but the prequels didn't have MGTOW Luke or Luke milking a space turtle. I hope that over time the fans can come to love 1-3 for doing their own thing.
As much as Luke whined, caring about his friends in Empire Strikes Back was relatable, and it's not as if Luke got rewarded for whining, and neither did Anakin.
Bring back Jar Jar binks. Damn. I just said that.
I would have preferred no more Star Wars movies rather than shitty ones.
I'm still mad I spent money on TLJ and now it's a Solo movie? We must kill this franchise before Disney does. Please try not to see this, or at least skip the first weekend if you are not amused with this unfan fiction.
Selling Lucasfilm was the smartest financial decision George Lucas ever made. Now he can sit back and point at Disney laughing his ass off.
The teaser for Solo is all show and no meat. We already know they can do show, it's the meat we need to see.
I realize this is going to sound sexist. But the worst thing Disney did was pass the movie to a female lead.
Now i have no problem with a female lead, or a male lead being replaced by a female lead.
But Star Wars isn't just a movie franchise. It's also a toy franchise. And as much as we may hate it the fact is boy's do not want to play with what they consider to be girl's toy's.
I remember as a kid not wanting to buy any of the girl power rangers or x-men toys even though they were my favorite shows. I'm long past that mindset now but as a kid i had no interest in action figures of female characters.
If anyone can name a toy series where the lead was switched from a boy to a girl and did not suffer from it please let me know; because I'm drawing a blank.
True. Problem is not the gender of the character, but how the character is.
shadowspider9 it's not exactly the answer to your question but its the only thing close I can think of is, my little pony use to be a toy for little girls and now I'm pretty sure mostly greasy old men buy the toys.
shadowspider9 girl out grow their toys quicker too not to mention.
@Chris L: I guess you are referring to the collector's market. That's slightly different than the millions of children who are the bulk of the market (and the real goldmines of any sane toy's industry). The point is: would a modern 8-10 y.o. boy buy "my little pony", if they were still made for girls, and with girls on the tv / internet ads? I'd say nope!
Seriously??? Who here did not suspect truly epic buggery when we saw the chick flick lead. We all knew. So don't be ashamed to say it folks. BS power chicks are crap to watch. And we're sick of it.
Actually you're wrong about the Jaina Solo figure you can't find her anywhere have you seen how much she is on Amazon and eBay. She was the winner of the 2016 black series poll so you're wrong about no one wanting the Jaina Solo figure but other than that everything in this video was correct.
There's a site here in England with lots left.... otherwise yeah hard to get without paying at least double the RRP
Interesting that it is a Legends character and not one of Lucasfilm/Disney new ones though. I think that should be telling right there.
It's been either OT characters or characters related to the old EU like Thrawn, Jania, and Revan that sell while Rey, Finn, Jyn, Kassian, Kylo, etc rot on shelves.
One each of the Rogue One cast is all anyone would need - perhaps a couple of extras for other outfits - but otherwise nah Cassian is just going to shelf warm with Miss. Ursa. They might be able to get some repeat business with K2S0 but Rogue One's cast has a huge disadvantage "They are all dead"
Goku Black prequel ones sell too... Maybe not as much as original trilogy but a lot better than Disney wars ones
True story, was in Walmart the other day by the toy section. Couple of employees and manager were moving some stuff around. Literally heard the manager say, “get that shit outta here”. She was referring to those stupid force link wrist mounted things. Really made my day
Today’s been a pretty good Sunday...
The only way for Disney Save Star Wars:
1. Fire Kathleen Kennedy.
2. Fire J.J Abrams.
3.Get a ton of money and make George Lucas an offer that he can not refuse.
I saw The Force Awakens for just three bucks on TH-cam and even less at my local Ollie’s! Meanwhile there are still stores selling the prequels for more
Camillo Giuliett
The prequels are hard to find in my neck of the woods.
The second that Disney acquired SW, It was the beginning of the end. If you remember Buena Vista Productions, They were always sappy and tried to convey their 'moral' messages. RIP Star Wars. Maybe Disney can sell the brand to CBS.
I don’t like them putting SJW messages on the screen that turns the frigging franchise gay!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Guh! Guh! Guh! I’m sick of this crap!!!!
lmao! Nice Alex jones reference.
Last Jedi got dropped in China after 2 weeks ... gives me Total recall flashbacks. th-cam.com/video/9SqM1VX2qlc/w-d-xo.html
I can only imagine all the SW fanatics with Kathleen Kennedy at the helm repeating "2 weeks" in horror. Star Wars as a movie franchise was done and complete with Return of the Jedi and ever since then any new movies are just the longest running story of milking the fossilized skeleton of a beaten dead horse in movie history.
funny . the 30 years of the EU would like a word with you.
ian giovanni if you read it again i was specifically talking about it as a movie franchise, not all the additional content -comics, books, games and so on. I know about the EU since up to a point i had read most of the EU as a child. And to be honest most eu books are forgettable garbage that could also be refered to as milking the brand. There are only a tiny few i really like. If you like scifi books then there are far better choices outside the star wars realm. The eu's biggest problem is the Force where it is treated as a cure all for everything, a get out of jail free card whenever the writer writes himself into a corner he can't get out of.
The magic is gone, it's just....gone. What the heck happened to that magical feeling I got whenever I watched a new Star Wars movie? Oh that's right, SJ freakin Ws got ahold of this series.
Steven Mathews Yeah. The magic died the moment Kennedy was named
SOLO trailer looked like shit. They showed the girl and lando more than Han. Just absolute garbage.
I wish I had your problems. I've vowed that thew Jaina solo figure shall be the last star Wars Merch I ever buy unless Disney gets their act together, but I can't find the bloody thing anywhere.
Purchase all Legends figures. Save up to buy the older figures that are more expensive on Amazon. Buy the Legends books and graphic novels. Keep it alive and show that there are people want them!
Josiah Araki Listen to my boy Thrawn.
Strategic as ever Thrawn.
Grand Admiral Thrawn. Don't call it Legends, that's how Disney dismissively refers to the Expanded Universe; which is what it should be called.
Grand Admiral Thrawn A clever plan as usual Grand Admiral
Uh... Lucas didn't _really_ know that after Return of the Jedi it was time to "rest the trilogy". He was just fuckin' sick of it.
He'd ended up ghost-directing Jedi (which was _not_ what he'd intended to do) and his wife (who'd spent years begging him to take time off) had just left him for the guy who'd installed the huge sky-light at Skywalker Ranch. Star Wars, and his obsessive attachment to the details of it had just cost him his marriage, and his previous plans to expand, expand, expand until there were 12 movies, just kinda disappeared, because: fuck everything. Not because he instinctively knew that _it_ needed a rest to avoid over-saturating the market. It was _him_ that needed the rest.
Well, in this particular instance, George's insistence that the opening of Empire be _exactly_ the same, beat for beat as it was for Star Wars meant that he wouldn't put Irvin Kershner's credit there. The directors guild let Lucas get away with doing that for Star Wars because it was a small detail of what was thought to be a small movie (until it opened), and _he_ was the director. Plus his name did kind of appear inside the word "Lucasfilm".
But they warned him about doing that again for Empire... and he did it anyway. And they ended up fining Kershner for allowing that to happen. Lucas paid the fine for him (which was actually only like a 4-digit figure), but blamed the studio system in general for enforcing their clearly-stated rules. So he dropped out of the directors guild out of spite, and therefor could not bring in his friend Steven Spielberg to direct Return of the Jedi (yes, that was supposed to be a thing).
Instead he had to hire someone who _wasn't_ in the guild. Someone who couldn't speak English and deferred back to Lucas for virtually every decision. Meanwhile, back at the ranch...
Details to be found here sfdebris.com/videos/special/shadowsjourney.php but it _will_ be time-consuming.
Yet another franchise I would buy to save from dumbasses if I could.
Rensune I’d like to buy the Disney company and save it.
SJWs: You don’t understand you butt hurt fanboys! Turning Luke and Han into the opposite of what they are is good because it’s subversive!
Me: So for Black Panther if Tchalla turns out to be a white man who uses high tech to hide his ethnicity as otherwise he would be killed by his black power, black ethnocentric state subjects that would be good since it’s subjective?
SJWs: No! It’s good that Black Panther is a neo isolationist and a black supremacist only because he is black, so check your white privilege.
Me: The mail office must be on strike since I didn’t get my white privilege check in the mail.
It’s good that I still haven’t bothered to watch TLJ, really feels like I missed nothing.
Tyrannosaurus Rex Same here.
DO NOT BOTHER!
Leave SW ends at "The Return of The Jedi".
If you ever look TLJ, even if you cherished the Original Trilogy, it will feel killed and you will remember the Crap-Sequels...
:.. it will be like the day that someone revealed to you that Santa Claus is not existing. The end of your innocence.
I feel like you've missed out on something big. You have nowhere near the appreciation for how badly this series has been treated as someone that has suffered through it while scrutinizing the experience. Come share in our pain!
To those who can't read the Wall Street journal, I'm gonna suggest an addon called "Bypass Paywalls". It's an addon for Firefox and Chromium-based browsers designed to get past the paywalls of these kind of financial news sites. Just get into the addon's settings, tick the sites you aren't a subscriber of, save your settings, and on the next load of a NYT article, you're reading it as a guest.
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when my gf went to see tlj, she was the only one in the theater, i was embarrassed as a star wars fan.
They thought with Star Wars they had a permanent Pavlov's dog set up. They only had to show the Star Wars emblem and the fans would start drooling and handing them money. The fact that they had no plans and nothing to build towards in the current trilogy really killed stuff. The films are kind of aimless now with no real purpose other than to show new characters and spaceships for toys. Oh yeah and hopefully get folks to visit the Star Wars amusement parks for lots of forced corporate fun.
Funnily enough I haven't even seen the last Jedi yet.
Lord Fenix 17 You’re not missing much.
Spare yourself the misery
Don't. It's two and a half hours of your life you won't be getting back.
Don't. Remember it as it was.. Once you have seen it you can never in-see it and the world will be a darker place. Remember fondly what was. Never see TLJ.
Lord Fenix 17 Neither have I. And I won't see it.
Solo: looks even worse than I feared
Ep 9: just don't have a shred of interest after the piss-take that was Ep 8.
LOL TOMMY LOST THE SUPER BOWL
You asswipe, some of us havent seen the game yet. WHAT THE FUCK has your comment got to do with a Star Wars video!!????
Did I miss anything? List of Last Jedi fails:
1. The Hero’s Journey
2. Character development ( one dimensional characters )
3. Pacing
4. Too many undeveloped plot points
5. SJW stuff
6. Continuity to Force Awakens and any other Star Wars film.
7. The Force theme: No temptation to turn to the Dark side and no Fear when facing the Dark Side. “He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster . . . when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you” ― Friedrich Nietzsche
8. Stakes - at no point we fear for the heros lives
9. Out of place humor
10. Force learning contradictions among many other contradictions. Both Luke and Kylo teach the same thing... let go of the past, be in the present. It could be an interesting point but it doesn´t go deep. Too short and too out of context. Seams like the lesson is directed for the audience and not so much for the character of Rey. A real slap on the face on the fan base.
11. No trainning required to become a Jedi and to get powers you just have to download an app. Basically trainning and knowledge was replace by belief.
12. Even though Star Wars starts with a fairy tale opening "A long time ago in a Galaxy far, far away..." The whole frame of the story telling was based on a Legend frame work. Like La Morte d´Arthur... and not a fairy tale like Snow White. They failed both frames of story telling. All they needed to do is pick one. This way they could have marketed for the correct audience. Instead we get this mess.
13. Gratuitus Gotcha Moments
14. Lack of show dont tell. Dialogs and flashbacks.
i think it will happen to Marvel as well. Even the biggest diehard comic fan will have enough of superhero movies one day
All franchises end at somepoint. With the MCU at least we can say we got some kickass movies and it took a decade plus for burnout to hit. Star Wars hit burnout after only half that.
Xell Marvel still keeps their movies interesting due to them being in the MCU. Marvel didn't do anything so offensive that will turn ppeople off. Thor 3 I dislike. Inhumans was TV so it didn't affect the MCU or people good will towards Marvel. Marvel Studios has (for now) Kevin Feigne, which seems to love the universe Marvel is creating on screen. I hope MarvelStudios doesn't have their own Kathleen Kennedy... as in NEVER EVER.
The only fatigue I'm suffering from is beloved films, games and media full of political agenda.
This article was interesting and spells out a potential beginning of an end.
...Solo trailer was shrouded in lifeless slick imagery (Lando looks like a pump from a 70’s flick, another dude in a Chewy suit, and a non Harrison Solo...No thanks). I believe it will make some respectable cash but since it was made and paid for twice it will be as close to financial failure as a big studio can get.
Disney knows ‘Solo’ was a mistake but their pride wouldn’t allow them to pull the project IMO.
Star Wars burn-out is real people!
Excellent take. I always thought Star Wars was overrated, but after seeing the reaction to TLJ, I probably didn't realize the enduring qualities from the original trilogy. In other words, "you don't know what you've got til it's gone."
I'll defend one thing, and that's Rouge One. Not the film, but its take. As it was a spin ff and not a main film, the company never expected it to be s big as The Force Awakens.
I recall a time when Anakin Skywalker's Lightsaber was released for the Attack of the Clones line to retailers, and they were all but sold out the first day. Now Rey lightsabers are just collecting dust on toy pegs.
I didn't even watch the Solo trailer. To me it doesn't even exist
Wcb what are you talking about? Emilia Clarke will be the strong female who taught Han his ways.. mark my words. I think the trailer even showed his signature blaster and holster on HER hip
Even my 17 years old daughter HATES this new "Star Wars"... but the bright side in my case is she was introduced to the Feminist BS the right way: now she's aware.
The description of this video actually made me laugh out loud.
The Last Jedi did SERIOUS DAMAGE to the Star Wars franchise and legacy ! BAD MOVIE
Regarding the "Solo" teaser, as soon as I saw the Lucasfilm logo appear during the Super Bowl, I thought "I've got a bad feeling about this..." and when the teaser was over, I said: "Seriously..???" Nothing about it looks remotely interesting to me, and frankly I don't care anymore. Star Wars is dead to me.
The Unpopular Opinion it is dead. Only a hollow empty shell remains.
Ewww wall street journal? What is that some kind of main stream source??? 🤢
LIST OF MARKETING FAILS
1- Better than Empire Strikes Back ( hahaha, oh wait, are you serious? )
2- Rotten Tomatoes tomatometer starting at 94% ? ( wow, just wow )
3- Subvert your expecations = a good movie ( humkay... no. Have you heard of branding? )
4- Attack on the fan base. Negative response = haters. If you dont like the movie = racist and sexist ( are you nuts? )
5- Denial and double down of the Mary Sue criticism ( no humility, fail to instruct your actors on the interviews)
6- Drop in China and wallstreet
7- Making Mark Hamill participate and apologize in interviews of a movie he did not like ( this could have been avoided ).
8- Market a fairy tale movie for an audience who was a expecting an epic legendary style of story telling. (Pick your audience, you cannot ride two horses at the same time)
9- Not stoping Rian Johson from making "sassy" remarks on twitter.
10- "Let the past die" much more directed at the audience rather than the character of Rey. What past? she doesn´t know her past in order for her to let it go. Leting go of something is very different than letting something die. The past is very important and has it´s place... in the past. No closure for Rey and a slap on the fans´ faces.
Pretty sure the sheep will flock back to Solo. And then to Episode 9. And the next one...
Schuky9 Well, it took 3 movies, but it didn't work for DC. Disney should take a page from it, but... DC mus be happy. The atrocity called TLJ and Solo took the eyes from the failed DCEU. 😂😂😂😂😂
My 17 year old daughter prefers The latest Resident Evil film over the newer Star Wars films
the problem with the new movies is that they felt like fan fics... bad fan fics... with self insert characters in abundance. directionless plot in the last jedi. boring plot on the force awakens. tone shifts out of nowhere.
I have a solution for starwars
Less Politics = Better Story
Better Story = Better reviews
Better reviews = More money
Everyone knows this isn't going to happen.