Awesome! Excellent! Thanks! I have no other words to describe how grateful I am! This answers my question in full! Please continue with the hashtag, that's a great idea! And continue working on the channel, I love what you are doing!
@@Sadix99 That's right, I never understood why people get so obsessed about amps since the cabinet makes for about 70% of the sound. You see so many different videos comparing amps and pedals and far less about cabs.
Eh, they benefit from a Tubescreamer being on for sure. I remember I used mine for rhythms on a track, and forgotten I'd turned my TS9 off, and when I listened back, I was like "There's something underwhelming about this..." It was lacking that bite that OD pedals give. Had to re-do the tracks.
@@Nick-rf5we that wasn't actually what I meant to say with my comment, but I'll tell you this: Marten Hagström said he tracked Immutable using the preamp or a 100w EVH III into a mesa roadster power amp driving EVH cabs. So I wasn't too far off with my statement.
Nice comparison. I own a 5150 IIIS and a Tube Screamer in front of the third channel isn’t really necessary even with the gain below 12 o‘clock. The third channel has more than enough gain stages and diode clipping. For the Badlander it makes sense to get rid of some of the bassy flubbyness. The second channel of the Stealth is really what distinguishes it from the basic 5150 III, since it’s first gain stage is the first triode of the third channel with a different coupling cap and voltage dividers following.
The Badlander is just such a classic sound. It may come and go in and out of fashion from time to time, but it will be around forever. As great as the EVH sounds, I'm not sure you could say the same.
The Badlander is currently a more vintage sound vs the 5150 that is more modern. I get what you're saying. However, the 5150 will be around to stay maybe even more than the Badlander.
I actually prefer the Mesa Boogie, however slightly. They're both dope, but the palm-muted chugs sound better on the Badlander. The 5150 just sounds a little brittle to me when chugging. I'd like to try panning one of each to each side - they probably sound great together.
Through headphones listening to the video; it seemed the MESA had a bit more growl, mid seemed beefier. But I am sure anyone would be thrilled with either. 😊
EVH 5150 III 100w el34 & 100w stealth have a secret function. Blue gain pot effects a gain structure of red channel. Try change blue gain while you are in red channel. When pot is higher it cuts the bass and gain is stronger. When pot is lower bass are boosted and gain reduced. For almost same gain structure as 50w version or original 100w you must set blue channel gain pot on 3,5.
Literally have been researching this for the past week. Talk about a big coincidence! But I'm set on buying the Badlander. To me it seems it has a better low end sound. The EVH sounds a little thin. Thank you for this though! Love the new playlist idea!
Tremonti does use pairs of amp. Last time i saw a stage it was a Dual Rectifier and a Diezel. Parkway Drive does use the 5150 for their base sound. But they highly modify the amp befor they capture it with the Kemper, and sadly they don't tell people what they do by now.
Great new series! Love it! Got an 5150III 50W Version and for rythms i use the blue channel. Just increase the gain until it becomes chunky (in my case around 11 o clock) and then Kick a TS9 with Drive at 0 and volume fully open in front of it. Adjust the TS9 tone knob up to your taste and Enjoy! :D would love to hear this settings in comparison to the badlander. Stay Heavy my Friends 🤘
Definitely two different amps but I would take the EVH every time 🤘🏼 Thr Badlander needs pedals, the EVH doesn’t need anything, like Ola said.. it’s a complete package.
This is an excellent way to kick off the new series! Hope we'll see more gear comparisons in the future... lots of gear reviews out there but not as many videos putting similar products head to head to decide the absolute best :). Loved it, can't wait for more!
Cool Video, Thanks Ola excellent playing, I have both amps but Mesa Badlander through Mesa Cabinets V 30's and the EVH 5150 IIIS through the EVH Cabs & Greenbacks, there's the difference and how I think they sound the best and different.
Badlander with the TS was my favorite tonally in this instance. The 5150 would be my preference if I was using a 7 string or any tuning A and below I'd probably go that route.
i sold my EVH 50w stealth to get a badlander 50W...the EVH had kind of a "sterile" sound to my ears...plenty of gain but just wasn't my thing after a while...i pair the badlander with my mesa mark IV in a stereo rig with a little pepers dirty tree mixed in (TC mode) and i'm all set!!!
I've never liked dual or triple rec's. Owned each twice. Other than the old tremoverb dual that's much tighter and more Master of Puppets-ish. (Never owned only played) The badlander seems to have nailed what i had always hoped the rectifier metal tone would be
IMO the Mesa has plenty of natural low end that really wouldn't benefit from a resonance control, so I don't consider that a negative. The EVH benefits from it because it's a little thinner by design. With a boost, it's the opposite... the Mesa benefits more from a boost and the EVH has so much gain on tap that it doesn't need any help other than maybe to tighten it up a bit. Both are crushing but I lean towards the Mesa (own both as well as other Mesas and EVH's).
One thing that jumps out at me right way as a gigging musician is the size difference. I love the compact size of the Badlander. Much easier to carry around, and it'll fit on a 24" wide 2x12 cab. I have the 50 watt version. Kinda wish I had paid a little extra for the 100 watter since they're the same size. Both these amps sound killer though. Thanks Ola!
Great Respongse 🤘the Mesa Badlander 25 lunchbox is on my buy list… I have the EVH 5150III stealth LBX and love it ❤️ awesome video Ola 🤘🔥🤘 I think both amps sound awesome in their own ways 🤘🔥🤘
the thing about the mesa was the mids grunt and i recon it would sit better in the mix, with something to tighten the bottom end. i'm of the opinion that it's easier to take something out of a sound than to add something thats not naturally there. to me the evh was scooped and tight but lacked personality.
Having an EVH5150III 50 Stealth and a Mesa Dual Rectifier, I can't choose between those guys ! They are extremely complementary for all type of Metal stuff, even if the Mesa is more versatile. But the precision and the brutality of the EVH fits perfectly with the darker and wilder side of the Mesa... Last but not least, as Ola said, the EVH is much easier to dial with to get a very good sound while the Mesa requires a little work...
I'd prefer the Mesa even if I was into drop tuned metal. To me it just sounds better. Maybe I'm not a big fan of the "modern" metal voicing so much. Yeah, I'm sure of it.
Ola ! Would like to see how you record. The process ( short version). Going from either tube amp or plug-in's. Also what new interfaces do you think are good for less than $1000. Avid, Universal Audio, Apogee and etc. Maybe a 2023 in-depth studio desk review?? Thanks again for the great content !!
I'd love to hear the difference between the Engl Savage Mark II and Mesa Badlander. So that's my suggestion for the next vid of this kind. Greetings Ola!
Badlander for me. For some reason the EVH lacks definition, when Ola is doing fast changes it just seems to get lost, whereas the badlander I can hear everything very clearly. Maybe it’s just the way Ola has it dialed in on the EVH. I’d still rather have the badlander though.
Both amps are completely viable, you'd do well to have both in your studio, but coming from someone who doesn't have any amps yet, I'd probably buy an amp from the 5150 line, just because of the sheer versatility in them. That and at least 70% of my favorite tones were made with some variation of that amp.
Hey Ola, love the series. Does removing tone pot/pots from the circuit make the pickups hotter, and if so is the difference really that audible. Wish you all the best in 2023, and maybe 1 mill, who knows...
I’m not Ola, sorry, but yes. Removing the pots does increase the output a little, you’ll also get more high end. You can install a blower switch on a push pull or toggle switch to bypass everything and just go straight to the output jack.
I prefer the mesa, which is interesting because the last mesa I played, I didnt like it, it wasnt very clear, kind of muddy, and I didnt have time to dial it in for something I liked, so I kind of wrote it off. It was a mark 5.
really dig the spring noises on the OD 5150 at 2:46 also MkV or MkIIC+ for the authentic MoP tone? I found sometimes MkV does the job better than MkIIC+, despite sharing the same dials and even same mics
Both sound amazing. The Mesa, for these settings anyway, has a darker metal tone and the EVH has a little more brightness to it. I'm sure the EVH can be EQ'd to get that darker tone but I think overall you have more diversity with the EVH. I bought an Iconic and could not believe what a wide range of tones it has. My Marshall JCM 900 and my modded Blue Voodoo are nowhere near the Iconic for range. Good job Ola!
hello Ola!! I really enjoy your videos. if you have some time to spare i would like to learn your opinion about engl ironball se peavy 6505 or invective and prs mt15. Which one would you prefer for metal
What is your "go to" tube for the power section? I have a Diezel VH4 and Diezel VHZ with KT-77's but everyone tells me these amps totally come to life when modded with either 6L6's or 6550's. Cheers Ola!
Mesa had that guttural grunt. Brutal.
EVH has the glassy modern attack. Another flavor of brutal.
Guttural is definitively the right keyword here. Reminds me of the Savage 120 in the character.
Perfect description!🤘
Together they would be amazing
is it me or the badlander sounds like a boosted krank revolution?
Exactly
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Awesome! Excellent! Thanks! I have no other words to describe how grateful I am! This answers my question in full! Please continue with the hashtag, that's a great idea! And continue working on the channel, I love what you are doing!
Love this new series. Having the opportunity to have a dedicated video from a professional? This is just another level of greatness.
Not a massive tone shift between them and once the TS-808 was engaged I'd be lying by saying I could distinguish who's who. Great video series!
that's because 2 amps on one same will sound very similar... want a massive change ? same amp, different cabinet (speaker).
@@Sadix99 That's right, I never understood why people get so obsessed about amps since the cabinet makes for about 70% of the sound. You see so many different videos comparing amps and pedals and far less about cabs.
Yeah just get a Harley Benton cab loaded with DV77’s and a decent amp and you are slaying!!😁
That Mesa was crushing! Really thick sounding. For the same price, I'd go Badlander every day between those two.
Same here!
@vagabondlars Yeah that Badlander is nasty!🤘
esp with the evh now using even thinner and thinner pcb's.
@@0megalul309 Since when?
The Badlander is the one I would want just sounds more like what I would want
That EVH is basically "instant meshuggah" I love it! Badlander sounds thick and perfect for boosting, while the IIIs doesn't need one IMO.
Eh, they benefit from a Tubescreamer being on for sure. I remember I used mine for rhythms on a track, and forgotten I'd turned my TS9 off, and when I listened back, I was like "There's something underwhelming about this..." It was lacking that bite that OD pedals give. Had to re-do the tracks.
@@Nick-rf5we that wasn't actually what I meant to say with my comment, but I'll tell you this: Marten Hagström said he tracked Immutable using the preamp or a 100w EVH III into a mesa roadster power amp driving EVH cabs. So I wasn't too far off with my statement.
Nice comparison. I own a 5150 IIIS and a Tube Screamer in front of the third channel isn’t really necessary even with the gain below 12 o‘clock. The third channel has more than enough gain stages and diode clipping. For the Badlander it makes sense to get rid of some of the bassy flubbyness. The second channel of the Stealth is really what distinguishes it from the basic 5150 III, since it’s first gain stage is the first triode of the third channel with a different coupling cap and voltage dividers following.
The Badlander is just such a classic sound. It may come and go in and out of fashion from time to time, but it will be around forever. As great as the EVH sounds, I'm not sure you could say the same.
Yes. Yes we could say the same.
Considering how long the 5150 has been around…you can definitely say the same.
Sorry I don't get this comment... The 5150 and its variations have been widely popular for a loooong time. So yes, you could say the same very easily
The Badlander is currently a more vintage sound vs the 5150 that is more modern. I get what you're saying. However, the 5150 will be around to stay maybe even more than the Badlander.
@@Aggrovious Agreed
I actually prefer the Mesa Boogie, however slightly. They're both dope, but the palm-muted chugs sound better on the Badlander. The 5150 just sounds a little brittle to me when chugging.
I'd like to try panning one of each to each side - they probably sound great together.
Through headphones listening to the video; it seemed the MESA had a bit more growl, mid seemed beefier. But I am sure anyone would be thrilled with either. 😊
Exactly, to me the Badlander had more grittiness/rawness which I preferred over the EVH
@@gordon5064 evh Sound so much better for me over Bandlander
EVH 5150 III 100w el34 & 100w stealth have a secret function. Blue gain pot effects a gain structure of red channel. Try change blue gain while you are in red channel. When pot is higher it cuts the bass and gain is stronger. When pot is lower bass are boosted and gain reduced. For almost same gain structure as 50w version or original 100w you must set blue channel gain pot on 3,5.
A definite unheard of little secret with these for sure, he’ll even I forgot about it almost!
Literally have been researching this for the past week. Talk about a big coincidence! But I'm set on buying the Badlander. To me it seems it has a better low end sound. The EVH sounds a little thin. Thank you for this though! Love the new playlist idea!
Mesa Badlander was 🔥🔥🔥 found the high end had more bite and the overall notes more attack.
My ears like the MESA here, good demo Ola!
I'd like to hear both simultaneously on a track, that'd be a SERIOUSLY thick sound
I use a Badlander in a stereo setup with a Victory Super Kraken and it's thick as hell.
Tremonti does use pairs of amp. Last time i saw a stage it was a Dual Rectifier and a Diezel.
Parkway Drive does use the 5150 for their base sound. But they highly modify the amp befor they capture it with the Kemper, and sadly they don't tell people what they do by now.
Respong!
I always love that Rectifier sound. But the attack on that EVH really hits hard for the modern feel.
my God... both of them are gold
The new series is of to a good start! great video
Great new series! Love it!
Got an 5150III 50W Version and for rythms i use the blue channel. Just increase the gain until it becomes chunky (in my case around 11 o clock) and then Kick a TS9 with Drive at 0 and volume fully open in front of it. Adjust the TS9 tone knob up to your taste and Enjoy! :D would love to hear this settings in comparison to the badlander. Stay Heavy my Friends 🤘
I have a Badlander 100 and it’s super percussive. I love it. And it takes boost very well.
Definitely two different amps but I would take the EVH every time 🤘🏼 Thr Badlander needs pedals, the EVH doesn’t need anything, like Ola said.. it’s a complete package.
This is an excellent way to kick off the new series! Hope we'll see more gear comparisons in the future... lots of gear reviews out there but not as many videos putting similar products head to head to decide the absolute best :). Loved it, can't wait for more!
Yes to both of them. Killer riffs Ola!!
Love the classic amp/gear reviews. The good stuff not just the new stuff 😊
Cool Video, Thanks Ola excellent playing, I have both amps but Mesa Badlander through Mesa Cabinets V 30's and the EVH 5150 IIIS through the EVH Cabs & Greenbacks, there's the difference and how I think they sound the best and different.
Seriously that badlander my new favorite amp
This is like FAQ on steroids, really like it!
Badlander with the TS was my favorite tonally in this instance. The 5150 would be my preference if I was using a 7 string or any tuning A and below I'd probably go that route.
i sold my EVH 50w stealth to get a badlander 50W...the EVH had kind of a "sterile" sound to my ears...plenty of gain but just wasn't my thing after a while...i pair the badlander with my mesa mark IV in a stereo rig with a little pepers dirty tree mixed in (TC mode) and i'm all set!!!
I've never liked dual or triple rec's. Owned each twice. Other than the old tremoverb dual that's much tighter and more Master of Puppets-ish. (Never owned only played)
The badlander seems to have nailed what i had always hoped the rectifier metal tone would be
IMO the Mesa has plenty of natural low end that really wouldn't benefit from a resonance control, so I don't consider that a negative. The EVH benefits from it because it's a little thinner by design. With a boost, it's the opposite... the Mesa benefits more from a boost and the EVH has so much gain on tap that it doesn't need any help other than maybe to tighten it up a bit. Both are crushing but I lean towards the Mesa (own both as well as other Mesas and EVH's).
One thing that jumps out at me right way as a gigging musician is the size difference. I love the compact size of the Badlander. Much easier to carry around, and it'll fit on a 24" wide 2x12 cab. I have the 50 watt version. Kinda wish I had paid a little extra for the 100 watter since they're the same size. Both these amps sound killer though. Thanks Ola!
Thank you Ola for all that you do man!! Also keep kickin A$S. Gethchapull 333🤘🏻🎸🍻
That Mesa can be inserted into modern music, np. Much more open with a wider dynamic / tonal range and without that narrow *squawk* of the 5150.
Great Respongse 🤘the Mesa Badlander 25 lunchbox is on my buy list… I have the EVH 5150III stealth LBX and love it ❤️ awesome video Ola 🤘🔥🤘
I think both amps sound awesome in their own ways 🤘🔥🤘
Both sound good but I like the mesa,just a bit brighter to my ears.
one in right channel, other in left channel. Amazing combination for recording
Cool new series! Both sounded great. I could see/hear both together in a band setting.
Yeah, interesting, I'm also drawn more to the Badlander sound here...
This is a really cool series,I'm Loving it!!!lol damn,now I want a big Mac.😜🤘
Great new series!!! Need more!!!
Both are awesome, but I really like the responsiveness of the Mesa Badlander.
the thing about the mesa was the mids grunt and i recon it would sit better in the mix, with something to tighten the bottom end. i'm of the opinion that it's easier to take something out of a sound than to add something thats not naturally there. to me the evh was scooped and tight but lacked personality.
Yes it chugs 🤘
Please Respong! Best heavy tone. Hesu Demon vs Eminence DV-77.
I prefer the rawness of the mesa it would also cut through a band mix well
The blue channel on the 5150 might have been a better comparison against the badlander.
In my band I play a Mesa (rhythm). Lead plays a 6505. Sound good together
I'm a huge 5150 fan.. But for some reason I'm digging that Mesa more between the two!!!!
It's what happens when fender buys a company they ruin it and it sounds like dog shit.
@@TheThingThatShouldNotBe I own an original 5150.. amazing amp.. idk why but that new Mesa sounds fukn crushing!!!! I think im gonna go try one out..
Original as in the peavey?
@@TheThingThatShouldNotBe yes sir!!!! The OG.. I believe it's from 95..
Now that brings me back!!!! Take my upvote
Having an EVH5150III 50 Stealth and a Mesa Dual Rectifier, I can't choose between those guys ! They are extremely complementary for all type of Metal stuff, even if the Mesa is more versatile. But the precision and the brutality of the EVH fits perfectly with the darker and wilder side of the Mesa... Last but not least, as Ola said, the EVH is much easier to dial with to get a very good sound while the Mesa requires a little work...
Either one will do the job.
I'd prefer the Mesa even if I was into drop tuned metal. To me it just sounds better. Maybe I'm not a big fan of the "modern" metal voicing so much. Yeah, I'm sure of it.
Ola ! Would like to see how you record. The process ( short version). Going from either tube amp or plug-in's.
Also what new interfaces do you think are good for less than $1000. Avid, Universal Audio, Apogee and etc. Maybe a 2023 in-depth studio desk review??
Thanks again for the great content !!
Great series concept!
I'd love to hear the difference between the Engl Savage Mark II and Mesa Badlander. So that's my suggestion for the next vid of this kind. Greetings Ola!
I prefer the sound of the mesa badlander, probably because I dont listen to a lot of modern metal though
Oh My Googily moogily,That BadLander was Gorgeous!!!🤘😜👍
Between these two and the way they were dialed in this video, I actually prefer the Mesa
I've been on an early 2000s kick lately and the Badlander would do perfectly.
luv the rec! seems tighter.🤘🤘🤘
I prefer that badlands, that thing is sick!
This is a badass comparison 👏
Never really liked Mesa but in this case i would surely chose the Mesa as it sounds more mean to my ear.
Badlander for me. For some reason the EVH lacks definition, when Ola is doing fast changes it just seems to get lost, whereas the badlander I can hear everything very clearly. Maybe it’s just the way Ola has it dialed in on the EVH. I’d still rather have the badlander though.
I gotta say, I actually dig the badlander. Something just guttural about the way it sounds and I want it
Both amps are completely viable, you'd do well to have both in your studio, but coming from someone who doesn't have any amps yet, I'd probably buy an amp from the 5150 line, just because of the sheer versatility in them. That and at least 70% of my favorite tones were made with some variation of that amp.
I dig my 5150, great for gigs, it’s as heavy as a small car, thankfully for caster wheels. But an excellent amp.
I prefer the Badlander... more note and tone, the 5150 III has too much pick/string attack for my liking.
Hey Ola, love the series. Does removing tone pot/pots from the circuit make the pickups hotter, and if so is the difference really that audible. Wish you all the best in 2023, and maybe 1 mill, who knows...
I’m not Ola, sorry, but yes. Removing the pots does increase the output a little, you’ll also get more high end. You can install a blower switch on a push pull or toggle switch to bypass everything and just go straight to the output jack.
I liked the Badlander, without the TS, a lot. Not so much the EVH. However, I liked the EVH with the TS a lot better than the Badlander with the TS.
I really like the MESA tone. non boosted.
I like the way that the Mesa sounds in this video but usually I prefer the 5150. Usually the 5150 sounds tighter I think.
I love these type of videos
Honestly, I’m really surprised the EVH doesn’t sound more aggressive. The MESA all day.
I had the EVH IIIS and sold it to get the Badlander 100w, it has a more gut wrenching punch. No regrets!
Oh man, that Badlander is brutal, holy! I want one bad.
Both of them sound great and have their place. If I could only have one I'd take the EVH.
Really like this Support-type content, hopefully you'll have the Kemper back at some point :)
Badlander sounds more crushing..Thicker sounding
Badlander sounds like the world is ending neatly. 5150 sounds like the world is ending up in chaos.
I prefer the mesa, which is interesting because the last mesa I played, I didnt like it, it wasnt very clear, kind of muddy, and I didnt have time to dial it in for something I liked, so I kind of wrote it off. It was a mark 5.
Badlander instantaneously sounds like Nevermore's DHIADW. Hence it is objectively better.
Both great. I'd have to go with the Badlander.
really dig the spring noises on the OD 5150 at 2:46
also MkV or MkIIC+ for the authentic MoP tone? I found sometimes MkV does the job better than MkIIC+, despite sharing the same dials and even same mics
Mesa has more pick attack separation of notes
Hej Ola! Could you show us the proper way to capture a speaker IR. Always been curious what the process is like. Love this new format btw🤘🔥.
Great vid. Hard to decide on new amps sometimes lol
Both sound amazing. The Mesa, for these settings anyway, has a darker metal tone and the EVH has a little more brightness to it. I'm sure the EVH can be
EQ'd to get that darker tone but I think overall you have more diversity with the EVH. I bought an Iconic and could not believe what a wide range of tones
it has. My Marshall JCM 900 and my modded Blue Voodoo are nowhere near the Iconic for range. Good job Ola!
sick!!! missing that rectifier sound
Mesa for me (if I could afford it) EVH sounds much thinner and compressed to my ear
The EVH just because I think it sounds just way angrier and nastier. The badlander still sounds dope though and would still be stoked to have one.
Hi Ola, great video idea. Its an FAQ with „life“.
hello Ola!! I really enjoy your videos. if you have some time to spare i would like to learn your opinion about engl ironball se peavy 6505 or invective and prs mt15. Which one would you prefer for metal
Hi Ola, great video as always! Could you please let me know which amp switcher you were using? Thanks!
Ok that's what we need next time: Guttural amps, Badlander vs Savage 120
Everywhere is on about the new katana artist mk2 . Can you do one of these shootouts with one please 🤘🏻
The Testament-riffs sounded best on the Mesa (to my ears). But that's possibly a given :D
What is your "go to" tube for the power section? I have a Diezel VH4 and Diezel VHZ with KT-77's but everyone tells me these amps totally come to life when modded with either 6L6's or 6550's. Cheers Ola!
Hi Ola! I'd like to know how you make your awesome musical intros. Which vst's are you using and how do you mix them? Please Respong!