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- David Silverman, author of "This Land Is Their Land," joins ABC News Live to discuss the history of American Indian tribal politics and the reality of Pilgrim-Indian alliances.
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We literally hear about colonialism every day. Where were the myths? I've never in my life heard that the Indians wanted Pilgrims to take their land.
Most Americans don't know much about USA history. And if they do, it is very minimal.
We do hear a lot about : Black, White, Hispanic, Jews, Muslims, Asian, ect... But not too much about Native / Indigenous / First People / who were here on this land before the Europeans people entered this land.
yeah and wtf has they done for this country? the native arrived here 16k years ago. there were here for over 15k years before the european came. and the land is still like a jungle and primal living. the whites and the n word build this country from the ground up. and if the native got killed, well wtf have they been doing for 15k years with absolutely no defense of their land. its natural selection they got wiped out by the more powerful and advanced civilization.
As a Pakistani happy Thanksgiving day from Pakistan
Happy thanksgiving from PA USA
Racist much?
Happy thanksgiving to all from 🇮🇪 🏴
I am from south Asia too and shame on you for supporting white supremacist festival which are have origins in colonialism maybe you are a typical Christian Pakistani whose forefathers are said to have become Christians from low caste Hindu just for 'one bag of rice' from the British government of colonial India that is why even Mahatma Gandhi was forced to call your forefathers "Ricebag converts" because they sold their values and dignity for one rice bag same with their offsprings like you. You have been always like this licking boots of white supremacist and serving them in their agendas. As a muslim I say ban all white supremacist festival like Thanksgiving and deport all Trumph supporters facists back to Europe as they cry alot about non white immigrants coming into American but have no problem with history of genocide and colonization of America by white supremacists ..
Shame on you slaves I would have been better you died before uttering this oath of slavery.. mentally enslaved losers copy everything you are taught by western colonisers and white supremacist no wonder they say they have "educated and civilized" you the truth is they have infact shaped the thinking and behaviour of slaves like you. damn you
The news anchor still had the nerve to tell Mr. Silverman happy thanksgiving wow
I'm pretty sure they'll be banning Native American history discussions in Florida soon. 🙄
#DontSayIndigenous 🤫
Yep...Florida 🤮
And Texas. Over here folks trying to ban books from the PUBLIC library. Because they don’t know how to parent. You won’t be allowed to say slave, native, mass murder, genocide, or indigenous before much longer in this fd up state. But hey, I can take my frustration out by shooting my gun up into the sky in public, without reprimand because I’m pale
@@Scraggledust sounds about yt 😄
Florida sucks and that says a lot coming from a British person.
Texas too.
Well said, you can celebrate without all the lies and whitewashing.👍🏽🙌🏾
No you can’t. Not with dignity
@@Scrollupone Don't worry about me. I'm going to be stuffing my face in about 30 minutes and dignity will be the last thing on my mind when I get it all over my shirt. LOL! There will be zero discussions about genocide, pilgrims, and colonialism.
I can't celebrate pequot day aka Thanksgiving, there is no difference between a Republican and the Democrat tell individual you're not going to Thanksgiving dinner huge fight.. would you celebrate the Holocaust think about it. When the Europeans commit atrocities they put lipstick on a pig,
@@Packer1290 so being a selfish piece of iish makes you feel good?? We’ll do what works for you bud 😂
Ir you can and not lie and twist the history of the first Thankgiving as a start of genocide which was not ture. It did turn out peaceful.
Pov:you accidentally clicked on the news, and ty for the info
If you celebrate this holiday…. You are wrong. Period
You can't call most people in America wrong, it's just silly and arbitrary to think such ridiculousness. Don't celebrate, and don't tell me what to do
@@classyviper1one i absolutely can. Cause for starters what grown person with any type of intelligence participates in something they know nothing about? I’ll wait? It’s ignorance. Once you learn the history.. there is absolutely no excuse to continue celebrating. So like I said… if you celebrate this holiday.. YOU ARE WRONG.
If your passing down traditions to your children without knowing the origin of said tradition… YOU ARE WRONG
@@Scrollupone Get over yourself.
@@randyrobinson9113 no.. it’s just food. Get over YOURSELF. 🤦🏿
Native Americans are victims, thanksgiving belongs to USA
Can I speak on this subject being the original man AKA black man.. I don't celebrate pequot massacre.. not seeking a validation or coalition, because it's weird to me most of the tribes that received reparations look like Sally Field but if you are dark (black) you get nothing, but with that said I'm not going to celebrate slavery Holocaust or Thanksgiving..
Now I can speak on this subject really well, because unfortunately, you might not know this, but nobody cares about your opinion or what holidays you choose not to celebrate. Have a good day
@@classyviper1one thank you
Thanksgiving was not on the Perqpute massacure dummy. That was 1637 not 1621 a big timeline gap.
@@brittanyhayes1043 white Nazi what did the governor Winthrop celebrate, the slaying rape, murder, hatemongers, slaughter of 700 men,woman, children of the pequot ppl.what is next your founding forefathers were good men
If you're going to have the conversation have the conversation. You said the natives helped them a little.
When Europeans made it over the ocean over half had died from scurvy and the rest were barely alive.
Sometimes natives had to board those ships to rescue those men, who only came back for genocide.
The massacres of natives in the United States by Americans might not seem that historic, but they
were northern natives, not the empires of Central and South America, showing gold right away.
The Inca went from over 25 million to under 4 million in five years after Jesuits spread diseases.
The first native genocide in North America happened in Florida. When Americans saw that natives
could not be subdued, despite cutting tendons in their knees and ankles, and would die to escape,
that's when they decided to use their new, ocean-going boats to bring over people from Africa.
I won't desecrate the name of that tribe with this technology.
I am baffled at how people don’t know this. Maybe growing up in a small town in the 90’s, with a diverse population is why we were taught about the tragedies of the Indigenous peoples of the Americas. I can’t recall not knowing that over 96% of ALL the native peoples of ALL the Americas, were exterminated by Europeans. What the *f* ARE they teaching nowadays???
@@Scraggledust If you were as old as I am, watching American television and newspapers from the late 1960s, you would see how strong the disinformation was about pale-skins and natives. I began to work with Mohawk in the 1970s, and they taught me what life, and the Great Spirit was, before they were invaded. There were no diseases for humans in North America, until Jesuit priests brought blankets with Dark Ages diseases for that genocide. There were no wars of blood between natives, and other people, until the tide of war was forced upon them.
Wow…interesting.
@@Shi2232 It might be interesting for you, a good thing, but it only gets worse for me and it hasn't stopped. I live my life, that's for sure, but living could be better for everybody. And please, think about this when you hear "Amazing Grace" on bagpipes. No Scottish person could have wrote that song. It took an English slave trader who, unexpectedly, saw the light of our Savior. He still gets around. Do you know all the inventions that came out of Scotland, including electricity, practical steam power, horsepower and wires? I can tell you, if you asked anyone who came up with a concept about earth or an invention that changed mankind, they will tell you a glowing human-like being appeared to them in the dark when they were in bed, sometimes with a stand and sheet to draw on, sometimes coming back a few times to explain until understood. The gods of India are like that. The artwork makes their skin look blue, but that's symbolic for the blue glow they had. If our eyes are the windows to our soul, why, in the entire New Testament, doesn't it tell you what happened when you looked into the eyes of Jesus of Nazareth? I better stop typing.
Africans was already living in America before any slave ships came to America
Hand off their land? The entire Continent was theirs?
Now it's ours, and has been for many generations. The more you know
Natives were conquered, raped and butchered by US and European colonists
I don't believe they celebrated Thanksgiving on Nov 24th, to late in the year
They had cardigans back then..
Thank you for this story. For Native Americans this is the beginning of our genocide. My mother is Mayflower family and my father Native American!
Sure.....what did the comanche captive say to the Nazi doctor captive?.......u lucky bastard
Not quite. That started a century before by the Spanish and Portuguese invasion of S. America.
I'm so full from Thanksgiving dinner, that I don't care about where the holiday comes from. I'm thankful for many things, I don't care about the origin story
Genocide didn't start with Thanksgiving. You are ignorant of your knowledge of genocide here. And disease is not genocide.
@@yvonneplant9434 South America isn't N. America or Canada, get your history and geography right.
The past is the past and we can't do anything about it, but we can learn from the mistakes, what matters is now, who we are and how we show and give gratitude to God for the food HE has given us
There is a reason African American history being told is light years ahead of Native American history being told. Because American history can’t be told without African American history being told. What many do not know is many Natives or Indigenous were “black”
Take a good look at the seminoles of the Floridian lands.
Light years in a unit of distance
The Seminoles came from the Creek whom went south to Fl and escaped slaves they didn't exist until the 1800s The Seminole wars were fought over slavery
FAIRY TAIL HISTORY...
NO, I don’t feel ashamed.
Seriously, some holidays are sugarcoated or based on mere superstitions. And I wonder why we still celebrate them without doing some research
Silverman is asked specifically about Thanksgiving and he gives the 20 second colonialism was awful for 200 years. Guy just couldn't wait to get into it.
Because it's the truth, and the message that people should get.
Yup. I guess he likes telling truths, eh?
It must be heard
Thanksgiving sucks! Just another day to me. But to alot of people, it's just a day to stuff your face and go home to ignore your family for the whole year. Yeah no thanks!
thank you for your informative journalism
This is ruff
Yet these same folks have there reporters at parades celebrating same thing these hate
Turn off the TV.
😄😄😄😍😍😍🎉🎉🎊🎊🎊🎊🎉🎉🎉
Stop been like Florida America Grrrrrr 😄
Yay Florida where fake history and Woke goes to die. Greeting from a Floridadian who know history on like you ass.
This is a holiday that should have been banned a long time ago out of respect to those who suffered and are still suffering under illegal European occupation of their continent.
No, just fucking no! We can’t change the past damnit let me eat my food
Do you live in America Mark?
When do they lie ? Anytime there speaking #ifactcheckit 😂
Why don't we teach children the TRUE origins of Christmas and Santa Claus???????
I'm curious... what is the "TRUE" story of Christmas and Santa Claus??
I do Christmas is a "reinvented" pagan holiday
LMAO
Study the accurate Thanksgiving, then enjoy the holiday. God bless our pilgrim ancestors.
Second that and honor them!
As I remember men women and children left the tyranny of the king..this was God's way helping them escape..when they got here disease and starvation only a few survived..indians helped them and the pilgrims helped the Indians..yes some fought for 100s of years.. God had this all planned for humans..and still till this day..we can't look back and play the blame game...just look back and not make the same mistakes..but I do believe our government to involved in other countries more ways than one..I am thankful I live in America..but if we continue down the path of hate it will be destroyed..
Revisionist History.
You will listen to ABC, the academic elite, and the technocratic authoritarians and you will be thankful!!
Not really...did you actually attend history class?
@@kylebourne6839 your comment is millenial magic. Really
He is crosseyed
I will always honor my Pilgrim and Jamstown Ancestors on Thanksgiving whike honoring Gid first. Stop changing accurate history of Thanksgiving to be handed on!
Already know this. We discuss the horrors of first contact every thanksgiving. (Known it since elementary, but I was taught by my Father, who told us the truth about Thanksgiving, to always think for myself and never, ever judge someone off of their skin or any difference) There’s no way 🦃 day was “peace and positivity” based on how colonial interactions have gone since the dawn of humankind. It’s greatly annoying to keep hearing “most White Americans”, the “general public, aka white people”, doesn’t want to know. That’s a lie and propagates a vicious cycle of hate, mistrust, & racism. Thanksgiving is a modern invention of ugly history turned pretty. Of WASP’s trying to make themselves seem better then they are. It is a straight up lie thinking I didn’t tell my child the truth because I was born pale. Why are us everyday, general, non-racist, non-biased, non-prejudiced, non-hateful, non-violent, and whom firmly believe in and WORK FOR pro-truth and equity for all no matter ethnicity, beliefs, cultural differences, religious beliefs, etc.-- folks constantly thrown under the bus because of our skin?? If you want truth, stop saying “general public”. It breeds flippancy and disregard. Generalization is never good. Get to the heart of the matter with local, state, and federal authorities who are responsible. Demand equal and equitable teaching not only in education but at home too. Change starts with individuals making change and spreading truth in their homes to then be carried out to the rest of society. “Be the change. . .”
But do you still celebrate it??
@@Scrollupone hella yeah they do 😂
@@Scrollupone you already know the answer hahsh
@@sacramentofoodforest😂😂😂😂let’s wait on the response b4 we jump on em….
Let me guess, you’re white and hope biden will cancel your student loans.
In the old days, in my great grandfather home, we celebrate Thanksgiving as an expression of gratitude for the Harvest.
My great grandfather was a stewards who took care of the land and the land took care of us.
We were taught to give thanks to Mother Earth for delivering of her rich bounty of foodstuff, so we lack not.
Great grandfather taught us to offered to Mother Earth a plate of food from the Harvest table.
We would make a hole in the ground, placing cooked food therein and covering it up, so the Earth could taste her bounty.
In old days at Harvest time we looked out for those who lived nearby that had less.
There where fields to gleam for those widows, the fatherless, orphans and elderly.
We cooked food upon an open fire for the essence to honor the Great Spirit, Nature and the Giver of all life.
This was our giving thanks for the many blessings we had received.
May Nature's God once again bless us as a people.
THIS is a beautiful and inclusive tradition that I could get behind.
Not the traditional Native way because of the history and Doctrine of Discovery, most choose those ways every day!
So that spouse to be everyday than not on a demonic day
Native Americans also need to confront their history and be honest that they owned black slaves, look at the "1866 Indian Act" our government said they had to give up their slaves and Native Americans said, they didn't because they were a Sovereign Nation so the "1866 Indian Act" made them give up their black slaves
They also massacured other tribes to pre European contact too.
Thanksgiving is whack. Don't you eat everyday 😑
Not like this. I'd weigh 1000lbs.
The actual thanksgiving day took place in 1565, when Florida was part of the spanish empire between the spaniards and the saturiwa tribe to celebrate the victory against the french army.
I descendant of founder of St. Augustine FL Pedro Menendez de Aviles, his mother was from Aviles Spain and Native American and the Spainards were SOB's! Maternal line Mayflower Alden / Mullins line.
Nobody talks about how violent these natives were. They killed too. A lot of natives were wiped out by disease. But they killed a lot of pilgrims too.
Its important to know that its a pagan holiday. Just like the rest of the traditions.
Are these ppl human? Smh.
We know this quit trying to make America seem evil, we have over come more evil then ANY nation and I'm thankful to live in the greatest nation to ever exist.
Of course you feel pity for your nation who killed millions when it's not your people 😂You ppl is inherently wicked. only our God can restore what the devil did
Amen 🙏
POV tu dois faire ton travail sur tel
God knows exactly what happened. 🥀❣️A very wise people🥀 destroyed🥀
@Dakota James The indigenous people did nothing wrong, the real sinners were the Europeans who stole their land and massacred them!
@Dakota James No religion can justify the atrocities that the European colonizers commited.
What does Fake "god" have to do with this???!!🤨🤔🙄
I want to know everything that happened. I do know there was mass murders. Revenge is mine sayeth God Almighty ❣️
Buy his book
African Americans are indigenous.
Can't wait to watch Tucker Carlson's take on this and the new "War on Thanksgiving" his audience can use to feed their imaginary victimhood.
It is you guys with the imaginary victimhood status.
After watching and reading comments, I'm even more confused. All I know is all holidays get taken out of context and gets more and more away from the truth. The worst is Easter does anyone know what Easter is or is it all about the bunny....SMH. Americans I swear (I'm American too of Mexican descent).
Jesus I swear TH-cam is allergic to speaking the truth …
Every flag around the world is covered in a little blood
Why would I eat someone else?
Do you think the pilgrims ask the native American to thank God for the food they provided at the first Thanksgiving.
Pilgrims don't believe in god
Ron DeSantis sure in heck isn't teaching or talking about accurate native American history. Didn't sound like SC justice Alito knew much either when hearing the ICWA case.
I’m part Native American and celebrate thanksgiving. It’s a beautiful time to show thanks to our Creator for all we have, no matter how much or how little. Native Americans are resilient and grateful people. They are not victims that hold grudges against the ancestors of pilgrims. They’ve intermarried and most only wish to preserve the traditions of old they still have. This “colonizer” mentality is held by mostly white people! They should stop perpetuating division!
As a grandfather, father and son of my ancestors who suffered (and those like my nai nai who survived) the slaughter of my people, in Mystic, Conn. I don't "celebrate" Thanksgiving as I was brainwashed to believe was a celebration of "thanks " for the co-existence between two peoples and its significance in the founding a new nation based on freedom. Alternatively, I learned that it was a holiday that celebrated the violent and hateful genocide of the Pequot nation and other indigenous peoples that resisted the Euro-peon colonizers so-called treaties to steal land that was not theirs to begin with. In all reality, the Euro-peon doctrine of "manifest destiny" was based on a twisted understanding of Yah and their so-called Christianity religion...thereby sailing here by the thousands and turning a once fertile paradise into a bloodbath that decimated the First Indigenous Peoples and Tribes of Yah-ho-wa and followed with the enslavement of the original Hebrews of Judah...otherwise known as the Negroes. History is being revealed and the great revival and awakening of the Original Tribes is in effect...if you, who call yourself "part Native American" feel that way, that's your business but I know MANY indigenous people that don't share your opinion.
@@kylebourne6839 elizabeth warren is part Native American.
@@roygbiv1938 Your ignorance is showing, roy boy. I take it you are from nowhere near to what was once Indian Territory, i.e.. Oklahoma. If you were, you would (possibly) not be nearly so glib.
@@clayoreilly4553 It’s disappointing there are so many miserable people in our society. You sound brainwashed by a particular narrative.
@@roygbiv1938 And you, roy boy, are one of the miserables. I am not claiming that Elizabeth Warren is Native American. Just that you are ignorant of the culture of Oklahoma. But, ignorance is bliss. Or so they say.
Thanksgiving was invented by the founders of the NFL so they could have 3 football games on in one day;