I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your videos. You seem to get some negative comments but, as far as I'm concerned, I'd never get to hear any of the amazing sounds of this unique instrument without all your efforts. I'll never get to hear it in person (or play it, for that matter!) and so I 100% support all the work being done and look forward to the day when we get a recording of the organ complete in all its glory. THANK YOU!!!
The 32 and 64 mutations are utterly incredible, what total genius of a design, never heard anything like it in my life!!! I’m playing this through two Rodgers SW 18 subs with twin S-200 amps! Has anyone sampled the boardwalk hall organ yet???! !
I think the Fagotto sounds quite nice, at least in this recording! Not so much like a regal. I guess it would fit nicely in softer combinations. I absolutely love those mutations. And I appreciate hearing all the 32' stops, even though they aren't as exotic as the 64', almost no organs have this wealth of 32' stops!
I never realized how effective and amazing the deep mutation stops are in this one-of-a-kind instrument. I bet it cost a lot of money to include them, and from a tonal perspective, worth every penny! I am still hoping to get out to Atlantic City for a week or so sometime in the next couple of years to volunteer helping with the restoration.
I don't think they should be expensive. A 6 2/5' uses less metal than an 8' principal, and a 4 4/7' uses only a little more than a 4' octave. Even for the 64' harmonics, except for the 21 1/3' which will cost more than a 16' rank, but even the next one at 12 4/5 would cost in between a 16' and an 8' rank, and a 9 1/7' would cost only a little more than an 8' rank, and they get smaller and cheaper if you pick higher harmonics. It's surprising more organs don't have these.
This is a really fun video to watch! I'm fascinated with 32' stops, and it's really cool to hear the different groups of stops. What was even more cool was hearing the huge puff of air in the lower notes of the Bombardon just before the actual note sounds. It gives you a great idea about how much air pressure is going thru to make those pipes speak.. The 32' mixtures were cool but more weird sounding than anything else! haha I guess you'd need to use them as part of the whole registration to appreciate what they do. Thank you for making this one--it really compliments the video tour of the 32's that doesn't have any examples of them playing. :-)
Yes- if you're up there in the Pedal Left when some of those Bombardons and Diaphones on 50" are being played it sounds like a gunshot before the note starts.
Thank you so much! Though I have many organ recordings of large instruments with multiple 32' stops, your recording for the first time helped me appreciate these lower stops by themselves, and the challenges in reproducing them! I knew my main (custom) speakers could easily handle 16' in my large room, but now realize they have useful fundamental output down to about G above low C. Whereas my headphones are useful to C. As commented below, the reed stops are harmonic rich so some useful harmonics to hold onto even though speakers can't quite hack the fundamental pitch all the way down. Really appreciate all your videos.
Interesting i just played this through my 600 watt per channel audio system with two 18 inch subs, my wife said what are you doing? It would be amazing to hear that beast in person
@cnagorka The company I worked for is in Edison New Jersey, we actually went to Atlantic City, I remember seeing the convention building, I thought it was a cool building, I didn't realize that organ was in there. I'm retired now, but if I get a chance, I'd like to see it.
Only problem is, even a great microphone will not pick-up audio signals below 20Hz. Too bad there is not s Hammond clock sitting on top of the console.... ;)
So these different frequency combinations almost create like a sonic moire pattern, that translates to the appearance of lower frequencies? (that's sort of the impression my ears are giving me)
how much of the organ would you say is now working and waiting restoration it seems you guys are making good progress i really fined this organ fascinating 🧐
For long I thought "bombardon" was a synonym of bombarde. Until I saw bombarde and bombardon together in the same organ... So it means there is a difference between both, but what is it? I couldn't find a clear answer yet. Is just the shape different? This 32' bombardon sounds pretty much like the bombarde in the organ I play, almost the same
Basically this organ has two stops made to imitate the Bombarde. They are named differently to differentiate between the two stops. I am sure Bombarde and Bombardon are synonyms.
@@cnagorkaSorry, the Tibia is too quiet. I cannot hear the fundamentals of this stop even in the 16' range. That said, the Double Open Wood 32' probably has the best rumble outside the reeds and diaphones. I would like to hear all the 32's with their 16' versions and the 64', but without the 42 2/3.
@@cnagorka OK I get it, I think I can hear just a tiny deep sound when this stop is played, but I cannot hear the fundamental frequencies of this stop like I can with the other 32' stops. I guess this is normal with flute stops; they are really quiet in the low notes compared to other kinds of stops. But I am sure they can be felt!
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Bits of plaster started coming off my ceiling.
Then it's doing its job!
Thank you for demonstrate the quint,sept, and couppler!
I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your videos. You seem to get some negative comments but, as far as I'm concerned, I'd never get to hear any of the amazing sounds of this unique instrument without all your efforts. I'll never get to hear it in person (or play it, for that matter!) and so I 100% support all the work being done and look forward to the day when we get a recording of the organ complete in all its glory. THANK YOU!!!
Thanks
The 32 and 64 mutations are utterly incredible, what total genius of a design, never heard anything like it in my life!!! I’m playing this through two Rodgers SW 18 subs with twin S-200 amps! Has anyone sampled the boardwalk hall organ yet???! !
Wow! Some of them are just wicked powerful!
I think the Fagotto sounds quite nice, at least in this recording! Not so much like a regal. I guess it would fit nicely in softer combinations. I absolutely love those mutations. And I appreciate hearing all the 32' stops, even though they aren't as exotic as the 64', almost no organs have this wealth of 32' stops!
The Wanamaker instrument is catching up-they have a Contra Trombone in the pipe work (pun intended!), which will be an eighth 32’.
I never realized how effective and amazing the deep mutation stops are in this one-of-a-kind instrument. I bet it cost a lot of money to include them, and from a tonal perspective, worth every penny! I am still hoping to get out to Atlantic City for a week or so sometime in the next couple of years to volunteer helping with the restoration.
I don't think they should be expensive. A 6 2/5' uses less metal than an 8' principal, and a 4 4/7' uses only a little more than a 4' octave. Even for the 64' harmonics, except for the 21 1/3' which will cost more than a 16' rank, but even the next one at 12 4/5 would cost in between a 16' and an 8' rank, and a 9 1/7' would cost only a little more than an 8' rank, and they get smaller and cheaper if you pick higher harmonics. It's surprising more organs don't have these.
You forgot to play them all at once 😂
Love the videos Chris !!! Many thanks!!
This is a really fun video to watch! I'm fascinated with 32' stops, and it's really cool to hear the different groups of stops. What was even more cool was hearing the huge puff of air in the lower notes of the Bombardon just before the actual note sounds. It gives you a great idea about how much air pressure is going thru to make those pipes speak.. The 32' mixtures were cool but more weird sounding than anything else! haha I guess you'd need to use them as part of the whole registration to appreciate what they do. Thank you for making this one--it really compliments the video tour of the 32's that doesn't have any examples of them playing. :-)
Yes- if you're up there in the Pedal Left when some of those Bombardons and Diaphones on 50" are being played it sounds like a gunshot before the note starts.
Thank you so much! Though I have many organ recordings of large instruments with multiple 32' stops, your recording for the first time helped me appreciate these lower stops by themselves, and the challenges in reproducing them! I knew my main (custom) speakers could easily handle 16' in my large room, but now realize they have useful fundamental output down to about G above low C. Whereas my headphones are useful to C. As commented below, the reed stops are harmonic rich so some useful harmonics to hold onto even though speakers can't quite hack the fundamental pitch all the way down. Really appreciate all your videos.
Thanks, I plan a second version of this with a different mic setup on a future visit... I can't believe I forgot the Bombarde in Pedal Left.
Fascinating!!
It is powerful.
WOW!!!!!!!!!!! What a Beast of a machine!!!!! Amazing!!!
One neat thing is that I never even realized before this video is that the 32’ diaphone is independent when the Dulzian was already there.
The Diaphone and Dulzian are separate ranks. It is to be noted that most of the lowest two octaves of the Dulzian have Diaphone pipes.
Too cool!! Thanks!
I believe 16 ft C is C1 and 32' is C0.
what would the 64' be? C-1?
@@connor_flaniganyup
That gave my speakers one heck of a workout! What kind of mic are you using?
The organ mic was an AKG 300-B "Blue line" with interchangeable capsules that they don't make any more. Omni capsule.
I'm listening on headphones right now and wow! That really worked!
@@cnagorka yes, it worked really well.
Interesting i just played this through my 600 watt per channel audio system with two 18 inch subs, my wife said what are you doing? It would be amazing to hear that beast in person
It's really something! Come on up sometime
@cnagorka The company I worked for is in Edison New Jersey, we actually went to Atlantic City, I remember seeing the convention building, I thought it was a cool building, I didn't realize that organ was in there. I'm retired now, but if I get a chance, I'd like to see it.
This is a control room not an instrument 😂
Only problem is, even a great microphone will not pick-up audio signals below 20Hz. Too bad there is not s Hammond clock sitting on top of the console.... ;)
But with headphones or big speakers you hear everything very nicely to 32' C as the harmonics create resultant tones which are picked up well.
So these different frequency combinations almost create like a sonic moire pattern, that translates to the appearance of lower frequencies? (that's sort of the impression my ears are giving me)
That's a great way to put it, you hit the nail on the head.
how much of the organ would you say is now working and waiting restoration it seems you guys are making good progress i really fined this organ fascinating 🧐
A little over half the organ is operating as far as I know. That's way up from 10 years ago when it was barely 1/4.
With the organ to the side of the stage, how is the sound while playing? Are there delays, are some voices/chambers louder than others?
Did you forget the 50' bombarde? also what about the 128' resultant?
The 128' resultant isn't worth the stop tablets it's printed on. I wouldn't be surprised if I forgot one of the others...
@@cnagorka ok but the bombarde?
@@blu4r414 Guess I forgot. I'll get it next time.
I've never heard a reed resultant that sounded convincing.
@@nathandavis3002 oh i meant wind pressure 50inches or 1270mm of wind...its a 32foot stop though
For long I thought "bombardon" was a synonym of bombarde. Until I saw bombarde and bombardon together in the same organ... So it means there is a difference between both, but what is it? I couldn't find a clear answer yet. Is just the shape different? This 32' bombardon sounds pretty much like the bombarde in the organ I play, almost the same
Basically this organ has two stops made to imitate the Bombarde. They are named differently to differentiate between the two stops. I am sure Bombarde and Bombardon are synonyms.
Are the contra tibia and sub principal stopped 16 ? Or are they full length 32s ?
The Tibia is stopped and the Sub Principal is open wood.
All ranks except for the Tibia Clausa (which is a stopped 16' rank) are full length open 32' pipes.
Can't even hear the 32' (or rather stopped 16') Tibia!
It's there, just need to use headphones
@@cnagorkaSorry, the Tibia is too quiet. I cannot hear the fundamentals of this stop even in the 16' range. That said, the Double Open Wood 32' probably has the best rumble outside the reeds and diaphones.
I would like to hear all the 32's with their 16' versions and the 64', but without the 42 2/3.
@@abdullaharif6455 In the room the Tibia is powerful enough to make you feel like you're getting your ears boxed.
@@cnagorka OK I get it, I think I can hear just a tiny deep sound when this stop is played, but I cannot hear the fundamental frequencies of this stop like I can with the other 32' stops. I guess this is normal with flute stops; they are really quiet in the low notes compared to other kinds of stops. But I am sure they can be felt!
Is it so that 32' lowest note vibrates close to 16 Hz which is typical limit of a average human ear to hear ? I just heard that with good headphones.
Interesting, but most of them were really badly out of tune.
I pitched them up by 2 octaves, and they were in tune actually. Sometimes, the overtones make really low notes sound out of tune.
Die Orgel fetzt mit 7 Manuale und Pedal einfach genial so ein riesen Instrument noch nie gesehen in der großen Arena hammer geil.Und sehr gut erklärt konnte mir alles schon denken was so erklärt würde von der Orgel die riesen Wasserpfeifen ist nen Wahnsinn.Wo Du die erklärt hast die rumzen ja Wahnsinnig wenn die einzeln gespielt und vorgeführt werden einfach klasse.Spiele selber Orgel und noch andere Instrumente habe nen Musik Kanal.Monika Wojdak Deutschland Gemany Dessau.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘⛪💒⛪💒⛪💒⛪💒⛪