I was born in 1949 & I can't ever remember NOT celebrating Christmas, My dad was born & brought up in Hawick & my mum was born & brought up in Arbroath The got together during the war when my dad was stationed in Arbroath with the RAF. So whatever the circumstances we as far as I can remember always celebrated Christmas. We were Protestants. Steak Pie was our big Christmas dinner. I was, unfortunately, one of the last to get Christmas day off being a Painter & Decorator in 1964, the last trade to get the break at Christmas 1965
I was born in 1946. No one had turkey when I was young. It was normally a nice chicken. We always had goose at Christmas and New Years,s Day. A traditional Scottish Christmas.
I was just about to write that about goose, as goose is and always has been the traditional foul to eat over Christmas/hogmanay in Scotland and most of the UK
I don't remember ever having chicken - it was very expensive and people were still on rations. I remember vaguely getting a stocking with an apple,orange or tangerene, a choc bar and a 3 penny bit if lucky (we thought we were rich). Very few toys, mostly basic clothes. There was much joy and happiness though. Funny that there had been a ban on this, had no idea. This was a time for children but those "unfortunate" ones were were looked after by charity that most people would give to.
@newsforscotland do you want a gold star for stating the obvious, but if you watched the video one of the so called experts said turkey was the traditional foul to eat at Christmas
In the seven years I lived in Scotland most people considered Christmas " something fur the weans ". When people get older they lose interest unless they have children and grandchildren.
My dad was a miner and had Christmas Day only off , back to work on Boxing Day but at new year he was off while our relatives in England went back to work on the 2nd January, this was in the late fifties/ early sixties , we certainly celebrated Christmas though
As I understand it in England at the time Dickens was alive Christmas was considered more of a rural peasant festival and largely ignored in the towns and cities. Dickens and some others essentially invented English Christmas encouraged by the largely German Royal family who wanted it celebrated. For most people it was a period of additional expense in heating fuel, food shortages and a narrow diet of root vegetables and no fruit.
Humans may have observed the winter solstice as early as Neolithic period-the last part of the Stone Age, beginning about 10,200 BC. Neolithic monuments, such as Newgrange in Ireland and Maeshowe in Scotland, are aligned with sunrise on the winter solstice.
It's horrifying how philosophically ignorant our ancestors have been about who they are and what powers they thought they should have over the thinking of others.
Hogmanay bigger in my parents' youth in 1940s. New Year wasn't offending ANYone's religious beliefs. Christmas largely a pagan festival, a religion that most Scots weren't, and has no date connection to Jesus' incarnation.
The roots of seasonal festivals goes back way further than Christianity which chose its dates to supplant the existing traditions and now likes to think it has taken over, when most of goes on relates to the original pagan traditions.
Where I grew up my father like most working men were in their work on Christmas Day - as I was in on Boxing Day on my apprenticeship in the 1970s . It was a mystery to us - all the English gorging themselves on Turkey (whats a turkey?) instead of Silverside beef /steak pie. Never liked Christmas much anyway - to much excess.
My Uncles and Father actually worked on Xmas Day when they were young men, it was just another working day. Hogmanay was the real big holiday when I was young as well but Scotland has become increasingly Anglicized in those years since. That is Englishified for the ignorant Brits and Sassanachs amongst you.
Catholics always celebrated Christmass from way before the Reformation up to the present day. Also, we have all seen the Salvation Armys singing Christmas Hymns in public places and they still do. Incidentally, without the Catholic Church there wouldn't be Christmas. IT'S IN THE NAME!
How did it go about still being banned after the Scottish parliament was dissolved in 1707 and the ban being lifted before the parliament was reopened?
Probably an act of the Scottish Parliament resulted in a ban in Scots Law. Likely reversed by an act of Westminster parliament, likewise affecting Scots Law.
Not really, you are celebrating the re-branded Ancient Roman festival of Saturnalia, with added chunks of the God Mithras, as well as Odin and his flying horse Sleipnir etc.
I was born in 1949 & I can't ever remember NOT celebrating Christmas, My dad was born & brought up in Hawick & my mum was born & brought up in Arbroath The got together during the war when my dad was stationed in Arbroath with the RAF. So whatever the circumstances we as far as I can remember always celebrated Christmas. We were Protestants. Steak Pie was our big Christmas dinner. I was, unfortunately, one of the last to get Christmas day off being a Painter & Decorator in 1964, the last trade to get the break at Christmas 1965
I was born in 1946. No one had turkey when I was young. It was normally a nice chicken. We always had goose at Christmas and New Years,s Day. A traditional Scottish Christmas.
I was just about to write that about goose, as goose is and always has been the traditional foul to eat over Christmas/hogmanay in Scotland and most of the UK
I don't remember ever having chicken - it was very expensive and people were still on rations. I remember vaguely getting a stocking with an apple,orange or tangerene, a choc bar and a 3 penny bit if lucky (we thought we were rich). Very few toys, mostly basic clothes. There was much joy and happiness though. Funny that there had been a ban on this, had no idea. This was a time for children but those "unfortunate" ones were were looked after by charity that most people would give to.
@@HootMaRootTurkey is the American Thanksgiving Dinner.
@newsforscotland do you want a gold star for stating the obvious, but if you watched the video one of the so called experts said turkey was the traditional foul to eat at Christmas
In the seven years I lived in Scotland most people considered Christmas " something fur the weans ". When people get older they lose interest unless they have children and grandchildren.
My dad was a miner and had Christmas Day only off , back to work on Boxing Day but at new year he was off while our relatives in England went back to work on the 2nd January, this was in the late fifties/ early sixties , we certainly celebrated Christmas though
I remember when it was only Italian cafés shut on Christmas day.
I was born in December 1958, so I'm as old as Christmas in Scotland.. 🎉
Who exactly banned Christmas in Scotland? Who enforced this “illegal” event. They must have missed Fife where it was always celebrated in the 50s.
Interesting to get the full history about something I was aware of and I now find myself giving Christmas a miss, more in relation to other issues.
As I understand it in England at the time Dickens was alive Christmas was considered more of a rural peasant festival and largely ignored in the towns and cities. Dickens and some others essentially invented English Christmas encouraged by the largely German Royal family who wanted it celebrated. For most people it was a period of additional expense in heating fuel, food shortages and a narrow diet of root vegetables and no fruit.
Humans may have observed the winter solstice as early as Neolithic period-the last part of the Stone Age, beginning about 10,200 BC. Neolithic monuments, such as Newgrange in Ireland and Maeshowe in Scotland, are aligned with sunrise on the winter solstice.
It's horrifying how philosophically ignorant our ancestors have been about who they are and what powers they thought they should have over the thinking of others.
And nowadays there is marketing...
funny you say that since we have thought police right now
Hogmanay bigger in my parents' youth in 1940s. New Year wasn't offending ANYone's religious beliefs. Christmas largely a pagan festival, a religion that most Scots weren't, and has no date connection to Jesus' incarnation.
Christmas continued to be celebrated in Catholic areas. The candle in the window was guide Mary and Joseph to Bethlehem, not Jerusalem.
The roots of seasonal festivals goes back way further than Christianity which chose its dates to supplant the existing traditions and now likes to think it has taken over, when most of goes on relates to the original pagan traditions.
Where I grew up my father like most working men were in their work on Christmas Day - as I was in on Boxing Day on my apprenticeship in the 1970s . It was a mystery to us - all the English gorging themselves on Turkey (whats a turkey?) instead of Silverside beef /steak pie. Never liked Christmas much anyway - to much excess.
My Uncles and Father actually worked on Xmas Day when they were young men, it was just another working day. Hogmanay was the real big holiday when I was young as well but Scotland has become increasingly Anglicized in those years since. That is Englishified for the ignorant Brits and Sassanachs amongst you.
Catholics always celebrated Christmass from way before the Reformation up to the present day.
Also, we have all seen the Salvation Armys singing Christmas Hymns in public places and they still do.
Incidentally, without the Catholic Church there wouldn't be Christmas. IT'S IN THE NAME!
How did it go about still being banned after the Scottish parliament was dissolved in 1707 and the ban being lifted before the parliament was reopened?
Probably an act of the Scottish Parliament resulted in a ban in Scots Law. Likely reversed by an act of Westminster parliament, likewise affecting Scots Law.
Merry Christmas everyone, make sure the unfortunate and lonely are taken care of. Happy Hogmany.
💚❤💚😉
Bullshit! I grew up in the 50s and 60s, and Christmas was always the biggest celebration of the year. Hogmanay was almost as big, but not quite.
Christm.as as for children, Hogmany for the grown ups.
Why the fake background to Tom Christie suggesting he's celebrating Christmas? Did he approve this?
No fake background, it's real although the film was, by necessity, filmed several months ago so it could be shown at Christmas.
We are a miserable lot right enough. I for one have never to this day celebrated Christmas. Better to keep your pound in yer pocket.
Bah, humbug!
Yep wee orangemen hating others 🤔nothing really changes does it 🤷🏻♂️
Grow up.
@ ohh… touchy are we
Come on, Scotland Channel, get yourself a decent sound editor and stop looking so amatuerish,
Easy to say when you're doing this on a shoestring :) Happy Christmas !!
@@TheScotlandChannel Want some money?
@@amockcomedy Would never say no!🙂
@@TheScotlandChannel Are you on Patreon?
@@amockcomedy No, not at the moment.
I'm celebrating Xmas from its German origins. Nothing to do with the saxe coburgs or english
Not really, you are celebrating the re-branded Ancient Roman festival of Saturnalia, with added chunks of the God Mithras, as well as Odin and his flying horse Sleipnir etc.