Yes to lithium! The weight advantage alone is amazing. As long as you don't have to charge them in sub freezing temperatures....which is not a problem for you...it is all upside!
Absolutely right, mate, lithium is awesome. Just having most the stated amps (unlike AGM, Lead, etc.) means days more camping without need for charging. Of course your roof top solar helps but when camped in the shade for a few days, lithium means not having to get the solar blanket out and hoping the cable is long enough to reach a sunny spot 🤙
@@dadsandladsoutdoors Yesterday I accidently unplugged the fridge in my car but, since its been so bloody cold lately, after many hours with no power to car fridge, the beers and meat were still cold and in the safe zone. Anyhow, not sure whether to be thankful to National Luna efficiency or the weather Gods for saving the stash but am looking forward to weather more conducive to beer drinking and fridge and 12v system testing 🍺🍺🍻🍻🍺🍺🍻🍻🤣🤣
Hahaha Jen are you tapping our house hahaha 🤣 that Is definitely coming 🥳 she has done a cocktail vid dropping in a few weeks then we have some others filmed 👌👌👌 big second half of the year Thanks so much for all the support
@@dadsandladsoutdoors haha great minds. Not sure how many other ladies are tuning in to the channel but maybe the lads can watch with their partners. Very cool, looking forward to those episodes with Mrs B 🙌
One needs a BIG lithium battery if you want to have a heavy current drain over a longer period. My 200 amp hour lithium allows a max sustained draw of 100amps. For 150 Amps sustained draw, such as a large air fryer or electric stove, one needs at least 300 ampere hours. A couple of grands worth with the inverter. Another trick if using an inverter is to have two switches for it, one through a fifty watt headlamp bulb to the inverter, so as not to shut down the lithium battery's internal management system which does not like the sudden massive draw as the capacitors charge if you just hook it up directly. Turn on switch number one--a light duty switch toggle or push and hold button to a 20 amp relay is fine--bulb will light up. After a little while the bulb will begin to dim and then go out as the current stops when the capacitors are full, and then and only then you turn on the main switch which has to carry one hundred and fifty to 200 amps maximum load--and may require a mercury relay.
Do you have to change the AC to DC charger? Will it still charge from the car? And solar panels? These are some of the problems that come up from changing from Lead Acid to Lithium. If a lithium battery goes flat it becomes a short circuit which can damage your chargers.
Hey mate thanks for watching I only run Redarc chargers mate Dc-Dc 1225D and have never had an issue they have a built in MPPT solar charger for the money there awesome great product I have a Redarc 200w solar panel on the roof so I’ve never had it below 50 percent
Have you seen the new "mini" batteries that just hit the market? They are LFP (LiFePO4) batteries, but they're using compressed pouch cells instead of prismatic. This means the same 100AH worth of capacity is coming in at just under 9kg. You could could fit two of them in the same space, giving you basically 200AH worth of capacity, at about 17.5kg.
@@dadsandladsoutdoors - About $350, US. PowerQueen and Li-Time are both selling one. They use four pouch cells, in series, instead of the prismatic cells. Very efficient little packages, they are!
I'm about to start my 12v in my patrol and it feels a waste not utilising the 2nd battery tray, but yep, you're right, 100 bucks more and you can have a kings lithium with double the amps. Even if it lasts as long as an agm you're still ahead tbh Are you making use of the 2nd battery tray or is it empty?
Hey mate second battery runs the spot light and the winch and a few other small camp lights that I already had on the vehicle Mate dead right for the pice there definitely worth a crack
Cheers for the reply, I wonder if you could get even more weight down by removing the 2nd battery seeing as those accessories are only being run while the engine is on. I could be wrong though, I'm far from an auto sparky aha Exactly right, and I'm like you, I hate using kings but that's very hard to say no to
Yeah would definitely save weight but weight distribution would be affected I removed my second battery as a test and the suspension raised hahaha try it its crazy lol 😂
It’s coming up 12m now and no issues it seems solid As for insurance I’m sure they wouldn’t like big turbos , lifts , bigger tyres …. So battery just adds to the things they hate lol they don’t pay at the best of time so what can ya do
Can I replace my UPS battery with that battery with a lithium battery 100ah for more capacity? I have a 600 watts UPS in which I have my computer, 2 monitors and the router plug in. Can I use that battery? Thank you for your time and assistance!
Yes you could but would require a battery charger. A charger for the UPS is for 9ah led battery not 120ah lithium which requires higher charger voltage
Hello, I am a lithium battery manufacturer from China. We mainly produce and export lithium batteries for RVs, with product voltages of 12V, 24V, and 48V. The battery capacity is available in single units of 100AH, 200AH, 300AH, and can be used in parallel. A single battery comes with a Bluetooth monitoring app, and GPS modules can also be customized according to customer needs. The continuous current of the BMS protection board can reach 250A, but we suggest that the battery discharge current should not exceed 1C. I hope to have the opportunity to serve you.
If you're looking for another tip to reduce weight, can I suggest you ditch your heavy Engel fridge and replace it with a Dometic, MyCoolman or Evakool. Can probably save another 10kg right there.
AGM is better for powering high amp drain appliances, lithium ion phosphate batteries are never supposed to power high amp drain appliances neither are they designed to be rabidly charged which is exactly why tou dont connect them to an alternator
Lifepo4 charges at 1C. AGM charges at .2C Hugh difference. AGM can only be discharged to 50%. Lifepo4 can be totally discharged. Lifepo4 is the better choice, especially at todays prices.
Yes to lithium! The weight advantage alone is amazing. As long as you don't have to charge them in sub freezing temperatures....which is not a problem for you...it is all upside!
And she is a ripper been going really well atm
Absolutely right, mate, lithium is awesome. Just having most the stated amps (unlike AGM, Lead, etc.) means days more camping without need for charging. Of course your roof top solar helps but when camped in the shade for a few days, lithium means not having to get the solar blanket out and hoping the cable is long enough to reach a sunny spot 🤙
Dead right Karl just doubling that capacity is awesome going to help with those Summer camps where the fridge is working hard
@@dadsandladsoutdoors Yesterday I accidently unplugged the fridge in my car but, since its been so bloody cold lately, after many hours with no power to car fridge, the beers and meat were still cold and in the safe zone. Anyhow, not sure whether to be thankful to National Luna efficiency or the weather Gods for saving the stash but am looking forward to weather more conducive to beer drinking and fridge and 12v system testing 🍺🍺🍻🍻🍺🍺🍻🍻🤣🤣
Yeoooow 10kg extra for Mrs B to pack 🙌🏼
😂😂😂 overnight camp ⛺️ pack for 10 days 😂😂😂
Is Mrs B going to do a video ever for the ladies? As in a little look at what essentials the ladies might like to have on a camp?
Hahaha Jen are you tapping our house hahaha 🤣 that Is definitely coming 🥳 she has done a cocktail vid dropping in a few weeks then we have some others filmed 👌👌👌 big second half of the year
Thanks so much for all the support
@@dadsandladsoutdoors haha great minds. Not sure how many other ladies are tuning in to the channel but maybe the lads can watch with their partners.
Very cool, looking forward to those episodes with Mrs B 🙌
@@JenBolst yeah definitely mite get some more family’s out camping and enjoying the outdoors
I took my 300AH kings battery up to the tip of capeyork ( in my caravan no problems at all, was great
Ripper mate I’m gonna go one
@@dadsandladsoutdoors surprised how it went, I just need to update my solar on the caravan to suit
Great video as always
Thanks Jen 🙌🙌🙌 need a camp ⛺️
Have you thought of putting a Victron BMV 712 battery monitor on. It shows you the state of charge a lot more accurately than a voltmeter.
Hey mate no I haven’t it has the Projecta BM500-BT full app which is unreal to use the data you can get if it is elite
One needs a BIG lithium battery if you want to have a heavy current drain over a longer period. My 200 amp hour lithium allows a max sustained draw of 100amps. For 150 Amps sustained draw, such as a large air fryer or electric stove, one needs at least 300 ampere hours. A couple of grands worth with the inverter. Another trick if using an inverter is to have two switches for it, one through a fifty watt headlamp bulb to the inverter, so as not to shut down the lithium battery's internal management system which does not like the sudden massive draw as the capacitors charge if you just hook it up directly. Turn on switch number one--a light duty switch toggle or push and hold button to a 20 amp relay is fine--bulb will light up. After a little while the bulb will begin to dim and then go out as the current stops when the capacitors are full, and then and only then you turn on the main switch which has to carry one hundred and fifty to 200 amps maximum load--and may require a mercury relay.
Yeah mate that’s right we have the caravan which has a huge lithium setup in it 🙌 this kings banger is perfect for the car on a budget
Do you have to change the AC to DC charger? Will it still charge from the car? And solar panels?
These are some of the problems that come up from changing from Lead Acid to Lithium. If a lithium battery goes flat it becomes a short circuit which can damage your chargers.
Hey mate thanks for watching
I only run Redarc chargers mate Dc-Dc 1225D and have never had an issue they have a built in MPPT solar charger for the money there awesome great product
I have a Redarc 200w solar panel on the roof so I’ve never had it below 50 percent
Awesome mate
Cheers podge 😎
Have you seen the new "mini" batteries that just hit the market? They are LFP (LiFePO4) batteries, but they're using compressed pouch cells instead of prismatic. This means the same 100AH worth of capacity is coming in at just under 9kg. You could could fit two of them in the same space, giving you basically 200AH worth of capacity, at about 17.5kg.
Mate I haven’t they sound awesome bro 😎 I’ll check them out what price are they ?
@@dadsandladsoutdoors - About $350, US. PowerQueen and Li-Time are both selling one. They use four pouch cells, in series, instead of the prismatic cells. Very efficient little packages, they are!
@@jasonbroom7147 wicked mate I’ll be checking them out 🙌
I bought the 300ah I notice the bms doesn’t cut the battery out at 15-20 percent mark to save the battery
Those blue top new kings batterys are way better then the old kings black top battery
Hey mate, I haven’t had any issues yet it seems to be humming along nicely
I may get 2x 300 for my caravan
I'm about to start my 12v in my patrol and it feels a waste not utilising the 2nd battery tray, but yep, you're right, 100 bucks more and you can have a kings lithium with double the amps. Even if it lasts as long as an agm you're still ahead tbh
Are you making use of the 2nd battery tray or is it empty?
Hey mate second battery runs the spot light and the winch and a few other small camp lights that I already had on the vehicle
Mate dead right for the pice there definitely worth a crack
Cheers for the reply, I wonder if you could get even more weight down by removing the 2nd battery seeing as those accessories are only being run while the engine is on. I could be wrong though, I'm far from an auto sparky aha
Exactly right, and I'm like you, I hate using kings but that's very hard to say no to
Yeah would definitely save weight but weight distribution would be affected I removed my second battery as a test and the suspension raised hahaha try it its crazy lol 😂
Ahaha that's actually a valid point
At least you've got a back up agm if the kings battery shits the bed lol
@@JoshSinnott97 hahaha yeah that’s it mate for me it was a win win and touch wood it’s been doing well
Definitely need to look at lithium myself. My 170ah AGM is 45Kg 🤦♂️
100 percent mate so worth it
Ask your insurance company for a letter if they cover kings battery fires mine said hell NO!
It’s coming up 12m now and no issues it seems solid
As for insurance I’m sure they wouldn’t like big turbos , lifts , bigger tyres …. So battery just adds to the things they hate lol they don’t pay at the best of time so what can ya do
If you did it for the weight why didn't you get a 60Ah battery?
Because I run the oven off grid and 60ah in winter doesn’t cut it champ
Can I replace my UPS battery with that battery with a lithium battery 100ah for more capacity? I have a 600 watts UPS in which I have my computer, 2 monitors and the router plug in. Can I use that battery? Thank you for your time and assistance!
I’m not sure mate give Kings a call they are the gurus
Yes you could but would require a battery charger.
A charger for the UPS is for 9ah led battery not 120ah lithium which requires higher charger voltage
Hello, I am a lithium battery manufacturer from China. We mainly produce and export lithium batteries for RVs, with product voltages of 12V, 24V, and 48V. The battery capacity is available in single units of 100AH, 200AH, 300AH, and can be used in parallel. A single battery comes with a Bluetooth monitoring app, and GPS modules can also be customized according to customer needs. The continuous current of the BMS protection board can reach 250A, but we suggest that the battery discharge current should not exceed 1C. I hope to have the opportunity to serve you.
Thanks champion 🙌
There are no products that cannot be customized, as long as you need@@dadsandladsoutdoors
why no battery box?
No real need for a battery box
Mate those 120 amp Bosch batteries are around 36kg so you about 20kgs better off
Yeah mate 100 percent
If you're looking for another tip to reduce weight, can I suggest you ditch your heavy Engel fridge and replace it with a Dometic, MyCoolman or Evakool. Can probably save another 10kg right there.
Nah mate those fridges are junk I have a mycoolman in my caravan and nothing handles the hot Aussie heat like an Engle
@@dadsandladsoutdoorsI agree
@toby621 best in the game 😎
V@@dadsandladsoutdoors had a trailblazer for twenty years , faultless still makes ice in the blink of an eye 😎
@j-1159 nice mate good run out of it
Nah all AGM for me i know 3 ppl that have had car fires because of lithium and they were ALL kings
@@cindoz1289 probs there wiring the BMS in these isn’t bad …
Buying Kings lithium batteries is a BIG mistake ... the lithium versions are made with recycled EV batteries!
@@johnussss 16 months going strong I beg to differ for $399
24 month warranty not 12
Thanks legend 👌
@@dadsandladsoutdoors I've just opened the box on mine and it says 12 months yet the website says 24
@@Nightlifeimages yeah mate that’s why I said 12months in the video , from what I’ve been told it’s only 12m mate 👌
@@dadsandladsoutdoors they have to honor what they advertise so just take a photo of the website for safe keeping lol.
Hahahah yeah tbh haven’t had much luck with the warranty in the past that’s why I’m always reluctant to run there gear
AGM is better for powering high amp drain appliances, lithium ion phosphate batteries are never supposed to power high amp drain appliances neither are they designed to be rabidly charged which is exactly why tou dont connect them to an alternator
Thanks for that mate
Lifepo4 charges at 1C. AGM charges at .2C
Hugh difference. AGM can only be discharged to 50%. Lifepo4 can be totally discharged. Lifepo4 is the better choice, especially at todays prices.