eroge = ero+ge = erotic game charage = chara+ge = character(focused) game plotge = plot+ge = plot(centric) game nakige = naki(cry)+ge = cry game utsuge = utsu(depressing/sad)+ge = sad game you can fill in the rest.
Only good thing to come out of that OVA is how Reiji was voiced by the same VA as Archer from Fate/stay night Quite funny to bring it up in a Fate discussion.
"Sweet Pool" as yaoi example is a little funny to me, because it's the most utsuge game Nitro+Chiral created. If you don't want to be depressed so much, let's play "Lamento", "Togainu no Chi" or "Slow Damage" by the same studio. ^^
sweet pool is soooo good tho...it's definitely not for the faint of heart but it's such a fantastic story i think DMMD is the most approachable N+C game overall but even that has some pretty crazy stuff going on
For what started as a parody, Hatoful Boyfriend (the pigeon dating sim/otome, it has stat building) is actually pretty good. I did NOT expect it to make me cry, and it even has some violence/gore (although it's not shown). Psychedelica of the Ashen Hawk is one of my favorite VNs of all time, but some otome fans dislike it because they feel it's too plot heavy with not enough romance. I can see where they're coming from but the characters and story were so good that I didn’t mind. I knew I was in for a good time three seconds into the OP when I realized Akiko Shikata wrote it. She also made a version of Scarborough Fair for the game and it's amazing.
As an otome game fan myself, I greatly enjoyed Ashen Hawk as more of a plot-focused game and I found the romance to be lacking (except for Traveler's, my beloved). Francisca is one of my favorite VN characters to this day-there's a lot to say about her. Same can be said for Hatoful Boyfriend, a masterclass in bait and switch
When it comes to Hateful Boyfriend most people probably just finish a single route, assuming that it's all there is to it. The final route you unlock when finishing all the others really packs a punch with its story and themes and really caught me by surprise as well. The Christmas themed sequel was also rather charming.
@@purelysmetalnightcore Do otome fans dislike Collar x Malice too? Compared to other otome games I've played, it felt really plot heavy, which was a plus in my side.
@2MilyonTM No, it's actually one of the most popular ones. With CxM you get to see Ichika's relationships with the love interests become romantic over the course of each route and it's not tacked on at the end, however in Ashen Hawk the romance is rushed in most routes because it was pretty difficult to put it anywhere in the first place. Ashen Hawk also has more endings than a typical otome that has a good/happy/normal ending for each guy, and overall most are not romantic or at least very bittersweet. There's not a whole lot of intimacy and very few CGs of the characters hugging/kissing. Plus the heroine has spent most of her life disguised as a boy out of necessity to survive and so she strongly suppresses her romantic desires as a result. Again I think it's absolutely amazing and I think the lack of romance actually makes sense and doesn't hinder the story, but yeah overall it definitely has less romance than CxM, so I can see why Ashen Hawk would be disappointing for some people.
using sweet pool to demonstrate yaoi is funny bcs if anything sweet pool is the most utsuge thing ever. youll probably forget theres romance while you're playing through the batsht insane parts
I hadn't even heard of 80% of the genres described here, but honestly it seems really useful to find something specific. I sank into a rabbit hole of Visual Novels after reading Amanatsu when I saw your video on it, after that I went to Aokana & now I'm on Atri: My Dear Moments. Sufficed to say you've started something here lol
Begging the people of the comment section to give hatoful boyfriend a shot. The main routes are alright, (Ryouta’s and Nageki’s are surprisingly emotional, Okosan and Anghel’s are funny, Yuuya’s has a strong plot, and Sakuya’s got great character growth, while Shuu and Nanaki both tease at the greater plot to come) but the true ending is truly AWESOME. It’s an exciting thriller with strong emotions and truly memorable characters. Am I emotional about these birds? Absolutely. Please don’t dismiss hatoful! Check it out!
it's one of the OG parody VNs in my book and about the only one i genuinely like, precisely because they were more genuine and sincere about it than any other parody game i've seen. the creator cares deeply about the characters and their stories, the game doesn't just coast off of "hey isn't this WACKY?", even though the comedy is there and it's pretty funny i feel like some people took the wrong conclusion from hatoful's popularity and started making shallow haha funnee meme dating sims without realizing what actually made hatoful so good
@@godhand291 This. The anime for 'Air' should have been my clue, then Kanon, then Clannad, but that stupid shit in Little Busters finally snapped me into 'Why am I watching this?' Mind you, the KyoAni anime are amazing (minus the tragic shit) so that may have masked my discovery for longer than it needed to.
same. it surpass all the literaturary works I've read. Even though I'm not as emotionally invested in it like the first time I've read, I still can't find a work that can dethrone it.
I don't know if the anime did it dirty, but it seemed like the most contrived story I've ever seen, where the MC is vehemently denying that magic exists despite being in magical situations such as time being stopped or having images projected for him.
This was a great video because I'm relatively new to visual novels having only played saya no uta, totono, and ddlc before finding your channel. I am also currently 30 hours into subahibi and loving it (from your top visual novels video!) I imagine that this video was inspired by videos like 'every anime studio explained in X minutes' and I think it would be really cool to do this concept for visual novel studios. I'm really only familiar with nitroplus and it would be nice to learn more about the quick history and influence of important studios. Thank you for the vids August!!
School Days must be considered as a kusoge purely because people don't enjoy the plot, because the game itself is quite impressive on visual novel aspect only. The game is an interactive anime, in which you play as a male mc cheating his way into multiple relationships with many, many, many bad endings because it can be considered as a deconstruction of the dating sim genre. Girls you can date will turn yanderes and murder you because yes, you're cheating on them all the time, and I think there's some good endings hidden behind the slaughterfest.
Game also got good/fair endings like snow one Also game gives you an option of quit katsura relationship it got 21 finals for a reason, for you to get as much experiences as possible
i got into the medium through BL but i appreciate basically every genre at this point. a good story is a good story, or even just some fun eye candy from time to time school days being marked as kusoge gave me a good chuckle
Thanks for the concise and accurate presentation of the different genres, I was always curious on many of them but was too lazy to actually search for ALL of them. Thank you again and I hope to see more of your reviews any time in the future. Maybe an Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney series review? (Not a visual novel but maybe?)
A bit disappointed you didn't mention Katawa Shoujo. A visual novel with Nakage, Charage, and some Eroge elements (which can be turned off in the main menu). The series takes place at a school for physically disabled students with a focus on the characters and storyline, with an immersive soundtrack. The nakage elements mainly are found in a couple of paths (Hanako and Emi) which goes into the past of the characters.
really wish the clips you used as examples were labeled, especially the denpa ones. can anyone help me identify them?? i'm especially intrigued by the one at 6:02
I must be lucky finding this as soon as I've gotten into reading visual novels. Also yes, Umineko is 100% a kamige for me in the Mystery Genre. It's an absolute masterpiece. I don't think anything can ever top it.
I think we both can agree that Baldr's Sky is most definitely a Kamige. Seriously, I cannot find the words to properly describe how I felt when I finished the whole thing.
@@komocakeps527 Very untrue. Baldr Sky is incredible in terms of gameplay. Yes, there is unlocking of customization options, but you don't have to grind whatsoever. The first two routes ease the player in rather gently while the kid gloves come off in route 3 and beyond. Each route's gameplay is different, as you encounter more and more enemies in quantity and quality alike. By route 5, you have to play very intelligently or you'll be dying a LOT. The only downside is that the game ends up requiring a LOT of time to complete, as the routes unlock progressively. You can't play route 2 before playing route 1. The only time it gets repetitive is at the finale, as you are repeating route 6 with a few extra options. Edit: Baldr Sky is a "Kamige" in my eyes too.
Eh i dont really feel its grindy because if it just onlocking weapon o dont mind for it. And the plot especially now we have complite Baldr Sky..,.. I still cant belive they franslate this VN
The fact that 75% of these is some way or another about waifus, and that half of those are filled with "adult content" makes me realize how tragically fortunate I was to almost exclusively discover the other options on my own.
I had a normie senior back then in my early university days. One day, he found out that I played a Visual Novel. He said "Yo, you are playing dating sim? Poor soul. Go for real girl man." As a weeb and VN enthusiast, I was so triggered because what I was playing back then was Little Busters (I was marathoning several Key games that time) lol. How dare him lumped every VN style games into dating sim category!?
@@Barbarossa125 I though about Zero Time Dilemma (which is absent from vndb) - not Virtue's Last Reward which is basically Zero escape 2. And Ace Attorney has special notification in red letters at their page v711 - about it not being a vn. So in the end only one of the three is there - as I said before.
@@SergejKrolik You're right. Zero Tme Dilemma is indeed missing. I never noticed that. o: Also, I never noticed the red text at Ace Attorney, albeit the Phoenix Wright series seems to be on their list of borderline games, as well as the Danganronpa-series. So, they seem to be a bit indecisive about that. Also, I wonder why Zero Time Dilemma isn't in the database, while AI: The Somnium Files and Nirvana Initiative are there, even without being seen as borderline despite being similar. Maybe the part of "chapter choosing" as kind of a gameplay mechanism was a bit too VN-unlikely in ZTD. 😅
@@Barbarossa125 Ace Attorney, Danganronpa, and several other borderline cases like the other Zero Escape games were kept on VNDB after the term "visual novel" was made more clear/strict in a rule change a while back, mainly due to fear of random people complaining if they were to be taken off. (To give a reference on how lax the rules were, Persona 3 and 4 were on VNDB at one point.) Zero Time Dilemma released *after* this clarification, and therefore did not need to be grandfathered in out of fear of complaints
Is there any term to distinguish between VNs where your choices take you down different routes, vs VNs where you're simply along for the ride? 'Played' Higurashi a few years back and while I very much enjoyed the story, it felt strange due to the fact that there were no (meaningful) choices that could be made.
@@DIASENREDS I wonder if Find Love or Die Trying is a dating sim or more exactly a visual novel? Because it's a bit different, due to spoiler plot reasons. But I liked how the plot is about a dating show. Otherwise, I'm going to look into Senren * Banka to make sure. I have been playing Our Life: Beginnings & Always so it's got stats and a lot of loops to make the childhood friend angle work. Can be het too with changable pronouns. I think technically odd games like Slay The Princess might have themes about love. And there's a disclaimer about it being a love story. But it's a visual novel that's also really detail heavy. Just not a stat raiser. Or Monster Camp. That's a jaunty feeling kind of dating sim with the stats.
I don't know how some can categorise it as Kusoge. It is an interactive anime series with an insanely wide branching plot. I can only guess how much effort was put into it to make it.
Labeling School Days as a kusoge is very off. It has extremely high production quality with full on animated scenes of a high visual fidelity and an enormous web of routes and alternate endings. The people who claim its a kusoge simply do not like the story and the main character, you can dislike these things without calling it a bad visual novel when it is not.
I kinda wish they released the PS Vita version of Dramatical Murder in the west. It has no R18 content but the additional content adds some depth to the story. I know the full uncensored version is on Steam now but still, I wish they added the PS Vita content as DLC.
its honestly kinda sad how NTY has become the front of "bara" VNs, after all fat men are also a big part in bara media, if we go by popularity i wouldve put morenatsu but most truly bara VNs are either not localized or VERY unpopular
you should check out whispers of the luminaries. its in demo still but even the demo is quite good imo. I've never really played detective games but it really made me pay attention instead of just going through each item hoping it will work
Please help! Can someone tell me where 4:32 is from? ("I would never yearn...never curse") and 4:39 and 4:47? Heck, just tell me all the Utsuge ones haha! I'd honestly love recommendations for this genre right now, I need it~
I have read at least of 46 visual novels out there and I swear that I never thought I need this video so bad. Although my read list is not as much as you do or as much as floatingtrash is, I am at least proud of the number of visual novels I have read. This just shows that the world of VN is really huge and I am here to become a student again. Despite that I have just finish my masters, I felt like this video really shows that you have the PhD in Visual Novels, and I am so glad that I follow this channel 😊(I am just a zako reader comparing to you 🤣) Also can anyone tell me what is the name of this VN at 0:07 where there's two girls wearing blue clothes on the top? I have been searching for this VN but I don't even remember the name of this title please. Thanks in advance.
@@behindyou9743 the amount of text in ace attorney definitely makes it count as a visual novel. Besides, there are a few other games that have done it as well, Attorney of the Arcane comes to mind.
@@theoriginalcatfish I get what you mean, I’ve played such games with amazing plot as well - not limited to the courtroom, but have a similar style of finding and presenting the right “evidence”. Perhaps it could be another sub-category of visual novels like you implied.
I'll never be the same after all Nitro+Chiral BL novels... Sweet Pool, Togainu no Chi, DmMd, Lamento, Slow Damage, they are just SOOOO good. Also, for everyone interested in genre, you should try "Beyond Eden", game from Korean studio i guess??? As for otome, "7's scarlet" is a very cool game. CrIed a LOT
eroge = ero+ge = erotic game
charage = chara+ge = character(focused) game
plotge = plot+ge = plot(centric) game
nakige = naki(cry)+ge = cry game
utsuge = utsu(depressing/sad)+ge = sad game
you can fill in the rest.
Yup pretty much, but what is nuki in nukige though, if you don't mind me asking? Also denpa
@@onebear6504 iirc nuki means naked. and denpa means radiowaves or something.
@@komocakeps527 I see, thanks for the info~
@@komocakeps527 @onebear6504 nuki comes from the word nuku (抜く) which colloquially can mean to fap, so... fap game :')
what about karaage? ... sorry, I couldn't resist it. I'll let myself out 😂
Now I'm slightly less confused by all these terms
I’m still mad about Kara no shojou was turned into a hentai ova and not a proper anime. My favourite visual novel
Only good thing to come out of that OVA is how Reiji was voiced by the same VA as Archer from Fate/stay night
Quite funny to bring it up in a Fate discussion.
@@vitoscaletta7151 iirc KnS second episode is also voiced by him.
It's an eroge anime adaptation don't expect anything good lol
I’m still happy about Kara no shojou was turned into a hentai ova and not a proper anime. My favourite visual novel
@@TarraskyPiano w self-gatekeeping fr
"Sweet Pool" as yaoi example is a little funny to me, because it's the most utsuge game Nitro+Chiral created. If you don't want to be depressed so much, let's play "Lamento", "Togainu no Chi" or "Slow Damage" by the same studio. ^^
Nitro+ is allergic to happy games, Chiral in particular…
slow damage is pretty depressing too
sweet pool is soooo good tho...it's definitely not for the faint of heart but it's such a fantastic story
i think DMMD is the most approachable N+C game overall but even that has some pretty crazy stuff going on
Lamento is so underrated.
slow damage is more depressing wdym
For what started as a parody, Hatoful Boyfriend (the pigeon dating sim/otome, it has stat building) is actually pretty good. I did NOT expect it to make me cry, and it even has some violence/gore (although it's not shown).
Psychedelica of the Ashen Hawk is one of my favorite VNs of all time, but some otome fans dislike it because they feel it's too plot heavy with not enough romance. I can see where they're coming from but the characters and story were so good that I didn’t mind. I knew I was in for a good time three seconds into the OP when I realized Akiko Shikata wrote it. She also made a version of Scarborough Fair for the game and it's amazing.
As an otome game fan myself, I greatly enjoyed Ashen Hawk as more of a plot-focused game and I found the romance to be lacking (except for Traveler's, my beloved). Francisca is one of my favorite VN characters to this day-there's a lot to say about her. Same can be said for Hatoful Boyfriend, a masterclass in bait and switch
When it comes to Hateful Boyfriend most people probably just finish a single route, assuming that it's all there is to it. The final route you unlock when finishing all the others really packs a punch with its story and themes and really caught me by surprise as well. The Christmas themed sequel was also rather charming.
@@purelysmetalnightcore Do otome fans dislike Collar x Malice too? Compared to other otome games I've played, it felt really plot heavy, which was a plus in my side.
@2MilyonTM No, it's actually one of the most popular ones. With CxM you get to see Ichika's relationships with the love interests become romantic over the course of each route and it's not tacked on at the end, however in Ashen Hawk the romance is rushed in most routes because it was pretty difficult to put it anywhere in the first place. Ashen Hawk also has more endings than a typical otome that has a good/happy/normal ending for each guy, and overall most are not romantic or at least very bittersweet. There's not a whole lot of intimacy and very few CGs of the characters hugging/kissing. Plus the heroine has spent most of her life disguised as a boy out of necessity to survive and so she strongly suppresses her romantic desires as a result. Again I think it's absolutely amazing and I think the lack of romance actually makes sense and doesn't hinder the story, but yeah overall it definitely has less romance than CxM, so I can see why Ashen Hawk would be disappointing for some people.
Hatoful Boyfriend’s second game, Holiday Star in particular is really good. The plot twist at the end hit me hard
Bara/Gei Komi is rarely mentioned in general VN spaces, so kudos for mentioning it in the Yaoi section o/
using sweet pool to demonstrate yaoi is funny bcs if anything sweet pool is the most utsuge thing ever. youll probably forget theres romance while you're playing through the batsht insane parts
So glad you showed milk outside/inside in the denpa genre, its so great
SWEET POOL MENTIONED 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I hadn't even heard of 80% of the genres described here, but honestly it seems really useful to find something specific. I sank into a rabbit hole of Visual Novels after reading Amanatsu when I saw your video on it, after that I went to Aokana & now I'm on Atri: My Dear Moments. Sufficed to say you've started something here lol
Hope you have a great time 👍
Umineko made me stay up till 4 am as a teen and horribly sleep deprived. Kamige for sure.
Real
It's peak
Begging the people of the comment section to give hatoful boyfriend a shot. The main routes are alright, (Ryouta’s and Nageki’s are surprisingly emotional, Okosan and Anghel’s are funny, Yuuya’s has a strong plot, and Sakuya’s got great character growth, while Shuu and Nanaki both tease at the greater plot to come) but the true ending is truly AWESOME. It’s an exciting thriller with strong emotions and truly memorable characters. Am I emotional about these birds? Absolutely. Please don’t dismiss hatoful! Check it out!
it's one of the OG parody VNs in my book and about the only one i genuinely like, precisely because they were more genuine and sincere about it than any other parody game i've seen. the creator cares deeply about the characters and their stories, the game doesn't just coast off of "hey isn't this WACKY?", even though the comedy is there and it's pretty funny
i feel like some people took the wrong conclusion from hatoful's popularity and started making shallow haha funnee meme dating sims without realizing what actually made hatoful so good
Hatoful was literally the first VN I ever played, and the reason I continued to play more VNs.
I DID NOT expect you to list hashihime
Such a trip of a game 10/10
Clannad may be spoiled by Nakige tag, but Tomoyo After is a certified trainwreck of feels
At a certain point you just get spoiled by the Key tag lol
Tomoyo after teared me 10x times more than clannad 😢
@@godhand291 This. The anime for 'Air' should have been my clue, then Kanon, then Clannad, but that stupid shit in Little Busters finally snapped me into 'Why am I watching this?'
Mind you, the KyoAni anime are amazing (minus the tragic shit) so that may have masked my discovery for longer than it needed to.
slow damage mention
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Ame pfp spotted
Umineko is a kamige. It has, to me, the best story I've encountered in any piece of fiction.
same. it surpass all the literaturary works I've read. Even though I'm not as emotionally invested in it like the first time I've read, I still can't find a work that can dethrone it.
It’s mid lmao
@@aqualucasYT your mom is mid lmao
It was pretty great. But it kinda lost me at the end. 🤔
I don't know if the anime did it dirty, but it seemed like the most contrived story I've ever seen, where the MC is vehemently denying that magic exists despite being in magical situations such as time being stopped or having images projected for him.
8:36 I'm so grateful you included bara
This was a great video because I'm relatively new to visual novels having only played saya no uta, totono, and ddlc before finding your channel. I am also currently 30 hours into subahibi and loving it (from your top visual novels video!) I imagine that this video was inspired by videos like 'every anime studio explained in X minutes' and I think it would be really cool to do this concept for visual novel studios. I'm really only familiar with nitroplus and it would be nice to learn more about the quick history and influence of important studios. Thank you for the vids August!!
Ame pfp spotted
School Days must be considered as a kusoge purely because people don't enjoy the plot, because the game itself is quite impressive on visual novel aspect only. The game is an interactive anime, in which you play as a male mc cheating his way into multiple relationships with many, many, many bad endings because it can be considered as a deconstruction of the dating sim genre. Girls you can date will turn yanderes and murder you because yes, you're cheating on them all the time, and I think there's some good endings hidden behind the slaughterfest.
Agreed
Game also got good/fair endings like snow one
Also game gives you an option of quit katsura relationship
it got 21 finals for a reason, for you to get as much experiences as possible
i got into the medium through BL but i appreciate basically every genre at this point. a good story is a good story, or even just some fun eye candy from time to time
school days being marked as kusoge gave me a good chuckle
DMMD MENTIONED 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Miku pfp spotted
@@Kyu_kurarin2010 live laugh love miku ❤️
@@karoyi live laugh miku
Thanks for the concise and accurate presentation of the different genres, I was always curious on many of them but was too lazy to actually search for ALL of them.
Thank you again and I hope to see more of your reviews any time in the future.
Maybe an Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney series review? (Not a visual novel but maybe?)
Glad it was helpful! And...perhaps in the future???
1:14 ah yes, *attractive girls*
props to you for being able to say oppai academy big bouncy booby babes without laughing. because it couldnt be me
Great video. Perfect introduction for those new to the genre.
Glad you liked it!
Not usually a commenter, but this was the sign I needed to replay sweet pool thanks August :)
i'm glad you're out here educating people on this stuff
HASHIHIME OF THE OLD BOOK TOWN MENTION‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳 (great video btw!)
Thanks~!
DAMN THE TRANSITION FROM THUMBNAIL TO VIDEO WAS INSANE
I had to watch just because i saw Yanagi in the thumbnail lol
Im personally a vn fan, especially with the otome genre
A bit disappointed you didn't mention Katawa Shoujo. A visual novel with Nakage, Charage, and some Eroge elements (which can be turned off in the main menu). The series takes place at a school for physically disabled students with a focus on the characters and storyline, with an immersive soundtrack. The nakage elements mainly are found in a couple of paths (Hanako and Emi) which goes into the past of the characters.
I feel like because of the 4ch connection most people who haven't played it assume it's a kusoge/edgelord parody unfortunately
i love hatoful boyfriend so much and how it walks the fine line of silly bird dating sim to impending (rather gruesome) doom
really wish the clips you used as examples were labeled, especially the denpa ones. can anyone help me identify them?? i'm especially intrigued by the one at 6:02
Milk Outside of a Bag of Milk Outside of a Bag of Milk!
7:07 I LOVE YOU TOKIMEKI MEMORIALLL
Finally having a word for my fave kinds of stories means im about to get into a LOT more vms, bless you! (Nakige - also long live Key lol)
I must be lucky finding this as soon as I've gotten into reading visual novels. Also yes, Umineko is 100% a kamige for me in the Mystery Genre. It's an absolute masterpiece. I don't think anything can ever top it.
I think we both can agree that Baldr's Sky is most definitely a Kamige. Seriously, I cannot find the words to properly describe how I felt when I finished the whole thing.
some people say its gameplay is horribad and very grindy though. no idea how true that is though.
@@komocakeps527 Very untrue. Baldr Sky is incredible in terms of gameplay. Yes, there is unlocking of customization options, but you don't have to grind whatsoever. The first two routes ease the player in rather gently while the kid gloves come off in route 3 and beyond. Each route's gameplay is different, as you encounter more and more enemies in quantity and quality alike. By route 5, you have to play very intelligently or you'll be dying a LOT. The only downside is that the game ends up requiring a LOT of time to complete, as the routes unlock progressively. You can't play route 2 before playing route 1. The only time it gets repetitive is at the finale, as you are repeating route 6 with a few extra options.
Edit: Baldr Sky is a "Kamige" in my eyes too.
Eh i dont really feel its grindy because if it just onlocking weapon o dont mind for it. And the plot especially now we have complite Baldr Sky..,.. I still cant belive they franslate this VN
I keep on confusing Baldr's Sky with Baldur's Gate lol
Well explained. Thanks for making this video!
Glad it was helpful!
GURO: Gen Urobuchi. G.URO.
Coincidence? DON'T THINK SO. 🙌
The fact that 75% of these is some way or another about waifus, and that half of those are filled with "adult content" makes me realize how tragically fortunate I was to almost exclusively discover the other options on my own.
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING TO HEART 🎉 i'm so sad how many people nowadays don't know it, it's such a great series
I didn't think see Slow Damage in the video (even if the name is not say)
I just love it
I had a normie senior back then in my early university days. One day, he found out that I played a Visual Novel. He said "Yo, you are playing dating sim? Poor soul. Go for real girl man." As a weeb and VN enthusiast, I was so triggered because what I was playing back then was Little Busters (I was marathoning several Key games that time) lol. How dare him lumped every VN style games into dating sim category!?
Love your videos bro. Great work
Glad you like them! Thanks~
> K-ON as an example of CGDCT
> shows one of the most brutal and heartbreaking moments in all of anime
never 4get mio's strawberry
A crime she will never be forgiven of
谢谢！
I'm... mortified at how many of these titles I've encountered, and I'm not even a genre enthusiast.
5:20 how did you keep a straight face while saying this😭😭😭
This was great! Though the true mark of a master visual novel creator is to create a work that is both kamige and kusoge at the same time.
well, i can only say, an expert VN content creator Like you have right to make such video
and
that was very awesome one
Respect for saying the Eroge title without laughing
i consider Umineko to be a kamige 😊
To add to your disclaimer, i'd say that those are closer to cataloging/content tags then actually genre.
I love denpa visual novels, I love games where you question reality after completing them.
Based. We needed a video like this for a long time. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I am addicted to stories that will make me cry. Nothing can quite live up to Puella Magi Madoka Magica tho.
What About Violet Evergarden, not familiar with the Magical girl genra only knows sailor moon but i will give it a try
@@panjinurfadillah2489 Will have to give that a try too!
What category do mystery solving VNs like Dangaronpa, Ace Attorney, and Zero Escape go into?
Plot-ge. Except Ace Attorney/Zero Escape are NOT visual novels. And Danganronpa is very borderline case.
@@SergejKrolik All three are listed in the visual novel database. o:
@@Barbarossa125 I though about Zero Time Dilemma (which is absent from vndb) - not Virtue's Last Reward which is basically Zero escape 2. And Ace Attorney has special notification in red letters at their page v711 - about it not being a vn. So in the end only one of the three is there - as I said before.
@@SergejKrolik You're right. Zero Tme Dilemma is indeed missing. I never noticed that. o:
Also, I never noticed the red text at Ace Attorney, albeit the Phoenix Wright series seems to be on their list of borderline games, as well as the Danganronpa-series. So, they seem to be a bit indecisive about that.
Also, I wonder why Zero Time Dilemma isn't in the database, while AI: The Somnium Files and Nirvana Initiative are there, even without being seen as borderline despite being similar.
Maybe the part of "chapter choosing" as kind of a gameplay mechanism was a bit too VN-unlikely in ZTD. 😅
@@Barbarossa125 Ace Attorney, Danganronpa, and several other borderline cases like the other Zero Escape games were kept on VNDB after the term "visual novel" was made more clear/strict in a rule change a while back, mainly due to fear of random people complaining if they were to be taken off. (To give a reference on how lax the rules were, Persona 3 and 4 were on VNDB at one point.)
Zero Time Dilemma released *after* this clarification, and therefore did not need to be grandfathered in out of fear of complaints
Seabed mentioned!!!
Would love to see a Swan Song review, despite reading many more VNs it remains #1 in my heart because of the scenario
10:10 - 10:16 the way that it got cut off 😂
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Is there any term to distinguish between VNs where your choices take you down different routes, vs VNs where you're simply along for the ride? 'Played' Higurashi a few years back and while I very much enjoyed the story, it felt strange due to the fact that there were no (meaningful) choices that could be made.
I think those that doesn't have any choices (or just a little bit) are called kinetic novels. a good example is Planetarian, from Key
Visual Novels without any choices are known as Kinetic Visual novels
Narcissu mentioned! 🩵
Ace Attorney is my fav visual novel and I still have no clue what category it goes in
Can you recommend some modern dating sim visual novels? preferably if it's translated to english.
I often see them in anime so I'm a bit curious 🧐
@@DIASENREDS I wonder if Find Love or Die Trying is a dating sim or more exactly a visual novel? Because it's a bit different, due to spoiler plot reasons. But I liked how the plot is about a dating show.
Otherwise, I'm going to look into Senren * Banka to make sure. I have been playing Our Life: Beginnings & Always so it's got stats and a lot of loops to make the childhood friend angle work. Can be het too with changable pronouns.
I think technically odd games like Slay The Princess might have themes about love. And there's a disclaimer about it being a love story. But it's a visual novel that's also really detail heavy. Just not a stat raiser.
Or Monster Camp. That's a jaunty feeling kind of dating sim with the stats.
Doukyousei Banging Summer!
The latter suggestions by Heroman are more traditionally visual novel than Dating Sim game.
@@TheAugustHail Yeah. Thanks for the help, bro.
Umineko is absolutely Kamige.
school days is a masterpiece!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saya no uta mention for the win
School Days is a masterpiece but our world is not ready for it
REAL
I don't know how some can categorise it as Kusoge. It is an interactive anime series with an insanely wide branching plot. I can only guess how much effort was put into it to make it.
the best teacher for safe sex, just don't do what the characters did
Is there a list of every visual novel shown in this video? Interested in alot of them.
I Fav Visual Novel Galge,Nakige,Denpa,Kamige❤❤❤
CLASS OF 09 PEAK MENTIONED
Class of 09 is so kamige
Labeling School Days as a kusoge is very off.
It has extremely high production quality with full on animated scenes of a high visual fidelity and an enormous web of routes and alternate endings.
The people who claim its a kusoge simply do not like the story and the main character, you can dislike these things without calling it a bad visual novel when it is not.
I kinda wish they released the PS Vita version of Dramatical Murder in the west. It has no R18 content but the additional content adds some depth to the story. I know the full uncensored version is on Steam now but still, I wish they added the PS Vita content as DLC.
As someone who just recently finished Sakura, Moyu and seeing it here makes me happy, although it was just a glimpse. Definitely Kamige-tier.
Hashihime of the old book town mentioned!!!🎉❤ what the fuck is a mentally stable character!?🔥🔥
6:08 Is there a Shizuku translation patch? Last time I looked around I couldn't find one.
its honestly kinda sad how NTY has become the front of "bara" VNs, after all fat men are also a big part in bara media, if we go by popularity i wouldve put morenatsu but most truly bara VNs are either not localized or VERY unpopular
you should check out whispers of the luminaries. its in demo still but even the demo is quite good imo. I've never really played detective games but it really made me pay attention instead of just going through each item hoping it will work
Please help! Can someone tell me where 4:32 is from? ("I would never yearn...never curse") and 4:39 and 4:47? Heck, just tell me all the Utsuge ones haha! I'd honestly love recommendations for this genre right now, I need it~
It sucks that most of the really good guro vns remain untranslated. Maggot Baits was an experience I can never forget.
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muv luv- absolute peak
I have read at least of 46 visual novels out there and I swear that I never thought I need this video so bad. Although my read list is not as much as you do or as much as floatingtrash is, I am at least proud of the number of visual novels I have read. This just shows that the world of VN is really huge and I am here to become a student again. Despite that I have just finish my masters, I felt like this video really shows that you have the PhD in Visual Novels, and I am so glad that I follow this channel 😊(I am just a zako reader comparing to you 🤣)
Also can anyone tell me what is the name of this VN at 0:07 where there's two girls wearing blue clothes on the top? I have been searching for this VN but I don't even remember the name of this title please. Thanks in advance.
Haha, thanks, although there's plenty of people out there that know more than me.
The two girls are from Evenicle
@@TheAugustHail Thank you so much 👍
cute girls doing cute things is what we need for world peace
You forgot the courtroom battles
Hahaha I feel like "detective" point and click style games with visual novel elements are classified slightly differently.
@@behindyou9743 the amount of text in ace attorney definitely makes it count as a visual novel. Besides, there are a few other games that have done it as well, Attorney of the Arcane comes to mind.
@@theoriginalcatfish I get what you mean, I’ve played such games with amazing plot as well - not limited to the courtroom, but have a similar style of finding and presenting the right “evidence”. Perhaps it could be another sub-category of visual novels like you implied.
as a blge enthusiast, thanks for remembering about us lolol, guy creators often don't
also sweet pool is a kamige
Now even though I never played a visual novel or dating sim for that matter. Reading the story just intrigues me though.
8:22 NOIZ NOIZZ AAAFGGHHHJ
1:15 Hmm, attractive girls you say 🤔
Damn right, Asuka Minato best girl.
umineko on top ‼
nitro origin sounds like something ea would do
I'll never be the same after all Nitro+Chiral BL novels... Sweet Pool, Togainu no Chi, DmMd, Lamento, Slow Damage, they are just SOOOO good. Also, for everyone interested in genre, you should try "Beyond Eden", game from Korean studio i guess???
As for otome, "7's scarlet" is a very cool game. CrIed a LOT
0:07 evenicle mentioned now I can die happily
Gotta send this to friends so they can understand me GKFKF XD
Excellent explanations!! :D
This video is peak content
2:44 What is the name of that game? I really like the artstyle
Marshmallow All The Way Home!
@@TheAugustHail Thank you^^
there are also raising sims
FATA MORGANA MENTIONED‼️
Umineko is definitely kamige!!!!!
Rest in peace my beloved witch, Beatrice! ❤😭❤
MY GOAT ON THIS TREND AS WELL LETSS GOOO