How Doki Doki Literature Club! Was Made and Why The Creator Couldn’t Make Games Anymore

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    This Doki Doki Literature Club! documentary details the development of the visual novel indie game Doki Doki Literature Club! and goes behind the scenes of its creation. Discover more about its creator Dan Salvato and how he went from being a professional Super Smash Bros. Melee Link player to being a public face of an enormously popular brand overnight. Growing up, Dan watched a lot of anime, with a particular fondness for slice-of-life anime. His journey into visual novels began in college, starting with "Tsukihime", which left a lasting emotional impact on him. While Dan was busy working on his first visual novel, he got the idea for a very different visual novel concept. He eventually shared the idea with his friend Masha, who convinced Dan to develop it.
    The documentary also explores all the design decisions that Dan made and shows how he initially envisioned the characters with generic cookie-cutter personalities. However, as he delved into the writing process, he felt an unexpected urge to connect with them on a deeper level. It also takes a close look at all the hurdles Dan had to go through. From programmatically stitching together characters “halves” that resulted in a wide variety of characters sprites, to Dan creating the soundtrack himself in order to infuse the game with simple, catchy melodies and recurring motifs. Additionally, Dan had to manipulate the game’s engine with his own Python code since the engine was designed to prioritize player control, which is the opposite of what Dan was trying to achieve with Doki Doki Literature Club! Lastly, the documentary also takes a look at what’s next for Dan and if we’ll see more Doki Doki Literature Club! related content in the future.
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    0:00 Forming The Idea
    1:54 Who is Dan Salvato
    3:30 Ad
    4:46 Influences
    6:53 Developing the Story
    10:50 Character & Game Design
    17:05 Soundtrack
    18:09 Release & Recognition
    19:41 Reflecting on its Success
    23:00 Doki Doki Literature Club Plus!
    26:11 The Future
    Outro song: Thank You R.G.E. - Joe Bagale
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  • @ThatGuyGlen
    @ThatGuyGlen  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +142

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    • @me-ry9ee
      @me-ry9ee 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

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    • @arturliviu
      @arturliviu 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Can you do a deep dive on the epic battle fantasy series?

    • @ChimeraLotietheBunny
      @ChimeraLotietheBunny 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Woah

    • @TigerFlameAnimations42069
      @TigerFlameAnimations42069 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      silence brand

    • @thegothaunt
      @thegothaunt 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Just wanted to let you know that a deep dive into the development of Indika might make for a great video. Likely would be fascinating research/interviews and the visual and game elements in the game would probably be so fun to bounce off of for the "look" of your video. The subject matter of the game is a bit dark though but I found the game super impressive and immediately impressionable upon finishing.

  • @NepstationYoutubeChannel
    @NepstationYoutubeChannel 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2478

    I played through 'Doki Doki' several times and I've never once felt like the creator hated VN's. In fact I felt like he loved them.

    • @crazayhazay
      @crazayhazay 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      same

    • @Rzepik
      @Rzepik 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

      I would say there was some love/hate relationship going on.

    • @aokyoutsuki7744
      @aokyoutsuki7744 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +79

      You know, some people cant bother digging deeper than surface level, and especially those who arent even in the niche, you see this alot

    • @dextersynesterformerlysorb5334
      @dextersynesterformerlysorb5334 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@aokyoutsuki7744 some of the greatest pieces of meta fiction are written by people that, if you see how they're playing with themes and archetypes, clearly hate either the genre or the fans that they're writing for, maybe even both. DDLCis a prime example of this, as are Danganronpa, Attack on Titan and Pathologic. those are the ones that i know of. i'm sure there are plenty more.

    • @yourassistant981
      @yourassistant981 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@aokyoutsuki7744 I saw a remix of the tsukihime theme on his main channel in fact its still there. Its called Tohno Lyfe

  • @KeithTheDinosaurBoyVA
    @KeithTheDinosaurBoyVA 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4017

    I'm SO glad that people are starting to recognize that DDLC ISN'T a completely spiteful satire of visual novels and Dan Salvato made the game out of a love for what the genre can accomplish. I'm especially happy that you mentioned Tsukihime by name, since fighting games (namely Melty Blood) led him to Tsukihime and VNs in general. He's even read through Fate/Stay Night (which is more than I can say for some Fate fans tbh) and Witch on the Holy Night. Too often, I see people say that Dan was just an FGC player who hated VNs and made Doki Doki Literature Club out of hate for the medium rather than him wanting to use the genre for genuine storytelling like he experienced with Tsukihime. He also thinks Akiha is best girl, which...I can respect.

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +217

      I tried to do my due diligence! Dan seems like a really cool and kindhearted person.

    • @bornanime3255
      @bornanime3255 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +256

      The sentiment that satire always comes from a place of hate and lack of understanding is wrong in and of itself.
      To properly deconstruct, pull apart, criticise, analyse and push a work in new ways requires someone with a firm understanding on its tropes, strengths and weaknesses. That can't come from a place without some passion and love. It takes a big fan to be able to understand something so well as to make a good satire of it.

    • @iamLI3
      @iamLI3 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +74

      that's how i've always seen it from the start , i didn't even know there were ppl who though ddlc is spiteful....

    • @spiritwildfiregaming1975
      @spiritwildfiregaming1975 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

      @@iamLI3 Given that the message of the game from what I remember was "people are allowed to like things no matter the genre" I am more so confused as to how these people even got to that conclusion to begin with.

    • @CheesecakeMilitia
      @CheesecakeMilitia 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      IDK, the writing of DDLC felt kinda condescending - like "making fun" of these underage waifus and their effusive infatuation with the main character while playing all the anime tropes completely straight. It came across to me as lazy parody and overall mean spirited (especially considering the psychological horror plotline undermines a lot of character motivations and mental health issues explored in the first act, which makes the shock factor of those moments feel exploitative).
      This was the first time I'd heard of Salvato's deeper love for the genre, and it honestly surprises me to hear him be so genuine. The game read to me at the time like a confession from a self-hating weeb.

  • @Forcommentingpurposes
    @Forcommentingpurposes 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +954

    The sprite system is INSANE like that’s truly next level and I’m gonna need to use it for my own game

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +150

      It was a lifesaver for Dan so implementing it for your own project seems like the right move!

    • @thornordgren2239
      @thornordgren2239 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      isn't that how most games do sprites?

    • @TrueHDR
      @TrueHDR 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      whats ur game about?

  • @noisykestrel
    @noisykestrel 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1872

    Monika is just the normal way of spelling the Name here in Germany, so I am surprised to learn it has an element of parody/satire in it for native English speakers :D

    • @MichaMielcarek
      @MichaMielcarek 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +81

      Same in Poland

    • @Ratryoshka
      @Ratryoshka 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      Same in Indonesia

    • @pemanilnoob587
      @pemanilnoob587 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +77

      I always thought it was the normal spelling because of ddlc

    • @stitchgor3
      @stitchgor3 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

      Wait I’m native English and from England I thought Monika was correct😭

    • @Nova-nr3gi
      @Nova-nr3gi 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      I am your regular American but I only know Monikas, not Monicas. Maybe it’s just me.

  • @IHATEFLORIDAALOT
    @IHATEFLORIDAALOT 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +775

    I didnt know that people thought it was a cynical parody of visual novels or something. I when I heard about it it came across to me like a neat visual novel with a cool horror twist

    • @orangejuice782
      @orangejuice782 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +71

      i wonder if part of why people falsely claimed it as one was because they themselves hated visual novels and wanted to stand out, be the cool kids who like the Cool Mean Satire and not that "mushy bullcrap with no substance".
      most people who arent familiar with the visual novel genre often see it as a "lesser" kind of video game compared to FPSes or RPGs, especially considering most VNs (that westerners hear about, at least) are seemingly cutesy love stories, and liking something "lesser" is seen as Loser Activity(tm). the veil of satire, even if not applicable at all here, protects them from having earnestly engaged with something they think will make them look lame.
      some also call DDLC a subversion of the genre, and while i agree it does do some very unique things (like the gamefiles being a thing you HAVE to mess with to complete the story), there are tons of visual novels that tackle dark and depressing subjects, even moreso than DDLC, but they just aren't translated to other languages too often or are very small indie projects that don't hit it as big. the youtube channel Amelie Doree discusses many games like this, so if anyone reading this comment had their interest piqued by the concept of MORE VNs about messed up things, please give her videos a try!

    • @Weremole
      @Weremole 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      There's been so many kinds of adventure / visual novels through history and DDLC is far from the first meta horror one.

    • @animebro14
      @animebro14 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ​@Weremole i agree. It's just that DDLC ended up going mainstream. Fun fact: Dan Salvato became aware of totono halfway through ddlc's development

    • @animebro14
      @animebro14 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Those same people when on to hate the side stories for not being scary

  • @level3xfactor
    @level3xfactor 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +171

    Hi! I wrote the interview with Dan from PC Invasion that was used as a reference! I loved DDLC after I played it so much when I emailed Dan for the interview I didn’t think he’d respond. But he was super easy to talk to and a genuinely nice guy. I’m glad to see people are still talking about and loving this amazing game!

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      Awesome, that was a great interview! Lots of valuable details from that one that ended up in the video. Dan really seems like a good guy so I'm glad to hear you had a great experience with him!

  • @Cr_nch
    @Cr_nch 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +375

    12:31 I love the little dialogue boxes here they just add so much flair to the video!

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

      It was really fun to work with DDLC’s style and look!

  • @TyperMarlinGames
    @TyperMarlinGames 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +418

    I love how the title has slowly gotten more and more true over time.
    “How DDLC was made and why it made the creator miserable”
    “How DDLC was made and why its release made the creator miserable”
    “How DDLC was made and why its release caused misery”

    • @pontus_011
      @pontus_011 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +102

      "How Doki Doki Literature Club! Was Made and Why it Will Never be Adapted" atm lol

    • @FlantisFroggu
      @FlantisFroggu 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@pontus_011that's the best one imo

    • @sayorispacebunz
      @sayorispacebunz 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      DDLC never caused misery it might be adapted just gottta wait till how ddlc was made and why it made the world insane

    • @SofieArts
      @SofieArts 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

      Why does it change so much lol
      Now it's "Inside the Mind of Dan Salvato: How Doki Doki Literature Club! Was Made"

    • @pontus_011
      @pontus_011 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @SofieArts now its something new entirely lmao i have no idea why

  • @buffynatorofficial
    @buffynatorofficial 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +352

    Just Monika...Just Monika...Just Monika...Just Monika...Just Monika...Just Monika

    • @Wertyber
      @Wertyber 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I'm so glad you're joining the literature club

    • @guesty6128
      @guesty6128 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dont let sayori cosplay herself

    • @lukethekuya
      @lukethekuya 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mindbroken

    • @mmyr8ado.360
      @mmyr8ado.360 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hej hej Monika, hej på dig Monika

  • @_valplaysgames
    @_valplaysgames 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +208

    i played this game for the first time earlier this year! thought it was fascinating as hell lol. love all the little details that were worked in, like how monika is the only character who doesn’t break eye contact with the player throughout the game

  • @arnavkamble7144
    @arnavkamble7144 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +639

    There are two types of comments
    >Detailed analysis of the video/facts
    >Smash

    • @Nameless-ny8nk
      @Nameless-ny8nk 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

      >Just Monika

    • @AlexAlex-bt8nd
      @AlexAlex-bt8nd 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Smash

    • @HyperNova808
      @HyperNova808 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Nameless-ny8nk*Celeste
      D-Sides ptsd*

    • @simplybrandish
      @simplybrandish 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I'm not seeing any "Smash" comments. Maybe ThatGuyGlen is deleting them or something. unless you're refering to Project M.

    • @CloverSalad
      @CloverSalad 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      smash

  • @Fantasygod930
    @Fantasygod930 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +98

    I never thought this game was made by a Competitive pro smash player That's kind of funny to me

  • @FaLumpaGus907
    @FaLumpaGus907 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +197

    Went to go subscribe after watching. Was already subbed.. thought to myself "I got good taste"

    • @rototype786
      @rototype786 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Same lmao

  • @zaden9009
    @zaden9009 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +116

    Kind of surprised about this.
    I adore the game, and I still carry around the Literature Club card (that you get for preordering) on my wallet.
    Hope to see more of his work in the future.

  • @pimikameaw
    @pimikameaw 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

    This is so interesting! I always love to explore the different concept arts, scrapped ideas, development challenges of various medias.
    And while i knew most about DDLC, i had no idea Dan turned down the idea of adapting the story into, what could've been a very successful manga, just to stay truthful to his beliefs
    Wishing him all the best to his new projects moving forward!
    And subbing to you in the meantime ^-^

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Always awesome to see a fellow creator in the comments :D Glad I was able to showcase something new about its development!

  • @bella_daze3092
    @bella_daze3092 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +69

    Doki Doki Literature Club became one of my favorite games because of how it was different. It’s something made with love and had an impact on me.

  • @IamDaveDev
    @IamDaveDev 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +67

    DDLC is one of my favorite games, and likely my favorite horror game (though I love FNAF too). I’m so glad you made a video on it!

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It's been on my list for a while so I'm glad I finally got around to it!

  • @adriangd5040
    @adriangd5040 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    10:43 one moment i like that shows this and monika breaking the 4th wall is when natsuki makes a pun with fish (at least i think (forgive me it’s been so long since i’ve played this game)) and monika’s name which would only make sense in japanese, and monika points that out

  • @simplybrandish
    @simplybrandish 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    I am so happy you made a video about the development process of Doki Doki Literature Club! since it doesn't seem like a lot of people acknowledge Team Salvato's amazing efforts and dedication (or should I say passion?) into making an innocent looking horror game that makes you feel like you're really a part of the experience/the in-game universe. Especially in a visual novel style which (successful) horror games never use/used. Every action feels like you're contributing to another character's demise with every option seeming like the wrong one. This video made me want to re-play DDLC again and I'm glad I did! I finished it in one session and I am currently writing this after I did. Thanks for uploading this great video and thanks for reminding me of this game's existence.

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My pleasure, glad to hear you enjoyed the video!

  • @chastomber
    @chastomber 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +80

    Babe wake up, glen just posted another banger

  • @minah8292
    @minah8292 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

    I love your videos! As a creator, learning about the development of these projects is very inspiring. I always watch your videos, even if I haven't heard of the game before. You've actually introduced me to some of my favorites! Keep it up!

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Awesome to hear that! I’m glad to hear you’re discovering more games, there’s so many more I want to cover!

  • @-LightSmit
    @-LightSmit 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    I’m making a Japanese learning game on my channel, and as a guy married in Japan with 3 kids (for more than 10 years), I’ve never played a visual novel game.
    I’m just not into anime girls, and the sounds they make. Death Note, Code Guess and Baki are my favorites, but with games, probably survival RPGs.
    Thanks for the amazing videos Glen. Light

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      My pleasure, glad to hear you enjoy them!

  • @witchecheveria9417
    @witchecheveria9417 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    loved this breakdown! ddlc is one of my favorite games, i replay it at least once a year. i remember the absolute chills i got at the major turning point. thank you for the reminder, i should replay it again :D

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad to hear you enjoyed it!

  • @Nextliar
    @Nextliar 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    You miss the fact that the plotwist of doki doki of Monika is the same of the visual novel "YOU and ME and HER: A Love Story" (Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi) what comes in japan in 2013.

    • @slowyourroll1146
      @slowyourroll1146 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      "I'm talking to YOU."

    • @teikazami3170
      @teikazami3170 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Okay? it's not that unique of an idea.

  • @Miltypooh2001
    @Miltypooh2001 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What I love about doki doki literature club is the ending you get after finishing the game and you get a small note from dan salvato, its so heartwarming and you can tell that he loved the game and wanted people to enjoy it and be comfortable with playing games.

  • @mySDK3333
    @mySDK3333 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    Thanks for sharing
    A bit of nitpicking:
    - Yume Nikki, "me" is pronounced similar to "may".
    - 6:13 Inscryption was launched after Dokidoki.

  • @P-P-Panda
    @P-P-Panda 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Can never get enough of your vids. They really inspire me and I listen often when trying to make ideas for my own indie projects. Especially listening to Ddlc as a visual novel maker myself and trying to learn Renpy.

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad to hear they serve as inspiration for you! And good luck with your indie projects!

  • @CanonicalKaoru
    @CanonicalKaoru 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    I love the extra editing in this one!!

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Glad to hear you enjoyed it! I love the game’s rich branding, so many bright colors and other elements to play with. I had a lot of fun making it :D

  • @urphakeandgey6308
    @urphakeandgey6308 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    It's rare anyone goes through the effort to make something good just to say "look at how crappy it is." Even if Dan didn't love VNs as much as he seems to, it would clearly be coming from a place of appreciation and criticism. Again, no one is going to put that much effort into something they genuinely don't like. There's clearly some kind of passion.

  • @bupp291
    @bupp291 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Such incredible production quality! As always! Great job!

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Much appreciated, glad to hear you enjoyed the video!

  • @RickySama240
    @RickySama240 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Time really flies by... I remember how popular this game was back in 2018 with the amount of people telling their own stories about how this game impacted their psyche. It is one of the most unique psychological horror games out there! 😇

  • @elone3997
    @elone3997 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Great video, thanks again. Love the mix of content you create and keeps it reaaly fresh ☺️ The creator really came across as such a grounded, thoughtful guy and the fact he chose to not sell out big makes me respect him more. Cheers Glen..

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My pleasure, thank you for the kind words! And yup, Dan seems like a very level headed and kind person, can’t wait to see what he does next!

  • @SLAVKINGRED
    @SLAVKINGRED 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    i believe that ddlc could be adapted into a animated tv show like seiren with the same story over and over but with a different heroin

  • @cameronsmusic4322
    @cameronsmusic4322 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Always love your content so much, thank you for continuing to work so hard on these

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My pleasure, I love making them!

  • @mikuenjoyerXD
    @mikuenjoyerXD 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I'm still obsessed with this game

  • @alternetic3833
    @alternetic3833 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Glen out here making one of the best internet culture documentation out here, amazing work

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Much appreciated!

  • @Explanda1
    @Explanda1 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Love your content, hope you keep it up

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad to hear you enjoy it!

  • @elichi5259
    @elichi5259 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hi! i just wanted to say i really enjoy your videos; i absolutely love hearing about the history, influences, and development process behind specific video games. i really appreciate how well researched and concise these videos are; i haven't been interested in longer form content recently but your videos always manage to keep me interested. keep it going!!!

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you very much for the kind words, comments like yours keep me motivated!

  • @usernameig975
    @usernameig975 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. Very informative and thoroughly enjoyable. Made me recall the olden days when I consumed fanmade DDLC content on a daily basis.

  • @thegothaunt
    @thegothaunt 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Amazing! You take such care to match all your video elements to the game you're covering and it adds so much to each video and also makes your content very iconic!

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      My pleasure, thank you for all the kind words! I’m glad people appreciate that aspect of my videos, it takes a lot of work each time but it keeps things interesting for myself and I love making each and every one of them!

  • @mikuenjoyerXD
    @mikuenjoyerXD 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    Random but I feel like a ddlc, omori and Danganronpa are the three pillars of the mentally ill fandom

    • @CU9_
      @CU9_ 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      You can describe each of those 3 games just by: depression, depression (and is also gay), and depression (but could be a murderer)

    • @mikuenjoyerXD
      @mikuenjoyerXD 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I would also like to add class of 09

    • @some_guy117
      @some_guy117 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@mikuenjoyerXDI wouldn’t say that game is about mental illness. Just a game about shitty high school kids being terrible people, and everyone around is just as terrible

    • @person-fl8dk
      @person-fl8dk 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      guess i'm mentally ill then

  • @jwswart
    @jwswart 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for this informative and entertaining video. i did not know 75% of the things you talked about, and i thought i knew all there was to know about DDLC / Dan. Thank you!

  • @DumDoDoor
    @DumDoDoor 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Love the video, but don't like the title. It's sort of "clickbait". Yes he felt he couldn't work on another project that's not DDLC but he's been getting around to that as you shown.

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's why I use "Couldn't" in the title instead of "Can't". It's true that there was a time in his life shortly after the release of DDLC that he was unable to dedicate time towards game development so I don't see how that's clickbait.

    • @saebelorn
      @saebelorn 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ThatGuyGlen adverb: anymore
      to any further extent; any longer.
      "she refused to listen any more"

  • @thisrandomdude2846
    @thisrandomdude2846 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you so much for making a video on this game!! Banger as always hahahahah, freaking love learning more about the behind the scenes of these really cool pieces of media, some of which are my favourites of all time, and yet something that I haven't given much thought to them for each one :P so it's always surprising somehow
    Edit: some feedback about the title, I kinda think the one where it said "and why it will never be adapted" was the most interesting and captivating, but you probably have the back-end insights about whether that's true for wider audiences or not hahahahah

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My pleasure, I'm just happy to hear you enjoy the content! :D

  • @held2053
    @held2053 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think this video did quite boost my confidence regarding game development

  • @ChimeraLotietheBunny
    @ChimeraLotietheBunny 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always love content around DDLC and any sort of indie game creations that inspire them

  • @KaiserV-2
    @KaiserV-2 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I really wonder if he's making a second game like he tease before. Its been along time so it must be huge. I hope it's good, if it is being made.

  • @gamerofgamers1417
    @gamerofgamers1417 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video. I do feel like the title was a bit clickbait though since there's nothing in the video stating that Dan doesn't want to make games anymore.

  • @yoqqen
    @yoqqen 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I share these videos with all my boys, they’re so good and high quality. Seriously think this channel could snowball its way to 1 million subs with enough time. Definitely deserves it

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Much appreciated for sharing the video around, you have no idea how much that helps the channel! And thank you for the kind words!

  • @firenetlordfire3838
    @firenetlordfire3838 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Fingers cross, let's hope this video will hit the algorithm!

  • @fildorian6867
    @fildorian6867 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for the information... I was really looking to get some insight into the things surrounding it, as well as the thoughts of Dan, after playing this game

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My pleasure!

  • @ScoundrelChestnut
    @ScoundrelChestnut 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    i have only discovered some people disdain for DDLC few months ago and their arguments were vague and wasn't backed up with anything.

  • @sakareeh
    @sakareeh 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    15:26 holy shit that’s so simple yet innovative. Also this video was so informative and well edited. Subbed

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad to hear you liked it and thank you for subscribing!

  • @hundredLeech
    @hundredLeech 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Definitely did not expect to see "Executive Producers: LSplash" in the credits

  • @hjghjgjhhjkhklk2683
    @hjghjgjhhjkhklk2683 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The title keeps changingg

  • @JAPANESE_MAPLE
    @JAPANESE_MAPLE 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    thanks for the video glen now iam happy

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My pleasure!

    • @LambdaHL113
      @LambdaHL113 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "Mikaeli, you succesfully hit metal 17 times"

  • @ilhama3214
    @ilhama3214 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    @ThatGuyGlen please do cover Fishing Paradiso next,i'm interested to see how this hidden gem of a game got it's inspiration from!

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll look into that one!

  • @-Norko-
    @-Norko- 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    please don't don't tell me the sponsor uses AI art

    • @avinoired
      @avinoired 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      pretty sure it does :(

    • @maki_rommi
      @maki_rommi 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ?

  • @liljagey
    @liljagey 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Did you do pizza tower. Love your videos I’m working on a game right now.

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Glad to hear you enjoy them! I haven’t covered Pizza Tower yet.

  • @crazayhazay
    @crazayhazay 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    i’ve been inlove with ddlc ever since the year after its release, this video is so informative and i love it, its so well made too

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad to hear you enjoyed it!

  • @kirabey8946
    @kirabey8946 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Banger vid as always Glen! (I haven't watched it yet)

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Hope you enjoy it! ;)

  • @kagaya-samastories2005
    @kagaya-samastories2005 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I really like DDLC but I think that it couldve been scarier if the CGs for the hororr scenes didnt exist and instead you only had text explain the scene. When you see the CG it always felt like the scene was always supposed ti exist while having an explainaiton of the scene while sething else is being shown makesnit feel like somebody is manipulating the game for their own goal.
    It would look like the game is supposed to be normal but somebody else is editing it for an unknown reason. To me its like Monika was editing the story to have the girls kill themselves but she somewhat loses her pacience and causes a few problems during the suicide of Sayori andnjust stops putting effort in her work. Which leads to the next scenes lacking polish (like the room where we talk with Monika in the end is a pre-existing background with the second layer changed with another image.

  • @Illumous
    @Illumous 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I got this game day one by happenstance not realizing what kind of game it actually was. Ill say I was completely caught off guard half-way through... but I loved it!!!!

  • @OukenTokenBroken
    @OukenTokenBroken 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Got into ddlc late last year and it's carried with me since - man this game is one of my favorites. Yeah, I liked it back in 2017 but I was much younger and def wouldn't have grasped many themes

  • @JermTheWerm123
    @JermTheWerm123 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very good video about the history of my favorite horror game!

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks, glad to hear you enjoyed it!

  • @LynxTheUnrelated
    @LynxTheUnrelated 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Has this video changed it's thumbnail like 4 times or is my memory actually bad enough that I forget what the thumbnail to this video looks like every time i see it?

    • @quandale.dingle69
      @quandale.dingle69 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ur not alone

    • @picklws7225
      @picklws7225 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nah it changed again

    • @simplybrandish
      @simplybrandish 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The title has changed so many times too.

  • @imjinaah
    @imjinaah 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    new upload yey! 😄

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hope you enjoy it :D

  • @greenhydra10
    @greenhydra10 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    22:27 Of course Omocat was in on this. I shouldn't even be surprised.

  • @thatitalianlameguy2235
    @thatitalianlameguy2235 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Did not expect him to be a fan and of akiha of all girls. That's because ddlc is kinda shallow and there's a much better vn with the same concepts, You and me and her a love story (totono). His idea of vns always being chained to certain tropes reads like someone who only read the popular ones and stopped there because the genre is absolutely insane and full of unique ground breaking shit with trope breaking. It's just frequently not for the faint of heart in its subjects.

  • @Hugo-mv8se
    @Hugo-mv8se 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good work as usual keep up the good work !
    I don't know why the youtube algorithm has been mean to that video tho

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you, will do!

  • @UnknownFlyingPancake
    @UnknownFlyingPancake 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've always gotten the impression that it was made to try to subvert what people think most visual novels are rather than what they actually were. The idea of creating a horror visual novel that explores dark themes isn't revolutionary in the slightest, in fact it's more common than anything. It's common for visual novels to get into dark and uncomfortable subjects that most other genres - including media that deliberately set out to be edgy - are unwilling to touch. So honestly it really confuses me that he set out to be subversive just because of the horror or dark themes. It feels like it's parodying the typical misconception of what visual novels are by those who don't play them, rather than parodying actual visual novels themselves.
    It's really the methods used to break the 4th wall that makes it unique as it does well in using the format of being a video game to its advantage. A horror visual novel alone isn't anything special, but a visual novel that tells its story in the way that DDLC does is. The impressive part about it is really that it pulls that off well. Hearing about the effort put into the character portraits is also impressive.

  • @abby2577
    @abby2577 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    nice to see the stanley parable and inscryption mentioned as some other good 4th wall breaking games :)

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      One of my personal favorites!

  • @wasabi5134
    @wasabi5134 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    OHMYGODDOKIDOKI
    HE FINALLY DID IT :D
    I love this channel sm

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m glad it’s finally out :D

  • @colorfulsheepp
    @colorfulsheepp 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Your videos are the best bro im telling you

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Much appreciated!

  • @bekowetypki8509
    @bekowetypki8509 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really love ddlc, when it was first released in 2017, i watched the gameplay, but i couldn't bring myself to play the game, when i installed i just couldn't play because i knew what will happen. I bought ddlc+, and it's heartbreaking reading all these stories and knowing that Monika deleted her friends that she truly loved after all of these experiences and made all of their bad characteristics show off, she told sayori to off herself, and made the depression more tense, made Yuri's uncotrolled outbursts and weird interests more weirder, and they all became what they hate. Monika had to live no one knows how much knowing nothing is real and that everything is a lie and her friends are scripted, she just went insane and reggreted ever doing anything to her friends. This game left a huge mark on me, i love it.

  • @Enderlinkpawnu
    @Enderlinkpawnu 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I played DDLC a while ago, and while I am not much a Visual Novel player, I can tell he put a lot of time and effort into it. Like despite what happens in that game definately being out of the norm, man had an idea and he stuck it through, not out of spite, but because he thought it would be a cool idea for a visual novel.

  • @317GUY
    @317GUY 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I suggest a game for you to do a video on?
    I think you should do a video about one of the video games that changed my life!
    Lisa the painful.

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's on my list ;)

  • @Gidiotic
    @Gidiotic 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Can you do a video on all the indie game devs that goes by the name Dan/Daniel etc.? I swear I heard quite a few Dans from similar type of videos, someone tell me I'm not tripping. 😂

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Haha it seems that way, doesn’t it :D

  • @N_4747
    @N_4747 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    glen will you make a video about Hexages games like Flying Tank or REDCON

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I’ll look into those!

  • @lyu7ik
    @lyu7ik 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    very interesting choice to make documentaries about creative work and promote something with ai art??

  • @joseluispcr
    @joseluispcr 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    lot of time has passed since the launch of this huh?

  • @blar2112
    @blar2112 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is the only visual novel i ever played and probably will (if VA-11 Hall-A does not count) and i loved it. If Salvato makes another visual novel i will seriously consider playing it.

  • @nixiepixie9557
    @nixiepixie9557 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    does anybody know what character creator he used to begin with??? i swear i’ve seen it before in an rpg maker game 😭

  • @gaminggoof1542
    @gaminggoof1542 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As someone who LOVES this game and mainly it’s 4 girls as a realistic portrayal of various depression types, I’d love to see them one day create Libitina which they teased back with the original release.

  • @spongebear
    @spongebear 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    i prefer the old thumbnail 🥺🙏🏻

  • @Scout-Stuff
    @Scout-Stuff 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yoo you’re at 199k subs!

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yup, never thought the channel would grow like this, it’s pretty crazy!

  • @BunnyUmi
    @BunnyUmi 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Does anybody know which character maker they used for the placeholder sprites?

  • @omegahaxors3306
    @omegahaxors3306 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Fun fact: This game is called Super Mario USA in Japan.

  • @Rullisi
    @Rullisi 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What a satisfying success of a game development.

  • @animebro14
    @animebro14 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not only is MC just as much of a Doki as everyone else is and deserves to be seen as such, he's also arguably more of a tortured soul than Monika is. Monika realizes she is all alone in a world she shouldn't be in, one that's fake. She created MC (presumably alongside Ive Laster using beta elements) to help her communicate with the world she longs for. But MC? He was effectively born to be a tool. Literally, you could apply so much genuinely harmful rhetoric to MC because he really does fulfill it. He has a personality, goals, ambitions, his own level of intellect, and yet he's nothing more than a puppet. A puppet, which, mind you, has really done nothing wrong and yet can never be allowed to be happy. Pursue Monika? Even if he doesn't know it, that's >!incest!

    • @thatitalianlameguy2235
      @thatitalianlameguy2235 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Read totono it's the superior vb came out earlier than ddlc and did the concept much better yet dan claims he wasn't inspired by it

    • @animebro14
      @animebro14 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I heard about totono. From what I heard, Dan became aware of totono halfway through ddlc's development

  • @BriariusTitan
    @BriariusTitan 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm a simple man, i see a ThatGuyGlen video and I click.

  • @AEli5002
    @AEli5002 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Even though I would love to read a official DDLC monga I'm fine with DDLC+ being all we get
    It already has everything we could ask for and what Dan was passionate about and besides I don't see how you could make a sequel lead alone an adaptation not saying it's impossible but I think DDLC+ is good enough and I think Dan wants it to be the close of that series and it's likely he wants to work on other projects that aren't DDLC related
    All I can say is, Dan's wishes are what matters and it's good enough for me

  • @KitGreen-dn3xx
    @KitGreen-dn3xx 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I Do Wish This Gets a Resurgence in Popularity and More Mainstream and Hopefully a Sequel to it!

  • @chris960426
    @chris960426 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This was mi first visua novel and was and amazing experience love t know ho was create

  • @thekirstenempire
    @thekirstenempire 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    DDLC is honestly a love letter to visual novels, not a satire of it (well, atleast not completely?) Tbh I think that’s why it’s stayed so relevant, because if it were just a satire it wouldnt have been as good.

  • @lucaslourenco8918
    @lucaslourenco8918 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very good video, the editing was so good with all the visual references to DDLC style!
    think it's a game that simple could never be adapted int other forms of media, not just because of the interactions on how you influence the story, but exactly because you, the player, expect to be influencing the outcome of the story, and then find yourself in a fight for control against Monika, who tries and takes this control from you. It's unexpected because it subverts not only the tropes of the genre, but also of video games in general. The best a TV anime could do would be include lots of brakes of the 4th wall, but since the spectator doesn't have control over the story, that wouldn't have the same impact.

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Much appreciated, glad to hear you enjoyed it!

  • @Lummox874
    @Lummox874 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I wanna see Monika as a dead by Daylight killer, the possibilities are endless :)
    Unrelated
    This game is quite sharp
    The storyline is quite snappy
    The characters are too die for
    Dammit I’m making hitman jokes again

    • @ThatGuyGlen
      @ThatGuyGlen  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That would be very interesting to see!

  • @lukethekuya
    @lukethekuya 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can't wait for Project Libitina 🙏

  • @demispectra9783
    @demispectra9783 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    11:25
    As a Polish person, that is a REALLY common name here and it IS written like that dksgalda

    • @HiHi-tc9rc
      @HiHi-tc9rc 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same here in Germany, there’s a theory that everybody at one point had an aunt named Monika