28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag Review & Comparison
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In this video, I conduct a detailed comparison of the 28 Nosler and 300 Win Mag cartridges.
I think most hunters would agree that the 300 Winchester Magnum and 28 Nosler both fantastic cartridges for certain situations. However, while there is definitely some overlap in their capabilities, there are some major differences between the 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag cartridges you should be aware of.
Unfortunately, as is the case with many things involving somewhat high octane, new cartridges like the 28 Nosler, there’s a lot of misinformation and marketing hype out there regarding the capabilities of the new caliber. For this reason, while they’re both among the best cartridges for hunting many species of game these days, it’s really easy to get confused when trying to understand the actual strengths and weaknesses of that cartridge compared to more established centerfire rifle cartridges like the 300 Winchester Magnum.
In this episode, I discuss the strengths and weaknesses of the 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag in order to give you the information necessary to choose the right one for your needs.
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Hello John and thank you for all of this really fantastic data and the aspects and considerations with the 28 Nosler. I do not have any chance of hunting elk or larger. My 270 takes my Texas deer or axis deer every year and both of these cartridges are just too much. But I am planning an ELR build chambered in 28 Nosler and this was immensely helpful information to me. Thank you for your time, effort, and expense in all of these terrific videos you present. I find it all extremely educational.
Thanks for your comment. Glad you enjoy my work!
I'll stick with my 300 win mag.. great side by side video..
Thanks!
I love the 300 win mag I have one my self 💪💪🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Ill take the 300WM with my 200gr AB @ 2950 - 3000ft Sec any day of the week. If i want better BC's ill get some 190 ABLR but i dont see the point.
All of your videos are SO DETAILED!
Glad you like them!
I have both and my go to for expensive and long wait tag hunts is the 28 nosler with 195 Berger EOL. I can push them a hair over 3000 fps with a 24” barrel and they are extremely bad medicine for big 4 legged critters out to 800+ yards. I don’t advocate for taking those long shots but for hunts that take years to accumulate enough points for a tag, I want every tool available to take that 400 bull if i get a chance.
Sounds like mine. 3010fps with the 195 EOL. Bull tag coming up on October 1st here in Idaho.
Really enjoying your informative content. I've hunted red deer here in the UK, wild boar in Europe and plains game in Africa with my 300WM. With a suppressor the recoil is really not a problem and I've found it a fantastic cartridge. Using 180g Barnes home loads I've shot a lot of plains game up to kudu and eland. I even shot a duiker with it. The bullet caused pretty minimal damage on the cape and killed the animal instantly. I've never felt under gunned with it or worried about it's capability at range (although I rarely take shots past 250 metres). On smaller deer in the UK I use a 243 or 7x57 as the ol' 300 is probably a bit much for them! Keep up the great work!
Thanks! I've had similar results with a suppressor and it really makes cartridges like the 300 WM a lot more pleasant to shoot.
I have both. I purchased a 28 Nosler last year and I'm working on load development now. I was recently able to procure some RL33 which is one of the best powders to load for the 28 Nosler.
Hunted with 30-06 in western desert / mountains all my life with no issues. Most opportunities are at min 250 to 400+ yards and some years ago I decided after reading impressive articles on 7mm Remington Magnum that I really needed one. However after experiencing the recoil shooting prone I changed my mind. It wasn't for me. In my personal experience the 160g 7mm made the 180g 30-06 feel like a 30-30 carbine. I don't feel limited at those ranges with the 30-06. I would suggest if possible try before you buy. Especially if stepping up your cartridge from what your used to.
I had a weak moment and brought home a Savage Ultralight in 28 Nosler. Blueprinted action with 24in Carbon Fiber barrel. I'm having buyers remorse, yet am very attracted to the rifle. I see it as a do lots one gun. Light enough for mountain hunting, yet still short enough for black timber. I think 30 caliber is better on large game, but the 100 rounds of Nosler 175s purchased, sure look sweet. I also own a 300 RUM, 300 Weatherby, 338 Win Mag and 375 Ruger. My goal is to pare these down. Wanting a mountain rifle and one for longer shots at elk and black bear in lower elevations, the Savage 28 Nosler fits nicely, while for things that can bite back, the 375 Ruger fits the bill. Both have some overlap and seem a good pair. On the other hand my Remington 700 in 300 Weatherby covers lots of ground. Most of my rifles are semi-customized hunting rifles and not Sniping rifles, although the 26in 300 RUM comes close. I fret over function, barrel length and stainless vs blued. I do have too much overlap, including 2 300 Win Mags and why I should let some go. I can only hunt with one at a time, so how does one choose from a safe full of fine weapons!? Recoil is a non-issue for me and I do not use brakes! But I love them all and eventually will shed some tears, as I send some to new homes!
"Recoil is a non issue and I do not use brakes!" Love this, more hunters need to apply practice and patience on proper shooting to master recoil, nothing like a flat and fast Magnum for delivery at a distance
Nicely done. Great channel with the subject always presented well. Thank you
Glad you liked it!
28 Nosler 180gr VLD Red Stag 430 yards. Great video John really enjoyed it. Love my Mesa 28 Nosler
Right on! How'd that Berger perform on your stag?
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog one and done. I really like the Berger VLD. I've used them on my 6.5 PRC and had a good outcome. This time as well
Good deal!
28 Nosler rifles are expensive and 28 Nosler ammo is expensive. The 300 Weatherby can be had in the inexpensive Weatherby Vanguard rifle for less than 600 bucks the ammo can be bought for as low as 60 dollars. 165 gr goes over 3,300 fps mv. The 180 gr goes over 3200 fps mv. 28 Nosler will cost more money and is uncommon.
WEATHERBY! WEATHERBY! WEATHERBY! Ol Roy's creations are still whoopin ass including most of the new stuff
You talked about the early days of magnums and not a word about Mr.Weatherby??? He designed the 300 Wby in 1944. By 1959 he developed the 30-378 Wby and that has been the king of factory 30's since it went into production
Took a elk with 300wm at 550 yards this last season with a bergara b14 hunter.
Excellent FULL Presentation of all known info with logical rationales according to external considerations.Really I must commend this comparison for it's completeness. I subscribed and look forward to further shows . This LEVEL of analysis is outstanding, allowing for a confident understanding . Thanks
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it!
As a Europian hunter i would like milder option for 28 Nosler in same bullet size. And it is 7 x 57 Mauser in 175grain nosler bullet but milder recoil .There are plenty of factory loads in different brands.Many made in Usa. And it is much better than 308 Win for deer size game. And barrels last longer than 28 Nosler. You loose little in trajector but it is so little i think and you can bild nicer rifle with that.
I hunt with a 7x57 too. Absolutely fantastic cartridge.
7 rem mag is out, 7 prc is soon to be out . 7 weatherby is out as well.
There is so much to take in with this video, that was just finished my third viewing. Excellent work John. I am amazed that the 175gr. Nosler is still a very lethal elk round at 800 yards! I will not hunt at those ranges but am still amazed by the stats! I look forward to reading your ebook! Thanks for all you do!
Thanks Jeff, glad you're enjoying these videos! That 28 Nosler is indeed pretty impressive with the 175gr ABLR. Let me know what you think about the E-Book!
Actually, the Nosler AccuBond LR has a minimum velocity rating of 1300fps. With the .28 Nosler, going 3160fps (as per Nosler Load Data), it hits 1300fps at 1900 yards!! So that's it's actual max range... insane! The .300 Win Mag with the 190gr ABLR hits 1300fps at around 1600 yards.
Now I don't intend on ever going past 600 yards, and currently only go to 300, so that's not my concern lol. Everyone has different philosophies and ideologies, so while one guy will say it's ethical to go 800 plus, it's not me, that's for sure.
John, as with all your publications, your book is top notch in the information department 😁. This is what bothers me about the 28 Nosler. For whatever reason Nosler decided to use a short .181 freebore in the modern era of long and sleek scenar type projectiles. And then they are required to seat the ABLR projectile so far into to the case that you get robbed of the powder volume. Seems odd but I would have to ask a ballistician why. Also, why do a 3° taper? When I ordered my barrel, I went with a .267 freebore so I can load the Berger 195gr EOL for the heel to be loaded at the shoulder/neck junction to be at jam and I went to a 1°30" taper. It will also accommodate the heavy ABLR hunting round a lot better. This barrel shoots a very tight group with 175 ABLR and tighter still with the EOL. You already know that I am against long range hunting but I do like a set up that can shoot tight groups at a thousand yards.
I agree with you Marc. At 800yards everything is alive. Wind, density, barometric pressure, etc... They all have a sharp effect on bullet trajectory and I'm not going to shoot at majestic species unless I can control the kill! 300-400 is my max. And that's pushing it under the best conditions with the best rifle. See my comments attached. The only thing I hunt at a thousand yards is steel...
@@Jeff_Seely Every shot counts! I had to learn the hard way, but now I know my limit. Luckily getting closer is challenging, which makes it fun! I keep a little booklet to keep track of my shooting and hunting and according to that, my average shot distance is under 100m... longest shot was 220m. On warthogs my average distance is 51m! Like I said... getting close is more fun!
A 300 Winmag rifle can be bought for less than 400 bucks and ammo can go down to 30 bucks a box.
i think for most hunters keeping the shots in ethical hunting distances they would be better off with 3006 spring , 7mm rem an maybe the 300 win due to recoil and flinching
300 PRC and 300 Norma vs those you mentioned. Also I think 7mmPRC is going to be a winner but with Nosler Bullets. Big scary bears and Cape Buffalo .416 RM. Who is going to neck 300 PRC up to .338 PRC
I was thinking exactly the same thoughts as you regarding the 300 PRC and the new 7mm PRC while researching and recording content for this video. Thanks for your comment!
Can you do an apples to apples comparison of 325wsm, 8mm rem mag and 8x57
Please?
Hello everyone, greetings from Spain, I am thinking of buying my first rifle and I am not sure which one to buy between the BERGARA WILDERNESS TERRAIN AND THE TIKKA SUPER VARMINT in 300 WM caliber. I would like to know your opinion, thank you very much.
also here is a question not related to this video but has anyone necked down the 3006 to 7mm? there is 7mm rem mag an 7mm08 rem ( from 308win ) im just wondering if there is a wild cat of 3006 necked down to 7mm ?
Good question. Yes, there is such a round: the 280 Remington. Remington made all sorts of mistakes with their marketing and the logistics of their release when they introduced the cartridge, but it's an all around solid performer. Nosler breathed new life into the cartridge when they standardized the 280 Ackley Improved several years ago. Learn more about both of them here: th-cam.com/video/2XkQdhf83F8/w-d-xo.html
280 Rem- 7MM Express same cartrige as a 7-06
For a little extra, look at the 280 AI
Hey bud when u gone do 7mm mag vs 7 prc you been gone to long miss you
More are in the hopper. A 7mm PRC comparison is definitely in the works, just need to get my hands on one first!
300 Winmag 150 gr Hornady Superformance claims 3400 fps mv.
I researched it too and it said that it's the standard twist rate on a 28 Nosler is a 1 and 8 inch twist but whatever😂
SAAMI spec for the 28 Nosler cartridge is 1:9". Here it is, straight from the horse's mouth (p87): saami.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ANSI-SAAMI-Z299.4-CFR-Approved-2015-12-14-Posting-Copy.pdf
Companies making 28 Nosler rifles with 1:8" twist rates (like Browning with a couple versions of the X-Bolt) are a fairly recent development
if you dont need either for their power then why take that much recoil? if you do fit a suppressor or break that works for you or get a smaller powered rifle with dealable power, their power is useful
Because this is America and I want one that's why.
@@joshlower3520damn right! I want one of each! Everyone should have at least one or the other
In future compare 30 nosler with 300 win please
Good idea!
A 7 MM/Win Mag about the same.
Not realy
About the same as what? Case capacity isn't close to a 28Nos, neither is fps, ft lbs of energy, etc. A fast twist barreled 7 mag is definitely comparable to a 7 PRC, because of the higher case capacity. 7 mag is just limited by SAAMI specs.
@@goranmalnar5172 Didn't explain myself propperly. I ment a wildcat 7mm on a 300 WM case, Still under the 28 Nosler case cap. and performace. Personally I'm for a Mag lengh(3.8" Action/magazine) chambered in 7 Rem Mag, where I can seat out bullets a bit. Just because of availability of the 7RM cartridge. There isn't anything I could hunt that can't be shot with a 7RM
@@sneakybow1 Correct, 7RM, 7Wby, and 7PRC identical(except it can seat longer bullets in a std. long action). the 28 Nosler is the hotrod. I Personally will use a mag. action (3.8 ") for a 7RM cartridge to seat out longer bullets and gain some case cap. I doubt I will use anything heavier than 180 Grns for hunting in the 7RM(Std 9 pitch). Just because of the availability of the 7RM. If I order a new barrel might go to 8 pitch
Would be nice to have a heavier 7mm Scirocco offering for the 28Nos, but alas, the only offering is a 150gr. Federal stopped offering the 155 TA load for the 28Nos. They were supposed to be bringing out a 175gr TA in 7mm. That would be bad bad elk medicine.
They still make the 155gr TA load as far as I know, but that ammo is just really hard to find. I know they were talking about making a "heavy" 7mm TA load for the 7mm PRC. Perhaps they'll offer it for the 28 Nosler as well...
@Thebiggamehuntingblog last I looked for the 28 Nosler it said discontinued for the 155 load. Checked several sources and all said the same thing. A 175 would make more sense out of the 28 anyways I think.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but can you send me the other sources you found saying they discontinued that load?
@Thebiggamehuntingblog easiest is to just look at suppliers. Midway lists it as discontinued on their site. I know people have called and asked Federal about the load and were told it was discontinued. It hasn't been available in over two years. Last I checked there was only one listing for it even on GunBroker.
I contacted the Federal rifle ammunition product manager today and he confirmed they have NOT discontinued that 155gr Terminal Ascent load for the 28 Nosler. He did say they temporarily paused production of that particular load due to component shortages and to enable them to focus more on the other offerings in that lineup with the elevated demand for ammo lately. However, he said they will be restarting production of both the 155gr TA load and a new "heavy" 170gr TA load for the 28 Nosler.