Palmetto State Armory released their 15 round magazines for the dagger micro. These are directly compatible with 43X/48, some kind of polymer and metal hybrid. They sold out in minutes!
I have a G48, black slide, non-mos. Runs flawlessly with glock magazines. Throw a shield arms mag and mag catch into the equation, gun turns into a door stop. After many range sessions, tinkering, hobbyist gunsmithing...etc, here's what I had to do to make these mags reliable...1. I had to take a pair of plyers, and bend a "feed ramp" into the front lip of the magazine, over where the bullets would pass over. This was to keep the lip of the shell casing from catching this sharp edge. If you look at glock magazines, they all have a little feed ramp made into the steel liner of the mag. 2. I noticed that the tolerance between my extractor and breach face seemed to be a bit tight. I took some 1000 grit sand paper and wet sanded the inside of my extractor lip to allow for more space for the lip of the shell casing to slide between the extractor and breach face. It also seemed like the glock factory extractor coating was a little thick so the sandpaper helped remove it. 3. Using some 1000+ grit sandpaper, I wet sanded the tip of the firing pin a bit to smooth out any sharp edges and to enhance the capacity of the angle that it comes with from the factory. It seemed that sometimes when the shells would get stuck, the firing pin was poking out of the breach face and was unable to go back in because of the pressure from the rim of the casing pushing on it. All of these things were done in an effort to make the process of the bullet being chambered a little easier on the gun, I've since run a couple hundred rounds through the gun with zero issues, which is a far cry from having multiple malfunctions with every magazine.
That’s the funny part. I couldn’t believe how unreliable they were until i polished the feed ramp. So I feel you on the tinkering with it. I am going to get a higher quality extractor. They apparently have better tolerances and more give
I have no issues with my glock mags but the shield mags keep going to slide lock. I think modifying a perfectly good pistol to fit an aftermarket mag is a mistake.
I purchased the 3 magazines from Shield Arms as part of a combo package which also included the magazines with a magazine catch and a release. All 3 magazines malfunctioned in my G43x MOS. Thankfully it was at the range and not in a self defense situation. They don’t have a customer friendly return policy. I will only run Glock magazines through my Glock going forward.
OEM 10rd mag in gun while in holster and Tyrant Designs +4 on OEM mag as back up and I am good to go with the 43X. I am not going to sacrifice reliability for a few more rounds.
Honestly, before I shoot the shield arm mag or rake out to the range, I usually load them up for 3 weeks to 1 month to make sure the spring tension is broken in. Other than that, it had never failed me or no single hiccups.
I’m late to this issue but I wonder how the newer Gen 3 shield arms mags work for you. They are manufactured at a new facility in the states and are slightly different in design.
I have 5 S15 mags and they're all garbage. 2 Gen1 and 3 Gen2. They're way too loose inside the magazine well. I sent my mags to them and they sent me the same magazines back with a sheet of paper claiming they're all up to spec.
I've had two failures to feed with my G48 with glock mags, unmodified except for red dot and different sights. Might have to try polishing my feed ramp, but it feels fine now. It was with Sig v crown hollow points. I think the G48/43x pistols are a little more sensitive to feeding issues, maybe due to spring weight vs slide mass? the two failures I had was when shooting at a longer distance and I may have been relaxing my grip just a little from the "crush grip" I like to use, don't know because I haven't been able to duplicate it when purposefully "limp wristing" the pistol. What I do know is I feel "well armed enough" when carrying with a factory mag in the pistol and a spare in my pocket.
I just carry the Glock 10 round RELIABLE factory magazines for my 43x and 48. I don’t worry about reloading. I know I can speed reload no problem, thus making Shield Arms crap mags really undesirable.
Good video. There is a Gen3 coming. They’ve added 4 dimples to the back of the magazine tube to force the magazine forward in the mag well to improve that interface with the feed ramp.
I have a few s15 mags but have gone back to the glock mags until I can put 500rds through the sheild arms mags. I got about 200 though them with no issues but just keep seeing everyone complain about issues with them so peace of mind I switch back to glock mags and I just carry a third mag in my pocket.
How does that make sence polished feed ramp and it only works with the 20 rounder think that it probably didn't have a lot to do with your mags always good to polish Ramp though I polished the whole entrance the palmetto mags are doing so hot and gen 3 sheilds since they switched manufacturers they arntbas good as the gen 2s ? Again I have 10 15 rounders and 2 20 rounders I've had know issues and I've shot at least 3 thousand rounds through them I did change them all to the max power springs .have a great one thanks for the update the amount of problems that people have had with these mags does make me nervous that one day I may have a malfunctions so I still carry my 19 when I can can't do a 19 in a t shirt though so 19 carry is right around corner when I carry my 43x or 48 I have a sheild armes mag in the gun and my backup is the ten rounder to insure that I will have more of a winning chance .
@@shootintheshtpodcast thanks dude..no problem for me either. Have one for the 45 mos for a 509t... The internet brings out the neuroticism in people. Always looking for a 1 in 1000 issue and making it the defining characteristic of a product. Thanks again dude
@@CuttinInIdaho No problem, I had a bunch of people saying stuff like, “how can you recommend such garbage, not a serious review if you run a CHPWS plate” kinda stuff. Like I get they may have had some bad shit, but it’s always worked
well being they are now releasing a Gen 3 and went to a new manufacture they had issues they knew about. I will be getting a g43x mos and will be using the soon to be released Palmetto state mags which are partially polymer over molded in mag catch area so no need to swap out mag catch. The polymer over mold will also take up the slack that the shield arms mags need the spline on to take up the fore and aft space. Palmetto state is releasing their version of the 43x mos so that is why they will have a 15rd mag as their gun will come standard with it.
I have the 43X and tried the shield mags Gen 1 and 2. They didn't run for me after following all of the requirements. It's a waste of money and not safe enough to risk my life with them. I would definitely keep the 43X stock and buy a similar size firearm with stock 15rd mags. I went with the Hellcat Pro. I'm not blowing any more money.
I’ve got a question I noticed you shoot left-handed .I’m new to the channel and I have a Glock 43X with the shield, arms magazine catch have you ever noticed when you put your magazine in sometimes it gets hung up on the catch I wasn’t sure if it was a common thing or or just me .
Solid video. Folks get too invested into their acquisitions and make it their personality, so when they see data contradicting their own anecdotes they take it personally. "Mine are fine, therefore there's no possible way that someone else can have issues. They're liars! User error! Rheeeeeeeee!" It's like we don't want innovation and companies to succeed simply because we're reporting issues that occur. The internet be the internet, yo. My Gen 2s have gone back to warranty 3X now. SA CS eventually offered to replace with Gen 3s, which I have now. The dimples in the rear do seem to seat the mags more forward. I haven't fielded mine yet but I've already received reports from a few followers who have, and they've continued to experience failures to feed. I know that CMI is no longer the OEM for these, so that's already a plus one for SA. I'll need time behind these before deciding what to do with them. I am in the camp of I shouldn't have to modify my OEM to get products designed around OEM to work. Tolerance stacking is a thing but the design should've factored in all OEM tolerances and there shouldn't be such a high report of failure. Polishing the ramp is generally a good thing but at the same time you shouldn't have to get a self-defense based product to work. It's not like this is a race gat where you have to mate parts.
I’ve been following your content, instead of just sending back for cs warranty I went and returned one and Brownells sent it right out. I can’t wait to see your conclusion, I’ll be picking up some gen 3s when they get released and see what happens
@@shootintheshtpodcast It is nice to have a distributor to act as a buffer. I went directly through SA for CS inquiries. I acquired my 6 Gen 2s and basepads from other retailers and directly through SA, so I was better off going through them for CS. Through the warranty exchanges the original sample size of 6 mags (2-flush, 4-extended) has now grown to a total sample size of 13-Gen 2s and 6-Gen 3s that have passed through my hands. With the exception of the Gen 3 mags, which are currently unfired, I have yet to have a complete set of S15s that would function 100%. The +5 extensions, +5 springs, mag catch, and magwell have all been present through the entire use, and were not exchanged by SA during warranty. Since they did not, I can assume that they inspected and confirmed those to be within spec. I will explain what happened through each iteration of mags in the final video later. I appreciate you for putting out objective data for the community, big homie.
@@bunnyoperator thank you man, and I can’t wait for your video about it either. You put out a ton of good knowledge and I keep tubing in. So keep it up
Shield arms mags seem to be hit or miss. A lot of people have no issues, and a lot of people have issues. I have the Z9 mags for the 43, and although they function fine, I don’t get slide lock with one of them. Seem kind of expensive, to not work as intended.
@@shootintheshtpodcast Idk if it works but I'll find out I reckon. I just got the 43x and holosun 407k didnt even know of an adapter plate... Never heard of her. I got the 43x at cost and am regretting the rabit hole of Glocks needing after market stuff lol
I still think the SA mags are the problem, it is a waste to have to keep buying SA mags ( $40+ a piece) and having to but a few to find 1 that works.. 6 mags x $40 is $240 plus shipping tax and time would be better spent on the 10 round OEM mags that have no issues at all.
If you’re asking why, then I have no idea. A couple of dudes commented on my last post saying “they’re absolute s***” but I haven’t had that experience
I had lots through my mags, BUT I've seen MANY videos where people had issues just like you. NOTE: it seems the problem is that with some the mags are sitting too far back by a hair--the gen 3 mags seem to address this with dimples in the back, but some people modded their gen1/2s by adding a single dimple and that fixed their issue.
After 35 years and thousands of rounds through various Glock pistols, the Glock platform is my go-to defensive carry firearm. I love firearms of many types so not a "fanboy". But for serious purposes my experience has always brought me back to one Glosck or another over the years. NEVER had a mag related malfunction with stock Glock mags. I had high hopes for the S15 mags. On paper, they sound great after all. However, after a couple of mag related malfunctions with the S15 mags I'm a HARD no-go with them. And while the capacity advantage of the Shield mags looks awesome on paper, ANY decrease in reliability of my defensive firearms is unacceptable. I paid way too much for two S15 mags that are now just paperweights. Fine for range use, but who needs expensive mags for range use?? Good for stoppage clearance drills I suppose... I'd NEVER trust my life to ANY aftermarket Glock mag. Magazines are the heart of any semiautomatic firearm. Factory Glock mags are the most reliable I have ever used in any firearm in well over 45 years of shooting. In my experience, deviating from a proven design for unnecessary capacity considerations is just not worth it. There is a reason that Glock made the G48 with 10 rounds rather than 15... The tolerances and physics just aren't there in the 48 grip's dimensions for that capacity AND still provide 100% reliability. RELIABILITY is what Glock has been about for damn near 40 years... Change their designs at your own risk. In the real world, if you can't handle a situation with 10-11 rounds, do you really think 5 more will make a substantial difference? Are you willing to sacrifice the stock 100% reliability to gain the dubious advantages provided by the few additional rounds? Not me...
I have 5 of them and even sent them back. They changed the springs but still having feeding issues. These things will definitely get you killed. I’m waiting on the PSA mags, hopefully they are better.
Well I don't know if you watched shot show this year but shield arms has made new 15rd magazine with the plastic surrounding the metal just lime the glock original magazines. That alone is worth taking a look at. It should've hit the market or should be hitting the market soon.
@Shootin the Sh!t Podcast it would be awesome for the one reason it would mean that we would no longer have to change the magazine catch to the metal one. And from what they said the price would be affordable so that would be pretty awesome.
@@eddiepappionjr.5193you don’t have to change the mag release, that is such a made up scam that shield arms perpetuated to sell more Merch. Every other polymer striker fired gun has a polymer catch with a metal mag, just complete nonsense
@@shootintheshtpodcastIts not Shield Arms. Its Palmetto who make budget stuff so not sure how to feel about them. For now I just continue to run my Glock 19 mags that I shaved the right side of the polymer off. So far so good.
I have an entire milk crate full of flocks and never seen a burr on any glock barrel? Now I’m going into basement and about to inspect 30 guns my head is spinning after watching this my bad glocks it auto corrected it
@@shootintheshtpodcast very interesting I always look for imperfections on everything naturally now I’m on it I have only looked at 3 of the 7 I have in reality but nothing yet
I have close to 1k rounds through my 3 Gen 3 s15s. 2 limp wrists, and 1 catastrophic failure on the last 4 rounds that caused the rounds to fall into mag. Flawless otherwise
They were a sales con and gimmicky scam from the start, and Shield Arms will happily keep selling everybody new Gens of mags when the old ones are shown to not work. Even the Gen 3's are showing problems.
@@calvinnelsonjr6465 the 19, it kills the webbing on my hand, and slide bit fro hell, I’m actually surprised the 43x is more comfortable to shoot, and I really don’t know how. I carry a 17 frequently, it’s not an issue to shoot, I have a ton of videos on it
@@shootintheshtpodcast I gotta check your vids.. I just think the 19 gen 3 or 5 is better for me than the 43x .. I would get a HC pro before I buy a 43x . I think the X is a niche gun. If they had a oem 15 rd I’d buy. I’m just not chancing SA mags.
@@ergofoxxxy sure but mustangs are horrible vehicles. Man I’m just here to test stuff and see what works. Do I feel confident enough to carry the 43x and shield arms mags. Yes. It’s kinda that simple. Also I carry a 17 and an M&P 2.0. So I carry a lot of different stuff
So “all you have to do is” keep sending them back. “You might have to go though 3 or 4 or 5” before you get a good one. Then “all you have to do is take a Dremel tool to your barrel..” JFC!! This is the worst advice I’ve ever seen. How about I spend money on things that are actually quality products. Yeah. I’ll do that instead.
All I’m saying is what has worked for me. Do I think it’s worth it. No. Sorry the review upset you. I’m just trying to let you know what worked for me.
You're statement is complete bs. I've never dropped any of my mags and they are all trash. They are designed with the intention of them being dropped. Do you think a cop has time to gently remove and replace it gently into a ammo pouch during a shootout?
Lol dont take advise from a nobody thats is a talking commercial. All ten of my mags have all worked great .you honestly get mad that people aren't listening to you lol 🤣 😂 🙄
The issues are probably more with quality control than the design of the magazine. I use the Shield Arms aluminum magazine catch and own 8 Shield Arms magazines. 3 of the 8 magazines have consistent failures to feed. It happens multiple times per magazine. I would not trust these with my life. Maybe the gen 3’s will be better.
Yup, but you do know that people continue to have actual issues, and we don’t get the sage treatment. Not saying he lied, but I am saying he got hand picked stuff. They sent him the mags.
Show me where you're finding these facts that Shield sent Aaron hand-picked magazines. Please. Because I ran two brand new mags through a brand new 48 MOS this past weekend, over 200 rounds, both ball and JHP. Not a single hiccup, no failures. Either buy better ammo or clean your firearms, because at this point I'm convinced its user error.
@@golfoxyankee1349 he said in the video they were sent to him. Ahhh so you’re emotionally attached to this product. There’s no convincing you of anything at this point.
@@shootintheshtpodcast dude, SHOW me the timestamp. Ive watched the video up down and sideways and I don't see any point where it states the magazines were sent to him
@@golfoxyankee1349 sorry I guess they weren’t sent to him. I will continue to test, and I’ll report what I find in another 1k. I’m glad you didn’t have any issues.
Palmetto State Armory released their 15 round magazines for the dagger micro. These are directly compatible with 43X/48, some kind of polymer and metal hybrid. They sold out in minutes!
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That’s great to know. Will wait for an email notification and try a few while waiting for the shield Gen 3 mags to be released
They didn't release them yet, just put them on the website and put sold out under them.
Ya bought 4 immediately from PSA !!! Theyre awesome
Rather have a guaranteed 10 than a possible 15.
Facts
I have a G48, black slide, non-mos. Runs flawlessly with glock magazines. Throw a shield arms mag and mag catch into the equation, gun turns into a door stop. After many range sessions, tinkering, hobbyist gunsmithing...etc, here's what I had to do to make these mags reliable...1. I had to take a pair of plyers, and bend a "feed ramp" into the front lip of the magazine, over where the bullets would pass over. This was to keep the lip of the shell casing from catching this sharp edge. If you look at glock magazines, they all have a little feed ramp made into the steel liner of the mag. 2. I noticed that the tolerance between my extractor and breach face seemed to be a bit tight. I took some 1000 grit sand paper and wet sanded the inside of my extractor lip to allow for more space for the lip of the shell casing to slide between the extractor and breach face. It also seemed like the glock factory extractor coating was a little thick so the sandpaper helped remove it. 3. Using some 1000+ grit sandpaper, I wet sanded the tip of the firing pin a bit to smooth out any sharp edges and to enhance the capacity of the angle that it comes with from the factory. It seemed that sometimes when the shells would get stuck, the firing pin was poking out of the breach face and was unable to go back in because of the pressure from the rim of the casing pushing on it. All of these things were done in an effort to make the process of the bullet being chambered a little easier on the gun, I've since run a couple hundred rounds through the gun with zero issues, which is a far cry from having multiple malfunctions with every magazine.
That’s the funny part. I couldn’t believe how unreliable they were until i polished the feed ramp. So I feel you on the tinkering with it. I am going to get a higher quality extractor. They apparently have better tolerances and more give
I trashed my shields and went back to Glock. Rather have a solid 10 than a possible 15.
I have no issues with my glock mags but the shield mags keep going to slide lock. I think modifying a perfectly good pistol to fit an aftermarket mag is a mistake.
I purchased the 3 magazines from Shield Arms as part of a combo package which also included the magazines with a magazine catch and a release. All 3 magazines malfunctioned in my G43x MOS. Thankfully it was at the range and not in a self defense situation. They don’t have a customer friendly return policy. I will only run Glock magazines through my Glock going forward.
@@arc___3623 ? I sent an email not using my YT email and they swapped mine out. No questions.
OEM 10rd mag in gun while in holster and Tyrant Designs +4 on OEM mag as back up and I am good to go with the 43X. I am not going to sacrifice reliability for a few more rounds.
Honestly, before I shoot the shield arm mag or rake out to the range, I usually load them up for 3 weeks to 1 month to make sure the spring tension is broken in. Other than that, it had never failed me or no single hiccups.
I’m late to this issue but I wonder how the newer Gen 3 shield arms mags work for you. They are manufactured at a new facility in the states and are slightly different in design.
The gen 3 mags now are great. Never shot the OEM mags. Just tossed it. Ran the gen 3’s and they run great.
I have 5 S15 mags and they're all garbage. 2 Gen1 and 3 Gen2. They're way too loose inside the magazine well. I sent my mags to them and they sent me the same magazines back with a sheet of paper claiming they're all up to spec.
Well that’s messed up, that’s not ok. I’m just reporting what I’m finding, if they did that to you, that’s jacked up
Did the exact same thing to me
I've had two failures to feed with my G48 with glock mags, unmodified except for red dot and different sights. Might have to try polishing my feed ramp, but it feels fine now. It was with Sig v crown hollow points. I think the G48/43x pistols are a little more sensitive to feeding issues, maybe due to spring weight vs slide mass? the two failures I had was when shooting at a longer distance and I may have been relaxing my grip just a little from the "crush grip" I like to use, don't know because I haven't been able to duplicate it when purposefully "limp wristing" the pistol. What I do know is I feel "well armed enough" when carrying with a factory mag in the pistol and a spare in my pocket.
I just carry the Glock 10 round RELIABLE factory magazines for my 43x and 48. I don’t worry about reloading. I know I can speed reload no problem, thus making Shield Arms crap mags really undesirable.
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Good video. There is a Gen3 coming. They’ve added 4 dimples to the back of the magazine tube to force the magazine forward in the mag well to improve that interface with the feed ramp.
Interesting. Thanks for the heads up.
I have a few s15 mags but have gone back to the glock mags until I can put 500rds through the sheild arms mags. I got about 200 though them with no issues but just keep seeing everyone complain about issues with them so peace of mind I switch back to glock mags and I just carry a third mag in my pocket.
How does that make sence polished feed ramp and it only works with the 20 rounder think that it probably didn't have a lot to do with your mags always good to polish Ramp though I polished the whole entrance the palmetto mags are doing so hot and gen 3 sheilds since they switched manufacturers they arntbas good as the gen 2s ? Again I have 10 15 rounders and 2 20 rounders I've had know issues and I've shot at least 3 thousand rounds through them I did change them all to the max power springs .have a great one thanks for the update the amount of problems that people have had with these mags does make me nervous that one day I may have a malfunctions so I still carry my 19 when I can can't do a 19 in a t shirt though so 19 carry is right around corner when I carry my 43x or 48 I have a sheild armes mag in the gun and my backup is the ten rounder to insure that I will have more of a winning chance .
Great vid, one question.. will I need to buy the mag catch for it to work on my 48?
Yes, unfortunately or you will kill your stock one and it won’t retain mags
@@shootintheshtpodcast thank you!
I hope you see this comment...you mentioned catching heat for the chpws plate (like it's no good)...why do you think that? Is it a no go?
I don’t know at all. I haven’t had an issue and I have 3 different plates. I keep hearing bad customer service and bad QC but I haven’t seen that.
@@shootintheshtpodcast thanks dude..no problem for me either. Have one for the 45 mos for a 509t...
The internet brings out the neuroticism in people. Always looking for a 1 in 1000 issue and making it the defining characteristic of a product.
Thanks again dude
@@CuttinInIdaho No problem, I had a bunch of people saying stuff like, “how can you recommend such garbage, not a serious review if you run a CHPWS plate” kinda stuff. Like I get they may have had some bad shit, but it’s always worked
I recognize that shooting range. I go there a lot. Is that steel always there or do you bring that with you when you go there?
I bring my own steel
well being they are now releasing a Gen 3 and went to a new manufacture they had issues they knew about. I will be getting a g43x mos and will be using the soon to be released Palmetto state mags which are partially polymer over molded in mag catch area so no need to swap out mag catch. The polymer over mold will also take up the slack that the shield arms mags need the spline on to take up the fore and aft space. Palmetto state is releasing their version of the 43x mos so that is why they will have a 15rd mag as their gun will come standard with it.
When will the mags be available?
What Gen are your mags?
These are the Gen 2’s I have an update video about the Gen 3’s here: th-cam.com/video/Z9_QM0cR8l4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=OlFJ7PP_L81HWM0T
I have the 43X and tried the shield mags Gen 1 and 2. They didn't run for me after following all of the requirements. It's a waste of money and not safe enough to risk my life with them. I would definitely keep the 43X stock and buy a similar size firearm with stock 15rd mags. I went with the Hellcat Pro. I'm not blowing any more money.
I understand your pain, this is kinda why I am testing them, I will buy more and keep testing
I bought one 15round mag from there and haven’t had a single issue with mine🤷🏾♂️ guess it’s all different for everyone
I got a second gen n it’s makes a rattle noise when I have it full of bullet n when I shake it I hear a bullet slidin in the inside
I’ve got a question I noticed you shoot left-handed .I’m new to the channel and I have a Glock 43X with the shield, arms magazine catch have you ever noticed when you put your magazine in sometimes it gets hung up on the catch I wasn’t sure if it was a common thing or or just me .
No I’ve never had it get hung up, but I have fumbled a reload
Solid video. Folks get too invested into their acquisitions and make it their personality, so when they see data contradicting their own anecdotes they take it personally. "Mine are fine, therefore there's no possible way that someone else can have issues. They're liars! User error! Rheeeeeeeee!" It's like we don't want innovation and companies to succeed simply because we're reporting issues that occur. The internet be the internet, yo.
My Gen 2s have gone back to warranty 3X now. SA CS eventually offered to replace with Gen 3s, which I have now. The dimples in the rear do seem to seat the mags more forward. I haven't fielded mine yet but I've already received reports from a few followers who have, and they've continued to experience failures to feed. I know that CMI is no longer the OEM for these, so that's already a plus one for SA. I'll need time behind these before deciding what to do with them.
I am in the camp of I shouldn't have to modify my OEM to get products designed around OEM to work. Tolerance stacking is a thing but the design should've factored in all OEM tolerances and there shouldn't be such a high report of failure. Polishing the ramp is generally a good thing but at the same time you shouldn't have to get a self-defense based product to work. It's not like this is a race gat where you have to mate parts.
I’ve been following your content, instead of just sending back for cs warranty I went and returned one and Brownells sent it right out. I can’t wait to see your conclusion, I’ll be picking up some gen 3s when they get released and see what happens
@@shootintheshtpodcast It is nice to have a distributor to act as a buffer. I went directly through SA for CS inquiries. I acquired my 6 Gen 2s and basepads from other retailers and directly through SA, so I was better off going through them for CS.
Through the warranty exchanges the original sample size of 6 mags (2-flush, 4-extended) has now grown to a total sample size of 13-Gen 2s and 6-Gen 3s that have passed through my hands. With the exception of the Gen 3 mags, which are currently unfired, I have yet to have a complete set of S15s that would function 100%.
The +5 extensions, +5 springs, mag catch, and magwell have all been present through the entire use, and were not exchanged by SA during warranty. Since they did not, I can assume that they inspected and confirmed those to be within spec.
I will explain what happened through each iteration of mags in the final video later. I appreciate you for putting out objective data for the community, big homie.
@@bunnyoperator thank you man, and I can’t wait for your video about it either. You put out a ton of good knowledge and I keep tubing in. So keep it up
Shield arms mags seem to be hit or miss. A lot of people have no issues, and a lot of people have issues. I have the Z9 mags for the 43, and although they function fine, I don’t get slide lock with one of them. Seem kind of expensive, to not work as intended.
I just got the chpws... It's not good? I thought that was the good one
I thought so too, and the internet wanted my head for recommending it. If it works then it works
@@shootintheshtpodcast Idk if it works but I'll find out I reckon. I just got the 43x and holosun 407k didnt even know of an adapter plate... Never heard of her. I got the 43x at cost and am regretting the rabit hole of Glocks needing after market stuff lol
@@laneb2458 the 407k shouldn’t need the adapter plate. It should work direct with Glock slim frame slide
@@shootintheshtpodcast I thought I read that the screws were too long
I still think the SA mags are the problem, it is a waste to have to keep buying SA mags ( $40+ a piece) and having to but a few to find 1 that works.. 6 mags x $40 is $240 plus shipping tax and time would be better spent on the 10 round OEM mags that have no issues at all.
I agree, but I’m here to test stuff not just pass or fail it. For some it works, for others it doesnt
I have 5 of the grey follower s15s and never had a jam and have around 2rounds through each
what is the CHPWS plate terrible
If you’re asking why, then I have no idea. A couple of dudes commented on my last post saying “they’re absolute s***” but I haven’t had that experience
Hey what holster are you running for the light
Tier 1 Concealed
I had lots through my mags, BUT I've seen MANY videos where people had issues just like you.
NOTE: it seems the problem is that with some the mags are sitting too far back by a hair--the gen 3 mags seem to address this with dimples in the back, but some people modded their gen1/2s by adding a single dimple and that fixed their issue.
They are trash, I was a sucker and bought 4. Pissed total trash!
Bought ONE s15 mag.. was nervous but haven’t had a single issue with it.. I’ve put target ammo and defense ammo through it
After 35 years and thousands of rounds through various Glock pistols, the Glock platform is my go-to defensive carry firearm. I love firearms of many types so not a "fanboy". But for serious purposes my experience has always brought me back to one Glosck or another over the years. NEVER had a mag related malfunction with stock Glock mags. I had high hopes for the S15 mags. On paper, they sound great after all. However, after a couple of mag related malfunctions with the S15 mags I'm a HARD no-go with them. And while the capacity advantage of the Shield mags looks awesome on paper, ANY decrease in reliability of my defensive firearms is unacceptable. I paid way too much for two S15 mags that are now just paperweights. Fine for range use, but who needs expensive mags for range use?? Good for stoppage clearance drills I suppose... I'd NEVER trust my life to ANY aftermarket Glock mag. Magazines are the heart of any semiautomatic firearm. Factory Glock mags are the most reliable I have ever used in any firearm in well over 45 years of shooting. In my experience, deviating from a proven design for unnecessary capacity considerations is just not worth it. There is a reason that Glock made the G48 with 10 rounds rather than 15... The tolerances and physics just aren't there in the 48 grip's dimensions for that capacity AND still provide 100% reliability. RELIABILITY is what Glock has been about for damn near 40 years... Change their designs at your own risk. In the real world, if you can't handle a situation with 10-11 rounds, do you really think 5 more will make a substantial difference? Are you willing to sacrifice the stock 100% reliability to gain the dubious advantages provided by the few additional rounds? Not me...
I have 5 of them and even sent them back. They changed the springs but still having feeding issues. These things will definitely get you killed. I’m waiting on the PSA mags, hopefully they are better.
I have three S15s and one has a five round extension. They run flawlessly in my G43x MOS.
50% of these comments say this, and then the others say they don’t. So I’m just gonna say it needs more testing
I'm giving the palmetto State mags a try.
nice, good to know...ive wanted a g43x mos since they came out just havent got 1 yet
Keep keeping it real brother!!
SA is now on Gen 3 of this mag. Video is confusing when you don't reference specific Gen. If i missed it my fault.
I believe I stated if not my bad, here is the gen 3 video. th-cam.com/video/eGYgLZVGCbs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=k0UG8Sdb6HtE5b9g
The new gen 3 mags are supposed to fix the issues. Time to send in my gen 2 that don’t work
I guess I’ll buy the gen 3s and see
I have 5 out of 2 very different 43Xs and I haven’t had an issue. Maybe I just have good juju. 🤷🏽♂️
Some do some dont
@@shootintheshtpodcast I think it’s dependent on the year made. Most of the issues I’ve seen, if not all were from the first run models.
Use the magazines that came with and were designed for your pewpew... That's my opinion
I mean the shield arms are designed for the 43x / 48, but I can’t say I disagree. I am here to do testing, so I’ll keep testing
Well I don't know if you watched shot show this year but shield arms has made new 15rd magazine with the plastic surrounding the metal just lime the glock original magazines. That alone is worth taking a look at. It should've hit the market or should be hitting the market soon.
I’ll take a look, I didn’t really bother with shot show this year since nothing ever hits the market the same year they talk about it
@Shootin the Sh!t Podcast it would be awesome for the one reason it would mean that we would no longer have to change the magazine catch to the metal one. And from what they said the price would be affordable so that would be pretty awesome.
@@eddiepappionjr.5193you don’t have to change the mag release, that is such a made up scam that shield arms perpetuated to sell more Merch. Every other polymer striker fired gun has a polymer catch with a metal mag, just complete nonsense
that was Palmetto state not shield arms.
@@shootintheshtpodcastIts not Shield Arms. Its Palmetto who make budget stuff so not sure how to feel about them. For now I just continue to run my Glock 19 mags that I shaved the right side of the polymer off. So far so good.
I thought they was always good? I guess I’ll stick to Glock OEM 10 rounders
I got all 10 mags of mine working 100 percent .
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I have an entire milk crate full of flocks and never seen a burr on any glock barrel? Now I’m going into basement and about to inspect 30 guns my head is spinning after watching this my bad glocks it auto corrected it
I don’t own any flocks. But it was pitted and burred up so I polished it
@@shootintheshtpodcast very interesting I always look for imperfections on everything naturally now I’m on it I have only looked at 3 of the 7 I have in reality but nothing yet
@@wesmonahan8488 most people I’ve talked to haven’t seen it. I think I just missed QC or something.
I have close to 1k rounds through my 3 Gen 3 s15s. 2 limp wrists, and 1 catastrophic failure on the last 4 rounds that caused the rounds to fall into mag. Flawless otherwise
Gen 3s are a different story, I’m currently testing them. The gen 2s were bad.
@@shootintheshtpodcast hopefully they work out for you. I still see the PSA mags taking over since you don't gotta change mag catch
@@ATSaale I have 2 of those to test also
Got 10 gen 2 and they run I'm lucky I heard .
They were a sales con and gimmicky scam from the start, and Shield Arms will happily keep selling everybody new Gens of mags when the old ones are shown to not work.
Even the Gen 3's are showing problems.
Just get a Glock 19 !! It’s not big like people claim. Not trusting SA
I have one, I hate shooting it
@@shootintheshtpodcast 19 or the 43x
@@calvinnelsonjr6465 the 19, it kills the webbing on my hand, and slide bit fro hell, I’m actually surprised the 43x is more comfortable to shoot, and I really don’t know how. I carry a 17 frequently, it’s not an issue to shoot, I have a ton of videos on it
@@shootintheshtpodcast I gotta check your vids.. I just think the 19 gen 3 or 5 is better for me than the 43x .. I would get a HC pro before I buy a 43x . I think the X is a niche gun. If they had a oem 15 rd I’d buy. I’m just not chancing SA mags.
@@calvinnelsonjr6465 I feel you, I’m just out here to put it’s through it’s pace. Gonna keep testing and see what I find
I’ve heard that if you use a (15) round mag you need to change the mag release to a metal one.
You do. Shield arms one is cheap and good
Lets see a video of them failing. I want to see it in action.
th-cam.com/video/F-x4ewv38k4/w-d-xo.html
Can't you just trim the screws down?
Sure but I’d rather just have better screws anyway
why do people want to make their pistols unreliable. the reason you bought it in the first place was bc of its reliability, not its round count .
Ahhh that’s where you’re wrong, it’s a Glock, I bought it so I could spend money to make a better less reliable gun🤣🤣🤣
@@shootintheshtpodcast like buying a mustang and blowing the engine. wouldn't be fun keeping it stock
@@ergofoxxxy sure but mustangs are horrible vehicles. Man I’m just here to test stuff and see what works. Do I feel confident enough to carry the 43x and shield arms mags. Yes. It’s kinda that simple. Also I carry a 17 and an M&P 2.0. So I carry a lot of different stuff
@@shootintheshtpodcast oh I carry the 2.0 too! I've never seen an unreliable test of it and I completely trust the heck out of it!
Left hand gang
You have the gen 2s
Yes I do
@@shootintheshtpodcast Gen 3 work great too
Have 2 gen 3s on the way
Those mags are trash. If you can't do it with 10 carry a g19 . Or train better. That's my opinion. I wouldn't chance a malfunction on my carry
Buckies!!! 🦫 👍
So “all you have to do is” keep sending them back. “You might have to go though 3 or 4 or 5” before you get a good one. Then “all you have to do is take a Dremel tool to your barrel..”
JFC!! This is the worst advice I’ve ever seen. How about I spend money on things that are actually quality products. Yeah. I’ll do that instead.
All I’m saying is what has worked for me. Do I think it’s worth it. No. Sorry the review upset you. I’m just trying to let you know what worked for me.
There is a gen 3 version out
Yes, we will see how those do also
@@shootintheshtpodcast they seem to be doing much better so far. I put 300 rounds through them. Gold dot Speer and federal HST.
Alternatively, do not buy a reluctant to innovate Glock ? 🤷🙈
Glock fanboys love Glock so much they are willing to buy unreliable magazines just to equal the playing field and compete with better firearms!
No such thing as a better firearms.
@@shootintheshtpodcast depends who you ask.
@@kenna.9368 name what you think
Stop dropping mags on the ground, and you not gonna have problems))))
No
You're statement is complete bs. I've never dropped any of my mags and they are all trash. They are designed with the intention of them being dropped. Do you think a cop has time to gently remove and replace it gently into a ammo pouch during a shootout?
@@donrice3464 he’s one of the emotionally attached to this product people that I laugh at
That is the Glock 43X MOS......
What?! No wayyyy?!
Lol dont take advise from a nobody thats is a talking commercial. All ten of my mags have all worked great .you honestly get mad that people aren't listening to you lol 🤣 😂 🙄
No, not at all man. I love Brownells! Use code “BOP10” and save
Spend 150 to get 10% off lmao
Yup, save you some money
Don't be shitting on Brownsmells! Shame on you!
Cut the screws down
Why? The screws not the problem. You didn’t listen at all
The issues are probably more with quality control than the design of the magazine. I use the Shield Arms aluminum magazine catch and own 8 Shield Arms magazines. 3 of the 8 magazines have consistent failures to feed. It happens multiple times per magazine. I would not trust these with my life. Maybe the gen 3’s will be better.
They suck. Period.
Good ole Brownsmells!
LOL use Glock mags in Glocks folks.
You really should watch the update
You realize Sage Dynamics put 7,000 rounds through his S15 mags and has zero issues, right? Until you can beat that sample size, don't bother
Yup, but you do know that people continue to have actual issues, and we don’t get the sage treatment. Not saying he lied, but I am saying he got hand picked stuff. They sent him the mags.
Show me where you're finding these facts that Shield sent Aaron hand-picked magazines. Please. Because I ran two brand new mags through a brand new 48 MOS this past weekend, over 200 rounds, both ball and JHP. Not a single hiccup, no failures. Either buy better ammo or clean your firearms, because at this point I'm convinced its user error.
@@golfoxyankee1349 he said in the video they were sent to him. Ahhh so you’re emotionally attached to this product. There’s no convincing you of anything at this point.
@@shootintheshtpodcast dude, SHOW me the timestamp. Ive watched the video up down and sideways and I don't see any point where it states the magazines were sent to him
@@golfoxyankee1349 sorry I guess they weren’t sent to him. I will continue to test, and I’ll report what I find in another 1k. I’m glad you didn’t have any issues.
What holster do you use for the 43x
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