I am looking forward to seeing some MORAL AMBIGUITY. Instead of "hero" vs "villain". A more complicated relationship story than the generic plots of some of the other Rocky movies where you just have a "good guy" and "bad guy". His former friend might to a degree be JUSTIFIED with his resentments and Adonis has some sins in his past he is not a "saint".
I wish Stallone had reprized his role as Rocky to help train and mentor Adonis again. You know what would have been a neat callback? If Rocky makes Adonis fly with him to RUSSIA and the same part of Russia where he trained in Rocky 3 and when Adonis asks why Rocky says to him (or something similar). "Back in 1985 when I had to fight the father of Viktor Drago I trained here and this environment helped to mold me into the toughest fighter I had ever been. I was pushing 40 years old and was past my prime then but I had more strength and endurance after training here than I had had even in my youth. I plan to make you do everything I had to do to beat Ivan". Then have a training montage where Adonis is shown doing most of the same exercises rocky did in Rocky 4 with maybe a few changes to keep it from looking exactly the same.
I kind of suspect that Apollo would have beaten Clubber Lang had they fought in Rocky 3. Rocky had possibly evolved beyond Apollo, symbolized by winning the race on the beach, and maybe Apollo would have lost to Rocky had they fought again (I won't count that "secret" fight. It was a friendly point scoring sparring match. No way they would go all out brutal without the supervision of a doctor and referee) but Rocky beat Clubber pretty easily, knocking him out in the 3rd round and not getting badly hurt (compared to his other major fights). So maybe being somewhat inferior overall to Rocky now (but only a little bit) he would have taken more damage and it would have taken more rounds to pull it off but likely Apollo still would have won. I really am not buying the villain in Creed 3 being able to beat Viktor. Yes he is a tough badass and I would not mess with him but he just does not at all look like he has the power of Viktor, who is (if you compare PRIMES) the 2nd strongest in sheer raw power (not necessarily skill, Apollo beats him in that category) for the entire franchise, 2nd only to his own father. So the way I see it Adonis is fighting a LESS dangerous opponent than the 2nd movie.
You know what might be cool for Creed 4? I kind of got the idea from Undisputed 2 starring Michael Jai White. Boxing is getting a tad "dated" as a martial art since MMA is more versatile allowing attacks not used in boxing like kicks, elbow strikes, and wrestling,grappling techniques. It would be interesting if Adonis had to fight a world class MMA fighter and maybe was winning at first, pounding away at the guy with his superior punches and then his luck runs out when he is attacked in a way that he was never trained to defend against. Maybe the MMA villain kicks him brutally hard in the legs and then tackles him with grappling techniques that he was never trained to defend against since its not allowed in boxing and like Mike Jai White in Undisputed 2 Adonis has to take a crash course in MMA to rematch the guy. Maybe the guy taunts him in the media, admitting that he lost the boxing match but that boxing is a sham and does not prove someone is a superior fighter since in a real fight there is so much else a person can do so Adonis trains very hard in MMA and using it to supplement his boxing he manages to win a rematch but is still the underdog since he is not as experienced as the villain (another similarity to Undisputed 2, but without prison of course).
The one aspect I was hoping II delved into was the 2 legitimate Creed children from Rocky II. In the opening scene of Creed I, Mary Ann said, "I pushed family away!" Maybe that was an explanation but I'd like to see a storyline telling what happened to the kids.
From a LITERARY STANDPOINT it has elements of 3,4 and 5. 3: Adonis has gotten "soft" in a manner similar to what happened to Rocky in Rocky 3 and Damien, like Clubber Lang in Rocky 3 is much more "hungry" and is taking advantage of Adoni's being more "soft". Damien could not have beaten the version of Adonis who beat Viktor since Viktor is much tougher than Damien just as Clubber Lang could not have beaten the version of Rocky who beat Apollo, as Apollo was superior to Clubber. 4: The story tie in since the son of Ivan, who killed his own father is helping him train. 5: Tommy Gunn was at first friends with Rocky but turns against him and betrays him at a later time and Damien was once friends with Adonis but later on turns against and betrays him.
Basically turn this into a big fictional universe, Just as Marvel has their shared movie universe it could be the "Rockyverse". What about the extreme prequel where its the early 1920s and MICKEY is a young boxer in his prime and he is the main character?
@@Zurround now seeing a young Mick and the early 20s of boxing would be something nice! ESPECIALLY if they cast someone as Rocky Marciano since him and Mick were rivals turned friends
All this is looking great. I'm most excited to know that Viktor Drago is returning and that he is not the opponent this time. I'm hopeful that his relationship with Adonis can evolve into a 'brothers-in-arms' type of thing. Sort of like Apollo and Rocky in Rocky III. I really hope Viktor's role is more than a cameo.
I posted on another thread that a good plot device to explain why Viktor wants to help Adonis could be that he sees old footage of the tragic death of Apollo in Rocky 4 and he even sees his father saying "if he dies, he dies". Viktor is horrified that his father could be so heartless as to show no sympathy or concern after beating a person to death and when he confronts his father about it his father is full of regret and admits that in his youth he had been brainwashed by a corrupt government and groomed to not value human life and to especially hate Americans and years later when he attained his individuality he regretted the man he had once been. Viktor decides to help Adonis as a way of atoning for his father's sins even though it was not his fault.
@@Zurround Such a course of action could go a long way in not only restoring honor to the name of "Drago" but also showing just what kind of a man Viktor is.
@@anthonyscarpa6107 That might be addressed in the movie. Its kind of hard to hate a person for something that predated their birth by 5 years. Its not his fault what his father did.
From a literary standpoint yes, he is "hungry" and like Clubber served time in prison and might be taking advantage of Adonis getting 'soft" like clubber did with Rocky. (No way he is beating the version of him that beat Viktor Drago, as Viktor was in my opinion more formidable than Damian) but like Tommy Gunn he is someone who is friends with the protagonist at first but then turns against him. However, it does not seem like the same LEVEL of betrayal and evil as Tommy Gunn and unlike Tommy he has a REASON to hate and resent Adonis, while Tommy had no fair reason to hate Rocky AT ALL. So I am hoping for a happier ending for Damian, maybe some reconciliation between him and Adonis.
I noticed Vicktor in the trailer and it only makes sense that he trains Donnie bc Damian will know his fighting style, so Donnie will need something different to bring to the fight.
That is another callback to Rocky 3 where Apollo changed up the training routine from what Mickey had done with him to make him less predictable to Clubber. He looked MORE buffed than in Creed 2. He was ordered to actually SLIM DOWN for Creed 2 because he was so buffed that the strength difference between him and Mike B Jordan was absurd and they were worried audiences would not be able to suspend their disbelief. With that restriction gone he probably buffed himself back up.
im soooo glad Johnathen majors is in this movie...he seriously brought it as a villian as he has done as Kang in Marvel..i know this movie will not dissapoint
I wonder if Viktor will get his own spinoff as a protagonist? He and Dolph Lungren said that they wanted to do a movie together back when they filmed Creed 2. I would love to see that.
Reminds me of Rocky 5 when Rocky taught his son to box so that he could beat up the bullies who were tormenting him (they ended up becoming his friends). Maybe because she is deaf some other kids bully her and he is teaching her boxing so that she can defend herself. Bullying is always bad but targeting a handicapped person for bullying is a whole new level of evil.
Writers are so talented man who would’ve thought rocky with all the sequels could have a spin-off with many sequels following and so they’ve all been decent family movies. Can’t wait to go catch this in theater love how Creed legacy is going I saw his daughter hitting the bag in a trailer so that’s another spinoff eventually very dope!
Dolph Lungren and Florian Monatou both talked about doing a spinoff movie where Viktor is the main hero together on a talk show back when they filmed Creed 2 but I have yet to see it.
Yeah, there were talks about this last year but Stallone came out and said that he had nothing to do with the project and it was a cash grab by MGM. Dolph initially thought that the film had Stallone's involvement and said no details are confirmed yet as far as script, director, etc. So hard to say, especially since Stallone is still not too happy about Creed continuing because of Irwin Winkler still being involved.
@@StryfetheWarrior There is a proverb from Abraham Lincoln about the American civil war: A house divided upon itself cannot stand. If a group of people working on a complicated project (with the war its running a government with this its filming movies) are in conflict with and pissed at each other its majorly going to subtract from the quality of the works. If there are more movies in this franchise they won't be as good with internal conflicts like this if they happen at all. Sad.
@xin3648 that possibly could be hinted from Creed two because remember Ivan Drago goes wife left him and she's remarried to another man so she could possibly have a new son who's hate for Dragos runs deep but.
imagine this: viktor: DAMN IT! what're you doing creed!? adonis: tomorrow... we'll do it tomorrow. viktor in Russian: there is no tomorrow! THERE is no TOMORROW!!
Glad to hear the son of Drago is part of this movie. We need more of Drago and his son's struggles in their war torn country Ukraine. That remains to be seen and enjoyed.
GREAT VIDEO. I love how you made a theory that Felix Chavez could die in the ring. I thought the same thing. Finally someone else with the same theory.
I don't think they kill him, but hurt him Permanent as Mickey would say, But it does look like Mary Anne dies, which is where Rocky could have at least cameoed at the funeral. Shame Sly aint in this.
Who the hell is "Felix Chavez" and YES I saw the scene in the preview but how do you know his NAME? Was he a close friend of Adonis? An interesting twist to help keep the preview from being too revealing is Felix not dying but having to be hospitalized for a while and the funeral is for ROCKY...
They were dropped and forgotten about. Instead of making apollo a womanizer the little boy from rocky 4 should have been adonis and Claire should have been the wife not a side piece
@@jplaya2023 That would've given Adonis no problems. No one wants to see a Nepo baby in a mansion, getting trained by Rocky the ultimate underdog; plus, the sequels? They'd have run out of road by now.;
This looks really good, there's a similarity between Clubber lang and Damian, but lang was a mean fighter, and Damian it's Just cruel and Evil, capable of cheap boxing tricks to win, that is my take on his boxing style, and I'm a boxer there is some shade stuff that one can do during a match.
I am curious who you would put your money on in a fight between Damian and Clubber if there was some magical way of pitting a version of Clubber that is the same age against Damien since obviously he is a senior citizen now.
@@Zurround great question not knowing Damian style of fighting it’s hard to tell , lang was a brutal force with his power punches not much of jabber if I remember correctly, as far Damian to be a boxer outside of prison he had to be boxer inside of the prison as well but there’s not lots of time to trained inside I would assume , for me all of his fights on the outside got to be brutal e and fast , so my money go to Damian what I don’t understand it’s why Creed needs Drago to help him he went 10 rounds with him in creed 2 , he doesn’t need help but hey it’s a movie .
I feel like Damien is gonna be whooping Donnie throughout the majority of the fight.. kinda like drago was in creed II, and then Donnie will start coming back towards the end. I’m calling it
You know what might be more interesting? If they are a perfectly even match with it going both ways evenly and at the end the judges are flabbergasted because it was so even that they cannot pick a winner and are forced to call the fight a DRAW. Draws are very rare in boxing but every so often they do happen and it could be the first time in this franchise that a fight shown on screen (as opposed to something where a boxer's past record is mentioned and might have shown a draw). The fighting ending with them officially being declared a perfectly even match would be cool. If I had written the first Rocky movie I would have had it end in a draw and in Rocky 2 instead of being the "rematch of the century" it would have been the "tie breaker of the century". A draw would still have left Apollo the champ and my "alternate universe" idea would have had very little effect on the overall plot structure of the first 2 films.
Problem with that is that the ONLY fight Damian should lose (even that is debatable to be honest) is against ADONIS. Damian would get destroyed by Drago. By conventional standards Damian is a total badass and I would not dare eff with him but um.. if you extrapolate back to their respective primes Viktor is the 2nd strongest boxer in sheer raw power and ferocity, 2nd only to a prime version of his own father in the entire franchise going all the way back to 1976. Adonis had plot armor and sheer force of will and maybe the best trainer in the world (for the fictional world of the "Rockyverse") and he took A LOT of damage before finally getting his victory. Even if Damian won which is very doubtful he would have to go through Hell to pull it off and then he would be too damaged to have an advantage over Adonis, unless he had some months to recover. He would have better odds than Clubber Lang would have against Ivan but I still think Damien loses. Viktor is just too damned tough.
Good idea to bring Drago back. The fans liked him and There is obviously significant history with the Drago name so Rocky fans appreciate maintaining the historical continuity of the Rocky franchise
To me what's bound to happen is... Creed will fight Conlan in a rematch, beat him and being that he'd avenged his only loss and been fighting for a good while at this point, he then retires. Damian then fights Drago for the vacant belt of which Damian wins and is why he is shown with the titles in the trailer. He will then push and prod Creed who will come out of retirement to fight Damian.
If you look closely at one point in the new trailer, you see someone wrapping up Donnie's hands before the fight. The hands appear to be those of an older white man. Since we know Rocky isn't among the cast, maybe it was Ivan? Once this man is finished, the camera pans up and boom! There's Ivan with that classic "you must break him" look that only he can deliver? In that (unfairly) deleted locker room scene from Creed 2, it appeared as though Donnie had developed some level of respect for the Dragos despite Ivan killing his father. Perhaps Ivan and Viktor are helping Donnie out with training for this fight as a way of making amends with the past? All just speculation on my part, but that's something I'd love to see!
@@TotsNater With Stallone missing, I am really hoping you are right and Dolph Lungren is secretly involved in this movie. I am hopeful that since there is really nothing for him left in Russia, Ivan will remain in the States to continue training Viktor, and agrees to help train Donnie with Duke, Jr. for his bout against Damien. That would really tie in this film with the previous ones. And I agree, that Creed 2 deleted locker room scene should have been in the movie 100%!
Easter Egg 🥚 Damian leaning on Donnie's car is a call back to Rocky 5 when Tommy Gunn was leaning on George Washington Duke's car, waiting on an opportunity to talk to Rocky about training him! G.W. Duke tells Tommy that his car isn't a park bench!
As as boxing fan and also a lover of Rocky franchise, I'm counting the days to go to cinema and watch creed 3. I think that final match is gonna be awesome and a bloody war.
I think Damian may kill Felix in their bout. Those looks from Adonis and the audience are way past "concern" and are well into sheer horror(person in the yellow at 5:04). And as was said in the video, that is a lot of blood on the refs shirt. That amount of blood loss means Damian will apply some type of irreversible damage to Felix.
What does Victor Creed's character have to gain from helping Adonis? Is this some kind of Nod to the idea of when Apollo helped train Rocky after a loss.
How is this for a plot device? Maybe Viktor is watching old video footage of his father's fights during his father's youth in the mid 1980s and he sees the fight from Rocky 4 and he confronts his father and angrily tells his father that he is ashamed to be the son of a man who would kill someone in the ring and show no remorse or concern and say "If he dies, he dies". and maybe Ivan has some self reflection and admits that what he did was wrong and tells his son that in his youth he had been brainwashed by his corrupt government to not value human life and to especially hate Americans and that he is no longer that kind of a person and killing Apollo is something that he came to regret. Then Viktor suggests that they do something to help Creed's family as a way to atone and Ivan does not want any part in that as he wants to let sleeping dogs lie so Viktor decides to do it on his father's behalf and becomes one of Adonis's trainers.
There's a deleted scene in Creed II that IIRC was originally in the trailers where Adonis told Drago that they're worth more than 1 fight (basically saying their lives aren't made of the rivalry their families had). Adonis also subtly forgives Ivan, and Ivan and Rocky essentially bury the hatchet. It's a shame the scene was cut from the movie because it also adds even more depth to the Dragos. I talked about it a bit in my Ivan video.
We 100% need a Drago spin off not Viktor as Donies spare partner Damien vs Charvez < Ivan vs Apollo, Adonis vs Conlon rematch < Rocky Apollo rematch, Damien in jail < Clubber in jail and Tommys aggressive spare > Damien’s aggressive spare, it’s a great sequel but far from its own creation story wise.
One thing i want to see that we might not is donnie talking to apollo's 2 other children, after all this time they have to know about the brother they never knew existed becoming a boxing champion but also might feel some anger and resentment because they were maybe pushed aside as apollo's "other children" and maybe don't have as strong of a connection with Mary Anne like Adonis does which is ironic as those 2 would be considered Apollo's "legitimate" children
Kind of odd that his now middle aged children first shown briefly in Rocky 1 were not really even shown again. I don't even think I saw them at his funeral but its hard to tell since I might have just failed to recognize their faces. Its almost like they got retconned out.
@@Zurround they were also in rocky 2 and when apallo mentions how badly his loss to rocky hurt him in Rocky 3 he says "I didn't want to know from nothing or nobody not even my kids" also if you found out you had a sibling that you never knew existed for about 30+ years much less one that is carrying your dead fathers father's literal legacy I'd imagine you'd have some strong feelings about that
MBJ is a cornball for doing this movie without Stallone. This is a character Sly created and now Jordan is trying to make this film about himself and his universe. There should be no Rocky franchise without Sly, and Stallone himself has stated he will never watch this film.
Stallone decided himself to not appear in Creed III but now regrets that decision. However, I'm not sure if he even would re-appear due to Irwin Winkler's continued involvement.
@@StryfetheWarrior MBJ could have very well said, "If Stallone is not going to be in this movie, neither will I." But Jordan showed his true colors. They probably dangled a carrot in front of him, promising that he could direct if he returned, and he bit.
I can't help but think that the idea of Viktor sparring with Donnie came from Shane Moseley being tapped to Spar with Oscar Dela Hoya to prepare for Mayweather. Oscar had 2 difficult fights with Shane Moseley on which the former lost both times. Coming into the Mayweather fight, Oscar had a nearly 2-year layoff. He already had injuries and was busy being a promoter. He did KO Mayorga coming into the fight though. But Mayweather was virtually undefeatable so to prepare, he brought in the opponent who he taught knew his weaknesses the most
I think a really beautiful way to end the story is this: Adonis's former friend is actually WINNING the fight and is ahead in score but in the final round Adonis even though he is losing gets in just the right combination of punches and similar to what happened with Conlan back in 2015 his opponent is knocked out and the bell rings but he still has to get up (no save by the bell). Adonis sees his former closest childhood friend unable to get up. During the 10 count he keeps trying (he is not fully unconscious but very badly shaken up) and when there are only a few seconds left Adonis runs up to him and lifts him into a standing position despite the illegality of such an action. The referee and the judges don't know how to handle the situation since he had HELP getting up which is cheating but it happened technically against his will and Adonis is the one who violated the rules. They decide that the fairest thing to do is count it as a knockout where the fighter successfully got up before the 10 count. They then add up total score and even though Adonis won the final round from administering the knockout his former friend had a lead before that happened and when the scores are tallied Adonis loses by 1 point. Adonis loses his title but his former friend, who wanted revenge on him ends up fully forgiving Adonis and their friendship is renewed.
that sounds stupid as shit. the whole premise of this universe is about the main character being the underdog. even when theyre on top ( rocky 3 and 4, creed 2) theyre still facing someone more hungry or more dangerous. although rocky and apollo become friends, and ivan drago shows his respect for rockys ability to keep getting up after devastating blows, none of those characters would risk winning the fight to " help a friend". i could see donnie losing the fight just outright and admitting that damian was always the better fighter, or donnie winning the fight and damian accepting hes the better fighter now and maybe joins his camp or something. i mean it appears damian killed or badly injured an associate of donnies. it would be very out of the rocky/creed universe for this hallmark channel ending of yours to fit after some shit like that. mickey dies, rocky trains harder and whoops clubber lang. apollo dies, rocky trains like crazy and beats drago... donnies friend/protege dies or becomes maimed, so donnie risks losing to help his old friend get up at the end of the fight??? hahahaha fuck out of here. they can make up after a winner is declared by traditional means
@@Zurround it was 7 before I gave you a thumbs down, so I did notice. And I didn't insult you, but clearly you feeling attacked would explain why you think that stupid ass idea would be a fitting end to the movie. You're soft
@@gdirty7380 I am curious and I am being hypothetical because I doubt this is how it will end but if I had predicted correctly and the movie DID end this way would you then take back your comments about my comment or double down and get annoyed at the movie itself and insult the movie for having such a sappy ending? Something similar happened in the movie GRUDGE MATCH with Stallone and DeNero which was a boxing movie with the same actors as Rocky and Raging bull. So my idea is not totally unprecendented in movies.
Hopefully Viktor will not get beaten to death by some giant monster and Adonis will be morally obligated to avenge him and win but only with a lot of difficulty leading to permanent brain damage and disability. Let's hope history does not repeat itself.
I can't wait I already see the seeds being planned for his daughter to possibly take the mantle next tho I was hoping for rocky grandson but that's probably further in the future
Not possible. I do not mean to sound prejudiced against handicapped people but there are LOGISTICAL problems with a deaf person being a boxer. Its not safe to be unable to hear the bell ring or be unable to hear instructions from the referee. Rocky taught his own son to box so that he could defend himself from bullies but his son never grew up to be a pro boxer. I think he is teaching it to her so that she can defend herself from bullies.
Would work better as a BOOK or NOVEL. This fictional universe was never expanded that way the way other fictional universes were like Star Wars, Star Trek and Alien/Predator.
Donnie retired 3 years ago in the movie which is why Stephen A. mentioned that he was P4P then. Sooooo…..what does Donnie have that Dame wants so bad if he’s retired? Especially since Dame already has a title belt when he tells Donnie that he’s coming for it all. What is so coveted and what does Donnie have to lose? Guess that we have to wait until 3/3
Ill give it a chance, but wow just from the trailers its following a lot of the Rocky 3 and 4 beats which isn't a bad thing, it works. Just wish Sly was in it and there wasn't so much bad blood between him and the studio. I will say that i didn't like Creed 2 and they missed a few opportunity's there. so we shall see with this.
I had that theory since I knew Drago would be in the movie!! AMD I was right ✅️ 😎 but I think also Drago senior will train him because he needs his redemption for killing Apollo!!! Can't wait to see them in his corner P.s does anybody know why the new guy called Creed , little brother 🤔
I just realized something, in Rocky 1 & 2, Rocky fought Apollo, in Rocky 3, Apollo trained Rocky and in Rocky 4, Apollo died so this may mean that Drago dies in the next film if there is one which I think I heard something about that
@@carlosmontes9679 I am 100% certain he killed him. The referee was covered in blood and look how Adonis reacted.He reacted like he learned something terrible,obviously he already knew he was knockef out badly. For him to make that face the doctors must have said he was dead
I think that Damion is coming back from being in a jail cell for 15 years to tell the whole world that Adonis is a coward and a fraud who put him in the jail cell for 15 years so that Adonis doesn’t deserves to have the name and to be the champion of the world so Damion is going to come for it all but at the end of the movie i think Adonis an Damion are going to have a deep conversation and become friends again
It would have to make sense, though. Lang did have animosity towards Apollo, but since Lang never re-appeared in the franchise I'm not sure if it'll ever happen. I remember rumors that was the original direction for Creed III.
I am happy about the appearance of Florian Munteanu because he is Romanian, he considers himself Romanian even though he lives in Germany and whenever he has the opportunity he appears with the Romanian flag ... his appearance in Creed 2 his past ... the way he was manipulated by his parents he even put addonis in the shade ..realistically speaking, there was no way he could win in creed 2 adonis ...it's about disproportionate strength, height, etc.
No Creed III spoilers! Anything discussed in the video is fair game.
I am looking forward to seeing some MORAL AMBIGUITY. Instead of "hero" vs "villain". A more complicated relationship story than the generic plots of some of the other Rocky movies where you just have a "good guy" and "bad guy". His former friend might to a degree be JUSTIFIED with his resentments and Adonis has some sins in his past he is not a "saint".
I wish Stallone had reprized his role as Rocky to help train and mentor Adonis again. You know what would have been a neat callback? If Rocky makes Adonis fly with him to RUSSIA and the same part of Russia where he trained in Rocky 3 and when Adonis asks why Rocky says to him (or something similar). "Back in 1985 when I had to fight the father of Viktor Drago I trained here and this environment helped to mold me into the toughest fighter I had ever been. I was pushing 40 years old and was past my prime then but I had more strength and endurance after training here than I had had even in my youth. I plan to make you do everything I had to do to beat Ivan". Then have a training montage where Adonis is shown doing most of the same exercises rocky did in Rocky 4 with maybe a few changes to keep it from looking exactly the same.
I kind of suspect that Apollo would have beaten Clubber Lang had they fought in Rocky 3. Rocky had possibly evolved beyond Apollo, symbolized by winning the race on the beach, and maybe Apollo would have lost to Rocky had they fought again (I won't count that "secret" fight. It was a friendly point scoring sparring match. No way they would go all out brutal without the supervision of a doctor and referee) but Rocky beat Clubber pretty easily, knocking him out in the 3rd round and not getting badly hurt (compared to his other major fights). So maybe being somewhat inferior overall to Rocky now (but only a little bit) he would have taken more damage and it would have taken more rounds to pull it off but likely Apollo still would have won.
I really am not buying the villain in Creed 3 being able to beat Viktor. Yes he is a tough badass and I would not mess with him but he just does not at all look like he has the power of Viktor, who is (if you compare PRIMES) the 2nd strongest in sheer raw power (not necessarily skill, Apollo beats him in that category) for the entire franchise, 2nd only to his own father. So the way I see it Adonis is fighting a LESS dangerous opponent than the 2nd movie.
You know what might be cool for Creed 4? I kind of got the idea from Undisputed 2 starring Michael Jai White. Boxing is getting a tad "dated" as a martial art since MMA is more versatile allowing attacks not used in boxing like kicks, elbow strikes, and wrestling,grappling techniques. It would be interesting if Adonis had to fight a world class MMA fighter and maybe was winning at first, pounding away at the guy with his superior punches and then his luck runs out when he is attacked in a way that he was never trained to defend against. Maybe the MMA villain kicks him brutally hard in the legs and then tackles him with grappling techniques that he was never trained to defend against since its not allowed in boxing and like Mike Jai White in Undisputed 2 Adonis has to take a crash course in MMA to rematch the guy. Maybe the guy taunts him in the media, admitting that he lost the boxing match but that boxing is a sham and does not prove someone is a superior fighter since in a real fight there is so much else a person can do so Adonis trains very hard in MMA and using it to supplement his boxing he manages to win a rematch but is still the underdog since he is not as experienced as the villain (another similarity to Undisputed 2, but without prison of course).
The one aspect I was hoping II delved into was the 2 legitimate Creed children from Rocky II. In the opening scene of Creed I, Mary Ann said, "I pushed family away!" Maybe that was an explanation but I'd like to see a storyline telling what happened to the kids.
Victor being Adonis's training partner like Apollo Creed was to Rocky is _damn_ charming.
Agreed
i like this . and hope in the next film they will team u together with Rocky to beat somenone else
I like that Victor and Adonis are friends. Shows great character, forgiveness, and caring for each other. That’s good to see.
It’s like Apollo and Rocky in Rocky III after mickeys death
Break out the violin 😂
Am I the only true boxing fan when D said Adonis won't even make weight,there's no weight limit for heavy weights they messed up on that one 😂
Viktor, passing words of wisdom to Adonis..."You must break him...he will lose!".
That'd be epic if he says that in the movie!
@@StryfetheWarrior Obviously, it won't...us Rocky fans can still dream though!
Nah that would've been cool actually. Something Stallone would've kept up.
I can see that happening. Would be awesome
I can’t honestly see Viktor saying that, he may be a tank raised in hate but he’s more chill and noble than his dad was
Seems like a mixture of Rocky III and IV. Drago looks like he might be a friend to Adonis now and helps him train for Damien. I love this!!
Agreed!
@@StryfetheWarrior yo do one of who would win video
@@StryfetheWarrior yo
Looks like a classic enemy to friend for Drago, and Damian becomes a friend to enemy.
From a LITERARY STANDPOINT it has elements of 3,4 and 5. 3: Adonis has gotten "soft" in a manner similar to what happened to Rocky in Rocky 3 and Damien, like Clubber Lang in Rocky 3 is much more "hungry" and is taking advantage of Adoni's being more "soft". Damien could not have beaten the version of Adonis who beat Viktor since Viktor is much tougher than Damien just as Clubber Lang could not have beaten the version of Rocky who beat Apollo, as Apollo was superior to Clubber.
4: The story tie in since the son of Ivan, who killed his own father is helping him train.
5: Tommy Gunn was at first friends with Rocky but turns against him and betrays him at a later time and Damien was once friends with Adonis but later on turns against and betrays him.
We need a Drago spin off, a Damian spin off, and a story of a new boxer who’s looking at a shot for the heavyweight title
Basically turn this into a big fictional universe, Just as Marvel has their shared movie universe it could be the "Rockyverse". What about the extreme prequel where its the early 1920s and MICKEY is a young boxer in his prime and he is the main character?
@@Zurround now seeing a young Mick and the early 20s of boxing would be something nice! ESPECIALLY if they cast someone as Rocky Marciano since him and Mick were rivals turned friends
@@Zurround the rockyverse would be awesome. hashtag that!
You must be a fan of Fast and Furious?
The characters of the Rockyverse are so big that most of them could have prequels or spinoffs
Mick prequel
Apollo prequel
Ivan & Viktor Drago spinoff
All this is looking great. I'm most excited to know that Viktor Drago is returning and that he is not the opponent this time. I'm hopeful that his relationship with Adonis can evolve into a 'brothers-in-arms' type of thing. Sort of like Apollo and Rocky in Rocky III. I really hope Viktor's role is more than a cameo.
I posted on another thread that a good plot device to explain why Viktor wants to help Adonis could be that he sees old footage of the tragic death of Apollo in Rocky 4 and he even sees his father saying "if he dies, he dies". Viktor is horrified that his father could be so heartless as to show no sympathy or concern after beating a person to death and when he confronts his father about it his father is full of regret and admits that in his youth he had been brainwashed by a corrupt government and groomed to not value human life and to especially hate Americans and years later when he attained his individuality he regretted the man he had once been. Viktor decides to help Adonis as a way of atoning for his father's sins even though it was not his fault.
@@Zurround Such a course of action could go a long way in not only restoring honor to the name of "Drago" but also showing just what kind of a man Viktor is.
It's kinda weird for Adonis to be cool with Viktor knowing his father killed his .. But that's the movies for ya
@@anthonyscarpa6107 That might be addressed in the movie. Its kind of hard to hate a person for something that predated their birth by 5 years. Its not his fault what his father did.
@@Zurround Fair point but 🤷
Damian seems to be like a hybrid between Clubber-Lang & Tommy Gunn.
From a literary standpoint yes, he is "hungry" and like Clubber served time in prison and might be taking advantage of Adonis getting 'soft" like clubber did with Rocky. (No way he is beating the version of him that beat Viktor Drago, as Viktor was in my opinion more formidable than Damian) but like Tommy Gunn he is someone who is friends with the protagonist at first but then turns against him.
However, it does not seem like the same LEVEL of betrayal and evil as Tommy Gunn and unlike Tommy he has a REASON to hate and resent Adonis, while Tommy had no fair reason to hate Rocky AT ALL. So I am hoping for a happier ending for Damian, maybe some reconciliation between him and Adonis.
Agreed
@@StryfetheWarrior yo do a video of who would won johnny kk1 vs kk2 chozen
@@StryfetheWarrior my idea is nice i heard they we're gonna do that b4 majors got it
Clubber Lang was Brutal Rocky 3 is Fav one out the whole series
I noticed Vicktor in the trailer and it only makes sense that he trains Donnie bc Damian will know his fighting style, so Donnie will need something different to bring to the fight.
That is another callback to Rocky 3 where Apollo changed up the training routine from what Mickey had done with him to make him less predictable to Clubber. He looked MORE buffed than in Creed 2. He was ordered to actually SLIM DOWN for Creed 2 because he was so buffed that the strength difference between him and Mike B Jordan was absurd and they were worried audiences would not be able to suspend their disbelief. With that restriction gone he probably buffed himself back up.
I would love to see a Viktor Drago trilogy with him as a good guy.
That would be cool
Same here especially since the Russia/Ukraine war
im soooo glad Johnathen majors is in this movie...he seriously brought it as a villian as he has done as Kang in Marvel..i know this movie will not dissapoint
This'll be my first time seeing him in any role I think, so I'm excited
I wonder if Viktor will get his own spinoff as a protagonist? He and Dolph Lungren said that they wanted to do a movie together back when they filmed Creed 2. I would love to see that.
It was actually Teased by them in one interview when asked if their would be a Viktor spin-off and Florian said he couldn't say much yet
I'd like to see that too. The Dragos are both worth a spinoff
Why the fuck should he have a spin off? That would be wack
@@mriyefa2196 No they should not get a spin off
According to rumors, there is a spinoff coming...
The Relationship Between Adonis & His Daughter Amara Is One Of My Most Anticipated Aspects Of Creed 3.
Reminds me of Rocky 5 when Rocky taught his son to box so that he could beat up the bullies who were tormenting him (they ended up becoming his friends). Maybe because she is deaf some other kids bully her and he is teaching her boxing so that she can defend herself. Bullying is always bad but targeting a handicapped person for bullying is a whole new level of evil.
Probably the best creed movie and a must watch this year.
It was excellent
Writers are so talented man who would’ve thought rocky with all the sequels could have a spin-off with many sequels following and so they’ve all been decent family movies. Can’t wait to go catch this in theater love how Creed legacy is going I saw his daughter hitting the bag in a trailer so that’s another spinoff eventually very dope!
I'm excited for it personally
It might get as big as Star Wars some day
Dolph Lungren and Florian Monatou both talked about doing a spinoff movie where Viktor is the main hero together on a talk show back when they filmed Creed 2 but I have yet to see it.
That's awesome dude. What they said next?
Yeah, there were talks about this last year but Stallone came out and said that he had nothing to do with the project and it was a cash grab by MGM. Dolph initially thought that the film had Stallone's involvement and said no details are confirmed yet as far as script, director, etc. So hard to say, especially since Stallone is still not too happy about Creed continuing because of Irwin Winkler still being involved.
@@StryfetheWarrior There is a proverb from Abraham Lincoln about the American civil war: A house divided upon itself cannot stand. If a group of people working on a complicated project (with the war its running a government with this its filming movies) are in conflict with and pissed at each other its majorly going to subtract from the quality of the works. If there are more movies in this franchise they won't be as good with internal conflicts like this if they happen at all. Sad.
It would be cool for the Ivan ex wife to have another child and its trained the same way as Ivan in the og rocky and Viktor eventually fights him
@xin3648 that possibly could be hinted from Creed two because remember Ivan Drago goes wife left him and she's remarried to another man so she could possibly have a new son who's hate for Dragos runs deep but.
Creed 3 is Looking like its filled with callbacks to Rocky 3, 4 and 5.
This was a great breakdown. March 3rd can't get here fast enough!!
Thank you!
imagine this:
viktor: DAMN IT! what're you doing creed!?
adonis: tomorrow... we'll do it tomorrow.
viktor in Russian: there is no tomorrow! THERE is no TOMORROW!!
That would be an amazing callback
I’m so ready for this! That’s gonna be fckn wild seeing them together.
Brilliant break down. Thank you!
Thank you!
Glad to hear the son of Drago is part of this movie. We need more of Drago and his son's struggles in their war torn country Ukraine. That remains to be seen and enjoyed.
GREAT VIDEO. I love how you made a theory that Felix Chavez could die in the ring. I thought the same thing. Finally someone else with the same theory.
Its pretty obvious.
The referee is covered in blood and you can tell by Adonis expression he just understood Felix was dead
Thank you!
I don't think they kill him, but hurt him Permanent as Mickey would say, But it does look like Mary Anne dies, which is where Rocky could have at least cameoed at the funeral. Shame Sly aint in this.
Who the hell is "Felix Chavez" and YES I saw the scene in the preview but how do you know his NAME? Was he a close friend of Adonis?
An interesting twist to help keep the preview from being too revealing is Felix not dying but having to be hospitalized for a while and the funeral is for ROCKY...
@@Zurround Rocky isn’t in this movie.
Even though Drago's father killed Adonis father I love how they became friends in this movie...
Can't wait to see this!
The movie hasn’t come out but I already love Damien, I could understand his hunger. He will run through anyone to reach his dreams!!
So Damian is to Adonis what Clubber Lang was to Rocky and Drago is Apollo Creed!
Great video. I'm going to see the movie on Monday. Hey Stryfe, who did your merchandise? I'm looking into getting my own going as well.
Teespring!
I’d like to see what happened to Apollos other children, I’d like to see a creed vs creed in the future
They were dropped and forgotten about. Instead of making apollo a womanizer the little boy from rocky 4 should have been adonis and Claire should have been the wife not a side piece
Yeah, it kinda bothered me that they weren't really talked about at all, considering they did exist.
@@StryfetheWarrior EXACTLY, I would love to see some sibling rivalry and beef especially between brothers and how his wife had to raise 3 of his kids
@@jplaya2023 That would've given Adonis no problems. No one wants to see a Nepo baby in a mansion, getting trained by Rocky the ultimate underdog; plus, the sequels? They'd have run out of road by now.;
@@tkaipope3649 why? smh weird. To brothers try 2 kill each other is cool? smh stupid
Thanks for being the only person to break down the movie Ive been looking for atudd to watch about creed 3
Thank you!
@Stryfe the Warrior like you did from mike vs miguel do one for kk1 johnny vs kk2 chozen
@@phillipjohson KK2 Chozen is way stronger and tougher and more skilled than KK1 Johnny. Its no contest.
@@Zurround whatever
This looks really good, there's a similarity between Clubber lang and Damian, but lang was a mean fighter, and Damian it's Just cruel and Evil, capable of cheap boxing tricks to win, that is my take on his boxing style, and I'm a boxer there is some shade stuff that one can do during a match.
I'm excited for it!
I am curious who you would put your money on in a fight between Damian and Clubber if there was some magical way of pitting a version of Clubber that is the same age against Damien since obviously he is a senior citizen now.
@@Zurround great question not knowing Damian style of fighting it’s hard to tell , lang was a brutal force with his power punches not much of jabber if I remember correctly, as far Damian to be a boxer outside of prison he had to be boxer inside of the prison as well but there’s not lots of time to trained inside I would assume , for me all of his fights on the outside got to be brutal e and fast , so my money go to Damian what I don’t understand it’s why Creed needs Drago to help him he went 10 rounds with him in creed 2 , he doesn’t need help but hey it’s a movie .
I feel like Damien is gonna be whooping Donnie throughout the majority of the fight.. kinda like drago was in creed II, and then Donnie will start coming back towards the end. I’m calling it
You know what might be more interesting? If they are a perfectly even match with it going both ways evenly and at the end the judges are flabbergasted because it was so even that they cannot pick a winner and are forced to call the fight a DRAW. Draws are very rare in boxing but every so often they do happen and it could be the first time in this franchise that a fight shown on screen (as opposed to something where a boxer's past record is mentioned and might have shown a draw). The fighting ending with them officially being declared a perfectly even match would be cool. If I had written the first Rocky movie I would have had it end in a draw and in Rocky 2 instead of being the "rematch of the century" it would have been the "tie breaker of the century". A draw would still have left Apollo the champ and my "alternate universe" idea would have had very little effect on the overall plot structure of the first 2 films.
I wish we would see Drago fight Damian, that'd be badass
It'd be an interesting matchup.
Problem with that is that the ONLY fight Damian should lose (even that is debatable to be honest) is against ADONIS. Damian would get destroyed by Drago. By conventional standards Damian is a total badass and I would not dare eff with him but um.. if you extrapolate back to their respective primes Viktor is the 2nd strongest boxer in sheer raw power and ferocity, 2nd only to a prime version of his own father in the entire franchise going all the way back to 1976. Adonis had plot armor and sheer force of will and maybe the best trainer in the world (for the fictional world of the "Rockyverse") and he took A LOT of damage before finally getting his victory. Even if Damian won which is very doubtful he would have to go through Hell to pull it off and then he would be too damaged to have an advantage over Adonis, unless he had some months to recover. He would have better odds than Clubber Lang would have against Ivan but I still think Damien loses. Viktor is just too damned tough.
Good idea to bring Drago back. The fans liked him and There is obviously significant history with the Drago name so Rocky fans appreciate maintaining the historical continuity of the Rocky franchise
Agreed
Yeah. Good idea because YT folk have a hard time identifying with a black protagonist.
I can’t wait for this movie to come out! Creed 3 is going to be a good one from what I see in the trailers
They will probably add the deleted locker room scene from Creed 2 with Donnie and Drago to the beginning of Creed 3 to show how they made amends.
I hope so
Drago will probably train him because in Rocky III when mick dies apollo trains rocky and i dont think rocky is in creed III and same number so maybe?
Watched it tonight, absolutely brilliant, my only critism is the final fight was very short
To me what's bound to happen is... Creed will fight Conlan in a rematch, beat him and being that he'd avenged his only loss and been fighting for a good while at this point, he then retires. Damian then fights Drago for the vacant belt of which Damian wins and is why he is shown with the titles in the trailer. He will then push and prod Creed who will come out of retirement to fight Damian.
I think so too
Any word on whether Dolph Lundgren shows up in Creed 3, even in a Cameo type role?
If you look closely at one point in the new trailer, you see someone wrapping up Donnie's hands before the fight. The hands appear to be those of an older white man. Since we know Rocky isn't among the cast, maybe it was Ivan? Once this man is finished, the camera pans up and boom! There's Ivan with that classic "you must break him" look that only he can deliver?
In that (unfairly) deleted locker room scene from Creed 2, it appeared as though Donnie had developed some level of respect for the Dragos despite Ivan killing his father. Perhaps Ivan and Viktor are helping Donnie out with training for this fight as a way of making amends with the past?
All just speculation on my part, but that's something I'd love to see!
@@TotsNater With Stallone missing, I am really hoping you are right and Dolph Lungren is secretly involved in this movie. I am hopeful that since there is really nothing for him left in Russia, Ivan will remain in the States to continue training Viktor, and agrees to help train Donnie with Duke, Jr. for his bout against Damien. That would really tie in this film with the previous ones. And I agree, that Creed 2 deleted locker room scene should have been in the movie 100%!
It'd be cool! No confirmation yet.
Easter Egg 🥚
Damian leaning on Donnie's car is a call back to Rocky 5 when Tommy Gunn was leaning on George Washington Duke's car, waiting on an opportunity to talk to Rocky about training him! G.W. Duke tells Tommy that his car isn't a park bench!
Good eye!
Looking forward to watching the movie Im sure it will be great
As as boxing fan and also a lover of Rocky franchise, I'm counting the days to go to cinema and watch creed 3. I think that final match is gonna be awesome and a bloody war.
Agreed
I can see that. Drago son coming back, I can see this I hope they do this
I think Damian may kill Felix in their bout. Those looks from Adonis and the audience are way past "concern" and are well into sheer horror(person in the yellow at 5:04). And as was said in the video, that is a lot of blood on the refs shirt. That amount of blood loss means Damian will apply some type of irreversible damage to Felix.
Victor and Damien would be an intense fight that’s something I’d want to see 😰🫣
Agreed
@@StryfetheWarrior Acreed
Damien would get the crap beaten out of him. Victor is just too damned strong.
What does Victor Creed's character have to gain from helping Adonis? Is this some kind of Nod to the idea of when Apollo helped train Rocky after a loss.
Its like poetry,it rythmes
How is this for a plot device? Maybe Viktor is watching old video footage of his father's fights during his father's youth in the mid 1980s and he sees the fight from Rocky 4 and he confronts his father and angrily tells his father that he is ashamed to be the son of a man who would kill someone in the ring and show no remorse or concern and say "If he dies, he dies". and maybe Ivan has some self reflection and admits that what he did was wrong and tells his son that in his youth he had been brainwashed by his corrupt government to not value human life and to especially hate Americans and that he is no longer that kind of a person and killing Apollo is something that he came to regret. Then Viktor suggests that they do something to help Creed's family as a way to atone and Ivan does not want any part in that as he wants to let sleeping dogs lie so Viktor decides to do it on his father's behalf and becomes one of Adonis's trainers.
They made up in the deleted scenes
There's a deleted scene in Creed II that IIRC was originally in the trailers where Adonis told Drago that they're worth more than 1 fight (basically saying their lives aren't made of the rivalry their families had). Adonis also subtly forgives Ivan, and Ivan and Rocky essentially bury the hatchet. It's a shame the scene was cut from the movie because it also adds even more depth to the Dragos. I talked about it a bit in my Ivan video.
@@StryfetheWarrior Whoever made the decision to delete that scene from the final cut was an IDIOT.
My mosted anticipated movie of the year, scream 6 being a runner up
I would love to see an Adonis and victor relationship blossom like rocky and Apollo type relationship
Agreed
thank you for this viddeo!
Thank you!
So excited to see viktor. Great addition.
Agreed
Damm kang variants in creed too
Kilmonger variant also and valkrie
The scene where Donnie and Bianca are in black could most likely be Rockies funeral
I hope not
@@alw1268 sly said he’s not coming back so I think they’ll do a Micky thing where drago ends up being donnies training partner like in rocky 3
Can’t wait to see it
We 100% need a Drago spin off not Viktor as Donies spare partner Damien vs Charvez < Ivan vs Apollo, Adonis vs Conlon rematch < Rocky Apollo rematch, Damien in jail < Clubber in jail and Tommys aggressive spare > Damien’s aggressive spare, it’s a great sequel but far from its own creation story wise.
Man I can't wait
One thing i want to see that we might not is donnie talking to apollo's 2 other children, after all this time they have to know about the brother they never knew existed becoming a boxing champion but also might feel some anger and resentment because they were maybe pushed aside as apollo's "other children" and maybe don't have as strong of a connection with Mary Anne like Adonis does which is ironic as those 2 would be considered Apollo's "legitimate" children
Kind of odd that his now middle aged children first shown briefly in Rocky 1 were not really even shown again. I don't even think I saw them at his funeral but its hard to tell since I might have just failed to recognize their faces. Its almost like they got retconned out.
@@Zurround they were also in rocky 2 and when apallo mentions how badly his loss to rocky hurt him in Rocky 3 he says "I didn't want to know from nothing or nobody not even my kids" also if you found out you had a sibling that you never knew existed for about 30+ years much less one that is carrying your dead fathers father's literal legacy I'd imagine you'd have some strong feelings about that
Yeah I hope we see them interact in the future
Floiran were phenomenal as Drago. Shame that we barely have any clip with him.
I think there'll definitely be a lot more, as they didn't want to give too much away
I heard back in 2018 that he would get his own spinoff as a hero. Still waiting for that.
MBJ is a cornball for doing this movie without Stallone. This is a character Sly created and now Jordan is trying to make this film about himself and his universe. There should be no Rocky franchise without Sly, and Stallone himself has stated he will never watch this film.
Stallone decided himself to not appear in Creed III but now regrets that decision. However, I'm not sure if he even would re-appear due to Irwin Winkler's continued involvement.
@@StryfetheWarrior
MBJ could have very well said, "If Stallone is not going to be in this movie, neither will I." But Jordan showed his true colors. They probably dangled a carrot in front of him, promising that he could direct if he returned, and he bit.
I can't help but think that the idea of Viktor sparring with Donnie came from Shane Moseley being tapped to Spar with Oscar Dela Hoya to prepare for Mayweather.
Oscar had 2 difficult fights with Shane Moseley on which the former lost both times. Coming into the Mayweather fight, Oscar had a nearly 2-year layoff. He already had injuries and was busy being a promoter. He did KO Mayorga coming into the fight though. But Mayweather was virtually undefeatable so to prepare, he brought in the opponent who he taught knew his weaknesses the most
Good point!
I want to see APOLLO, an Apollo Creex prequel movie showing the early life & career
Agreed
@@StryfetheWarrior it would be superb wouldn't it? And before anyone says I know I misspelled Creed as Creex
No actor could pull it off. It would be better as a BOOK or NOVEL.
I can't wait for this movie big fan
I think a really beautiful way to end the story is this:
Adonis's former friend is actually WINNING the fight and is ahead in score but in the final round Adonis even though he is losing gets in just the right combination of punches and similar to what happened with Conlan back in 2015 his opponent is knocked out and the bell rings but he still has to get up (no save by the bell).
Adonis sees his former closest childhood friend unable to get up. During the 10 count he keeps trying (he is not fully unconscious but very badly shaken up) and when there are only a few seconds left Adonis runs up to him and lifts him into a standing position despite the illegality of such an action.
The referee and the judges don't know how to handle the situation since he had HELP getting up which is cheating but it happened technically against his will and Adonis is the one who violated the rules. They decide that the fairest thing to do is count it as a knockout where the fighter successfully got up before the 10 count. They then add up total score and even though Adonis won the final round from administering the knockout his former friend had a lead before that happened and when the scores are tallied Adonis loses by 1 point.
Adonis loses his title but his former friend, who wanted revenge on him ends up fully forgiving Adonis and their friendship is renewed.
that sounds stupid as shit. the whole premise of this universe is about the main character being the underdog. even when theyre on top ( rocky 3 and 4, creed 2) theyre still facing someone more hungry or more dangerous. although rocky and apollo become friends, and ivan drago shows his respect for rockys ability to keep getting up after devastating blows, none of those characters would risk winning the fight to " help a friend". i could see donnie losing the fight just outright and admitting that damian was always the better fighter, or donnie winning the fight and damian accepting hes the better fighter now and maybe joins his camp or something. i mean it appears damian killed or badly injured an associate of donnies. it would be very out of the rocky/creed universe for this hallmark channel ending of yours to fit after some shit like that. mickey dies, rocky trains harder and whoops clubber lang. apollo dies, rocky trains like crazy and beats drago... donnies friend/protege dies or becomes maimed, so donnie risks losing to help his old friend get up at the end of the fight??? hahahaha fuck out of here. they can make up after a winner is declared by traditional means
@@gdirty7380 You used up so much energy insulting me for putting up that idea that you forgot to also criticize the six people who gave me a thumb up.
@@Zurround it was 7 before I gave you a thumbs down, so I did notice. And I didn't insult you, but clearly you feeling attacked would explain why you think that stupid ass idea would be a fitting end to the movie. You're soft
@@gdirty7380 I am curious and I am being hypothetical because I doubt this is how it will end but if I had predicted correctly and the movie DID end this way would you then take back your comments about my comment or double down and get annoyed at the movie itself and insult the movie for having such a sappy ending? Something similar happened in the movie GRUDGE MATCH with Stallone and DeNero which was a boxing movie with the same actors as Rocky and Raging bull. So my idea is not totally unprecendented in movies.
@@Zurround I'd take it back if you were correct
Ludmilla Drago says to Mary Anne Creed “good luck I hope after we can be friends”
I think drago and creed will be very good friends. And drago will train creed ( also drago is romanian)
Hopefully Viktor will not get beaten to death by some giant monster and Adonis will be morally obligated to avenge him and win but only with a lot of difficulty leading to permanent brain damage and disability. Let's hope history does not repeat itself.
Its almost here!!!!
I can't wait I already see the seeds being planned for his daughter to possibly take the mantle next tho I was hoping for rocky grandson but that's probably further in the future
Sounds like dog shit.
@Antony Bennett ok and?? Don't watch it lol
Not possible. I do not mean to sound prejudiced against handicapped people but there are LOGISTICAL problems with a deaf person being a boxer. Its not safe to be unable to hear the bell ring or be unable to hear instructions from the referee. Rocky taught his own son to box so that he could defend himself from bullies but his son never grew up to be a pro boxer. I think he is teaching it to her so that she can defend herself from bullies.
yeah im hyped now
Similar to the Rocky series where Apollo Creed trained Rocky Balboa , this time Ivan Drago's son is training Adonis Creed.
We need the early years of apollo Creed would be dope
I visualized that yrs ago, and then creed pt one came out. True a story about how Apollo Creed came to be great needs to be put out. Good point
That would be an amazing story
Would work better as a BOOK or NOVEL. This fictional universe was never expanded that way the way other fictional universes were like Star Wars, Star Trek and Alien/Predator.
I got to say that I called Drago joining Creed's camp when I saw him in the cast
Yeah, I kinda speculated this too in my Viktor Drago video
I would love to see Drago’S Son vs Damian
What song is that from 0:00-0:23?
It's actually a custom made song by me made for my videos
Donnie retired 3 years ago in the movie which is why Stephen A. mentioned that he was P4P then. Sooooo…..what does Donnie have that Dame wants so bad if he’s retired? Especially since Dame already has a title belt when he tells Donnie that he’s coming for it all. What is so coveted and what does Donnie have to lose? Guess that we have to wait until 3/3
His wife
Probably as revenge for killing Felix, his pupil/friend who was either training under Donnie and/or Little Duke
NICE!
This is going to be interesting but does go with the Victor is his own Man that we got to realize in Creed 2
Definitely similarities of Rocky 3-5 in this trilogy
No Drago dosnt train him, they bring him in for sparing
Sparring is a form of training. It may not be exactly like Apollo training Rocky in Rocky III, but the parallels are there.
LETS BE SERIOUS ! AFTER WATCHING THE FILM ,EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE DRAGO VS DAMIAN!!!
Hopefully if they do a drago spin off they involve clubber lang somehow maybe he has a son too some where
Hell Yeah.
All 3 creed villains appeared😮
Ill give it a chance, but wow just from the trailers its following a lot of the Rocky 3 and 4 beats which isn't a bad thing, it works. Just wish Sly was in it and there wasn't so much bad blood between him and the studio. I will say that i didn't like Creed 2 and they missed a few opportunity's there. so we shall see with this.
Yeah, I hope Stallone returns in the future but I can also understand not wanting to drag the franchise out.
Stallone has stated he wants nothing to do with Creed as the studios are taking the character in a direction he hadn't intended.
@@chrisoconnor8392 Yeah thats right, he did say that he would be happy to return for Jordan and the studio, Its Just Winkler he wont return for.
I had that theory since I knew Drago would be in the movie!! AMD I was right ✅️ 😎 but I think also Drago senior will train him because he needs his redemption for killing Apollo!!! Can't wait to see them in his corner
P.s does anybody know why the new guy called Creed , little brother 🤔
During their childhood they were such close friends that they felt like brothers even thought they were not related.
@@Zurround yeah that's correct
I didn't know he was even in the movie.
Im really happy that they have TECATE on the ring lol
I just realized something, in Rocky 1 & 2, Rocky fought Apollo, in Rocky 3, Apollo trained Rocky and in Rocky 4, Apollo died so this may mean that Drago dies in the next film if there is one which I think I heard something about that
Michael has teased a Creed IV, but I can't see Viktor Drago dying
Definitely a mix of 3 and 4. None the less, I think Majors is a great adversary.
Agreed, I can't wait to see him in the movie
A must see is Damian vs drago 😅
Damian killed that fighter btw
Wdym ?
@@carlosmontes9679 Never mind its adressed in the 5 minute mark
@@newhybrid101 damn that would be dark if he actually did kill him
@@carlosmontes9679 I am 100% certain he killed him.
The referee was covered in blood and look how Adonis reacted.He reacted like he learned something terrible,obviously he already knew he was knockef out badly.
For him to make that face the doctors must have said he was dead
@@newhybrid101 damn Damian Wildin
If the movie has a good training scene that makes it cooler❗💥💪
Viktor Drago training Adonis is going to help him drastically defeat Dame 💯☝️
I think that Damion is coming back from being in a jail cell for 15 years to tell the whole world that Adonis is a coward and a fraud who put him in the jail cell for 15 years so that Adonis doesn’t deserves to have the name and to be the champion of the world so Damion is going to come for it all but at the end of the movie i think Adonis an Damion are going to have a deep conversation and become friends again
I think this will end like “warrior “
I still need to see that movie
Wish stallone was in the movie. It is his baby. U wouldnt have the Creed movies without stallone.
Agreed
Yeah …. Your analysis makes sense
Thank you!
Would be nice if clubber langs kin would be inserted in the creed series
It would have to make sense, though. Lang did have animosity towards Apollo, but since Lang never re-appeared in the franchise I'm not sure if it'll ever happen. I remember rumors that was the original direction for Creed III.
I am happy about the appearance of Florian Munteanu because he is Romanian, he considers himself Romanian even though he lives in Germany and whenever he has the opportunity he appears with the Romanian flag ... his appearance in Creed 2 his past ... the way he was manipulated by his parents he even put addonis in the shade ..realistically speaking, there was no way he could win in creed 2 adonis ...it's about disproportionate strength, height, etc.
I think victor and Damian would be a great on screen fight
It definitely would be. It may end up as a dream match we may never see though, similar to the veins of Drago vs Clubber
Should make Drago face off against Damian too
That'd definitely be a solid dream match. Kinda like Lang vs Ivan
Forget the Creed films. Stallone's Rocky franchise will always be the best.
It's still the same franchise lol