Nice that you mention Seek Outside - they really carry very well! - I have a Divide 4500 (model 2019). But they cheat a bit with volume and weight, they are smaller and heavier than advertised. If you wat to try something else I can recommend SWD (Superior Wildernis Design, swdpacks). Their Wolverine 70 l pack has more volume than the Divide 4500 and weights less, though Ultra 400 fabric. The carrying system is a bit worse than Seek Outside, but they have also a hanging hipbelt; otherwise two strong articulated aluminium stays inside instead of the external U frame, and good load lifters. Many small loops allow you to configure (and reconfigure in the field) your pack very flexibly with extra straps. Had it on my PCT hike this year. It was perfect at 15 kg, still good at 20 kg.
I use a 30L drybag and a fanny pack . it is my goto bag. I got a huge northface one, only used it a few times in the past 40 years. It's like carrying a house on your back LOL.
I’ve been using exclusively my Berghaus AB 70 GT for almost 40 years. If needed, I can add 2 pockets of 10 liters each. It weights 2.2 Kg and I can carry confortably 18 Kg. It is still in very good condition. I would never replace it with a modern backpack.
Matti, I really enjoy your videos and you are a great guy, but I don't agree with you on the topic of backpacks! 😁 I'm the lifestyle type hiker, going on day hikes and multi day hikes, either with tent or cabin to cabin. I'm currently switching from larger packs to smaller ones, to carry less and to better fit my tiny body. I love pockets and attachment points. Osprey has "stow on the go" for my hiking poles which is awesome. I prefer a real lid with a large size pocket on top and only accept packs without for day hikes. But we do agree on two things, good quality and a good frame with an adequate harness and hipbelt 👍 I get that you try to give general advice and it probably works for MEN, but maybe Stina should do a similar video for WOMEN? Just a thought 😊
You are pointing at a very important thing! What fits for me, maybe not fit for everyone! There is never black and white! We are all different humans and working in different ways. …even a good frame isn’t necessary if you use your isomat and your packing pods as ‘frame’. I don’t really know how to do it but I have heard some people talking about that as a good idea! Thanks for good input anyway!!! /Matti
Superb. I love a genuine informed opinion. I do like storing in top pockets and side pockets in my walking pack but my climbing cycling pack is clean as you put it
All good advice 👍 I ended up with two main backpacks which watching you made me realise I have had for 20 and 19 years! Quality does oay off if you're in it for the long haul. I do have a 20L waterproof backpack which I like if I'm trying to make myself carry less stuff ... I still also have my canvas/leather Austrian army backpack which I bought when I was16! What I do rate highly (it's not really a hiking backpack - more like your Camelbak) is my USWE running vest/pack thing. I've tried different backpacks and waist packs for running over the years which have served a purpose, but the USWE one is the first which doesn't spend it's time jiggling about and making annoying noise. Well, as long as you pack it right. It's called a Pace 15 or something like that - but look for the older models which are discounted. They are still not cheap, but if you're going to use it regularly, I think are worth considering. But don't get too fat - mine is an L/XL size and currently operating at maximum extension. I need to run more to make it fit better 🤣
Thank you for another good video, Matti 👍 Like you, I use alot of different packs. I am a packrat, I will fill any volume I'm given😂 Therefor I need a pack that will suit my trip. I normally have a few litres extra spare room(3-4L). This has led me to have a lot of packs! From the 10L MTB packs, up to 70L. I draw my line at 70 at the moment. Above that, is unessesary for me, I will bring to much "junk". At the moment HMG packs works fine for me, but, like you, I brand surf. I like to test different packs. 👍
Quite a collection of interesting backpacks, Matti... It was very wise, and smart, to give your partner Stinna's, backpack a good review. I know,... You balance your relationship. It's very important, hehe.... You two are a beautiful couple...👍
@marcdaigle1163 Haha! Well, I actually really like my backpack. We're very different in the body, so I don't think we could find a backback that fits us both.😉 /Stina
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA yes It has some weak points for sure,example fixlock on shoulder harness will brake down ,i took it away and made some customisation. it is such a lovely creation,when dialed in exactly for body its just perfect in my opinion, i also have seek outside and many others wich I like very much too.
Done are my days of backbreaking knee blowing miserable loads. If it doesn't fit in my Sierra Designs Ministry 40L, then I don't need it. One thing I've learned is that no matter the size it ends up filled. Think smaller, lighter, and less for more enjoyment.
Agree! I use two of their packs for 16 years... They are sturdy. Good old Cordura fabric and ITW nexus buckles. Upgraded both of them a little. Also I live 2 km from their manufacture in Wroclaw, Poland and if need service or additional stuff - always go to the factory shop:-)
I tried for the longest to only use 1. but now I have 3 backpacks, and 2 belt-bags. It is as you mentioned, better to take a bigger pack than you need. I go with a Norønna Para Ranger 120L, that is for the longest hikes, and all overnight hikes. It is heavy, as It's at least 15Y old. It's up for an upgrade. Then a 40L ROC rescue-climbing pack from Haglöfs , that goes as my day-pack, and then a drinking-pack, the 9L from Osprey. I can't stand the bigger packs from Osprey, but the 9L are their Ultimate I think. It came with a drinking bladder. Any lighter replacement--tip for my 120L ?
I know what you mean about buying the gear being an obsticle to doing stuff which I've been trying to get better at. Mind you, I'm sure packrafting will get easier once I get the raft?
I’m not really sure what you are talking about… But I think it’s backpacks made for Military etc? They are heavy and not comfortable for long hikes but probably it’s the kind of gear as I would love to have as a soldier in a war situation. That’s not really equipment I need today in Sweden. Then I prefer comfortable systems that fit my need. /Matti
Oh, you like to pick up mushrooms? Nice to hear, probably you could make one relaxing video while picking up them :D I heard that not many people in scandinavia do it, is it true?
It's so to see other Scandinavians landing on 60 liters and the Americans loosing their wits in the comment section. It's a weather thing. We have real weather here, and in the mountains it changes. The closest I've come to fatal hypothermia was 40 minutes walking from the center of Norway's second biggest city. We always need to have something warmer to put on. I just started using a Osprey Atmos AG 65 this summer and it has been great. My only gripe with it is that they put the bladder compartment inside the rucksack and it is a pain to refill (I know bladders are controversial but I like them). I even ended up needing the large side zipper at one point which I thought was entirely redundant. My Osprey Kestrel 38 has the bladder in the space between the harness and the rucksack and it is much better to deal with. I bought it to create artificial constraints on what to bring but I threw everything on the outside and it was a pain to carry. Fremdeles en kjempefin kanal.
It’s true about Scandinavia weather… we always need warm sleeping bags, heavy tent and good clothes. That’s big volume. The camelback inside the backpack isn’t nice if you get a leak. I only use a small 0,5 litre bottle. We have the good water in the north so we can refill it almost every where. /Matti
So, you're lying about "Americans losing their wits" in the comments section, for what purpose exactly? You're aware that comments are public, right, so everyone can see there are no "Americans losing their wits." Are you trying to be antagonistic, or are you just *that* desperate for attention?
@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA Matti, this is the second video I've watched of yours, and I see this person has many comments and "hearts" in your channel. Is this just *your* channel that has people like this, or is this representative of Scandinavians in general nowadays? Great video, great information, but I think I'll hold off watching more of your videos until I hear back.
Are you purposely lying about "Americans losing their wits" to be antagonistic, or is there a different reason for it? Comments are public, everyone can see that those comments don't exist.
Y’all have one of the best outdoor channels on TH-cam. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and experience!!
@willfairchild299 Oh, thank you! So nice to hear you think so. 🙏
Brilliant advice as always. Systematic and knowledgeable. No-nonsense from practitioners for practitioners. 👍
Thanks!
Sometimes it’s difficult to know what to cut away as nonsense and what I should keep…
🤣
/Matti
Nice that you mention Seek Outside - they really carry very well! - I have a Divide 4500 (model 2019). But they cheat a bit with volume and weight, they are smaller and heavier than advertised.
If you wat to try something else I can recommend SWD (Superior Wildernis Design, swdpacks). Their Wolverine 70 l pack has more volume than the Divide 4500 and weights less, though Ultra 400 fabric. The carrying system is a bit worse than Seek Outside, but they have also a hanging hipbelt; otherwise two strong articulated aluminium stays inside instead of the external U frame, and good load lifters. Many small loops allow you to configure (and reconfigure in the field) your pack very flexibly with extra straps. Had it on my PCT hike this year. It was perfect at 15 kg, still good at 20 kg.
I use a 30L drybag and a fanny pack . it is my goto bag.
I got a huge northface one, only used it a few times in the past 40 years.
It's like carrying a house on your back LOL.
@@AlaskanInsights 🤣
I’ve been using exclusively my Berghaus AB 70 GT for almost 40 years. If needed, I can add 2 pockets of 10 liters each. It weights 2.2 Kg and I can carry confortably 18 Kg. It is still in very good condition. I would never replace it with a modern backpack.
Good you found your match 😊👍
Matti, I really enjoy your videos and you are a great guy, but I don't agree with you on the topic of backpacks! 😁 I'm the lifestyle type hiker, going on day hikes and multi day hikes, either with tent or cabin to cabin. I'm currently switching from larger packs to smaller ones, to carry less and to better fit my tiny body. I love pockets and attachment points. Osprey has "stow on the go" for my hiking poles which is awesome. I prefer a real lid with a large size pocket on top and only accept packs without for day hikes. But we do agree on two things, good quality and a good frame with an adequate harness and hipbelt 👍
I get that you try to give general advice and it probably works for MEN, but maybe Stina should do a similar video for WOMEN? Just a thought 😊
You are pointing at a very important thing! What fits for me, maybe not fit for everyone! There is never black and white! We are all different humans and working in different ways.
…even a good frame isn’t necessary if you use your isomat and your packing pods as ‘frame’. I don’t really know how to do it but I have heard some people talking about that as a good idea!
Thanks for good input anyway!!!
/Matti
Superb. I love a genuine informed opinion. I do like storing in top pockets and side pockets in my walking pack but my climbing cycling pack is clean as you put it
Thanks!
All good advice 👍 I ended up with two main backpacks which watching you made me realise I have had for 20 and 19 years! Quality does oay off if you're in it for the long haul.
I do have a 20L waterproof backpack which I like if I'm trying to make myself carry less stuff ... I still also have my canvas/leather Austrian army backpack which I bought when I was16!
What I do rate highly (it's not really a hiking backpack - more like your Camelbak) is my USWE running vest/pack thing. I've tried different backpacks and waist packs for running over the years which have served a purpose, but the USWE one is the first which doesn't spend it's time jiggling about and making annoying noise. Well, as long as you pack it right. It's called a Pace 15 or something like that - but look for the older models which are discounted. They are still not cheap, but if you're going to use it regularly, I think are worth considering. But don't get too fat - mine is an L/XL size and currently operating at maximum extension. I need to run more to make it fit better 🤣
@@russ1046 👍 thanks for the tip!
Love your humour
Thanks! 😊
Thank you for another good video, Matti 👍
Like you, I use alot of different packs. I am a packrat, I will fill any volume I'm given😂 Therefor I need a pack that will suit my trip. I normally have a few litres extra spare room(3-4L). This has led me to have a lot of packs! From the 10L MTB packs, up to 70L. I draw my line at 70 at the moment. Above that, is unessesary for me, I will bring to much "junk". At the moment HMG packs works fine for me, but, like you, I brand surf. I like to test different packs. 👍
@@lapp2 👍
Quite a collection of interesting backpacks, Matti... It was very wise, and smart, to give your partner Stinna's, backpack a good review. I know,... You balance your relationship. It's very important, hehe.... You two are a beautiful couple...👍
@marcdaigle1163 Haha! Well, I actually really like my backpack. We're very different in the body, so I don't think we could find a backback that fits us both.😉 /Stina
Yes the mjölner is realy realy great! If you find one on the used market just grab it!
But I think they break down?
/Matti
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA yes
It has some weak points for sure,example fixlock on shoulder harness will brake down ,i took it away and made some customisation. it is such a lovely creation,when dialed in exactly for body its just perfect in my opinion, i also have seek outside and many others wich I like very much too.
Done are my days of backbreaking knee blowing miserable loads. If it doesn't fit in my Sierra Designs Ministry 40L, then I don't need it. One thing I've learned is that no matter the size it ends up filled. Think smaller, lighter, and less for more enjoyment.
Sorry to hear about your knee. You definitely have a point when you say that it will be filled up with gear no matter what size it is!!!
🤣
/Matti
If you want I recommend to check backpacks from company named Wisport, models like Reindeer or Racoon. Cheers.
I have to remember to check this!
/Matti
Agree! I use two of their packs for 16 years... They are sturdy. Good old Cordura fabric and ITW nexus buckles. Upgraded both of them a little. Also I live 2 km from their manufacture in Wroclaw, Poland and if need service or additional stuff - always go to the factory shop:-)
I tried for the longest to only use 1. but now I have 3 backpacks, and 2 belt-bags. It is as you mentioned, better to take a bigger pack than you need. I go with a Norønna Para Ranger 120L, that is for the longest hikes, and all overnight hikes. It is heavy, as It's at least 15Y old. It's up for an upgrade. Then a 40L ROC rescue-climbing pack from Haglöfs , that goes as my day-pack, and then a drinking-pack, the 9L from Osprey. I can't stand the bigger packs from Osprey, but the 9L are their Ultimate I think. It came with a drinking bladder. Any lighter replacement--tip for my 120L ?
I’m using a Fjallraven Kaijka 65l and it’s not light but I like it!
same. but I regret not taking the 75l
What is the optimal volume? Expedition pack for day hikes!
I like your style, Matti. +1
Hahahaaaa… Thanks!
Expedition pack for day hike will make the job better than a day pack for expedition trips!
😂
/Matti
Hello, thanks for a nice video:)
How would you say the comfort and weight is on a new expedition backpack compared to a Haglöfs Alaska or similar?
I know what you mean about buying the gear being an obsticle to doing stuff which I've been trying to get better at.
Mind you, I'm sure packrafting will get easier once I get the raft?
Nice video again, Matti. 👍
Quick question please. What is the make and model of your dark grey hoodie? I really like the look of it.
Thanks
Jack
Hi Jack! So many asking about our different hoodies 😊. I will make a video about them for next week, so keep watching and follow our channel. /Stina
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA Thanks, Stina.
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNADet ser man verkligen fram emot!
Hi Matti how do you keep the rain out of the side and back big pockets on the Kenai backpack?
wise info
Thank you!
What is your opinion on tactical backpack like t.exmpl Tasmanian Tiger Mission Pack MK2 ?
I’m not really sure what you are talking about… But I think it’s backpacks made for
Military etc? They are heavy and not comfortable for long hikes but probably it’s the kind of gear as I would love to have as a soldier in a war situation.
That’s not really equipment I need today in Sweden. Then I prefer comfortable systems that fit my need.
/Matti
Oh, you like to pick up mushrooms? Nice to hear, probably you could make one relaxing video while picking up them :D I heard that not many people in scandinavia do it, is it true?
First
First to comment or what????
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA yes
@9:05 try to hug her around her hips Matti😊
Ahaaa… Thats maybe the trick!
Thanks!!!
🤣
/Matti
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It's so to see other Scandinavians landing on 60 liters and the Americans loosing their wits in the comment section. It's a weather thing. We have real weather here, and in the mountains it changes. The closest I've come to fatal hypothermia was 40 minutes walking from the center of Norway's second biggest city. We always need to have something warmer to put on.
I just started using a Osprey Atmos AG 65 this summer and it has been great. My only gripe with it is that they put the bladder compartment inside the rucksack and it is a pain to refill (I know bladders are controversial but I like them). I even ended up needing the large side zipper at one point which I thought was entirely redundant. My Osprey Kestrel 38 has the bladder in the space between the harness and the rucksack and it is much better to deal with. I bought it to create artificial constraints on what to bring but I threw everything on the outside and it was a pain to carry.
Fremdeles en kjempefin kanal.
It’s true about Scandinavia weather… we always need warm sleeping bags, heavy tent and good clothes. That’s big volume.
The camelback inside the backpack isn’t nice if you get a leak. I only use a small 0,5 litre bottle. We have the good water in the north so we can refill it almost every where.
/Matti
So, you're lying about "Americans losing their wits" in the comments section, for what purpose exactly? You're aware that comments are public, right, so everyone can see there are no "Americans losing their wits." Are you trying to be antagonistic, or are you just *that* desperate for attention?
@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA Matti, this is the second video I've watched of yours, and I see this person has many comments and "hearts" in your channel. Is this just *your* channel that has people like this, or is this representative of Scandinavians in general nowadays?
Great video, great information, but I think I'll hold off watching more of your videos until I hear back.
Are you purposely lying about "Americans losing their wits" to be antagonistic, or is there a different reason for it? Comments are public, everyone can see that those comments don't exist.