How Sleep Created Dopesmoker
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INFO: Sleep is an American doom metal / stoner rock trio from San Jose, California. The band has often been talked about as one of the more influential bands in those genres in addition to acts like Kyuss, High on Fire and Om. They were founded in 1990 then broke up by the end of the decade but got back together in 2009 and have been active ever since. Now what makes Sleep such a unique band to a lot of fans is their 1999 released third album Jerusalem and the altered and slightly more popular version of this album known as Dopesmoker released in 2003. It’s an album consisting of one song lasting over 50 minutes. Some versions lasting over an hour. On top of that, the song is also quite monotonous. Guitarist Matt Pike repeats the same notes and melodic patterns over and over. When i describe it it might come off as boring. So why is this album regarded as a stoner rock cornerstone? That’s the question i’ll answer in this video.
"How Sleep Created Dopesmoker"
Weed.
end of video.
yea.
like jesus i really dont understand this one
WEED C
"How Sleep Created Dopesmoker"
Melvins.
end of video.
Weed and shroom or magic truffles
@@vinyldiary6664 Melvins + Weed. That's the whole story.
I literally just clicked through to the video to find this comment.
How Smoking Dope created Me Sleeping.
I'm sure that wouldn't be as interesting ;)
Lmao...If you post that video, I'll subscribe
Ben Williams Haha
@RIK VARTIGYAN I said sleeping, not jumping out the window...
i weed lol dope like
Dopesmoker's cover looks like Dune's planet of Arrakhis. Even the people are wearing wetsuits.
Looks like I'm not the only one who thinks so. Really like reading Dune while listening to Sleep
Joel Monteiro I tried searching this up on google. So Dune is a movie from the 80s?
@@LieLikesMusic it is a book series above all. A genius one
@@LieLikesMusic Google 'Frank Herbert'.
True. Sleep’s love of Dune is no secret. The lyrics to Giza Butler on The Sciences have very explicit references to Dune.
I used to double Dopesmoker as a 1 hour timer when I was cleaning carpets. Combining the repetition of the song and body movements I often would slip deep into my thoughts in a meditative way. The sound for me has warmth like a 100 degree arid day. The ultimate desert travel album along with The Bees Made Honey In The Lions Skull.
Love Bees Made Honey in the Lion's Skull. Glad it got some love here
Damn another Earth fan. Great album but I kinda prefer the older stuff like Earth 2 and Pentagon.
I used to mow the lawn and try to be done before it was over.
I do this as well but I clean swimming pools
I do this but I smoke bongs.
Dopesmoker is definitely Sleep's magnum opus and one of the greatest albums of any musical genre ever.
Masterpiece. I just heard it for the first time on saturday, while on a c i d. Couldn't believe what I was hearing.
I think as a whole Holy Mountain is a more complete and versatile as an album. Not to take anything away from Dopesmoker especially Billy Anderson’s production masterpiece! Also I believe the are tuned to bflat dropped e string or in A.
@Toxic Potato no its actually perfect
I think the song Giza Butler is their best song. But what would I know, I’ve been listening to doom since the womb.
@@xeverettx2564 I feel exactly the same. As much as I like dopesmoker I find it to be too much on the gimmicky side, I mean the concept is coll and everything but holy mountain just feel as a more complete and full fledged record.
How Electric Wizard created Dopethrone?
Hmm i'll consider that
@@LieLikesMusic that's awesome, I appreciate the consideration. Keep up the good work 👌
they don't remember actually, only one memory : Jus threatening the producer with a baseball bat to undermix the vocals how he intented in the first place haha
th-cam.com/video/wi1OwLkHrd4/w-d-xo.html (if i remember correctly it is in this interview)
@@LieLikesMusic I'd totally watch that
Yeah dude that might be a good one.
Actual vid starts at 1:58
getting sick of these patreon panhandling.
hero
@@HTRism it's hard making on youtube nowadays, you gotta have some other source of money
@@HTRism which is why he gave a clear indication of when it's over. I don't love it. But I respect that it's needed.
Duck this guys patreon
In my town (Pacific Northwest) Sleep, and stoner metal in general, is currently in a major resurgence in popularity. Its great to see focus back on tone, mood and substance in the music community
Hey man, what do you mean when you say substance...lol hehe
Cool! It's the same here in Oslo from what i've seen. It's a sub-culture full of great people.
im in BC and we love sleep up here
Here in germany where i live (in mannheim) seems to be some stoner rock fans too.
That’s every dude but I’m also in PNW too
>same melodic pattern over and over
Why does everyone say Dopesmoker is the same riff on repeat, did you guys never listen to it? There are about 10 different riffs and 3 long solo sections, if you made the riffs 8 secs long instead of 2 minutes you'd get a pretty orthodox stoner metal song.
Seriously, I couldn't agree more. When he said "monotonous", I'm like what? There are so many changes in the main riff. Sounds like this guy listened to it once, NOT stoned.
@@dangramful Saying that it's monotonous is completely fair, it has the same tempo, basic structure and pace throughout the entire piece and 10 different riffs and 3 solo sections is really not too much when you're talking about a song that's about an hour long. Also, monotonous is not in any way a negative thing to say, dopesmoker is great, and part of what makes the song great is how droning, dreary and monotonous it is.
I love your profile photo
for those who don't know there was a very early version of Dopesmoker that lasted like 15-20 minutes and had much faster riffing.
You know what melodic means cuz
The intro to this video is longer than the song it's about
Yet you watched
The song is longr than this video 😂😂😂😂😂
I remember first hearing this on the henry rollins radio show more than 10 years ago. Pretty hilarious to hear the complete song on the radio.
Sorry but this investigation is a little bit "light" for that album...
Exactly my thoughts.
and complete fiction
And two minutes of shilling...
Not even accurate investigation, Ike doesn’t like sleep
“My ad revenue has increased by 3/4 this year”
*pretends to smoke joint*
So much for that revenue
*Decreased by
NickRivers Lol good one. Well it's not like i'm endorsing or glorifying that.
Lie Likes Music lol cheers bud!
Jerusalem was the working title hence why it had different parts and then final product was called Dopesmoker which originally had the crazy looking horse on the front. The newer artwork with the gas masks are actually bongs/vaporizers you wear on the back and the mask is the hit piece. They are worn by the Hasheashians/lungsmen (presumably). They are monks transporting bails of weed across the holy land i.e. Jerusalem.
XeverettX great comment.
☝🏼Hasheashian here😂😂😂😂
Wow the way I understood it was totally different from this story. I heard they presented London with the one song and they said no way so Sleep basically disbanded. The label tried cutting the one long song up with fade ins and outs and called it Jerusalem in an effort to get back some money. Then the full original song was finally released under the original name of Dopesmoker.
That's a lot closer to the story than Lie's take. Tbh the depth and effort of Lie's research and explanations have been weak lately, and now he's focusing on this whole "youtube guru" front. IMO he's losing sight of what made him popular in the first place.
That's exactly how I heard it went aswell, proceeds
Yeah I agree. Not sure where this info came from
Must've been so..... hiiiiiiiigh!
-MJK
Quote approved.
All I see is a big snails on a farm
One of my favorite bands and favorite albums ever. The reason I picked up guitar was the play like Matt Pike. What a fucking legend. They’re gonna be missed now that they’re going on hiatus.
It's cool. The sleep hiatus will make way for om and high on fire tours
Philan Le dude, fuck that. I like both bands, but I way prefer sleep.
I love Sleep, but High on Fire is probably my favorite of all their projects.
@@nastylittlecritter sleep is hands down one of my favorite bands. I've seen them 6 times since they've re united though
Philan Le I’m so jealous.
Melvins “Lysol” should get some credit
dood has a blind spot for the Mighty M. his last video completely missed the boat on the decade of the Melvins' Melting faces before bands like sleep,kyuss,and eyehategod even weened off sabbath covers.
g0blinL0rd Oh Lord True. For some reason they've always skipped my mind. I'll be sure to give them a proper listen soon.
melvin’s never get their credit so i’m not surprised he didn’t mention it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@sonictitan5604 Melvins may be the most underrated band of all time, they get almost no credit or acknowledgement for the huge strides they are responsible for in the development of heavy music, not that I'm biased or anything.
melvins1992 they pretty much birthed grunge, sludge and drone all within like a 5-6 year time span and still under-acknowledged
I haven't heard dopesmoker in a lonnnggg time
Wakandan_ Hokage what are you waiting for then?😏
@@wilbur112 Crank up the volume to 11
@@LieLikesMusic I have now
@@wilbur112 idk, but it's on full blast now
Wakandan_ Hokage yippee!
2:46 It's important to realise Dopesmoker is NOT the same melodic pattern all the way through. While the note C does appear much more often than any other note, there are easily enough riffs in the song to fill an album and keep it interesting. They even printed a list of the named riffs on the vinyl inner sleeve.
It's not about drone so much as minimalism, really. When you're listening it's hard to hear the difference, but you can tell it's subtly shifting.
@@drpibisback7680 When you get more familiar with the song you can tell the different sections apart much more easily.
Some riffs (like the first one) are very long, taking over a minute to play, which certainly leads to the listener getting disorientated.
With your first comment, I think I see what you mean, although calling a 63 minute metal track with so many riffs minimalist could be a bit of a stretch. :D
@@czgibson3086 I meant more in the sense of traditional, classical minimalism, where slight variations become central to the piece. In terms of sound it is very maximal.
@@drpibisback7680 I think you see Dopesmoker as being much more homogenous than I do. In other words, the riffs are much more than slight variations of each other. For example, the Cultivator riff (around 43 minutes in) is very different from the Departure riff (the first one). These differences become more noticeable the more you listen to it. However, the riffs still sound like they belong together, and it still sounds like one big song rather than several different songs shoved together, so maybe I'm just splitting hairs! I like the fact that the song provokes these contradictory thoughts - just more evidence that this is one of the great masterpieces of rock music.
@@czgibson3086 holy shit I've been listening to the song for years and I always thought it was few chords being played over and over. I didn't think those were just really really slow riffs. This is whole another mind blow if that's correct.
Could you do a video on Acid Bath? Tremendously underrated and influential band and my personal favorite, thank you in advance. I love your videos!
Yes please
Fuckin' A, Dr. Seuss is Dead, HEAVY HEAVY
It’s nice to hear them be so “blunt” about it…
What desert/stoner rock band should i talk about next?
Lie Likes Music The Sword!! Hail from AZ, USA
Elder
Lie Likes Music anything about Sleep maybe backrounds of the members, i want to hear little more about Al, there is no big backrgound on the internet
Do BORIS
Dopethrone!
Please do a video on Sunn O))) such a peculiar band that is so fun to dive into.
I'll consider it for sure.
O))) shit. Lots of grunge, sludge and black metal history
dont forget actual drone artists like elaine radigue, terry riley, yoshi wada etc.
Agreed.. brother.
Weed, acid and shrooms are the sacrament of an old-time religion called rock'n'roll. It's no coincidence rock peaked in the 70s, and went to shit when all the bands started doing blow.
Anne Frank "Bands have been doing blow since the late 60s early 70s hell since the 30s really." > Yeah, and those bands where shit. And those that weren't shit, become shit once they stated doing blow.
@@n0xx295 black sabbath vol 4 begs to differ
funkmaster3k n0xx Id bet most your favorite bands did blow at some point lol
But it got really good in the 90s with heroin, grunge is some of my favorite music
Toxic Potato the entire genre of jazz from 1930-1980 would like to disagree with you
I'd say the cover gives me more of a Dune vibe. The men are the Fremen and the ship is an Ornithopter.
Dopesmoker is one of the greatest pieces of music ever written. I love Sleep so much.
It took the band 4.20 years* to finish the song.
Rock pe pâine The more weed jokes the merrier
@@LieLikesMusic The Mary-er* ba-dum-tss. Ok, I'll kick myself off the planet right now.
Rock pe pâine Ah man. Lmao. I think i'm one of the few people here who sees the value in dry humor.
I don't know if someone already mentioned, but the religious use of Cannabis specifically dates back to at least 2.000 years in India, where it was consumed as an offering to the deity Shiva, with very elaborate rituals followed by fasting and meditation. Cannabis is mentioned in several sacred scriptures from Hindu philosophy. Not to mention Rastafari, which is a very serious religion in some parts of the world in which the consumption of the plant is a central spiritual practice. I don't know if Sleep was drawing some inspiration from those traditions, but yeah, just to mention that they were not (entirely lol) tripping when they came with that concept.
This notification got me stoked. Would love for you to do some stuff on Melvins
*Mentions* *Metal* Shows Van Halen as example
How to doom metal:
1: vintage style guitar
2: drop tune enough to be low but not djent low
3: 90 bpm *max*
4: 1 note per beat, 2 beats *max* . 4 notes if you want to write thrash doom
Also weed
A Sleep video without the mention of Black Sabbath? WOW!
You really should check out hawkwind..
Not only one of member was Lemmy kilmister who formed MOTORHEAD.
and there music is weird and great at the same time.
Me my opinion Sche I've been meaning to check them out for a long time now. Don't they create something along the lines of paychedelic and progressive rock?
Lie Likes Music yes. Hawkwind feels like the stepping stone between psychedelic and progressive rock.
"I can imagine all of this being tough to remember, especially after you've just *aggressive inhales*" This is the most I've ever laughed at one of your videos. I don't know why that got me so much but damn haha.
Robert Rossignol Lol probably because i'm not the person to goof off too much in my videos. At least not usually.
I decided to stray out of my comfort zone in terms of metal genres today (being into thrash and and all the other much faster genres), and I honestly really enjoyed Dopesmoker, listened to the song in all of its entirety.
We all know that this is the longest song on everyone phones.
nope. Mirror Reaper
Nope. Flood.
too high for that dead pixel
maximumvend *dead pixel swallows the entire screen
LLM: "Why is this song known as one of the corner stone of stoner rock?"
Me:*takes another rip* cuz it's heavy as fuck
funnily enough, i ran my fastest ever 10km while listening to Dopesmoker, which.....blew my mind
ElectroWench Haha that's so ironic and crazy. I'm a runner too. Or at least it's my go-to choice of exercising. Nice to find people with good taste in both music and physical exercise.
Just finished running to “Sonic Titan” then noticed this gem just uploaded
Thx for watching
i find it awesome that in any photo you have of Al playing bass, he’s always got some sort of Rickenbacker. You’ll see him with some odd ones, like his custom 4004, the 4002 shown in the video, there’s even an Instagram post of him with a 4005/8!
I just listened to the thing in its entirety today, and a couple hours later this is in my recommended. Thanks, TH-cam.
it did NOT take 4 years to make that song, They got kicked off their label when they heard the recording and it took 4 years to get it out. Matt was not smoking weed at the time. The band had not even been together 4 years when the song was recorded. Im not sure where you got your information? The song was created in the studio and is a product of the studio.
PROCEED THE WEEDIANNNNN
NAZARETH
5:23
Not quite Star wars indeed
If we look closer to the lyrics we can see, that Sleep are big fans of Dune, great book by Frank Herbert. There are lots of Easter eggs and the 2012 dopesmoker cover is one of them. Because, you know, Arrakis is a desert planet, having 2 satellites and literally have deserts of drugs
For me that is mindblowing, that one masterpiece of sci-fi literature in some way created other masterpiece of music
This guy is reading the wikipedia article almost word for word
Sleep… unreal. Just unreal. Matt Pike is that freakin good that he can play the same notes over and over and never get boring
Dune is key here. That look is inspired by the fremen stillsuit
Great video, dude! Salute from HOLLAND, stay high :-)
Nederlandse Sleep-liefhebbers, verenigt u!
Those alien creatures are called "weedians" in case you didn't know yet
I heard a relatively recent interview with Pike where he said that he spent a lot of time on creating the perfect guitar sound/tone. He eventually got it but by that time several months had past. He did the song over those 2 years but because of the whole legal battle over the album he didn't get to keep the pedals & equipment used in creating the guitar sound so it was essentially a lost sound now. He said he's been chasing that sound ever since and he can get close to it but never identical to it.
Its funny i didnt know this band till i started printing their shirts.
You haven’t experienced this album until you’ve been high as fuck listening to it in bed at 2 AM
Check out Al's other band OM for more mysticism & trippyness :)
4:51 to answer your question here
They weren’t
London records made them change the name from dopesmoker
They were originally gonna change the name to Nazareth but changed it to Jerusalem instead because their label, again shelved the album for 2 yrs after the song was completed and another band released their own album called Nazareth
anyone else notice the missing pixel that's moving around his face?
"Be so blunt"..
I see what you did there..
Lots of bad info in here.
Also high on fire with Cody from Murder City Devils is EPIC
dood has a blind spot for the Mighty M. his last video completely missed the boat on the decade of the Melvins' Melting faces before bands like sleep,kyuss,and eyehategod even weened off sabbath covers.
literally just listening to sleep and I see this in my feed.
yessss I have been waiting for this!
Same here. I've been thinking about making this video for the past 2 years
Aw, yeah. My kind of video *Starts joint*
4 years to come up with one song sounds like every pothead musician i know
Sometimes the song calls for that tho
@@Luna312ful mines don't
@@GFEBMX they don't always call for it
Dude, I was trying to wipe off the dust speck on your forehead for like 5 min haha
What will it take you to do a video on KoRn???? Or Jonathan Davis??? I've been requesting these for ages now... Especially Jonathan Davis, he's done so goddamn much... It would be interesting if you made a video on him or KoRn.
Edit: THE LIKES ARE APPRECIATED.
Anyone with answers as to why he hasn't done a video on KoRn or Jonathan Davis, please respond... Because I know he won't
Korn is terrible.
@@rudi_tabootie I like them. So I was requesting a video on them. He May like them or not, that's what I want to know.
@@maximumgainpodcast4835 I don't like them. My parents are hardcore fans. And funnily enough, they've requested me to make one about them too. But... meh. I think Loudwire or Rockfeed made a video essay about J. Davis tho.
@@LieLikesMusic oh ok. Cool, just wanted to know.
Hey lie thannk you soo much.... keeep making thhese im geeting introduces to kool bands due to you !
-brokunas
Hey man, i'm glad you're keeping an open mind. Talk later!
@@LieLikesMusic sure mqqn
Can't quite put my finger on why, but sleeps music is the most visual music I've ever heard. Something about their music puts me right into a scene and from the artwork inspired by their music I can see others get the exact same visuals. It's extremely hypnotic. The bass and drummers side band "Om" is very similar
funny that one songs is 5 times longer than a video telling me about the song.
Very cool man, I've been delaying myself to listening to that album for a long time now, think I'll give it a try.
Love your vids dude!
Thanks for the love! And yes feel free to check it out. It can definitely be a unique and challenging listening experience.
That documentary "such hounds such hawks" is brilliant, very inspiring indeed
YEEES Please more stoner and doom metal
I don't like it when people call Weed dope. Weed is not dope. Heroin is dope. Weed is weed.
Glad to see something different from Homme; I like him and all, but I’ve been foaming at the mouth for some new stuff.
Huh? Your sentence is a bit confusing. But yeah i've made a lot of Qotsa and Homme related stuff recently. I'm planning to mix it up with other desert and stoner rock bands.
Lie Likes Music Just meant that I’ve been excited for newer stuff. But yeah, always glad to see you branch out a bit more. Great stuff though!
Scout ²³ Thanks! I'm glad you dig it.
The "bootleg" version wasn't a bootleg version at all. The band put that out themselves with Arik Roper artwork after London records decided to shelve it. The Rise Above version (Jerusalem) from 1999 is the same as a the "bootleg" version from 1997.
At 7 mins I'm out, so much misinformation in this video. Folks this dude doesn't know anything about Sleep.
This guy doesn't sound like a fan of Sleep or even seems like he knows anything about the band. Or cannabis for that matter
This guy definitely didn't do enough research on this album
Great video. About the title ‘Jerusalem’. My guess it doesnt necessary have to do with the Middle East, but more with ‘Holy Land’. Just like Holy Mountain, this one is about a dopecaravan to...: Nazareth (see: lyrics), which is just like Jerusalem a place in the Holy Land. It isnt necassary Jewsish (both are Israel and Biblical places); i think they use it as a metafore for ‘holy place or land’. Or just maybe it sounded a bit more safe than f.e.: Mekka 😂
Yes! I’ve been waiting for this
A 2 minute commercial at the start? My days
4:48 'I dont know what they were thinking '
Neither do they 😤🌬
there's an interview on youtube somewhere where the whole idea for the imagery for the song came from the idea of a caravan crossing the desert to reach jerusalem, hence the title. it's almost kinda program music in the way it's reflected by the music, but it's not necessarily meant as program music and doesn't try to be.
how many versions are there? I only know of dope Smoker and Jerusalem.
That white dot on 1:58 and further on really irritates me.
4:48 'I don't know exactly what they were thinking...'
They were high, duh...
He doesn't play just one riff throughout the album. I don't know why the fuck people keep saying that?
Bro, I just found your channel and I have to say. It's dope af.
i just found out yesterday about their indefinite hiatus. so sad i will probably never get to see them live
Really? I didn't know that either actually... They were touring and playing in my hometown just this year i believe.
@@LieLikesMusic they annouced it on november 11th, their tour ends on the first day of 2020
@@everybodyhateskyle6133 I wouldn't worry, they just want some time touring and writing with high on fire and Om, give it a few years and they will back
can i ask where you got these photos? I’ve never seen a Rickenbacker like the one Al is holding in these photos
Finally a Sleep Video!!
You're welcome
Thank you for making this!!
No probs. Let me know if there are any other bands you want me to talk about.
Lie Likes Music Fugazi would be a hella good video
Why didn't I get the Notification. RAGH. It's a good video tho. Keep it up!
Thanks bro. I appreciate that you're always early for my videos ;)
@@LieLikesMusic it's no Problem if your Content is Entertaining than I'm going to be Early
dude, it's spectrum, not specter, I noticed this mistake in another vid too
Dopesmoker cover looks like something out of Frank Herbert's Dune, the book series
I find it similar enough to be a direct reference.
The cover is probably Dune inspired
I see Matt Pike and I press like
You should make a video on The Brian Jonestown Massacre.
Been t9 countless live shows, but sleep supporting hawkwind... f hell ... i wish i had been there!