@MadSkillzzTV Thank you so much! I have learned so much about paladins from your videos and this one was by far the best Overall PvE Holy Paladin guide that I've seen. Thanks!!!
Thanks for the very informational video! I'm a prot main trying to heal and have had difficulty doing so. This helped me understand a bit more about healing choices. Many thanks!
Awesome guide! But as a mythic plus only player I missed the M+ gameplay section. Do you plan to do another video about that? Thanks for doing the best healer content on youtube!
Thank you for the guide, I don't use my holy pally since lich king and when I tried to give her a chance in bfa, I was absolutly lost, and then people said me that the gameplay is now shockadin. I was with trouble acepting this new gameplay, but your guide give me hope :D (same with disci priest, didn't play legion :C )
Nice man,thanks. Its really weird to see crit main stat for the glimer build for m+ but you are right when you said the infusion of light its very important to do more single target healing. Thanks!
It's because you don't rely on glimmer for your throughput in m+. It's all about your crit from holy shocks. Glimmer is nice but it's not where your throughput comes from.
I'd like to see your take on Holy Priest, particularly in raiding. I've been struggling a bit with it this patch and i cant seem to figure out why, id love to see a different perspective
OMG. I did not know that the Azerite traits for other specs actually work when you switch to a different spec that cannot learn it. IE switch to Ret to learn Light's Decree and then switch back? That is awesome!! This definitely works then?
I am Crit = Vers > haste = mastery. And my mastery is still highest stat by 10% at 34%. Vers adds healing no matter how far you are. I have 5% vers and I got a prot shield equiped that increase 8% vers from all sources.
I don't heal (yet) but I love your videos. Want to get into healing and be good at it but don't want to be a holy paladin - will you make guides for the other classes? I'm considering disc priest, monk or resto shaman...
I absolutely adore this playstlye, so much fun, my best era ever as a healer type of guy. I hope they will integrate this glimmer thing somehow to Shadowlands... but if i need to guess... well its not gona happen :(
I hate this playstyle. It converts holy paladins into raid healers which completely ruins our niche of a healing spec. Ive also seen it ruin people in m+ because while glimmer is nice, it's not your bread and butter throughput or our damage. It's holy shock. I can out damage tanks and sometimes bad DPS on boss fights and it's fun. But it's not because of glimmer.
I'm currently Pushing myth nyalotha and I find that in some fights beacon of light hybrid builds heals mora than traditional glimmer also avengers crusade have decent numbers in fights such as nzoth vexiona
Can i ask guys? While im an exceptional shaman healer, i just did 30k hps on Vexiona and they removed me from group ( with my pala). You use only Holy shock? You have to spread holy shock to as many player as possible? You also spam Flash of Light or not? I don't understand what i do wrong
If you have nothing else it's okay but preferably there is another helm from azerite vendor that gives glimmer, indomitable justice and other great traits. There is a point where to much haste can be wonky. I find the best area is 30-40% haste base line I run 38% haste, 23% crit, 30% mastery and it is very balanced!
Hey, I dont have Conflict and Strife. I am wondering if its mandatory as Vision for raid, I just dont do rated very much. But i have most others at Rank 3 should I go ahead and go for Con and Strife over my rank 3 Life Binder for example. (raid)
new to healing, what is the addon that you are using for your party memeber interface grid to cast your spells onto? friends are telling me vudu but it doesnt seem to be working well with my scimitar mouse
Is there a dps rotation in here? I didn’t catch it. I’ve seen holy paladins pulling 40k dps in my mythicplus runs and I been wondering how they do that
if there's not much dmg happening, you can use your holy shock on the boss, applying a glimmer. So if you pop wings and are just shocking boss & critting each time, it's a lot dmg. Also he mentioned using corruption dmg pieces. I carry guildies thru heroics this way.
@@MadSkillzzTV Haha, I didn't really mind it. Just thought it was fun that you opened with that. I know editing takes a lot of time, and am thankful for the content you produce. A suggestion would be to maybe have a summary video and a full video like this where you go into details. It would target 2 different audiences.
Liked the video, but im very confused as to why you wouldnt pick Ever Rising Tide, or atleast mention it as an option, in raids as your major. Holy paladins have an abundance of mana, so its basically just free healing. I was running with Visions of Perfection major for a while, but it just felt like 90% of the time, it would proc off of a holy shock, and then i would only be able to get 1 extra holy shock out, which to me didnt feel worth the major slot, so i use it as a minor instead
Hi, thanks so much for your video! I just started healing and this was soooo useful! May I ask you if there is a way to find your interface somewhere? I really love it! Thanks so much man!
Is it normal for a pally to be out healed by a druid and shaman? im 458i followed all guides going and im always smashed on the healing meters i seem be lacking those aoe heals, im getting glimmer on as many targets as possible - May i add on the healing metres my over healing is always Much much lower than theres? also how does Light of martyr work on meters does it affect your healing done numbers?
How can I deal with hard pulls with this build?, I mean, I feel that it's harder to heal up the whole team when everybody's about to die, with my old build that wasn't a problem, using beacon of virtue and being more like a passive healer (no crussader's might)
Seems weird that Hpal don't want minor essences like vitality conduit, or life binders etc that a lot of other healers tend to use. Conflict, and crucible both seem odd to me, but all the top paladins use them.
I personally like to play with vitality conduit and it makes like 8-10% of my hps. i got the feeling it procs regulary on glimmer and light of dawn what just makes it nice to balance out health. but tbh i dont have a fuckin clue what im doin. just playing like i want to :P
@@Cykro99 but you're also doing almost the same amount of damage to your raid, so it's very little effective healing. Good for padding the meters though.
@@Cykro99 Vitality isn't very good, it looks like it's doing more healing then it is because details doesn't meter it correctly. Logs subtracts the negative healing it does and balances out not very good.
Pablo Sanchez It makes far more sense for the guy in full plate and the big hammer/sword and shield to be stood at the front hitting things and healing his friends than stood at the back. This is how paladin should have always played since vanilla, IMO.
I disagree with the rotation. In many situations its not worth making sure your light of dawn always is on cd. Then its just better to spam crusader strike and holy shocks that they are the most important things, and not light of dawn
Usually more in mythic + than raids. In mythic + it is a good damage filler. In raids it is very situational, like it is fine to use it in down time for raids, but that's when there isn't healing needed. In normal and heroic raiding, where there is less damage going out, you'll have more opportunities to use it rather than mythic raiding.
I really want to try hpaladin but I'd have to farm essences from scratch, grind neck and cloak... Fml BFA is so damn grindy and anti alters, I hate this. By the way I gotta say I find it unfair that a class with a simpler dps rotation with more direct healing and better CDs is performing better than Fistweaving which is way less reliable when you need to heal a target (since it's pretty random and most of the time you're healing through hots that jump to other targets), have worse CDs and their rotation is way warder, specially when you have to interrupt it to hard cast heals. I mean I've gotta try to stack Tiger palm up to 3 times, see if I have thunder focus tea up, use my renewing mists and essence fountain before rising sun kick, fill up one second if I used thunder focus tea, then cast again rising sun kick and cross my fingers to get a reset with blackout kick. All that while having an eye on people's health in case you need to interrupt your rotation and cast vivify or something else, keeping up soothing mist preferibly on tanks. Oh and we need perfect mana administration since Way of the crane costs 25k mana, trying to use it with mana tea if possible so it costs half of it. I mean it's fun as hell to play as a fistweaving, but I feel like it's not rewarding enough to play that build when you could just play hpally or discipline, I'd really apretiate some tuning from Blizzard to make it more appealing somehow. Even if it was just changing or improving monk cds would be enough probably, they're quite trashy... Anyways, going back to paladins, I really love them and I think I'll try to gear one, it was my first healing class so I'll always have some love for them in my heart (of Azeroth)
I might have to eat my own words, fistweaver with haste is quite interesting and specially fun, despite being a bit hard to manage at the beginning and needing really nice timing over the use of vivifies (or way of the crane on certain bosses). I'm having a blast with it and topping the meters in HC. I hope I can still be usefull for mythic content, though Wrathion and Skitra are bad for this build
I'm so fucking bored with healers having to DPS in order to heal efficiently now. As I healer main I can honestly say I wish blizzard would just remove the healer role altogether now and be done with it.
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Talents 1:22
Essences 3:42
Azerite & Gear 6:47
Stat Priority 9:57
Gameplay 13:34
Corruption 23:41
MadSkillzzTV Very thorough guide. 👍
how dos you havening wrath only have 1.06 cd ?
@MadSkillzzTV Thank you so much! I have learned so much about paladins from your videos and this one was by far the best Overall PvE Holy Paladin guide that I've seen. Thanks!!!
I've never clicked on a video so fast!!! Ty for making this!
I didn't realize you could switch spec's while locking traits to force other trait choices. good tip (M8:30). Thanks
thanks for this! i stopped playing seriously after wotlk and when i came back to the game last month I was completely lost. this is really helpful!!!
Thanks for the very informational video! I'm a prot main trying to heal and have had difficulty doing so. This helped me understand a bit more about healing choices. Many thanks!
Awesome guide! But as a mythic plus only player I missed the M+ gameplay section. Do you plan to do another video about that? Thanks for doing the best healer content on youtube!
Stack crit> haste and spam holy shock. Big damage, big healing. Win win
I haven’t played holy since MoP and WoD... it looks like it’s in an amazing place right now can’t wait to try it out
Thank you for this guide. I will be playing holy pal on nzoth mythic instead of mistweaver. Still learning hpal
Wicked guide mate TY so much for the video ! keep them coming !
Just used my character boost and this is just what i needed, thank you
Thank you for the guide, I don't use my holy pally since lich king and when I tried to give her a chance in bfa, I was absolutly lost, and then people said me that the gameplay is now shockadin. I was with trouble acepting this new gameplay, but your guide give me hope :D (same with disci priest, didn't play legion :C )
Nice man,thanks. Its really weird to see crit main stat for the glimer build for m+ but you are right when you said the infusion of light its very important to do more single target healing. Thanks!
It's because you don't rely on glimmer for your throughput in m+. It's all about your crit from holy shocks.
Glimmer is nice but it's not where your throughput comes from.
Thanks for the tip. I only did M+ on my pala alt and boy was I wrong with my cd usage
A little late but I love the length here, you are the best.
Thanks for this awesome guide!
Thanks for the awesome guide.
keep em coming thank you as always... you got my Twitch Prime subs
I main Holy paladin and already knew all of this, still fun to listen too and hear the excitement about my favorite class and spec :)
Thanks for the video man, was very insightful! I learned alot!
Holy cow, you have insanely good stats. I’m close to your mast and vers and crit but you have like 8% more haste. That’s nutty.
Because of trinket
Thanks for your guide man, i outheal people who are like 10 itemlvls over me now! :)
I'd like to see your take on Holy Priest, particularly in raiding. I've been struggling a bit with it this patch and i cant seem to figure out why, id love to see a different perspective
Loved it thanks you
Nice video, as a holy paladin myself, its nice to get confirmation that my playstyle is correct
Great Guide! Thank you
OMG. I did not know that the Azerite traits for other specs actually work when you switch to a different spec that cannot learn it. IE switch to Ret to learn Light's Decree and then switch back? That is awesome!! This definitely works then?
I am Crit = Vers > haste = mastery. And my mastery is still highest stat by 10% at 34%. Vers adds healing no matter how far you are. I have 5% vers and I got a prot shield equiped that increase 8% vers from all sources.
I don't heal (yet) but I love your videos. Want to get into healing and be good at it but don't want to be a holy paladin - will you make guides for the other classes? I'm considering disc priest, monk or resto shaman...
Awsome. Thank u, sir!
I main spec Ret and like to heal sometimes so this helps me a lot because I know Ret reaaly good and Holy not that well, Thank you
damn bro you know how to explain things, i learned so much
Great 👍. Thank you very much!!!
I absolutely adore this playstlye, so much fun, my best era ever as a healer type of guy. I hope they will integrate this glimmer thing somehow to Shadowlands... but if i need to guess... well its not gona happen :(
I hate this playstyle. It converts holy paladins into raid healers which completely ruins our niche of a healing spec. Ive also seen it ruin people in m+ because while glimmer is nice, it's not your bread and butter throughput or our damage. It's holy shock. I can out damage tanks and sometimes bad DPS on boss fights and it's fun. But it's not because of glimmer.
hello Mad nice Video. Mistweaver monk guide 8.3 would nice
Great guide but I'm not sure what you mean by "gambling the shoulder traits". Could someone explain it for me??
I'm currently Pushing myth nyalotha and I find that in some fights beacon of light hybrid builds heals mora than traditional glimmer also avengers crusade have decent numbers in fights such as nzoth vexiona
Can i ask guys? While im an exceptional shaman healer, i just did 30k hps on Vexiona and they removed me from group ( with my pala). You use only Holy shock? You have to spread holy shock to as many player as possible? You also spam Flash of Light or not? I don't understand what i do wrong
You’re great, dude, I hope you will get in some r1 guild to get viewers you deserve
Great video loved it!
Hey Madskillzz.
Do you maybe have a link for your addons and setup, i really like it! i like it so simple ! And ty for the video!
Geat videos as always!! Whats is the name that backpack addon?
How do you feel about the 12% stat increases for hast/mastery versus the procs for the same stats?
I like your damage text on the right side, what is it?
Dude this guide is fucking great
Thank you
👑
You, sir.... You're amazing!
Thank you for this :-)
Do you have a section on gameplay in M+? I noticed you only had gameplay explained for raids.
Good addons for heal any sugestions?
Can you share your raidframe? Its so clean and good. I want stay to click on people but i fear i must use mouseover now
What is that your using for your healing frames? do you use mouse over macros or something else?
Do you have a azerite power weight link of traits + essences for us? could be useful i guess
Thank you so much for the guide♡. I have 1 question. A lot of people use the engineering head with the haste trait. Do you think is good? I love it.
If you have nothing else it's okay but preferably there is another helm from azerite vendor that gives glimmer, indomitable justice and other great traits. There is a point where to much haste can be wonky. I find the best area is 30-40% haste base line I run 38% haste, 23% crit, 30% mastery and it is very balanced!
@@justinlarson8316 Thank you very much. But i dont play pally anymore. I went back to my main. Discipline priest, bute thank you anyway hun♡.
What do you think is going to happen to glimmer of light in shadowlands when azerite gear is taken out?
Any chance we can get a link to the weak auras you use for HA, Wings and AM plz? @MadSkillzzTV
Hey, I dont have Conflict and Strife. I am wondering if its mandatory as Vision for raid, I just dont do rated very much. But i have most others at Rank 3 should I go ahead and go for Con and Strife over my rank 3 Life Binder for example. (raid)
I’m new to healing in raid environments. Help me out with which addons to get ?
new to healing, what is the addon that you are using for your party memeber interface grid to cast your spells onto? friends are telling me vudu but it doesnt seem to be working well with my scimitar mouse
Good video thank you. :) (also you sound kinda like a draenei)
So is it better to use 120int gem or 50 haste/crit for example in alchemy trinket?
Can you make a guide on resto druid?
Mann ur the best!!!!
What is the party/raid frames add on please?
Is there a dps rotation in here? I didn’t catch it. I’ve seen holy paladins pulling 40k dps in my mythicplus runs and I been wondering how they do that
if there's not much dmg happening, you can use your holy shock on the boss, applying a glimmer. So if you pop wings and are just shocking boss & critting each time, it's a lot dmg. Also he mentioned using corruption dmg pieces. I carry guildies thru heroics this way.
"I don't want this video to be too long"
**27 minutes later**
Original edit was like 35 mins, maybe I should break these down into two videos :)
@@MadSkillzzTV Haha, I didn't really mind it. Just thought it was fun that you opened with that. I know editing takes a lot of time, and am thankful for the content you produce. A suggestion would be to maybe have a summary video and a full video like this where you go into details. It would target 2 different audiences.
@@MadSkillzzTV no this was perfect.
Liked the video, but im very confused as to why you wouldnt pick Ever Rising Tide, or atleast mention it as an option, in raids as your major. Holy paladins have an abundance of mana, so its basically just free healing. I was running with Visions of Perfection major for a while, but it just felt like 90% of the time, it would proc off of a holy shock, and then i would only be able to get 1 extra holy shock out, which to me didnt feel worth the major slot, so i use it as a minor instead
Because the versatility of the wings proc feels better.
Hi, thanks so much for your video! I just started healing and this was soooo useful! May I ask you if there is a way to find your interface somewhere? I really love it! Thanks so much man!
it looks like he might be using the ElvUI addon
can u tell me your config and all the addons u use in this thanks :)
Is it normal for a pally to be out healed by a druid and shaman? im 458i followed all guides going and im always smashed on the healing meters i seem be lacking those aoe heals, im getting glimmer on as many targets as possible - May i add on the healing metres my over healing is always Much much lower than theres? also how does Light of martyr work on meters does it affect your healing done numbers?
How can I deal with hard pulls with this build?, I mean, I feel that it's harder to heal up the whole team when everybody's about to die, with my old build that wasn't a problem, using beacon of virtue and being more like a passive healer (no crussader's might)
Talents for mythics?
Seems weird that Hpal don't want minor essences like vitality conduit, or life binders etc that a lot of other healers tend to use. Conflict, and crucible both seem odd to me, but all the top paladins use them.
I personally like to play with vitality conduit and it makes like 8-10% of my hps. i got the feeling it procs regulary on glimmer and light of dawn what just makes it nice to balance out health. but tbh i dont have a fuckin clue what im doin. just playing like i want to :P
@@Cykro99 but you're also doing almost the same amount of damage to your raid, so it's very little effective healing. Good for padding the meters though.
@@Cykro99 Vitality isn't very good, it looks like it's doing more healing then it is because details doesn't meter it correctly. Logs subtracts the negative healing it does and balances out not very good.
@@endocry @Rubsy
Ye i saw the comment yesterday already. Never looked at it this way. Gonna change my Setup then:)
what backpack addon is that dude? thanks!
imagine a time when you didn't have to play a pally like a disc priest
Pablo Sanchez It makes far more sense for the guy in full plate and the big hammer/sword and shield to be stood at the front hitting things and healing his friends than stood at the back. This is how paladin should have always played since vanilla, IMO.
i f i have to choose a 480 ilvl titan residum what i should choose?
thanks for the guide...what about enchants specially weapon enchant
Haste enchanted for your rings, and quick navigation for your weapon.
@@delpepega thanks
How can I show glimmer of light on grid
I disagree with the rotation. In many situations its not worth making sure your light of dawn always is on cd. Then its just better to spam crusader strike and holy shocks that they are the most important things, and not light of dawn
where is the azerite for m+ hpal?
Hey bro can you send me your complete elvui,and weakauras please? I really like your interface. Nice video btw!
Is this Still the talents for m+?
Man I've tried holy paladin and I am just not good at it
Noob question: So, do you never use judgement? :D
Usually more in mythic + than raids. In mythic + it is a good damage filler. In raids it is very situational, like it is fine to use it in down time for raids, but that's when there isn't healing needed. In normal and heroic raiding, where there is less damage going out, you'll have more opportunities to use it rather than mythic raiding.
make a no target macro and use it to target some mobs/ explosive orbs,
i hate having to use 2 gear sets for 1 spec to do raid and m+....
I really want to try hpaladin but I'd have to farm essences from scratch, grind neck and cloak... Fml BFA is so damn grindy and anti alters, I hate this.
By the way I gotta say I find it unfair that a class with a simpler dps rotation with more direct healing and better CDs is performing better than Fistweaving which is way less reliable when you need to heal a target (since it's pretty random and most of the time you're healing through hots that jump to other targets), have worse CDs and their rotation is way warder, specially when you have to interrupt it to hard cast heals. I mean I've gotta try to stack Tiger palm up to 3 times, see if I have thunder focus tea up, use my renewing mists and essence fountain before rising sun kick, fill up one second if I used thunder focus tea, then cast again rising sun kick and cross my fingers to get a reset with blackout kick. All that while having an eye on people's health in case you need to interrupt your rotation and cast vivify or something else, keeping up soothing mist preferibly on tanks. Oh and we need perfect mana administration since Way of the crane costs 25k mana, trying to use it with mana tea if possible so it costs half of it.
I mean it's fun as hell to play as a fistweaving, but I feel like it's not rewarding enough to play that build when you could just play hpally or discipline, I'd really apretiate some tuning from Blizzard to make it more appealing somehow. Even if it was just changing or improving monk cds would be enough probably, they're quite trashy... Anyways, going back to paladins, I really love them and I think I'll try to gear one, it was my first healing class so I'll always have some love for them in my heart (of Azeroth)
Sorry its inconvenient for you to be fotm.
@@endocry What do you mean?
@@OscarIna0fTimeVODs flavor of the month.
@@endocry I know what FotM is but I didn't understand if you were implying that fistweavers are FotM or what did you mean with your comment haha
I might have to eat my own words, fistweaver with haste is quite interesting and specially fun, despite being a bit hard to manage at the beginning and needing really nice timing over the use of vivifies (or way of the crane on certain bosses). I'm having a blast with it and topping the meters in HC. I hope I can still be usefull for mythic content, though Wrathion and Skitra are bad for this build
Can you please give us the name of the addons ?
dude :D do some visions and finally get ward on rank 3 :D ... dont take me to seriously tho ... love your vids :D
Anyone know what WeakAura that is?
What makes leech strong for healers if anyone can clarify.
Your heals on other players leech heals to your self
@@Gwarr25 Oh thats badass, I was like how is you doing dmg, with small amounts of leech any good lol
I'm so fucking bored with healers having to DPS in order to heal efficiently now.
As I healer main I can honestly say I wish blizzard would just remove the healer role altogether now and be done with it.
why is leech so good? I don't understand
thanks
Cause it heals yourself for every damage and heals done. Holy pally actually do damage to heal
Lol your healing are low?
I'm in love with you =]
I dont want this video to long...30 MInutes :P
Holy paly is a lame excuse of a healer
Wtf is that mess of a ui
Your accent is very confusing.