I really like your guides on pop etc but sometimes when you talk about set ups I used to not get them as a new pvp player...like "jungle" or "cleave " so you might want to elaborate more on those for new players when you talk about them or small "icons " of classes would help. Anyway keep up the good work 😀😀😀
I do a lot of RBGs, would you recommend the same as the Arena build you mentioned, and what of Well of Existence? Is it any good in comparison to Vitality? Thanks and great video
If you pick devout spirit as major essence it s a nice oh shit option. The interrupt on the cast blocks nature spells which is a good way to trigger interrupt and u can heal on too. Thats what I did a lot and worked out very good.
Big Thanks for the guides you guys make, but the new design of the background during the video is really annoying please get rid of those flashing cubes at the corners.
You dont have to swap to bestow faith. Especially in 2v2. Bestow faith is strong because you can time it up with enemies stuns or CC. I just take the crusader strike talent and go full mongo. Works at 2.1k cr at least lol
This guide is mostly used to play 3c3 scenarios, he does mention the 2s options,but they are like a side choice. Although I've seen 2.8k Hpala play with bestow faith with Dh, playing super defensive and only healing from pillar, that's a super defensive play style while you are spending your time far from the enemy always hiding from cc, you will benefit much more from bestow faith than crusaders might.
You mention how important it is to keep distance because of easy swaps and cc chains. Very true. But what about all the healing you lose from your mastery not being in affect, or the lack of aura benefit?
Not really, your M+ gear should have alot of overlap with PvP and seems like it will be fit for purpose unless you want to go PvP super hard. If you don't have M+ gear this is an opertunity to get some! Your looking for 20-25% haste before stacking critical up to about 40%
@@Drakshl except I play Full glimmer, I don't really stack verse, I stack enough haste to stay around 20% without cd's or procs, then crit and sprinkle in some mastery, i don't get enough gear with verse/haste or verse/crit to rationalize dropping 3% haste for a verse/mastery piece ya know ? The trait setups are completely different for azerite if I'm wanting to optimize. For my low rating though I do fine in my pve gear. If a match drags out I generally have way more mana than the other healer. And my throughput is insane when it needs to be.
@@ipsyop yeah that's sorta what I figured, I'm a full PvE glimmer healer so I get you. I think szeritr wise running triple glimmer double judgment traits is probably fine (PvP players don't maul me we are talking about lower rating here ;) ), and judgment traits are sick in keys anyways so it's not like it's an issue to have some glimmer/judgment pieces in your bag. The weirdest thing for me in PvP Is NOT running crusaders might and running in to crush face and get glimmers. It's hard to stand back at a pillar when your instincts tell you to go and smash face
@@Drakshl yeah the playstyles are vastly different lol.. I found just trying to go full bore melee bash their face in in pvp seems to work alright, I typically just try to fuck with the enemy healer in 3's while my DPS focus on the others keep my HoJ cooldown as short as possible and just blast.
I love that i'm poor as fuck during these corona times, but still wants to take part of these tips and tricks because I like what they do, just when i buy 3 months on Skill capped, then this info gets released on the tube anyways XD unlucky me I guess X)
I got 2.1k in 2v2 and I'm straight terribad. Try to get at least like 18% verse and stack ineffable truth. Take the judgement reduces HoJ CD. Get 3 indomitablejustice.. hpal can play with literally anybody. If you want easiest 2100 then play with a destro lock. I enjoy playing with a survival hunter Too. I've been 2.1k with survival hunter and destro lock
Thanks for the info. I have to work on not tunneling on the raid frames and watch for incoming cc and kicks. Oddly enough, this is easier on mistweaver due to the channeling use of spells but I feel that paladin is a bit of a stronger healer
The spell light decree does that still work for holy or it’s patched ? Says only retribution spec ... hang on it’s says holy power ( that would mean it’s useless for holy since we don’t have holy power )
I actually feel so disappointed with the numbers I pull using glimmer in pvp, makes me consider if there are other options but, they all seem bad to me, so having 2 glimmers is just to fill the remaining spaces
Talents 0:57
Essences 4:30
Azerite 8:18
Trinkets 9:00
Corruption 10:05
Playstyle 12:40
God among men
Never thought i'd find someone who explains things so well like Xot, but here we go with Abx. Loved this guide.
change the video speed to 0.5 and he would sound like a drunk guy explaining wow to you. You're welcome.
I was tipsy and did this. Laughed my ass of😂 Thanks for the fun bro
Lmao facts
Your a wizard harry
I really like your guides on pop etc but sometimes when you talk about set ups I used to not get them as a new pvp player...like "jungle" or "cleave " so you might want to elaborate more on those for new players when you talk about them or small "icons " of classes would help. Anyway keep up the good work 😀😀😀
Thx for the guides on this channel, helps a lot. Good Work!
Tnx a lot! Now i know why i struggle against double dps in 2v2 lol. I always picked avenging crusader. Sanctufied wrath heals so much more.
I do a lot of RBGs, would you recommend the same as the Arena build you mentioned, and what of Well of Existence? Is it any good in comparison to Vitality? Thanks and great video
If you pick devout spirit as major essence it s a nice oh shit option. The interrupt on the cast blocks nature spells which is a good way to trigger interrupt and u can heal on too. Thats what I did a lot and worked out very good.
Big Thanks for the guides you guys make, but the new design of the background during the video is really annoying please get rid of those flashing cubes at the corners.
wait...ABX the mage from mal ganis in lich king? always played arcane?
Do you think that divine vision is good against classes that abuse gushing wounds?
I thought we never want to run crit in pvp as its severely cut back in arenas? Isnt it kind of a waste when you can stack more versa? :o
how do you stop your gear from killing you?
if i go crit + versa i have 39% crit and 20% versa, but only 14% haste than, is this still okey than?
How much corruption is too much corruption. What kind of ratio or amount of corrupted gear should we be aiming for in pvp?
always aim for everything under 40 corruption. the thing from beyond deals just too much dmg.
From the looks of things I can use my M+ gear, swap to bestow faith and play arena pretty easy to grind my rank 3 conflict. Nicu
You dont have to swap to bestow faith. Especially in 2v2. Bestow faith is strong because you can time it up with enemies stuns or CC. I just take the crusader strike talent and go full mongo. Works at 2.1k cr at least lol
Every video I watch on holy pally says to use crusaders might but you say to use bestow faith. Can anyone tell me why?
This guide is mostly used to play 3c3 scenarios, he does mention the 2s options,but they are like a side choice.
Although I've seen 2.8k Hpala play with bestow faith with Dh, playing super defensive and only healing from pillar, that's a super defensive play style while you are spending your time far from the enemy always hiding from cc, you will benefit much more from bestow faith than crusaders might.
You mention how important it is to keep distance because of easy swaps and cc chains. Very true. But what about all the healing you lose from your mastery not being in affect, or the lack of aura benefit?
That's why mastery has the lowest value in arena. Rather not get CCed than get mastery value.
+skill
Hello, for 2c2 with palaheal, who is the best mate please ?
I’ve been playing holy pally for a while and I did not know healing beacon of light restores mana
Same
O.O I need to have a whole other gearset for pvp jeeeeeesus lol..
Not really, your M+ gear should have alot of overlap with PvP and seems like it will be fit for purpose unless you want to go PvP super hard. If you don't have M+ gear this is an opertunity to get some! Your looking for 20-25% haste before stacking critical up to about 40%
@@Drakshl except I play Full glimmer, I don't really stack verse, I stack enough haste to stay around 20% without cd's or procs, then crit and sprinkle in some mastery, i don't get enough gear with verse/haste or verse/crit to rationalize dropping 3% haste for a verse/mastery piece ya know ?
The trait setups are completely different for azerite if I'm wanting to optimize. For my low rating though I do fine in my pve gear. If a match drags out I generally have way more mana than the other healer. And my throughput is insane when it needs to be.
@@ipsyop yeah that's sorta what I figured, I'm a full PvE glimmer healer so I get you. I think szeritr wise running triple glimmer double judgment traits is probably fine (PvP players don't maul me we are talking about lower rating here ;) ), and judgment traits are sick in keys anyways so it's not like it's an issue to have some glimmer/judgment pieces in your bag. The weirdest thing for me in PvP Is NOT running crusaders might and running in to crush face and get glimmers. It's hard to stand back at a pillar when your instincts tell you to go and smash face
@@Drakshl yeah the playstyles are vastly different lol.. I found just trying to go full bore melee bash their face in in pvp seems to work alright, I typically just try to fuck with the enemy healer in 3's while my DPS focus on the others keep my HoJ cooldown as short as possible and just blast.
i tried finding it, but the is no set up with 3 justice, 2 glimmer and one lights decree. one glimmer has to go or one justice.
This is true. Any updates?
I love that i'm poor as fuck during these corona times, but still wants to take part of these tips and tricks because I like what they do, just when i buy 3 months on Skill capped, then this info gets released on the tube anyways XD unlucky me I guess X)
I wanna hit 2100 before bfa ends..I've been playing for a long while and all the shit that goes off st the same time in arena still confused me
I got 2.1k in 2v2 and I'm straight terribad. Try to get at least like 18% verse and stack ineffable truth. Take the judgement reduces HoJ CD. Get 3 indomitablejustice.. hpal can play with literally anybody. If you want easiest 2100 then play with a destro lock. I enjoy playing with a survival hunter Too. I've been 2.1k with survival hunter and destro lock
But everbody i meet tells that pala should get min 30% crit, 15% haste and go all in on versa?
Thanks for the info. I have to work on not tunneling on the raid frames and watch for incoming cc and kicks. Oddly enough, this is easier on mistweaver due to the channeling use of spells but I feel that paladin is a bit of a stronger healer
The spell light decree does that still work for holy or it’s patched ?
Says only retribution spec
... hang on it’s says holy power ( that would mean it’s useless for holy since we don’t have holy power )
It still makes it 5 seconds longer
Reiss Cullen yeah but like seriously ... 5 seconds ....
Jigglyishere 5 seconds is pretty big
Timestamps?????
Holy priest next pls 2v2
Why only 2 "Glimmer of Lights"?
Glimmer is not that op on PvP, having +5sec wings and 3xJudgement dmg increase can help more in a lot of situations
I actually feel so disappointed with the numbers I pull using glimmer in pvp, makes me consider if there are other options but, they all seem bad to me, so having 2 glimmers is just to fill the remaining spaces
How broken is Pala heal it's pathetic
i need macros ffs
YOu speak too fast...
play the video at 75% instead then